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So.. Are the dozens upon dozens of cosplay girls who get roped into incredibly obvious fetish stuff by photographers aware that it is fetish stuff? Do they care?

I ask because there are quite a few accounts like this on DA, who advertise openly the models they're working with, have many sets viewable, have what seems like a professional demeanor and real business (with no overt porno overtones), have all the girls commenting "Great working with you!", "This was fun!", etc. And they all have persistent fetish themes in every set. This guy, for instance, gets every single girl to take their shoes and socks off, then takes high resolution pictures of their feet. He even gets them to put their feet on each other's faces sometimes, or rub each other's feet. A few sets are blatantly niche foot porn, like close-up pics of girls stepping in stuff.

Is this just an accepted undercurrent of cosplay photography? It seems common, and while some may be hired models, a lot of them seem to be impromptu shoots at cons.

Note I do NOT intend for this to be a porn thread, or a troll thread. I am genuinely curious as an outsider to cosplay - which seems to have a large, developed community - about how this stuff is viewed.

>> No.6769393

When I was younger in cosplay I was tricked into taking foot fetish pics. I thought they were just ordinary pictures of myself wearing a costume with bare feet (because wouldn't a photo of a barefoot costume include bare feet?) until I started noticing some of the comments on the pictures that had my feet the most visible. A lot of cosplayers have very little knowledge of various fetish scenes, and get taken advantage of.

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>>6769393
I figured that might be a huge part of it, but then why no whistleblowers? Wouldn't it take one girl at one con to say "..you know that guy wants to photograph someone/himself kissing your feet because he's a foot fetishist, right?" to give everyone their creeper radar?

Another example. This girl has multiple femdom-esque pics. Boot/foot kissing, sitting on guys.

>> No.6769401

Well, the costumes themselves are massive fetishes for a lot of guys to begin with.

>> No.6769402
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6769402

You walk around in skimpy costumes with your tits and ass hanging out and yet you get mortified when someone looks at your FEET?

I mean, do you have a problem with "boob fetish", "ass fetish" "face fetish" "leg fetish" guys?

>> No.6769404

>>6769400
I honestly think a lot of girls just don't know. It doesn't occur to them and IF they even do browse the rest of the photogs gallery they might not pick up on it right away. A great deal of naivety, but when some of these girls are teens or whatever they just might not be worldly enough to make the connection.

>> No.6769406

>>6769402
Yes. I mean, they're usually pretty obvious too, and honestly I don't get why they get a free pass either compared to these foot etc fetish guys- I guess because they're being more obvious/brazen about it and not tricking the girls as slyly...?

>> No.6769419

>>6769404
I see this shit all the time on youtube. Girls make fashion videos, and they get tons of comments like "You look really sexy. You should do more videos in tights" or something like that from 40 year old dudes, and they're always like "Thanks! :D"

Not a single clue, man.

>> No.6769422

>>6769402
I think it would be creepier for someone to want to take a picture of my feet than of my ass. I mean, if I'm in a skimpy cosplay like pic related I'm gonna expect guys asking me to do poses where I'm showing off, but if some dude came up to me and asked me to take off my shoes I'd be a little creeped out and would probably say no.

>> No.6769423

>>6769419
Are you sure they don't know, understand that a large portion of their "success" (views, fame, praise, whatever) is coming from horny dudes, but sort of.. push that out of their mind as best they can?

>>6769422
Shit, and here I was thinking dressing up like Battler would get me insta-dommed at cons.

>> No.6769424

>>6769419
Some girls like and don't mind sexual attention. At times I like it too. It's natural.

>> No.6769425

>>6769402
>Women Logic

Welcome to real life

>> No.6769439
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6769439

Have you ever cosplayed barefoot?

Would it be less creepy to take pics of your feet if you were cosplaying a barefoot character? (rather than having to take your shoes off)

>> No.6769441

>>6769439
it would still be creepy, but if the character's feet or lack of shoes are a big part of them i guess it's not as bad.

>> No.6769442

I stumbled across one girls account on dA the other day who literally does almost -everything- barefoot, and most of her photos focus on her feet, much like OPs photo. The photos aren't even flattering though, and she has a whole folder dedicated to it. Perused the comments, but it didn't seem like many people really got her whole "focus on my feet" thing.

>> No.6769530

>>6769442
Was he name like shell or some shit?

>> No.6769533

>>6769530
Yeah. She posted in a group I belong to, and her photos were all really fetish-y and just shitty selfies.

>> No.6769534

>>6769393
Most cosplayers are heavily involved in fetish scenes. Although not as many as lolitas.

Cosplay is a very... Promiscuous hobby in some ways.

>> No.6769538

>>6769533
Yeah she seems like an attention whore who's trying to get attention from both the cosplay and foot fetish crowd

>> No.6769539

>>6769424
You like it if the guy is hot?

