/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I went through a girl's cosplay page for her ita coords because she deleted me on fb and I felt salty.

>>8356204
My secret is that when I'm too lazy to wash my hair, I wear a wig. I do this even outside of lolita for normie fashion. It's kinda gross. My hair is white and if I don't wash it every day, it turns greyish-brown.

>>8356304

Ew what?? Why would it go brown is it full of dirt??

>>8356315
Not that anon but greasy hair looks darker for the same reason your hair is darker when wet.
>ewww
4chan is 18+

>>8356304
White white or just platinum Elsa blonde?

>>8356304
Have you tried dry shampoo? Is this bleached hair or natural hair? If you have bleached hair you wouldn't want to wash it everyday anyway. You should try lush no drought dry shampoo, it's citrus smelling white powder to help with grease. Also batiste dry shampoo, that has a variety of different smells

Im really in love with this one lolita/kawaii blogger/youtuber but she doesnt really know me and she isnt that famous either, i just kinda found her through my school....now everyday i see her and want to call her by her online name but im afraid it will be creepy

>>8356369
Mabe you should approach her and say "Um excuse me...a-are you anon-chan?" quietly when she's alone

Part of the reason I'm scared of joining a comm is because I absolutely hate tea and a few of my lolita friends give me shit for drinking soda.

i watched Deerstalker Picture's Lolita Weekend AM video and my heart went doki-doki every time Chokelate appeared on screen. i have a huge fucking useless crush on a stranger. kill me.

>>8356382
This isn't a bad suggestion. The best way not to be creepy, is not to be creepy.

But be careful, it sounds like you're infatuated with her online persona and probably subconsciously created an idea of who she is in your head. Especially if you're not VERY socially adept, it's easy to project that whether you're aware or not, and it'll be creepy.

I would know because this was my life before I realized pursuing people I "fell in love with" from afar weren't the type of people I should pursue.

>>8356346
If I wash it very thoroughly and have just applied toner, it's white white
>>8356365
It's bleached. Really high maintenance but I love it. I feel like it looks odd with any style of lolita except gothic though

I'm waiting for the materials to come in October to make my first cosplay.

Until then, I watch videos and look at pictures of people in it and pretend I'm in there too.

>>8356398
Just because people make jokes about the fact you don't drink tea isn't a reason not to join a com, jesus.

>>8356447
Oh i knew her before i knew about her blog and shes really sweet
i just feel like it would be so awkward to go up to her and say "hi are you princess doll?" without drawing attention or making her uncomfortable. i would definitely have to curb my enthusiasm, thats for sure

>>8356447
I need some perspective with being creepy, anon, if you don't mind, because I feel really gutted.

I tried to open up to a lolita who isn't super well known but I have been following her tumblr for a while. We wrote comments to each other on instagram and tumblr so she knows I exist and spoke to me a number of times.

One day she posted a huge vent about being in the process of overcoming an ED and cutting, and it hit home because it felt like I wrote it myself. I sent her a message full of quite a bit of support, but not SUPER creepy like let's talk about it, just that I went through something similar and wishing her the best, and if she ever felt like talking to message me anytime, no pressure. But she never, ever replied. She doesn't have a lot of "fans/followers" so she typically responds to every single ask. I know it's stupid of me but I feel a bit slapped in the face because she is actually the first person I ever told this to, not even my best friend knows, and while I didn't expect us to bond over it or become friends, her not even acknowledging my message made me really sad. The thing that sucks is we will be in the same comm soon and now it's awkward as fuck for me and I don't know what to do. I was trying so hard to not seem creepy, but I can't tell if I somehow did creep or out or if this is a "her" thing?

>>8356447
Yes. This. also just say "I just saw you on the internet once or twice but not much" or something to reassure her. And if you feel like it you can say that "...i thought you were really nice looking/liked your clothes a lot/...by the way" it will surely make her happy to see you have some kind of interest in her stuff also do not hesirate (if the convo is going well. If not do not force it and just softly abort the conversation to not make it awkward) to talk about kawaii stuff and lolita with her to show her you know about about aln too. She will maybe feel excited to see someone that has similar interests at school. Just try to be calm and just speak quietly. If you look kinda embarassed or nervous it's totally ok but do not play a kawaii shy desu character try to be your casual self but show some moderate "shyness" at first since i think it will make her more comfortable than someone that comes like "OH HAI I SAW U ON THE INTERNET SO I HERD U LIEK KAWAII SHIZ?"
But i am an introvert weeb so my tips may be shit.

>>8356599
> if she ever felt like talking to message me anytime, no pressure
> no pressure
> being upset she didn't reply
Some people just don't like to talk about it. You probably didn't creep her out, but it's probably awkward as fuck for her too. You can continue giving her support, but if she doesn't want to talk about it, she doesn't want to talk about it.

>>8356599
Sometimes people keep messages of support and understanding in their inbox so they can re-read it easily.

>>8356595
Wait for her to be alone and casually approach her before saying something like
"Err, excuse me but..are you...princess doll?"

>>8356612
This. Some people feel very awkward talking one on one about personal feelings (although they also usually don't vent about them to the public so idek), and she may have either just 1) didn't want to go into details, or 2) didn't know how to reply and then felt too awkward to respond after too much time had passed. I say just continue talking to her like it never happened, and if she keeps chatting with you she clearly didn't think you were a creep.

>>8356369
i guess i will see what happens tomorrow at school
even if we dont end up "together" i hope i can be her friend, it would be nice to have a lolita friend

>>8356612
>>8356618

I meant no pressure to talk to me about her ed/cutting. But some kind of... acknowledgement would have been cool. And now that we will be in the same comm soon, idek what to do.

