/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Old one was over 300 so let's keep expressing our frustrations about stock issues/bloodbath releases

what do we think of the new CoF mods? I'm disappointed, two of them are ita.

>>10404318
>>10404319
>not linking the old thread
>not including the caption of the first comment in the OP
Your new is showing, either lurk moar or go back to facebook >>10400982

>>10404324

Sorry, it's early morning where I am and I was tired.

Honestly the 'new' insult has been thrown around so much lately it makes me feel like it's just new people trying to feel like oldfags.

>>10404321

Not super active on FB but got a notification they changed the name of the group, I guess to remove the word lolita but since Daily EGL exists I wonder if it was intentional to create confusion between the two groups?

>>10404325
That's because summer has started extra early, one could even say it never ended in the first place ;^)

>>10404321
talking of that we need a new CoF thread since the last one devolved into something about the spat between those two gothic lolitas

Sorry to bother anyone if this is obvious but no one answered in the stupid questions thread:

If you special order an item from the Japan store through BTSSB San Fransisco but it goes out of stock but then BTSSB Japan announces a restock, will they fulfill the request?

>>10404368
Just ask them

>>10404370

I placed the special order for the item already and the BTSSB Japan Instagram posted they'd be restocking with details to follow but I haven't heard from BTSSB San Fransisco yet.

I'm sorry but as much as I appreciate indie designers I just don't see the appeal in these? They don't seem remotely lolita at all and are just so tacky. These were posted in Lolita Updates btw.

>>10404387
Some of the colors are decent for OTT/hime styles. Basically the only decent think Puvi has ever put out though.

>>10404387
it always reminds me of the cheap little girl princess jewellery that I'd get as a kid. I really don't like it. it doesn't look any better irl

>>10404387
The only one I’ve ever seen look decent is the black on black one.

>>10404387

lol the designer's already marketing it to the LGBTQBBQ crowd so I'd say you're right, these seem to be selling based on virtue signalling points now rather than how lolita they are.

Originally I thought they might work with OTT princess looks but the colours would be hard to match. Not to mention with unknown brands there's a chance the metals used are cheap and look garish, these are coming from someone who doesn't exactly have the best track record.

>>10404396
How is it that gay people had better taste when homosexuality was illegal

>>10404387
Someone post a coord where these actually look good with an OTT coord. Oh wait, you cant.

>>10404396
Imagine being a cunt about LGBT+ people when you’re literally a lolita. Fuck off lol like half of this community ain’t straight scumbag

>>10404415
The pink x gold ones do genuinely look fine with hime styles and the black x black set looks good in some gothic coords. Really my only complaint is that they are so popular with itas that I am embarrassed to wear my pink x gold set despite it looking pretty good in some of my coords

>>10404425

Neither am I but you gotta face the truth that some of these money-grubbers are just parasiting the cause to make money, not because they actually care.

>>10404427
Same on both accounts. I am not an ass who flips shit every time something queer is brought up. but rainbow capitalism is annoying, even when it’s from smaller businesses. I hate June.

>>10404387
The red and blue ones literally look like the jewelry of my princess costume from like 2nd grade that my mom made me, just looking at them gives me such vivid memories

>>10404429
Literally same. In my city a couple of years ago a local bank had rainbow flags up all June and they got vandalised multiple times with statements about how much they absolutely don’t give a shit. It was great.

>>10404443
Good. God, if I see one more company that has rainbow merch in June but terrible policies for their queer employees I’ll scream. I don’t need a cute flag I need health insurance for my partner

>>10404425
Not that I have contempt to the LGBT community, but your stances on the LGBT community is completely irrelevant to lolita. You just have to like the clothes.

>>10404484
It’s not required but it’s not irrelevant. It’s like walking into a gay bar for a drink and not liking gays. Like yeah you don’t have to like gays to like cocktails but uhhh there are a lot of us in this room and you may have to take that into account

>>10404486
Lolita isn't about being gay though? But gay bars are for gay people

>>10404484
Fuck off homophobe

>>10404484
Btw super scientific /cgl research says that majority of comm is bisexual, the number of lesbian and heterosexual women is close.

>>10404489
My point is if you go to a space with a lot of gay people, you should probably be prepared for that. There are a lot of gay lolitas, by coincidence or otherwise, so your feelings on the queer community are not irrelevant if you are a lolita. It will probably come up. Quite a lot.

>>10404495
That matches with a lot of blind surveys even outside of lolita. Bi people are common but also often not out publicly because we can just never say anything. If you ask anonymously though, hey why not.

>>10404526
Ok meetlita

>>10404529
I am a lonelita, but this applies to online spaces too. What do you think the gay gets washed away when we log on?

>>10404318
Am I being stupid, or did these socks not appear on the webstore today? I was thinking I may just order from Paris store anyway, seeing as the shipping will actually happen within Europe.

>>10404542
These were posted on candy's blog without an announcement date

>>10404325
it's 4chan so there are always going to be anons who do nothing but spew memes.

>>10404542
I don't see them too, plus Milky bears are yet to come on sale.
Turned out I completely missed an announcement for upcoming accessories this week. Although I didn't look to buy anything so that's okay.

>mfw browsing auctions and spot this

What in God's green Earth happened?

>>10404529
I thought meetlita was to imply they only wear the clothes to meet ups?
Anyway, I'm gay and I wear lolita outside of meets but also to meets and cons.
I agree with the other anon. A lot of girls in my comm are gay, myself included.
Not liking gays and joining a lolita comm is only going to work out in areas where being gay hasn't been normalized.

>>10404555
That's not even that bad desu. Replace the shoulder elastics, give it an oxyclean bath, steam it, and it's perfectly wearable.
Looks like someone hung it up in a humid closet and left it for a few years. Not surprising--I think this release was six or seven years ago.

>>10404555
the hunchback of Notre Dame wears BABY?

Does anyone feel like the Japanese secondhand market has really slowed down in the last week? I guess I'm only searching for AP stuff, but it's like nothing new is getting posted.

>>10404555
That's what happens when you hang thing with shirred shoulders hanging from the shoulders long enough instead of folded over a pants hanger

>>10404555
Elastic wore out because the dress is too heavy to be hung. It happened to a lot of my BABY jsks, so now I fold them over the bar of the hanger instead

>>10404555
i got a dress on the cheap with broken elastic like this. took it to my seamstress and she fixed it like new for $10.

>>10404721
i noticed that too, baby usually has 2 pages of new listings daily on fril,but it's only had 4 the whole week.