>> No.6769542

>>6769419

Girls like it dude.

Women like being sex objects these days. 1 in 4 young American women have done porn.

>> No.6769547

there is a difference between showing off the goods and sleeping around

doing fetish does NOT make you a slut

>> No.6769549

>>6769547
Come on, even if you're serious about this it's just going to start a flamewar. This isn't about sluts or sluttiness.

>> No.6769550

>>6769547
Don't be afraid to call yourself what you are. Nothing wrong with the fact you're slutty.

>> No.6769558

>>6769539
I don't care if the guy is a 10/10 or a fat smelly neckbeard-a compliment's a compliment and I'll be gracious and accept it. If they start stalking me and giving unwanted attention I'll tell them to fuck off no matter what they look like.

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6769555

Go to bed Athens.

>> No.6769559

>>6769542
there's a difference between sexual attention and being a sexual object, dipshit.

>> No.6769560 [DELETED] 

>>6769555
Reported.

If you don't stop sucking his dick and shitposting I'll email moot.

>> No.6769564

>>6769560
>Announcing your reports
>2013
shiggy diggy dippidy doo da

Also sorry your thread is shit OP, we can't discuss things without being 8 years olds grossed out by each others' cooties sometimes.

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6769562

Let me give you a hint, A troll is not going to stop being ridiculous.

>> No.6769569

>>6769564
>>6769562
>>6769555
>still won't fuck off

>> No.6769646

>>6769558
Does it constitute a compliment if the photographer asks for the relevant shots?

Maybe that explains it. It's a compliment.

>> No.6769950

People get a lot of money for fetish stuff. I cosplay for free. So, no, it's not really the same thing.

>> No.6769955

>>6769387
If they didn't want to be fetish models they wouldn't pose for it.

>> No.6769973

Not every woman in the world is a nerdy feminist prude. Showing a picture of your feet is harmless.

>> No.6769988

I myself don't mind it.

I don't see why people who are sexually turned on by stuff different from the mainstream/normal are treated like more perverted, or "sex freaks".
It's not logical, it has no reasoning behind it.

I don't see my feet as sexual, just like I don't see my legs as sexual, just like I don't see my face, lips, mouth, tights, hands, etc as such. But if someone else does and they want a picture of them, go right ahead.

>> No.6769992

>>6769400
I wouldn't be able to judge her unless I saw most of her pics that aren't her as Beatrice. The character itself is femdom related, so I not very shocked if most of her shots as Beatrice are like that.

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6770022

They're not even genitalia, and I don't really think genitalia are perverted. We all have body parts. I didn't pop out of the womb in a hoodie and jeans.

I wouldn't mind people asking me to step on stuff for pictures as long as they don't mind that I will probably masturbate to the sound of their voice later. Tit for tat, innit?

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6770030

>>6770022
>I will probably masturbate to the sound of their voice later. Tit for tat, innit?

>> No.6770043

Ugh, well, if I wear something skanky I can already assume someone will fap to it and mentally brace myself. The whole idea that someone might want to do that makes me a little uncomfortable. Although I suppose it is normal and unavoidable if you're going to wear sexy costumes? Either way, as long as no one is creepy to me in person then it shouldn't bug me.

As for how it related to fetish photography, well, if someone is intending to take fetish photos of me, I want them to be up front about it. That gives me the chance to decline if I feel weird about it so there won't be any of those "that creep tricked me!" shenanigans to deal with. If you're making girls pose for your fap material the least you can give back is a little honesty about your intentions.

>> No.6770045

>>6770022
If they think you're hot enough to want to make fetish videos starring you, they'd probably find the thought of you masturbating to them to be really hot instead of creepy or gross.

So unless you're actively turned on by being in their fetish videos, it's not really tit for tat.

>> No.6770070

There's petgirl and bondage photos on deviant art, girls who cosplay are often in it.

It's softcore porn and I go to it often.

>> No.6770086

>>6770045
I don't think I'm losing out on anything. It's not bothersome in the slightest. Rather, it seems more like a compliment.

>>6770030
You wanna fight? Don't make me come through this shitty internet connection and enter fisticuffs.

>> No.6770095

>>6769402
It's not the girls fault, it's patriarchys fault.

>> No.6770101

>>6770070
Femdom is a rarity even in niche cosplay porn. Fuck this earth.

>> No.6770462
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6770462

On the contrary, I wish people would be more up-front about it. There's nothing wrong or dirty about a guy finding every part of me attractive. I even take really good care of my feet. What's the big deal with just asking??

