/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Half of my motivation in the hobby is to be a brandwhore dramacow who has a huge coveted closet and is always being gossiped about. I fantasize about what kind of hilarious lies or rumours people would make up about me, and all that delicious jelly.

>>7221211
Are you me?

I am like PT, waiting for my time to shine, not sure if it will ever come.

>>7221211
It works better if you have an annoying online personality and are fat, so everyone wonders how the hell you fit into your dresses and rages over the mental image of you busting the shirring. I mean, if attention is your goal.

>>7221196
I have literally every single print AATP has ever made since 2005, and multiple colorways of my favorites. I don't even like half of them. But it's a collection more than a closet. I stare at them and hang them on the walls like art. I wear one every now an then, but I mostly wear normalfag clothes in public. Never been to a meetup or convention. I have no desire to be known in the community so I'm either going to die with a crapload of burando hiding in my house, or perhaps one day realize I've spent a ton of cash on this useless pile of fabric and make the biggest sales post egl-comm-sales has ever seen.

>>7221211
I'd want that without the drama on my part. If people are saying I've sucked 300 dicks to afford my dresses, but I dress fantastically, I'm perfectly okay with that.

>>7221240
Would you ever post anonymously for egl's wardrobe theme? It would just tickle every pleasure sensor in my body to see your collection. Then fame-chan anon can take the credit and we all win.

>>7221240
mah dick

>>7221211
>>7221238
Brb lolling forever...

Even though I spent tens of thousands on my wardrobe, it doesn't look like i have since I don't buy popular prints for the sake of their popularity , but actually pieces I like, so my wardrobe will never be one of the best or eyecatching because my taste in clothes is rather bland.

I feel like my wardrobe is just medium sized compared to someone's herajika's. She has 65 main pieces or around that number.
I have 40 brand main pieces aka skirts, JSKs, and OPs and nearly all of them are respectable print pieces that I had to hunt for, not just standard lucky pack stuff. I have about 20 brand blouses, boleros, coats, then maybe 15 hair accessories and jewelry and pairs of socks. My wardrobe is gothic/classic. I feel sad a lot of the time about general life stuff, and start making lists to cope. Right when I feel like I might have everything I want, I take closet inventory and my list just doesn't take up as much hand-written space as I thought it would. I know my wardrobe is decent but I just want it to be impressive, not necessarily to other people, but to me. Is that weird?

>>7221245
Maybe I'll post some of it. I'm really paranoid about e-fame (or e-infamy) and don't want someone to trace my name/location through the info stored in my camera's photographs. I posted on /g/ once and they found it out through the picture. That was a few years ago though, so maybe 4chan's new image host hides that stuff. Idk. I do look forward to seeing /cgl/'s closets, though! I like when people have small-medium closets and describe what they love about their favorite pieces, or if ALL their pieces are their favorites. I only really love a handful of my prints, so it makes me happy when someone talks about how happy they are with specific items.

>>7221307
Not true. The wardrobes that get a huge amount of compliments tend to be plain. The huge classic and Gothic posts from last year had tons of fans.

I feel like I'm falling out of the Lolita hobby, even though I still love it and want to wear it. I just don't want to be alone anymore... me wearing lolita scared away all my old friends, and I have never managed to meet a boyfriend, my hobby scares away everybody. The comm in my city is just a tight-knit group of five people who won't invite me to anything, even though I've tried to get to know them. I'm lonely and I don't want to be, so I'm stopping lolita just to try to get friends. I fucking hate my life

The lolitas I meet seem like the nicest people to me, but I can't help but think it's a facade, thanks to all the drama I see online. You know what I'm talking about.

I'm a guy and not a lolita/brolita, btw.

>>7221328
Imgur wipes all your exif data, upload it there first.

>>7221338
Must lolitas I know are lonely spinsters. Yep lolita will scare away people in your life. True story

>>7221328
I assume you're just talking about the pictures metadata, that can be changed I think it doesn't really have anything to do with the host.

>>7221196
I don't have an impressive wardrobe.
But I am babyfaced, stand 5'1" tall and only look about 13, despite being almost 19. I can wear the sweetest of lolita out without seeming like a creep or fetishist and for that I am so fucking grateful.

>>7221305
I don't see why that would be weird. You've got to be crazy and in it mostly for yourself to love this fashion, so the only one you should seek to be impressing is yourself. If you're not satisfied with your wardrobe and have the means, keep perfecting it until you're happy.

>>7221355
>>be me
>>most of your old friends wind up addicted to a hard drug of some sort or turn out to be total asshats
>>too lazy and jaded to make new ones
>>have like 3 good friends, none of whom get along for some reason
>>can't seem to find a girl who isn't weirdly political and has similar interests or at the very least respects yours despite their being different
>>live to far from local comm to go to meets
>>what social life
>>become socially isolated lone lolita
>>have lifestyle tendencies
>>stay at home reading, drinking wine and playing with cats when not at work or having a quiet evening with a friend
>>tfw you don't mind being (mostly) forever alone

>>7221338
I feel you, though my friends are not scared away they look down on it a bit. No boyfriend.
Plus, Lolita in combination with my shy and awkward personality scared away every potential friend at University, haha.

>>7221374
You're me (exept I do not own cats).

My confession is that lolita has become sort of an obsession and coping mechanism for my depression. Starting to spiral downward? Buy a new dress. Feeling angry? Go make a nasty secret about someone. Bored? Hop on /cgl/ and read the newest drama. etc etc
I feel like such a vain and shallow person for relying on frilly clothes for all my entertainment, relaxation, and self-worth. I don't even look very good in them - I'm chubby and have a sharp face. All my friends now are lolitas and all my clothes are lolita or at least loliable/otome. I want to break away from it all for a while so it can be just a hobby again, but I feel like I'll be so lonely and depressed if I don't have something to lean on.

i'm 5'0" and weigh about 108 pounds, with the smallest chest you can imagine. sometimes i wish i had a slightly bigger chest, at least an A cup, but since I started wearing lolita I've learned to love my flat chest. I also kinda want to be a bit taller, but thanks to lolita also, i don't hate being short so much now.

Confession: I'm a bigger girl, but also short at 5'2 and with a babyface. I could probably look very nice in lolita, but I feel hideous each time I wear it. I am lucky enough to not quite look my actual weight/measurements, but all the other chubby/fatties in the fashion make me jealous bc they all look a million times better than me.
tl;dr: im a big pussy crybaby who needs to lose weight, but im trying to deal w mental health issues rn. (one day i will be a kawaii rori)
>inb4 stfu fatty bitch go puke up ur food
i just needed to get it off my chest. thanks for looking/reading.

>>7221437
having a coping mechanism is a good thing, if you are seeing a professional about your depression you could always ask their opinion of using fashion to cope

>>7221464

>>7221437
I'm in a similar position, I feel too depressed to ever do my work and instead make myself feel better by looking at pretty clothes.
I spend more money than i have to spend on clothes to make myself feel better and then I am so poor I just end up feeling worse.

>>7221437

I think I'm somewhat similar, because I've been using lolita and jfashion to deal with my breakup and I've been having the same feeling sometimes. I think it's found me at least new acquaintances that I can discuss things other than fashion about. Don't feel bad anon, and look on the bright side - at least it's an outlet that is viable and makes you happy, right? Also I've found it useful to have several other hobbies besides. I craft and I watch let's plays on youtube (no time to actually play vidya anymore), which doesn't sound like much, but I feel slightly more balanced for all the window shopping I do.

All in all, I don't think relying on lolita is bad at all anon. It sounds like you've opened a new world and made new friends, so I don't count that as a bad thing at all if it's brought you happiness and more social connections.

>>7221374
My problem is the opposite. I'm very political. I love politics and I always have. I can't seem to find any political friends who at least have relatively similar views.

I'm a huge cheapo at heart. I have no money management skills so I buy everything I see and become broke quickly (then I get more money and do it all over again) but everything I buy seems grossly expensive to me. I think paying over $35 for a skirt is wildly expensive and I feel empty inside after I splurge on lolita (or anything else for that matter). I want to buy everything but everything is too expensive and I feel bad when I hear girls say "Wow, she thinks $__ is too expensive for ___. She's so cheap/poor." They're not talking about me directly but it applies to me and it sucks. Only a few years ago did I think "People actually don't find $___ for ___ expensive?" Now it's customary but it still feels strange.

>>7221374
>>>have like 3 good friends, none of whom get along for some reason
>>>can't seem to find a girl who isn't weirdly political and has similar interests or at the very least respects yours despite their being different

Oh god you're me, especially those parts. I don't have cats though.

I'm extremely torn. I'm a guy who wears lolita and from the start I knew my face would always be problematic, but I didn't really care. But recently I lost a lot of weight and now I'm actually a cute boy and I'm really struggling because why waste anymore time being a weird looking girl when I could be a cute boy? But I've already spent so much time and money and I love the clothes themselves...

fml

>>7221715

You could be a brolita. I mean, why not?

>>7221715
You can be both.

>>I really enjoy all the attention/stares/remarks I get when I wear lolita

Duh. That's the only reason women wear lolita.

>>7221672
This made me think of you.

>>7221731

I can't stand when someone's sales post says
>TONS OF BRAND
so you click on it, and there's like 3 dresses and crappy off brand accessories.

>>7221771
That gif describes exactly how I feel too.

>>7221771
>tfw my sales posts say tons of brand
>click it open and there are at least 6 rare dresses and I spent 2 hours writing item descriptions and formatting my post
>buyers PM me saying how beautiful my sales post is
feels so good, man.

>>7221777
it's not a gif...

>>7221781
Yea I noticed that, no fucking idea why I typed gif instead of jpg. It could be because I'm tired as fuck.

I've been trying to get into lolita for quite a long time, but whenever I have a bit of money saved up to go shopping for my first coord, some emergency ends up coming up and I have to tap my savings.

I'm not sure if I am subconsciously nervous about being ita, or if I just have really poor luck. I haven't bought myself any kind of luxury in almost a year though, and I'm sort of high-wired all of the time now.

>post highly sought after dress for trade
>may sell, but unsure. Make an offer
>suddenly, a pm
>"I'd love to buy your set but I don't want to pay more than retail."