>>10404721
I’ve noted this too

>>10404380
No. If it’s sold out they cannot request the item for you. Baby isn’t doing request for items sold out online. I’m guessing it’s those damn face masks. You’re better off ordering it straight off the jp site when it does restock as it will sell out before they can request it.

>>10404387
I wish these shit stains would keep their sexual preferences out of lolita. Jfc.

>>10404526
I really don’t care about what private parts you want to put in your mouth. Let’s talk about dresses.

>>10404721
Japan is about to transition from stay at home to opening again on Monday, so people are probably getting their shit in order for going back to work and not prioritizing sales

Okay, so they’ve nuked the Feels thread I made last night but yet we got to read about gay off topic. How does it work?

>>10404768
(you)

>>10404773
The US was starting to open back up, but everything’s going to hell in a handbasket now.

>>10404764

Thank you anon; I'll try to keep an eye out for when it's back on sale! I assumed they'd be restocked sooner but it's been a bit since their post.

>>10404425
china considers lgbt a mental illness and japan isn't very supportive of it either. so actually the majority of lolitas are against lgbt lol

>>10404910
Do you live in China or Japan?

>>10404910
How did you manage that conclusion you absolute moron.

>>10404950
china and japan have the largest amount of lolitas. this isn't rocket science

>>10404954
Still haven’t answered why China and Japan comma are relevant to your personal experience as a lolita

>>10404957
that's... not what i was trying to say? op says half of the lolita community is lgbt and acts like lolitas have to be pro lgbt as a rule, which is factually incorrect. if she just means murica, she should say so

>>10404954
Are you being deliberately obtuse, or have you realised your logic doesn't add up so you're now gonna regurgitate the same words in a different order?

If a government has a prejudice against a group, that doesn't mean that group doesn't exist. Just like in Poland, they can wave their dicks around all they like declaring they have LGBT free zones, but the gays are gonna continue being gay.
There's also evidence that this fashion attracts more queers compared with more normal fashions.
So, I'm just here wondering how you managed to pull that huge, biased conclusion out of your arse? Actually, I'm not really wondering. I know why. I'm just here to see what you'll come out with, as I'm sure it will be entertaining.

>>10404412
KEK

>>10404963
why don't you post your evidence instead of bawwing like a child?

>>10404969
Against what?
This?

>so actually the majority of lolitas are against lgbt lol

>>10404412
kek great art comes out of adversity

Some new items from Sheglit.

>>10404986
That black dress is so cute!

Boz - Christina OP Skirt Set (クリスティーナ ワンピース スカートセット)
Price: 31,680 yen (tax incl.)

Colours:
>Black x white
>Black x black

Shoulder width: 37cm
Bust: 83 ~ 87cm
Waist: 72 ~ 78cm
OP length: 115cm
Skirt waist: 58 ~ 70cm
Skirt length: 55cm (Belt width 3.5cm)

Outer material: 65% polyester, 35% rayon
Lining: 100% polyester

>https://www.atelier-boz.co.jp/products/detail/245

>>10404991
It was actually released at the start of the month, but it's never been posted and it's still in stock.
Staff coord: https://twitter.com/BOZ_OSAKA/status/1256178207667007489

>>10404993
>never been posted and it's still in stock
People here generally don’t care about gothic brands. None of the boz or AtePie or anything other than sheglit and some mmm releases are posted here.

>>10404970
any of your other white middle class american woman takes on the state of lgbt in asia

AtePie - Rococo Rose OP (ロココローズドレス)
>Price: 53,900 yen (tax incl.)

Length: Approx. 122 cm
Bust: 75 cm ~ 101 cm
Waist: 70 cm ~ 100 cm
Skirt length: 88 cm
Shoulder width: 37.5 cm
Sleeve length (including lace): 41.5 cm
Cuffs: 28 cm

Material: 100% polyester

Release date: Monday, 1st June
Notes: Limited edition
>https://atelier-pierrot.shop-pro.jp/?pid=151222835

>>10404998
I'm under the poverty line, but if we are reducing the conversation to genetic features we have no control in then I guess I can hand you a hot take... I think supporting LGBTQ rights is important, but we need to stop pushing "our brand" of LGBTQ on other cultures. We should encourage civil rights, human rights but not impose our way of expressing or accepting on them. Perspections change over time; focus should be on encouraging legal equal rights and beyond that just back off.

>>10405001
This needs to be worn while live streaming at a riot with a full-on powdered wing. Extra points if the wig has a boat in it.

In other news, AP SF survived through the night.

Speaking about Sheglit, the Florence Lace OP seemed well-received by the other parts of the lolita community. What's /cgl/'s opinion?

>>10405004
>answering an insult seriously
Autism

>>10405004
Fwiw, I think that is a respectful take. I can’t stand seeing other queer folk on twitter pissed at non American queer communities for not doing this “properly” or being a good “example.” Part of human rights is respecting other cultures and not deciding that the correct way to be gay is whatever LA is doing

>>10405023
This is a common thing a lot of first world cultures tend to do to everyone else; we have a habit of project our similar but different version of things onto others but then act really surprised that they just don't "vibe" with it.

You can even see that with lolita fashion; clearly Chinese Lolitas are really, really into giant underskirts right now and in other places that's not really a "thing" or a common thing. Japanese Lolitas tend to play it more fast and loose with their poof volume and level of casual vs. more formal OTT. Meanwhile Americans are really into specific guidelines that are either able to be written out or precisely defined. None of these regional things are "right" or "wrong"; they're just cultural differences seen through the lens of Lolita.

>>10405010
Japan seems to be playing with more historical shapes right now and seems to be leaning away from pop art when it comes to EGL-ish fashion veins. I like it, personally, because I think it expands the "family" more. I feel like as I get older that cuts like this would suit me more, but that I would not be out of place at a tea party with a bit of styling and accessorizing.

>>10405051
>thinking all Japanese brands are like AP
You sound incredibly new

>>10405062
Nayrt but is “you sound new” the hot cgl meme of the month?

>>10405001
ouf the fabric kinda screams shiny costume

Apparently AP realized they had the collar folded the wrong side and changed them before the recent release. I laughed.

>>10404321
I applied to be a mod and in the end I'm glad I didn't get picked because this group is beyond saving, but they could have at least bothered with a "thanks for applying, but we ended up not picking you" instead of complete radio silence.

>>10405065
Yes and it’s so fucking annoying

>>10404963
>There's also evidence that this fashion attracts more queers compared with more normal fashions.
Source? As an Asian, I can tell you that you sound like a clueless moron at this point.