>>8356641
Aw i hope the best for you. Go for it and live a kawaii yuri lolita romansu

Kotakoti obsessed anonette here.
I found the exact same Vitasoy drink she has in one of her gifs today while going to the asian supermarket and i feel really happy. I finally made a plan of her whole room back in america but still unsure about one place. I amgoing to find all her old kawaii clothes i liked (or look alikes) when i am done with work. To answer questions from the prev thread do NOT wanna be internet famous or anything tbh i don't expose myself much or at all in general bc i am an introvert and anxious as hell. I was somewhat known on tumblr but quitted bc i felt uncomfortable. I just feel obsessed with her old self i don't know...i don't even care about her now she is as boring as a rock and i don't like her 2010 post-scene self either. Only 2011-2012. I was the same with a unknown sweet lolita back then and would write down the name of her dresses,items,..all that she liked and that i liked back myself. But then she grew up like Kota and is ultra boring now. Like kota. I just have the need to "stalk" someone it's fascinating to me idk it mqkes my pathetic life exciting like i just sherlock my way up to find the name of their stuff,the music they use,their clothing,their room,the pixels they used on their old blogs,.. . I am so worried once i stalked through everything what am i gonna do...i miss before where there was so many cool girls to secretly stalk... Gosh. Now it's like they are all boring. meh. Anyway going back on replicating the tokidoki milk carton you see on her "vanity" in old vidyas

I'm friends with a guy on Facebook. He promotes himself as daily rococo fashion, and ow it looks so horrible! He is always making drama and getting defensive about his style.
I really want to delete him from my friendlist because he is so annoying. But the drama is just too good!

Wearing lolita doesn't turn me on, but there's something about when I wear ouji that gets me wetter than a barrel of lube.

>>8356722
>something
Autoandrophilia?

>>8356707
This is really super creepy, anon.

>>8356707
That is beyond creepy. You need help.

>>8356738
my thoughts exactly, this is not healty

>>8356736
Well shit. It has a name.
Yeah, that.
Thanks anon.

I'm Type 1 Bipolar, and last week during a manic cycle, bought a seagull's dream dress for them, putting me into me overdraft when bills came out. Reading the emails they've said they'll pay back, but I feel so stupid and worried my boyfriend will be annoyed when he finds out I'm living off tinned spaghetti until my next pay day on Friday!

>>8356204
My motivation to cosplay is to impress this boy I really like. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy making/being different characters, but I'm really just out there to snag his attention. I know what animes he likes and the games he plays. Maybe someday he'll notice me... I'm usually driven by crushes and wanting to impress a person.

>>8356409
I know your feels.
I had a dream of going to some lolita fashion show with this comm that was full of fat itas. It was in a shithole of a tea place that had astroturf and fake wood panelling. We sat on the crusty floor to watch the show. Models walked down the middle of the room wearing lace monsters of all varieties. Finally, Chokelate comes down in a huge beautiful gothic OTT coord with ten inch heels. She stops in front of me and looks down at me and starts shouting at me in German for five minutes straight. The floor then turned into water and she ascended to the heavens. It was simultaneously the most terrifying and erotic experience of my entire life.

I want to join the Houston community but I'm really nervous because it's a big comm, and I don't want to be left out, since everyone probably already has friend groups and I'm bad at making friends. I was thinking about going to the tea party, but I'll probably be too nervous to talk to people and end up sitting with the.. less well-dressed lolitas. I'm just tired of being a lone lolita.

>>8356599

Honestly if you hadn't said you were going to be in the same comm, I would have thought this was about me, so I'll weigh in with my view. Sometimes when people absolutely flood me with support, I don't know what to do. I don't know how to respond because I'm scared I don't seem grateful enough. I don't want to respond right away and look desperate. I saw the message when I was in the middle of an episode and when I felt better, forgot to reply. That's all very real possibilities for me, so she might be the same.

>>8356595
>>8356608
this is all solid advice and it seems like you should be in a perfectly okay position to be able to start a casual conversation.
However, one thing you really need to keep in mind is if she's not feelin it, then she's not feelin it. If she seems uncomfortable or whatever, or even if with no apparent reason absolutely nothing comes out of it, don't sweat it.
Don't let it become personal. She's not a bad person, you're not a bad person. Don't condemn her just because she's not into the conversation and or you. That's how you become neckbeard.

>>8356599
>>8356612
>>8356618
>>8356631
Whoa, I think it's super cool you're asking me this. Just keep in mind I'm no relationship/creeper guru and I still struggle with a lot of this kind of stuff myself, so take it with a grain of salt.

But what a lot of these other anon's have said sound pretty spot on. These kinds of posts are literally calls for attention, sometimes people abuse it, but many times it's very genuine. You definitely did the right thing giving her a personal shout out that she's not alone, but she's not obligated to respond.
Don't take it personally. Like a lot of other people have said, if she's genuine this is probably really tough on her and it's difficult to talk about.

I take it from your post you only messaged her about this once and then never got a response. That also seems like the right thing. Don't pester her about it or ever bring it up yourself. When she's ready to talk about, she'll talk about it.
So this is the thing I'm still struggling with the most. If she ever does open up to you, just listen. As much as you want to, don't tell her your personal story, or give her advice. Just shut up and listen. That's all you need to do. They only time you ever need to open up your mouth is if she asks you a question or just to give her affirmation that you're actively listening. And trust me, it's hard especially when you're empathetic to the situation.

I'm only offering this advice, since you asked, but if you ever wanna talk about you or what's going on in your life to a impartial, trying their best to be non-judgmental, person who has nothing to gain by outting your secrets lemme know. I'll give you a way to contact me.

>>8356809
>bought a seagull's dream dress for them

Why aren't we friends?

>>8356757
I know that feel anon, I know that feel.

>>8357080
I didn't even know them. They didn't have money for it, and it came up on Closet Child.

>>8356934
You and me both anon. I'd like to join the Houston comm but I'm nervous about joining for the same reasons. I hope to get over my shyness and meet some of them at Akon.

A few years ago, I bought a school girl uniform from Bodyline and had sex with my boyfriend in it. I instantly regretted wearing the uniform just for that purpose afterwards and tried to sell it off.

>>8357373
I hope you washed it.

>>8356834
i cracked up IRL, i'm sorry.

>>8356714
I'm quite sure I know who you are talking about.

I follow him too, and even though he sometimes has rather weird outfits choices and color combinations (which don't appeal lolitas to whom he is marketing himself) and then bitch why people don't find him amazing. He is going to the better direction, tho. However, I'm pretty conserned about his mental health and hope he can get help.

>>8356738
>>8356741
>>8356742
I-i don't know anons...i need help but i am too fierce to admit it.

I posted a coord of mine for conceit a while back, and people thought the jewelry I featured was absolutely stunning. Little do they know that I bought it from Hot Topic.

> jewelry is pretty much one of the only things that Hot Topic makes really well
> other than that, I hate a lot of things that Hot Topic sells

i hate how loud con goers are.
even the cosplayers i meet and respect display these lapses in self control and sperg out all over the place and it disgusts me everytime. I organize a tiny exalted game and within 45 minutes its called because people were yelling and they sent someone up to the room and threatened kicking us out.
we could do everthing and not be loud, but fucking anime fans get way excited being outside so there it is
fucking quiet down
damnit, we could get away with so much shit if you didnt scream every fucking word.