Well that's nice you cheap ass but it's worth much more than that. Fucking noobs errywhere.

>>7221992
>my sweat is all over this dress
>it's worth more than it actually is

Top lel.

>>7221995
Get out, plebe.

There are a lot of people in my comm since we're in a large city, but there's an inner circle of itas who make up petty lies and tell others in the rest of the state's comm that we're brand whores and think that off-brand is awful. Not to mention, one of my good friends was selling PC and one of them offered $145.

>>7222004
so tired forgot to add on the ACTUAL confession: my friend made a nasty secret about one of the itas that i found hilarious and now that ita is threatening to move and I feel slightly guilty.
>too tired for life

>>7221995

>>7222004
its nice seeing my images get used

I am a shopping addict and I want to kill myself because of it.

I want to organize an afternoon tea party, since nobody, not even the veterans, of our comm has arranged one for a year... But our comm's membership is well over 100, and afternoon tea costs $40 downtown. I'm afraid that if I do it, I'll get financially shafted by flaky people who end up not going, and that that I will develop unnecessary hate against those members.

I pretty much only like the wardrobe posts for the vintage/handmade/offbrand wardrobes. I already know what the brand releases look like, and I don't care who has them. It's more fun to see things I've never seen before.

I hate to use the word "deserve" because you're entitled to do what you want with your money, but I can't help but feel that people who don't inherently love lolita fashion don't deserve to wear it or own the pieces. I'm talking about the people who are like "I don't get along with my comm so I'm leaving lolita" etc. If you don't love it enough to wear it by yourself and for yourself, you don't really love it and ideally should sell/give your wardrobe to those that can and do.

I really hate myself. I'm so fucking ugly. I hate my height and my face shape. I know I can get cosmetic surgery (I have before, but not as much as I need), and I can't change my manly height. Everything is too short/ill-fitting on me. I am stick thin but it doesn't matter when blouses's bust goes to my neck and ends above my navel and when long-sleeves become elbow-length.
>inb4 gothic/classic
I want to be sweet, sorry... I don't like gothic or classic. I want to be uguu kawaii but I never will be because of my manly height and ugly face.

>>7222004
>PC
What's PC?

>>7221779
>>buyers PM me saying how beautiful my sales post is
I feel like you're talking about me. I've PM'ed people on the comm sales and complimented how beautiful their posts were before.

>>7221718
Because everyone would call him a pedo faggot. Duh.

>>7221464
I don't think you understand how to measure bra sizes.
Cup size = bust (in inches) - underbust/ribcage (in inches).
It does not determine how big your boobs are, okay? Cup size jus determines how much they stick out from the side/how "pointy" they are. I'm an F cup but you'd say I was flat if you looked at me. I have hardly any fat on my body.

I'm a brolita who was introduced to lolita via a BDSM relationship with a girl who was active in a comm. We broke up (still friends) and moved away and now I'm in a different town with a big comm. I actually like lolita for fashion but kink is still an important part in my life. I read FYeahLolita regularly, I own brand and I'm still dorking out about those indie Norse lolita prints someone was posting a while back.

I like the kink community (they're fun people and it's the only place I can wear my brand and not be the weirdest looking person in the room) but I really like Lolita and none of them seem to 'get it'. So I want to have fun with the comm on a purely vanilla basis, maybe someone there shares both of my hobbies already. But if I choose the wrong person to out myself to then I'm suddenly the creepy lolita fetishist. So here I am, not going to meet-ups because I don't wanna freak people out.

MFW

I am 100% against replicas. I'm not referring to print replicas, I'm talking about fucking art theft replicas. I don't give two shits about copyright, but I absolutely hate that fucking itas think my solid colored AP dresses are bodyline because I spent money on solid colored brand instead of prints. I hate prints because I don't want them to be confused with replicas. Most of Bodyline's dresses (I'm not even talking about prints) are replicas, and it makes me mad my com is 98% ita fucktards with only two other girls who are knowledgable about brand. I am not a brand whore. I am just not a replica whore.

>>7222157
My confession:
I can't stand brolitas, faggots, trannies, fetishists, ageplayers, or any of that shit.
I believe girls (BIOLOGICALLY BORN FEMALES) can be lolitas, only only females.
I'm sick of all of these creepy fetishists men who are coming into my comm (whether they be faggots or hetero) and just shitting up the place. I don't go to meets if any of them show up because I don't want people to think of lolita as a fetish. Being seen in public with those faggots or trannies just makes things look bad.

>>7222160

i agree, lolita should be reserved specifically for autistic fat whores

>>7222157
You could just go to meetups and not mention you're into the fetish community? Honestly, I'm pretty sure a lot of lolitas are into that sort of thing, though, just like regular people. It only becomes a creepy thing when it's all you ever talk about or you shoehorn it into conversations where it doesn't belong.

>>7222158
>>7222160
wow you two are the sandiest cunts

>>7222157
I don't think you should go in with the intent of looking for someone to share both hobbies with. Keep them separate, and you don't need to "out" yourself unless you become good enough friends with someone that it wouldn't be weird to tell them. Lolitas are naturally suspicious of guys, because we don't want the community to be used for the benefit of some dude to get their rocks off on, and trying to bring up the fetish thing would seem like you were trying to do that. But if you go to meet-ups normally and don't mention it, it'll go fine.

>>7222160
You would be good friends with Misako.

>>7222178
this exactly. go to meets, find other people to kink with.

I have a confession. I don't understand why any rational, sane woman would be into this creepy, ridiculous hobby. It's like you're all begging to be fetishized and raped by scumbag child molesters. Even worse is how proud you morons are of the dresses and skirts you own. I'm a seamstress and I can tell you I have yet to see ANY lolita outfit that didn't look like cheap CRAP made in a sweatshop.

>>7222184

>all dat b88888888888888888

>>7222184
You're not witty.

Sage for letting you know.

I hate brolitas.

They're just disgusting and most of the time they just go on about how uguutrap they are.
You look like a man in a dress.
You are a man in a dress.

And unless you go through hormone treatment and stuff; You will be nothing more than a man in a dress.

Get the fuck out.

>>7222195
My local brolita is prettier than I am.
Looks great in brand too. Wears it prettily. You just need prettier boys.

>>7222160
I don't really have an absolutely open-hearted and welcoming attitude, nor am I a social justice warrior feelings guardian, but come on.

Fashion is complicated as a way of expression. There's a lot of reasons anyone would want to get into fashion, but the goal is, at least in part, aesthetics. If it looks like lolita, it's lolita, and let's all take a quiet invocation of Astaroth and hope.

I really wish people stopped armchair diagnosing others.

>she's an asshole, must have npd
>she's a major lolcow, must have bpd
>ha ha that guy's a sociopath
>I'm totes bipolar you guise

Just because you read it on Wikipedia doesn't mean you or anyone else has it. It's like people can't be simple, genuine dicks nowadays. I'm sick of salty cunts diagnosing Kooter or Penus with different mental illnesses, grow the fuck up.

>>7222184

>>7222010
Even though your friend is an asshole, if the ita is so butthurt over an anonymous secret on the internet about a fashion that she's going to change residence and all its bells and whistles, then that's a problem the ita needs to address within herself.

>>7221992
I feel you, man. Someone offered me $150 less than what I was asking for and politely told them no, I'd like to find someone willing to pay my asking price but after a week or so I would consider other offers. She took it personally and told me she didn't think it was worth more than retail because I had stated I wore it twice to meetups, and to message her in a week or whenever I decided to sell it. A couple days later, someone PMs me telling me their friend linked them to my post and it's their dream dress and she can pay immediately. She pays, and I carry on a nice conversation with her while the package is already shipped on its way to her. We talk about the reasons we got into lolita and our favorite prints, and again thanks me because ever since she found a picture of X wearing the dress in some publication, she fell in love with it and couldn't believe she found it for my 'very reasonable' price. A few weeks later the cheapskate girl PMs me asking if I'm ready to sell her the dress. I tell her it sold just a few days after I last spoke to her. She never replies back.
>everything went better than expected
Also this began my very positive experience with selling to French lolitas. Every one of them has been so damn nice! It's unbelievable. I'm just waiting to get a sour one, or even just a normal one that doesn't stand out. But every one of them has been incredibly sweet! It makes me happy.

>>7222200
Pics
I have yet to see a convincing brolita

I'm ready to leave lolita because I rarely have time to go to anything at all (adult, working full time, etc) and when I do, my comm is so fucking awkward and boring that I regret putting forth the time, effort and money. Return on investment isn't worth it.

>>7222135
Puppet Circus.
Unless they're talking about a personal computer?

>>7222205
You know that actual students of psychology are warned about this?

Reading or learning about these things makes you compare yourself and your life experiences to them. Same reason horoscopes and fortune cookies work. A critical mind can halt the process.

>>7222214
Please be me a few months in the future. I'm waiting to fall out of love with lolita. I've got this whole adult life with health insurance, financial stability, husband and child, but I still have a modest closet staring me in the face when I get dressed for work.

I go to some meetups and even though I'm much younger than our oldest members (mid thirties with bigger closets and more involvement, but no families), I feel like I have nothing in common with them.

But I can't bring myself to make a sales post yet.

>>7222217
I know, I studied it in college (as in, secondary school, not university) and did a dissertation on it. We were warned about the exact same thing. Worst part is that many people make it a habit without realizing that actual personality disorders are rare and very noticeable. But hey, Pixyteri is weird and fat so let's make her into a mental case too!

I'm not trying to preach social justice or trigger warnings or whatever, just saying it's annoying.

An old friend of mine makes handmade lolita dresses. The fabric prints and details she chooses aren't my style so I never really paid super close attention, but I was browsing some photos today of stuff she put up for sale and the stitching is SO awful--uneven stitch length, snagged fabric, and totally crooked by like a good 1/2 cm in some places. I sew myself and I could NEVER feel comfortable selling such poor quality work, but I don't want to say anything out of fear of embarrassing/angering her.

I know it's one of the older things she's made so I wonder if her sewing has improved.

>>7222205
Oh anon, you made me giggle hard now. Agreed 100% and that jpg was spot on.

I sleep with photographers so they'll do photoshoots of me for free.

>>7222195
Here, here. Brolitas should leave.