>>10405115
the picture was probably flipped.

>>10405115
>>10405161
Imai Kira drew it the wrong way too.

>>10405117
It seems retarded to apply if you don’t think it can help. Good thing they chose people better than you.

>>10405171
I guess it was a gothic dress all along.

>>10405065
it's the hot meme of the summer, ftfy

>>10405177
>>10405065
It’s been used here constantly for years. You sound new.

>>10405185
>implying cgl hasn't been in eternal summer

>>10405010
I love this but I often hear Western lolitas complain about their dresses being too long. I think it's probably because we don't consider longer dresses to be "lolita enough" for cof or meetups and that's a shame.

>>10405115
I don't understand. Is there a significance to which side is on top?

>>10405193
Right over left is for dead people

>>10405192
Can't speak for everyone but I personally just find long length unflattering on me because I'm short. I also just find short skirts more aesthetically pleasing in general, long length tends to look matronly imo.

>>10405195
Unintentional guro lolita

>>10405195
Thank you

>>10405174
Lol

>>10405185
It’s been used forever. it’s been *overused* since corona and it’s getting old

>>10405252
You sound new.

>>10405252
I swear to god I saw this exact post in 2016 about this exact same thing minus the part about corona.

>>10405260
Trends here go in waves. Pull up an archive from even November. People say it but it’s not every third comment
>>10405257
Call me ;)

>>10405273
Calm down. You sound new.

>>10405289
No you <3

>>10405292
It’s
>no u

Newfag

>>10405296
If you were smart, you would have gone after the emoticons. But points for trying

>>10405296
what the fuck are you talking about

>>10404993
it looks like she got no shins

It's ILD this week, what are your plans?

Baby have finally released the colourways and cuts for the new Wizard of oz ~ my precious things series. It will come in 4 different colourways, and 4 different cuts, including a skirt

>>10405478
The red colour way

>>10405479
The yellow colourway

>>10405480
And then the skirt cut

>>10405481
Does anyone still buy skirts? I feel like they’re dying out and certainly get no attention online in places like cof or insta

Alice and the pirates have released their own equivalent to the usakumya, 'Captain Chris'. Not only can you buy him as a bag, you can also get a brand tail and ears, which I dread what the furries will think of it. He does have his own story, but I can't read the Japanese, I'm sure someone will translate it at some point kek

>>10405485
I just got my hand on a bunch of cutsews so I’m open to buying skirts now but they’re hard to find secondhand unless you like really ugly colorways. I hope skirts come back.

>>10405488
Where are the best places to buy cutsews? Especially brand ones? I feel like I’ve literally never seen them sold new in brand stores but when I look at places like cc there always seem to be barely any and it’s always some pilly old putumayo that someone faded in the washing machine lol

>>10405485
they're too small for most westerners. and i guess asians just don't like them for whatever reason.

>>10405491
Most of baby's skirts are fully shirred

Ok but can we talk about this??

>>10404318
Where can I buy quality thigh high socks or stockings? Nothing sheer.

>>10404387
Glad I'm not the only one that felt like this. I think it's the fact that it looks too busy and cosplaying design wise

>>10405487
>>10405503
AatP has been an embarrassment for years.

>>10405507
I think they look incredibly cheap, like costume jewellery for little girls playing princess dressup. I’m surprised there’s no matching tiara.

>>10404387
is this even an indie design? it looks like cheap taobao stuff to me.

>>10405485
>>10405491

That's not it, they aren't popular for a few reasons.

One, most girls, no matter how skinny, will still have a soft waist -- so any elastic waistband will often show a muffin top anyhow, unless she's got abs (and sides and back) of steel. You can solve this pretty easily with either shapewear to prevent the muffin top, or a cutsew/blouse that has frills around the bottom to hide it, but it's still some extra effort.

Two, it's just easier to coord a jsk or OP where the dress takes up about 70% of the visual space and blocks off most of your look. With a skirt it becomes super important to make sure the top matches the bottom half so you don't look cut in half. Plus the current trend of sheer blouses is easier to do with a jsk/op than looking for a suitable undershirt to go with a skirt. Newbies are often recommended to start with jsks for the best compromise between easy to coord, and easy to change up.

Pricing reason, a brand print skirt is usually ~$200 new and sometimes it's just a simple rectangle skirt with lace on. This is the most expensive part of the dress that uses the most materials anyhow, but if you're already buying a skirt, adding another ~$100 will get you a bodice that usually also has extra frills, lace and detailing.

Most of these are minor reasons, but they kind of add up, and then the secondhand value drops as people prefer to buy dresses. Which in turn means girls stop buying brand new skirts as the resale is low. Which then means brands simply reduce or stop production of skirts entirely because no one is buying them. Which means there's now a limited supply of skirts on the market.

>>10405174
Underappreciated post

>>10405503
is it detachable? if yes I think its kinda cute!

>>10405490

Er. AP always seems to put out a handful of cutsews every year, along with a couple of cutsew dresses here and there. You don't even have to watch them like a hawk, they do it all year and the cutsews do end up in sales.

Different story if you're looking for a specific style of cutsews, I guess? Feels like I haven't seen the bibbed style being released in a while now.

>>10405490
japanese 2nd hand sites are always the best places mo.

>>10405510
Speak for yourself. If you're not apple shaped or fat you won't have a muffin top. The reason for why they aren't popular is that they're very casual. Most lolitas aren't into casual lolita. It's just old schoolers who wear them. So you are right on the second part. But most western lolitas aren't thin, so yes, they don't fit them.

>>10405536
This is true. I’ve always bought a lot of skirts because I have a long torso and they’re more flattering on me, but the oldschool skirts are the only ones I’ve ever been able to get rid of secondhand. When trying to sell more modern print skirts with partial shirring I get a ton of messages asking me if I’m sure they won’t stretch further (they won’t) but no buyers. The most recent one I was only able to get rid of because I priced it dirt cheap and the buyer relisted it for a higher price almost immediately. Last I checked it’s still unsold.

>>10405545
True about the sizing. I own a few baby and aatp skirts and they’re MUCH always forgiving than my baby jsks. I do have a fully shirred atepie skirt which could probably fit a medium sized girl though

>>10405514
Yeah haha I find AP too sugary sweet personally so I haven’t been looking there

>>10405549
*much less forgiving

Sorry for brain sperg no idea how I managed that

>>10405485
I think it depends on how hyped the print is, the two latest ap skirt prints got sold out pretty fast. I wear skirts a lot and I don't notice any "likes" difference to OPs actually, in fact some of my skirt coords get more attention.

