/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Heck yeah. Muslim lolitas are adorable.

I don't see why not

>>7466785
It depends.

I've seen photos of girls in hijabs that don't match the coord at all, and that looks stupid as hell. But like your pic, I think that looks okay.

They also work better in more toned-down coords, because then the big hair to offset the big dress isn't as necessary.

>>7466785
oh i know this con, ive been to it saw these two

they're not that different to colored wigs, really. i think they're adorable c:

>>7466795
Well.

The hijab looks fine, but those jeans look fucking stupid.

At least wear boots or something and tuck in the bottoms.

>>7466796
I-
Is that Peenus?

>>7466806
Nope, some japanese muslim girl.

>>7466806
I follow this girl on tumblr and she coords things really nicely.

She wears the jeans for the modesty factor, and she tends to avoid high heels also, so considering this fact, she looks fucking fabulous, not stupid.

>>7466811
Oops, I overdid the commas.

>>7466811
Fabulous, really...?
I mean she looks really cute aside from the jeans but come on, stop it with the white guilt.

>>7466811
I kinda agree with the other anon that boots would look better with tucked in pants. They don't need to have heels, either. Also, she coud wear flats instead of random sneakers.

>>7466819
the outfit looks more fairy kei than lolita so i think it's fine tbh

if it was more of a full lolita outfit i'd call out the jeans and sneakers too

I think hijabs go better with mori and maybe dolly kei (matryoshka doll girls pls).

>>7466819
>compliments non-white person
>white guilt!!!!
Also,
>implying anon is white
Stop withe the dumb /pol/ shit.

I think they look better with mori-kei but they can also look good with lolita.
I don't have the picture anymore but I saw a lolita with a adorable long hijab that was layerd out of 2 pastel coloured scarfs and ended in a braid on one shoulder. It looked so cute.
I do prefer hijabs with lots of layers above those hijabs that lay flat on your head.

>>7466785
>>7466795
>>7466796
Why is it always the gross pink and green pastels?
I'd like to see some Muslim lolis try some other styles. And maybe not full-out have the hijab, but does the job of hiding your hair just as well.

>>7466819
Yeah, uh, I'm Filipino. It's great that you care so much of my opinion though. Really sweet.
>>7466829
Ba dum tss

>>7466840
please try to find it, that sounds great

>>7466819
>implying that white people can't give compliments to poc without them being stuffed with "white guilt"
in what universe do you live, honestly

>>7466840
Well, hijab mori probably would just like the traditional wear of some muslim countries, like pic related.

>>7466829
>>7466865
I think the concern was over the phrase
>so considering this fact
Which means we're holding her to a different aesthetic standard because of her religious beliefs.
It might not be what this anon is doing, so maybe everyone else is jumping the gun, but some people like to talk saying, "She's muslim! That means she's perfect and you cannot critique her! She needs the pants and shoes for her religion so you cannot suggest any other way to coord this than what she's wearing!"
We can still work with restrictions and make it look good. In fact, that's a lot of fun. On a less serious level, we do that in the coord thread. "Take this sweet jsk and make a classic coord." "I'd like a coord with this dress that uses these unusual colors" Things like that. It's a challenge. We can figure out a way to make something cute if we're given a set of rules to work with.

Others were suggesting that her coord would look better if she tried boots or flats. I don't know if that breaks the modesty restrictions, but it's a suggestion. A rebuttal response should either be, "I don't think that look good either, let's do this instead" or "She cannot wear boots or flats due to her religion. Let's think of something else."

>>7466838
>Other styles
Here's a gothic lolita! I like her brooch a lot.

>>7466865
In a universe where lolis without hijabs wearing this would be torn to pieces, but add a hijab and it's "awwwwwww how adowabuww"

>>7466859
I will do my best, it might take a couple of days

When I was in Afghanistan I never saw the face of an adult woman. They would hide from us.

This shit is cool and I wish the women out there didn't have to be so afraid

>>7466840
This one?

>>7466870
I kind of wish she wore a black blouse. The white looks so fucking basic.

>>7466785
It looks kinda dumb with the big bow slapped on her head like that tbh, just makes it look like those bodyline itas.
A small bow with a decorated hijab like >>7466795 looks much much better.

But yeah, I kinda wish I'd see some non-sweet muslim lolita. I think it'd look really elegant with a more classic or gothic style, though I guess gothic might be difficult since a lot of gothic prints and stuff have crosses. Still it'd be nice to see some jewel tones and darker colors with gold/silver here.

>>7466882
Why is everything so big on her?
The way the hijab is done is cute though.

I dont really care either way

the anything is fucking tumblrites jacking off to them making it a big fucking deal. If I was a muslim lolita wearing a hijab that would piss me off. Like you only care because I'm wearing a hijab that you can use as ammunition in some shitty social justice arguement

I wish there was a better shot of this coord! I wonder what she did for legwear and shoes.
I really like how her hijab picks out that lightest color in the jsk. Though I'd say the black cardigan should be swapped out for a brown or beige.
The haphazard layers give this kind of a mori look. I'm a sucker for scarves in lolita, so I'm not surprised that this would appeal to me.

>>7466884
I'm a huge fan of all black coords, so I think that'd look really good. Though sometimes it's fun to shake it up a bit with a bxw coord.
I think if her belt was white or her white necklace was more chunky, it would balance out the colors more.