And they're all gigantic pussies. Like, holy shit. It makes me uncomfortable how spineless, sexless, and awkward they are.

>>7222254
You'll have better luck with that b8 on a cosplayer confessions thread

>>7222261
>I don't like it
>It must be bait
2/10 for getting me to respond. I can't tell whether you're trying to be edgy or just autistic.

>>7222254
Do photographers actually charge? At bigger meets (30+ people) there's always a photographer but no one pays him.

Confession: I absolutely hate "photographers." They just seem like people who have a very expensive camera and adobe photoshop. I can't stand how unflattering their photoshopped work is. I don't want the contrast upped to 10000x so that I can't see the dimensions in my face. Maybe I WANT to look like a human and not some 2D "doll."

>>7222282
They generally don't charge in the lolita community, nope. Unless you're a themed one-on-one shoot or something, but they're not very common.

>>7222275
Different anon, but I am actually autistic and I don't know if I should tell my comm. People in my comm have talked shit about me on btb (there were 2 secrets about me) and others have PM'ed me telling me I offended them or was being rude to x. I don't intentionally try to hurt people, I just wish they weren't so fucking sensitive. If you ask for my opinion, I'm going to tell you my fucking honest opinion. I'm not going to lie and tell you you look beautiful when you're a fat fucking landwhale (okay maybe I wouldn't say that), but it really bothers me when people ask for input and then get mad when you don't agree with them.

The autistic part is more about things like interrupting, not saying please/thank you when I'm "supposed to," not being able to apologize when I'm obviously correct because someone's feelings were hurt, and for staring/coming off as a creeper.

I've been in DBT for 5 years now, still hardly any improvement. I'm almost glad I'm an autistic fuck because I have no emotions. I don't really care if someone dies or whatnot.

>>7222288
you're doing*

>>7222288
Where can I find a photographer? I don't have a model mayhem account but I'd love to meet a local photographer who isn't in my lolita group. I hate taking amateur selfies because my $200 digital camera isn't as nice as their $2,000 digital cameras. I just want to use their camera, I can do the photoshop and editing myself.

>>7222282
Yeah. Some of them do it for free in order to build up their portfolio but the professional ones (who are any good) will charge. After all, it's a business and they're lending their time and services to you.

I can see what you mean about shitty photographers with cameras and photoshop but the talented ones can work absolute magic. Lighting, lens choice, whatever...it's worth it.

>>7222296
>talented
What do you mean by talented?

So are photographers also digital artists? Just wondering, I've noticed every "studio/profession" photograph is always photoshopped. I mean I can photoshop just fine on my own, but it's the quality of the photo I'd need to begin with.

>>7222294
It's not the camera, it's the photographer and glass. Any photog worth your while would tell you that.
Try coscom, DA, modelmayhem

I'm not sure how I feel about mental disorders. I don't want to advertise it to the people in my comm and I hate having people think I'm stuck up because I don't talk at the very few meets I attend. People think I'm rude, stuck up, or just a plain creep because I just sit back and watch others. I am always alone. I have social anxiety disorder. I don't go to therapy or see a pscyhiatrist because I'm too anxious to even leave my house. I live in my parents' basement (mansion-sized house, they don't pay attention to me) and I don't go to school or work. I don't think I'll ever have a future. I'm too scared to even meet the mailman who delivers my packages every week. I just wait until he drops them at the door step (thank God no one ever pays for signature confirmation) so I can put on my mask and quickly open the door to pick up my package. Going outside terrifies me. I also can't stand it when people say "OH YOU"RE AGORAPHOBIC" no, it's not the outdoors, it's the fucking people, that's why it's called social phobia. Being hospitalized was the best time of my life, I met the most amazing people who I will never see again because most of them moved on to kill themselves or be admitted into a hospital dedicated to residing the mentally ill who can't take care of themselves.

What I can't stand is when people at meets mention how quiet I am. I met two girls who I talk to regularly on Livejournal from EGL-Comm-Sales, but they don't understand me at all. People don't understand social anxiety disorder and how severe it is. They just call me "shy" or that "oh you're just nervous" when it's far beyond that. I can't function or do anything in my life because of this issue, and when I force myself to go out in public, I just end up crying and having panic attacks. I feel like I should just kill myself or become state property.

tl;dr I have severe social phobia and I'm not doing anything in my life other than buying dresses and I should just go die or become state property.

My biggest fear is having people find out who I am in real life and my Livejournal account. I don't sell on the Facebook Lolita Sales in English comm because my only feedback is my EGLfeedback, and I never want people finding out who I am on Livejournal. I also don't sell to people in my state for this reason; I don't want people to find out who I am online as I am offline... If that makes sense.

>>7222316
So even with a shitty camera you can still take "professional" photos? Please explain???! What do you mean by glass? Sorry for sounding so noobish. I just want to take nice photos so I can practice photoshopping them and making myself look pretty.

I am the biggest attention whore you will ever meet, I swear.
My biggest dream in lolita is to be featured on "People of Walmart." I can't stand that the only lolitas ever featured are fucking ita as hell or just fat and/or ugly as fuck. I'm thinking about having someone take a photo of me at Walmart (while I'm looking at microwaves or vacuums or some shit) with my phone so I can post myself on People of Walmart.

>>7222289
>autism speaks

No really, you need to learn tact and manners. Etiquette can be learned with autism. Looks like your refusal to participate in normal human interactions has already cost you friends.

>>7222324
By glass I mean lens, and any camera that isn't a point&shoot or phone camera (even though a lot of those can be good, too) does great with the right lens. Canon SLRs for example have a lens commonly referred to as the "nifty fifty", which is insanely cheap but works wonders for photographing smaller objects and details. And even with the kit lens you can manage to get some very nice photos, if you use it right. Most important things in a photo IMHO (excluding the camera model and lens) are first and foremost lighting and setting. If you light the subject well and compose the photo well, everything else will fall into place. Quality of the equipment helps certainly, but it isn't crucial, as long as your photo is focused right. Hope that helps a bit :)

I'm quitting lolita and selling all my brand. It took a long time to come to this realization, but lolita is not about 'fashion' and it's not about 'expressing yourself'. It's about what you can acquire.

I'm so tired of people being judged because they don't have the build of a 16 year old japanese girl. I'm tired of 'ita' threads. Hint: We all look like 'ita' idiots to anyone who isn't into this elitist shit.

I'm embarassed I was into this.

>>7222158
+1 THANK YOU ANON

>>7222211
Yeahh... No. Some French lolitas are shit. Maybe they are noobs but wtf repeated backing out of sales AFTER you kept shit on hold under your name for weeks and left pp address. Fucking blacklisted her ass.

>>7222322
I wish I were you and kept my identity a secret. I regret meeting these fucking bitches Irl or got involved with Lolita drama. I seriously hate the girls here. I'm just here for the fucking burando.

>>7222359
Everything you said is correct. But bitch, sell your shit so I can have it.

>>7222106

That's why you make sure they pay you before you confirm the booking. This is what my comm does now because of a few flaky shitheads.

I know what I am doing when coordinating for others, but the second I try it with my own wardrobe I suddenly don't know how to make a good coord anymore.

>>7222377
I regret giving people I know IRL my tumblr account. Keep your online and real life separate!

>>7222348
Sorry for the delayed response, but this helps a lot. I know 4chan in general is against emoticons, but you really made me feel less like a stupid retard when you added the smiley face and I actually did smile after reading this. You are so nice and friendly. c:

>>7222377
Are you Pengu/xnewsaddictedx or whatever?

>>7222398
I'm trying to do this, but am horribly googlable- if anyone looks up "[first name] [state] [lolita] tumblr" I'm screwed.

>>7222409
I don't put my real name or location (I only put my country) on my blog. I don't even use my real name on my Facebook. To be honest my biggest fear is whitepages.com. Granted that the person isn't living in a shitty apartment, all residential addresses within the US is logged on whitepages, and I'm terrified of people finding out my real name because they'll be able to find out where I live. I know there's no way to unlist my address (as it's a public record) like I can with my landline, but can anyone suggest what to do in keeping my identity secret? I'm also aware of partner or third parties (spokeo, peoplefinder, etc) selling information and I'm terirfied of having stalkers. I know it sounds silly but there are a few neckbeards who found out my name through reverse images and are online-stalking me.

>>7222332
Walmart is for plebs and the poor

>>7222205
I love it when I see animal macros I posted being re-used on this board. I have a secret master plan to make animal reaction images more abundant amongst seagulls, so use them when possible. It brightens my day.

>I love wearing lolita
>I love having sex in it
>I am male.

>>7222447

do you bottom or top?

pics?

>>7222447
I agreed with the first two parts of your message. Unfortunately, I am female and disgusted by you faggots or trannies violating my fashion.

>>7222212
Not that anon but...

H... How do I do? ;_;

>>7222450
I do both but I'm typically bottom.

Sex with another loli while we're both dressed up is the most amazing thing ever, too.

>>7222447
Cutie pie.

>>7222458

PIX PLOX

>>7222464
Maybe it's already posted in this thread...
And maybe I'm incredibly fucking obvious... Please be gentle.:(

>>7222452
You're cute. I would like to see more full on gothic Lolita and less make up/better applied make up.

>>7222452

Not bad IMO. I can't comment on the clothes because I don't know a lot about it. But your wig looks fine. Makeup is kinda heavy around the eyes. Is smokey eyes a lolita thing? I feel like there should be less shadow on your lids. Contour your nose more and lips IMO should have a crisper edge (I'm not saying draw a line with a sharpie or something).

TL;DR I think you look pretty good. More effort than many lolitas I see posting on here.

>>7222464
Maybe it's already posted in this thread...
And maybe I'm incredibly fucking obvious... Please be gentle.:(

And yes, I fail with spoiler tags tongiht.

>>7222466
I'm still learning. My biggest problem is my stubble. I'm pretty pale and don't tan easily, meanwhile my hair and stubble is INCREDIBLY dark and shows through fucking everything, no matter how close I shave. I've tried a few things, some worked better than others, but I have recently been told there is such thing as beard concealer. I must find this mystical substance.

But thank you though! I will stop being lame and posting irreverent stuff in this thread now.

>>7222452
Well the clothes are nice.