>>10405487
Captain Chris I LOVE you and I might be your only stan here. If corona wasn't happening I would buy you. Please can someone translate the story!

Hate the furryesque set tho

I'm so fucking tired of moitie scalpers, I really am one listing away from scam-buying all their shit.

>>10405477
My comm is doing an online meetup!

>>10405488
The same for me. I've recently figured out how to coord skirts and now I'm going to make up for years of avoiding them.
Also, taobao has a lot of skirts, and unlike brand ones, they come in different sizes.

So *possibly* some good news bad news, maybe just for fellow Canadian gulls.
Good news, it seems like newer EMS packages are being dispatched a lot faster from Japan. WW just sent out my last EMS package so I can update on how fast that goes too.
Bad news, this also appears to be just for new packages, I have 2 other EMS packages and 2 e-packets that still haven't been updated since April, and some of those were at the same location as the package that shipped.

>>10405549
Is this true of their recent pieces? Their measurements look the same, but the only Baby skirts I’ve owned are old ones

>>10405607
Wow April is a long time. I just had one arrive that took 1.5 weeks to dispatch and I was so worried. I have one more package that just shipped so I’ll see how fast it goes.

Luckily I was pretty addicted to animal crossing so I didn’t order anything in April.

>>10405010
i'm getting the black colorway! (it's been stuck in the mail since april though...) i think it's beautiful and looks so comfy. also it being so long is great because i'm tall as fuck

>>10405637
It depends on the cut of the waist. A regular waistband means you only need to fit the max measurement in 1 little area between your folds lol, but a high-waisted skirt means you need to fit the max measurement in the entire waist region. So high-waisted skirts like the recent Sleepy Sheep and Devil Cat are especially unforgiving.

>>10405485
I like skirts, but cutsews and non-sheer blouses are hard to find secondhand so I gravitate towards my jsks. But the Kumya Ice Cream skirt sold out immediately - I'm still salty I didn't get it.

>>10405490
Since BtSSB sells skirts, they also sell good cutsews.

>>10405607
Fellow Canadian here.

EMS never really slowed down that much for me. I ordered a couple things in April, and they all took around 2 weeks to get here.

>>10405658
>Sleepy Sheep
The max measurements of the JSK and SK are the same, which should fit the same *especially* if it is high waist. My question is if there is a measurement discrepancy, because this is true of a lot of recent Baby releases or are you looking at pieces in a vacuum without regard to the JSK’s size

>>10405010
So people get angry about taobao's long classic dresses but this ugly matron shit is ok?

>>10405710
>people can’t have different taste than me!!!

For the anon that was asking about DHL/customs in the last thread, my DHL order from CC reached me today. No customs fees.

To reiterate, I live in the US on the West coast and it took 3 days (not counting weekends). Package was valued at around $400. Shipping was ~$50 and the box they used was DHL size 2 (which is about 2lbs).

>>10405607
>>10405640
I'm jealous of Canada, I still have at least two EMS orders from the first week of April that have not had a single status update. But that's pretty much everyone in the US right now.

>>10405705
I'm saying I think high-waisted skirts are as hard to fit as a jsk and non-high-waisted are probably easier. If someone tries several high-waisted sk from one handful of releases vs several full back shirring jsk from a different handful of releases they might think that sk is harder to fit. But if they try regular-waist sk vs some unshirred dresses, they might think sk is easier to fit. I think anon's point about one or the other being harder to fit heavily depends on the cuts they compare.

>>10405754
I've had DHL customs invoices come a week or so after the package itself was delivered. You're not out the of the woods quite yet.

>>10405536

The skirts can get way more OTT though. In theory you should be able to add a bustier, overskirt, underskirt, princess sleeves, and turn the non-casualness all the way up to overdressed fairy princess tier. Then remove it all and pair it with a cutsew for a casual look.

(well, with the exception of some particular cuts/design of skirts).

I think people just don't do it because it's not as easy as throwing on a jsk or OP and then accessorising around it.

>>10405536
I’m not apple shaped but anyone who isn’t skin and bones is going to have a bit of a muffin top in lolita. The skirts sit high on your waist and even with shirting they’re tight.

I wear shape wear like corsets and leotards to lessen the look of it when I’m wearing a skirt and cutsew

>>10405792
Really? Do you live in the US?
This was the most expensive package I had shipped DHL, but I've had others shipped of lesser value and have never, ever had an invoice mailed to me (these were also international/Japan). What would make the difference between owing fees on $100 and $400?

This all goes back to the de minimis. If the goods are under $800, they do not need to be declared, so there is basically no work for the customs broker to do.

At this point, whatever. I have my stuff. I'll throw money at the problem if I have to and never use DHL again. But I really doubt DHL would release my package to me if I owed them money. That's pretty much them giving up their power in the situation.

>>10405802
I’m pretty much dead in the middle for a normal BMI and I don’t muffin top in lolita skirts. I’m not short either, I’d be considered tall by Japanese lolitas. So no, this isn’t true.

>>10405802
I only muffin top in skirts that are too small for me, and I'm apple shaped.

>>10405802
>>10405823

I'm relatively thing and short (65cm waist, 160cm height) and I don't get a muffin top of fat so much as a muffin top of ribcage? I wonder if it's just a question of height, because the end of my ribcage is just a couple of cm above the smallest part of my waist, and I imagine taller lolitas have more space between the two?

>>10405802
>even with shirting they’re tight.
That's why. There are people that the skirts aren't tight on anon.

>>10405831
I’m 170cm with a similar waist so no. I doubt it’s height.

>>10405835
Are you one who does or doesn't muffin top?

After all the disparate self-isolation ones we've had, I'm eagerly waiting for a #blacklivesmatter coord challenge

>>10405837
Does not

>>10405831
>>10405823

Im short with a short torso and high waist so maybe that is why i have a muffin top. Im around 123lbs and 5'2 so chubby by cgl standards but not a plus sized. I fit all my AP skirts but some give a muffin top and some dont.

>>10405832
The skirts fit and I'll still have 2 or 3 inches of shirring ;left but the skirts are still feel tight/uncomfortable.

>>10405841
>>10405850
I guess it's just a combination of body frame and the skirt then. I think I have a relatively prominent ribcage relative to my waist. Anyway I use vests, corsets, cardigans, etc. to smooth out the 'jump' between my waist and my ribcage and it works fine.

>>10405858
Maybe you’re just fat though

>>10405861
No, but I hope your day improves.

