/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9371906
I don't know if this belongs here, but I've gotta vent. I'm so happy to be moving soon because my comm fucking sucks. Every meet we plan falls through, and half of the members are itas and the other half are just lurkers who own one bodyline skirt. I don't know if any of them browse here or not so I don't want to say names or shit yet.

Anyone in AZ going to the soda shop meet? I kind of want to go but I have mixed feelings about D running it

>>9371927
>>9371927
Please dont start AZ drama now.. We just established in a previous thread that we are a more decent comm than cgl makes us look. If you have a problem with D just dont go. There are so many other meets

>>9371938
Not trying to start drama, just curious to see who's going. I didn't say a thing about the comm as a whole.
Sorry I hurt your feels, defensive-chan

>>9371950
Not that anon, but trying to start drama by posting about certain members on /cgl/ is what's making look the comm as a whole look bad.
c'mon, we had almost an entire thread about AZ, please stop trying to cause more member drama we don't need.

>>9371927
You could have just asked if any one was going without mentioning who's running it. She lurks here and will chime in when she's given a chance. You're trying to start something where there's nothing to start. Don't go if she makes you uncomfettable. Arizona tends to derail threads because of those who shall not be named. So just avoid even mentioning them and we can finally shake this bad image that we are a bad comm because they can't let old drama go.

Posting from the last thread...

Any Comms have plans to see Beauty & The Beast next month?

>>9371950
If you wanted to know whos going why not just take a look at the event page to see who clicked "going" and "maybe". How is posting on an anon board and low key trash talking the organizer going to let you know who exactly is going?

Thats the definition of starting up drama.

Sorry to bring up NYC drama in the new thread but the girl who talked about the bitches is NYC trash talking the rest of the community and pins got RECEIPTS!!!

>>9371977

You all really are pieces of shit in that comm, aren't you?

>>9372026
Omg stop. You all had your thread, now chill and let's move on.

So glad its not my com having drama for once. popcorn.gif

>>9372023
>implying that RSVPs to a non-paid event are any indication of who's actually going

>captcha "private shadybro"

How does a comm move from meets to mega meets, big events, or the few j fashion conventions? I daydream about it with my friends but there's so much to logistics of actually making it happen. Maybe this isn't even the right thread for it

>>9372099

money. lots of money

I had a friend who flew in RinRin and other brands for their meets and helped organize a Jfashion store and convention. She put in 10k of her own money to organize it and even though it was ticketed, she didn't recoup.

>>9372103

cont'd

to clarify she's not super rich. just 30+ with a stable job, no kids and very into lolita. also she's not american, so the wages and cost of living is different there.

Posting here to see if anyone else died from the stench of that girl at tonights swap meet for charm city

Anyone else from HLC absolutely love all the links posted by SQ when people kept advertising wonderland over and over again about how amazing it is? Just great.

>>9372115
Yeeeeeeeeah. She was pretty bad, but to be fair she's what - 15? I know that's not an excuse, plenty of 15 year olds understand hygiene, but hopefully she'll grow out of it? Maybe she doesn't understand that you can wash (most) lolita clothes in the washing machine just like regular clothes. I wonder if there's a mod who can find a polite way to tell her she needs to shower/wash her clothes more?

>>9372185
I want to bring it up somehow but I don't know a polite/appropriate way to do it. It clearly bothered a lot of people just from the looks on their faces. I couldn't even stand in that room with her, I had to get out.

>>9372199
Not in your comm but we had an issue just like this with a girl I knew in high school. We spoke to the counselor about it and the counselor basically sat her down and said "Some people are worried about you because your hygiene routine seems to have changed and they want to make sure you're doing okay." She did it that way so that the girl didn't attack us for talking about something so sensitive with the counselor/behind her back but it definitely made her withdraw from everyone for a while because she didn't know who she could trust. It's a really uncomfortable situation no matter how you spin it, really.

>>9371985
Our comm is, but the host hasn't posted anything about renting out the cinema or session times or trying to arrange a seating plan.

>>9370917
Still wondering about UK comms in northern England abd Scotland

>>9372298
There are two Scottish comms, both are alright.

>>9372099
a stable, reliable team, some people willing to pitch in their own money for starts and a good plan. You need to really be able to trust each other to do your work properly and be really motivated. Organizing big (talking brand tea party) events can easily turn into a part time job for the better part of a year.

>>9372204
You spoke with her high school's counselor?

>>9372466
>a girl I knew in high school
I assume so.

>>9372026
They sound like teenagers

>>9372099
You need people in your comm who've organised big successful events before

>>9372472
You also need comm members who are willing to pay the ticket price.

>>9372199
Doesn't she have friends who could tell her?

>>9372476
If it's at a central place and you're not an idiot about marketing people will come

>>9372026
Wow. Real garbage humans. NYC has the worst com by far.

>>9372115
We also have a girl in our comm who is always smelling, but I don't know her good enough to tell her to use some deodorant... I have fear to hurt her feelings...

>>9372099
I also would love to organize a Tea Party with a japanese guest one day, but even if I love my friends, they are quite lazy and can't be trusted with handling so much money.... and I don't have enough funds to pay from my own pocket...

>>9372103
Shouldn't the brands pay for their transport themselves unless they are a special guest at the teaparty? They go there to promote their brand no? Does it go like this for all events or just lolita?

>>9372115
Yeah, I'm afraid I was walking around with a nasty look on my face half the night. Sometimes it was a little hard to breathe; the smell of BO, cat urine, and something that I can only describe as a strong vaginal odor just filled every room she went into. I kept trying to think of a good way to tell her, but I've only ever seen her once before and I have no idea if she is close enough with anyone aside from her little skittish friend (who seemed nice, but probably couldn't be asked to bring it up effectively). I don't want to just shun people, especially one so young, but I really don't know how to handle this delicately.

>>9372539
The description you gave of her stench made me feel sick, you poor things

Hopefully a comm leader can handle it delicately with her.

>>9371985
My comm is.

>>9372115
>>9372185
>>9372546
>>9372199
>>9372477
>>9372539
Hey guys --- Host for CCL monthly meets --- Letting you know I'm aware and will be having a discussion - I didn't want to do it last night during the meetup since I knew leaving wasn't really an option for her or her friend and it would have just made things more uncomfortable. <3

Please --- if there's ever an issue at the meets bring it up to me directly so I can note it to take care of it (even if its something obvious in case I miss it!) .

>>9372026
I just suggest that you save that screencap just in case they bitch about how they're not being exclusive.

>>9372026
Lmao I guess its hard for people to see the sarcasm in that post but ok

>>9372637
People from last thread, please take note on what being a good comm leader is.

>>9372675
That was meant to be about >>9372569
>9372569 since they are clearly a good example of a community leader.

>>9372637
Lmao no, the mood and intent is pretty obvious, but A for effort there.

>>9372522
No way. They always expect you to pay for their travel. You charge tickets to make up for it and maybe if you can communicate well enough take a percentage from their sales. Other than that. You have to pay for them to come.

>>9372476
>THIS
I have been planning hosting a one day lolita convention in my area but outside of a few people almost everyone in my area is either flakey, cheap or both. I'm not going to put down thousands of my own money for something that might work out if we're lucky. I don't expect to ever be able to host something larger than a what is considered a regular meet here.

>>9372637
> Having a discussion on what other comms did and also considering pricing
> LOL, IT'S TOTALLY JUST A JOKE.

Y'all are beating on a dead horse. We all know NYC comm sucks. Whether you're an elitist bitch or a whiny pissbaby, if you don't change yourselves, nothing will change about your comm.

>>9372569
Thank you so much. I hate being a catty bitch and coming here to rant about things but I didn't know how to bring it up in person. Last night was the first time I've met her so I didn't feel it was right for me to approach her.

>>9372966
That's the sad part. Nothing will change.

>>9372162
She has the biggest hateboner for the Leighs. Why the hell would anyone care that much? It's ridiculously annoying and it seems like she has nothing better to do with her life than spend time on the internet all day long and angrily rub one out to John every night.
Oh, and she and her wife kill rabbits>>9372162
>>9372162

>>9371985
My comm is! I'm a newbie to the comm and haven't been to a meet yet, do you guys think that going to the movies with people I just met would be an awkward first meet for me?

>>9373052
Nah you'll be fine! If anything it gives you something to talk about after.

>>9373052
Not at all. The movie can be a good jumping-off point for discussion.

>>9372204
>it definitely made her withdraw from everyone for a while because she didn't know who she could trust.
You make it sound like this is okay to happen to someone? Which is worse? Avoiding someone or someone avoiding you?

Sorry, I just can't help but laugh at some weird moral system you run off of.

>>9372994
There's been a couple meets she's been to so far and it wasn't as bad previously... but since it seems like the hobby is sticking we will need to work together and hopefully help...

She is 15 and might not have had the talk about bodies changing and stuff... and I'm sure all of us knew that person at 15 who was very excited. They just needed some nurturing...and body spray.

So *crosses fingers* wish me luck. Haven't had a chance yet.

>>9373051
kill rabbits?