>>7222468
Honestly, I would love to just put myself down infront of a group of lolita and let them have their way with me. Er, makeup wise, I mean. I think it would be a great learning experience, and would help me learn some tricks about doing a really good job making myself more girly. The girls I know who help me already have done wonders, but just having more input and ideas is always helpful.

>>7222452
youre not a very good lolita but you do make a hot chick.

>>7222452

May I suggest watching some makeup tutorials on youtube? Specifically, drag makeup? I know many people are freaked out by it (for whatever reason) but seriously... some of them are fucking wizards with makeup.

I think lolita would pose a very unique and difficult challenge for a dude. Another anon suggested contouring your nose - that's a drag tip and I agree. You should create highlights around your cheekbones and eyes as well. I wouldn't contour the cheek though. Looks too drag-y for lolita... i'm rambling

>>7222319
I know how you feel, though I have an extremely different problem. I've stopped even trying to explain my behavior to anyone, because at best people think I am a basket case that belongs in a hospital(I never have been, but I'm staring down the possibility as of late, and I might be safer in there compared to out here) and at worst they start spreading rumors about me, or even trying to come to my house in the night to break my shit or kill me.

I'm not after violence anymore, so I'm terrified of being involved in any community whatsoever. I can't even go outside without some kind of disguise because people might recognize me.

There's so many people who want me dead at this point that I've deeply considered suicide just so they don't have to get themselves in trouble with the law to see me die. Not something I would like to do, but one person dying for everyone is at least noble, right...?

>>7222472
Using green concealer before applying foundation can help with the dark stubble.

>>7221238
That kind of fun is short lived.
If you are somewhat pretty, the ragin' goes on forever.

>>7222481
That's one of my biggest fears when doing makeup -- Looking drag-y. That's not what I want AT ALL. I've tried the contouring stuff before but it's... Never really worked out that well for me. Maybe the tutorials I've seen have just sucked, or maybe I'm using the wrong makeup, I don't know. Have any youtube channels you'd suggest checking out?

On a slightly related but amusing note, while looking up tutorials, I once found a tutorial for women on how to look like drag queens. I ... Didn't understand why someone would want to do that...

>>7221342
Yeah, same, they always seem nice but I keep thinking they're hiding something. i cant feel comfortable around them.

>>7222491
A green concealer before foundation? Huh... The last trick I tried, was one someone suggested -- Use orange lipstick after foundation but before concealer. I'll have to give this a shot. Thanks, anon.

>>7221307
Funnily enough the one and only time I dared post a photo of my wardrobe was on CGL with full knowledge I'd be under their scrutiny after feeling like a bit of a masochist, yet I got complimented despite the fact my wardrobe is mostly plainass dresses you wouldnt know were brand. There are more of us plain-os than we think!

>>7222493

It isn't much of a tutorial - he doesn't talk you through the steps - but one of my favorites is Billy B doing Dida Ritz's makeup. Dida looks fucking fabulous (until they put that rat's nest on his head). Billy B's other tutorials are pretty great too.

There's a lot of finesse involved. And there are many different drag 'styles' I guess? If you care to investigate, a queen like Willam uses a lot less makeup than, say, Raven - it's a different kind of look they're going for.

I just suggest you watch and learn, pick up some tips - after all, drag queens are doing makeup to feminize a man's features. Makeup for biological women is completely different.

And don't hate - I'm a woman and I love doing crazy, drag-y makeup on myself ;)

>>7221355
>>7221338
im feelin you guys
>be me
>havent seen guy i really like in forever
>decided one morning to fuck ever meeting up with this elusive lone wolf guy or legitimately anyone who could get past my awkward shyness and just wear my lolita despite the cock block it is out of defeat
>bump into crush that day
>cock blocked

>>7222452

one problem i see is that you have a lot of shadow on your eyes and i don't think you're wearing fake lashes - the result is that it causes your eyes to look 'sunk'. you'd need some pretty effing huge lashes to counter-act that much shadow.

ps i'm not trying to be mean, i think you have a lot of potential and are doing many things right

>>7222504
Ehe, I'm sorry, I did not mean to offend. Feminine features and qualities are just so breathtaking to me, it just strikes me as odd that someone would want to deviate and change something so beautiful. But then, beauty is in the eye of the beholder right, so It's not my place to say what is and isn't pretty, I guess!

Thanks for giving me some names to check out, I'll take a look later on, perhaps at work if it's slow!

>>7221672
lol this actually reminds me, except the other way round
$150 for a dress is"average" price to me yet when i go shopping i refuse to pay full price for appliances and food and shit
like fuck paying $5 for a fucking coffee or $3 a bottle of chilled water yet people throw that cash out anywhere and still leave the bottle half full

>>7222507
Actually, I'm wearing false eye lashes in that picture. The quality just isn't very good so you can't see them. I have super dinky tiny eye lashes and they suck so I have to wear falsies, which... Is kind of a pain because I am super finicky with my eyes.

I don't typically wear that much eye shadow when I do lolita, that's just kind of my go-to picture because I think it's one of the better ones. Then again I'm pretty hypercritical of my pictures, so I have trouble posting them... I can tell you're not trying to be mean though!

>>7222017
clothing isnt perfect just because you washed it
each wash is a damage to the dress, just like as soon as you buy a new car and chuck it on the road, the price deminishes. im aware OP states "highly sought after" but it doesnt mean every mazda 121 is gonna appreciate in value like a 60s corvette, so same is most dresses.

>>7222127
me too anon.
ugly as fuck, i still got this ugly squarish face shape with deeply embedded laughlines people 10 years older ought to have. tall as well. and i feel every single day i've aged a bit more to ever try be kawaii uguu sweet. i dont associate with classic or gothic at all.

we can be ugly and tall together and it will be ok

>>7222491
???????????
why the fuck green?
green concealer is for hiding redness, not grey/green/blue stubble

>>7222516
You must be high if you think you're going to get Nordic blue Lotta, or Iron Gate, or Puppet Circus for retail, even if it has been worn 100 times.

TEN YEARS OF LOLITA
ittybittycloset

I am a heterosexual man and secretly like lolita because I like pretty frilly delicate things

>>7222534
I know those feels exactly. I own about five main dresses with two pairs of shoes. I'm hoping my new job will help me.
(Also deals on yjapan ;( )

>>7222523
Different anon, but I think that is incredibly stupid. At least with an old car you can change the parts that are broken and make it better. But with an old dress it will only start looking more worn. I get that a dress that is sought after will be more expensive then a dress everyone and their mother has. But I think it is ridiculous to pay $1000 for Lotta Nordic Blue just because it is rare. That is worth more then it ever was and that shit just doesn't work that way with dresses in my opinion, because the condition isn't staying the same or getting better.

>>7222214
>>7222221
see>>7222125
just sell it to people who will love it.

>>7222452
Still recognizable as a dude. Try angling your face slightly downwards in pictures to minimize your jawline.

>>7222289
Don't make excuses. I'm an aspie and I always mind my manners. Lrn2 self awareness and objectivity

>>7222542
Clothing and cars are different, though. Look at any high end clothing brand (and don't give me that "but Lolita isn't high end!" spiel. You know what I mean.). These numbers are just off the top of my head, but say you have a Louis Vuitton dress from the last two or three years. It may be 2000 dollars. A 'vintage' one, just thirty years old or so, could cost double that, easily.
You're right, the condition of it doesn't stay the same, and it doesn't get better, but that's usually not what people are searching for with these kinds of things. It's more of a prestige of even having it. When something is made in a limited quality, that instantly makes the price go up. Most cars aren't limited, so even if they're old, you're not going to see their prices skyrocket like you do with fashion, until they're maybe fifty years old, or however long it takes for that car to become extremely uncommon.

>>7222289
You're a sociopath m8. DBT will do you shit. That craps for trauma victims.

>>7222452
Take the arm sleeves off and learn to apply make up better and you'll be fine. You look like a tom boyish girl as is

>>7222289
>I should be able to say what I want and if they get offended it's their fault!

That you, ifwinterends?

>>7222319
Why are you not able to be hospitalized?

>>7222559
Doubtful. Just because someone says they 'don't have feelings' isn't really enough evidence to jump to that conclusion, IMO.

>>7222557
>A 'vintage' one, just thirty years old or so, could cost double that, easily.
Or it could cost like twenty bucks if you find it at a cheapass thriftstore that doesn't give a damn. Fuck yeah.

My confession is that everything in my wardrobe that isn't from a lolita brand is something from a thrift store that I altered. All my burando jsks are bought directly from the webshop because I have issues with buying things online, but my blouses and shoes etc. all belonged to little old ladies who may well have died in them, and I don't care. However my comm is very "eww second-hand is so groce why would anyone do that eww sweat and cooties" so I lie and tell everyone I made them myself or got them from super secret indie boutiques.

>>7222584
>I have issues with buying things online FROM OTHER PEOPLE
is what I meant, durr

>>7222359
For you maybe. If you don't like it for what it is then get rid of it so people who love it can have it.

>>7222523
>"im aware OP states highly sought after"

Even though you were hyperbolic, 10 wears and the dress is going to wear down. You dont think you see it, but even if the colour doesn;t run and there's no stains, the fibers dissipate. It's not fucking like it was anymore so a regular ass brand dress you don't just keep at our above retail, you charge for what it's usage amount is worth.

>>7222584
Why are you scared they'll know you second hand? I mean what is the worst they'll do, not want to touch you? Because if so, they're shit fucking company and I hope you're aware of that. That's how kids in elementary and high school think about 2nd hand.

anyway just realised, everything but my bodyline shit and half my shoes are 2nd hand, go figure...

>>7222158
I know right...
Though in the long run if the dress is still cute who cares really, you love it and what other people know (or dont know) about how much you spent doesnt matter.
But yeah, the way I've combatted this is have every other accessory and brand piece have labels on them ie my AP handbags, my Meta cardigan, BTSSB umbrella, whatever, so they'll have to assume the dress is brand too.

Male ouji here, I wish I had more lolitas friends or a really close lolita buddy. Stuff like drinking (tea or alcohol), eating sweets, talking about coords or even wearing some on a casual outing, I wish I could do more of that with people who also think the fashion is beautiful. It is a bit hard for me to relate with normal people since I feel like they dont understand, but lolitas... I feel like they understand me and often their interests match up with mine.