>> No.6770478

>>6769402
>completely and totally missing the point

no one is upset about someone looking at their feet. we don't generally go to great effort to keep our feet hidden. it's just gross for some women to think about their feet being fap material because if that's not your fetish, it's just plain weird. some other women don't care because their feet are so non-sexual they don't think twice about putting them on display.

you don't need to turn every single debate into a chance to say "lol girls r so dumb"

>> No.6770480

>>6769424
this

>> No.6770485

>>6769973
you can't even keep your stereotypes straight. first feminists are sluts, now they're prudes?

>> No.6770488

>>6770485
welcome to male logic

>> No.6770489

>>6770462
The problem is that you're an exception. Most people would react in an "ewww, freak" manner if someone were to ask and they do not want to be outed like that.

>> No.6770513

The problem is that cosplay itself has essentially become little more than softcore pornography over the past 5 years or so, so complaining about a few feet fetishists whilst indulging in a de facto pornographic hobby itself is rather absurd.

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>>6770513
You probably think that because you just browse here and use cosplay as fap material.

You really have no idea what this hobby actually is, and it's showing.

>> No.6770543

>>6770529
No, I've been going to cons for years and years.

The proportion of cosplays that are basically "sexy gijinkas" (or something similar), or just plain softcore/fetish-esque shit (Yoko comes to mind, a lot of the Skullgirls stuff too and many others) has rocketed up in recent years.

Cosplay is largely pornographic, it's about scantily clad game or anime characters being portrayed by girls with nice or somewhat nice bodies.

Why do you think there's this huge overlap between cosplay and fetish scenes?

>> No.6770544

>>6770529
>we make costumes because four times a year I go to an event where likeminded neets complement me on my useless crafting skills and my ability to keep my abs in shape!
Yeah, your hobby isn't very deep.

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>>6770544
Why are you alive?

And also unbelievably bad at video games

>> No.6770591

>>6770577
Oh did my comment cut a little deep? Lel

>> No.6770635

>>6770591
Like I would be concerned with what a plebeian who can't even play DOTA has to say about others' activities.

>> No.6770781

>>6770635

Sometimes I wonder if posts like these are honestly made by sane, rational adults but then I realize that /cgl/ has a lot of underage b& and wouldn't surprise me that some folks here are genuinely that far removed from reality.

tl;dr: /cgl/ is full of immature kids that love to tripfag and bash tripfags

>> No.6770795

>>6770781
Holy shit, what sensitivity. You can't even playfully jerk someone around without someone's butt getting sore anymore?

>> No.6770888

>>6770795
>playfully jerk someone around

Changing to passive aggressive I see. Way to take the pussy way out.

>> No.6770909

>>6770485
>first feminists are sluts, now they're prudes?
Because they're both at once.

Note how femnazi's are always quick to point out that "n-not every f-feminist is the same!" when someone posts a video of Chanty or some other retarded cunt, but are unwilling to accept that even within their own precious movement there's women who want to treat any kind of sex as rape as well as women who want to legalize polygamy.

Femnazism is pretty much the biggest cancer movement of the 21st century. It literally takes the worst of extreme right wing (Nazism) and left wing (Marxism) movements and combines them together.

>in b4 some dumb whore equates it to women's right
Probably already happened ITT.

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6770923

Obligatory.

>> No.6770936

Well, most probably, dudes are going to msturbate to your cosplay pictures, feet or not. So at the end of the day it doesn't make a big difference. I think many ignore the implied fetish in favor of having pretty pictures.

>> No.6770953

>>6770936
But... but they like FEET! Not my ass or boobs that I'm already showing off, but FEET! They must be perverts, sex freaks and probably child molesters too.

>> No.6771004

I wonder if Tom's in this thread

>> No.6771016

>>6770909
>being this uneducated about feminism
get out faggot
there are idiots who label themselves as feminists who believe "fat" is beautiful or that you're a cis-scum for labelling genders, but that def. is not what a feminist it
it's more like "hey so... abortion, you know, before it's a fetus it's kind of my right what I do to my body... and I shouldn't be shunned for it. Yep."

>> No.6771022

The problem isn't cosplay porn, it's girls being taken advantage of by pornographers who don't ask about it first. It's a huge red flag because the only people who'd do it are people who already don't care whether or not a woman gives consent.

Forget whether or not the pics look innocuous to non-fetishists, because that isn't the point. And stop whining about how it's all the fault of slutty girls in slutty costumes and other such regressive non-issues. The point is that this is taking advantage of naive women to make and distribute porn of them without considering their consent necessary. That's why these people are creeps.

>> No.6771035

>>6771016
Whether or not people shun you is their choice, surely?

>> No.6771038

>>6771022
>it's girls being taken advantage of by pornographers who don't ask about it first.

1 in 4 American women have done porn.

Most women in the West want to do porn.

Cosplay is basically softcore pornography by this point anyway.

Deal with it.

>> No.6771048

>>6771016
>>uneducated about feminism
No, you get out you cancerous little fuck.

