/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I'll never buy brand petticoats because you can get much better quality for much less.

I am on a tight budget so I only ever buy 2nd hand brand headwear or accessories everything else in my wardrobe is offbrand and I really agree about pettis Malco Modes is my go to.

I bought my first baby skirt ever after taobao'ing and bodylining my first 2 years. All it did was bleed, bleed and bleed when I tried to wash it. I'm never buying a print again.

>>7598427
maybe next time you could actually follow the fucking cleaning instructions instead of throwing it in the washing machine with your dirty underwear

>>7598432
maybe you can not be such a bitch
>>7598427
I'm so sorry about your dress anon

Everything but my petticoats are brand.

I just go to try out one item and then I can't go back to offbrand...

My bellshape petti has lost most of it's volume, maybe time to try brand lol no

I dont buy anythingbut brand but offbrand pettis and replica shoes. My coordinate colors match much better than if it was all offbrand colors. The lace matches. The overall look is consistent in style.

>>7598427
You should always look up how to wash delicate things beforehand.
It's your own fault really

>>7598432
Out of curiousity, how do you avoid bleeding? Dry cleaning?

>>7598461
Dry cleaning is ideal, but other than that handwashing it in cool water, with a smal amount of detergent.

>>7598432
Sandy much.
>>7598460 Is there really a tried and tested way though? It seems everything I own with red on it runs like a bitch, thank God for color catcher. I have a red dress with a white yoke and I'm scared to even get it steam cleaned.

>>7598460
What methods did you use?

>>7598413
Petticoats/bloomers, because nobody really sees these and who the fuck cares so long as it lasts and has good shape?
I tried a brand petticoat on in person and I was not impressed.

Also tights. I usually hate the designs and since I have thicker legs I know I can never pull them off. I'd hate to spend $30+ on them only for them to not fit or look like shit. Socks are okay though.
I also don't usually buy their gloves.

>>7598432
>>7598460
that print wasn't on any of the "washing info" posts on EGL. the tag recommended dry cleaning, but the only dry cleaner near me really sucks - no way will i trust them with any of my clothes again, loli or not. their service is like shit and the last time i used them i got my blouse back damaged (and unwashed).

anyway i knew i was taking a risk, did everything i could - vinegar, ice cold water, no rubbing, dried flat on laundry sheets etc. so please tell me what i might have left out?

prints are just so high maintenance for me. and it's not like i can read the laundry tag before buying because i'm not near a brick and mortar store. maybe if i move somewhere with a decent laundromat i'll change my mind.

I've read on here a lot about bleeding prints and that it helps by soaking it in cold water.
Never tried that myself though.

>>7598477
then dont fucking get your clothes dirty you slob pig

>>7598479
>wear clothes more than once
>don't get them dirty!!!11
>what are skin oils
>what is sweat

Are you retarded?

>>7598481
>2014
>having skin oils
>sweating
fucking disgusting

>>7598482
You had me going for a minute there.

>>7598479
>dirty slob pig
i'll grease up as much burando as i can get my hands on with my au naturale piggy skin butter, put them all up on lacemarket, i hope you'll be the one to snap them up and pass your grease on to my ex-burando <3

>>7598489
i dont have grease because i actually bathe

>>7598467
I always spot clean if there's only a smal area that need cleaning, and then I only use luke warm water and a gentle hand soap.
If it needs a good cleaning I either send it to the dry cleaners or wash it in cold water with gentle detergent or soap.

>>7598492
b-b-but i just wana smear our grease all over each other, anon-chan...

>>7598477

I think the trouble most posters have is that you took your one sucky experience and made it a complete generalisation about the quality of every print, everywhere. Probably would have helped if you added one more sentence after that that said you know not all prints run but you can't afford to take a chance with any of it since your budget isn't that forgiving.

Anyhow anon, that was really terrible luck, my sympathies for the loss. I can understand that spending so much on a single item only to ruin it after the first wear is depressing.

If you do want to try again, some of btssb's newer stuff is more colorfast, especially the pastels stuff. I handwashed my first few btssb dresses because I had the same problem with drycleaners as you, the dresses came out all right. I still wear them every now and again but I've got a dobby that outsources to a fairly okay place near me now. Hope a decent laundromat moves near you soon.

