/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Nothing to do with anything, but fuck if I dont just love that picture

>>10352644
Same here, it's beautiful.

absolutely blessed image

Within the past year prices of AP accessories have completely sky-rocketed... I bought my Milky-Chan bag on CC for ~$50 and my Chick-Chan bag was ~$120 from Mercari (which I thought was overpriced at the time). As much as I love them, I would never pay this much? People say sweet is dead, but a lot of items are being sold at collector prices. Even plastic jewelry is $200 for a necklace and a ring at this point... on Japanese secondhand sites. Kind of scared of this trend.

>>10352895
Who is saying sweet is dead...? It's still reigning as the most popular substyle by far

>>10352903
Sorry - I probably mean more that OTT sweet is dead. A lot of anons seem to dislike OTT sweet and I associate these types of stuffed bags with OTT.

Anons, I'll be going to a big lolita event for the first time. Aside from this I've only ever gone to small local meets at coffee shops.
An overseas indie brand designer will be at it and they're accepting model applications. I really like this brand and probably won't ever see it in person again so I thought it'd be a nice experience to try. However, since it's my first big event and I don't know when I'll get to attend another one, I don't know if it'd be worth it to take time away from simply enjoying the event to model, especially since I've heard it's a process that eats a lot of time.
Those who have modeled at events before, would you say it's worth it to make it in or should I just enjoy the experience from the sidelines since I may not get to again?

>>10352909
Modeling sucks, I'll never do it again. It's suffering. There's no point unless you love yourself more than anything else in the world. Ok maybe do it once but never again.

>>10352895
I’ve noticed that most all older OTT sweet is going up in price, not just accessories. I paid $200 to get back a dress I had sellers regret on that I had trouble selling for $85 a couple years ago. I wonder who is surging the demand, though, because I haven’t seen any coords with this stuff being posted really at all lately.

>>10352909
>>10352912

I also did it one time and wouldn't ever do it again. I wasn't particularly interested in most of the con, but I also didn't enjoy standing around in a room, not really eating, for most of the day. I don't regret it though, so it can't hurt to apply and try it once to see if you like it. Just bring something to occupy yourself...

>>10352914
pretty sure it's china

>>10352914
I've wondered if I had a role in surging demand at all or if it's just a collective whole. I bought one necklace for $100 that was a long time wishlist item, and it seemed like over night Japanese sellers started listing higher. One of my dream dresses (which I bought 2 years ago for $200) was on yahoo.jp just a week or two ago, for $800, in the worst colorway. I'm not sure anyone bought it, but it really surprised me.

I've had a lot less fun shopping on the secondhand markets lately since older, sweet AP feels so overpriced. I don't know if the market will go back down or if this is the future. It makes me sad, since very little of what AP releases now interests me. The last good release was Toy Doll Box and the Toy Fantasy MTO.

While my wardrobe feels 4x more valuable now, I don't really care. I just want to buy sweet items without feeling gutted.

>>10352919
Picture for reference. Actually more like $700, and it seems no one has bought it yet. I don't know why the seller would list this so high though.

>>10352914
It is China, I sold a couple ott sweet items and the address was some kind of forwarding service on the west coast, the buyer had a chinese name, and she/he never confirmed receipt

>>10352922
If no one bought it, then it’s just someone trying to scalp. Sellers do this all the time

>>10352914
>>10352922
>tfw just started to get into 2010 era sweet from gothic and now this happens

RIP my wallet I guess

JetJ - La Dame à la licorne Robe 2020
Colours:
>Red
>Purple

Outer material: 100% polyester
Lining: 100% polyester
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La Dame à la licorne Robe 2020 (high waist Ver.) (ラ ダム エ ラ リコルヌ ローブ 2020 ハイウエストVer.)
Price: 30,000 yen (not incl. tax)

Size: 0/1/2
Skirt length: 64 cm
Bust: 83/88/93 cm
Waist: 71/76/81 cm

>https://juliette-et-justine.com/products/detail/256
Note: Home laundry and hand washing possible
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La Dame à la licorne Robe 2020 (just waist Ver.) (ラ ダム エ ラ リコルヌ ローブ 2020 ジャストウエストVer.)
Price: 30,000 yen (not incl. tax)

Size: 0/1/2
Length: 98.5/99/99.5 cm
Bust: 85/90/95 cm
Waist: 65/70/75 cm
Waist position (Shoulder-Waist): 34.5/35/35.5 cm

>https://juliette-et-justine.com/products/detail/257
Note: Home laundry and hand washing possible
-----------------------------------------------------------
Order period: March 3rd 2020, 12:00 JST to March 31st, 12:00 JST
Delivery date: early to mid-July 2020

>>10352940
Awful

>>10352947
how so?