>>9373051
She has a husband, not a wife. Also she only ever posts about it if someone brings it up, no other time. So I don't see the big deal. John is a gross person. I do however think people should just shut up about it.
Oh and if you don't pay attention, they weren't even home when their rabbit died, that was a low bs blow and had nothing to do with the subject.

>>9373215
It's just an anon who has a hateboner for her, how ironic. They probably are the one who writes secrets about them all the time on behind-the-bows too. I do agree all the back and forth arguing about the Leighs is really tiring and annoying though. Good thing one of the mods stepped up and finally shut that kind of talk down.

Question, do you have a brolita in your Comm? How is he?

>>9373237
We have a couple, maybe more. I've only interacted with two of them. One of them coincidentally lives in my apartment complex and is super chill, doesn't look like a hot mess, and pleasant to be around. The other is a bit weeby, but otherwise fine. For the most part, all of the guys in our comm, and especially the male "regulars," are all very chill.

>>9372162
Haha yeah I loved that..
It's so ironic that the number one rule is "respect all members of the comm and thier opinions" unless those opinions are different than ours

"Bullying will not be tolerated" but if you enjoy a shop or con we will exclude you and you aren't welcome to even mention siw/AM.

Good thing the AM crowd isn't as sensitive as the HLC mods or they might need to find a safe space to cry in.

>>9373251
They did it because every time it came up people from one side or the other would get butt hurt. Either the AM side or the anti AM side. So why not get rid of the subject so no one can get into arguments over it? Seems logical to me.

>>9373241
What comm are you in?

>>9373251
Something else that is important is some of the mods do support SiW and AM and still decided to ban the subject. Seems fair to me too.

>>9373259
SF Comm

>>9373109
She had a bunny, it died suddenly. Rabbits do that, if anyone knew anything about raising rabbits.

>>9373251
I don't get why they don't just ban AM talk . The mods can't handle it maturely so they might as well.

>>9373237
He dresses nice and is very polite. I think we have a few more but he's the only one that actively attends meets.

>>9373262
They did ban AM talk today. It was put in the rules. They said that people are more then welcome to go to AM and SiW but the subject will not be allowed on the page anymore.

>>9373251
>>9373262
Stop depicting as if all the mods were acting like that. It was only SQ being buttblasted about it. Seems like she might have pulled something too since the other mod that still supports AM mentioned people got deleted from the comm....

>>9373260
I think that was the reason too. Everyone else that isn't Anti-AM on sjw levels want people to shut up and move on already.

>>9373331
>>9372162

I don't see where she was being a bitch anywhere, can you explain? She literally just posted links to articles with solid evidence against the Leighs and informed the OP of just what she was getting herself into.

People being accidentally bumped out of comms has happened everywhere at some point. Are you a member of other comms? It happens fairly frequently.

While we want everyone to shut up, it also needs to be said that the SIW promoters are kind of loud. They like to go on and on about SIW 1) without mentioning the controversy, and 2) when people call the Leigh's out, they dont even TRY to hide or excuse them. They just simply promote without a care while knowing that it is a major divider in our comm.

>>9373051
Also, seconding the bunny thing that others have said. Bunnies can die very suddenly; they were out of town when it happened. From what I understand, she posted about it and was extremely hurt by it's passing. That's a really low insult, anon.

PS. She has a husband. Sounds like you misgendered him on purpose which is also low AF.

>>9373074
If someone stinks so bad nobody else can stand to be around then they're going to lose all friends and social contacts eventually anyway. Should anon have just completely ignored it and let that happen? Better to hurt someone's feelings in the short term to help them in the long term.

>>9373241
Ugh can't stand the weeby one. He is the biggest attention whore and drama queen.

>>9373237
We have one. He is well dressed but extremely catty.

>>9373372
>they're going to lose all friends and social contacts eventually anyway
This isn't actually true.

>Better to hurt someone's feelings in the short term to help them in the long term.
There's better ways to handle things. There's a reason why there's literally a business etiquette on how to handle this exact situation. Granted the original story was about high schoolers who are going to fuck up one way or another and bad shit is going to happen, etc.

>>9373261
I'm so sorry you have to deal with soccer mom

>>9373388
Most high schoolers would have bullied her. Are you seriously shitting on anon's morality (which high schoolers haven't even really developed yet) because she tried to help the girl by going to an adult who was trained to deal with that sort of thing?

>>9373237
There's a few but there is one who attends meets and is extremely humble, and is an absolute darling in the comm.

>>9373394
She's actually quite reserved and pleasant in person, and I appreciate her enthusiasm in hosting events and generally being an active member of the community. I'd definitely rather have Soccer mom than the pissant attitudes from other comms that I've read about here.

>>9373357
Butt blasted isn't synonymous to bitch, read better. She was definitely butt blasted with her fb posts. I didn't say she had no reason to be, but she definitely gets heated which makes her immature and snarky sometimes. I am also not saying she is the only immature one there, but I am personally critizing her since she's a mod. But okay, since we don't know who was kicked, it could definitely just be coincidental so I'll give you that.

>>9373237
We have one that I've met and he seems very nice. I'm not really very well acquainted with him, but all our interactions have been pleasant and the rest of the comm seems to like him. He could use a wig though.

>>9372162
She definitely went about the wrong way but it should've been left at that. The ball was on OP's court. Her stupid ads wants to act Brand New when she knows better. If you ask me, poster was a troll and Katie was butthurt.
Now going back to lolita conventions. I realized that HLC comm can't even host one because John has managed to over run them completely. He's even taken over the areas that HLC hosts. This has been the sad reality here. John tries to overtake the lolita community and will go after anyone who goes against him. We can't have any other anime cons, let alone lolita cons because he targets them. Prime example, Buttcape's one day lolita con before AM.

>>9373550
Katie definitely helped escalate things unnecessarily but M and J were being no better taunting her either. It was embarrassing to watch. But I think you're being paranoid? Buttcape isn't part of HLC so that doesn't really work as an example. Where else does HLC host that John has taken over? HLC did fine at Onicon and I doubt John could find a way to ruin that. Besides AM/SiW, I don't really see him creeping onto the comm.

>>9373553
He went after her and even outed her to several models to not go to the event. Bribing people with model positions to stay. Whether or not she was part of HLC or not is not the point. Someone who has the same idea of hosting lolita cons and was saught after John is. It doesn't matter who is or isn't in the community. Of they're doing anything lolita related, John would do anything in his power to make sure they don't succeed. That's why none of the lolitas can make legitimate programs for them. Speaking of Oni Con, John kicked out Oni Con out of Houston. That's why they settled in Galveston. Away from John's reach. According to some of the staff and UH members.


Honestly, Katie had it coming. She's always going about how she "misses the old HLC". She was in the drama that AM created and forsaken her friends. Who wouldn't have a grudge with that?

>>9373553
John took over J-Fest. They're running a fashion show, hosting panels and lolita programs with SIW. This isn't new. Everyone knows. John wants to be the face of lolita in Houston and HLC can't do shit.

>>9373051
That bunny was sick (or injured) and they complained about not having enough money to take it to the vet, then made a post about all the new Jfash they bought literally days after.

Whiteknights, ahoy.

>>9373237
My husband is a "brolita" (he doesn't really like the term and just prefers being called a lolita like everyone else) and comes to meets with me. He seems to get along with everyone when we go to meets together. Of course I have a very biased opinion of him because he's my husband though but I don't think anyone has any problems with him since he actually wears the fashion and can talk about with everyone and stuff.

>>9372115
Oh lord. This reminds me of the fat kid in Freaks and Geeks. I hope it's not a genetics thing. I will pray to Mana for your comm.

>>9373237
Is it bad that I feel embarassed by the Brolitas in our comm? We have 2 of them and they dress like Itas despite being in the comm for over 5 years. I feel embarassed to be seen with them in public because they look so horrible. If they were girls I could overlook this but because they look very obviously like men I can't (if they would dress decent I wouldn't have a single problem with them).

>>9373237
we had one, until he decided to go full tranny after a year.
so she (i guess) is on hormones for a while and got her documents changed and stuff. other than that, no.

>>9373556
They took over jfest because the people that ran it last year got screwed over so they dropped the show, same with SXSW.
HLC does Onicon and it might have been small but every event went super well. Supposedly they have big plans for this year. They do events, John just over shadows everything.

>>9373555
>>9373550
Okay, I get your point and it's definitely true that John tries to sabotage other events. However, the "one day lolita con" that Buttcape had, are you referencing to Palace of Prince's Nightfall or something else? Because from what I recall, Nightfall was announced later than AM that year and it seemed like Buttcape specifically planned it to be before AM to gather everyone who was traveling to Houston that weekend. That was more like Buttcape trying to upstage John, not the other way around.

>>9373556
>>9373692
How does everyone else know? I figured out that HLC was no longer doing Jfest because of how management treated them, but I never heard news about SiW. I believe you, but I just want to know how I can keep updated so I know ahead of time what events they're now running.

Honestly, it just can't be up to the anti-AM mods to combat the Leigh's presence. More of the community has to support them and other events. The other events don't even have to be more successful than AM, they just need to be successful enough to stay afloat.