I always buy off brand shoes, and I make my own pettis. Brand jewelry honestly isn't that great as far as quality goes, but I buy it anyway because it's cute. I wore bodyline for a straight 5 years before making the switch, and as soon as my fingers touched brand I sold every bodyline piece of crap I owned except shoes. Baby's shoes are horrible from what I've seen, and AP shoes are on par with SS and in some cases even bodyline. So not worth the price imo. I occasionally buy from the brands myself, because it feels really special getting a new brand piece, but most of my stuff is from cheap yj auctions.

>>7598434
Really? I don't get it. I have brand, and it's nice. But not OMG I CAN NEVER GO BACK!
I'm SO gonna buy that Bodyline unicorn print.
I also want offbrand stuff for meetings where you have a picnic in the park or other risky stuff like that.

Always burando:
>dresses, especially those with prints
>outerwear

Never burando:
>petticoats
>shoes
>socks

Rest is 50/50 and depends on the item. I'm counting Taobao as non-brand here, btw.
For shoes I don't like to spend too much money on something I can't test out first, and the only brand shoes I really like are in a style that's generally available somewhere else. Jewelry is either second hand brand or offbrand finds. Other accessories are handmade. I prefer my socks and tights to be plain so those are also easy to find in other places. Skirts can be brand, Taobao or handmade.

I'm really tempted to splurge on some IW blouses (is that lucky pack ever happening?) but I worry that they won't look good on my 37cm shoulders. Same for cardigans and boleros. The items I can actually try on before buying are never lolita-appropriate, but spending good money on something that ends up not fitting is so depressing.

I buy everything brand except my petticoat.
Most of my shoes are brand, I have a pair of old bodyline replica shoes tho.
I have some cheap slightly damaged brand that are for moments where you could damage or stain your stuff, like if you ride the train.

>>7598413
>- Things you always buy brand
There are no things were I would say that I would *always* buy brand.
Although it's more because I am a busty girl, and many things do not fit me; especially because I am into Classic, and MM, VM and JetJ will never ever fit my bust. Dat feeling... I am losing weight and hope to fit more skirts, but we were just not really meant for each other. So Taobao, Indie and Innocent Wolrd Size L it is.

I generally like brand clothes more. My first dress was from Baby, and from then on, I was never looking back. I had a few BL dreses, and sold them all because they just couldn't hold up the the standard I expected from Lolita fashion. I have some nice taobao pieces though. Inside of me is a raging brand whore, I admit. I even bought some brand jewellery and ribbons flower clips just because they were burando. I am currently looking for a brand parasol that isn't too expensive, and just bought a burando bracelet for the matching necklace I already own.

>- Things you will never buy brand
Shoes, because I know I will never fit them. Same with tights, I am just too tall and my legs too chubby. I wouldn't buy a petticaot, but I just reserved the IW chiffon underskirt Petti. B-but only because of the underskirt! I also tend to buy most of my accessoires offbrand nonetheless.

>- General brand vs. offbrand discussion
I usually prefer brand when it comes to clothes; but if I see a nice quality offbrand item, I won't pass on it because it does not have a brand tag. Accessoires and shoes I prefer offbrand mostly, but having a few pieces feels nice. You can add them to your normalfag clothes and still have a little Lolita feeling.

I don't mind offbrand at all, but I hate the attitude some people, especially newbies and fatties, develope regrding brands. "evil and expensive!!", "Why does burando not make skirts for my 140cm waist?? ;_;", "Once you're over a size 10 you will never fit brand!", "Elitist brandwhores!!!" and shit like that.

- Things you always buy brand
Main pieces and socks
-Mostly brand
Tops like blouses bolero's and cardigans. Bags
- Things you will never buy brand
Bloomers and petticoats, stuff that won't be visible, I'm actually starting to think on getting some brand shoes if the shipping wouldn't kill me.
I love brand, I wish my comm would increase it's love for it too. It has a couple really well dressed burando wearing girls, but also a lot of bodyline weebs. There is also an okay taobao middle group, usually girls that could dress well if their size wouldn't get in the way.

Please dry clean your brand prints! You don't even have to take it to a dry cleaner, just use a Dryel home dry cleaning kit (all you need is a dryer). Whenever people complain about prints running it's always because they washed it instead of dry cleaning it like the care label recommends. Don't blame the brand if you went against their cleaning instructions.