>>7466882
yes that one! I'm no fan of bodyline but I tought the hijab was adorable

Sometimes hijabi lolis make questionable color choices. But...I've never seen a hijabi ita. Tbh 80% of them are good and the rest are average, the portion way higher for white lolitas. I think because for a hijabi girl to want to wear lolita she probably is significantly interested in it, rather than a slight casual interest and only a vague understanding of the rules.

>>7466912
I think the reason this is popular on tumblr and other websites is not just because "social justice, yay", but because people are always dying to see something new.

>>7466911
This is one of the few examples I've seen I actually liked, I don't really like them in sweet but this has a perfect mori girl feel to it.

>>7466872
I kinda agree, minus the hijab, a lot of these are kinda ita or have questionable elements. Most of us are completely covered minus the hair/head when it's colder weather anyways so it shouldn't be much of an excuse

>>7466882
This girl is wearing a normalfag dress shirt AND normal shoes, and everything is two sizes too big. Hijab idea is cute but ita as fuck otherwise.

>>7466870
Accessories are questionable.

>>7466796
Really flat/no petti.

This isn't lolita, nor is it titled as such. It's more jewel-toned otome than anything. But she doesn't look to be in j-fashion
Though if you swapped out her skirt for a lolita one of the same shade, used more lolita-appropriate legwear and blouse, It'd make a real nice coord. As a non-lolita outfit, it's stylin.

This is more inspiration of how hijabs can add to an outfit instead of being a crutch.

One thing that hijab lolitas can do that others can't is use more dramatic colors around their head. The equivalent for a non-muslim lolita would be a huge, bright wig. That's awfully OTT and sometimes using those colors for hair instead of fabric just doesn't look good. I've heard arguments on cgl about how using colored wigs are too matchy-matchy.

>>7466936
Surely it's against their religion to show that much leg?

>>7466921
Actually, many muslims find tights and knee socks a big nono so I kinda get why the pants are there. It's not everyone because levels of modesty vary, but you know.

I'm totally onboard for hijabs in lolita as long as they're color coorded properly.

However, I am not a fan of this style >>7466915
>>7466785 where a big bow is just plopped onto the head. Without having any hair or other poofy things to offset it, it looks dumb.

>>7466796 >>7466795 >>7466911
The way they are worn here is much cuter.

I really dislike this, though >>7466882 , not just because of the too big clothes, but the way the hijab is looks a bit ita how it's twisted together like that. Maybe in a different shot it'd be nicer but from that photo alone... eh.

>>7466952
Some are more old fashioned but not everyone. It depends on the family and personal traditions.

>>7466952
i'm atleast 60% sure that the girls just can't show the skin
skinny jeans and tights are fine

>>7466952
It is more about showing skin than everything else.

I think it looks retarded when you're doing sweet.

>>7466967
yeah, but some people's parents are super hardass when it comes to tights, it's not considered decent

>>7466967
Probably varies by sect of Islam, mosque, family rules etc.

which countries are more strict on fashion.

It seems like indonesian muslims are more lax. But i know Iran went from almost western freedom to, 99% covered up overnight.

>>7466967
For some modesty is also about not showing the outline of the body too much, so anything tight is off limit

>>7466981
and they would be right, in the sense that some men would still sexualize tight clothing.

>>7466981
I think in those cases, there's no point in doing lolita.
If you can't do it properly, you shouldn't do it period.

>>7466986
And you make the rules to lolita? It's not some goddamn club you join with an application and a gold card, it's fashion.

Granted, it might look ita without basic knowledge, but with your logic, anyone who starts to wear lolita should stop immediately.

>>7466995
You realize you're on /cgl/, right? Go back to tumblr if you're going to whine about others reprimanding you for not following the rules to a fashion correctly.
You can't just make up crap as you go. Even Mori, which is lax as hell, has special rules. You're not just going to go walking around in a bikini going 'I'M OCEAN MORI...!'

Similarly, you shouldn't be complaining that people think you look ita if you're wearing jeans under a lolita dress.

>>7466999

That is lovely.

>>7466936

I like the subtle pattern on her scarf. I think other jfashion muslims could do with some really nice patterned hijabs. I see it all the time on normal muslims, wonder why the muslims I've seen so far in jfash stick with solid colors mainly.

>>7467013
someone has a sandy slit today, whoop

>>7467013
>rules
Guidelines really...

If you need to change up so many things about lolita that you lose the defining silhoutte, your energy would really be better invested in another fashion than soapboxing on 4chan that everybody should give conservative muslim lolitas special privileges when they wear jeans under knee-length skirts.

We give the same harshness towards poor people (telling them lolita is a luxury and should never come before rent or living expenses), towards fatties (not a lot of clothes in their size, and just because something fits doesn't mean it's flattering), towards POC (telling them they don't get a free pass if they're ita), telling taller girls to get an underskirt, and so on. This isn't bashing on Islam, this is true equality. You don't get special consideration just because your religion forbids you to wear tight clothing, any more than other girls get consideration for being poor, or fat, or black, or tall, or anything else.

If you want to keep to the decadent lolita style, might I suggest Aristo or ouji instead? There's long skirts in aristo, some floor-length, and long pants in ouji. If you really like sweet, maybe look into fairy kei instead, pretty sure you could do some cute coords by pairing cute pastel tops with regular jeans
Or, you could go further and make/commission your own aristo dresses in pastel colours, maybe use spoonflower if you really like border prints.

We suggest aristo or ouji to girls who look too old for sweet, and we suggest alternate styles to girls who don't seem to like the lolita silhoutte a lot (eg we suggest otome if someone seems to like the style but not the poofy skirt), we suggest getting clothes custom made to fatties who can't fit into ready-made clothes. So we're not doing anything special here. It's just another regular day on 4chan where we tell yet another group of girls that they don't look as good as they think they do and that the fashion might not be the right hobby for them.