>>9373740
>That was more like Buttcape trying to upstage John, not the other way around.
how delusional do you have to be to believe that a 1-day convention organized by what was (at the time) one of the best resources for ouji, on a day that at the time had no AM programming, was done to "upstage" anyone? it was a small event, more like the kind of special meetups or tea parties people might schedule before or during a convention for a community to gather while everyone was already travelling to the same area. the events were complementary, not competitive, until John decided to run them over.

hosting events or gatherings not officially sanctioned by the big weekend con is not "upstaging" the con, unless you are already insecure and paranoid.

>>9373740
I had to join their J-Fahionista group to get info... Plus, Daniela never shuts up about it and their army of weaboo itas.

>>9373740
They do have a Facebook page. It's not hard to google and realize they have several events.

>>9373692
I highly doubt they got "screwed over". Not dropping names but more than one person has come to me that HLC mods don't have good social skills but love to blame others that it's their fault. SQ just seems more demanding....

>>9371985
I can't wait to get dressed nice and sit in the dark for two hours.

>>9373877
I don't think they got screwed over either. I heard it was a misunderstanding of some sort. That's what they told me at least. SQ can be demanding but everything always runs really well so it doesn't bother me too much.

Can we move of from this, I'm so tired of every thread coming to hlc and matsuri and everyone getting butthurt.

>>9373256
>the AM side
Why is there an AM side? There is nothing good about AM

>>9373889
because texans gonna texas

>>9373651
I feel the same way, though I'd never dare to voice it non-anonymously. Having to walk around in public with obnoxious itas is bad enough without everyone in a five mile radius being able to tell they're men. One guy in particular only wears ankle socks, never tights, bloomers or an underskirt, has skirts that are too short and yet he always sits with his unshaven legs spread wide open. And you can't say anything because that's body shaming. I've started avoiding meet ups he'll be at if we'll be using public transport as a group because I can't stand the embarassment.

Is it bad that we instantly reject comm applications from men? For some reason there are quite a few sissies in my city and I'm always terrified that we'll end up letting one in. I used to have a public page for my blog before I abandoned it and one of them messaged some pretty creepy shit.

>>9373935
No. You can reject application from whoever you want for whatever reason you want.

>>9373889
Kate works with AM, Josh goes and shops there and almost everything he contributed to Oni Com's tea party was from SIW, Zaid has attended their events and the only people against it seems to be SQ while Jess and Becky are no shows. Why. Just. Why.... HLC does not need this.....

>>9373972
>external organization installs sympathizers to its cause in positions of power despite significant portion of comm's population protesting said organization

just another day in the land of alternative facts. pick the side of the story that benefits you most and discount the evidence and testimonies that critique the people giving you power and gifts.

even on internet communities like /cgl/, for issues that have no bearing on geography, the post-truth mentality of our times means there is less incentive to challenge yourself. the deluge of information and a lack of trust in an objective standard of truth gives every individual lolita license to do whatever they want without feeling morally compromised.

>>9373916
How is it still worth it to go to meets?

>>9374030
Nearly everyone else is nice and fun to be around and the creeps and weebs are usually easy to avoid once we get to the meetup location. Usually.

>>9373972
SiW did nothing with onicon. All of the events fit that were run by sq and CQ. I don't know where you heard that bit it's hella wrong.

>>9374114
No one said anything about SIW running Oni Con?

>>9374114
Josh buys SIW products and donates them as raffle prizes is what OP said. All the mods in HLC are affiliated in some way and it's not "alternative facts". Shop in Wonderland's Facebook has Late plastered everywhere, Zaid shows up in their pictures and so does Josh....

>>9374025
Alternative facts my ass

>>9374025
I couldn't find Josh's pic.

>comm wants to do a "consignment" meet instead of a swap meet

>Fill out paperwork about what you plan on offering
>make tags with all required info
>set aside a percentage of profit to the comm for planning future events

Bitch what
I don't plan on participating or showing up


So I'm just being whiny on anon.
Reddy 2 fight

>>9374154
I saw their shitty plus size lolita tips video posted on reddit. It's so bad! A sack dress for "curvy" lolitas? Thats like the first thing you know NOT to wear as a fatty-chan or if you have boobs.

>>9374184
Give profits to the comm???? Fuck that! I doubt many people will want to sell. What comm is this?

>>9371906
Sorry... new to 4chan & cosplay. Are you all crossdressers, or genetic girls? I didn't look at any pics, so don't be offended.

>>9374197
/cgl/ is one of the most female populated boards

>>9374184
I wouldn't go to that but I feel like there are girls in my comm would love this.

>>9374197

Would a "membership fee" (annual or otherwise) be something you would be okay with paying for to join a comm if it comes with free events and some sort of small indicator that you're part of the club like a pin? Or do you prefer the typical system of pay for what events you go to, otherwise it's free?

>>9374197
4/10 got me to post an image

>>9374217
Pay for what I go to. This isn't an american insurance company so I'm not giving you a premium for shit I didn't go to.

>>9374187
Link? I need to see this shit show.

>>9374154
'Curvy Goddess' is a term I would NOT use to describe a person wearing lolita.

>>9374217
Membership fees would essentially create a private club to keep out certain people, like poorfags and people you vote to exclude like itas/creeps. You can already do that by hosting your own meets.

You can already hand out local comm pins under the normal system if you're feeling generous, or include it in a gift.

Now I'm imagining some kind of lolita country club where we can meet in a mansion and play croquet after coming back from brand stores in a horse-drawn carriage.

>>9374268
>Now I'm imagining some kind of lolita country club where we can meet in a mansion and play croquet after coming back from brand stores in a horse-drawn carriage.
I'd be all in for that. Snack on tea sandwiches, eat petite fours, sip tea, and laugh at all the poorfags and ita's who aren't included.

>>9374268
>>9374272
Honestly, I frequently daydream about how the Lolita community will change as we become older and have better paying jobs. I imagine us to be like refined old ladies who do charity auctions where we bid for very rare dresses from 50+ years ago and have enormous luxurious wardrobes only half of which we fit into anyways.

>>9374217
A lolita is not some country club. What exactly would I be paying for, if I already pay for my own food and transportation to the meets. Big events are already prepaid to pay for everything needed at said event. Sounds like some comm leader wants to make it their paid "job". If my comm did this No doubt we would make a new free comm.

This is just a bad idea all around.

>>9374273
Except the reality is that 99% of people don't magically become filthy rich just because they are older and most jobs are not THAT well paying.

>>9374272
I want to like this idea but at the same time can't help but think that even though I have enough money for stuff like that, I wouldn't be included because I could easily be labeled brand ita.

>>9373237
One of my best friends is a brolita but very rarely comes to any comm events because he has a good job and is afraid of running into someone he knows from work

He has a great wardrobe and really likes the fashion. He isn't the cutest guy and some of the cunts here would probably talk shit about him if he ever got posted, but really he is one of the people most into the fashion that I know. Not a creep at all. I wish people weren't so judgmental about looks here, especially since we all get judged by normies, too.

>>9374295
solo brolita >>> brolita at meets

Being an unattractive crossdresser can be cool in a ballsy way, but when you're surrounded by a flock of girls dressed to match it looks like a joke.

>>9373241
You actually have Brolitas in your Comm who are active?

>>9374279
That's why private country clubs are fucked up, it's for the 1% to flaunt their enormous wealth for no reason.

But I honestly would still love to be in a lolita country club. Sip tea in a private garden and laugh at all the poorfags.

>>9373376
I haven't interacted with him that much. I did get a bit of a dramatic air from him, but, you know, nothing that's worse than your standard-fare convention weeb

>>9374306
Our comm is just generally very active.

>>9374278
Sorry if I've come across as shady. I was thinking more in terms of something like clubs I've joined at my uni in the past and was wondering if that was a model that would work with something like lolita. Club fees go to fund totally free events for members and usually come with a t-shirt. They also do fundraising events open to the public which fund trips for the club. Social clubs outside of a university context often charge annual membership fees as well. If it was all open and clearly documented, I don't imagine it would be too untrustworthy. Also, not too sure on how effective it would be at keeping our poorfags considering the usual membership fee is like $20 USD.

>then again, ive seen caps of poorfags complaining about mall meets costing too much

>>9374372
I live an hour away from my comm and only go to three meets a year or so.

With an organized membership fee I'd probably say "fuck it" and try to find more opportunities to wear lolita on my own instead of meets because it just wouldn't be worth it to be in a "club" I live 50 miles away from.

>>9374273
>>9374312

lmao.

I too have similar dreams for the future. Like a lot of lolitas, the fashion got me out of my shell when I started out, it helped me learn how to makeup and style, and I made a lot of friends along the way.

As I get older, I realize that I lost much of my normie friends because we're busy with our adult lives (family, work, school, etc.), and as sad as excuse as it is, lolita gave me a reason to socialize with like-minded people outside of work. Adulthood is terribly lonesome, whether you're single, attached, or starting a family. It's not like when you're a kid, you could easily knock on your neighbor's to hang out, and the pressures to conform is worse.

I don't see myself in the Red Hat society, but I hope I can still hang out with my crazy girlfriends as I age.