Im no brolita, but with brolitas, I can see why they would want to wear those dresses. Mens clothing looks very boring and plain to me while womens clothing seems to have all the fun pieces.

>>7222618
Is there a local lolita comm where you live? Or try an anime convention as some of them have lolita fashion panels and such. Maybe try starting there. It won't be hard for you, really. Ouji is super cute and it's bound to attract a lolita or someone into that fashion.

>>7222584
>>7222599
This sort of thing kind of scares me. I got into lolita wanting to express myself(as a matter of fact, it works well) and one day make a nice dress, not to spend all day fawning over some fashion designer's new label.

Am I in totally the wrong fashion?

I think that lolita who get insulted in the street on full daylight must be doing it wrong. People always stop me to say how pretty I am and how they love my clothing.

>>7222635
I agree with you, but I think the nature of the comments you get also depends on the area you're in.

>>7222158
Gonna be honest, I don't mind replicas. I have one. It's actually really nice, and I like it better than the original. (I really hate the material that the original is made of, but it's such a beautiful design.)

To be fair, it's sort of a generic looking design, though.

But, the company that made it specifically stated that it was a replica. I only really have issues when they try to pass it off as their own original design. They give credit to the original designer, and that's what matters to me.

I also only really like the idea of replicas when the original dress is completely sold out. In that case, the replica isn't really taking away the business from the original. Unless they decide to re-release, but buy the time that happens, the REPLICA is usually sold out, so everything sort of works itself out.

>>7222639
Yes, I have to agree that being in "safe" our artistic area is the best. I live by Chinatown and every body is a true sweetheart

>>7222639

Funnily enough at the last meet we were talking about how different comments would be in another city just because it was full of dodgy people vs. the ones we get in this city. So I agree with you.

I feel sort of bad for all the lolita in small towns because generally, unless you're a weird hippie/college town, you're going to stick out like a sore thumb and get hammered down with stares and comments.

>like my old town

>>7222635
>>7222639
It really does depend.

I live in a rural college town, so I get a big mix of reactions.

There are the douchebags and prissy bitches who sneer and laugh, and then there are the normal, decent people who either compliment if they like it, or say nothing if they don't.

If I wore it out to the mall (whch is in the city, about 20 miles away) I'd probably get some really great reactions from the Hot Topic mall goths, and some really terrible comments from the inner city hoochie mamas.

I really hate rockinghorse shoes.

They are the most disgusting lolita relted shoes to ever walk this earth. They're plain, and ugly, and nobody ever ties them up the right way.

I fucking hate them.

>>7222647
I like them, just not really for most Lolita. Some gothic cords look nice with them. But the straps should be a nice ribbon

While I think they look gorgeous on the hanger, I haven't seen anyone who pulled off a mm op out jsk( the type that always have shitty replucas ).
Maybe it's because I'd the crappy replicas or I haven't seen a good coord with one, but every work photo I see makes them look dumpy and cheap or they simply don't pull it off

>>7222160
wow are you me? I just don't understand the brolitas in my comm (who are total itas including beard and leghair), they make everything wierd and I just want an all girl meeting.

My love for lolita is currently battling my desire to find a bf. I wear it fairly often at uni, but I feel like it really scares off any dudes that might be interested in me since it tends to attract some creeps/anime club neckbeards. kind of thinking about taking a break from wearing it around campus and going to some further away meets.

I have always used lolita to feel better about myself. Now that I'm slowly falling out of live with the fashion (and hating myself for not being able to save up money), I start to realise how horrible depresed I actually am.
I was able to hide it for 4 years but I can't take it anymore. I want to be done with the fashion and not need it to make me feel happy. I want to be able to save up money and not spend it on all those dresses, but without it I have no idea what I should do. I have no other hobbies or interest and I feel empty.

>>7222670
If it can makr you feel better, I've found all my boyfriends while wearing lolita, usually because they were a least a little bit interested in japan/geeky stuff. You just have to pick the right one.

>>7222670
i found my boyfriend while wearing lolita. He isn't into japanese things at all and thought I was wierd in the beginning.
But he liked me and was oke with all the frills.

So I believe when hes really into you, he won't be a scared little boy.

>>7222670
What makes you think you're not a creep/female anime club neckbeard attracting your own kind?

why do people title their sales as "leaving lolita sales"
but they arent actually leaving, whats the deal with that

>>7222670
I met my boyfriend while he was wearing lolita. Well cosplaying Mana, so not quite the same thing.

>>7222500
Relax anon, no one cares that much about you lol

>>7222701
Yeah I hate that. Bunch of liars. They're like when stores write 'close out sales/going out of biz' all over their store. Lo n behold their shop still standing months later... Liars. bunch of liars.

>>7222289
1. You can learn to not be an asshole, and if you don't try then you are just an asshole, autism isn't an excuse

2. While you're learning to not be an asshole, you should mention to them that you are autistic and that you're trying to learn so they can not be assholes to you

>>7222412
you can request google take down search results- usually if the page has changed, but I think there is a privacy option.

I just googled my name and deleted whatever shit came up. I couldn't remember my password on a couple of old accounts, so I just emailed the site admin and had them take it down. Slight verification issues, but they saw that the accounts hadn't been logged into for years so it wasn't a big deal

>>7222489
just do it.

>>7222630
No, you're not. Just keep doing what you like most! To each their own.

>>7222557
I see your point Anon, although I still wish it wasn't like that. I love Lotta, but i would feel so guilty to spend $1000,- on it, especially if it has been worn multiple times by someone else. Again I would understand a second hand dress that is rare to be more expensive then one that isn't and maybe go for the new price, but way over the new price feels kinda ridiculous to me. Maybe I can accept this thing more when it comes to vintage pieces of high end fashion, because everything they make are rare and for a certain public that can spend the money on it, while lolita brand tend to fluctuate with pieces that come in mass and pieces that don't.

>>7222584
tell them how stupid they are, and explain how you're saving money and the planet by not being a wasteful dickhead.

>>7222671
Go get tea with your friends, take up crafts or art so you have something to produce, learn to bake/cook. I completely understand. I've been using this fashion as a coping mechanism for my depression for 3 years as well.

Come with me to Disneyland, anon. We will run away and start our lives anew.

I wish I had a lolita ~bff~ I could be a bitch with. Gossip, giggle at lolcows and ita uggos. Way too shy to talk to anyone tho. ;_;

>>7222452
Slightly different make up.

But to be honest, I just clicked the pictue without looking what it responded to, and thought you were a (cute!) girl asking for critc on her first goth coord or anything...

So small improvements could be made but 8.5/10 I was convinced until I read the conversation.

>>7222467

So you're the >>7222452 anon?

9/10 would do you

>>7222760
I have one of those, it's amazing. I highly recommend it.

>>7222160

As a guy who wants to be a brolita (And look good in my future brand ) I love reading crap like this since I find it to be so encouraging. Don't be mad when I end up looking better in frills than you.

>>7222760

Mee too anon, me too.
Mostly because it would be nice to hve someone with the same interest as you and whom you can talk about the fashion, brands, trends, exchange wardbrobe nd stuff like that...

>tfw comm has been inactive for years
>tfw no cute loli bff

I would give my liver for an aristocrat boyfriend,who treats me how I dress. I‘m also okay with an aristo best-friend.I just want someone to share the whole lifestyle silliness with...and a nice classy penis.

>>7222760
I do that with my boyfriend. He's not into lolita but he grasps the rules and appreciates the aesthetic. He also agrees that fattychans shouldn't be stuffing themselves into brand cause it just looks ugly.

>>7222817
I don't have a classy penis, but I could be your pal?

>>7222559
You stop that.
>>7222205

I wish I had a badass posse of well-dressed gothic Lolitas in my area and closer to my age to hang with me. Ideally, one of them will eventually become my super-elegant girlfriend. It would also be fun to have one or two members that are newer and can be our style proteges that we take under our elegant gothic lolita aristocratic vampire romantic wings.

Which brings me to my next confession:

I love the outfit threads on here and the one where people were posting their body types and etc. was awesome. I wish more people in the community had that kind of attitude towards improvement and were willing to change for the sake of looking better instead of b'awwing about how they don't care if other people think they look horrible it's ~*their style~* and they can do what they want. I'm all for wearing want and being happy, but I still cringe to see girls dropping a ton of dough to look bad. I'm one of those optimists who thinks nearly everyone can look good in Lolita (it's some will have a harder time finding wardrobe pieces than others) and hate to see what I feel like is wasted potential. Everyone deserves to look their best.

>>7222211
Something similar happened to me too.

Some dumbass on the comm sales told me she wanted to buy my dress. I gave her the total with shipping she threw a fit, even though it was what, $15 or so? I pointed out my terms which clearly said shipping not included and to ask before committing if interested but she obviously didn't read that. We argued for days (well she did, I stood firm) and she finally backed out.

Then the same day she backed out, another girl messaged me asking to buy it but with free shipping. The LJ had just been created that day. Lolnope. I told her I was not accepting offers yet.

A couple more days pass and a sweet girl buys it for my asking price PLUS international shipping, so a pretty hefty charge. I sell to her, all ends well.

Excessive (and annoyingly rude) haggling is a waste of everyone's time. Fucking entitled buyers.

>>7222195
I hate the term brolita. We should all be lolitas if it is done correctly. Obviously guys (and girls) who look like a hot mess should not be called such.

Something similar happened to me too.

Some dumbass on the comm sales told me she wanted to buy my dress. I gave her the total with shipping she threw a fit, even though it was what, $15 or so? I pointed out my terms which clearly said shipping not included and to ask before committing if interested but she obviously didn't read that. We argued for days (well she did, I stood firm) and she finally backed out.

Then the same day she backed out, another girl messaged me asking to buy it but with free shipping. The LJ had just been created that day. Lolnope. I told her I was not accepting offers yet.

A couple more days pass and a sweet girl buys it for my asking price PLUS international shipping, so a pretty hefty charge. I sell to her, all ends well.

Excessive (and annoyingly rude) haggling is a waste of everyone's time. Fucking entitled buyers.

>>7222211
Woops, >>7222907 was in reply to this.