>>10405858
If I don't feel like wearing shapewear I'll just wear my cutsew untucked to hide it which some people think is sloppy but if im going for a casual look anyway who cares?

>>10405858
>>10405851
>>10405850
What is your waist measurement?

>>10405870

I'm
>>10405831
>>10405858

However the more I look into it, the more it seems the rib flaring I have could result from certain core & back muscle imbalances, so I think I'm going to add a few new exercises to my routine to see if I can lessen the difference between my waist and lower ribcage measurements - in case other anons have a similar problem.

>>10405865
I don't think it's sloppy if the cutsew has ruffles at the bottom.

I love skirts personally and there are some prints I would have loved if they had come in skirt form, but of course we tend to get only JSKs or OPs a lot of the time.

I think one of the reasons we don't see pictures of skirts so often is because people don't share their casual coords too often.

Everyone needs to be OTT on CoF.

>>10404387
These fuckers scratch up and tarnish so fast. I wore it once for a day at a con and it was such garbage that i regretted the purchase instantly and unloaded that shit at the next lolita swap i found lol
Not to mention this cash in on pride month is laughable instead of coming up with a decent design the same indie designer group lazily copies each other over and over

>>10405894
Breugh I feel bad for people who think that shits good

>>10405894
This looks like a Christmas ornament lol no thank u

>>10405838
Haha there it goes.

Do you think influencers have a responsibility to use their platform to speak about important issues? Or does their silence speak volumes? Or at the very least they should avoid making posts about themselves?

>>10405914
This is really the “influencer” you decided to go with huh

>>10404963
"Queer people" are spicy straights anon, not LGBs

>>10405870
I am >>10405851>>10405850 and my waist is 27"

>>10405914
Shes the type to take advantage of the situation and go looting, every other big lolita made posts but she doesnt care.

>>10405925
Yikes

>>10405914
I just don’t understand how they can act like it’s business as usual right now. At this point even if they did say something it would feel like it was done to appease followers, not because they actually give a shit. I’m glad they’re quiet right now. It really shows what they care about and how they chose to use their “influence”

>>10405914
Honestly I'm sick of people throwing a fit over those who choose to stay silent. I don't like Kate, but influences don't need to "use their platform" for anything.

The whole "if you are silent, you stand with the oppressor" stuff is bullshit. Leave people alone. Each person can process this crisis in the way they choose. Stop gas-lighting people.

>>10405929
calm down ana-chan

>>10405939
I agree with you, thank you and honestly a lot of influencer’s BLM posts didn’t seem genuine anyways.

>>10405914

I'm really sick of this. I hate k8, but I hate this whole if you don't post a certain way ur the oppressor bullshit.

Also k8 is a mess so you really don't want her on your side.

>>10405963
I would think that anyone supporting the BLM movement would be grateful that k8 hasn’t posted about it kek

>>10405939
Wow, a sane and logical post, thank you. I'm not about these fake woke people telling me what to fucking do lmao. Welcome to virtue signaling hell

>>10405939
AGREED. Not everyone cares about politics!

>>10405929
I’m sorry my bone structure is fucked up? My waist isn’t gonna get much smaller than this even with weight loss. It’s just how I’m built.

>>10405977

The idea that racism is bad and should stop isn't political, is it?

>>10405980
You could have some ribs removed

>>10405939
She's a huge virtue signaling sjw v strange she's silent about this

>>10405912
Is there actually one? I haven’t seen it, pls post

>>10405994
yep that’s totally a reasonable and very easily gotten surgery

>>10406008
Well if you’re built like a fridge like anon is saying I think it’s reasonable

>>10405939
Thanks for being a sane person. I'm political in my private life but this need for everyone to broadcast it is really grating to me. Now we have huge corporations doing pic related to be "in" with everyone. Thanks Disney... Its just so disingenuous

>>10406010
rib removal surgery is almost impossible to get for aesthetic reasons. anyone claiming to have it is a liar who just edits their photos.

>>10406010
how would you know they're built like a fridge unless you know their hip measurement? just your waist measurement doesn't say anything about your proportions.

>>10406028
>>10406026
Why do I get the feeling that your BMIs are room temperature?

>>10406032
>you must be fat to not consider rib removal surgery

i can hear your bones rattling

>>10406039
COPE

>>10406010
please fuck off

>>10405939
Apathy of white people is what got us here in the first place. You can be upset about it, but it doesn't change the fact that you're letting this happen.

>>10406061
I hope this is bait

>>10406039
I have my ribs removed and no regrets. Ama.

>>10406079
Shut up and stop larping, you’re not fooling anyone

>>10405914
She's not a kawaii ambassador. Why are you so mad, Chokelate?

>>10406094
Chokelate? what the hell is this stretch?

>>10405754
Original asker here, appreciate the followup! I had gone ahead to ship my things anyway and posted that unfortunately both of my DHL packages ended up shipping on the same day (total value combined over 800 USD), they both arrived today, with no customs bill. Fingers crossed it won't arrive later like >>10405792 mentioned but I guess if it does then it does. Hopefully it doesn't happen for you!

>>10406120
Ah summer, when will you no longer torment us?

>>10405914
I think it is fairly telling, although the worst is when people just post coord shots/selfies/hauls and ONLY in the description talk about such things.

Looking at you x_haro_x. Nice BLM plug with your misty sky coord.

>>10406127
I know what drama is being referenced but you REALLY think choke is STILL here posting about k8 in 2020

if she is she's got years of wigs to ship out/refund for instead go worry about that instead of k8

>>10406133
she must have saw your post she just made another BLM IG post a minute ago. lol

>>10405993
Um... yeah, it is. Actually.

Hey, just want to through an update in here; I'm the lolita that thought she might have to flee from the riots. Guess what? I don't have abandon my brando. What happen was the riots were get closer and closer every night as places where being looted dry, but the rioters hadn't yet touched my street. Then tonight the curfew went into affect so the die-hard looters are being stopped before they even get to new targets.
I'm so happy(and tired from staying up so late so many days in a row)! No starting over with the wardrobe!

>>10406138
What the actual fuck. Wow.

Unfortunately for her, that shit has already been seen.

>>10406136
>I-I know what you’re talking about!
>I was only pretending to be retarded!

>>10406144
glad you're safe anon

>>10405914
who cares? She's not obligated to say anything. Mentioning blm doesnt mean you care about black people. Yall realize many people are still racist yet on their ig or twitter theyre pretending to care about blm? grow up

Sorry but who is k8 and what’s the deal with her

>>10406153
Tell me how saying >>10405914 is choke is a stretch is "pretending to be retarded"

what's retarded is you thinking choke would still give a shit about k8 5 years later when she basically got run out of Lolita for scamming people out of money for wig orders

>>10406174
Because it was a joke and only an autist would be this worked up over it

>>10406133
I love this retard mentality. You are damned if you stay silent and damned if you don't.