>>9374372
>>9374386

Whatever happened to the Japan Lolita Association anyway? I had the impression that it was aiming to be some kind of Lolita Red Hat society, shortly before the KAs started stepping down. Did it ever have a plan beyond having kawaii ambassadors getting Misako invited to gigs?

>>9374408
No idea, and honestly, I kind of prefer it to not be a thing because the whole Kawaii Ambassador thing brought some dumb drama and animosity among community members.

I'm a jaded oldfag. Having "official" chosen representatives as the fashion leaders is kind of silly imo because I've seen too many people leave the fashion over the years.

I more or less want to treat it like other subcultures like goth where it's got a nuanced culture of music, film, and literature, but I guess lolita never really had that strong a leverage.

>>9373972
You left out the other mod, is there anything about her? Kate seems to be the only one actively promoting SiW though, at least Josh and Zaid have enough sense to not do that. It does seem scary that a majority of the mods aren't anti-AM, but I'm not worried. If they were big supporters of AM, I think they would have encouraged SiW advertisements instead of finally banning it like they did earlier. Most of them seem like they just want people to do their own thing. It's frustrating that there isn't more being done, but then again it hasn't even been a month since they became mods.

However, did anyone who is actively anti-AM apply to be a mod? I wonder if any of them tried to step up but got rejected.

>>9374025
What are you even going on about? That anon didn't say John put puppets in place in HLC, they're saying the only anti-AM mod we have is SQ.

Steering away from the AM drama, does anyone in any of the Houston comms smoke weed? It's an odd question and I would never ask anybody in person but I have a few guesses.

>>9374597
Yes

>>9374594
Britt? She works with SQ so I assume by association, she has to. I've seen her twice but never talked to her.

>>9374440

okay, that sounds pretty bad. In my comm two girls signed up for membership and that was all that we had to do with it.

I'd personally love to be able to sign up for a lolita club, get news updates on what other members are up to, and find other comms more easily (as opposed to now where you have to post a question in a few places and hope someone has the answer). I can see your point about how it's difficult to get folks who are dedicated to the fashion to actually run it fairly, though.

>>9371985
My comm is thinking of doing it at an Alamo Drafthouse so its more of an event

>>9374260
This is obviously Daniela speaking. Anyone who is larger than a size 4 is a "curvy goddess".

>>9374610
If by "yes" you mean you do, I'd absolutely love to smoke with another lolita, it's something I've been shooting for for a while. Both lolita and drug culture are huge parts of my lifestyle, but I can't mesh the two very easily.

>>9373401
That's refreshing honestly, because the vibe she gives off online is much different imo

>>9372522
Not unless they are a tiny new brand, particularly not for overseas guests. The 'exposure' or even direct sales they get from small events is not going to cover their flight ticket.

And larger events make money off of advertising the guests, so they too should pay for the guests travel/stay/etc.

>>9373935
Maybe instead have a rule where new requests have to PM a mod with an introduction/photos of them in J-fashion? Hopefully only the couple good apples will take the time to do that, and you can tell from photos real quick if they are real or creepers.

>>9375101
Almost everyone smokes. But I'm not too into the drug culture. Just weed.

>>9373401
>>9375126
Are you even part of the comm? That's not how most of the comm feel about her at all.

>She's mostly known for her soccer mom or ex-cheerleader-turned-porn-star makeup, dumb flavor of the month themed 'OTT' outfits (including a Pokémon Go one and a Kirby one) which suck as outfits but attract a lot of attention because lel fandum, her mediocre meetups and her annoying personality IRL. She's not an awful person but she's clearly trying VERY hard to be an e-famous Queen Bee in her community and that gets on people's nerves.

>>9374154
>>9374159
>2017
>riding the Leighs' dicks this hard

what are the mods getting out of being used to gratify the Leighs? free brand, i assume?

>>9375243
Maybe they enjoy it when John talks about their boobs.

>>9375246
but has he taken them shopping for lingerie yet

>>9375204
its possible they had a different experience with her.

>>9375101
So you're in Texas?
Shit. Everytime I find someone like you, you're always too far away. Really sucks too cause about a month ago I could have just flown out to TX to light up and wear lolita.... oh well.

>>9375431
come to SF, we're 420 friendly :)

>>9375431
Gah, I'd just die. Where are you located?

Yeah, I'm in Houston. Trying to find out how to ask lolitas about this. It's super hard to imagine all these girls in frills with a blunt so I was half-expecting to be given the "drugs are for losers" response to even asking here.

>>9375203
How do you suggest I go about asking? I mean, I don't want to let anyone know I smoke that doesn't because there's an immediate boundary and I'm fairly new, don't want to ruffle any feathers.

>>9375589
I could probably pull this off.

>>9375600
I'm all the up in Oregon!

And I know exactly what you mean!! I've asked about it on cgl a few times and got a LOT of negative responses and was called a degenerate every single time even though it's legal where I live, like I can go to a store and buy it and it can be like an errand...

>>9375615
all the way up in Oregon**
Forgive me I'm multitasking.

>>9375603
Use slang for weed? Low-key drop Some words? Some girls are "holier than thou'" and wouldn't know it. I'm pretty sure someone will know what you mean.

>>9375603
I found this on Rufflechat. I believe this is necessary.

>>9375624
As someone who smokes weed and hangs around with normies.. don't do this. Last time I heard a guy say "tree" in reference to weed me and everyone else laughed cause fucking who says that anymore?

I feel like that's a good way to embarrass yourself and would not recommend.

Anytime I bring up weed and it seems like it's making someone uncomfortable, I just talk about something else and abandon the subject.

>>9375204
No? What about "That's refreshing honestly, because the vibe she gives off online is much different imo" makes you think I'd even remotely be in her comm...

>>9375624
I was looking up slang for weed. I found this. Did not disappoint.

>>9375615
>was called a degenerate every single time
it is a /pol/ meme, disregard any use of that word on this site.

>>9374648
Oh yeah, I know what you mean. I never liked how decentralized the lolita communities are too.

Kind of makes me wish lolita had something like how cosplayers have ACParadise or BJD collectors have Den of Angels - a nice website instead of social media pages. I know people have tried in the past, but I guess it's hard to start anew. We'd probably be ok if LJ actually kept up with the times.

>>9375204
Oh, sorry, I forgot to confer with the rest of the comm on how I'm supposed to describe my one interaction with one particular person. I'll make sure to put it on the agenda for the next meeting where we discuss how we collectively feel about every single thing related to our comm ever.

>>9375600
There's girls in my com who do, but they aren't going to smoke with you if you aren't already good friends with them.

>>9375615
Woah! Legal sounds badass, I can't even imagine that... though, as of March 1st, its decriminalized under 4 oz. in Harris County (Houston, basically) so we have a bit more freedom.

Not a newfag but definitely a newfag to this board, what's protocol for getting in touch outside of 4chan?

>>9375624
In what context? Like, ask if they smoke but say it in a way that people who don't wouldn't understand?

I should note I'm currently high, oops

>>9375633
This is great, oh my god

>>9375642
I regularly browse r/trees so it seems normal to me, but I didn't ever hear it before I discovered that sub.

>>9375649
I think this answered my question from earlier, I'm absolutely using this

>>9375869
That's understandable, I probably wouldn't smoke with most people I didn't already know in most contexts. Lolita, however, I think I would make an exception for, same way I do with people who make music.

I've been a lonelita for a while but I recently got active in my local comm. It's very small and over a large area, and there are around 12ish active members, all spread out throughout the state where I live in. Most of them live at least an hour away from me, and most of the ones that I have met are younger highschool ita types. Everytime there's a meetup, its in a place like a small local mall's food court, a dirty bowling alley, a rundown arcade, etc. I would really like to have a meetup in a more classy, clean, and quiet place such as a cafe or museum, but everytime I try to suggest going to such a place this girl says they rather go to malls and bowling alleys because "not everyone has a lot of money to spend." By the way, the places I'm recommending are all pretty cheap and affordable: a local Korean froyo place, a quiet cafe, etc. I'm thinking of just hosting my own meetup at one such place, but I don't know many of the comm members well as I've only been to a few meetups and I'm worried no one would come. What should I do, cgl?

>>9375895
I mean if no one comes just enjoy looking cute in a cute cafe? You'll probably have someone turn up though honestly and if you take cute looking pictures together it might pique the interest of others.

>>9375875
Yeah, decriminalization is nothing compared to I can walk a block and buy an ounce in a shop that is in the downtown metro area where the rich old folks live. (the old folks are also in line to buy lol)

Also slang for weed is different in different areas, I should have noted that when I told my silly story. That guy was generally embarrassing too, it wasn't just that he called it that but he was also the kind of pothead to talk about it nonstop unwarranted. Which can also be seen as annoying and probably the #1 reason people on 4chan don't like people talking about it. Any other board and you'd "memed" into oblivion.

That goes for in real life, too. Some people get annoyed real fast when the pothead wants to talk about pot because it's a common stereotype for stoners be all "HEY GUYS I AM STONE RIGHT THIS MOMENT LISTEN TO ME BE HIGH WHILE YOU ARE NOT"
So just stray away from stuff like that.