>>7467082
so you mean the difining silhouette is legs? or hair or neck...?

>>7467082
I think they look nice, anon.

>>7467099

Jeans under a poofy knee-length skirt don't look good.

Has anyone here heard of the Hijablog? http://thehijablog.werun.com

To my (limited) knowledge I think some muslims don't allow the sort of hijab styles she wears, but I've always thought that the bigger, almost turban styles would suit lolita better than the flat ones. It would at least balance out the poof of lolita skirts a bit.

>>7466977
Iran? Nah man, their girls are stylin'.

>>7467102

Some of the coords itt are ok, some are cute, and some are less than stellar.

It's more a response to >>7466811 arguing for special treatment because of "modesty". Poor people aren't entitled to lolita just because they're poor, tall people and those with linebacker shoulders have it even worse than Muslims, they'll forever be tall and wide and they still get nitpicked if their coords aren't good enough even though being tall or wide isn't something you can fix. I don't see why Muslims get a pass just because "modesty", so let me just shoot the elephant in the room. Some of the people posted in this thread just look terrible, regardless of their religion.

>>7467125
thank you, that's exactly how i feel about those threads too

>>7466838
I actually have a few pictures saved of that kind of thing. I grew up orthodox Jewish and my best friend still is, so I keep and inspiration folder for this.

>>7467306
This would still work without the hair showing up front.

No. In the UK we didn't have muslim women walking around like it was commonplace during the industrial revolution, despite what Doctor Who or other BBC programming would have you believe.

Not trying to be racist or anything but it's stupid. You can't have lolita wearing shrine maiden clothes or dreadlocks either.

>>7466785
I don't understand why you would ask that question. Anyone who says anything bad about mudslimes is going to be banned for racism, so there's no point.

>>7467313

Right, and people during the industrial revolution went around in knee length dresses decorated in the gaudiest pony pastel shit am I right?

There are a lot of semi coherent arguments against the hijab in lolita. This is not one of them.

>>7467309

Shit looks stupid. I have never seen it done right, because the hijab always ruins it.
Sandnigger genocide, best day of my life.

>>7467322

>>7467313
I don't like hijab with lolita myself (I've seen it look okay maybe once, I think that sugarnoor girl looks terrible, and would look mediocre at best without the hijab, the only reason anyone gives her attention is because of the it), but using historical inaccuracy as an argument against it is pretty dumb. Girls didn't go around with their legs showing during the Industrial Revolution, either.

>>7466912
This. It's so fucking patronising.

>>7467082
This.

>>7467313
>>7467328
Muslims aren't the only ones who wear headscarfs. Many Christians and Jews do too, as do Sikhs, who are all about eliminating kebab.

>>7467330
..aand I dropped my pic

>>7467082
I agree that we *should* be treated equally but if you think those groups, on 4chan of all places, are treated just as poorly as everyone else, you're delusional.

>>7467330
Why would you want to eliminate kebab? Kebab is delicious!

>>7467313
This
>>7467321
Hijabs are middle eastern. It does not fir the tone of lolita, deal with it. All this hijab hype is just a bunch of tumble faggots who want to believe Islam can be feminism too @3@ XD
Fuck hijabs and fuck tumblr whores who tell these retards they're cute. Picture related, this shit probably got a million notes on tumblr. Lolita is basically a modernized version of Victorian and Rococo fashion. It's not necessarily about what's in it, but rather what's not in it. Hijabs, henna, and middle eastern shit does not belong.

>>7466977
> But i know Iran went from almost western freedom to, 99% covered up overnight
>Pic is you

Iran is way up there on the most lax countries list. This blog shows what's actually worn there pretty well: http://thetehrantimes.tumblr.com/

>>7467343
To be fair, with that logic, you're also saying Asians can't wear lolita since Asian countries didn't participate in the Victorian fashion that lolita is based off of.

It's just a fucking fashion.

>>7467330
>>7467333

>>7467333
The volume really helps to balance out a heavier coord, I think.

>>7467341
......

>>7467351
It's a fashion you need to get right. Anyone can where it, so long as you're not an ita. I'm not saying sandniggers can't wear lolita, only that they always get it horribly wrong.
Here's a tip; Take that shit off your head. It's not doing you any favors.

>>7467350
I didn't post the girl on the left, though? Besides, lolita's not white.

>>7467362
Not loli, but definitely Jfash

>>7467351
That's not what they're saying at all, get some reading comprehension. They're saying the aesthetics don't match, not that the people can't wear it.

Asian aesthetics don't work in lolita either for that matter, Wa-lolita and qi-Lolita are almost universally considered ita. It's exactly the same thing. Lolita is one style, mashing in other random styles doesn't work, it goes against the rules for the fashion and it looks retarded 99% of the time.

>>7467360
So what if someone did an Islamic interpretation of lolita?
Like how there's wa and qi lolita styles.

>>7467363

>>7467362
>>I didn't post the girl on the left, though?
Are you really that fucking stupid? Think, you dense shitskin. It's an example of head scarves done right. Mudshites just can't figure it out. Then again, that's why they haven't left their stupid, pedophilic religion.

>>7467366
>Lolita is one style, mashing in other random styles doesn't work, it goes against the rules for the fashion and it looks retarded 99% of the time.

>being this retarded

You know that all lolita substyles are the result of mixing fashions with lolita, right?