>>7222902
Ugh I know. I know certain countries have terrible fees and customs and shipping costs a lot, but I feel like that comes with the territory of ordering online. I can't stand it when people try to lowball me, offer me shit I don't want, beg for free shipping/whatever. I already mark most of my items below market value because I want to sell quickly and I hardly own any prints/sought-after pieces. So my sales are already comparatively cheaper than most others. Forgive me for not wanting to mark off an additional 20% and give you free shipping AND mark the item as a gift/below its original value even though it's illegal to do that where I come from.

>>7222917
The buyer was also in the US, so she was just being a ruddy cheapskate. If you can't afford shipping on a $250 dress, don't buy the dress?

I wish in the rules there were better Buyer guidelines, such as to remember sellers need packing materials, shipping fees, and sometimes payment receiving fees if they would like to pay with paypal. That all adds up for expensive dresses.

>>7222907
+1 you fucking win, anon

I hate when sellers charge the buyer with paypal fees. The seller is the one supposed to pay them, I really don't understand why so many people do this.

>>7222907
>>7222917
>>7222928
I love telling this story - I was selling a fucking $20 discontinued bodyline skirt on the facebook group, and as happens every time I sell something for less than $50, some Europoor inquired about it and offered me $23 shipped. Shipping to her podunk country was $24. I politely refused and then (here's where it gets super poverty) she offers a payment plan "if she can get her friends to lend her some money". Bitch if you can't afford $44 you can't afford the skirt, don't beg your friends for money for it. I wasn't desperate to sell, it just doesn't fit in with my wardrobe well, and I told her it was no longer available.

>>7222755
thank you for the sweet advice anon. I really hope leaning a craft will help.
I would love to run away to disneyland together! Thank you for making me laugh.

I hope you will be alright and you don't need lolita as much to be happy.

>>7222936

I'm >>7222907.
Honestly, the fees should just be split. We are both using a 3rd party to regulate the transaction. That is what I do when I sell. It costs me no money if you send me a check or money order, so why should I pay $10-$20 and have no rights in the transaction? (Paypal obviously favors buyers so imo the buyer should pay the entire fee since it is their insurance, but another decent option is splitting fees.)

>>7222369
Rosaire just shut the fuck up.

I hate making enemies with people who dress in the lolita fashion. I don't do anything to actually make them angry but they just find reasons to hate me. I act civil, I don't give them bitchy looks, and I mind my own business. I dress myself appropriately so i'm not ita.

But what really kills me is their reason to make fun of me. The only thing that escapes their mouth is "lol she's fat as fuck". I gained weight because I eat maybe a meal a day, I spend all day sitting down and working on my projects. I'm stressed out that they keep coming back into my life no matter how much I try to ignore them and keep them away. One of them thought it would be fun to mouth off about my stupid fat ita ass to my roommate.

I'm just sad that I have to fight this single petty reason. I'm not pretty. I have huge linebacker shoulders, i'm tall, and i'm fitting in borderline plus sized clothing. I've been trying to keep my weight down by eating at least two meals a day instead of one, walking, and jogging. I spend a lot of time to look my best in lolita and improve my self esteem but I guess being fat makes me the ugliest ita creature in the world.

>>7222936
What's worse is when they don't tell you until they've sent the invoice, and then you can't back out without getting a negative feedback or getting some guilt trip ("I need this money to pay for my car/rent/food/medical costs/whatever!").

>>7222951
I know that feel, sis.

>>7222947
Wut, that wasn't me, obsessed-chan.

Forgive me, Mana-sama for I have sinned. It has been two of these threads since my last confession.

I still have a hard time getting over the 'Bodyline is not brand' mentality that was hammered into my head back when I first got into Lolita. More importantly, I refuse to buy it (even second hand), because I can't get past how creepy Mr. Yan seems. For all I know, Maki and Askua could get up to shit worthy of their own Criminal Minds episode, but Mr. Yan's sketchiness is just out int he open for all to see. It really has a negative impact on their image as far as I'm personally concerned.

I don't think the 'I'm too big for brand but want cute prints so I buy replicas' argument holds much water these days. There are so many indie brands and Taobao shops (Especially Infanta as of late) coming up with cute, non-replica prints in a variety of sizes.Trust me, I get it. I'm obsessed with MMM but can't fit into a lot of their stuff. There isn't really a market for gothic replica prints, but even if there was, I personally wouldn't buy from it. I just get what I can wear because of my love of the brand and go without the pieces I can't fit into. Indie designers, Taobao shops and other brands that release roomier pieces with a similar aesthetic? You bet your boots I'll buy those.

Does that mean I'm against replicas? No. I don't even judge people for wearing them. I just think that particular argument isn't as strong as it once was. If you want to wear replicas, wear replicas. (Obviously not to a brand event.) The fact that people even have to explain themselves for doing so is also ridiculous.

>>7222946
I always just add them into my price, and then mention that I'm paying the fees. It works out well usually.

>>7222760
Lol I have one of those! Be careful, though. We feed off each other's enthusiasm to the point where we end up blowing over a thousand bucks on a combined shopping service order and then sit back like "wow, what the fuck did we just do" and "holy shit i just blew my whole paycheck". It's all fun and games and burando til someone ends up with an empty bank account! ...But then the package arrives and we feel like pic related.

>>7222951
>>7222956
That sounds really shitty, Anons. I'm sorry that people are acting that way.

But cheer up! There are plenty of girls with your body types that look great in Lolita. If you ever want help, post in the coord threads we have on here. Myself and a couple of other anons love doing complete style overhauls on people right down to body type, coloring and facial features.

Keep working hard and improving and you'll look better. Maybe those bitchy girls you know will still talk shit, all the good genetics and all the brand in the world can't fix the fact that they're complete and total cunts.

>>7222936
If the seller states in their terms of service that their prices don't include paypal fees, I don't see a problem. It's just a few dollars more anyway so I don't mind when I get charged the fees.

>>7222505
god women have it so easy

I'm not anti-wig, but the whole "you must coord your wig with your outfit!" thing is silly and usually winds up looking costume-ish. To me, Lolita is just like any other fashion. There are certain occasions when certain items are appropriate just as there are certain occasions where it isn't. Save the really OTT stuff for big meetups, cons or other special days. (That goes for classic and gothic as well as sweet, don't get me wrong.) If you're having a small meet, hanging out with a few friends or just dicking around town? A more toned-down coord/simple-er with a natural colored wig will look just fine.

>>7222894
>>>>they don't care if other people think they look horrible it's ~*their style~* and they can do what they want

ugh this x a million. Though you're nicer about it than I am.

I really love OTT sweet, but I hate the way of thinking some of people who wear it have. Then again, a lot of people seem to think everything needs to be OTT these days. Just because something is unique doesn't automatically make it attractive or useful. I'd rather see people wearing a matching set or a boring coord that look nice than someone trying too hard and looking like crap. I feel so much second hand embarrassment when I look at the pictures from brand events sometimes.

I miss seeing the simplicity and elegance that got me into Lolita. Even AP can look elegant in a cute, sugary way. Obviously, I want OTT to stay, I just wish I saw more coords that weren't. I love outfits where the print on the dress is the focus and I'm not distracted by a buttload of colors and accessories.

>>7222994
> god women have it so easy

...bleeds vaginal blood all over your shit.

>>7222963
I actually think the same way about Boydline and the general feeling around Mr. Yan making the company and therefore the clothes seem fetishy. I mean, if I order from Bodyline, that dude is going to know my address! He probably doesn't give a shit, but I can't help but imagine him checking who buys what, and in what size, and jacking off to what he images customers look like.

"Mmm Suzy Q from Middleofnowhereeuropeistan ordered more size small bloomers, and a new bra that would match that JSK she bought in March. Look how small her shoe size is! My sweet has delicate lotus feet. Oh god, she ordered thigh high socks too. Mmmm where did I put that vaseline jar...."

>>7222994
top lel

In all seriousness, reddit pls go

>>7223012
>>the general feeling around Mr. Yan making the company and therefore the clothes seem fetishy

That they sell lingerie and 'sexy' costumes doesn't exactly help, either.

>>"Mmm Suzy Q from Middleofnowhereeuropeistan ordered more size small bloomers, and a new bra that would match that JSK she bought in March. Look how small her shoe size is! My sweet has delicate lotus feet. Oh god, she ordered thigh high socks too. Mmmm where did I put that vaseline jar...."

Haha while I don't exactly go that far,his reputation is in the back of my mind whenever I look at their items. Usually my thought process runs something along the lines of "Oh, Bodyline. Mr. Yan had a hand in this. Ugh Mr. Yan. He seems so sketchy. I bet he has clammy hands. Look at him all shadowy and scowling on that carousel horse. He actually turned lurking on a carousel into a thing. I bet he's the kind of guy who would touch every sandwich on a plate before taking one. Why would anyone want a "romantic dinner" with someone like that? Sandwich-toucher."

He provides plenty of entertainment, though. When he's not stranding girls in foreign countries, that is.

I really don't understand why so many lolitas get so up and arms about furries or other suits wearing lolita. "omg u ruin my fashun!!!11" If it's just a fashion and they think of it as just a fashion and not a costume like they preach, it should be the same as furries just wearing a dress or a pair of jeans. I'd like to think that this community isn't composed of special snowflakes, but it evidently is, I'm learning. If I see a furry wear lolita I don't give any fucks because it's not something to even be upset about anyways. Can someone explain this to me?

>>7223044
Because of ageplay already a big thing Lolitas have to deal with they don't want more fetishes to come into the mix.

Captcha: Skeet roluov

>>7223048
Please, in actuality, if a regular person sees a furry wearing lolita, they're just going to see it's weird. If a regular person sees a lolita, they're also going to think it's really fucking weird. They're not going to think "wow both fetishes furry and lolita? those must walk hand and hand and be entirely the same because this one furry is wearing it." You wouldn't throw a white dress on a furry and automatically assume it's a fetish thing. I don't know, so many people seem to overreact. I just think it's so unnecessary. Is it even worth the time to care? People are going to think it's a fetish regardless of whether or not it's on someone in a mascot costume.

>>7223056

Diff anon, but I really don't give a fuck about what normies think as much as what I think when I see a furry in lolita. It's less about how ridiculous something looks for me and how uncomfortable with furries, and that's a fuckton.