The best way I've been able to mention to people without it being super obvious like the above was to just say I smoke and then when someone assumes cigarettes - I correct them and they usually either chime in like "oh, me too" or they just change the subject and I move on as well cause it's clear they aren't interested.

I've dropped my email but you can also join the cgl discord because I'm on there often.

attempting a polite sage but idk if that works if you list email or not in the name field I've never done this but this is OT as fuck.

>>9375910
How to identify a pot smoker: There response is "Smoke what?" That's when you know you have a pot head lolita near you. I do the same with normies.

>>9375879
We've had a couple of weirdos in our com do some crazy things, so they are more wary about being open about things like since it's not legal in our state.

Just keep talking to the girls in your com, I'm sure there's some who you'd get along with who also smoke.

>>9375895
When hosting a meet, I make sure to include a link to the menu or the price list if it's an activity, including prices for students and regular, so that guests can see beforehand if they can afford to come, or if they will come only for a drink or snack and plan eating at home, etc.
I also check if there are any free exhibitions in our area that we could check out.
Does any of that would work for you?

>>9375949
Exactly. It's how I've met everyone I needed to meet within my city honestly.

>>9375101
If your in Texas I'm down to smoke it up with you! I use it mostly for anxiety bit sometimes I can't help but just sit and doodle and watch anime/movies.

>>9376043
Someone needs to make like a chat or group for lolita stoners. Call it "Frill20".

>>9376052
It could be apart of the good discord we have? The place is pretty active still.

>>9376065
Whih is the good one?

>>9375910
Jesus, an oz?? How much is that typically? Measure in dresses, not dollars, lol. Every moment I'm at work I measure my time worked by what jfash items or how many grams I can buy with the money I made working x amount of time.

Yeah, I was iffy even saying I was high in the last reply, I didn't want to come off that way but I was also fairly certain I sounded high. I have friends who are the type to post obnoxious shit about weed everywhere on social media and since I also happen to smoke, I end up getting lumped in. I know people who I don't even interact with much but I get grouped in with constantly because we all smoke weed and they cosplay and I lolita.

Cgl discord, I'll have to get in on that. I think I've seen a thread. I'll shoot you an email with my discord name and such tomorrow after work!

>>9375968
Oh jeez, sounds like a chunk of fucking narcs. Sorry for that, anon.

>>9376043
Dude, I'm down! Are you on this aforementioned discord as well?

>>9376052
This. 1000 times this.

>>9376079
For the cheapest ounce I know of in my city, it would be on par with buying like a very old plain AP JSK. Or like pic related from baby.

>Every moment I'm at work I measure my time worked by what jfash items or how many grams I can buy with the money I made working x amount of time.
Dammit. You sound awesome. I did this when I was working for tips and every time someone put a 20 in the jar by the register all I could think was "OH I AM GETTING SO CLOSE TO DOLLY CAT NOW" and I would get all excited and tell the people they could eat and hang out as long as they wanted.
Pretty sure I bought Dreamy Planetarium when a bunch of firefighters tipped like $30 and they stayed past closing and we all just cleaned up around them. Thank you firefighters!

Also I haaaate getting lumped in with other people like that. I always make it a point to tell people why I don't listen to reggae. Like it seriously wouldn't be in my best interest in the area that I live in to just be another annoying pothead with a Jamaican flag.

Look forward to hearing from you!

>>9376052
I don't even like weed but I want to join just because that's a good joke...

>>9375243
maybe for Daniela getting her a lolita-related job? She's married so her citizenship is solid, but she could totally do better since she single-handedly did a lot for My Lolita Style (Mexican lolita events)

>>9375615
Where I live it's been legal for years and most people don't give a fuck, but whenever someone makes a big deal about smoking Da Weedz in lolita they're an obnoxious (and often underage) edgelord nobody would want to smoke with anyway. That's why I tend to roll my eyes at stonerlita posts. To me it's like someone bragging about drinking beer in lolita as if that makes them part of some secret cool kids club.

>>9375991
Yes, that should work! There aren't many museums nearby, this is the central IL comm so it's mostly rural areas, but including prices or links sounds like a great idea, thanks so much anon!

>>9376466
I mentioned that type of behavior in one of my posts.
I actually met a really cool girl because she was trying defend herself in a thread where she casually brought up working in the weed industry. She was just mentioning her job and people got pissy. It was amazing. Then people accused her of blog posting even though they were the ones engaging her in the first place. (well she shouldn't have defended herself hurrr)

In real life I get it. Here? yeah there are lots of underageB& fools on here but honestly I think those posts are obvious and about really fucking immature shit - like the unbearable shoop nonsense going on in another thread. Also above comment in parenthesis. Underage folk don't have very expansive minds yet and rely on repetitive humor because it isn't lost on them yet so they still actually find stupid shit like pic related funny.

What is the toronto comm like? i am moving back soon and thinking about trying to do lolita again

>>9376621
Friendly. They're in Canada.

>>9373237
we used to but he started to guilt girls in to giving him money and scamming girls and hes now gone still wears lolita but one one lolita still talks to him he caused so much shit

>>9377064
Gross!

Stripper wearing Antique Beast headband on the job in my IG feed, I'm pretty triggered.

>>9377064
David/Akira?

>>9376474
>>9375991
Do this! I mention it anytime I host a meet so people can plan ahead for budget and dietary needs.

I apologize for the state of the comm. Feel free to PM me (Lily) next time. I'd love to hear what sort of ideas you have to make the comm better (or for anything, really. Sometimes I feel like a lonelita, so it's nice to chat online too). I won't reprimand you, but please, next time, just PM the mods if you have any issues. I might be more understanding than the other though since she doesn't go on 4chin.

In the mean time, I'm going to have to start taking control of the comm again and/or encourage the older members to be more engaging. I really miss hosting proper meets at nice places like cafes and historic homes - and thing is, they're not terribly expensive places either.

I appreciate the younger/newer members' enthusiasm, but I've seen that the guidelines of allowing members host meets have kind of backfired on quality of events.

The problem is that our comm is split with younger girls just getting into the fashion and older people who can afford the fashion, but are busy with university and/or work/adult lives to be able to host meets often (myself included), and of course, distance is a problem which I hope can be solved with people making an initiative to reach out to lolitas in their area.

Hopefully things will improve when I move back to the McLean area, that way I can be in between the north and central parts of CIL

Btw, I've compiled a list in the file's section on places to visit in the area. It's a WIP, but I hope it'll help give you ideas in the future.

>>9375895
Find a small group of lolitas in comm and make friends and do small meets with them. It's more fun that way anyway

>>9377190
Either get over it or unfollow her. Quit bringing up boring drama holy shit.

>>9377306
This. The "sexual stuff is nasty and only for tumblrs" meme needs to fucking get already.
I'm not saying we need to talk about sexual stuff but people really need to chill out over it.

>>9377300

shit, I need to edit that page. I just realized that fb made updates long ago about formatting, and I want to get rid of the blogpost style.

/polite sage

>>9375649
This pleases me.

>>9377334
>see photo of Alpacas enjoying baked goods
>zoom-in
>it's pot brownies
>ladyboner becomes flaccid

>>9377334
Lmao talk about "high tea".

>>9377334
>also just realized that I had committed hypocrisy

Wow. Again, I am sorry.

Time for bed.

For clarification, I'm not going to ban or put anon in some warning list, at this time. The rules/guidelines are still new, so I'm figuring out the grey areas, and I don't want to make it a bigger deal than I already made it.

If you're interested in a sneak peek, I'm thinking about hosting a tea party at a theatre next month, but I'm afraid I'll have to wait until I hear back from a potential big kid job. I'm also considering a planetarium visit or a First Friday art show; since that's an evening event, it might be good for the older members.

>>9377344

kek. Unfortunately, this isn't my photo, and I can't retrace its origins.

>someday, I too shall be able to afford two expensive hobbies at once

(polite sage)

>>9377344
Uhhh... that's not what pot brownies look like.

Also don't be stupid and eat flower... you have to cook it first...

>>9373237

We have a couple transwomen, one that dresses super nice in toned-down Classic and gothic, and one that's it's as FUCK. All the other "brolitas" are fakebois and genderqueer "nonbinary" kids.

>>9375600
>>9376043

I just found out today one of the mods for Houston smokes. Went through her photos and saw she has a Pokemon masterball grinder. You think Bling Up can customize my grinder? They do vapers.

>>9377423
I feel like there is a very large, very unexplored crafting side to the lolita/marijuana thing. There's so many accessories you can make cute!
Also I have a pink grinder.

Also, maryjanes anyone? If we can ever managed to get a stoner lolita group together of some kind - we have to call it that. it just makes too much sense.

Does anyone know what happened to the post on HLC? It was a girl saying something about Esca. Did a mod take it down?

Does anyone else have a "perma ill" lolita in their comm? Why is this such a common trait and how annoying do you guys find it?

And I don't mean mental illness. I'm talking about the ones that have every physical ailment/sickness in the book even though they show up to meets just fine.

