/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Not really. And people need to stop posting more of them.

>>8220604
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>>8220571
The funniest thing about them are the people who don't understand the blatant joke and reply all uppity and bitchily

The thread about how Ero and Maid lolita should be more common, totally took me in for a second there. That was a good one.

I feel like this one is a reference to Tiferet lol

"I thought maybe you guys could help me with this. I really want Cat's Tea Party (non replica) to wear with my Necomimi ears but my bust is only 300cm so I'm not sure it will fit also I'm afraid of paying too much for it. Is $25 shipped too much? If so what would be reasonable? Also what are you guys dream dresses?"

I was thinking I might make a post promoting my commissions business that I'm totally not desperate about, Golden Outsides? Do you gulls think people will take me seriously even on April Fool's Day? I know I can make people really beautiful quality lolita clothes for a fraction of the price, even the people looking for brand!

>>8220656
If you do this I will love you forever

>>8220638
But is this for real?

>>8220662
I had to make a dummy account, but if one of you adds me to rufflechat I'll do it.

>>8220669
I think only mods can add people to the group

>>8220679
Well shit. It used to be that anyone could add people. Do they have a policy against dummy accounts?

>>8220604
I'm with you on that one. It got old way too fast.

>>8220684
go be a party pooper somewhere else

>>8220689
Nah, man. I'm sick of my feed being drowned with so many posts that are all so eye-roll worthy. I laughed at this morning at 6am, and still at 8am, but now it's 2pm and I can't deal with it anymore.

>inb4 wahhhh hide the posts
Just stop making them, please. There's nothing funny or original about any of them anymore.

>>8220716
It's april fools, just deal with it. Unfollow rufflechat, lolita updates, etc, and refollow them tomorrow. Problem solved, no need to be a whiny bitch

>>8220720
Sounds liek someone was working on a totally hilarious post!!!!

>>8220725
Sounds like someone is making shit up because they realize how ridiculously salty they are being about a holiday called April Fools

>>8220729
Making what up, though? There wasn't anything there to even be made up.

>>8220729
>>8220731
can both of you guys cut it out before the thread is derailed with your pointless bickering. we get it, some people like the posts and some people dont. if you dont want to talk about the joke posts then why dont you actually contribute, like start a new topic in the thread.

>>8220741
GOD, MOM.

None of those posts/fake events made me laugh, I was only angry at them. I think I'm starting to grow old and bitter and hate April Fools, and the 4chan joke is not helping

>>8220775
The worst part is that no one can even change the subject here because it's literally all that's going on right now.

>>8220775
I'm a grumpy old lady too but that's why I just stay off FB for the day. It's honestly not that hard.

Did anyone get a cap of that SJW kate kato making some kind of melodramatic apology for ~causing offense~ (or something) because she read the threads here where the general opinion is that she's awful?

>>8221313
Are you April fooling right now? She seems way too up her self important ass to actually apologise for anything.

>>8221325
No, I swear. I saw the post on my feed but my browser crashed and she deleted it from the group

>>8221325
Not that anon, but nope. It happened. She apologized generally, to one person in particular, and then said she wouldn't get involved in debates anymore. She also changed her fb name a bit.

It's all fun and games until the Tumblrinas walk in.

>>8221465
-flips hair-

>>8221465
legit cannot tell if this is a joke or not
her profile is barren of real info

>>8221483
Right? Except for giving the St. Paul police a 1 star review. What the fuck? Is this like a SJW's secret account or something?

>>8221483
I've seen her post before

I...is wonderfuck joking about Misty Sky? $2000? Surely not...

>>8221557
a brand muumuu for 2k im crying

>>8221557
Screen caps incase she bawwleets.

>>8221586
I have the whole thread, but this was her shitty reasoning. Jesus Christ she's a delusional bitch.

>>8221586
>Not open to paynent plans
Who the fuck has 2k just laying around? I mean, i can understand not wanting payment plans for $400 and under, but $2000?

>>8221596

>>8221557
April Fools?

>>8221596
I just came to see if someone posted this. Is she always like this? I've seen her at meets once or twice and she looked nice enough but gulls make her sound horrible..... not that this is helping her any.

>>8221607
Yes she is.

>>8221601
nooooope

>>8221610
Deets? (Unless this is just super vendetta)

>>8221601
The sad part is, it might be? But she's always such a humorless bitch that it's hard to tell.

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>>8221599
I really want to believe this is real because WF is such a colossal cunt

>>8221613
Not who you replied to, but wonderfinch is known for being an abrasive bitch, at least online. It's not vendetta.

>>8221613
How fucking new are you?

>>8221607
Honestly, she's really not that bad. She's always been very nice to me and we've never had any problems. However, it's easy to see why the whole damn internet has it out for her. She's really harsh online and doesn't step away from it because she likes being seen that way. In person, she's pretty sweet, but she tries to come off as a bitch online and she does it really well, and I don't get why she wants to do that so much.

>>8221613
No vendetta. I even use to really like her. She's just really snobby and self righteous. She's the definition of a tumblr sjw. She's talks about equality and all that shit, but she's no better then the people she bitches about. Ive heard her talk the meanest shit about people who seriously wanted to join the comm, snubbed them, and scared them off from perusing the fashion.

Ngl she gets shit on here a lot for stupid shit, and some of the hate is really unwarranted, but she's a pretty shitty person.

>>8221624
>Honestly, she's really not that bad.

To be frank, I don't see why people think that just because someone is only a heinous bitch online, that they're not "that bad." Her behavior online is still her behavior. It'd be like saying someone wasn't a bitch because they're only a nasty shit to people at their college dorm, but not in their home town. The reason she's probably not a bitch in person is less because she's really "sweet" and more that she knows she can't get away with acting like that to people in person.

>>8221625
What gets me about her SJW status is that she not only coveted the Axis-inspired Meta series as one of her dream wants, but purchased it.

And no, I don't care about the Meta series being inspired by Axis WWII uniforms. But someone like wonderfinch, who at one point went on a crusade about "brolita" being an offensive slur, sure as hell shouldn't be so hypocritical.