I secretly know that know one gives a shit about male cosplay, and that the female form is far more versatile and interesting. I have never had a cross drossing urge untill recently, when a girl at fanime purposefully introduced herself to turn me into a girl, and i declined. but i haven't stopped thinking about it. im 120 lbs, 5"7 with wide hips and no waist with bright blue eyes, and realizing if it was successful it would be an avalanche of questions.
i have always wanted to dress as Au Revoir Mana from malice mizer...but it was cool because hes a dude..r-right?
fug

I wish really hard we were still in old school era and act like it
I never ever wear it or very rarely i just love having lolita just to look at it it's so cute i only have a capsule wardrobe made of old school except for one small discrete print.
3 JSKs and one skirt, two blouses (a short sleeved and a long sleeved),two pair of cute maryjanes and a pair of rocking horses, 5 pair of socks and about 7 headresses (bonnets,bows,maxi pad headdresses) and three cardis plus one cutsew

>>8356834
But she's Dutch? Or did you learn German for a bit and the faint hints of German came back for your drea ?

>>8357915
do it!

>>8356707
tbh, I think there's something cute about your obsession. I guess it's not really negative in the classic salty sense and it's oddly refreshing somehow.

Since you know so much about her stuff, do you know that necklace she's wearing here? I'd like to know a lot of the stuff she wears for casual clothes.

Also does Vitasoy even taste good? I feel like it'd be icky.

>>8356998
a girl can become a neckbeard?

>>8357993
Vitasoy is the shit. I drank that stuff like there was no tomorrow. Everytime I'm in HK I gotta get it with breakfast, lunch and seriously dinner. Although it's nothing compared to real good soyabean milk, I grew up on that stuff.

>there are vitasoy phone covers on ebay
>but only for iphone6

>>8358000
Is a girl neckbeard a legbeard?

>>8356409
im insanely jealous of how pretty Choke's facial structure is, them cheekbones could cut a bitch.

>>8358003
My eternal struggle is my somewhat severe soya allergy, preventing me from tasting all the wonderful soya based products

>>8356707
Top kek I'm loving this

>>8356707
Do you have some kind of autism anon ?

Well, I actually don't think your behaviour is as bad or creepy as other anons said, but maybe you could try to look for other hobbys as well. Just remember that society think it is kind of weird. It isn't necessarily though.

>>8357915
I want to see a pic of you. At least your body from the neck down if you don't want to show your face.

Are there any grils here

I would really like a little bit of recognition. Not necessarily e-fame, but just like "Oh yeah, she has lovely coords!" But I feel with the OTT trend right now I'm never going to get noticed because my stuff is pretty toned down.

I think I mostly need to work on posing and taking a nicer coord shot. A lot of the toned down girls have a really nice simplicity to their photos that I'd like to achieve.

>>8358266
But you do look good anon, boleros suit you something fierce.
>tfw arms too fat to look like anything other than stuffed sausages.

>>8356714
I also have guess who you are talking about. He seems to be a little unstable mentally.

>>8356595
You should totally talk to her~
You said you. Know her from school right? Talk to her in the morning before class. Pursue your goals!

>>8358105
In all honesty i don't think i have any autism, but no one at all knows about it, not even Kota herself thank god, same for the lolita she never knew it, it's all a secret between me and...me alone.

>>8357993
Y-You really think so?
I'm gonna search for that Necklace but look at Ank Rouge it's one of the burando she wears quite a lot with Vivienne Westwood,Ralph Lauren Kids,Liz Liza...
(all fake she gets all her stuff from taobao, replica shops)
>>8358003
Actually drank it today!! And it's really tasty wow. And it's healthy so it's awesome (I am someone REALLY self conscious with a very skewed body image so when i eat healthy it helps me feel a bit better and less like a disgusting pudgy piggu (actually i am totally slim/average weight and "really cute" if i listen to cgl and other people but yeah, skewed body image, i see fat where there isn't any or just a lack of toning)

>>8356210
I've done this too, holy shit. Except it was for their shitty cosplays.

>>8356398
Just don't ask for Mountain Dew when you're at a particularly classy tea room and you'll be fine, anon.

>>8356631
>didn't know how to reply and then felt too awkward to respond after too much time had passed
Summary of practically all my attempts at online interaction, right here. I guess my little lolita secret is that I'm completely useless at non-anonymous online socializing. I do much better IRL, but my comm is very closed off to outsiders and won't tell anyone about meetup times/locations/etc. unless they know and trust you quite well. I have zero online presence and I'm pretty sure I came off as a creep using a random young woman's picture and an otherwise empty profile. I understand why they're so reserved, but building an online presence is so difficult of me that it's practically not worth it.

>>8356834
She was just talking anon, the german language has few volumes: i dgaf, asking a question politely and passion.

>>8357922
Amerifats tend to think the Netherlands is just a province in Germany where people like to ride bikes and smoke pot.

>>8358171
try /ck/

The main reason I use /cgl/ is because I'm a sperglord who's online all the time and struggles to resist the temptation to post walls of text. At least on 4chan what I post is anonymous, so the fact I post reams (then at other times don't post at.all for weeks) isn't tied to my real name.

>>8358735
i do know her from school but we are kind of friends? i think im just going to leave things like they are now. maybe i will comment on her blog or something. i think she'll post soon anyways. i saw her writing a princess lesson earlier

oh that sounded creepy no im not being weird we are in a class together

>>8357922
I suppose my dream logic is that she moved to Germany, therefore she probably learned some German.

I don't like anyone I've connected with through lolita. All my lolita friends are dull people who are only good for talking about lolita stuff to.

>>8359017
Do you have a link to her blog? I'd like to read it and the princess lessons she has. And don't worry. You're not creepy. I still think you should go for it though. You don know if she likes you until you try~

>>8356657
I know the thread has moved on but, if you messaged her on Tumblr (assuming since you said "asks"), their messaging system is absolute fucking shit and will eat messages without warning. I've had folks message me asking if I got their previous messages when I hadn't, and conversations that were going along fine just suddenly die for no apparent reason. Unfortunately there's no way to know if that's what happened, though.