>>9377455

two or three girls in our comm with actual diagnosed chronic illnesses that they take medication for, but most everyone else is just tumblr-sick with a popular mental illness of the week.

>>9376621
friendly but somewhat disjointed. most lolitas from anywhere near there are in the southern ontario or london ontario groups. both very kind best-friendy type groups

>>9377457
>two or three girls in our comm with actual diagnosed chronic illnesses that they take medication for
The girl in my comm is diagnosed too but I don't think that makes it any less bullshit. She reeks of hypochondria.

I'm not looking to talk about those with actual problems. I want to hear about other people who have encountered people who complain WAY too much about something physically being wrong with them when nothing is visible, they show up to meets, and yet all they do is whine about how they're dying.

>>9377455
>I'm one of them
It's a hobby that doesn't require a lot of physical stamina and shopping, browsing cgl, and other lolita sites gives me something to do when I'm not well enough to play video games or work on crafts. I make it to every meet because it's usually the only social outing I have in the month and feel like it's worth feeling like shit after. Other than being expensive, it's a really attractive hobby for people who can't do much physically because of how internet oriented it is.

>>9377542
Did you read the comments after that one or did you read that one and need reply immediately?

You know they're just starving themselves to the point where they can't live a normal life and then cry about being sick even though they're doing it to themselves for the precious burando.

>>9377552
I read them and you seem to assume that if someone doesn't look physically sick and can show up to meets that they're full of bullshit even if legitimately diagnosed when that simply isn't true. The complaining is annoying but so are hasty judgements and whining about other people's lives.

>>9377435
This is probably a very unpopular opinion but you're not alone stoner-chan. I love my weed too.

I nearly bought a MILK tin for my grinds from closet child for 800Y.

I'm not sure if I'd be brave enough to join a stoner lolita community though...

>>9377558
This girl is in my comm and I know her. It's not impossible to get doctors to say what you want to hear.

She really does seem fine. I'm not going to give away who I am but because of my previous field of work, I seriously doubt she's got THAT much shit going on. I'm not talking about a single chronic illness. She's coming up with more and more shit all the time.

You know what being a hypochondriac is, right?

No one is attacking you. Yes you can be ill and look normal.

>>9377564
>I'm not sure if I'd be brave enough to join a stoner lolita community though...
So far, the hardest part is the fact that every time I meet someone who would want to join, they live somewhere else entirely. Always in another country or just plain on the other side of the globe.

The community is a wild dream I will keep chasing. It's gonna be years before I have enough money to get us all together for a giant event. But that's my dream and since it's gonna take so long, I can at least accumulate more dresses until then.

I'm gonna steal your MILK tin idea btw next time I see something like that.

>>9377568
I would totally come across the world for a FRILL20!

Holy fuck can you stop talking about weed. Stoners are the most obnoxious group of people I swear to God.

>>9377586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NZJjUU4CyY

>>9377586
You sound pretty obnoxious yourself. You should have a toke and chill the fuck out

Would a stoner lolita meetup that people have to travel to even work? All the heavy stoners I know have the mobility of a half dead turtle. They would probably get half dressed, smoke some, and then decide that chilling at home in their petticoat is more fun anyway.

>>9377622
Depending on the strain type, I can get pretty social and giddy to go out when I smoke, but I dunno about smoking in my pretties, I put a hole through one of my maid outfits once and I don't really want to do that to any of my precious burando.

But you're right, lol I'd probably not even get dressed or my make up...or even move.

I have had some weed before a meet up once, in the morning, but that was a bad idea because it just made me a lot more shy than I normally would have been. Could barely even talk to people, and definitely not strangers.

>>9377586
This tbqh

>>9377586
Smoking weed isn't something you can just gloss over anon, once mentioned it IS the topic of conversation :^)

>>9377455
One or two girls with legit but mild medical issues who don't really bring it up unless it's relevant, and one girl who absolutely cannot shut up about her fibro. I made the mistake of following her back on IG and she posts these haggard-looking selfies ten times a day with comments about fibro face, fibro smoothies, fibro boyfriend, fibro cat, fibro hair dye and holy shit shut up, please! She seemed fine at the meet ups I saw her at except she couldn't put on a wig properly (wore it like a hat) or zip up her skirt all the way because fibro fibro fibro. I get that it affects your everyday life and shit (assuming it's real) but she doesn't talk about anything else and doesn't let anyone else talk about anything else. It's annoying as fuck.

>>9377657
She sounds like she is faking how bad it really is for sympathy and attention. Then again she probably read something on the internet and went "I have that" all because she is a lazy bitch.

Sorry for the bitchness, I just hate how easy it is for people to fake fibro making it more difficult for us that have it.

>>9377300
Thank you! Sorry for not coming to you first. Everyone seems very nice. Thank you for being accepting of me.

>>9377300
Not her, but I don't think it's reasonable to expect your comm members to want to talk to mods when they just want somewhere to vent anonymously.

>>9377435
I have a chronic illness that causes pain and I smoke for medical purposes. I keep all of my weed accessories cute though. I have a grinder shaped like a cookie, my glass pieces are pink, etc.
I keep my weed in an antique glass limogé box because it matches my room's aesthetic. I don't really talk about it though, because I just consider it like the rest of my medication. Unless someone straight up asks, I'm pretty private about it.

I've never smoked in my lolita clothes though. I'm too scared to.

>>9377566

>she's coming up with more and more shit all the time

As someone with a diagnosis that usually comes in a terrible trio with at least two other comorbid conditions, I thank fuck every day that I don't have other problems. Yet. She could very well be figuring out the extent of her illness and what other problems it's causing.

But lel you just wanna bitch about the hypochondriac that doesn't "look" sick so whatever

>>9377674
I'm always super hesitant to call anyone out on faking but with this girl I'm pretty sure she's at least exaggerating it. If you're in horrible chronic pain 24/7 are you really going to take a selfie or picture of your crappy takeout every hour and a half? It's like IG is her only hobby and having fibro is her entire identity and that's fucking sad. Another thing pinging my attention whore radar is the fact that she spams every
>mfw fibro :-(
selfie with twenty chronic illness-related hashtags. I use less than half that number of hashtags when I'm attention whoring my outfits.

>>9374612
I wouldn't worry about Britt whatsoever. She is anti-AM but doesn't bring up the situation anyways. She's a quiet girl from the meets I've seen her at; and new to the fashion. She's sweet though. Hopefully SQ doesn't change that.

>>9376457
Her marriage is bullshit. They dated for barely 2 months and then got married.

>>9377676
You have a point. I'll keep that in mind next time.

>>9377675
It's no problem. I have no qualms about people coming here. I'd rather that members be more mindful about name dropping the comm or posting members.

>>9377830
I'm sorry, you're right I should have thought before I mentioned the name. I've never posted another member on here, though.

>>9377441
No idea. I'm not friends with Esca, but she's an older member and the mods are newer, so they probably didn't care.
I would be a little more careful about deleting posts about a members passing though, that's just a bitch move.

>>9374300
I am a brolita also, but I am solo and never wear it outside my home. I always try to do my best to make it look best on me. I totally love the fashion.

>>9377460
wow really? fuck me. i'm moving from london to TO. i thought there was no lolita comm here wtf :(

>>9378091
What happened to begin with? Passing?

>>9378115
>never wear it outside my home
this made me really sad

>>9378142
lol wtf its the biggest comm in ontario mate? dont you have facebook?
im sure youll meet some lolita in toronto but other than anime events (which are attended by SO and london anyway) itll mostly be in passing, big city n all

>>9378142
Oh honey no :( We try to have a meet at least once a month and the comm is full of sweethearts. We've also done some panels at the local cons here. Even if you're moving soon, you should come out to a meet or two. We sometimes do joint meetups with the Toronto comm so you might be seeing us again.

It's London Ontario Lolitas on Facebook. Shoot if you have any questions.

>>9377622
>All the heavy stoners I know have the mobility of a half dead turtle.
That's sad. I know nothing but high functioning stoners - they just aren't lolitas.

>>9377634
This is why I vape in my burando or just use a bong. Never a joint/blunt. Just like never a cigarette.

>>9377748
>But lel you just wanna bitch about the hypochondriac that doesn't "look" sick so whatever
Sure sure. Actually I was hoping to get a discussion going because in the past we have had threads where we talked about stuff like this and this is the first time where I've seen it in person. Remember that girl with the wheelchair?

Yeah. But okay. I'm just a cunt because you're upset.

Stuff like this:
>>9377657
>>9377779


It's amazing how many ill people got super offended over this nonsense btw. Chill the fuck out you mongs. Just trying to have a discussion. Sorry I was irritated by some bitch in my comm and I posted about it in the appropriate thread.

>Bodyline's head is literally a sex offender
>Models and big brands still attending AM/sending items to Leigh's store

Let's make 5 threads about Haenuli though.

>>9378535
oops wrong thread my b

>>9378525

Nah, you're not a cunt 'cause you wanna vent anonymously on the internet. You're just coming across as one of those super misguided young social justice sallies that take it upon themselves to be the disability police. You know the kind, the ones that gatekeep like their lives depend on it if you don't "look sick enough" to be chronically ill or you have too much "able-bodied privilege" because you can walk without a mobility aid.