>>8221599
which one of you twats outed cgl?

lol i state dress is worth 800 and set is 100. her reply "its cute that you think that" lmao

Outing myself before I get posted. Yeah, I'm the moron that just called her a cunt. Probably banned but oh well. It was cathartic and I needed it.

>>8221636
Well whoops. Guess I was too late.
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>>8221640
i want to add you on facebook because youre sassy as fuck

>>8221626
Other than being ultra blunt and humor-less online she isn't bad there either, though. It's not like she's running a full-out bitchy hate train like Dominique did, she's just got verbal resting bitch face. I feel like the bulk of the hate she gets from strangers online is really unwarranted, but I honestly don't care.

>>8221622
Kind of new? I see it talked about in passing but I just connected her face to the name after seeing her at a few events. I figured I might as well finally ask?

>>8221640
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>>8221644
>hoping this is sarcasm
Dude, look, I am far from fucking "sassy". I just felt like starting some shit, that's all.
>inb4 "lol I trolld her!!2"
See above.

Just gonna throw it out there that this whole thing is so refreshing because thank fucking God all that goddamn April Fool's Day shit is fucking done with.

>>8221599
Can someone cap and post if the post gets deleted and discussion moves to Rufflechat?

>not in the Rufflechat group because fuck that noise

oh look we all got warnings

>>8221664
Yeah.
To be fair, this was hilarious after all the "hurr hurr I'm jist foolin'!" business today.

Shit got real.
Real awesome.

I will join Rufflechat is talking about this gets moved there.

>>8221674
It'll probably be in RC: Uncensored. Rufflechat doesnt allow talking about individual people

>>8221645
>said she wanted to kick someone's teeth in for being annoying during a mod dispute
>enabled a scammer by telling people that she had "sources" which proved that said scammer wasn't actually scamming... said "sources" were the scammer herself
>refuses to accept responsibility for her actions any time said actions effect other people, such as the above scammer incident
>has tantrums whenever her power as admin is called into question
>has given people mod warnings for things she does 2x worse (blunt comments, rude comments, etc)
>blames EGL for her apparent poor physical health any time people questioned her bad decisions or called out her bad behavior ("I fainted in the post office [when she got called out for saying she wanted to kick someone's teeth in] IS THAT WHAT YOU GUYS WANT AGAIN ;___;")

>>8221599
Woah. That bitch is in my com. Freaky a shit.

>>8220571
Wow that was a great April Fool's joke you made OP!

>>8221586
>>8221596
>>8221599
She can have her delusional pricing, but bitches in that thread were getting out hand. There's seriously no reason to call someone a cunt or being a bitch just because you think someone's pricing is outrageous. For realz, keep it classy

>>8221732
What were people saying in the comments? I'm not in the group.

>>8221738
I'll post caps, one sec

>>8221732
No kidding... Nothing like having a self-righteous internet tantrum on a goddamn sales post. Disagree? Cool, but goddamn the comments were malicious and embarrassing to read. Great job having your name attached to all that as well. CGL whining is one thing, but that was something else.

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>>8221745
Sorry, apparently my phone caps are huge o.O

>>8221369
Good her and Emma are both retarded and only worse together.

>>8221586
I hate Wonderfuck just as much as everyone else here, but the girls commenting on her post were so embarassing. The whole "popcorn" thing is so stupid and autistic.
And to the seagull who mentioned /cgl/, you look like a fucking idiot. Quit trying to "save" people from dropping $2k on a dress, nobody is going to commit to buy something at such a high price without looking into it first. Let the dumb bitch try to sell it at a high price, she'll learn when it doesn't sell.

>>8221758
I agree. Laugh at her all you want, but no reason to be such a bitch.

>>8220881
No one bothers me on Facebook because I don't have groups set to notify me when someone posts. But the stupid popup pin on 4chan, and Coppy on goddamn Tumblr has my bloomers in a wad.

>>8221640
Post caps you brave anon

>>8221764
Caps were already posted

>>8221752
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>>8221760
Sorry, but we're bitches by nature. Fuck this ho and her scalping ass. We just havin fun.

>>8221745
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>>8221752
Jesus, you girls are making Wonderbitch actually look reasonable. All this is so extra and malicious for no reason. Yeah 2k is fucking ridiculous, but she'll realise that on her own when no one commits to buying her shit.

>>8221769
When did having fun = being tacky?

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>>8221769
I don't know why you're acting like you speak for all of /cgl/. That shit was EMBARRASSING.

>>8221769
>wonderfinch is a cunt sure
>but yall had to jump into the shitpile with your edgy autistic bullshit
pls go

>>8221771
>All this is so extra and malicious for no reason

Do you know where you are? Are you lost?
Are you aware of what cgl is mainly comprised of?

>>8221775
I never was part of it so calm your tits. This is the funniest thing to happen in a while, let it go.

>>8221781
CGL=/=LSE/FB

>>8221781
Hey, I may be here but I'm not a bitch. Cranky and salty, sure, but we aren't all raging cunts here.

I can't even look at those caps because the secondhand embarrassment from the reaction/comments here is too great, oh god

Seriously, keep your bitch personas on 4chan. Not that hard.

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>>8221557
>that girl asking about buying it
>i almost hope she does buy it

>>8221586
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>>8221599
For her being in Lolita for 10years or whatever,
She sure is shitty when it comes to the market.
I recently ran into a pretty aggravating experience with her.
Which basically ended up with her backing out of a trade.

I had not known 'who' she was prior
and I almost sent her a polite message about keeping in mind a certain professionalism(or whatever, I'm tired).

>>8220571

>>8221818

You guys, it happened. An actual ita posted to CoF today of all days lol

>>8221818
Omg that's glorious

>>8221821
>whole wardrobe was worth less than a single dress

It's only worth less if that dress actually sells. Otherwise that dress is just a pretty scrap of fabric with a burando tag.

>>8221840
well, seems there is someone interested

>>8221822
Pic?

>>8221842
How the hell can someone be interested when it's $2,000 and the seller won't take payment plans? How the everlovingfuck do you just happen to have that much money on hand to drop on clothes? It just blows my mind.

>>8221854
did you even read the comments on the post? there's someone considering buying it there.