>>7223059

>and more about how uncomfortable I am with furries

I have no idea what ADD I've been having lately.

>>7223059
Which actually makes sense, but then it's just about how ridiculous furries are in general and has nothing to do with the fashion.
I dunno the entire thing just seems dumb in general.

>>7223044
Personally I think furries are hilarious and love seeing them at cons because they look so huggable! But I have never met a person who is a furry, so i don't know who is actually behind that mask. I've heard furries are fucking creepy people, but like I said, I never actually talked to one before.

>>7223056
I agree. A furry actually looks a hell of a lot less weird in lolita than a person. People will just think it's a mascot dressed in funny clothing, as mascots tend to do anyway.

>>7223056
The way I see it, it's for any number of these reasons:

1. The furry community has a shit reputation and the Lolitas probably don't want to be associated with it.
2. The whole 'furry' thing is still pretty controversial and a whole lot of people don't like it and feel uncomfortable with it.
3. Furries are usually seen as fetishists and so people are prone to thinking of them as that loud r-tard openly broadcasting their kinks shitting up the event or community. It's no different than cosplayers making fun of the those who are dressed as their fox-demon-cat OC as opposed to an anthropomorphic character of some sort (which has been done in the past with varying degrees of success).
4. Furries also have the reputation of trying to force their way into a community where they don't necessarily belong when their posts would be more appropriate for their own groups. To me, posts about someone wearing Lolita while in a fursuit would be more relevant to the furry comms since it concerns their OC. Aside from the odd question about construction, coordination and alterations, there wold be no need to bring the 'furry' aspect up. Especially considering the aforementioned reactions they get would probably mean they're not going to get their questions answered.
5. Usually, a dress needs to be radically altered to fit over a fursuit. Most of the Lolitas I know work really hard to afford their wardrobe and most brand pieces are released in a finite quantity. Pieces that are sought after, rare or popular getting changed to the extent that no one can wear them after the furry in question is done with it is bound to raise some hackles. Especially when there are plenty of other options that are good quality (and less expensive than brand) that custom-make garments.

Furries catch a lot of shit from the cosplay community (and virtually every other community but their own if it comes to that) so I don't see why it's so hard to grasp that some Lolitas would feel the same.

>>7222106
I'm pretty sure you're in my comm. Have people do refundable deposits for whatever amount you'll get charged for no-shows. If they don't charge for no-shows, still do like $5 to make sure they attend. If people still bail, put it towards the tip.

I use to organize tea parties and events, but the comm became over 100 and it got irritating to put forth a lot of work setting these things up only to have people complain and bail.

>>7222289
Are you me? I feel like someone made this post about me but added in autism.

>>7223116
I forgot to add: Lolita is part fashion and part collectors hobby.Imagine telling someone from /a/ that you're going to hack apart a well-liked, somewhat rare and expensive anime figurine. That would stir enough shit by itself without even mentioning that you're doing it for the sake of furry-ness.

>>7222195
JFC THIS.

I'm a guy who wears lolita and I just can't stand how most "brolitas" are just creeps who don't understand the fashion and just want to be crossdressing faggots.

The brolita in my local comm started trying to give me tips about wearing fake tits.
Why do you think it's appropriate to tell me to wear boobs?
And how the fuck are a pair of tits supposed to improve my lolita game when it's a struggle just to get the clothes to fit on your chest to begin with?

fuck yes i'm mad. creepy bastards.

>>7223214
>>tfw two obvious sissies join your local comm (at the same damn time because they're friends, no less)
>>tfw this is obviously a sexual thing for them (one even called a meetup a 'munch')
>>tfw it is implied that one of them is married with kids and leading a secret double life
>>tfw everyone else in the comm wants to be "super accepting of everyone" and "don't want to shame someone for their preferences"
>>tfw we are a tiny southwestern comm and I appear to be the only one who thinks something is rotten in the state of denmark
>>tfw I just want to drink tea with a bunch of well-dressed people

I know that feel bro.

I mean, I have my kinks too and I'm even fine with sissies, but something about this whole situation rubs me the wrong way for some reason I can't identify. It's just a feeling.

I really don't feel pretty enough for lolita because of my stupid spine curve. People assume I'm hunching over all the time and I'm really not. It makes me feel so sad.

>>7222289
give us the secrets

>have the money
>5'
>busty as fuck
>hate full shirring all around the bodice
I'm that asshole stretching your brand, oops.

My local comm is home to two very negative, very brandwhore girls that treat others like shit and scoff everyone who isn't decked in complete brand. The rest of us girls are too polite to do anything about them, but I secretly wish they'll end up having a big catty downfall with each other. I want to watch that bitchfit ship go down in flames. It would be nice to see both of them go through the hell they put through the rest of us.

>mfw my comm went from amazing to shit the three months since they've joined

>>7222938
Why would you pay $24 shipping for Bodyline? Why didn't she just make a wtb on her own continent?

>>7222489
Why are people trying to kill you? What did you do??

More of a cosplay confession, but it could work for lolita as well. I see popular cosplayers/seamstresses constantly pumping out new material like it's nobody's business. Every time I go to the fabric store, I spend loads of money for just one costume. Where the hell are these people getting the money and time to make this shit? If they have a job, it's got to be time consuming in some way, yet they seem to be capable of creating something once a week with wigs and everything.
I just don't understand. A-am I doing something wrong, cgl?

>>7223447
All of the cosplayers I know who churn out a new costume every month don't work and just get all the money they want from their parents. You're just a self-sufficient cosplayer, anon. It's okay.

I'm a brandwhore but only for Meta.

>>7223409
obvio, it's maikodolly!

>>7222505
I don't understand why I'm enjoying that image paired with the story so much

>> "I'm sick of all these fucking age players ruining my fashion and doing things that aren't to my personal tastes! I'm so much more mature than they are!"

If you were actually mature, people doing things that are not to your tastes wouldn't bother you much if at all. Don't like it, don't do it. It's not a difficult thing to grasp. However, I guess it makes things a lot less dramatic, and therefore I can understand why people do this. I mean, we all have preferences, it doesn't make you a special snowflake because you like what's not popular at the moment.

I am tired of my community being too nice and supportive and allowing two actual creepy fucks (a stalker and a sissy-fetish conspiracy-spewing brolita) to be a part of our comm. Most of the older members avoid meetups with them while the newer members unwittingly associate with them. I wish it were possible to just ban them from all the groups and events. It's getting to the point where it's getting hard to avoid them.

>>7222624
Yeah, it's kind of a big community. However I've only stumbled upon one of the meets accidentally. There's a big meet before the holidays are over. Hopefully, I get to make some new friends, but for some reason I think it may be my appearance, but I can't seem to move beyond basic intros. I'm good at introducing myself however, after that, it feels like they lose interest in me.

I find it kind of funny that cgl as in this board and cgl as in "caregiver/little" have the same acronym. If you look through the cgl tag on tumblr it's a mixture of screenshots from this board, pictures of girls in diapers, and text posts like "New box of crayons!!! I love my daddy!!!" I also wonder how many people running cgl blogs post on /cgl/ because they're often full of anime gifs, cosplay, lolita, and random kawaii stuff. It seems like there's a lot of potential overlap. (I'm one of these people myself.)

How much do lolitas dislike age players? How would you react if there was one in your group but they didn't relate their lolita to age play and never brought it up at meeting vs. one who was very public about it

>>7223833
anyone can be obnoxious about anything. if someone is being obnoxious, I am not going to enjoy hanging out with them, I don't care what the subject matter is.

I don't really see a point to bring up kinks in normal, non kink, conversation, but if they mention it for some reason, I really don't give a crap. It's their life, not mine and doesn't bother me.

To the people that cry about 'oh boo hoo sexual fetishes make us all look like weirdos!' You should probably grow up and realize that if someone is making that kind of generalization about you simply based on what you're wearing, they probably aren't the kind of person you even want to talk to anyway, so who cares?

After reading all this thread the only thing that I have to confess is that I would loved to be born a girl so I can dedicate myself to this and get the attention of other persons.
Plus it makes me wanna go full lolita tranny and bitch around with my lolita friends and laugh and all that stuff.

>>7223833
Well, if it was never brought up, I'd never know, so there's that. I think lolitas dislike it more when ageplayers try to bring their kink into the fashion and community, so while, yes, there are some that will judge you by your kink, I don't think most people care as long as you're not vocal about it.

My confession is that I'm too afraid to go to meets. I should feel very lucky, because there are some comms close to my city, my city even has an own comm which is already rare in my country. But still I'm too scared, like I was never good at making friend even though I try to be super nice and helpful. I often dream about having fun with a comm, I keep them as a last straw. It's pretty stupid, but what drives me is the possibility that I could have friends and a comm, but if they refuse me I would have to stay a lonely lolita. Without my bf I would go insane with this loneliness but it's not the same, he's only tolerant of my hobby because of the shoppinf addiction that comes along with it.

Also another confession, I don't own blomers. I just never felt like spending so much money on underwear when I'm wearing thights only anyway.

>>7223833

I'm with >>7223881
Aside from the people directly involved in your kind, there's really no reason anyone else should ever know what kind of kinks you're into. That's why I have zero sympathy for ageplayers who whinge and whine about lolitas being not accepting of ageplayers. If you told the entire comm all about your kinky adventures and they all hate you, it's far more likely that you're a loudmouth who simply blabs about all your kinks to everyone even if they don't want to listen.

That's also why it's important to stress that lolita is a fashion, not a kink or fetish. We want to talk about things like what the current trend is, what the next new releases are, how frustrating the last release was, colours that go together, tulle lace vs cotton lace, and so on. We're NOT going to want to talk about diapers and crayons, so you're really wasting your time and ours by trying to find a kink partner by going to lolita meets.

tl;dr -- no hate, but lolita is not the place for ageplay discussions.

>>7222702
Your boyfriend is awesome. Which Mana cosplay?
Ironically, I met my first boyfriend while he was cosplaying Klaha from MM.

>>7223012
I guffawed hard.
10/10

>>7223833
Honestly, I'm in that boat. A lot of my DL friends seem to enjoy lolita, but I never made the connection myself and I don't like lolita for any related reason.

I actually wear gothic, not sweet, to boot.