>>8359050
um sure her blog is princessdollblog on blogspot
and no she is kinda struggling with this annoying boy
hes kinda creepy i think he stalks her? i heard her talking about it to someone. i feel like if i approach her now she might be overwhelmed.

>>8358171
Dick or gtfo

>>8356934
>>8357232
You guys should just dive in! Think of it this way, the comm is so big that you're bound to hit it off with at least one or two people. I've heard that Brooke (MissLillith) is super nice and welcoming to newbies, too.
First anon, if you end up going to the tea party in June you can sit with me and my friends! I'll be in Wonder Party in sax. We're not from HLC but one of my friends knows a LOT of the Houston folks so we can help you mingle if you want.

>>8359058
Not meaning to be rude but maybe she needs a friend right now because of the stalker boy thing? There's no harm in talking to her, right?

Lolita has made me appreciate the beauty that I have as an Asian.

Before lolita, I thought it was impossible to makeup Asian eyes and I hated the shape of my small eyes, but lolita inspired me to look for tutorials and makeup that flattered my eye shape. Interestingly, I've never felt the need for eye tape, and I continue to be of the same opinion. But now that I know how to adjust for my epicanthic folds, I've really grown confident in enhancing my eyes, and being proud of my eye shape.

Before Lolita, I used to despise my small boobs, but Lolita made me appreciate them and made me realize they're an okay proportion to my body.

And before Lolita, I used to hate my pale skin. I thought it was far more attractive to have a "healthy tan." Not only am I embracing my fair skin now, it's overall better for my health since I actually make sure to protect my skin against the sun now.

Overall I've honestly never felt more confident in my appearance. I think I kind of get what people mean by a "safe space." In other western fashions, I feel awkward. But in Lolita, goddamn, it's fucking cheesy, but I feel like a queen in a realm meant for me.

>>8360192
i'm very glad this fashion has helped you find self confidence anon! it does this for many people
>>8358000
neckbearditis does not discriminate based on gender. its the neckbeard in their heart that makes them a neckbeard, regardless of facial hair
>>8356834
what are you smoking and where can i get some of it

>>8360192
Not Asian but similar feels
Jfashion made me want to be feminine instead of hiding myself away with baggy menswear.
I used to feel ugly but now I've let my hair grow and started wearing flattering makeup, and I'm not that ugly after all. Turns out I don't even need much and I've had cute cheekbones all along.
I used to get teased by my classmates all the time for having small tits but now I actually prefer them.

>>8356819
Guy here who had a few female admirers who tried to subtly impress me. I gaurantee he doesn't know you're into him because if he's like me, he's probably pretty dense. One of my admirers had to actually ask me out and it worked out in the end.

Be less subtle; talk to him directly about things he likes (especially if you like them too); and go for the kill ("I-I like you")

>>8359026
Not sure if I got bad luck in the draw, but everyone I have met so far has been super self-centered/spoiled (going I'M SO BROKE all the time when it comes to regular hangouts, meaning I have to cover extra $, but then they flip around and buy new lolita shit daily and dresses at least monthly), or we get along but then whenever I express interest in hanging out it is impossible for them to have time or they cancel last min. This only goes for my new comm though, the last one I was in was amazing and I made 6 wonderful friends in it, but they are states away now so we don't see each other often. I am kind of over it though, I feel weird trotting around with a pack of lolitas on the weekend and sticking out like freaks.

>>8361275
Why do you have to cover for them? If they can't afford it, they don't get to go. Sucks to be them. Don't enable them.

>>8356707
>>8358800
Hey anon, it's me again (anon from the previous thread who obsesses over a few different e-famous fashion idols almost as intensely). Dude are you me, because I seriously think we are coming from a very similar place. I feel exactly the same about eating healthy things and definitely have some kind of weird perception of weight/beauty because I think I am too ugly to be in public and that I gained weight, even though I am slim and not the most hideous thing in the world. I'm actually in the process of deciding if I want cosmetic surgery tbh, not to look like anyone just to fix some, imo, features that suffered from bad genetics. I'm nearing thirty and really don't wanna look fug my entire life. I think part if my obsessing with these girls stems from my own insecurities, is it the same for you? I know having a pretty shitty life and low self esteem didn't help me, but man, I feel like obsessing over them is one of the only things that makes me relax now. :(

>>8361278
After it happened a few times I just stopped talking to them. One girl seriously expected everyone to pay her meal when we went out to eat, and then when people asked where her money was she said she didn't have any, so we were stuck covering her. With another, it was mainly in terms of transportation. She was really lazy about meeting up at my place or in the middle once in a while, so I would go have to go to her place every single time to ahng out, which would cost me nearly $20 just in gas alone, round trip. At first I didn't mind, but then she would cancel every time I didn't go to her house because it wasn't convenient for her. Yet she had loads more money than me and also blew tons of money while we were out buying food and crap. There were other things about her too that wound up driving me crazy, but those specific things are what really made me decide she wasn't worth it.

>>8361288
A-anon...yeah it helps me feel comfortable idk it helps me deal with my insecurities. I have awful self confidence and onz day just based on my weight got called "kinda chub" (116lbs/5"3) and bawled my eyes out and well...i am trying haed to recover from depression,anxiety and ED and somehow these girls...obsessing over them help me get over it and relax. I think that you just have low self confidence and are really cute. Also like my big brother once told me, skinny/=/ automatically pretty and weight is nothing more than a number on a scale. The weight will be different on every body (repartition wise) and stuff. Please think wisely before doing surgery anon. You are pretty i'm sure of it just having a hard time being confident.

>>8361304
(got called kinda chubby lile a month ago on cgl btw never ever got called that anywhere else except maybe for a tro

>>8361305
*for another thread on another board both a month ago. but those are the only two times i heard that. I did the sin of posting my body once or twice on the chans and got really positive answers that warmed my little heart.

>>8356204
Bampin'
Kota anon i am interested in the plan of her cute 'murica room as creepy as that sounds

>>8357796
>>8358526
He sounds like the same guy, but I have no idea that he was marketing himself toward lolitas.
But this is the guy I'm talking about. The outfits are somewhat improving, but the make-up...

>>8356657
IMO from someone who has had both an ed and used to cut, she could not be replying out of embarrassment. I completely stopped talking to my roommate and look ridiculous steps to avoid her and only talked through notes because she did my initial mental health inprocessing when I went to get help and I was so ashamed of how much of a mess I was.

Invite her to hang out and watch movies or something and don't mention the mental health again unless she does or it's an emergency.