>>7598667
I've seen those, I've been weary though cause don't tumble dryers shrink clothes?

>>7598653
>brand parasol that isn't too expensive

What is too expensive for a parasol? If you can find them in stock, they're rather reasonable in price IMO.

I just received a parasol from Baby today, and the shipping wasn't killer in any way, a little more than $20 USD, same as what I'd pay for shipping anything else.

>>7598694
>What is too expensive for a parasol? If you can find them in stock, they're rather reasonable in price IMO.

It's mostly the shipping that make it expensive for me. I just started looking, so maye I am just lookig on the wrong sites now.

>I just received a parasol from Baby today, and the shipping wasn't killer in any way, a little more than $20 USD, same as what I'd pay for shipping anything else.

Source? Where do you recommend getting a chaep brand parasol? Preferably from a site that states if I can use it as an umbrella...

>>7598704
>Source?
Directly from Baby Japan. What is your location, I'm in the US.

>>7598707

Ah, just checked that, thanks! I was already looking through IW, but it seems they do not ship parasoles international? Because they do not appear in their international store...

I'm from Germany. Shipping wouldn't be that different, I think. I will just have to pay another $20 on customs, I guess.

>>7598667
Except old screen prints. For the love of god, keep those away from dry cleaners.
>flashbacks to when I had Onasanpo Candy Chan dry cleaned and half the print melted off

>>7598704
http://www.brolliesgalore.co.uk/vintage-frilled-pagoda-umbrella-black-c2x12784142

I plan to get that instead of a brand one
the colored brand stamps on their parasols bother me, because what if I don't want that color in my coord, you know?

>>7598492
You bathe, though.
You're bathing in your own juices.

>not showering

Go be retarded somewhere else you filthy scum.

>>7598434
Even your shoes and all your jewelery? Brand shoes are of terrible quality, and the non-plastic jewelery is terrible quality and doesn't hold up well.

>>7598470
>tights
I really want burando tights, but I'm worried about getting runs. Are they better than regular tights for that?

>>7598726
Bathing doesn't just refer to having a bath, you know

>>7599057
I have baby's tights and they are wonderful compared to normie tights. They won't run or tear. Just make sure you're under 5'5" and not fat. I'm 5'5" myself, 140lbs, thin legs but fat thighs/ass, and the print distorts ever so slightly. I should also probably mention I have a longer torso and so my legs are short compared to most 5'5"s.

>>7598712

The Btssb Store in Paris has umbrellas, even for a reasonable price. That might reduce shipping and avoids customs for sure.

>>7599057
I have like two of AP's tights, and they're made from pretty sturdy stuff. I don't feel like I'm going to break them or anything. The issue is unless you're 5'5" or shorter, that shit won't fit you. Even being in that height range the print on the tights will thin out from stretching and you can hardly see what's on my legs depending on what color you get them in.
I'm a printed tights whore, so I'm still going to cave and buy them.

>>7599071
>>7599079
I'm 5'6", 115. Maybe ap...

I have really narrow shoulders and the best blouses for me are always Mary Magdalene. I have some Angelic Pretty and Innocent World blouses that had an okay fit - I got them taken in a bit and now they're perfect too.

BTSSB/AATP blouses are so ridiculously big in the shoulders on me it throws off the whole blouse...I sold all mine. I've experimented with a bunch of taobao brands (fail). I've tried Bodyline, one worked okay and like five or six others didn't fit at all.

So I've decided to just stick to Mary Magdalene, AP, and IW even though they're more expensive. /shrug

>>7598413
>Things you always buy brand
I wouldn't say there's anything I totally exclusively buy brand because I do buy indie; but 'mostly brand' would apply for main pieces (dresses and skirts).

>Things you will never buy brand
Shoes, jewelry, pettis/bloomers. I haven't been impressed with the quality of floral accessories from brand either, I actually like etsy and other handmade ones I've bought better so I'd say those as well.

>In general
I like buying offbrand for a lot of things, blouses, tights and most accessories for example. Vintage finds are some of my favorites for hats/jewelry/gloves and the like, as well as good handmade headwear and jewelry. The victorian trend from 3-5 years ago was a great boon to find used or never used loliable blouses on ebay etc.