>>7467367

>>7467368
But I said I'm not muslim. I'm as white as any americunt. Also, I understand that it's an example of head scarves done right and wrong, but I think I have an okay grasp on that already, thanks.

>>7467364
Ah, two fashion that always look like shit. Great examples. Stop posting hijabs, you aren't proving anything. (Other than the fact that they look retarded with lolita.)
>>/fa/
This board is about loli. Loli and cosplay.

>>7467374
I love this coord. Post more and stop responding to trolls who can't spell.

>>7467378
You know, the ones with more volume to balance out the bottom half of the coords are nice.

Not everything hijab is horrible, and I hated hijabs in lolita until I saw some of the pictures in this thread that made me realize it could work. I'm usually an asshole, and I think you're being a dick. You should probably stop.

>>7467372
No. All of the basic rules for lolita are the same within each of the subsyles. The only difference is the colour pallets and themes. Even an outsider can see how each of the substyles are part of one bigger fashion. When it gets to the point that the basic elements have to be completely changed (i.e. having to wear trousers under a skirt) it is no longer lolita.

The substyles aren't different fashions, they're different thematic elements.

>>7467378
I'm actually not even a lolita nor am I posting any of these. I just don't see anything wrong with it.
Lolita has no rules about headwear, anyway. It's recommended that you have something on your head to balance out the petticoat, yeah, but you're not required to wear a big puffy wig, headbows, false lashes, anything. People just choose to wear those because they think it makes their coords look better.

You don't think hijabs look good? Don't wear one.
Why does this even matter to you?

>Still responding even after the /pol/ shit dropped slurs
Even if you guys are so dense to not see a troll, would you really think someone like this is going to be reasoned with? Report and move on.
/cgl/, I don't think I've ever seen a single piece of bait get ignored in my time on this board. Why is it so accepted, unlike in the other boards?


>>7467306
Hey anon, I think this is really cool! Sometimes we get so wrapped up in finding specifically lolita-oriented inspiration that we forget to look at regular things. There are some amazing things that girls do with their hijabs! It really is an art, how they wrap and tie and pin. It's dizzying how much fabric goes into some of the styles.
It'd be really cool to see a coord with a cohesive hijab with several different colors and patterns of fabric and using pretty pins and beauty of the fabric's drape. This girl here has the right idea >>7467354

>>7467374
Ah, so you're not what at all. You're just a stupid hispanic whore. You obviously don't have an okay grasp on headscarves done right or wrong, because you keep posting ugly shit.
Hijab done right=hijab not with lolita. Your only good examples aren't in lolita, which proves my point.

>>7467378

Um I'd like to disagree you cunt.

But seriously, stop shitting up this thread. Anything can look good if people are creative enough.

>>7467405
>>you can't criticize hijabs after OP asked you how you feel about them
Liberal cunt logic.

>>7467399
>>I'm actually not even a lolita
Stopped reading there. Why are you here? Go back to tumblr and bitch about racism in lolita, I don't care.

>>7467408
>>Omg, stop arguing with me. Just agree D:<
Bite me.

>>7467414
Not the same anon but /cgl/ is not a lolita-only board.

>>7467406
*white*

>>7467417
Cosplay, lolita, and Jfashion. It's not fashion general. Again,
>>/fa/

>>7467416

Nah man, qi lolita is fairly cool if put together correctly is all I'm saying.

You're conservative, I get it, but you seem to be doing more of the "oh no this isn't lolita agree with me!" shit than I am.

>>7467425
I'm not conservative, I'm down the middle. I also wouldn't call that picture lolita, it looks more like a normalfag dress. You're the one saying I should be banned for telling you the truth.
>>omg u ruined the thread D:<
The point of the thread was obviously debate. And you're the one shitting it up with pictures not relevant to lolita. It's not my fault you're an ita whore who doesn't understand the aesthetics of the fashion.

>>7467364
>>7467389

I am one the fence with hijabs in lolita but you will NOT win converts by comparing or defending wa lolita.

That shit is universally acknowledged as 100% ita outside of cute illustrations with impossible body proportions.

It just doesn't work in real life. Period.

>>7467388
Will do.

>>7467439

Honestly not sure who you think you're talking to anymore, because I didn't say anything about you getting banned. Go ahead, run rampant, I'm just saying some styles if they adhere more to the aesthetic of lolita would actually look good, don't decry it so quickly.

>>7467446

>>7467448
>Honestly not sure who you think you're talking to anymore, because I didn't say anything about you getting banned. Go ahead, run rampant, I'm just saying some styles if they adhere more to the aesthetic of lolita would actually look good, don't decry it so quickly.
I'm just saying I'll post more pics, nothing about banning?

>>7467446
Oh jeez, hats! What a great idea. I love hats. It'd also give some height for balance and provide a foundation to pin accessories. Some of these girls with headbows look a little strange, since headbows are usually to be a little bit nestled into the hair. It's the same thing for girls with thin, straight, flat hair or with very short hair. It ends up just sort of floating on their head.
Pin those bows to a hat, however!

>>7467462

>>7467465

>>7467470
sorry, I thought she looked cute

>>7467439
If that looks like normalfag dress to you, then you're just as crazy as I suspected you might be.
>>7467441
>universally
I don't recall anybody ever agreeing to anything like that. The last time we had a thread like this, the general consensus was something along the lines of "Hijab is okay in lolita, just make sure you don't make it look like shit.

>>7467466

>>7467343
>Wahhhh, someone's liking what I don't like!
Summer already?

>>7467462

I was replying to >>7467439?

