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I rarely see any OTT gothic coords around. Post your favorites!

>> No.8348449

The only gothic parts are the hat and the gloves

>> No.8348456

>>8348449
So this is a sweet coord?

>> No.8348472

>>8348456
I think anon means that there are a lack of gothic motifs, also the purse suggests kuro (although this post was tagged as ott gothic)

>> No.8348522

>>8348449
So what the fuck should this coordinate be? Funeral Lolita.

>> No.8348532

>>8348449
are you fucking blind?

This is OTT gothic. Please, demonstrate what you think it should look like.

>> No.8348608

This is clearly dark OTT sweet.

>> No.8348616

Clearly, this is OTT sweet/classic that happens to be black.

>> No.8348619

Clearly that's the vagina of a black woman.

>> No.8348623

JFC can we all just agree that this isn't sweet in the slightest? Sure, there are bows. Cool. Since when do bows = automatic sweet? Why exactly are bows just not allowed in gothic again? Last I checked, black rose bouquets, large black veils and headdresses and very dark/bold make up were pretty gothic elements. What classifies gothic? Every bow has to be replaced with a cross and the skirt must be plain as shit or fraying all over the place? Give me a fucking break.

It's gothic classic or just gothic, there is nothing remotely sweet about this.

>> No.8348624

>>8348532
Didn't you know, anon? The heart shaped purse and 3 bows disqualify it as goth. The moment she sets the purse down she gets +100 more goth points.

>> No.8348649

>>8348623
It's sweet.

>> No.8348654
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8348654

all right since this thread's going so well, i'm gonna post what i think of as OTT Gothic along with regular gothic to compare.

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>>8348649
>regular gothic lolita

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>>8348656
>OTT

>> No.8348659

>>8348654
It's sweet.

>> No.8348662
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>>8348658
>OTT (ventures into costumey)

>> No.8348664
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>>8348662
>regular

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>>8348664
>OTT (barely, wig and veil give it costumey look)

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>>8348666
>OTT (even more extravagant/formal, impractical as daily wear)

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8348671

>>8348668
>OTT (alice auaa fashion show, so yeah, costumey)

also misquoted initially. >>8348656 was meant to link back to >>8348654.

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>>8348671
>regular (a bit influenced by classic/sweet trends toward a more formal look as being "normal" though)

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>>8348674
>OTT (can in no way be construed as daily wear)

now post some content, gulls.

>> No.8348683

>>8348654
>>8348656
>>8348658
>>8348662
>>8348664
>>8348666
>>8348668
>>8348671
>>8348674
>>8348677

A lot of work for replying to bait. Good job.

>> No.8348693

>>8348683
Hey, at least she got the thread rolling

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>>8348683
cosplay bait threads never become productive, we might as well do something useful with our own.

i need more OTT gothic inspo. i'm going to post weird dark shit.

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>>8348707
i don't even like this one, but i'm posting it.

i'd like to see a return to the gothic roots of gothic lolita in OTT coords. too many princesses and nuns in my subfashion.

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>>8348712
goth can be so much more weird and subversive.

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>>8348716

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>>8348725

>> No.8348734
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>>8348728

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>>8348734

>> No.8348757
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>>8348739

>> No.8348758

>>8348725
This is cosplay, though

>> No.8348770

>>8348712
Am i the only one who hates it when people wear those types of tights but have regular hands? I feel like there should be gloves made that match the tights (if they haven't already been made)

>>8348758
Who is it of?

>> No.8348772

>>8348712
>>8348770
these tights need to die.

>> No.8348773
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8348773

It's not just "3 bows and a heart-shaped bag". This is the Loving Princess jsk from Angelic Pretty, and it's about as sugary sweet as sweet gets. It's not even one of their more toned down pieces, this is one of the frillier, OTT dresses.

The dress and the bag already make up 80% of the coord, and they're both sweet. The hat doesn't even look 100% gothic, it's flowers, frills and pearls. This isn't an OTT gothic outfit at all. If you like this, congrats, you like dark sweet. Please, just deal with the fact that you like dark sweet lolita and stop mislabeling things.

>> No.8348785

>>8348773
i know you're talking about OP but no, a dress does not define the style, motifs and how you wear it does. there is absolutely nothing sweet about it other than the bag. fuck, look at the damn makeup, sweet isn't worn with such drastic makeup no matter how black the dress is.