>>8221854
maybe they and/or their husband are rich. it's their money to do what they want with it anyway. people wouldn't be complaining if the dress was cat's tea party or one of the other dresses actually around that value. if she sells it, good for her on being a scalper, but at least the buyer would be happy. /shrug

>>8221854
Some people in this hobby are way too delusional... I almost feel bad for them. Almost.

>>8221854
maybe they have a good job

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>>8221873
Part of me feels bad she didn't know about the April Fool's pranks.... the other part of me really really finds it funny.

why were a bunch of the april fool's posts deleted from RC?

>>8221873
God, I saw that on Facebook and just cringed all the way through it.

I still want her to turn around and go "April Fools!" but I know it's not coming...

>>8221878
The mods decided to delete them after April 1st so that they don't clog up the group. They just got deleted early.

>>8221821
>>8221818
>Dissing ero is an easy way to show you got into lolita in 2011

So wait... not liking a particular style means you must have gotten into lolita in 2011? What?

I wonder what dressing like this despite being into the fashion for supposedly 10+ years shows.

>>8221821
>>8221818
Oh my god she is absolutely insufferable. If I had a penny for every time she made a reference to how long she's been in lolita and is therefore more knowledgeable than everyone I'd be able to buy her $2000 OP lol

Also she has no room to be talking shit when she coords like THIS >>8221884

where did the dissing ero thread come from? I wanna see the original thread if its still around

>>8221927
I am guessing from one of the now deleted april fool's thread. Someone made a joke thread about making an ero coord and used an anime figure as an example of what they wanted to look like, and people were responding with ridiculous suggestions. WF showed up and spread her salt throughout the thread.

>>8221879
She probably saw all the newb looking coords and felt it was finally safe to post today. COMPLETELY forgetting that it's april fools i guess. she almost got her ass handed to her. Brave one indeed.

>>8221879
>>8221938
With her attitude and lack of any ittelligence that one isn't going to make it /cgl/

>>8221821
>>8221818
haha this is hilarious because I dont know who I hate more

>>8221597
If you don't have that amount of money on hand at any time you should probably not be spending it on a Japanese plastic pregnancy dress.

>>8221992
>kek

>>8221821
>>8221818
Adi Torres vs WF

Radical SJW bitch vs Radical SJW bitch

it's beautiful

>>8222683
I would love to see this happen IRL though. Too bad they're too absorbed in their SJW bubbles to actually step away from their computers first.

>tfw that weird Penny lady keeps pushing her commissions
>selling patterns on Pintucks and Lace
>no idea how much international shipping actually costs
>no shipping scale

yea no.

>>8221818
what dress is she selling for 2k? Even IG wasn't going for that much during its hype

>>8221818
Honestly, seeing any use "honey buns" at another person online in an attempt to be oh so sassy cute makes me seethe with rage. I don't care who it's directed at, that shit is so disrespectful and makes the person saying it look like such a goddamn edgy try-hard.

>>8222720
Misty sky OP, I think. I don't care for sweet so I might be wrong on the name.

>>8222724
I only like the use of "honey buns" if it is following the phrase "let's go kick some..."

>>8222730
Read the whole thread, yep its Misty Sky, thanks anon, I should have scrolled up and read more before stupidly commenting but I got such a shock when I saw $2000 that I failed.

>>8222698
Penny runs a fucking business and she doesn't own a scale? God what a joke she is

>>8222742
I'm honestly not surprised. Wasn't she also the one who never finished the current commissions while hawking about her business in every group possible?

Her sewing ability is amateurish too.

>>8221873
I gotta be honest, I feel sorry for this girl. Talk about a eruption of a ton of noobie mistakes all at once mixed with bad timing. It's funny, don't get me wrong, but ouch.

>>8221884
>says twintails are sooooo three years ago and out of style
>if you don't like this ancient substyle, you're clearly a noob lol lol
Jesus christ wf

>>8221873
Oh god, that "Angel Buckley" chick is a disaster. She wants to give advice when she doesn't even know how to put a coord together herself.

>>8222949

WF posted screen caps of the Misty Sky OP selling for 180,000 yen on one of the Japanese auction sites and one of the accessories selling for $200 somewhere else.

I don't care about 95% of AP's prints so I have no idea what the going rate is. I thought her price was just base scalping but exactly what IS the going rate for Misty Sky in black then?

Given someone is trying to sell Cat's Tea Party for $1800 as well as the going rate for Puppet Circus, the Misty Sky thing was only slightly more ridiculous.

>>8221703
NorCal newfag detected.

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>>8221748
This. Keep /cgl/ on /cgl/. Acting like a catty teenage bitch in public is just plain stupid.

I get the feeling that her posting on P&L is only going to start increasing...jfc I can't even take this as a joke anymore.

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>>8223758
>Lolitable

I quit.

>>8223761
Honestly I prefer that to 'loliable' which has always grated my nerves for some reason.

>>8223763
They all annoy me, but the fact she couldn't just use the common annoying one everyone else uses and had to clusterfuckify her own irks me.

And it's Raleigh.

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>>8223771
this is where shit gets interesting. She hasn't posted anything else yet but we'll see how it goes.

>>8223773
Someone be "that guy" call her out.

>>8223767
Right I getcha. That's so Raleigh, though. Always playing by her own rules...
>>8223768
She kind of reminds me of a Saturday Night Live character.
>would be the *zazzle* that you need
Are we sure she's not an amazing troll?

>>8223730
I found an egl sales post recently for the OP set for $1000 that sold. That to me is slightly more reasonable of a price

>>8223768
>Light in the Box
Is this a Frances-tier old lady lolcow? I want to believe

>>8223768
...has anyone told her that Light In the Box is Milanoo?

>>8223790
oh, whoops, it's in the next cap. I like how she ignores that completely.

>>8223778
I did it...sort of. blocking my name out because random internet people.

>>8223773
Does Raleigh even wear lolita? Isn't she like, a retired fashion designer that just spams hilariously outdated patterns? Or does she actually post outfit shots and attend meets and such?

>>8223797
Also, I just realized I didn't block out the other names. Sorry.

>>8223801
fixed

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>>8223797
You the best!
>keep it coming, pls

>>8223818
Will do!

>>8223798
Can someone please answer this? I would look myself but I don't use facebook. I need to know the engima that is Raleigh.