>>10352951
Ignore that anon, must be the retarded elf larping newfag thinking that medieval tapestry prints have no place in kawaii sweet rococo elf fashion

>>10352940
Finally! I never see it in my size secondhand. I really hope they're not delaying international shipping when it's ready to ship.

>>10352940
This is a dumb question, sorry. The sizes are they (flat) measurements of the garment itself? I really love the purple just waist version and I need to make sure if size 1 is indeed the right size for me.

>>10352916
China-Chan’s buying up all the brand & driving prices up. Just like with the housing market.

>>10352940
Size 0!! Fuck I'm so happy!

>>10352934
I'm in the same boat anon, i wish i was into sweet back when people were selling it cheap

>>10352960
I have heard that J et J sometimes runs large but the dress I have from 2 years ago was TTS. Right on the dot to the listed measurements

>>10352940
>In a situation where the new coronavirus infection (COVID-19) is worried about the world, we will resell the dresses at the campaign price, in order to provide each customer with a feeling of being a little more fun.
>Unicorn horns have a detoxifying effect. I hope this dress will be a charm for you.
lol okay

I love both colours but buying two would be a bit much. What do

>>10353017
Buy both colours, but one in each cut, so you're not technically buying two of the same dress.

>>10352940
They're beautiful, who wouldn't love a dress with a medieval unicorn on it

>>10353011
Different anon but they were asking if those are the garment measurements or the measurements of the person it's made to fit

>>10353048
My wallet does not like this solution, anon.

Beautiful pic OP

>>10352940

Despite me having this dress already I'm always tempted to buy another one? I guess that's how good the dress is.

>In a situation where the new coronavirus infection (COVID-19) is worried about the world, we will resell the dresses at the campaign price, in order to provide each customer with a feeling of being a little more fun.
This is cute.
>Unicorn horns have a detoxifying effect. I hope this dress will be a charm for you.
kek

Uh I like purple much better, but I understand the appeal for red. If it speaks to you I'd buy it, but I do have problems wearing the dress on a more daily basis if that is a factor for you.

>>10353086

Sorry meant to reply to >>10353017

>>10352940
I can't decide on the cut

Does anyone have the one old Meta ad of the girl wearing a crown and rose print dress with the bear backpack? I lost all my lolita folders switching to a new device and I can't find that one photo again...

Hello. I've been to this board for a few times, but never posted before. My girlfriend's birthday is coming up soon and I want to buy her lolita this year.

I'm pretty inexperienced with it, but I know she likes Alice and The Pirates and gothic lolita.

Could you please offer any recommendations for good dresses I can buy her? I was also thinking of getting her a purse to match with it as well.

>>10352909
I’ve modeled for a brand at a con and I had to sit in a room waiting to get my hair and make up done for literally the entire day.

>>10352926
Same experience

>>10353137
You’ll probably find more help in the stupid questions thread, that’s a thread that’s a lot more willing to help with stuff this handholdy. But a few notes are

-if you can talk to her friends who know about her lolita wishlist/taste ask them for help
-unless you find out her wishlist and get a dress off of there it’s reallt easy to go wrong with buying pieces
-while it leaves out the surprise element, you can insure she gets something she’ll love by making a card that works as a voucher for “one free dress” from you.

As a lolita, I have never had a non lolita successfully give me a lolita related gift.

>>10352926
>>10353142
What platform were you selling on?

>>10353144
Thanks for the advice!

>>10353148
Nayrt but I had that too, and on Lacemarket

>>10352909
I model at events a lot and I haven't had the same experience as other anons. There would be a rehearsal for 30 mins before the event started and then we would be expected to be in the changing room 30 mins before the fashion show. It really didn't take up our time. I'd recommend doing it. I've worn a lot of things I never would have bought and it's fun seeing what I look like in different styles. Plus you get some great photos out of it.