You're the one who's believing their blatant lies and ignoring any facts. If you were actually educated, as in knew everything about it's origin and its history, you would know why it's all bullshit.

Here's the truth - the *harsh* truth - just because a movement has "fem" in it does not mean that it is different from any other political belief. It doesn't care about anyone's rights, it only cares about catering to the interests of its rulers. And on the most basic level, they *cannot* ever, under any circumstances allow for female equality, because then they would *gasp* either have to actually spread that and support it in 3rd world countries and, more importantly, they couldn't tell women anymore that they are victims - which is how they recruit their followers in the first place.

Mind you, this is not unique to them. As I said, they're a realistic political movement, just like any other. Just like the democrat slave masters tell African-Americans they're victims (and are keeping them that way to ensure they will retain their votes), or like immigrant victimizing libertards of Europe, or, yes, even the 'right-wing' Republicans that are victimizing rednecks and cretins.

If you truly believe that there are some rulers out there who care more about your well-being than their own, you are a naive ignorant moron.

And if perchance they would exist, they could never get into the ruling government, thanks to our amazing and flawless 'democracy' (which ancient philosophers had already ruled out as complete and utter bullshit for good reason ages ago).

But hey, you're just going to get offended because this highly contrasts the idiocy mantra that you were taught in the media and in the education system - and those are obviously right, because... *shrug*

So back to crying about how you're being oppressed by the patriarchal kyarchal cisgendered scum.

>> No.6771061

>>6771048
US is a republic, not a democracy. Just saying.

>> No.6771083

>>6771061

A republic is a representative democracy, a type of democracy like direct democracy, which is what you were probably suggesting. So no, you're wrong.

The first democracy was in Athens, which was a republic. Rome was a republic. Britain's parliamentary system is a republic. They are all democratic forms of government. Being a republic is not a separate distinction.

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>>6771061
>US is not a democracy

>> No.6771090

>>6771004

I wouldn't be surprised.
Fucker's a blight on the Toronto photography community.

>> No.6771091

>>6771038

>internet
>random statistics and baseless assertions no one agrees with, without proof

Your posts are like watching a victim of cerebral palsy putting for par and scoring a +9 on a miniature golf course.

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>>6770909
>Note how femnazi's are always quick to point out that "n-not every f-feminist is the same!" when someone posts a video of Chanty or some other retarded cunt, but are unwilling to accept that even within their own precious movement there's women who want to treat any kind of sex as rape as well as women who want to legalize polygamy.

Haha are you fucking serious?
You seriously believe people who identify as feminists don't know about the few wackos in the community? Furthermore, how come they're not allowed to distinguish themselves from this? What the hell kind of logic is this.

Is everyone in a democracy a gun-wielding nutjob with a bigot mouth?
Is every Muslim a terrorist?
Is every Catholic a child-raping molester?

Oh wait, no they're not. And just because these people exist doesn't mean others in their communities DON'T know about them and shun them on a frequent basis. Your problem is you just want to rope everyone into two categories: The offenders and the offender supporters--because it's easier to believe two fucking stereotypes about people than actually analyze different groups of people with different ideals in a movement.

You amazing dipshit.

>> No.6771106

>>6770888

I guess I won that exchange.

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>>6770022
Speak for yourself, I popped out fabulous

>> No.6771114

>>6771089
It was based on the republic of ancient Rome. George Washington was a major fanboy of Cincinattus. It indeed has more elements of a republic than elements of a true democracy.

>> No.6771117

>>6771105

Pigeonholing is a pretty common argument tactic on /cgl/, I wouldn't read too much into stupid posts here. Sometimes you get the worst of social justice warriors, genetically defective eugenics morons and /r9k/ virgins.

>> No.6771123

>>6771114

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy

>sage for offtopic

>> No.6771127

>>6771112
How come they're still rednecks eating roadkill when their show is watched by millions of white middle class privileged females every week?

>> No.6771134

>>6771105
Way to miss the point of you projecting dumbfuck. You didn't even read the second part of what you quoted, didn't you? I was responding to >>6770485 this dumbfuck to tell him that not all femnazi is the same. But then you heroically come in and quote my post (the part that's specifically saying not every femnazi is the same) to tell me that I am a poopyhead, and that I am not right because, actually, not every femnazi is the same.

This is what happens when you're a projecting little mongrel who cannot into using arguments unless it changes reality to turn the post it's reading into something it can reply to.

>> No.6771166

>>6771134
I personally think the world would be better off without you and the people who share your opinions, but I do appreciate that you sage your posts. Thank you.

>> No.6771280

>>6771166
Thank you, this is exactly what I wanted to hear.

>I personally think that the world would be better off without people who dare question our rightful masters!
Thanks for your input, Uncle Tom.