>>8221732
Agreed. I get that a lot of people disagree with decisions she's made as a mod or the harsh tone she uses online, but to me that in no way warranted the bizarre/inappropriate responses she got. Yeah, it's crazy expensive and at the highest end of the market value. Whatever, happens all the damn time, and I can get being reluctant to part with something you love unless you can get the maximum for it. It may come across as unreasonable, but that's fine, then it just won't sell. I really don't think she would have gotten that kind of response if it weren't for it being April Fool's Day, and because she's just generally a target of gossip because of her other roles.

>>8223861
No. She's very strange, and definitely not a lolita.

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>>8223798
Raleigh is not a lolita, she is a batshit crazy old lady obsessed with patterns who claims to have gone to some fashion school in paris

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>>8223872
I doubt she's gone to a fashion school of any sort given her strange advice.

>>8223872
How the hell was she allowed in the group then?

>>8221313
I don't have any idea why she felt like everyone was picking on her, it is always Emma that people complain about on here, and her name was only mentioned once.

Now that I remember it, did anyone get caps of the comment Emma wrote on Ks apology post? It got deleted before I could see it, but I know it must have been really shitty based on one of the mods responses to it.

>>8223884
Yea I am pretty sure she lives this weird fantasy life online where she pretends to be like this old wise lolita fashion sage, hence the fake name

>>8223885
I don't think P&L has a screening process, does it? Last I checked it was an open group

>>8223872
Raleigh is a batshit crazy, self-medicating woman in her mid-40s who takes on various aliases of things she's only tangentially related to, likes talking about lawsuits, and harassing her neighbors online. She's not a lolita, she's just obsessed with the idea of it.

>>8223901
>old wise lolita fashion sage
This. She was going off about costuming and SCA groups a while ago too. Even thought she knew more than actual SCA members.
That was a riot.

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>>8222966
I just want to say, I'm the one that added her to all the fb lolita groups, because I knew it was gonna be funny.

>mfw everything she says and posts is fucking hilariously awful

>>8224053
That is rude, anon.


In other news, Raleigh jfc

>>8224061
>surrounded by giant blueberries

what the fuck

>>8224061
>bathmouth
>surrounded by giant blueberries

uhhhh

>>8224084
>>8224076
She's referencing the movie. Did you watch it?

>>8224086
Yes. But she still makes no sense.

>>8224094
is it like a weight joke, or

cause people are chewing gum that they are not supposed to

orrrr

>>8224096
>>8224094
I think her bad trait is that she's fame hungry and obnoxious.

>>8224102
whose bad trait?
what?
... what?

>>8224102
The character in the movie she was referencing.

>>8224111
go home anon you're drunk

>>8224061
Daaaaammn I thought she got run the fuck out

>>8224215
Nope. She did get one mod warning though.

>>8221752
> "cgl is right"
> dragging cgl mannerisms onto facebook
fucking embarrassing.

>>8221597
Most people have at least 2k on hand, as long as they're not living paycheck to paycheck. Hell I'm an unemployed uni student and I always have 2-3k play money laying around, as do most of my friends.

>>8224061
Because everyone loves it when their mother comes in and lectures them. She sounds exactly like a 40 year old woman hysterically losing her shit at her kids
>oh wait

>>8224323
Having 2k in your bank is vastly different from being able to spend that much on one thing at any moment. As a uni student with no income, you wouldnt really feel like you can afford that kind of thing, even though you technically can.

>>8224401
This
You have it there for a reason, and that reason is not buying dresses online

>>8224061
Here are some other highlights. Thus ends the saga

>>8224401
Exactly! Good forbid you or your cat/Dog/whatever get sick or are in an accident and you don't have anything to fall back on because you just dropped 2k all at one time on a stupid ass dress.

>>8223730
I can't stand WonderFuck as much of the rest of you guys but I have seen Mosty Sky go for a lot More on Japanese auction sites.

>>8224470
Wonder where she'll appear next.

>>8224323
What the fuck? Do you have no living/travel expenses? I know how to be frugal but if I have circa £500 in my savings at any one time, I'm doing well. My commute alone is like £200 a month

>>8224612
I guess it depends how much you make? I make about $7k a month. Rent+food+bills+gas are 2.5k a month. (Sometimes more if it's really hot/cold because utility costs go up) That leaves me about 4.5k extra a month. I usually put 75% of my extra money in savings/investments. So I have approximately 1.2k in expendable income monthly. If I cut down my savings I could definitely drop 2k on a dress and be fine if I didn't want to do anything else for the rest of the month lol.

>>8224602
I hope she does. She always causes delicious drama. I want to see something she's made really really badly. (I know she probably hasn't made anything, but I can dream)

>>8224618
Was this just an excuse to brag about how much you make? I think you know most college students aren't making 7k a month.

>>8224651
Woops, just saw the other person is apparently unemployed. I apologise for the salt.

>>8224602
A small part of me hopes she gets into the Lolita Sewing Collective bc I know it's full of seagulls who have no qualms about shutting her ass down

>>8224618
I have ~2K right now, and I am also an unemployed college student and I actually need that money to live. I would be batshit insane to spend that money on a dress, and so would this anon >>8224323

>>8224656
they made Lolita Collective as a no-Raleigh zone.

>>8224053
Really?? God, I hate this girl so much. She briefly went to the same college as me.

>>8224680
Someone should make a group purely for Raleigh to run amok and just laugh at her while egging her on. She's lolcow material and it saddens me each time she's stopped prematurely.

>>8224724
I am going to join all of the other groups she is in and see what she gets up to there.

>>8224724
Srs. She's a great timekiller. I love watching her antics when I'm bored.

>>8224656
She won't, unless she changes her name. Raleigh, Penny, and Nancy are all on our blacklist already.

Though I do admit the drama could be fun...

>>8224839
I really appreciate having a lolcow-free zone for actual sewing discussion. Maybe we can encourage the crazy ones to stay in P&L and provide entertainment while we keep the Collective 'secret' to ensure quality posts.

>That Raleigh thread in RC:Uncen

>>8225131
caps?

>>8225174
Just freaking join RC:uncensored. you don't have to participate, I dont. Just read shit.

Thank god it didn't go full SJW. Need more Raleigh drama.