I'm not saying you are, but I'm sure that's what's getting the sicky-chans in the thread all riled up.

>>9378550
Oh. Definitely not. I called people mongs which is short for mongoloid. or if for some reason even though it would be out of context in this instance, it can refer to Mongolian, but again, that's not relevant.

Anyway. That didn't even occur to me that I would be coming off as SJWey. Probably because that was never my intention and I'm not that kind of person. I was seriously just tired of this girl having every illness yet she's always the one running around and being crazy. She just doesn't come off as someone who has any kind of illness. And like I said. Just because your doctor says so doesn't mean it's so. There is such a thing as a second opinion.

Replying to all the frill20 posts I missed.

>>9377586
Sounds like you need some weed, anon.

>>9377334
This is adorable.

>>9377409
WHERE can I get this pipe? Also, I make edibles for a living, it's a process. Technically you can eat flower and get high if you eat enough, but the most efficient way to absorb the THC is through concentrate, which is an even more difficult process. Good on ya for keeping people from eating bud, it's a waste.

>>9377423
Pff, that's pretty sweet. Not acquainted with Bling Up, tried to look for a website but it's down; I would email and ask! Maybe if it's a brand new one with no traces of bud, though I think that'd be assumed. I don't see why they wouldn't.

>>9377435
Even the torch is pink! So cute. I'm considering making a lolita stoner youtube channel, that'd be good exposure for other lolitas who are too scared or prefer not to say much to anybody about their smoking habits.
>maryjanes
I always thought the same thing, my boyfriend always asks if the shoes I'm wearing are maryjanes just so he can say it.

>>9377564
Stoner-chan, how cute! The tin idea isn't bad, holy shit, why has that never crossed my mind? Fuck!

Also, if a stoner-lolita community arises, I hope you will build up courage to join, anon! You sound like a nice gull.

>>9377568
We should start an online community, I saw another anon say something about adding a chat to the Discord server.

>>9377622
>mobility of a half dead turtle
kek
I think this is a valid concern, but once we gather people in an online community, this is definitely something to discuss.

>>9377634
Also valid concerns. Aforementioned boyfriend gets scared when I smoke in my burando, but >>9378518 has a point; my bong is prone to being knocked over and I don't know how I'd live with myself if I spilled nasty bong water on my frills; vape though? Genius. I would love to make cutesy edibles too. I can make edibles out of any recipe that calls for butter or oil, so almost any food is possible, really.

>>9375910
Sorry it took me so long, man! Emailing shortly.

>>9378091
>>9378194
That's making the assumption that the mods are all new to the comm, which they're not. Anyways, I know Esca and she did not pass away. It was a post about something she was dealing with but someone posted about it without asking her permission, which is why a mod deleted it since she didn't get her consent.

>>9372569
From what some of y'all are describing she might have TMAU its a body odor disorder that can make someone smell like fish bo garbage and Poo no Mount of showers are deodorant can fix it but this it just my thoughts

>>9377513
I know one girl on fb who annoys me.
Shes always posting about how she doesn't have enough to eat (but is the size of like 3 normal people combined), how she's so sick she couldnt go to work and got fired, ect... thats usually all she posts besides random stuff she wants to buy.

>>9379041
proofread your goddamn posts

>>9379071
Gross. It's scary I can think of people exactly like this.

>>9379193
Proofread* posts.* you're*

>>9379201
Please don't try to fix things unless you know how to fix them. You're an adult, you should know the difference between "your" and "you're."

>>9379021
Pfft. It's all good.

>>9379204
How dumb are you...

>>9379201
>>9379247
"Your" is correct here for goodness sake. It's not "Proofread you are goddamn posts." now is it?

>>9377586
Agreed, this is why people say weed is degenerate. You handed out emails, why are you still here being completely off topic and making up retarded phrases?

everyone chill >____<'''

>>9379249
You're dumbass.

So a couple girls in my comm have basically come out and told everyone they have BPD. I wish that I could recommend anyone with a personality disorder do this so that everyone knows who to avoid like the goddamn plague. No one needs that shit.

>>9379481
i was interested at
>couple of girls in my comm have basically come out...
when will lesbian lolita comm

>>9377805
Daniela pretty much married to get American citizenship to legally be able to spend the rest of her life working for AM. She's got some low goals.

>>9379582
jfc this please
can we just make a facebook group for it? i want to write romantic, neatly-penned letters to somebody on beautiful stationary haha

>>9379642
t.b.h. if the stoners can have their own lolita group, why can't there be a lgb one?

>>9379644
There already a LGBT one but it's mostly dead/a mess.

>>9377564
remember novala takemoto's arrest?
smoking weed is the first step on your way to becoming momoko, yo.

>>9379670
a lolita dating group is obviously gonna attract drama and batshittery like flies to a corpse.
we should just make a second, secret group. invite only, no fucking nutjobs. idgaf if you're cis/trans/gay/demi/whatever but the mods on this group have to be hard-ass motherfuckers about shutting down the crazies.

>>9379757
this

Some low key drama in my comm:
>be admin
>other admin doesn't participate in the fashion >literally still admin because she is a control freak
>Suggests we make a secret comm for friends only and delete the normal comm
>The comm is active, she and her circle are the ones who don't really participate
>Offer X or Y member to take her place since she is seems to be looking for an out
>Control freakness kicks in
>Refuses
>Still wants to delete the currently active comm

I still feel disgusted.

>>9379757
So I'm new to this but I can do a lolita discord?

>>9379798
Meant frill20

>>9379794
This is literally the beginning to having the same drama the last thread had with NYC. As a mod don't let her delete the main comm and if she does then just make a new group under the same name. It's super shitty and of she wants to leave she should just leave but don't fuck the comm.

>>9379798
>>9379802
Someone has to.

>>9379794
i will never understand when i see shit like this. if you want to make a "secret" comm with friends only why not just make a fucking group chat? if its just u and ur friends it shouldnt be that hard to make and organize private events or just go out to lunch thru the chat.

>>9379848
Got it.
Frill20
https://discord.gg/dfxbx

>>9379866
The link closes at 6:49am

>>9379794
>same admin
>annual purge occurs
>removed inactive members
>removed members notice and request to be let back in
>admin doesn't want to let some members back because she doesn't like them
>I let them back in
>reminded every time I see admin and company
>BTW thanks for letting X back in, they're cunts
>inactivity =/= banning
>I say, "If the comm banned people for being assholes we'd all be banned."
>I'm at a loss, removing her as admin would cause so much unneeded drama
>for now I just listen to the elitist attitude and waves of negativity

>>9379881
Damn is this about SQ from HLC? Sounds like it....

>>9379883
Nope, significantly smaller comm in another state.

>>9379794
Maryland seems to have this too. Their mods aren't active at all.

>>9378525
I feel like we are in the same comm Anon, I am getting sick of the stream of instragram posts too but I don't have the heart to unfollow.

>>9379481
It annoys me how personality disorders are now looked at as an illness rather than what they are: an indicator that you're a cunt with a horrible personality.

I kinda wish my comm would do a FB purge. Last time I checked there were 300+ members but only like 50 of those ever say or do anything. I understand if someone can't make it to most meetups or doesn't have a lot to say on the community page but if you've been a member for three years and have never made a single post or been to a single meetup, why are you here...?

>>9379892
nayrt but whether we're in the same comm or not I feel your pain. I follow 35 people on IG yet #chronicallyill-chan takes up at least half of my feed. I'm looking for an opportunity to unfollow without making the coming meets awkward because even though most people probably wouldn't notice an unfollow, this chick clearly spends her entire life on IG.

>>9379924
I agree 100%. You're not really "mentally ill", you just have a bullshit maladaptive personality and you think everyone else should deal with it because being introspective too hard.

One of the Cluster B girls had the nerve to tell a girl with bipolar that she would eventually get diagnosed with BPD because "rapid-cycling is pretty much always BPD".

>>9379582
I'm pretty sure 80% of lolitas are bi or gay.

>>9379670
Yeah I'm in it, it's pretty dead.

>>9379670
>>9380196
It was full of stupid trenagers and their tumblry posts and fakebois. As a bit lolita in my 20s that definitely made me stop looking at the group and never post. I think most of us felt the same way. Also it had a really cringy brolita posting disgusting coords but ofc since it's LGBT it has to be asspats only.

If there is another lolita lgbt group to be made I sadly foresee it going the same way unless we have a lesbians/girls only one.

>>9379873
https://discord.gg/3pNad
Frill20 discord

>>9380237
Was gonna say, you might want to make it an LGB group, no T. The moment transpeople get involved, it slips into this messy garbage where FTM get over sensitive about everything like being misgendered and MTF tend to be super fucking catty/slutty.

>>9373692
Still salty a land whale is running the SXSW fashion show and then posted up applications for it a month before the show is suppose to happen.

>>9380245
B-but anon that's transphobic and exclusionary!! You can't do that, it makes you literally hitler!!

I agree though. When it comes to lolita, most 'transmen' are insecure fakebois and most 'transwomen' are overdramatic sissies. Excluding them is your best bet but the SJW backlash won't be pretty.