>> No.8348789

>>8348773
there is nothing sweet about the op, only the fact that it's from AP, this is just Kuro lolita, stfu

the minute we start making up shit like dark sweet, people start using bittersweet and other dumb shit

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>>8348770
toshiya from dir en grey, i think.

vkei and OTT gothic lolita have a thing or two in common.

>> No.8348799

>>8348797
THIS IS CLEARLY SWEET LOOK AT THE ANGEL WINGS!!11

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>>8348797
given the bickering in this thread i want to state the obvious: the pic in the above post is related to the second sentence, not the first.

pic related is Toshiya, and also not the outfit in question, just more inspo.>>8348797

>> No.8348813

>>8348785

>motifs
What gothic motifs? Bows? Flowers? Pearls? Lots and lots of lace? So many ruffles you could drown in them? A princess dress?

>how you wear it
With a sweet heart-shaped bag?

>makeup
Dress is black, she's gonna wash herself out if she did pink sweet makeup


>>8348789

Yes, kurololita. Forgot the word. Thank you.

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>>8348799
anon pls

>also lol at that pitfat, wtf Mana-sama?

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>>8348813
Even if it wasn't gothic it's closer to classic anyways so I don't get why you're arguing. The outfit is obviously styled in a dramatic and "dark" way, regardless of it being princessy. Also, about the makeup, if you look at any other all black sweet lolita outfit you'd know how wrong you are. Dramatic makeup like that is not meant for sweet and there are plenty of ways to do your makeup in a brighter natural way without washing out to black.


It honestly sounds like you don't really know anything about the styles, especially since you're trying to use kuro as a justification, it just means black, it doesn't make it sweet at all.

>> No.8348833

>>8348813
this is how stupid you sound >>8348624

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>>8348818

>> No.8348848

>>8348846
kawaii sweet~~~

>> No.8348869

>>8348828
>>8348833

I don't get it. Why is it so important that this outfit is gothic to you? Why are you so invested in this that it must be gothic?

>>8348828

Girl, you just admitted it might not be gothic when you were arguing it is one post ago. Whereas I not only identified the exact dress and brand, I also pointed out you don't have any actual arguments for it being gothic. Who do you think sounds like a noob who doesn't know anything about the styles?

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>>8348623
cgl is obsessed with this overclassifying styles bullshit right now, don't even bother. It's like you can't post any kind of borderline coords without every detail down to the size and number of bows fitting into one distinct little style box.

>in b4 newfag

>>8348757
And yet, arguing that OP isn't gothic, you post this as gothic? Come on now.

>>8348785
+1

>contributing since thread is already derailed

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>>8348904
>>>8348757 (You) #
>And yet, arguing that OP isn't gothic, you post this as gothic? Come on now.
i have not been arguing, you are mistaken. have not even given opinion on OP.

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>>8349215
lol @ copying the (You)

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>>8349219

>> No.8349223

>>8348472
Exactly

>> No.8349225
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>>8349220
hard to tell where the line is drawn between OTT gothic, costumey gothic, and regular gothic coords. if anyone has opinions on where the dividing lines might be please share.

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8349233

OP here. Jesus fucking Christ, y'all need to shut the fuck up already. Pic related for those fucks who derailed the thread.

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Anyway...

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>>8349237

>> No.8349240

>>8349237
I wish people would see gothic sweet is a substyle

This is obviously gothic sweet

>mad

>> No.8349245

>>8348757
Witch hats are like the epitome of OTT goth to me. They're so perfect.

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>>8349225
if anyone has full coord pic of this, please share!

>>8349240
do you have examples of OTT goth done right?

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>>8349240

Same. I don't see why wearing one substyle means you need to declare war on the other. If gothic-classic can exist, why not sweet-gothic?

>> No.8349251

>>8348449
This feels so baity to me. I black heart purse doesn't make this sweet in any way. You probably think too much pink of any shade in classic makes it sweet.

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>>8349239

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>>8349248

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>>8349263

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>>8349267

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>>8349271

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>>8349274

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>>8349276
wish this coord had nice long sleeves or something, her bare arms throw it off for me.

>> No.8349297

>>8349249

This is exactly what I mean, classic sweet is a thing and with the styles and prints brands like ap are releasing the past year or two I just can't see it in the same tier as "honey cake sweet".
Even guilty melting sweets town from aatp wouldn't be sweet enough for some girls.