>>8361562
Here anon hope you can read. The images under were the images that helped me "build" it

>>8361304
I feel you so much anon. :( I struggle with so many similar things. We should chat more, can we? It might be nice just to let each other vent and feel less alone about this ahaha. But yeah, I agree, obsessing over them helps me calm down and actually feel happy/at peace, which is something not even my favorite movies can do for me anymore. I get like, a rush of relief when I look at their pics or hunt for things they have, it's kind of the only relief I get in life now since everything else is out of control or involves too much stress. It's funny, because a few of them I found out because of hate sites (like cgl and pull, although I'm not active there) and I was addicted to the drama since I was so overwhelmed by my life, but then I seriously started idolizing these girls. Also I appreciate that, thank you. I've been considering it ever since I first started actually noticing myself in the mirror (beyond just being a kid) but it only got worse with age. It's so much money though and scary due to its unpredictability, so I am still only considering it, but I want it so bad. :( Likewise I bet you are cute too, the world has just kicked you down a lot.

I made a throwaway, since I would die of embarrassment if anyone here found out it is me who is obsessed so much with them, and post in in a few. Hope we can chat more <3 I have an even.. darker secret that goes alongside with this obsessing, but I don't even wanna go into it here. :( But if you feel like hearing me out I'd love to finally tell someone. (It's not perverted or dangerous or anything like that, just falls in like with the obsessing.) candyheartsdata at gmail dot com

>>8356204
That fucking picture made me spit out my drink
>saved

>>8360192
It's sad how happy reading this made me.

You go Anon!

>>8358800
I hope you don't mean that Vitasoy is healthy, because it isn't. It's full of sugar like any other drink. Tastes great, though.

>>8361913
I rooms that are super clean like this.

I own too much stuff to be able to do that though.

>>8358007
Yes, this is a very real thing.

>>8356204
>>8362756
Here, have a bigger and slightly better quality version of the same picture.

>>8361304
Pff okay jk, I think someone tried to hack my throwaway haha. (Wow guys really.) If you have any suggestions about exchanging info lmk, cuz it'd be nice to talk more.

I sell my breastmilk to buy brand. Currently I sell to a NICU but I've thought about selling to bodybuilders and fetishists to get more money. I'm slightly ashamed of these thoughts.

>>8363297
(Wow really /cgl/? Really?)
I would totally like too i am really shy/introvert and potato with new people though so i may have awkward moments.

>>8356398
If you're in a tearoom try ordering fresh juice or a nice cordial instead of soda

>>8362394
>But yeah, I agree, obsessing over them helps me calm down and actually feel happy/at peace, which is something not even my favorite movies can do for me anymore.
>I get like, a rush of relief when I look at their pics or hunt for things they have
...Oh my god it's EXACTLY the same for me...

Also I would like to hear that "dark secret" i am quite curious now. Adding you on the throwaway when i come home anon thanks for the kind words i appreciated it... <3

>>8363525
It's weird, gmail won't let me log in to that new throwaway without adding my phone number because there was "suspicious activity" with the account LOL. (Even though I just made it and didn't even use it yet.) So I imagine someone or a few people tried to log in to it or something? I don't want to add my phone number to it just so I can log in though because I want my account to be as anon as I can be, so please disregard that email, I'm abandoning it cuz all that happening is weird.

I'd rather just email each other but I don't want to put another throwaway here in case the same thing happens again, would you be down for making a throwaway gaia or twitter account or something of the sort just to exchange email information? Then we can email from there. If so let me know which you prefer and I'll make an account there and tell you the username here later today so we can DM our email addresses to each other without anyone doing weird crap to my throwaway again. Does that work for you?

>>8363551
eh idk but i could maybe give you my secondary email it's phone protected and all so if anyone even tries to log in i am alerted by a phone message right away. I am kinda excited to have someone to talk to about that thing now

>>8363585
Oh okay that works for me! And yeah me too tbh, I never thought there was someone like me going who did this kind of thing (normally it seems people who do this are creepers who fetishize those they stalk or they only see them as a sexual thing) so I am really looking forward to talking with you more. I'll stand by for your email address and message you there when I see it!

>>8363669
*never thought there was someone like me who did this kind of thing* (originally wrote going through this and then forgot to check the whole thing, haha oops)

I got into lolita when a friend of mine's girlfriend who was a lolita died. That's how I found out about the fashion and got interested.

I wear sweet.

>>8363825
Oh no you got into lolita how horrible yes this must be kept a secret
>macabre sweet lolis 4 lyfe

>>8356707
I'm curious and requesting clarification because you said "an unknown sweet lolita" but then you said "she's boring now."
Does that mean you do know who she is and just don't want to name her? Or you forgot her name or something?

>>8363903
I took it to mean "not e-famous".

>>8356809
Oh my god I think we are probably a lot alike. Are you medicated? I have to be on two mood stabilizers. I don't actually buy huge purchases for other girls like that, but I do impulse buy little things and help out friends way too much and then can't afford life...and sometimes get myself into debt over my own dresses. It's tiring.

I'm sorry you're having to deal with the consequences at the moment, that's never fun. It was a nice thing you did for her though. Good luck on your journey. It's possible to improve, even though bipolar can make you feel like an uncontrollable idiot sometimes. (I speak from experiences I've been through.)

>>8357919
Me too, anon, me too

>>8363908
Oh okay. Yeah you're probably right. I feel dumb now.
Now I'm wondering who it is. I need to know now.

>>8363903
>>8363908
>>8363983
She's just a french lolita that wasn't famous at all.
She was going by the name of Near chan.

>>8363669
(Yeah most of the time they are perverted weirdos...like that one guy that commented he would put his dick through broken glass to hear Koti's fart through a walkie talkie. What even. THAT is fucked up now.)
My mail is ariseru@hotmail.com (yes how damn weaboo)
Mail me when you feel like it also still curious about your deep dark secret, i won't judge you though don't worry.