Also medieval wimples could be cool. No idea how kosher (or halal, lawl) they are but I think pairing with a crown would give a medieval look that goes with some themed dresses.

>>7467479
Sugarnoor looking less terrible than usual; the chiffon's great.
>>7467470
That is cute! Do you know if that girl has a blog?

>>7467448
>>7467405
Just report and move on, then teh bullies who don't like hijabs will leave ;_;

>>7467476
They were talking about wa lolita when they said universally.

Hatspiration

>>7467470
>>7467472
those unmatching pinks tho

>>7467483
Sandnigger whores would be stoned for wearing something so Christian. Do you see what I mean? It only works if it's European.

>>7467483
That's a good idea. There are so many cute ways to wear hijabs (like with hats) but it's hard to find girls who actual wear them that way.

>Sugarnoor samfagging all over the tread
I'll give her the fact that she encouraged muslim girls to try lolita, but everyone got really good and she's still shit.

>>7467486

>>7467498
Nah, it's because she's kind of the only muslim lolita with a big online presence. I've just been posting the ones that I thought used the hijab in a creative way.
And on that not, I've posted just about everything I have. I'll finish up with a sort of, but not really related cute thing. If you were to fold up the front part of the veil, the fabric would be opaque enough to be fine in most circles, and one could always layer sheer things on top of hijab.

>>7467486
yeah, I found her thru that muslim lolita in the Sugar Coated documentary! Actually, she's >>7466915 http://instagram.com/alyssa_loveskitties

The other girl has better pics of both of them: http://instagram.com/dina_lovesbunnies

Sugarnoor is cute, but she's pretty basic IMO and doesn't have a "chubbier" but more kawaii face structure.

>>7467496
>medival
>christian

That is far away from being christian because the medival age did also exist in arab countries, you know.

>>7466795
Fuck this girl, fuck her ego, and fuck her victim complex.

>>7467476

You misunderstand me anon. When I said
>that's shit is universally acknowledged as 100% ita
I was referring to wa lolita. Like I said it the beginning, I'm personally on the fence about whether hijab works in lolita.

But wa lolita? I have NEVER seen a good wa lolita coord. Qi lolita is tricky but it can be done... but wa lolita is always too bulky to be flattering and is pretty much acknowledged as a beginner or weeb mistake.

Hence why if you want to argue for hijab in lolita don't bring up wa lolita. Thats like saying Chinese lolita brands can be great as demonstrated by Milanoo. Your argument may be right but your example isn't doing you any favors.

>>7467505
Thanks! And yeah, it's amazing how much of a difference face shape makes.

>>7467510
Europe and the middle east had the same culture back then, I guess.

Friendly reminder that in certain countries if a man sees you without your hijab on you're pretty much asking to get gang-raped.
Please keep that in mind when you bicker.

>>7467521
I really hope this is sarcasm. Otherwise, I didn't realise there were people who didn't know about the Crusades.

>>7467526
If you're at risk of being gang raped for not covering your hair I'm guessing dressing like a princess/giant toddler/whatever else normalfags think lolita is isn't on the agenda either. If you're at liberty to dress in lolita then you're at liberty to choose not to cover your hair.

>>7467530
Wow, you're a dumb fuck. Of course it's sarcasm. You really need to work on your critical thinking skills.
>>Post woman in medieval Christian garb
>>Crosses and shit
>>suggest mudslimes wear it
>>You're a retard

>>7467541
This. Dressing like a cupcake isn't modest, and wearing a hijab does not automatically make it so.

>>7467508
If muslim lolitas are down with the hat idea, maybe some hat inspiration would do some good. Both lolita + hat and hijab + hat. Of course, I'm not going to be able to find muslim lolitas with hats.

>>7467554
They can't show hair. Durr.

>>7467549
Different families and regions have different rules; some are more lax than others. One of the girls posted a bunch ITT is probably from southeast Asia and may not be subjected to the stricter rules of how to dress.

I live in the Toronto area and there are plenty of young, trendy-looking Muslim girls who wear bright colours and a lot of makeup with their hijabs. Many choose to wear the hijab while still keeping their looks and wardrobes fairly modern. I think it's interesting to see the variety between more traditional vs. modern wardrobes on local Muslim women.

>>7467554
And here are some classy ladies with the hijab + hat combo

>>7467561
Most of these whores are in Europe (Specifically, England.) So no one is stopping them from taking that stupid shit off their heads and dressing normal.

>>7467562
That......that looks horrible. Mother of god. It's scary how bad that looks, especially the first one.

>>7467562

......no.

I'm sorry but that just looks like straight up shit.

>>7467567
I admittedly don't have a lot to work with in my surface level searches.
I mostly want to bring up the idea of hat + hijab, and then we can move to what hats look good with lolita.
Since the basic principle would be to wear a hijab from the coord's colorscheme with a hat on top. It's not very complicated, but there you go. Visual representations of what that might look like. There's another hijab hat up here >>7467446

omg western lolis are retarded
there are not these stupid rules
go talk to Japanese lolis ffs

>>7467588
Weeb.

>>7467586
So everyone get the concept? Get a hijab and get a hat and put it on top? Any pictures of hat lolitas with their hair down are with the assumption that a muslim girl will wear a complementary hijab underneath the hat? Yeah?
Cool. Let's talk hats.

>>7467593
Show neck plz. It just looks bad without hair hanging down, even short hair.

>>7467487
Oh, okay.
>>7467517
My bad, I completely misunderstood that. I'm sorry.