>>10405980
dude dont engage you measurements are fine.

>>10406079
that is just a blatant lie.

>>10406173
Go be new somewhere else

>>10405865
Honestly I don't get why people think untucked custews and blouses are sloppy. Tucked in tops always remind me of male office workers. As long as the top is the appropriate length, it won't look weird untucked imo.

>>10406144
You're a fucking idiot

>>10406273
kek

>>10406184
its the time to take a side mentality man, proper sigh of the initiation of a war.

>tfw simple answer why skirts are less popular becomes waist measuring contest

I'm assuming everyone does realise it doesn't actually matter. Even if the skirts only muffintop legit fatties, that's still a segment of the market that will chose dresses over skirts, so the skirts remain unpopular. Y'all have your own reasons for comparing waist measurements, I suppose.

There's third colorway! The print is v pretty tho.

>>10406133
Avina did this too lmao. Patted herself on the back so hard for posting abt BLM but still used an aesthetic photo. She justified it like “I tricked you into looking at this post with an aesthetic pic!” Girl please, you just don’t want to ruin your feed.

>>10406120
I struck a nerve.

>>10406293
Print is nice but the muted blues are obscure for lolita and the poly, which I often don't mind, looks like the thin silky kind that snags easily

>>10406298
I have no idea how anyone can stand following her, easily one of the most sanctimonious lolitas on ig

>>10406309
I had to unfollow her. Got so tired of her trying to make her page political. At the end of the day she's just another rich girl that buys a ton of shit and wears it once. She frequently complains about her reach but phrases it like "I just want visibility as a lolita of color!!"

Like...sure, Jan.

>>10404387
We used to get these at the fair as kids. Now they're being used to get money out of alphabet people. What a world.

>>10406300
>muted blues are obscure for lolita
Spoken like a true larper

>>10404425
How are you going to support the lgbtqpa+++ by throwing money away at hideous looking cheap plastic that will inevitably end up in a landfill? WTF? Do you not care about the environment? Who asked for this? What is tolerant about mindless consoomerism? What exactly do you do for minorities by buying this trash? This is tacky as hell and fits decora maybe, but no Lolita.

>>10404486
That is retarded.

>>10404942
Yes.

How have people found violet fanes quality? Disappointed with polyester and scratchy lace but then I usually buy brand. Its literally thin as a $6 aliexpress dress. Like it'd melt if I took an iron to it.

>>10406144
Good for you, anon! Looting in poor neighborhoods is disgusting.

>>10406273
And you're a sore ass fat loser with jowls like Virgie Tovar.

>>10406336
i bought one skirt and hated it. The sewing was sloppy, there wasn't even a token effort to make the pattern match on the seams, and the material was cheap.

>>10406184
You can be silent all you want.

But advertising your coord shots with blm hashtags and a few uwus is disgusting.

>>10406336
I thought so from the photos. Too bad. How about the tights?

>>10406298
I saw that too and was shocked considering all the hot air she is constantly blowing out her fanny about other things that affect HER.

You're seen, girl.

>>10406333
as part of the LGBTs, hell will freeze over before someone capitalizes off my sexuality. Indie brand or starbucks, it's all so trite.

>>10406344
The tights are good. Thick material, really stretchy even on my big calves. The print doesn't get wierd by strething either.

>>10406333
But surely if we keep buying things with certain colour combinations, bigotry will disappear!

>>10406293
Why does the white colourway have a different lace from the other two colorways?

>>10406400
Those are most likely sample pieces

>>10406405
Ah, right. That makes sense.

>>10406339
what a weirdly specific projection, it's almost as though you're describing your own image :^)

>>10406400
Privilege

>>10406420
Lmfao

>>10406298
way to shit on your own allies lol, no wonder ppl are racist

>>10404425
sure, take my money for CLOWN necklaces. Will go perfectly with my next clownita coord. The money will totes help this straight married woman solve all lgbtq issues!

>>10406293
I feel uncertain on this print. Artwork is super cute, but somehow it still doesn't feel too exciting. Anyways I'll give it a skip since I went overboard during quarantine.

Really? Today of all days?

>>10406293
>>10406482
The imagery had potential but the colors and fabric killed it. It's a damn shame too, cause I love that swan with the crown.

Kinda feels like AP trying to make a money grab over a "new" Crystal Dream Carnival.

>>10406400
I like how AP is going to ditch the lace on the white colorway for the cheap lace on the other two. The tiny "AP" initials just look so crappy.

>>10406498
Kek, this is hilarious. No way she didn’t do it on purpose

>>10406498
I also noticed this, yikes. Maybe she doesn't know what it's a reference to?

>>10406501
I don’t know a single person in the English speaking world and who isn’t a child who doesn’t know what little black sambo is

>>10406501
How fucking sheltered can you be to not know this is not racist?

>>10406502
Honestly I'm from an English-speaking country and I know a fair few people my age (mid-20s) who have had no idea about Little Black Sambo until I told them. Most people over 40 would know, but it wouldn't really come up for anyone younger. I'm not from the US or UK though, so I guess I don't know how ubiquitous it is there.

>>10406505
I’m from the US, under 30, and have lived in areas with a low black population my entirely life, and I’ve never met a person who didn’t know. Gemgem is also from the US.

>>10406506
Fair enough then, no excuse whatsoever for her.

>>10406506
Shes also from the backwater Midwest, which is racist as fuck.

>>10406293
Sorry i'm way out of the loop, which print is this now?

>>10406502
i'm american and idk what that is. i'm guessing something racist

>>10406498
I'm not sure if this being deliberate would make it more or less hilarious

Reposted with name censored.

>>10406514
Explain?

Hey gulls. I just got engaged and I'm intending on getting married in lolita. Is there anything specific that makes you look like a whole sperg when you marry in lolita that I can avoid?

I'm very confident in my coording skills, just have bad anxiety and don't want my wedding photos to end up in the ita thread somehow.

>inb4 "don't post them"

I want to post them and flex on the sad lonely cunts.

>>10406520
you will get posted

>>10406520
I should add, I'm still going to be wearing white (or ivory, or something like that) and a veil. I'm not going to wear some OTT sweet monstrosity.

>>10406517
Little Black Sambo is an old racist cartoon. JM themselves regret making this skirt, and G*mg*m posted this skirt for sale on Blackout Tuesday. It's extremely tone deaf.