>>8364132
I tried to find as much as i could from the past about her, she deleted so many things and actually wrote really interesting stuff and yeah, her coords weren't amazing at all or anything but there was something about her...she wasn't the most interesting girl in the world, she loved death note, pokemon, cute sanrio stuff,...and also we used to do kuroshit roleplay together and be really close, like she would tease me and we had really "gay" moments. But then one day she just left me, saying she "had different interests" and that i was "no longer close to her/important". That kinda broke me, but she was like 16 back then, so we were stupid teens. now we're still friends on facebook and just are in good terms but she left lolita and became totally normalfag,she's pretty boring,we never talk,i don't really check her stuff... the old her was really interesting though. Same for kota and venus, i don't give a damn about who they are now, they became meh... but their old self was something that made me warm inside somehow...it's so bizarre

>>8358007
>high testosterone female
>grow neckbeard and sideburns have to shave/pluck 3x/week
>Honestly fuck my life
also
>started lifting in january
>my gains are coming in and my blouses are getting tight
>I want to keep doing weights and getting strong but it will mean I sacrifice dream dresses and shit like that

im so conflicted and I hate it

>>8364272
Look into testerone inhibitors. They're usually given to trans women, but they could still help you

>>8364173
Got it, thanks. :) I'll send you an email later tonight, and yeah I will definitely tell you all about it. I feel like you are the only one who could even possibly understand haha. (It's kind of akin to what you wrote about in >>8364199 actually.) Be in touch soon!

I got really annoyed because a newbie kept spamming a comm page with stupid questions, like "are you absolutely ///SURE/// that Milanoo is a bad website???" and "what's the currency for Lockshop Wigs lol". So I posted her on BTB. I haven't seen her post since then.

I'm not even a member of that comm.

>>8361302
Ah man, I had a cosfriend that did this. He'd do things like buy children's train tickets (19 but could pass as 15 and had specifically got hold of a travel card with his photo but a fake age to do it) and only eat in McDonald's to save a couple of dollars, but then would think nothing of spending $100+ on a whim on random crap when we went out. He was loaded not a poor student so the fact he still dodged train fare etc was downright offensive. Same dude would show people his bank balance to try to impress them; I cut him off after a while.

I get really self conscious when i go on cgl or lolcow. I feel like i would be seen as a ugly chub/flab girl if they went to see me and i wanna cry. I have shit self confidence.

I know a whole bunch of secrets about the inner workings of a local con... and shit is about to hit the fan. The head of the con is probably looking at jail time. They have fucked over so many people in the community it's unbelievable.

>>8363915
Yeah, luckily this time she was a really sweet girl and is paying me back today, so it's worked out today. It's a fucking nightmare, because you can't blame anyone else for taking you up on the offer, as it's me insisting it's ok, they won't know.

I'm on Sodium Valproate, Lith, Aripriprozole and Topiramate. Then all kinds of other stuff to stop the side effects,

>>8365429
Delicious, cannot wait for the drama.

Sucks for the people they fucked over though, especially if anything illegal was going on.

>>8365428
anon, i didnt know about lolcow and i have a feeling ill be on all summer reading it now.

I'm really concerned for the behind the bows anon this week. what if something happened to her?

Anyone know why Fairytale Boutique in LA closed? I just went this week and there was just a sign saying they were gone. I used to visit the shopgirls sometimes and they were nice.

>>8366711
The same reason any business closes, it's not profitable anymore. They're still running their online store though.
Sad to see it go, it was always fun to visit.

>>8366718
Their online shop never updates though.

>>8366718
>not profitable

owner marking up things at least 100%
lol

>>8366732

It doesn't mean people actually buy the things though

>>8366711
Oh the stories I know about this place and all the people involved in it Would be a best selling novel

>>8356707

I regularly post "fat acceptance" and "fat pride" encouragement comments on this one lolitas facebook posts.
She's not even that fat but I hate her and I know she hates it but can't publicly go off because of her online persona.

>>8366805
Deets please

>>8366805
>>8366877

Seconding. I never really got the feel for Fairytale Boutique? Like what were they even trying to sell?

>>8366884
Same, I'm so glad someone felt the same. Every time I went there, it was ridiculously marked up, some fairy kei, a couple AP skirts, ouji trousers, and then two JSKs for display. I never felt the appeal.

>>8363476
Keep selling to the NICU, then build yourself some queen mother/matriarch coords.

The thought of all the little princes and princesses who want you to have that dress will fit it to you better than any seamstress.

>>8356809
Congrats on holding down a job despite bipolar disorder. I get insanely overwhelmed when i try to work, part time school is hard enough. Partially because my first, horrible manic episode caused an anxiety disorder as well. Im still struggling with not hating myself for being different and not being scared of my own mind, but seeing someone else talk about bipolar disorder really kinda made me happy in like an empathy sort of way.

I love seeing secrets on btb that talk negatively of ageplayers. I like seeing them get butthurt and also I like to rile them up in the comments. I think the idea of kinkshaming is dumb and if any kinks should be shamed, things like ageplay, abdl, ddlg, etc. should be it.
>inb4 wow what an edgelord

>>8366877
>>8366884

They were supposd to be a lolita and kawaii things store, I guess? Everything was so expensive and I never buy books there because kino had the same for cheaper. Btw the owner once complained about that. But where do I start even.

Don't really wanna get really deep into it but just tell the things I saw with my own eyes that made me feel uncomfortable there.

The blond girl yelling at her weird mom.
The owner girl scolding her employees in front of us.
The owner girl being rude to some customers trying to ask her something
Everything always seemed really rushed.

It didn't feel right so I stopped going to events I just went sometimes to look at what they got and to talk to the girls working there. The girls seemed really nice at least.

>>8366902
It's actually my various disability benefits. But same difference right, money for ...something? I've had several jobs, but they never work out. Mainly because my cycles are so extreme. They say they'll find a way to work around it, to work with the disability discrimination act, but as soon they had a chance they'd sack me, over stupid shit like - "Anon, you're not a good fit" "you seem to lack the team spirit"

>>8366579
She was just at a wedding, the secrets are up now (it's like 5am here on the west coast though)

>>8366971
Please more deets when you can, anon.

>>8367415
Sorry was at work.

I really wanna tell everything but lets jus say that when you have people working for you for no money all day long but you still gotta close up shop your probably no good at business. and still buying up brand and shit from Japan like it doesn't cost anything.

LA girls are real good at keeping their mouths closed so none of this stuff gets out but there's reasons the shop closed and its all due to bad business choices. Really bad ones and I hope she doesn't trick everyone into thinking shes okay with the new store online.

>>8366971
>>8368598
You're being overly dramatic.