>>7467597
What about some of the more voluminous hijabs like these ones? >>7467371 >>7467354 >>7467367 >>7467328

>>7467611
Cuter than every picture ITT.

Of course we know Sam doesn't wear hijabs, but if she was wearing a hijab underneath this red scarf, that'd be a look.

>>7467470
SUPER FUCKING CUTE. hijabs can work as long as there is some kind of head accessory to balance out the lower half of the body.

>>7467590
i'd rather be called a weeb
which im not
that have yall fools defile this pure fashion with your bull shit westernization
ugh i guess we should all just resort back to colonialism at this point

this is almost as bad as this girl wearing stripped heels and party attire with her hijab
wheres the modesty people
idgi

>>7466819 Dude, you do know that Islam =/= race/ethnicity, right?

pastel ladies with hats (not lolita)

>>7467646
Oh you mean adherence to outdated religion standards doesn't make any sense? Who would have thought

flower crown on a hijab

>>7467593
With hats I think it'd be best if the hat surrounded the whole head, instead of pinned hats like >>7467596
Since pinned hats need the volume of hair to balance it, and what the aim of hats and hijabs is for the hat to be the thing giving the volume.

>>7467645
>>yall
I guess we should resort to colonization, to keep you stupid sandniggers from ruining pretty clothing with your rag heads. Your the ones who ruin the fashion, take that shit off your head or stfu.

>>7467656
This is strangely adorable.

bigasshat

OP coorded it well, I don't see why not.

Guys.... what if..... THEY COVERED THEIR REAL HAIR WITH A WIG?????????

>>7467715
right?
whats the problem here with this? especially if its just like pink.

>>7467715
>>7467721
Neck.

>>7467715
To some people it'd be like the equivalent of wearing a breast and labia/ass printed bikini to the beach.

Though in that one Sugar Coated documentary the one girl was fine with wearing wigs. It depends on the person and their religious beliefs.

>>This whole thread
I am now more racist than I thought I was, and I didn't think that was possible.

>>7467726
wig and a scarf?

They look stupid and anyone who says otherwise is just trying to compensate because they feel bad for the girls who have to wear them.

>>7467733
Hijabs. They go around the head.

>>7467734
Nah. First time posting itt, and I actually think they look cute when done in a more elegant fashion. I do dislike them in sweet lolita and think most girls who try it end up looking pretty ita, though.

>>7467734
This. This whole thread is just a giant social justice hug box.

>>7467734
idk, it's a religious thing and it just shouldn't keep people out of the fashion. Most (all?) of the examples in this thread are horrid, but perhaps some inspiration can be found to fix it - the hat idea sounded nice.

>>7467734
This. It's sad to see this kind of thread on cgl. Religion doesnt belong in lolita and those head scarves just look idiotic. If you cant wear lolita because of your religion, that's too bad. Stop shitting up our fashion though and looking for asspats.

>>7467784
If head scarves don't belong to lolita, bonnets shouldn't as well because they also have a religious background, not to mention that the coif headwears that the veils that some brands made in the past look similar anyways, don't get me started on nun lolita.

>>7467513

Sounds like you have stories to share.

>>7467784
>religion doesn't belong in lolita
>welp better burn all those religious prints and cross motifs

Hijabs can totally be cute and fashionable. I'm not a fan of sugarnoor's coords at all though. If I couldn't show my legs for whatever reason, I would wear tea-length dresses and boots, not jeans with a nice dress. It looks so awkward.

>>7467804
Bonnets fit the fashion. Victorian children, mother fucker, have you seen them?

Of course! I have seen many beautiful hijabi lolitas. It does not break any of the lolita rules and the hijab can be made quite cute and cooperative with the rest of the coord.

>>7467908
pics or it didn't happen

>>7467563
Many women who wear the hijab want to and aren't forced to. They wear it for religious and/or cultural reasons.

>>7467784
seconding. Muslims already shit up the whole Europe, why can't they stay in their arab countries and leave normal people alone? And shitting up fashions is just... Ugh. Like they are itas because they choose to, not because of lack of knowledge.

>>7468174
>>implying all arabs are muslim/all muslim come from middle east

>>7467728
thats a pretty good analogy you have man

I like how so many of you go on about "strict rorita rules" when trends fucking change over time. I'm not saying hijabs are a trend, but calling them out like they're the worst fucking thing on the planet just because Muh Wigs is a whole new level of retarded. Good coords are going to be good, bad coords are going to be bad headscarf or not. If someone can incorporate it well into a lolita coord great for them! if someone can't well, fucking fine, they get to go into the giant pile of shit coords just like every other shit coord.

Some hijab are cute, 8 times out of 10 they just look pathetic.

It's theologically unsound but we've had this discussion before on /cgl/.

Hijab is about unadorned modesty and no, your classical coord doesn't count. Lolita is about visual style in dress, the display of which is completely antithetical to the idea of hijab.

However, there are Muslims who some even though self-harm is haraam. Also, if you're not a Muslim but need to skirt religious dress laws in your area, I guess "hijab lolita" is the only way to go.

>>7468219
>>who some
WHO SMOKE
(sorry)

No. It's not pretty at all.

That said, i'm not a complete fashion nazi so she should do as she pleases even if it doesn't fit my taste.

I personal don't think that it's as objectively attractive as less-covered-up-lolita, but I don't think there's any reason that should affect someone's behavior. No, it won't be following the fashion's rules, and no, it might not look as nice, but obviously if it's an important part of your religious or cultural values then you gotta do what you gotta do. You can still do your best to look as nice as possible, and enjoy the fun of wearing a fashion you enjoy.