>>10353108
Just waist will look more elegant, especially in the purple.

I'm glad I didn't hold off getting tea party tickets for Tekko; they sold out almost immediately. Had to get Sliver as Gold sold out while filling out the purchase form.

>>10352940
I used to like purple high waist, but it's so off my style

>>10353148
Ayrt, lace market.

What's the best way to carry a Lolita?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVUpKIFHqZk

>>10352914
>>10352895
I bought a strawberry-chan ring in 2014 and it vanished in a hotel room; today that same ring is being sold for $80-100 and up. Guess I'm never getting that ring again.

>>10353271
Sage for OT
I consider myself a semi-lifestyle lolita because I love opera singers so much. This particular piece is extremely difficult to pull off and this woman's voice fills a room so easily through the whole thing. I'm in awe...
Any other opera fans here? Have you gone to a show in lolita?

>>10353271
>>10353277
i like her voice but i hate the whole doll shtick. i go to opera in hime actually, comes across well i think.

>>10353282
>the whole doll shtick
The song is from The Tales of Hoffman, it's sung by a mechanical doll in the story. I'm a sucker for appropriate amounts of theatrical accuracy in concerts. It adds a layer of interest and context.

I try to wear toned down looks to operas and concerts, especially when it comes to headwear. I don't want to bother the people sitting behind me with big hair or a big accessory.

>>10353148
Other AYRT and yep LM. Other sales platforms are dogshit for non business sellers, I love LM as a hobbyist.

Posted to the old thread, sorry about that.
So someone on Lacemarket bought a dress from me for super cheap on a new account, they're reselling it for almost 4x the price I sold it to them for on a different account. (It's market value is around 100 dollars - it's double this) I noticed all their other listings are dresses that typically go for around 50-100 dollars all being sold for 100+. I'm fucking pissed. I don't know what to do, it's absolutely the same dress I sold them - they didn't even bother to fix the waistbow or iron it.

>>10353319
There's nothing you can do. You sold the dress and gave up ownership of it. People can do whatever they want. If she's overpricing her listings so much people likely won't buy them anyway.

>>10353321
It's just upsetting since I want my dresses to go to people who want and love the dresses, not for people just to resell.

>>10353319
What's the dress? Like >>10353321 said, you can't do anything about it but you can at least let people know to look out for it.

>>10353319
You can't do anything about it but you can say you refuse to sell to them in your TOS. Mods will honor it. Don't mention anything about the reason why, if you do mods will side with them if they try to buy from you in the future.

Talking about older sweet stuff, what’s with influx of Milky-chan stuff. There were a few of printed pieces in nice condition, fur things, super rare beret. I wonder what’s made people releasing those?

Did Angelic Pretty’s ice cream print release?? I saw someone online say they got one but I wasn’t aware it released already. I haven’t been able to find any info about it on APs websites or insta either.

>>10353350
Might just be people who were in the fashion when it was popular are now old enough to be leaving the fashion or transitioning to more mature styles.

>>10353276
No one is paying those prices, tho. They’re just unsold scalper listings.

>t. Looking for the same ring since a seller ghosted me and watching said listings bitterly

>>10353350
I'm not seeing much other than the usual necklace-cut JSKs and the same two coats on Y!JA. I check for new Milky-chan listings pretty frequently.
Maybe you're experiencing Baader-Meinhof.

>>10353351
It hasn't been released yet, they probably got a slot from the Tokyo only preorder

>>10353351
there was a special reserve at one of the tokyo APs not too long ago, and AP paris has just put up a reservation as well (although sax/pink is sold out already), so they probably mean they were able to reserve one. theyre not set to ship until mid-late march

>>10353351
No. There was a very limited reservation in Tokyo. Not sure if it's been delivered to those people yet because the date for it was March. But the main release has not happened.

>>10353319
Name and shame the seller's two accounts, anon.

>>10353351
AP Paris is still taking reservations

>>10353324
You could, however leave a comment on her listing about how much you sold it to her.

>>10353363
I'm kind of angry AP US hasn't gotten a reservation for this.

>>10353365
It probably will. Chill.

>>10353351
>>10353359
What I hope AP takes away from this is to make more OTT sweet dresses and stop making shit modern dresses. They're selling out just doing reservations. They can't be blind to the fact that there is a huge demand for it.