I really love classic brand blouses as well, if I were to totally overhaul my blouse stock it would be just IW, VM and offbrand blouses, probably. Aside from a few pieces I still have my eye on and shoes, I'm done with ordering from Bodyline, it's just too meh in fit and style. I keep buying brand OTK's because I like the designs but then I never wear them because I prefer the coverage of tights and they're too cold for our winters but too warm for summer... I wish brands would put out more of their OTK designs as tights as well.

Always Brand: skirts, socks

Mostly Brand: jsks

Never brand: petticoat, and shoes
Shoes are too small so no choice there.
I don't often buy brand head bows or blouses either. I have man shoulders that don't fit in brand blouses very well.

>>7598477
> it said dry clean only
> but I did it anyways

You are a fucking genius.

>>7598413
I started buying brand two years ago, and unless I'm buying shoes/petticoat/bloomers/blouses I buy brand. Though I'm really considering brand blouses since all bodyline has is polyester crap and it's stifling. Even inside I'm sweating in them. AP makes cotton blouses and I received one in a lucky pack. It felt wonderful.

>Always
Main pieces. Well not always, I own one indie skirt and two Bodyline pieces since Mr Yan was supposed to come out. But the cocaine was much to appetizing I suppose. I'll probably sell one and keep the other. I like collecting brand dresses and prints. I really do like indie and taobao things, but I kind of feel like if I buy them, they're going to end up being sold quickly down the road in favor of a brand piece I want.

I also really like brand socks. I've owned some plain offbrand OTKs but I prefer a slight pattern (or the matching socks) rather than just a plain block of color. Not opposed to offbrand/indie tights though since they're cheaper and not quite as limited edition as brand tights that'll get holes or snags for $50

>Maybe
Brand shoes. IDK, If I'm paying that much for shoes, they'd better be some Vivienne Westwoods. Though I suppose having some 2nd hand brand shoes would be a good idea if I ever go to any events. Either that or I'd just wear offbrand.

>Never
Petticoats, bloomers, more mature jewelry since it's a lot pricer and unless it's branded, it tends to look a lot like taobao/aliexpress stuff a lot of the time. I do like collecting AP's plastic jewelry though.

>General
Blouses: I prefer brand blouses. But it's hard finding the right cuts and sizes that'll fit properly on a bigger bust on the 2nd hand market. The price new is a little to steep for me. I like to keep my blouses around the $40-80 price range.

I own some Meta and AP blouses as well as a few Baby tops and I really like them. But for some stupid reason I get more wear out of my Bodyline blouses.

I will almost never buy brand shoes because the quality is almost never worth the price. Unless the shoes are some gorgeous design or special color I can't find in my offbrand or taobao finds, I'll stick to my cheaper alternatives.

Bloomers and pettis are items I'll never buy brand either.

>>7599406
Vintage blouses and vintage style blouses are some of my favorite loliable secondhand finds.

>>7598461
Most prints you can color fast it with vinegar and cold water. You can also handwash and have a bit of control of the color running off and changing the water as you go for the first few washes.

The thing that drives me up the wall is BTSSB black and whites anything, even solids, they run and make the white parts slightly grey. Even though I washed it by hand, it ran like hell for a solid color.

Honestly though, I find even pieces within the same brands hit or miss for me in terms of quality. Like really gorgeous prints that stay, weaved in patterns versus prints bleeding and boarder prints not matching well at the seams.

>>7599057
6'2" (188cm) and 170lbs.
I have fairly thin legs for my height/weight, and they're not bad at all. I don't think height has much to do with it. Just weight. Hope I helped, anon.

>Things you always buy brand
- Dresses
- Skirts
- OP's
- OTKs
- Purses
- Do Wigs count? I only wear Cyperous or Gabalnara, none of that GLW nonsense.

>Things you will never buy brand
- Blouses: Dear Celine and Taobao have really spoiled me.
- Petticoats: Not even Brand beats my classical puppets petticoats in terms of poof
- Tights: My legs are too big
- Jewelry: I prefer vintage
- Shoes: Department stores, I have huge feet
- Hair Accessories: I prefer making my own or wearing vintage hats

Unabashed Taobao and vintage addict when it comes to accessories. And even Taobao has stepped up their dress game with shops like Krad Lanrete and Surfacespell. I still prefer Brand for most main pieces though. And I think as a classic lolita vintage is a much easier option to find. My preferences would probably be different if I was sweet or gothic.