>>8364272
LONDON
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I was recently diagnosed with ADD, but before I was I always thought I was just really lazy.
I hated myself for the fact I could never be bothered to get up and do things.
Things really started to escalate in the last year and a half. My uni work suffered majorly and even cosplay and lolits projects I wanted to, and was excited to work on, I could never get the motivation to begin beyond buying all the materials for.
It really upsets me, I feel useless and stupid.
There is so much cosplay I want to work on, and I'm so excited for it, and I feel like a bit of a snowflake saying it, but I just *can't*. When I get up, I tell myself I need to get up and get it done, and there is always an excuse. 'Oh, I need to do this first' or ' I'll just do/watch this quickly' or I just plain don't do anything.
Now with diagnosis and medication, I have the opportunity to do something about it, except I now work ridiculous hours and over sleep consistently.
I don't have the chance to improve myself, or even the time, and it's so frustrating.

I'm a horrible person and like to bid on dresses I like on the auctions that are ending shortly for cheap and with only a single bid.
Just to raise the price.
Because I don't like the fact that they may win a dress I want for really cheap.
I usually only do this when I already have another item I'm bidding on.
If I win it for my max bid, bonus - if not, I dont feel too bad, because I made that person pay a bit extra.

>>8357176
You are an amazing person and I sincerely hope that the goodness you're sending into the world will find its way back to you.

My secret is that I absolutely hate when prople pronounce JSK as JAY-ES-KAY or OP as OH-PEE. It's jumperskirt and one piece, it even has the same amount of syllables, fffs

>>8368598
I liked Fairytale and I'm not associated with the LA comm or anything but this statement could not be more true, in any circumstances, lolita or not

>I really wanna tell everything but lets jus say that when you have people working for you for no money all day long but you still gotta close up shop your probably no good at business

My friend is a fairly popular, but text book basic bitch Cosplayer. I adore her other then this and she wants me to join in a group with her and her friends that are also of that same ilk. I don't want to be associated with her when it comes to Cosplay because of this and she keeps trying to get me to join her and I keep thinking "maybe when you stop looking up to JNigg." But of course I can't say that.

I had sex in lolita.

No cum on anything because we got everything off before we got into the heavy stuff, but my petti is now full of vaginal juices, ew.

>>8370438
Grasping at superiority straws, there.

>>8370323
It's okay anon, I have a lot of the same issues though mine stem from having Aspergers. It really sucks because you beat yourself up about it, feeling like everything is your own fault even tho you try.

My psychologist tries to remind me how it's already an achievement I graduated high school and am currently in Uni because of all the stress it causes me, but even then I feel like I didn't achieve anything.

>>8366711
>>8366805
Who gives a fuck why it closed? Seriously, LA comm doesn't need this kind of drama. Its not helping anyone.

>>8370438
I prefer to use the initials than the mangled English-into-Japanese word. Since people always use the abbreviations online, JSK conjures up images of a lolita dress, but "jumperskirt" still makes me think of a jumper (that is, sweater) and skirt.

>>8356468
Try shimmer lights shampoo! Fantastic for when your hair gets brassy. Cheap at the beauty supply shop. You can buy it online too.

>>8358868
Not Portland, OR?

>>8367415
The problem with fairytale boutique was that they prided themselves on having the consignment option for lolitas, which was cool because it was very satisfying to be able to buy/sell in real life instead of only online. But as time went by, they changed their policy (they bought the dress from the seller and re-sold instead of letting it sit for a certain amount of time and only taking a commission if it sold) which caused them to become really picky about what they accepted, thus affecting their inventory and variety. At first their stock was great, but once pickier the stock they carried were mainly OTT sweet, dresses no one wanted, or stuff by indie designers. (Wasn't one taobao?) The dresses that were in demand were severely overpriced, usually by $100 minimum, so a lot of them sat there for a while and either weren't sold, were put on sale, or were only purchased because someone was desperate for it/didn't know how to shop online.

The new merch they carried was always 3x the original price (such as Swimmer goods, mooks/magazines, chocomint accessories, hosiery, and stuff by indie stores/artists) so it was cheaper to buy from the source, even with shipping included. I would see things in the shop I liked, then find it online for at least half the price if not more.

Agreed about the shop girls, H and E were rude, snooty, and uncomfortable to be around, but I actually found the owner to be pretty nice and accommodating. Every other shop girl I met there was delightful and they were the main reason I would stop in if I was in the area (if H or E were there I wouldn't go in though.)

>>8368598
>LA girls are real good at keeping their mouths closed
Er, not really, there has been plenty of stuff about the drama on BTB before. But if there was a bigger reason as to why it closed then no, that hasn't been announced anywhere online yet.

>>8371613
H drove me and my friends crazy at meets. Such an ugly little troll with personality to match...

>>8370948
in other places, a jumper is pic related. britbongs confused me for the longest time when they'd talk about jumpers until i wad watching some BBC show where i finally got a visual to go with the word and realized to them, jumpers = sweaters as opposed to a dresslike garment meant to be worn over a shirt.

>>8356204
I secretly love being super youthful. I love it when I get those dirty little looks from ongoers because I'm out in a cute little fluffy dress with a lollipop in my hand. It's so horribly naughty and I certainly didn't get into lolita to be an ageplayer but I just love the feeling. When people don't believe me, when they think my ID is fake because I look like a prepubescent twelve year old in clothes with toys on them, when older men that I'm not at all interested in start creeping on me. I fucking love it in the most twisted way.

>>8370777
I'm in LA and I want to fucking know.

>>8359058
Oh god, it's this chick.

>>8371753

>>8371496
oh thank you anon so much. i will look into that (the current shampoo/conditioner system i'm using is $50 for the set)

I've suffered from really bad maladaptive daydreaming for as long as I can remember. It basically means that in situations where I feel powerless or inadequate, I daydream to the point where I forget about the reality around me and become fully immersed in my mind. For instance when I was a kid and used to get bullied, I would often fantasize about transforming into a magical girl in front of everyone and protecting them from some evil monster Sailor Moon-style. They'd be so grateful and impressed by me that they'd all clamor to become my friend.
It's not so bad in that it's one of the less self-destructive methods of coping, but it's definitely not an effective method either. In extreme states it's easy to fall into your fantasies for hours at a time, and to any other person you'd probably look crazy, just sitting and staring blankly into space. With the help of counseling I've been able to learn new ways to help overcome my issues, and it's been a while since I've had a full-on daydream.
However, just yesterday I found out that my ex started dating her best friend almost immediately after she broke up with me. We'd been dating for 4 years and were really serious, until one day she decided she was super ~mature~ and that nobody she knew lived up to her standards. She broke up with me under the premise of "traveling and doing charity work" and then never left the city. She tried to string me along under the premise of "being on a break" in a way that I'd always be there to baby and love her, but she wouldn't be obliged to return the favor. I told her to fuck off and never contact me again, and of course I'm glad I did. But after finding out that she really just saw me as a side bitch after giving her all that I had and for who knows for how long, I fell into the most intensive daydream I've had in years.