From CoF. She's says she new to lolita and went for old school and she looks nice but I'm posting this pic here because OMFG the pug! Eeeeeee!

>>8225202
It would of looked better with more white like white socks and a white headdress. Not bad though.
Not a fan of pugs though.

>>8225213
Heartless bastard.

>>8225202
>>8225213
I'm not a fan of pugs, either, but I have to admit that picture is amazing. The pug's face is great.

>>8225241
I fucking haaate pugs but that one is win.

>>8225202
Seeing pictures of pugs make me sad. They're fucking inbred genetic mutants and yet humans insist on breeding them because CUUUUTE. Look how his eyes are red and popping out of his head. That can't be conferrable, and their heads are so close to the ground that any dirt that gets kicked up is bound to get in them. And they have trouble breathing because their snouts are so short. Humans think their huffing, puffing, and grunting is cute, but really, they're struggling to breath. If you love pugs, don't breed them. They live their lives with all these uncomfortable condition, they just can't complain about them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ53jDVx0-g

Watch this fucking video, if it doesn't break your heart then you have no soul.

They always look so sad.

>>8225190
I was sure someone was going to jump in whinging about how racist the Avril Lavinge video is, but it was controlled.
Thank god.

>>8225295
Some people sure seemed to try. I was waiting for Emma to show up saying she's now Japanese and offended.

>>8225286
Yeah, I love Pugs, I think they are the cutest thing ever. But I would NEVER buy a pug because they are so inbred. I just feel sorry for them. Though they are cute

>>8225229
When i was I high school i knew this guy who had a black pug (un-ironically called Pugsly) and every time i saw that fucking dog he always either humped my backpack or piss on it. Our both. And i had to see this fucker 3-4 times a week for 2 years.
So i can't help but dislike them. My husband wants one but i told him it's never gonna fucking happen.

>>8225286
This so much

>>8225316
also that video made me so sad. That poor thing probably were about to faint due to the lack of oxygen it could get while breathing that heavily

>>8225286
All my dogs are adoptive mutts. I think they're cute, but I'd never support getting one.

Is it possible to get rich by 1 youtube video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YQWK3JPuxk
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>>8225286
I usually don't prefer pugs, but that poor thing. That just broke my heart.

>>8225286
Go be Peta somewhere else

>>8225302
So then she'd be Japanese-Irish-Native-???. Bugger, I've lost track.

>>8225383
Stfu and breed your mutants.

>>8225325
The pug is trying to keep his airways open by holding up his head, but he's so exhausted he passes out.

>>8225286
It's super true, though, and really upsetting. The idea of designer pets is so fucked; I have a damn mentally challenged python that I rescued because it was so inbred it got screwed over by genetics. It has the spider gene wobble so bad that it can't shed and has to assist-fed every week.

But pic related, that's what pugs used to look like and are supposed to look like, but inbreeding has isolated the shitty genes making them what they are today.

>>8225411
that looks so much better than the poor bugged eyed things i see a lot of today.

>>8225383
>>8225396
No, srsly, I've been harassed by strangers just by walking my dachshund.
I've stopped for kids to pet my dog and had people comment "Oh, it's so sad how cruel breeding dachshund are. Owning one is just encouraging this cruelty wah wah waaaah"
I kindly inform them that he was a shelter dog that I rescued ,and that I do not buy from or support breeders. I also politely inform them that they're being a cunt by offering unsolicited comments to a stranger they know nothing about.

Blame backyard breeders who don't give a shit about the health of their animals and are in it to make a quick buck. It's no actual fault of the animal in question.

>sage for OT.
>let's not let this become a thread debating mutant breed.

>>8225426
>contributes to derailment
>let's not derail!!!

>>8225302
I think she did say she is part Japanese before.

Funny thing is, she is whiter than me and still wants to call herself a poc.

>>8225439
I'm not really on FB so I get my gossip here. She's really a whitey (well..."passing" or whatever they call it)? Does she post coords?

>>8225426
Breeders aren't a problem if they're good and reputable. My country is very strict about dogs so our shelters are nearly empty and we don't have any strays, but that's why breeders are checked thoroughly. There's nothing wrong with getting a dog from a breeder, nor is there anything wrong with getting a 'bad' breed of dog such as dachshund or English bulldog so long as their papers are flawless and they're healthy, because that ensures they don't breed them with just any dog of the same breed.
I have a dachshund and Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, both fit as a fiddle and happy because I'm not an idiot or cheapass.

>>8225450
Can we get off the dogs and talk about actual bitches?

>>8225451
Sure. Emma doesn't look white to me though.

>>8225454
I haven't seen her, hence why I asked what anon >>8225439 ment.

>>8225461
I've seen her and she definitely does look mixed, which is stupid because she says she's also Irish despite not looking the part at all (not even the dark-eyed Andrew Scott/Colin Farrell kind of Irish)

>>8225465
Thanks for clarifying. I miss half the show without facebook visuals.

>>8225434
>de-salt, cunt

>>8225507
But I like my cunts freshly salted!

>sea salt, por favor

>>8225411
Yeeep. Here's a better view of their side, you can get an even better idea of just how fucked up the dogs are today.

>>8224839
Bless you for putting Penny on that list. I'm so sick of that fat cow butting in where she's not wanted.

>>8225593
Is she in an actual comm anywhere?

>>8225598
Penny is in the big SoCal comm, she's from down here. I saw her at Wondercon today (thankfully I was in cosplay so she didn't try to talk to me).

>>8225442
This is her.
Such PoC, amaze.

>>8225439
She also has a post on her fb that says she's of german heritage

>>8225668
she's also a furry apparently. I love open facebooks.

>>8225655
i dont get how there's so many people who complain about her but then I don't interact with her on a regular basis.

>>8225682
She is alright until she starts spouting about how much she hates white people and posting misinformation about racism.

Can't stand these fucking edgemasters over here. "the guide said not to so I'm gonna do it anyway!!!" like ok, have fun being ita as hell in your nasty converses. I feel bad for LGB-chan sometimes.

>>8225808
As do I. We'll just btb those converse-itas.