>>10353364

It might come across as petty but I feel you.

Once sold a really nice almost new set to someone for dirt cheap and they immediately listed and resold individual pieces from it for more than the whole set.

>>10353373
They’ve been doing more and more OTT sweet releases lately. What rock have you been living under?

>>10353379
That's so shitty. I don't mind selling my brand for a low price because I usually want it gone more than I want the money, but people like that make me wonder if I'm just being naive for doing so.

>>10353324
Understandable but there's nothing you can do. You can't control other people's actions. Stop selling your dresses if the possibility of this happening is so upsetting to you.

>>10353227
I know. Just waist tends to look better on me too, but I like how high waist looks a little more casual.

>>10353319
Leave them bad feedback if you can. I feel the same way though anon. I hope this doesn't happen to me. Please tell us the username to avoid.

>>10353354
no one is paying that price but if no one ever lowers the price, then that's their price...

>>10353447
price =/= value

secrets

>>10353234
im confused, is mana gonna be there or nah? missed out on tickets unfortunately :(

>>10353379
If they did sell it because it didn’t suit them/ fit them would you be happy if they sold it for dirt cheap too ?

>>10353319
I usually sell my dresses for the same price I paid, it’s not like I buy anything super rare .

>>10353391
>>10353379
Well if you didn't want the money that much then it's kinda not your place to be butthurt that people wanted to sell it for market value. If they're pricing it too high, it won't sell; if it's selling, then it's on you for setting that lower price.

>>10353271
I've seen this before

>>10353319
This is why I refuse to do buy it nows, everything gets auctioned off. I want my things to go to someone who actually wants to wear it but once you list your things it's out of your hands. If it's bought by a reseller it makes me a little unhappy but life goes on. Keeping prices low is nice of you but it's clearly something less nice people take advantage of. What they do morally isn't very nice but LM has no rules regarding scalping and reselling, there is nothing you can do about it. However, I believe you are not allowed to have more than one account? You should contact a mod because you appear to have sufficient amount of evidence to support that and perhaps one of the accounts will be deleted in result?

>>10352960
JetJ does custom sizing to a degree

>>10353137
Just go to egl.circlly.com and choose alice and the pirates as the brand, it's not difficult

>>10353395
You can refuse to sell to scalpers. I put it in my terms and never had any problems.

>>10353575
Have you ever had a reseller fight you against it?

>>10353580
Yes but I just ignored her

>>10353527
I get that and obviously I'm going to keep selling, but this "muh market value" argument is getting tiring. (a) Clearly it's not market value and (b) If you're not allowed to vent about these things on /cgl/, where can you?

>>10353593
Maybe vent in the feels thread where you’re supposed to and not in the general like an attention whore

>>10353602
Wow you seem upset

>>10353603
Stop projecting and take it to the right thread next time

>>10353603
>current year
>unironically using umad/you seem upset

>>10353604
Was just expressing surprise at the hostile response to a fairly mild post, that's all.

>>10353608
If you consider that a “hostile response” I don’t think this is the website for you. >>10353593 even asked where was appropriate to vent. Calm down.

>>10353603
It's just butthurt scalpers coping for the millionth time, like every time we discuss them. I thought that was obvious.

You all have no idea how angry I am atm

>Order something back in Jan
>Manufacturing time is 4-5 weeks, dats okay
>Email them 5 weeks later for an update
>Order is delayed due to virus, shipping is next week, dats okay
>Email them 2 and a half weeks later since tracking has not been updated.
>Get a response today (its Sunday), package went out and they give a tracking, great!
>Check tracking, package was mailed on the 26th and got sent back on the 2nd due to "Insufficient Address"
>Kill me

I can't call USPS to catch this because its Sunday and the package already went back to ISC. Had my tracking code been given when the fucking package had been sent none of this would have happen.

Should I just ask for a refund? Because I have a feeling they're going to ask for me to cover shipping to send it back and I'm not going through this shit again.

>>10353645
Not everyone is a scalper paranoia-chan. Telling someone to vent in the feels thread and not the general doesn’t magically make someone a scalper.