>>10405607
So now all my EMS packages, except the most recent free shipping WW one, have (reportedly) left Japan! God, almost 2 months... my epackets are still not updating, but that's to be expected. I hope they didn't get lost in the post system.
>>10405640
>>10405678
I guess I was incredibly unlucky then, I tried both EMS and epacket to see what was better and they both sucked for me. Even FedEx was kinda long but not bad considering the current circumstances. Good to know that other Canadian gulls are having better luck than me though!
>>10405754
I'm jealous of American anons for having better courier services haha, I get hit with customs and ridiculous extra fees anytime I use DHL, regardless of the price. I don't think your customs are as bad as us too. And I think WW is only offering courier services for affected countries afaik, so I'm stuck with snail mail here.

>>10406530
fedex is notoriously bad in the US, it's probably the single worst delivery service here.

>>10406530
As a Canadian, I can say I had a package that I shipped mid april that just got to Canada through EMS. But I also had DHL not give me any fees recently so my luck is up in the air.

>>10405485
Good thing I wear skirts for myself and not the likes :^)

>>10406545
ok

>>10406530
inb4 looters get those packages off delivery trucks

>>10406504
I've never heard of this until googling it and I live in the US south. It could be a regional thing

>>10406501
>>10406512
She did it on purpose. I don't know why it's even surprising.

>>10406557
No it's an old timey thing. We were taught about it in history class along with minstrelsy about reconstruction. You may not have been taught it but the cartoons were printed nationwide

>>10406523
imagine being this concerned with others' opinions about your own wedding day
just pick something you like

>>10406566
nayrt

I live in bumfuck PA and we weren't taught about racism at all lmao

We only learned about the "safe" topics.

>>10406568
I mean the real goal is to avoid having my good feels shit on.

>>10406571
Your "good feels" come from "flexing on sad lonely cunts." Nobody cares about helping you protect your massive ego.

>>10406520
Use your real hair rather than a wig and don’t skimp on your shoes and jewellery. A lot of lolita accessories honestly look pretty cheap and while that’s fine in a lolita context, it looks jarring in a wedding context.

>>10406340
The lace is different to the one in the photos and its a god awful colour looks like a white that got put into the wash with something black
I won't buy there again

>>10406344
Didn't order any couldn't tell you,sorry

>>10406344
The tights are good quality, I would recommend them

>>10406514
>>10406525
I can't lie, I kek'd
maybe they can donate it to one of those "americana" museums

>>10406267
I think the problem is exactly that the fit is often not correct
especially on fat or busty women

>>10406520
you're certainly getting posted with that attitude. who the hell posts pics just to flex that they're capable of holding down a man?

>>10406514
The listing is gone

>>10406514 >>10406525
>>10406718

I'll tell you a secret... Black people like to collect blackface memorabilia. And we have to hide it in the house from white people. I wanna wear this. But the salts not worth it

>>10406725
She relisted it with a more vague title and "proceeds are going to a donation".

>>10406727
I don't see the appeal but you do you, open up a fake LM if you need to, the skirt isn't selling for much. It's cute, I wouldn't feel comfortable wearing it but the design is adorable.

this was on lolita updates. wtf is that bottom half?

>>10406738
Eww get that corperate virtue signalling out of my indie street fashion.

I hate companies posting this stuff. It's so hollow. Just sell to all people of all colors and we'll all support you.

>>10406520
If you post your wedding to flex, you're gonna have a bad time.

>>10406530
My free shipping WW package hasn't budged yet either. Upsetting, I hate that my packages are in limbo. Hopefully this means they'll move soon. I'm glad that your stuff is finally on the way!

>>10406732
No, its gone

>>10406738
>conflating "muh capitalism!" with strict social norms
I hate marxist cocksuckers

>>10406755
Another free WW shipping anon here. No movement either, I understand the virus is a big situation but I am so frustrated people who ordered after me are getting their packages...

>>10405485
I really love skirts, I just don't understand why they tend to be so small? Is it just me? Meta's Fancy Egg jsk fit me when I was literally 8 months pregnant. The skirt is so much smaller it didn't fit me at a 75 cm waist (I'm dumb, should have read the measurements more carefully when ordering). Why the size discrepancy? both have shirring. Likewise I own a few IW skirts and all of them are much less forgiving than their JSKs, despite having shirring or corset lacing.

>>10406532
I've heard FedEx horror stories, but Zenmarket had a discount on their shipping and I've been burned too many times by DHL so I decided to give it a try. I didn't get hit with customs or fees, and my box came in intact, which was a huge plus. Every time I've used DHL (probably 5 times by now) the box has came in destroyed, with ridiculous fees, usually being almost at or above the actual price of the package.
I've heard that FedEx destroys packages after 5 days, and are bad for "skipping" delivery yet marking it as a delivery attempt, is that common for them to do that in the US?
>>10406539
How long did it take after it left Japan? Now I'm worried that my packages are just sitting on the plane indefinitely. And how low do you mark down your packages for DHL (if you do at all)?
>>10406755
>>10406815
I have one package from the first free ship campaign, and one from the recent free ship campaign. Both of them have shipped and are stuck in the same Japanese post office, WW took a long time for the first one though... The most recent one was dispatched pretty fast and now is just in japan post office limbo, although I think in a week or two it'll update again (the first one was an epacket so rip no updates there, second is ems). Which campaigns did you two order from?

i'm amused that the most enraged and outspoken black lolitas rn all have non-black bfs

black men are great unless they want to date you, eh?

>>10406848
I ordered from the April one I think, not sure which campaign that I’d. My package made it to the post office the day before they stopped accepting new packages. It’s been stuck since April 24th

>>10406853
Well look at it logically: black women into lolita are more likely to be weebs and want to date someone with similar interests. Most black male weebs have white and Asian women fetishes.

Cops still brutalize and kill black women and just because you don’t want to date someone doesn’t mean you want them to be killed by cops.

>>10406853
And that matters how exactly?

>>10406865
because if they really had pride in their culture they would date their own, not turn their back on them

>>10406866
Back to /pol/ with you

>>10406848
Ayrt, it was the free EMS one in April. They dropped mine off earlyish in April and it's just been sitting in the post office ever since.

Dat’s intense

>>10407019
Forgot to mention, but does that bunny look like Shanghai limited edition plush that caused so much fuss literally.

>>10406738
This is all such nonsense.