Anything is better than split colored wigs.

Isn't a hijab just to cover up your hair?

Why not just wear a wig then? Or does it ruin your islam street cred if you don't specifically wrap a towel around your face?

>>7468304
It's more than just a veil. There's a spiritual dimension to it, one of unadorned simplicity and denial of external beauty.
As such, this whole combination is hard to grasp from an orthodox point of view. Maybe if you're a secular person living in a Muslim society, it's a matter of necessity. Loli+hijab is still stupid as all fuck.

>>7466785
I think that women wearing hijabs is empowering, just like women wearing nothing at all. Women can wear whatever they want and it doesn't mean anything. Of course, if they are forced to wear hijabs then it's disgusting.

>>7468174
/pol/ pls go home

Aren't hijabs' purpose to NOT draw attention to yourself? to be humbled and whatnot?

seems counter-intuitive.

>>7468316
you can just wear a wig too.
but sometimes you've got one with a cute pattern on it you want to put on.

>>7468516
This sort of reminds me of a Protestant sect in N. Europe. Their rules say you can't watch TV or listen to the radio so they figure the internet is okay, torrenting like crazy.

>>7468516

I think at this point it's just more of a cultural thing, like the way ankles couldn't be exposed during the victorian era but hey, off shoulder sleeves down to the boobs was okay.

The only thing that would make it hypocritical would be them adopting a holier than thou attitude about their covered hair. Having covered hair doesn't make anyone less of a whore.

>>7468516
This is what I was thinking. Lolita aside, even, some of these hijabs are obviously going to be eye-catching, and I've seen some that are absolutely beautiful. Is it about not showing your "natural ornamentation" but something not of your body is fine, even if that thing is incredibly elegant/stands out a lot?

Pretty flowers for spring

Ornate like a bonnet

>>7468563
Nope, it's also a prohibition of any dazzling display. The idea of modern fashion runs counter to the spirit of the hijab, so I'd be surprised if loli were exempt from this.

>>7468642
but loli is dazzling displays

Maybe hair has a strong sexual connotation in those people countries, se without being an overzealous religious modestfag you wouldn't show your hair.

>>7468642
>>7468516
>>7468563
It honestly depends on how devote the area is. A lot of more modernized areas/sects do still have the dressing culturally engrained but the significance of it stops there. It is possible to modernize one's religious/cultural dress.

What the fuck? Why was this post deleted??

>>7468012

>Implying they're not indoctrinated from when they're young

>>7469062
are amish people disgusting then?

>>7466827
Pants under a skirt is retarded. I don't care why you're wearing them, it looks stupid.

She easily could have worn thick tights, or even leggings, and it would have been just as modest. Her ass is covered by the dress. The dress goes to her knees. It covers all the nono bits.

The jeans just look stupid. Aside from that it's really cute.

>>7466882
She looks terrible.

>Normal, looks like men's dress shirt that's giant
>Too big JSK with NO FUCKING PETTI
>shitty sneakers

The hijab is cute, but she looks like a mess.

>>7466911
That looks beautiful. Hijabs really do look a lot nicer with classic and gothic coords.

>>7466915
I don't like how huge the bow looks though. A smaller bow would have looked much nicer, because usually with a bow that big you'd have big hair to go with it.

>>7466999
This also looks really nice.

>>7467082
I agree with you completely, anon.

If they're from a family that will allow them to wear tights under their dresses, go for it. Wear your hijab and be cute as hell. But if you need to destroy the aesthetic of the fashion to wear it, you're not even really wearing it anymore.

>>7467309
This is really beautiful. I wish I could tie my hair up in pretty scarves like that, but all the rednecks would harass me.

>>7467328
>>7467333
>>7467354
>>7467367
>>7467371
>>7467470
>>7468583

Uuuuuuuunf.

>>7467734

I don't even fucking like Islam but I think the hijab is cute. There's no middle ground for people like me is there?

there's a girl in my comm who used to be kind of infamous for wearing hijabs with lolita.
nowadays she mostly wears aristocrat, but to be honest... I kind of want to see her in lolita again. She's got beautiful features. I think hijabs look fine with lolita as long as they're treates the same as any other accessory--color-coordinated and such.

>>7469062

I made a post above stating my opinion on Hajibs in lolita and it was deleted. No cussing or swearing, no provocative trolling or racism. I have no idea what the Janitor/Mod is doing especially when there are OT posts everywhere.

>>7469062
A shit ton of my posts got deleted. I got an 11 hour ban for saying hijabs look stupid. Janitor is on her period.

Reading this thread, then reading the archive made me realize this thread is pointless. You can't state how you really feel about hijabs, because that's racist and your post will be deleted. OP asked how we feel about hijabs, and we can't answer him/her truthfully. It's only racist if it's true.

>>7469062
Some butthurt mudslime cunt is going through the thread and reporting everything she doesn't agree with. May Mohamed rape your daughters in hell, whore.

>>7469577

I even started my deleted post with "Not being racist or anything but.." I have no idea what kind of opposing opinions we are supposed to have, I didn't even think mine was particularly controversial in any such way.

>>7469577
There are plenty of people in this thread who say hijabs are ugly/don't fit the fashion/lolita is not modest enough for hijab. Shitposts with slurs and /pol/ bullshit gets deleted. Also, this is really funny because most people who say "Not being racist but..." proceed to say something racist. Your post was probbaly shit, that's why it got deleted. Read the other opposing posts in this thread if you can't figure out how to follow the rules.

>>7469722
>proceed to say something racist.