Is anyone else tired of seeing Holly be a Jfashion guests at cons like she is someone with some authority or good style? I like Lor but why the heck are cons treating her beginner gf as a guest when she has zero to offer and no lolitas actually look up to her or want to meet her? You don't see other well known lolitas elevating their partner to guest or jfash idol just because.

Lately a lot of people have been complaining about Tyler and Lor. What type of Youtube lolita content would people like to see? Deerstalker type stuff?
OR is Youtube just fundamentally bad for lolita stuff? I am really sick of vlogs and hauls.

>>10353989
At least for me, the problem with Lor and Tyler is not so much the content of their videos as them. I just don't find their personalities particularly engaging. I'll occasionally watch Tyler because she seems like a nice person and I'm sometimes interested in the stuff she's covering, but it's sad that she's one of the top lolita bloggers because content of the same standard would not be this glorified in other hobbies.

For Lor I guess it's kind of a double-whammy I'm either not interested in her topics or I'm not interested in her take on it because I don't really respect her opinion.

>>10353991
No idea why I said blogger, I obviously meant Youtuber!

>>10353989
speaking of lolita yters, any suggestions for any that put out recent content other than lor and tyler and fluffy kowai jo? Not really fond of any of them, but I watch them because I want to see lolita content. Sometimes I go as far as watching some of Peachies old shit just because.

>>10353947
Where has she been a guest?

>>10353995
I like Dodo the Extinct, Lou Graves, Rosenocturnalia, and Kim Darling.

>>10353995
Depends what you want. There are a lot of vloggers and hauls. There are some that do like videos about specific dresses.
I don't know of any that do sketches. If someone has some post them.

>>10353999
Thanks. I have heard of Lou and Rose (i like the former but not really the latter, too much drama) but hadn't heard of the others, thanks!

>>10354000
Tbh really anything current is nice. Especially if it's not drama and/or people thinking they have to put out there opinion on things going on in the lolita communities (i don't like that at all, which is why I'm not fond of rosenocturnalia/tyler/lor). I really just want fun lolita content, not drama and pettiness, if that makes sense. Even though I find fluffy kowai jo cringy (hence the intentional misspelling), I still watch some of her stuff because it's fresh and somewhat interesting, like her (cringy) action lolita thing

>>10354000
not that anon, but i want to see more burando hauls and detail shots

>>10353989
I miss deerstalker desu

>>10354009
Candy Carnival is current for hauls and I kind of like her. I liked MIlkbox but I think she hasn't posted in a long time.

For detailed shots there is Poppy Noir (not sure if she still posts) and Emmylou (new so who knows if they will keep posting). When JEMMA does unboxings she does good detailed shots, but she does a lot of non-lolita things.

Rufflechat has a thread for people to post their channels and it is a good way to find new creators. Honestly most of the videos are hauls, so I would love any suggestions that are not that.

>>10354016
Same.

>>10354006
Check the Rufflechat thread for new people.

>>10353989
Every time someone is popular on YT the community shits on them. I started when Deer Stalker and Peachy were big and I thought something was wrong with Milky Fawn and Peachy for years until I realized that this community will complain about literally everything

>>10353995
I like Fallen Princess, but she doesn't post all that often. I think she's starting to make more videos though.

>>10354045
>Every time someone is popular on YT the community shits on them.
This. Nobody wants to be a target. This is why we have so few content creators.

>>10354045

I miss Princess Peachie so much. She just posts old Japan vlogs now which are cute but I miss her being sweet and just talking to the camera a ton.

Milky fawn was really cute and Deerstalker in general was like a window into a group of friends having a good time together, plus their scripted content was a really cute and fun twist on relatable lolita experiences.

>>10354129
>I miss Princess Peachie so much. She just posts old Japan vlogs now which are cute but I miss her being sweet and just talking to the camera a ton.
Same :(

>>10353989
I miss MC Melod¥ Doll

>>10354153
You can still find her around. She gained a lot of weight

>>10354006
Looking through subscriptions and playlists of people who comment really helps with discovering new stuff too.

>>10354153
>MC Melod¥ Doll
https://www.instagram.com/melody_doll/

>>10354156
>>10354218
I meant her raps, not her as a person.

Wow new Moitie looks like trash

>>10354156
Is that why she never posts full body shots anymore?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG_cnu7rfn0
I really love watching other people's room and wardrobe tours and would be so excited if someone like Misako showed each piece of such a huge wardrobe!