>>8225808
BOOM
This sounds oddly familiar. "IVE BEEN A LOLITA FOR 10 YEARS GUISE I KNOW WHAT IM DOING DERPAHERPADERP

>>8225690
She seriously has a lot of misplaced anger issues. Racism is bad, but so is being an asshole to another person for stupid reasons. Lolitas get enough shit for being weird from the outside world. We don't have to like each other, but being unnecessarily antagonistic to isn't cool.

>>8225944
Bunny ears are cute.

What makes you say she has a lot of misplaced anger?

>>8225920
>I know what I'm doing

Clearly not. You can always tell who's a newfag, either in mentality or by actually being new, because they think everything a brand puts out is automatically lolita.
>brand puts out a fucking T-shirt?
>that means I can wear my shitty five dollar Walmart shirt because they're practically the same right?

>>8225948
Not that anon, but her behaviour makes it very obvious.

>>8225655
Well she doesn't really look fully white tbh
She could pass for a Latina but afaik they're 'poc' as well to tumblr

>>8225948
Have you seen any of her posts? That RC post where she stops talking about the issue and starts just mocking the girl because she is white easily comes to mind. But overall she is very into talking about racism because she loves talking about herself and this gives her a reason to act better than people.

>>8226306
Didn't she also harass the adoptive Hawaiian girl in RC:uncensored was treated horribly as a kid because she wasn't native? Telling her she deserved it because of what whites did to the Hawaiians historically and her parents shouldn't have adopted a white girl? Or was that Kaitlyn? Probably was both knowing them.
I think the ironic part is that the adoptive girl also mentioned that she found out she was of Jewish decent. I guess in the SJW Lolita ranking system the Jews are "less oppressed" than the Hawaiians.

>>8226355
Yea, that was her. Kate probably joined in, she does everything that Emma does to get her attention/approval lol

They also don't view Jews as being white so the holocaust totally doesn't count (I asked).

>>8226219
There are a lot of assholes in the southwest often get pretty racist towards anyone that looks remotely Latino.

Tan skin and overweight? Probably an illegal immigrant living on food stamps. Illegals are so lazy and stupid.

Tan skin and dressed sloppy at Walmart because you ran out of ___ on your day off? Fucking lazy wetbacks can barely function enough to put real clothes on.

Can't quiet your kid down in a restaurant? Another slutty Mexican welfare mom popping out kids so she can collect more welfare money and buy more weed.

These are all things I've actually heard people say in southern California.

I know it's cool to make fun of dumb kids on Tumblr but racism against Hispanics and anyone who even remotely resembles a Latino is a serious problem.

>>8226538
I didn't know she lived in the southwest

>>8225202
new reaction image, thanks

>>8226538
Not saying it isn't, just saying she technically is 'poc' since a lot of people here said she could pass as white.
I'll admit I'm a wee bit butthurt though, since she said she's part Irish and then proceeded to speak for all Irish people and say that 'they never experienced any discrimination/racism'.

This isn't the first time this girl has posted about committing fraud, she's sketchy as fuck

>>8226583
>She says Irish people never experienced any discrimination/racism
>mfw

Was she just not taught anything in grade school? Fucking hell.

>>8226597
bodyline items taking a little too long to arrive?
commit fraud and risk going to prison for a few years!
jesus this girl is a next level retard.

>>8222949
Is she a little person?

>>8226597
What the fuck? Is this in RC? I am gonna block this girl so I never sell to her or buy from her

>>8225920
Oh you missed the best part
>Same ita btw

>>8226597
She's so annoying, no one likes/responds to her comments in threads, yet she still feels the need to keep commenting with her long ass opinions.
We know about all your shit girl, you're not welcome here.

>>8226622

>>8226597
you forgot the part where she suggests lying to your bank
avoid buying stuff from her, and just block her honestly. she was banned from her comm, and is known for not being a pleasant person

>>8226575
>>8226583
I don't know where that dip lives, I just felt the need to address it since >>8226219 sounded like they were complaining that Tumblr considers Hispanics/Latinos PoC because "muh Tumblrinas."

>>8226644
nice racism there ahaha

>>8226644
She deleted that after getting called out for racist stereotypes by guidebook anon, didn't she?

>>8226949
lgb-chan here. yeah she deleted it but she is still bitching about "the rules!!!" and all that on her blog. she actually deleted it because someone else reblogged it and called her a racist and then she reblogged THAT post and apologized. i tried contacting her via PM as well but she seems to want to ignore me entirely and not have a civil conversation. it's easier to make racist and tacky picture posts about ~elitism~ i guess.
>http://thelolitaguidebook.tumblr.com/post/115450591697/sugar-honey-iced-tea-the-new-lolita-guide
>http://sugar-pie-ghost.tumblr.com/post/115451200855/sugar-honey-iced-tea-sugar-pie-ghost

>>8226974
Also, it looks like the model in the pic is wearing a wig, that doesn't look like dyed hair.

>>8226598
its that a thing thats taught?

>>8226598
I don't know, I thought you guys only had black awareness month or whatever?
afaik everyone in Europe I know from outside of the Isles knows about it except some Slavs. Who, to be fair, had enough of their own shite to deal with in the past few years so it's understandable.

>>8227028
It's not an awareness thing, it's common fucking US history. Contrary to what Tumblr would have you believe, most Americans do know that Europeans are racist to other white Europeans.

>>8227030
Sorry, I don't really care much for US history so I wouldn't know anything about that.

>>8225679
>Irish-Native-Japanese-German-Badger

>>8227018
>>8227028
We're taught about these subjects throughout grade school and I'm very sure that other states do as well. So unless she went to an extremely
shitty school, she's got no excuse.

>>8227030
This. Most Americans do know about this stuff.

>>8227066
We didnt do over irish history. It wasnt revelent for the demographic
>>8227070
Most kids in my school wouldnt believe that stuff. Its like understanding why asains were against eachother. Usually it was always one race vs another.

>>8226415
Dude this is taken way out of context. Like >>8226355 actually happened, but the Jews were considered to be a specific race by the nazis. It was a race oriented crime, but the race was created by the nazis.
A lot of us aren't white - granted the majority in concentration camps would be based on the geographic location - but they in no way said that the holocaust didn't count. I do not like Emma, Kaitlyn is ok because I feel Emma encourages her to say things that she normally wouldn't. But the one thing I cannot stand is the people who take those things so far out of context and try to shove words in their mouths like you have done. I hate the fact that I have to stick up for someone I loathe.