>>7599539
>not sure if man or amazon
>if the later you should cosplay wonder woman plox
My ideal height is 5'11, but I will never pass 5'8

>Always
-JSK's/Skirts/Ops
I mostly buy IW, but I now have a btssb velvet set and an oldschool meta velvet skirt. The velvet for both is very nice, but the baby one is soooo soft, I love it. I also have a baby cardigan and was really surprised the length was just fine; usually sleeves are short on me. I would say IW's pieces are pretty consistent, though I have the Ophelia Jsk and it feels a bit cheaper than the rest of my pieces.
>Sometimes
-Blouses
-Main pieces
-Accessories
I've been buying a lot of my stuff from taobo. Mostly because it's cheaper but for nice quality.
>Never
-Shoes(I have peggy hill feet, and like others even if I could fit, I don't like the fact that for that much $$ I can't try them on)
-Jewlery

I buy brand, taobao, indie, handmade, department, whatever, without much distinction. I see it, I like it, I can afford it? I take it!

>>7598631

IW Lucky pack is already up: http://innocent-w.jp/shopping/142004/index_e.html

I've got 38cm shoulder width and the blouses are a bit tight, but they do fit. I think your bust definitely needs to be around 95cm or under and waist 78cm though, the 100cm bust blouses are new and I think they may not end up in lucky packs.

>>7598631
I think their blouse luckypack was only for those who were on a waiting list for the oddment pack but didn't get one. (I'm disappointed too)

>>7599582
Just amazon.

>tfw you will never be qt3.14 tiny lolita

>>7599602
stupid question but is the s/m/l the size of the clothes?

>>7599690
Don't feel bad, Anon. I personally like being tall.
If a skirt is a few inches too high above my knee, I can usually wear tights and pass. If a skirt is too long on a short loli, it makes them look even more midgety and can even look like the dress is wearing them. I'd take the former any day.

>>7599717
Yes

>>7599690
B-but I want to be even taller. Granted I don't envy that you must have an even harder time finding shit that has a good length. Tall girls are sexy and elegant looking.

I own everything from Baby the stars shine bright.
I am in love with this brand,it's the first one I heard of when I heard of lolita and I instantly fell in love.
I just want everything they do especially old school pieces. I may have a tiny tiny bit of other brand like for some shoes or some accessories but I don't have any offbrand

>Always
JSKs, OPs, skirts

>I swing either way
Blouses (though all of mine are brand), cardigans/boleros, accessories, jewelery, legwear

>Never
Shoes, they won't fit a size 9. And I prefer more elegant normalfag shoes to bubble toed kiddy shoes. I would totally buy Jane Marple shoes but they're too expensive and I assume they don't go as large as a 9 either.

>>7599539
If those are AP tights I have no fricking idea how you're able to comfortably wear them because my legs are too long at 5'9 for them to go all the way up so the crotch is sitting on me mid thigh or something stupid.

Does only having brand and no Bodyline/offbrand AT ALL for lolita makes me a brandwhore?

>>7599965
Not necessarily. As long as you don't think bodyline/offbrand is always shit and brand is superior in every circumstance no one cares tbh.

always brand: maybe jsks, headbows
never brand: everything else
I'm a Taobaowhore though since shipping to my country is fucking cheap and I can get an entire outfit for the price of second hand brand.

My dream brand pieces seem to never pop up any more now that I have the money to spend and I just want a wardrobe fast.

>>7600031
>I'm a Taobaowhore though since shipping to my country is fucking cheap and I can get an entire outfit for the price of second hand brand.

>mfw I am a Eurofag
>mfw customs are insanely high
>mfw I will never be able to do large taobao hauls because I had to pay ~40% customs for each big order

Always burando
>JSKs/OPs
>socks
>cardigans
>parasols

Sometimes
>shoes (AP only)
>head accessories
>blouses
>purses

Never burando
>petticoats
>jewelry
>bloomers

>>7599412
There are a lot of dry clean only items that can be hand washed no problem. Where she was a boneheaded idiot was in not doing a spot test first.