>>10354242
Everything is great but the shoes, why do newfags not understand gothic

>>10353998
the thing in Mexico later this year and the thing in Vegas, both are advertising "lor and holly" as guests

>>10354242
I'd rather go to Boz for simple pieces like this.

>>10354283
I kind of like it (I'm sweet but admire goth).
I will say it has a little bit of business suit lolita vibes.

>>10354256
That sucks for her. She’s got a couple shots of her full body and she’s not really that big, no more so than plenty of other lolitas. It’s just everyone’s always going to compare her to what she looked like when she was a teenager because that’s when she was known. That would suck

Why burando is so expensive if their cuts are so simple. Like rectangular(s) for skirt and also for bodice without any fitting

>>10354242
The coord would look so much better if it was simply styled in a more traditional Moitie way. The makeup and shoes don’t say Moitie at all, as doesn’t the parasol. If I didn’t know this was Moitie I would peg it as TaoBao. It’s not awful. It’s wearable. It’s just not Moitie.

>>10354349
This has been answered tons of times. You should probably take this to the stupid questions thread

>>10353271
I like it! Her voice is beautiful albeit I wish they did a bit more with her hair since it contrasts a bit with her outfit.

>>10353947
I'm so tired of it,too. Also the asskissing in COF just becuase she is her GF.

>>10353947
I’m pretty sure Lor refuses to go to a convention now without Holly as her “cameraman“ and makes the con pay for her flight.
Maybe if a con is going to pay for her girlfriend to fly there they might as well try to milk any PR they can out of it? Because people do know who she is, even if it’s not warranted

>>10354349
This post reminds me of that fat middle-aged "seamstress" in every comm who sees a brand dress and claims she could "make the same thing for $50".

>>10354415
Is anyone actually a fan of Holly though? I'm no Lor fan but I can at least acknowledge that plenty of people are. I'm sure people like and know Holly, but do people actually follow her?

>>10352516
Why in the living heck would anyone wear sweet lolita or gothic lolita as an adult? classic lolita is where it's at

>>10354479
Everyone above the age of 18/21 is an adult, what do you mean?

>>10354479
Nice bait try again.

>>10354342
it's all about how you take care of yourself anon, I'm in my late twenties and still own pants from my teen years and have almost no lines and wrinkles on my face.

>>10354352
I agree with you, except that's literally a moitie parasol...

>>10352668
Did they take this with a frickin flip-phone

What is the best shopping service to buy on mercari?
I only know Muh, but I'm open for other Shopping services :)

>>10354487
are you joking?

>>10354485
Cool but no one claimed otherwise? We're talking about a specific person and no one mentioned anything about her lifestyle or habits, just objectively stated she gained weight.

>>10353989
I really like cake calamity. Her recent content hasn’t been very lolita focused but I still enjoy it.

>>10354485
Just wait a couple more years. Early 30s is when it hits.
But iirc Melody had some sort of protracted illness, that’s going to take a toll on the body/face

>>10354415
I understand wanting to get her a free trip (hell if I was in the same boat I'd do the same for my partner) but she doesn't have to try to shove her down our throats are force her into guest announcements. No one gives a shit about Holly beyond kissing her ass to get brownie points with Lor.

>>10353989
Honestly, I'm fine with the type of content that Lor and Tyler put out, I just don't really like Lor. There are a few other girls that contribute more valuable things to the fashion and/or are more knowledgeable on the matter who's opinions I'd actually care about but it's Lor that everyone's looking to as a "figurehead". And ever since they became friends Tyler won't shut the fuck up about her, which put me off her content too.

>>10354520

I lowkey miss Pixielocks a bit. She had mediocre style and looks worse now out of lolita but some of her content back with her old bf Tristan was really cute and she could have turned out to be cool if she'd stuck with it rather than getting involved in k8s lace shit and quitting, since her shopping habits and large amount of income via her parents would have funded her wardrobe for years.

If she had actually gone to bunka like she wanted she'd have had a chance to do interesting stuff with it.

Sucks things never panned out for her, but not everyone ends up living their dreams I guess. Maybe we should start a thread for old lolita content we miss? Then new creators might see it and be inspired to make things part of the community wants.