>>8227030
People can be racist towards anyone. I do believe that race can be a social construct (yep I am white). There are clear differences between people of different ethnicities - but look how the Nazis simply decided that we jews are our own race, people decided the Irish were their own race, the slavs their own race, the gypsies their own race. All of those unique races within Europe. And yet most people from Japan, Korea, China, etc/ all get lumped under "Asian" in the West. Not one of those "I don't see color" people, but race is definitely not a set in stone thing because people constantly redefine it.

>>8227066
She is from Canada.

>>8227075
That's just sad then. Anti-Irish sentiment was covered pretty thoroughly in US History, especially on the history of it in the East Coast (I'm in the Midwest).

Anyway, saging for OT

>>8227030
US history is a joke class and I went to school at one the best public schools in the nation.

>>8227117
Didn't anyone see in the news how recently they're trying to pass some kind of bill that in this state they edit out parts of US History courses that encourage 'un-patriotic sentiment' ? Just like some Christian school teaches that God put man and dinosaurs on the Earth together and slavery never happened.

>>8227138
>Didn't anyone see in the news how recently they're trying to pass some kind of bill that in this state they edit out parts of US History courses that encourage 'un-patriotic sentiment' ?

Fuck, really? I can't see something like that passing; that's basically censorship, which is not something Americans take kindly to.

>>8227077
I was obviously exaggerating a bit when I said "it doesn't count", but one of the SJWs on RC: Uncensored did refuse to acknowledge that the Holocaust was a racist act against caucasians because "Jews aren't really white" or something. Whether or not people of Jewish descent are white is widely debated, sure, but that doesn't mean you get to disregard the entire thing just because some people think that Jew does not equal white.

>>8227150
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/02/why-oklahoma-lawmakers-want-to-ban-ap-us-history.html

>a school-board member said the course should be modified to promote "patriotism" and discourage "civil disorder, social strife, or disregard of the law."

>>8227162

Ah, now I remember why I didn't apply for a job there, among other things.

I may be going to a shit place for a job, but at least it isn't fucking oklahoma.

>>8227028
>black awareness month
kekking

>>8226538
People here in the Southwest have every right to hate mexicans. Racism isn't the problem, mexicans are. They cry racist to silence any criticism of their people like the pieces of trash they are. They're the worst thing to happen to this country and no one outside of the southwest believes us because they don't have mexicans. Mexicans all have an obnoxious sense of entitlement when it comes to staying in this country. They act like living in mexico isn't an option, anyone who disagrees is just racist. Oh, and they also think that the south west rightfully belongs to them. Know why? Because they GAVE it to us after losing a war that they started 500 fucking years ago. It was fucking deserted when they gave it to us, and not they want it back because we turned it into California. They think that we "stole" it from them. I'm not joking, this is actually what they believe. They're that fucking stupid. Ask any mexican about it and they'll pull the whole THIS IS OUR LAND GRINGO GIVE IT BACK WE BE ALL AZTEC AND SHEET.

>>8226538
So, it's only bad to hate people from other countries if they're not white? Would you call it "a serious problem" if I said I hated French people?

>>8225655
How could that shit ever pass as white? Is it a black thing to see all none-black people as "white"? First Zimmerman was white, then Elliot Rodgers, ect.

>>8227186
Well it is kind of a grey area, and zimzam could pass for an Italian with one eye closed.

>>8221854
It's called having a good job, anon.

I swear to god cgl is so full of broke high schoolers and dumb college kids getting their useless communications degrees. You can easily have $2000 spare cash lying around if you're not an idiot.

>>8227151
I remember that quote from Rufflechat: uncensored. Someone asked them about Jewish peoples and one (I think Emma, but might not be) said point blank that Jewish peoples are not white.

>>8227263
Hey now, I make good money with my comm degree

>>8227266
They aren't white, they're Persian.

>>8227275
Daniel Radcliff. Amanda Bynes. Laura Prepon. Zach Braff.

All these people are apparently not white then.

>>8227275
>>8227284
Those are Mizrahis, Ashkenazi Jews like Debra Messing are white.
Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity. You can have multiple ethnicities amongst followers of a single religion, just like not all Muslims are Arabs and not all white Muslims are converts (for example Bosnians, who are Slavs, have a big Muslim population, even though they're mostly secular and not very strict about the rules)

>>8227263
>You can easily have $2000 spare cash lying

Yeah, but you have to be pretty stupid to spend it all in one go on non-mainstream clothing. If it was a payment plan I'd probably change my tune but to me it just sounds ridiculous to spend $2,000 in one transaction on a dress set that won't even be wearable most days.

>>8227297
Why do you think it's stupid? There are people who spend much more than $2000 on watches, camera lenses, fountain pens, and other random shit.

Maybe it's ridiculous to you because you don't have any disposable income, but people who do don't even blink throwing down that kind of money because, like I said, it's disposable money for them.

>>8227311
I'm more one of those "I don't want to spend this much in one go because what if something happens and I need that money?" types. I understand that if you have a lot of money, it's no big deal though.

>>8227317
That makes sense for you situation, of course. I just know a lot of people who have great STEM jobs, so it's common for me to see their new really expensive purchases all the time. It all depends on your situation. Some people can afford $2000 dresses. Most can't. And that's a-okay.

>>8227311
I'm so sick of seeing this borderline bait on both sides.

Responsible saving doesn't jump you straight to having $2000 available for a dress at any time beside your savings. And some people just have a fucking limit. They know what they won't spend on any given item, no matter how much they make.

Neither having that money for a dress nor seeing that much money and putting it aside for something else is stupid. It's just a personal choice.

>>8227275
>Persian
>Not white
Anon, they're literally about as Caucasian as you can get.

>>8227329
>It's just a personal choice.
Completely agree. I just can't help but get extremely jimmy rustled when people get incredulous about people spending money.