I want to ask my trans friend to model my tall-suitable* dresses for my Etsy not only because they are super tall and kawaii as fuck, but also a tiny bit because I feel like it would really help with publicity and sales.

Am I a bad person?

*I specifically model dresses according to who they'll suit better - Some cuts look best on tall and/or petite, boxy girls. Some look best on short and/or curvy girls, etc.

>>8372226
You're not alone. I've been suffering from MDD too for a long time. And yeah, mine gets more intense during times of emotional pain.

The only advice I can give is to stay really busy. Sounds cliche, but it's the only thing I've found that combats it.

>>8366906
Same here, "kinkshaming" is such bullshit. What people do in the bedroom is their business but if they publicly bring it up in non-kink communities they should be prepared for backlash. If you don't want me to think your vaguely pedophiliac fetishes are creepy then don't bring them up to me in the first place instead of trying to police my mind.

>>8370551
I also have Aspergers and my psychologist does the same thing, but I hate it. It just makes me feel like everyone thinks I'm a retard and are patting me on the back for being slightly less retarded than they expected me to be.

>>8356707
It's kinda nice to see someone obsessed with someone they like rather than someone they hate for a change.

>>8372173
yeah thats her shop! do you know her?

>>8376474
No, she was being made fun of on here not too long ago.

A few weeks ago I got laid off my job as a teacher, I asked to have my last paychecks deposited altogether, checked my bank account:
>tfw never had that amount of money in bank
>tfw guilt but can't stop buying burando

To be quite honest is not THAT much money, les than 10k, but I've honestly never had so much money and although I feel guilty with every shopping spree I can't stop myself.

When people don't pay for stuff they bought on LM or back out after I put an item on hold for them I usually give them a sob sorry back just because I want them to feel bad.
>anon you really shouldn't do that, I was depending on your payment so I could pay the rest of my rent.
>I needed that money for FOOD, you shouldn't do that if you intend to back out.

>>8377393
Tbh this just makes you look like someone who is really bad at money management. Who needs to sell clothing just to be able to pay rent and feed themselves?
Of course the people who flake or back out aren't exactly the most responsible people in the world, either.

>>8377396
With all the emergency sales I assume it's pretty common in the lolita community.
The only types that have backed out on me so far are people with 0 feedback who are obviously just fantasy shopping and irresponsible 15 year olds

I just really don't give a shit about cosplay. This might not feel like it belongs in a secrets thread, but there are so many cosplayers in my local lolita community that I have to keep my hatred under wraps normally.

I find cosplay discussion at meets incredibly boring, and I find any cosplay between the two extremes of "incredibly rare 100% accurate amazing representation of a character by someone who looks freakishly like said character" and "casual basic cosplay obviously just done for actual fun and not posted online" annoying as fuck. It's the attention-whoring and desire for efame and page likes from people that aren't actually that good that gets me, which is why basic bitch cosplayers that just wear it to a con but don't have a fanpage or whatever don't really bother me.

I suppose it's not so much that my comm is full of cosplayers, it's that it's full of shit cosplayers, who still invite strangers to like their fan pages, and who I can't criticize without seeming like a bitch. They're like cosplay itas. If they made quality cosplays I wouldn't mind nearly so much.

>>8376643
oh

>>8374828
Oh god exactly, and when it comes to Aspergers it's so hard to find a normal community online, most of them devolve into "like omg why do Neurotypicals think it's weird when I don't look them in the eyes???" or "I like being autistic we're special and awesome"

But yeah, like I know it's meant well but I can't help but feel nobody expects me to be a functioning adult, which makes me feel so sad I just don't see any purpose in life if I can't even support myself.

I think what makes it worse with aspergers or at least for me, is that everything feels just out of reach. For example socializing, you're just about there, but then something happens and you're the weird one again.

>>8370323
I have ADD and Aspergers. What a combo. Socially inept and unable to do any work
And I've been on medicine for ADD since 3rd grade and if I don't take it, I feel like I'm dying (everything hurts, head is full of concrete, can't do simple tasks, can't even stay awake, room spins, etc). I think I've formed a physical and psychological dependence on it

I guess this isn't really a secret, but I really want to mentor a newb lolita and have someone look up to me as an inspiration. Not in like an e-fame kinda way, but just like a younger person I know irl who is interested in lolita and needs some help.

A girl in my comm recently found out that one of her YouTube videos ended up on a cringe page. Honestly, I kind of agree with the cringe page. I couldn't get past the first 30 seconds without closing the video.

I hate omocat with a passion but I can't hate some of her clothing.

Something about shitty graphic animu sweaters just gets me.
Will never buy one though.

>>8382032
I am confused by your trip, but I feel this way too. I've known a lot of new people, but my favourite thing is dressing up non-lolitas as lolita. My younger sister's friend used to be round a lot because she was basically from an abusive household, and she loved jfashion. She couldn't own anything herself because her parents would do crazy shit like cut up clothing items of hers they didn't like (not even lolita ones, just like, a random pair of shorts) but when I dressed her up in lolita she was so happy. I'd like to do that for more people.

She's at college now, and living a slightly better life. I think she does fairy kei now? Not sure because I'm not in contact with her.

I guess my slightly shameful confession related to this is that I was genuinely disappointed my roommate, who is interested enough in lolita to try it but not to seriously get into it, is several sizes larger than me so I can't dress her up.

>>8356819
Are you me? I got into cosplay for similar reasons. I've been going to cons for a few years now but I never made the choice to cosplay even though I started to frequent cgl. Last year at AX I ran into a cosplayer I liked. I asked for her picture but I was sure i must've just been some normie who wanted to get pictures of women. So I started working out and got involved with cosplay in the hopes that next time I run into her she might notice me. Sounds pretty pathetic but it would mean a lot to me for her to just say she likes my costume.

>>8377016
You're unemployed and your first response is a shopping spree?

>>8382391
Why do you care so much about omocat

>>8382474
Because I'm salty

>>8382032
Lol you fucking noob. Take your shit out of the name field.