>>7224010
Lol! It almost made me cringe to write, but with the Bodyline contest now accepting two winners, I can't help but be reminded that Mr. Yan is patiently awaiting the moment he'll finally touch the young flesh pictured in his favorite contest photos. Now his creeper level is intensified as a mybodyisready.jpg expression is plastered to his face. He wears it with a glint of malice in his eye. If his first waifu rejects him, it's all good, no problem, he made a plan this time - HE'S ORDERED A BACKUP GIRL! Mwuah ha ha...each passing year is a step closer to The Dream.
Creep on, Mr. Yan, creep on.

Also I loved those SNL sketches!

>>7224054
Your posts so made my night. Yeah, those skits were too funny.
I own some bodyline and do love my dresses though. Even if Mr.Yan touched them awkwardly, then himself.

>>7222289
If you have no emotions then why does gossip and being treated like shit hurt your feelings?

I almost felt sorry for you. Now I know to treat every autistic person like shit, because you have no emotions and are basically an unfeeling computer. I've always needed somebody to dump my antisocial and violent tendencies on.

>>7223392
It is a mystery~

I don't fucking know, I've sold internationally before (some pretty cheap items compared to the shipping, too) with no problem but something about
>needing a payment plan for less than $50
>needing to borrow money for that payment plan
>being in Eastern Europe, a well-known black hole for postage
just rubbed me the wrong way and I was like "this needs to stop or I'm gonna get fucked over here, I know it". It's shipping tracked priority mail across the fucking planet, did you really think $3 would cover it? Fuck, I can't even ship that cheap domestic.

>>7222760
>>>/cgl/

>>7223720
Is this the Houston comm? I just ask because I know Brolita Jenny hasn't been blocked.

I really sympathize with the lolitas who posted here talking about how they are snubbed by their comms for being "socially retarded." I had the same problem so I just loli around alone, or with a handful of friends who aren't bitches. If I need to change so much as to not injure your delicate sensibilities, then you need to learn to be more understanding of people with social/emotional issues.

So my friend recently failed out of her programme this semester and has to retake the semester next sem (in January). Since then, she's basically been chilling at our apartment all the time. She's fairly responsible aside from her grades, pays her rent, electricity, etc. I have no problem at all staying with her, and I'm actually glad she got a break, because I think she needed it.

The confession is that I'll really miss her staying at home next semester because she's intercepted so many of my lolita and taobao packages and I've never had to run to the office at all this sem. I'll really miss that luxury most of all next sem. And that probably makes me a bad person.

>>7222157
Just because you are interested in both lolita and bdsm, it doesn't mean you need to let the two merge at all. I would never tell my comm about my fetishes and sex life, because it has nothing to do with the fashion and frankly I think sex should be kept in the bedroom (or the dungeon).
If you want to enjoy the fashion then go ahead and just don't bring your kinks into it.

>>7224083
This is /cgl/.

I'm majoring in elementary and early childhood education and I stopped wearing all of my lolita this semester when I entered the program. I have constant anxiety about my "public image" and I feel afraid that with the career I have chosen for myself I can't ever dress as cute as I want because if parents/administrators/other people I work ran into me at the grocery store or something dressed up are aware that the style is called "lolita" it could threaten my job stability, because I work with children and people could have the usual misconceptions of what it's about. I've also erased my internet presence connected with my real-world identity because if parents/students google my name and see pictures of me dressed weird or even doing benign but still "strange" things like talking about anime that they could complain to administrators that they find my behavior indecent. I am so jealous of other girls who are able to openly express themselves both irl and online, who can do things like post selfies without fear that doing so will ruin their future.

>>7224438
Just call it Japanese street fashion, and don't live in the school zone you work in.

>>7224438

Same as >>7224468, call it Japanese Fashion. I promise you, 90% of the parents won't know the name of the fashion anyway.

Toned down coords could be appropriate. Think about Fanny Rosie or something like that. No normal human being would associate this with Lolita as long as they are not into the fashion.
Some things could be appropriate to work. Maybe as casual or otome.

I'm not sure where you are from, but here in Germany the rules are not super strict. Depends on country/work place, I think. inform yourself. Look at the other people. What are they wearing? Try to bring in more Lolita slowly. And who would complain about a modest dressed young lady?

I'm sad to say this but keeping your internet appereance "clean" needs to be done. Even if I personaly think it is stupid.

Also, do not live in the same city as your school/teaching programm is.

>>7222184
Good for you

>>7222760
Gurl, you'd be jelly of me, I have the best bitchiest lolita friend ever and it is wonderful

>mfw I know a 24 years old girl who looks like she is 13
>mfw she is 5'0 has a cute face
>mfw we had made out two times
>mfw she will never dress as a lolita and fuck me and fullfil my fantasies

ps: I asked gently her today to show me the panties she was wearing, she showed me she was using those rainbow colored child panties

>>7224560
Ohhhh man, this post is creepy. You have succeeded today, troll.

>>7224560
Are you a girl y/n?

>>7224568

n

>>7222160
I like slight ageplay... I'm not open about it at all though.
People shouldn't hate me and stack me with brolitas and transexuals for it though. I keep it to myself and wear all the lolita and Jfashion but come on you hate someone for someone they can't help being interested in? That's not cool

>>7224560
>I asked her gently to show me her panties
Haaaaahahahaaaa oh wow.

>>7224612

I'm a huge ageplayer and I didn't become one until after I became a lolita.

I'm well dressed and respected in my comm and no one knows

>>7224617

< Just like this motherfucker

I was joking with her I didn't expect her to show me her panties

>>7224560
No sex? Once you make out you should practically be in her pants already, just follow through you faggot.

I could have gone to countless meetups already, but every time I come up with an excuse for myself before I'm supposed to leave, and end up staying home.

My boyfriend has offered to come along to sort of break the ice for me, but he really doesn't get how stressed out it makes me to be around people like that. I can't even be in the room with his family without him, let alone a bunch of people who can easily decide they hate me.

Don't get me wrong; I have friends and everyhing. But I make friends when I HAVE to be around people. Like at work, I'm friends with almost everyone, because I have to be around them, so I might as well make it as fun / plesant as possible.

But nobody's making me go to meets. Even though I really want to go, I get really excited, and then panic and bail. I'm just terrified of the comm judging me, especially now after seeing photos from the last meet.

Everyone, save for two people, looked so nice.

One of the two looked like she was maybe 15, and she looked like a typical ita weeb. The other was dressed nicely, but she looked really old and botoxed out and it sort of distracted from her outfit.

After that, I'm just so scared that I won't be up to snuff with the other girls. I only own one dress (and I've owned it for over 6 months now) and I still haven't found an excise to wear it out.

>>7222447
My BF wants to screw me in my lolita, but I don't want to make a mess on my dresses.

Shits hard to clean up.

>>7224806
That's what Bodyline is for!

>>7224438
Why did you choose such a shitty major then?

>>7224806
I don't get the obsession behind fucking while wearing Lolita at all. That shit would be uncomfortable. The petti would get in the way and suffocate people. No thanks.

>>7221478
Every person has to deal with some kind health/mental problem, you being fat doesn't make it less of a issue.
Don't worry so much anon, just try to take it easy and make progress at a pace that is comfortable for you.
PS: Not all /cgl/ are radical 'whale'-haters.

>>7222160
Do they do kinky shit on the street while they wearing lolita and everyone is watching them? Oh?, no?, then you need some vagina-sand cleaning cream and start respecting people's personal PRIVATE choices, unless they treating you bad or telling people that lolita is a fetish or other weird shit that is not fashion I don't see a reason to hate them, well, apart from you know: (therrr fagets EWWWWW)
>inb4 tumblr
the only place in internet I use for entertainment is 4chan.

I hate almost all lolitas and cosers in my comm. I wish I would have lolita friends to hang out with but i just cant stand them... All those "i'm so cutey i'm da best coser" attitudes make me sick.

its not like i'm forever alone, but my friends are out of comm and when i think of it i think probably other lolitas dont like me either... they dont act mean but yeah, im totally not like them.

>>7224958
thanks anon. just the ones who do are more prominent in the general community and im afraid to go to meets/post pictures online.
>tittybaby
I dont think im a "whale", just bigger. (my god i hope im not lord help me) my measurements still fit ap, so i am grateful.

I've always had problems with food, because I'm very picky and get really sensitive about eating too much in public. I'm tall but I'm also a healthy weight, but I always have weeks when I starve myself for a few days and eat very little to keep my metabolism from shutting down, and days when I eat everything and just sit there feeling miserable about it. I always feel like when I'm looking at waist sizes of the brands I like, I might actually start crossing over to proper ED territory. I used to have an outlet for it with some friends, but some people started accusing me of being an attention whore so I stopped talking about it. Fitting into brand and being 2L on everything and ~knees~ isn't making it better.

>>7222451
hater!

you're a pie eater.

>>7223850
>I don't really see a point to bring up kinks in normal, non kink, conversation
oh my god, I agree so hard. I get tired of people saying things like "i'm into ageplay and I don't know how to tell my comm!" or so forth. Like, why do you have to? People will either not give a shit or be put off by it. I kind of blame tumblr feminism for that because they have take sex-positivity from "stop demonizing sex and make options and information more available" to "IT SHOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO TALK ABOUT SEX TO ANYONE ALL THE TIME AND THEY'RE IN THE WRONG IF THEY'RE UNCOMFORTABLE"

Anyway, there is literally no reason to bring up your kinks unprompted.

>>7226617
Also in agreement. There are already fetish meetup groups out there, so why talk about it to a unrelated group? Attendees will either not care, or be put off.

If you know your kinks and fetishes, or are exploring them, more power to you. But if your sex life is the ONLY feature about yourself that you find interesting enough to tell other people, you must have a pretty boring life. Maybe an interesting sex life, sure, but isn't there anything else you do in your drab existence that you can whittle about to other lolitas?

As a person who is into BDSM but keeps it separate from non-BDSM circles, it pisses me off when some speshul snowflake who thinks she's the motherfucking queen of whip and chain decides to cross it over. Nobody gives a shit, and you might just have turned away decent people from coming back.

>>7224900
When you have the math skills of an elementary schooler, all you can (do other than retail and fast food) is teach elementary schoolers.