But I didn't say anything racist (because guess what, I'm not a racist) I just said that the Hajib doesn't have a place in lolita fashion because it is culturally different. There was no /pol/ shit or racist slur, there are opposing points in this thread far more offensive than anything I said which haven't been deleted.

>>7469722
>Shitposts with slurs and /pol/ bullshit gets deleted.
No random shit does. Your post is OT as fuck and it won't get deleted because the janitor is shit and deletes random shit and bans people for no reason.

Hate the silhouette of a hijab, personally, but I think it could probably look really good in gothic if done right.

>>7469568
/cgl/ is becoming more and more pointless. This is 4chan, jfc.

Fucking sandniggers following me even in lolita.

>>7469882

Thank you.

>hijabs are ugly
>Your post was probbaly shit

These are both far more incindiary than anything I have contributed to this thread. The decisions for deleting posts seems completely arbitrary and now the thread has been derailed as a result.

I'm not going to pretend 4chan is some kind of bastion of free speech but this is just bad moderation; it's not even about an appeal to personal morals, it's about jeopardizing on topic discussion with arbitrary rule enforcement which will then make future threads impossible to have. I'm just going to email moot about this.

>>7467656
wow i never thought i'd think this style is cute

>>7467618
I think that is a really cute idea
>>7467715
>>7467728
Jews can do it, but most Muslims can't
>>7468316
I think that it's the difference between "dressing for men" and "dressing for women". A woman's hair in most middle-eastern cultures is considered to be the embodiment of her femininity and showing it was as sexy as showing a ton of cleavage. So hijab-loli is not immodest in that way, even though it is very showy. It's cute, not sexy.

I don't think they go with lolita simply because of style. Just like a classical loli cream blouse doesn't go with a lavender milky planet OP and a jeans oversize jacket doesn't go with iron gate.

It looks like shit.
But it's their religion and their religion include looking like shit so whatever.

>>7469905
>it's their religion and their religion include looking like shit
i lol'd
I agree, it definitely doesn't suit Lolita fashion at all.

>>7469904
yes, it has nothing to do with men in that area oppressing and controlling all the women. Nope. Not at all. And these women willingly wear them, it's so sad.

>>7469925
And yet women in the west willingly cover their tits and pussies up because those things are considered sexual, wow, who thought cultures could be different. It's so sad!

>>7469928
>missing the point
kek

>>7469930
I know you are, but seriously. Do you really think women in the west dress the way they do for themselves? Do you think it has nothing to do with men? If you do you're the stupid one here.

>>7469937
You know where you are?
Yeah, lolita has so much to do with men, right.

>>7469949
>comparing an alt fashion to mainstream fashion and culturally acceptable sexuality
I see you're just in this to argue, I'll be taking my leave since you never actually entered the conversation.

>>7469937
>>7469962
>women wear gladiator sandals, uggs, the latest "in" miniskirt and ridiculous make-up featured in vogue to please men!
>even though said men claim time and again that they prefer women without make-up and with normal clothing
Even IF they wore it for men, it would still be in order to compete with other women. Stop deluding yourself, the world doesn't revolve around your tiny penis.

what has become of my thread ( -̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥᷄◞ω◟-̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥᷅ )

>>7469937
>but what about the lesbians?

>>7467333
this is really great, but why pink shoes....

>>7469577
I think Lolitas who wear hijab have to work harder to have the rest of their coordinate fit very well into the Lolita aesthetic because hijab are not a very common thing to be worn with Lolita fashion at all. There, opinion on the item itself, not anything else. Racist? No. You could substitute any other garment or accessory for hijab, it's true for anyone who wears something out of the ordinary with Lolita. I feel similarly about peacock feathers and net gloves and stocking.

>>7470005

Did you not fucking expect shit to go down in a thread about fucking headscarves on fucking 4chan, you fucking emoticonning newfag.

>>7467903
Why do people keep thinking only children wore bonnets. Bonnets aren't a children thing, women of all ages wore bonnets.

ITT, stupid things the janitor finds offensive and removes under, "racist trolling." Lets call them hate facts.

>>7470577
Janitor confirmed for Denmark. Only some librul white guilt trash from a nordic country could do shit like this.

>>7470600
Perhaps she's kebab herself. But my money's still on 'SJW cunt'.

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Janitor confirmed for fat Scandinavian social justice cunt. I keep complaining to moot, but he won't answer. :(

Some of these hijabs are just so pretty, I wish I could wear one sometime, but fucking sjws screaming about steelin kulcherrr

>>7471930
Just don't call them hijab and no one gives a fuck, many woman wear head scarves as protection against the sun.

All this thread is proving to me is that hijabs look fucking hideous in lolita. The only nice looking outfits in this thread are just that-nice outfits-but not lolita at all. Hijabs don't fit the lolita atheistic at all, and since they're usually combined with the pants, no neck, etc. It looks terrible. End of story.

If they want to dress that way....sure....but it still looks fucking hideous and I'm tired of this tumblr crap on 4chan. Take your hugbox and go. People don't deserve special privileges and passes in fashion because their religion is holding them back.

reminder to appreciate allah, lest you annoy our janitor

ALAHU ACKBAR!

>>7472205
this.
If your religion says no, stop being a sheep and get out of that religion or choose another fashion

inb4 i get banned by janitor for having an opinion

>>7471949
that's what they are though. If you want to protect your face from the sun in lolita, you can wear a sun hat or bonnet. Hijabs dont belong in lolita. they're hideous, and all i can think of is how oppressed and sad this woman is.