>be mod
>Going through a week's worth of requests
>We message any new request before letting people in to make sure that's are actually into Lolita or not random "I want a Lolita gf" creeps.
>One girl replies immediately.
>She's a furry
>OK nbd we have a few nice ones in the comm
>Says it's cute, but Lolita "isn't my thing"
>OK why the fuck are you even here?
>Has decided her "fursona LOVES Lolita" and wants to wear it out to meetups while in character for this particular fursona.
>Nope. Nope. Nope.
>Tries to nicely explain the difference between the fashion and a fursuits costume.
>Even though we have several furries in the comm they all keep the fashion and their fursonas separate.
>Furry flips their shit
>"Fine! I didn't wanna be apart of your group anyways!"

Be nice to your mods guys. You don't know the kind of bullshit we put up with to keep your comms relatively peaceful.

>>9380245
>>9380262
This so much. I have no issue with people being trans, but its the trans' people's attitudes that I abhor. They ruin everything and make it about them whining or attention seeking.

Tfw so many of us just want mature female lolita girlfriends or just friends to discuss this with.

We will never get to have that because SJWs.

>>9380332
>>9380262
>>9380245

#NotAllTransPeople
But you probably wouldn't know it because most of the nice ones don't make a point of telling you they're trans. Though I suppose they also don't usually seek out LGBT in ___ sub culture groups.

It really annoys me that there's some loud minority of people hoping on the 'gender fluidity/etc is cool' train, but you guys should also be able to recognize that those people aren't representative of all trans people in J-fashion.

Excluding everyone because some of them are awful is explicitly transphobic, it's not an SJW thing. It'd be like banning all the bis because there's some loud minority of I-only-date-men-but-claim-I'm-bi people in these groups.

>>9380352
>It'd be like banning all the bis because there's some loud minority of I-only-date-men-but-claim-I'm-bi people in these groups.
Don't see a problem with this either. No one has a right to inclusion in private social groups.

>>9380352

>>9380377 has it right to be honest. This inclusionary attitude is fucking toxic. Since when does everyone have to be a part of everything? People have a right to discriminate in their own circles. If someone wants to make a group exclusively for biologically female lesbian lolitas who ride unicycles and not allow anyone in who is not all of the above then they fucking can??? Like, if you feel excluded you're free to make your own one and people are free to pick whichever one they want to join but you are not entitled to be a part of everything you want to be a part of.

>>9377455
I know a lot of lolitas with illnesses use lolita as a pick-me-up or a form of escapism. That might be why it's common to see.

I have a visible chronic illness. I sometimes have to use a cane or a wheelchair depending on how bad my day is. I always feel like a burden to my comm. I try to avoid talking about my illness but sometimes I need to take a break in the middle of a meet or have to avoid more active meetups. I try to be accommodating and let the meet go on ahead of me. I hope that I'm not bothering my comm too much. I feel like I'm such a nuisance to them but I love being part of a community with something I love like lolita.

>pic related but not me

>>9380465
Judging by previous responses that the OP got, they were talking about the kind of people who overshare their most likely nonexistent illness for whatever reason kids overshare these days (pity points? oppression olympics? ~uniqueness~?), not actually ill people. You're fine, anon, don't worry.

>>9380465
I assume I know exactly who you are, and if you are her you're a wonderful credit to the community and we all love you.

>>9377622
I went to one recently, it would have been more enjoyable if I didn't have to travel far but it worked out ok

>>9380262
literally just make a group for lesbian/bi lolitas. if trans women join we shouldnt even know about it because the attention should be on sexuality - no pandering to fakeboiis

>>9381011
I follow you but transwomen are the opposite of "fake bois" jsyk

>>9379020
hey anon I think their site is backup but from their instagram, they moved all their sweet decoden stuff to a new brand called BB&B (BB and B?) and all the bling stuff is purely in Bling Up. Maybe the there was some breakup with the people involved in the brands? either way, here is one of the vapes I think another anon mentioned

>>9381444
Holy shit, that's adorable. Thank you so much, I will definitely look into them and post results if I end up buying anything.

Also, can someone repost the Frill20 server link? A few people are interested that didn't get a chance to join, myself included.

>>9381163
i know but fakeboiis like to make all spaces about them, real transgender people, typically, arent that fucking obnoxious.

>>9381629
I think what anon meant was "fakebois" are transmen, and transwomen are biologically male.

>>9380325
That's fucking atrocious.

>>9380325
deathly afraid of furries.

>>9381628
https://discord.gg/69KvAba

>>9380325
I'd ask which comm is this, but I think it would be better to ask which comm doesn't have this issue. The worst is con season. Furry requests everywhere.

>>9381936
Frill20 link btw

>>9381631
yes and i said they will try to take over lesbian spaces because they are fake trans and not actual trans men

>>9381444
I know whose Vape this belongs too!! If you're that anon, you're a sweety pie!!

>>9373972
Honestly, I'm so fucking done with HLC. Every fucking drama comes through that com one way or another. If it's not AM related, it's the mods being cunts. Almost all the meet ups we've been having is nothing but SQ and her friends. This isn't the com at all. There's so many of us that want to go but SQ is very snooty and exclusive. She's very elitist. I'm talking about how she's very two faced.

>>9383422
Go join HLS, anon. They're a newbie comm so maybe you can help them improve.

>>9384022
I have and I love it. The mods are nice and very welcoming. I don't feel intimidated and they don't seem elitist. I have heard rumors that SQ is not happy and is purposely trying to sabotage HLS. They got more mods after HLS decided to go public with new mods and they became a lot more active in meets right after someone announced they were going to do more meets and actually did.

>>9383422
I agree, hlc is way more organized and have better events but fuck sq, she really shouldn't be able to make all the decisions.. moving a new members picnic an hour and a half away from the original location with less than a weeks notice? The meet is no longer in Houston, were not the Katy lolita community

>>9384036
Not to mention it's mainly just her friends who are going. HLC is not organized though. HLS is not better but they're still starting out

I adorable brolita?

>>9383422
>>9384034
>>9384036
She had to move the net because of weather. It's supposed to rain all week and Katy park was the ONLY park with a pavilion available. And it's not 1.5 hours away from the original it's about 45 min. Learn where this are, it's pretty much right off of i-10 so it's a straight shot.
Also if her friends are the only ones going maybe it's because they are the only ones that actually come to meets? It's not her fault that like 10 people are the same people they go to all the meets.
If you guys don't like the meets she puts together for fucks sake make your own and stop complaining. Everyone is invited to every meet, it's not like she just invites the same people.

>>9384407
no, u fugly sissy

>>9384524
Okay SQ maybe you should have moved the date instead of going to another park because pavillion or not ill still get wet either way. Also I do make my own meets I have for awhile, you just dont get invited.

>>9384635
OK. Not sq. But that's fine. Also, who is being the elitist when you are the one not inviting then entire community to a meet?
Either way I'm not happy about it being in Katy either, I asked her to move it to another weekend but she said she couldn't. Apparently it's the only time all the mods could get together or something. I already unrsvp'd because it's just too far away for me now.

>>9373935
are most people in lolita sexist? I love lolita, but comments like these scare me.

>>9384643
Every fucking did. Not many are going to show up now. I'm asking the other HLS mods to do something. No one is complaining. We're just getting tired of her fucking shit and HLC. Half the new lolitas are moving to the other comms because of her fucking attitude and two face. None of them feel comfortable with AM supporters anyways. SQ doesn't invite the whole comm either. She handpicks people.

>>9384524
It depends where you're coming from. East side it's almost that far. Southeast it's close to an hour. Southwest it's 45 minutes and North side it's close to an hour as well. Stop being a cunt.

>>9384933
>>9384907
Why is hlc going to have a picnic in a thunderstorm anyways?

>>9384888
There are literally thousands of lolitas and yet you chose one comment on a chinese cartoon image board to be representative of how most lolitas are. What do you think friendo? Use your noggin for more than wearing a bonnet and think about what you asked and where you are...

>>9384986
Dude that's funny. Not going to ruin my burando. Is she crazy?

>>9384907
She literally personally invited all on her friends list then posts it to the comm... How is this picking? Every event is open to the comm, do you even pay attention?
Also what the hell are you talking about AM supporters? She and a lot of others hate AM. HLS does more with AM and SiW then HLC does. I'm pretty sure your delusional.

>>9385102
Then you might want to scroll up dumbass. They just posted most mods of HLC working with AM and attending to their meets. No one in HLS works for AM at all. Nice try SQ. Please stop with the HLS attacks. Get your head out of your ass.

>>9385102
>>9374159
>>9374154
Seriously you fucking cunt. Get over yourself. HLC is fucking trash.

Hey anyone can tell me about the Colorado Comm?
I might be moving there with my bf by the end of summer/this year and i see there is only one group for all of Colorado it seems...
>how often do they have meets?
>ratio itas:normal lolitas:brand whores?
>how many are active lolitas?

I'm thinking of moving to Kansas City, MO and I was wondering what the lolita comm was like over there? I noticed a really well dressed lolita on closet of frills is from Kansas City.