Also they sure do love capitalism when they try to only make you buy from black business. Sorry but in a Japanese fashion I'm gonna buy from Japan. And at home I'm going to support the small businesses that got destroyed. If I buy indie I will go for design and quality, not by who owns it.

>>10407045
This is also what bothered me. Sure, support black-owed businesses that were destroyed by looters. In fact, support all the businesses that were destroyed recently. But as soon as you tell me to buy from a business simply because is it owned by a person of color, I'm out. Being a certain race or having a certain skin color does not make your business endeavors better than anyone else.

>>10406738
This is such bullshit and misunderstanding that only Americans projecting their own understanding of political views are capable of. Politics in Japan weren’t and aren’t the same as in America. Fuck off.

Could an itabag work with lolita? Like an itabag with Sanrio characters

>>10407065
Of course anon, many people have done it before, even with non 'kawaii' anime characters. Baby also have released their own itabag base, so you can be fully brand whilst you're at it too

>>10407066
An AP ita bag would be my dream.

>>10407065
I think Sanrio ita bags work with the best with lolita. I have a Tuxedo Sam ita bag, because penguins rule.

>>10406848
Now both of my epackets have (reportedly) left japan too!! Even if they're just sitting on the plane for another month, it's progress, and they aren't lost in post office limbo anymore.
>>10406854
Assuming you're American because April 24th was the cutoff for US shipping, so I guess there's not much WW can do for you now that the post has your package hostage (it's a 4+ month wait right?) For the May free shipping campaign they offered discounted courier services for affected countries instead, pic related. Doesn't really help now, but I wish you and your package luck!
>>10407010
Idk if you're in the same situation as the other anon, because my April package recently updated with "Dispatch from outward office of exchange". It's the May free ship one for me that's not updating now, it's just saying that it was mailed, which is weird because all my other packages got the update "Arrival at outward office of exchange" a day after mailing.

>>10407070
I'm a separate anon who hasn't replied yet, but I've been talking about shipping in the stupid questions thread.

I have EMS packages from CC from April 7th and 13th that have not updated. But my e-packet stuff shipped after that (also by CC) has already made its way to the USA and has been delivered to me. I'm really frustrated that EMS is lagging behind e-packet. Why?

I pretty much have no hope that EMS is even going to move while the mail suspension is in place. I'm still wishing it would just get returned to sender so I could use new courier options.

>>10407070
Ayrt, mine isn't even in that stage, it's still at the Posting/Collection status.

Weighing in on the mail situation with my four packages (oh boy).

CC EMS : packages left 4/3 and 4/12 respectively. they arrived May 30th after being stuck in EMS purgatory for six weeks.

CC DHL: came within one week of shipment. No issues with customs

Wunderwelt Yamato: order shipped around 5/19. Came within two weeks. I need to pay like $100 in customs fees ugh.

I live in burgerland but I hope this helps people when they're trying to decide shipping

>>10407079
customs on a package arriving in the US????

>>10407079
>Wunderwelt Yamato: order shipped around 5/19. Came within two weeks. I need to pay like $100 in customs fees ugh.
I have a question about customs since you're also in the USA. How were you notified of the fees? Did the package get delivered to you and they asked you for the payment right then and there? Or did you have to pay the fees before it was delivered? Can you pay the fees online?

>>10407079
>>10407086
Also, how much was the order from WW using Yamato? (Value wise, that is)

>>10407088
Probably at least over 500 USD

>>10407049
Agreed. America is so America-centric. And it tinges all english-speaking countries. They didn't care about HK.

>>10407090
Are you the original anon?

Just checking - there's a lot of misinformation about customs and the USA, so I really want to hear first-hand experience.

>>10407084

Yeah, it sucks but I heard at least one other person getting hit in the US so I was unfortunately prepared.

>>10407086
They will attempt delivery but will not give the package until you pay. Since Yamato delivers through ups you can pay online with PayPal which is how I did it just now. You need the tracking number for ups which you need to get by first logging into the Yamato website with the other tracking number. I did not get notified of fees beforehand.

My total was approximately $800.

>>10407084
It's rare but it can happen. I've seen it happen to a few people buying BJD's declared over $1,000

>>10407091

Or their own country for that matter. Lots of Aussies dogpiling onto this while barely mentioning their own treatment of aboriginals.

>>10407094
No, but I live in the US and the only time I've known people to get customs fees is recently- with large orders through Yamato. I've seen a few people and group comm orders with a high value get hit, but myself and others with a lower value don't.

>>10407098
Thank you for replying, anon.

I asked because I also had a Yamato package from an SS, which was delivered on 5/26 and I wasn't notified of any fees. That order was around $500-$600 though.
My SS just shipped another package that has an actual value of 79500 yen, which is close, but actually only around $730. I'm nervous about that package because it could easily be put over $800 if one of my other orders from 2 months ago suddenly decides to leave Japan and go through customs at the same time... another reason I'm mad Japan Post won't just return EMS/e-Packet to sender. I stagger my packages for a reason...

>>10407099
This makes sense. It falls in line with the de minimis in the USA being $800.

Can anyone confirm if EMS has a method for these packages? I read someplace that they will be handled in the order they were received but it's clearly not the case

>>10407098
I had another question, sorry -
Were you given the option to pay the fees when they attempted delivery? Like can you give your credit card directly to the delivery person? If I do get hit with fees, I kind of just want to be done with it, and I would hope UPS lets you pay immediately. I don't want them taking my package anywhere once it's 2 feet away from me.

Thanks again, anon.

>>10407116

I was, but only through money order or check. You'd have to write it out right away so I'd recommend just having it on hand if you are expecting the package.

>>10407049
Yeah I’m putting money into what I like as well. Most of the black indie designers have shit taste and products I’d never want/wear

On another note this trash fire on rc is absolutely amazing

>>10407273
You tell me, is that just me being dumb cis hetero thot or people are really trying to re-introduce fashion as a gay gear, like some sort of casual camp? I used to tell myself that they are just openly gay and wear fashion, but sometimes I feel something that tells otherwise.

>>10407273
As someone who is LGB, this is ultra cringe. Fucking throw the TQ+ uwu crowd into the damn trash already

>>10407273
What are people saying in the comments?

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>>10407086
I ordered about $200 worth of stuff from WW, used Yamato shipping, live in US, didn’t pay customs

>>10407079
I'm in Japan and have been getting slammed with customs since January. I paid around 50% in fees. Two of my Taobao orders got hit with customs fees and they were under the cutoff price (¥13333). Another two dresses from Lace Market had the same issue. I paid customs once in my life, now it's as if every other package is getting flagged