There are many nice coord style mixes I've seen. Enough that I am dead set that gothic sweet is a current trend.

(Your pic is a great example)

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>> No.8349311

>>8349301
I don't understand why this girls coords are so popular. I don't think they are that great and pretty tacky tbh.

>> No.8349320

I'm having such a hard time grasping the concept of sweet-gothic. If there is gothic motifs in a black sweet coord it is not sweet anymore. I'm not even sure what I am saying.

>> No.8349322

>>8349311
Because edgy desu

>> No.8349323

>>8349301
ditch the skeleton tights. im jealous of that killstar backpack though

>> No.8349356

>>8349251
It males me disappointed that people can't tell that it's not gothic so they shout bait

>> No.8349358

>>8349251
You probably think too much black in sweet or classic makes it gothic.

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>>8349363
my favorit OTT gotic lolita Proud_raven

>> No.8349367

>>8349364
That looks like shit

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>>8349364
(brown Sach because she won the Angelic Pretty "best coord" at the tea party in Finland a few seconds before) Yes I am a fangirl.

>> No.8349371

Maybe 10% of this is gothic at best

>> No.8349372

>>8349356
>>8349358
lol okay samefag. take the autism elsewhere.

>> No.8349373

>>8349372
No, I only posted once in this thread. Bit if that's what you need to tell yourself to make you feel better about your ignorance

>> No.8349386

>>8348532
It's sweet you fucking newfag.

>> No.8349394

>>8349372

Ok, we'll go if you take your ita elsewhere.

>> No.8349397

>>8348803
I lol so hard when people bring up diru from so long ago.

vkei style was/is shit, please stop using it to back up your arguments

>> No.8349403

>>8349386
>please bite my bait plz
>kuro is totally sweet lolita gaiz

What do you think is more unusual for OTT gothic headgear? I like horns, bonnets, witch hats, and veils, but I see them a lot. If anyone has something outside those I'd love to see them, maybe some abstract pieces.

>> No.8349405

>>8349403
Kuro can be anything from sweet to gothic. Shiro can be anything from sweet to gothic. It's just a damn color.

>> No.8349411

>>8349405
That was my point exactly? Kuro lolita is just black in lolita, therefore it's not sweet either. Stop fucking derailing. I'm pretty sure black works with gothic just fine, last anyone checked.

>did u kno classic can wear black too

>> No.8349417

>>8349411
You seem to think you're talking to just the one person when it's multiple. You're personally saying the opposite of what's true, often people wearing sweet or classic are mistaken for wearing gothic just because of the colour. Not sure why the other person brought up kurp as it's. a theme if anything, not a substyle. But this thread was doomed to start with as most pictures are sweet or classic, with the OP pic hardly being gothic.

>> No.8349418

>>8349403
>>8349411

I thought the point was that just because it's kuro doesn't mean it's not sweet.

>> No.8349425

>>8349417
I think you think all the anons disagreeing with you are me too when they're not. idk I actually agree not everything is totally 100% OTT gothic here, but I think it's a bit harder to find than something like OTT sweet. I'd call the opening pic kuro with an unfortunate sweet bag, but that's just me.

Basically, I think almost all gothic lolitas wear black so kuro can be a good template to build upon for inspiration. I think as long as it doesn't skirt too sweet or too classic OTT it's okay to have some ambiguous kuro in a gothic thread. It's the same as having a little bit of ambiguous shiro lolita in a sweet or classic thread.

>> No.8349438

>>8349411
But your point is wrong.
>Kuro lolita is just black in lolita, therefore it's not sweet either.
There is no "therefore" here. It being Kuro does not imply it's not sweet.

>> No.8349549

>>8348869
>calling anon out for being invested
>is just as invested
fuck the eternal summer.

also i'm pretty sure the noob is you because you're the only one who's saying this.

>> No.8349553

>>8349438
it doesn't imply it is either.

>> No.8349569

>>8348668
damn, i'd completely forgotten about this dress, the details are amazing. thanks anon

>> No.8349585

This thread is like looking at the color blue and everyone telling me it's fucking red.

>> No.8349599

>>8349425
guys it's not gothic and definately not sweet either. it's dark hime.