Like you dumb bitch, you'd spend the money if you had it too. And fuck the people who spout that they'd practice extreme altruism and donate their money if they had it. I'm sure some would, but let's be honest now,

>>8227349
Part of my post got cut. But yeah, I was saying, let's be honest, this board is the one where dumb, broke 20 somethings post about camming for money, how to find sugar daddies, and that kind of thing. Smh

>>8227351
>dat bait

>>8227351
>smh
>niggers thinking they can tell anyone shit
kek

>>8227348
White=European decent. Though whites are classified as Caucasian, not all Caucasians are white. Turks are white by your logic.

>>8227284
And you would be correct. Look at their facial features. Aside from that, most real whites don't have black, curly hair. Few do, but most don't. If it's the norm within an ethnicity, then they probably aren't white.

>>8227403
>Turks are white
A lot of them are, thanks to harem wives from Europe. It's like saying 'All Americans are black', you have many different ethnicities within one country. Kurds aren't white, but Anatolian Turks are.
Pic related was Turkish and white. Also the creator of modern Turkey, but that's another story.

>>8227410
>most real whites don't have black, curly hair
>let me tell you about your country
Go back to /pol/, it's even become a stereotype of the Irish/Welsh in the UK
By your logic the only real whites are blue-eyed and blond, which is bollocks.

>>8227393
How is it bait? Just look in the archives, it's pathetic how many replies "how do you afford lolita" threads get and how they all degenerate into "how 2 find sugar daddy" and "how 2 cam" bullshit threads.

>>8227398
>nigger
>am east Asian and pale as fuck

Maybe you meant to reply to the "black ppl r ugly" person above?

>>8227420
>Small amount of white admixture makes you white

Are you fucking retarded? Being part white makes you mixed raced. Me thinks you're a none-white trying to cling to a white identity.
>All Americans are black
Very few white Americans have black in them. It gets played up on the T.V.
Most black people are part white, though. Most "white" people in the states who are mixed with blacks or natives are of Irish decent because they were exempt from the Eugenics program. Meanwhile, other whites were kept racially pure. (This is why I don't consider Irish Americans to be white.)

>>8227444
>Me thinks you're a none-white trying to cling to a white identity.
I'm Irish and whiter than u :^)
>the rest
>>>/pol/, not even gonna bother

>>8227443
Jesus fuck, can tumblr kids not come up with their own words at all? Why is it that Tumblr out of all places used black people dialect more then anyone else on the internet?
>smh
>salty
>thick
I'm not even black and it pisses me off, come up with your own fucking words. You're not black you stupid cunt rag.

guys can we please not do this, we were doing so well...

we have to come together in our distaste for idiots like Raleigh and Penny and Wonderfuck

>>8227455
>Irish
>white
HAHAHAHA so I was correct? Gtfo potato nigger.

>>8227466
>black people dialect
The fuck, since when was "smh" strictly "black people dialect"? The words salty and thick aren't just used by black people either. All three are very commonly used colloquially.

Man, can't believe I had to just explain this to someone. 10/10, made me respond.

>>8227455
>>8227473
Can you guys both go back to pol? This is a board about Cosplay and EGL, and this particular thread is for Online Lolita Communities.

Anyway, back on topic. I'm glad that EGL on lj started the "Newbie Notes" thing. Now I won't get an RSS feed update notification for some dumb question that could have been solved with a Google search!

>>8227487
Well, ya, now they're used by everyone because white kids stole it. Same with how tweaking went mainstream. Twerking has existed since the 80's white kids just haven't found it until recently. Of course, they jump on any black word/style/whatever because they wish they were black and are too fucking stupid to come up with their own culture.

>>8227494
>Can you guys both go back to pol
I have nothing to do with them, quit being a cuntrag
>I'm glad that EGL on lj started the "Newbie Notes" thing
Likewise, it's much easier this way
>Now I won't get an RSS feed update notification
People still use those?

>>8227263
>>8227311
>>8227327
You'll be surprised that there are some lolitas who have a lot of money. A lot of my money is tied up on Wall Street. I'm still in college right now who is graduating soon and questioning why I got this degree. However, I wouldn't buy the dress. It just does not interest me.

>>8227506
Seriously dude? I know a lot of black people who detest black culture because of people like you who think "oh hurr durr stop taking everything away from black people". They don't speak in ebonics, they don't twerk and they don't use any of the words you have mentioned. Ghetto=/= black. It's not black culture, it is the culture of a specific group of black people. Now shut up and stop being racist and generalising.

>>8227507
>>8227494
>>8227487


Seriously go back to /pol/ I'm with the other Anon.

Also in other news, WTH WHY WOULD ANYONE POST THIS? It's grossing me out beyond belief.


I'm curious... Who posted about the brand-volution in that Ita secret? My comm is pretty ita-tastic and most of them are classic. Seriously none of my comm own petticoats. It's bizarre.

>>8227660
If we want to be real here, Ghetto-ness is really a Jewish thing

>>8227668
All I meant by ghetto was the stereotype. Somehow this harmful stereotype has actually been embraced by some black people as their "culture". It isn't and I am sick of people saying it is.

>>8226949
>>8226948

How is that racist? The bad grammar, referencing asian's speaking another language badly?
I thought this was a joke, and I found it pretty funny.

>>8227870
It isn't racist, its just a stereotype that asians speak english badly.

>>8226948

Another idiot who doesn't know what racism actually is. Dumbfuck.

>>8227349
>>8227351

SALTY.

>>8225808
Man, I don't get why they're so salty about the guide. Did the lolita handbook make them so mad too? THE LOLITA HANDBOOK SAID I NEEDED A PETTICOAT SO FROM NOW ON I WON'T WEAR ONE FUCK THE LOLITA POLICE

I've seen sneaker coords I liked but acting like wearing non-matching sneakers makes you a huge edgelord is ridiculous

>>8225202
Black and white headdress, white sock toppers and removing the detachable bow at the waist would have improved it, but not bad overall.

>>8226644

>has her own shop
>names it fairycheese
>fuckin' gross.jpg

>>8228129
>>8227896
Actually stereotypes about groups of people are racist. It's a very mild form of racism, and everyone is a bit racist, so I wouldn't get too hung up on it.

>mfw wonderfinch is trying to one up me in and advice thread on our comm page

>>8229820
I'm not surprised. She is still so vicious and doesn't know how to coord.

Why dont people actually stand up to wonderbitch?