>> No.8349600

>>8349220
I want those fucking horns

>> No.8349623

>>8349553
Which no one claimed anon.

>> No.8349643

>>8349600
You can get them super cheap online, they're Halloween store horns but re-painted. They're used a lot by homestuck cosplayers, personally i'm sick of seeing them as they are, but they are a good base.

Looked up "Halloween devil horns" on ebay and got listings of them, here's one with free shipping.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Devil-Demon-Horns-with-Teeth-Halloween-Costume-Accessory-/171725987286?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item27fbaa9dd6

>> No.8349665

>>8349643
>Shipping $52.99
>Sighs from Europe.

I wish I could find some of these for a decent price in the EU.

>> No.8349686

https://www.etsy.com/shop/greenegoth?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=ram%20horns&ref=sr_gallery_2 This etsy seller does some cool paint jobs on those horns

>> No.8349704

>>8349665
Ah crap, i'm sorry, there are more places on the internet that you can get them, but they are sold in stores around Halloween time so hopefully you can find some around you?

>> No.8349750

Any pictures of more cute coords? And no I'm not talking about SWEAT-GAFFIK or old school but more like empire waists, chunky shoes, you know a bit child like?

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>>8349851

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>>8349750
Like this?

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>>8349860
i think anon means cute AND OTT.

>> No.8349913

>>8349860
Yes! Exactly like this. I need inspiration for everyday wear

>> No.8349914

>>8349913
that would be better in its own thread, don't confuse this one any further please.

>> No.8349916

>>8349914
This thread is already a shithole

>> No.8349919

>>8349914
about to start one

>> No.8349924

>>8349860
Why does this classify as gothic? Just because of the two tiny crosses?
Legit question, this thread is fucking up my notions of anything gothic

>> No.8349932

>>8349924
Because of the cut of the dress and the accessories

>> No.8349935

>>8349924
Also it has that moitie feel to it

>> No.8349963

>>8349924
It's a nun style dress with crosses. You could maybe argue for sweet but nah.

>> No.8350032

>>8349932
the platforms are also a big part.

makeup and hair would seal the deal, too.

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>>8348770
It's of Toshiya from Dir en Grey, in his look from the Garden PV.

>> No.8350716

>>8349924
The main difference between gothic and other styles is motifs and cuts.
generally:
coffins, skulls, crosses = gothic
fruit, candy, hearts = sweet
books, florals, violins = classic

>> No.8351123

>>8349280
I like it, it looks ghostly

>> No.8351582

>>8349280
I hate how this looks like a pic that has been stretched. Is it?

>> No.8351692

>>8349924
For me it's the neck in particular, those high-neck nun collars always read gothic

>> No.8351901

>>8351582
Nah, it's because of the veil covering her shoulders and the shoes

>> No.8351904

>>8351582
>>8351901
Pretty sure it's in the wrong aspect ratio.

>> No.8353189

anyone got any gothic coords that feature white? (or are completely white)

>> No.8353212
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8353212

>>8353189
the skirt is sweet and makeup isn't gothic but it's as close to OTT gothic in white that i can find.

>> No.8353224

>>8353212
What skirt? She's wearing a OP

>> No.8353307

>>8349233
I really want to hear the story behind this picture. Did she assault somebody with her umbrella or what?

>> No.8355948

>>8349569
I own it and it's unbelievable, one of my roses was missing when I got it though :(

>> No.8355974

>>8349643
whoa, thanks anon!!

>> No.8355983

>>8349215
IS THERE A FUNERAL GOING ON ACROSS THE STREET FROM HER?

>> No.8356505

>>8355983
No, if you look they appear to be in a park. Looks like a picnic event, unless it's customary in your neck of the woods to set up tents/gazebos for funerals?

>> No.8356847

>>8349239
> literal gothic

>> No.8357595

>>8349549

I already went from "dark sweet" to kurololita when reminded of how special snowflake bittersweet lolita sounds. I'm happy to change again if someone can show me the logic to it.

Anon, on the other hand
>can't point out motif or style that makes it gothic
>bases arguments solely around "Many bows on a sweet brand dress with a sweet motif bag does not make this dress not gothic"

I just want to hear their reasoning. Other than sweet motifs not making an outfit not gothic.

And, my entire convo in this thread begins from posting the AP jsk. Everybody else saying it's not gothic is not me.