>>10354524
Agreed, she made that cute night before Christmas video, there was so much potential

>>10354442
I actually can. Its my job

>>10354541
Good for you if you aren't full of shit but the average lolita "seamstress" has neither the skills nor the access to proper materials for a good price to actually make something brand-comparable for $50.

>>10354520
>And ever since they became friends Tyler won't shut the fuck up about her, which put me off her content too.
This.
I don't understand it and I wish she'd stop bringing up lor in her videos.

>>10354524
Yeah I think she was okay at first too. She seems to be chilling out as she ages so who knows, maybe she will get better. Probably won't be a lolita again since she rage quit.

Make that thread.

Apologies if this doesn't belong in this thread
>Be me
>From some Northern European country
>Not many COVID-19 cases yet *just wait*

I'm thinking seriously not attending this upcoming event in Spain during late-March. I've spent already +600€ in accomodation, plane tickets, coords etc etc and God I want to go to a "biggish" event so badly, but all this news about the virus and the general psicosis is getting into me.

>Spending half of my day reading /cvg/ doesn't help

>>10354573
Well if they cancel your trip, at least you can spend your refund on brand

>>10354573
Dont worry about coronavirus, im spanish and people here are fucking drama bitches, in general Bcn isnt that different from other EU countries. Keep calm and have fun!!!!

>>10354565
doesn't lor get way more views than tyler? it makes sense if so

>>10354503
Are you retarded? They released 2 parasols last year and that's one of them. The shoes are probably moitie from theur archive, too

>>10354726
uh, we know it's moitie, we just think it looks like shit.

>>10354704
I'm not sure what you're getting at. Are you implying that she mentions her for clout? If so that makes it worse imo, it would mean Tyler is just another fame whore instead of someone who wanted to make content just because she loves it, which might be naive to think, but I genuinely thought that's what she was in it for.

>>10354738
of course she does it for fame.

Pina Sweet Collection - Pina Doll Petal OP (ピナ ドールペタルワンピース)
33,000 yen (tax incl.)
Comes in Silver-sax (pictured) and Pink.
>https://atelier-pierrot.shop-pro.jp/?mode=srh&sort=n&cid=&keyword=a19002

>>10354524
there are Lolita YouTubers out there but it’s either they don’t get seen or the community can be too jarring to break into without people gossiping or starting shit, IMO

>>10354837
This is actually a fair point. There's very little to be gained from being a lolita youtuber. The community is so small that your absolute best-case scenario is reaching Lor's size, and Lor still has under 100k subscribers so the monetary rewards just aren't really there. And sure, you can do it "for the love of the community", but all you're going to get in return from the community is snark and shitstirring.

Really, I can see why people with actual talent might be reluctant to enter the fray. I think it would be nice to see a popular youtuber who just happens to wear lolita, rather than it being the main focus of her channel. Maybe with a few lolita-specific videos for people who are interested in that.

>>10354129
Me too :( I actually unsubscribed finally when her channel became straight Japan vlogs. I feel bad, but I just never cared for travel vlog content (from anyone)

>>10354485
>and then the whole restaurant clapped

>>10354842
I’d consider a blog before a YT channel if you wanted to do long form content. Sure, the viewer return is even smaller, but the time investment is a lot lower. I can’t see putting all that work into editing videos with the best outlook possible being lor sized and taking endless shit for existing

>>10354854
Agreed. I have a friend who has a small Lolita youtube channel. I’ve considered it myself but in this climate it seems you have to be absolutely spotless in action and in your knowledge or people may come for you, and no one is like that. (Eg: lor has a lolcow thread, and even though I don’t like her, I wouldn’t go that far to actively shit on her.)

>>10354856
Edition to my post: decided to check that thread and it’s actually dead so my bad there. Though I do see people talk about her here so there is still the gossip/shitstir aspect with some language used.

>>10353126
Could this be it, anon? She's wearing a bonnet, but it's the only similar ad I could think of.

>>10354863
I think anon meant "crown and rose print" dress, not crown and "rose print" dress.

>>10354856
That thread is dead since she doesn't do anything worth talking about. It is dumb. I get people think she isn't cute, but it isn't like she is doing anything worth gossiping about.

>>10353989
Tutorials and discussing new trends and releases, discussing articles/magazines. If you don't speak Japanese I guess you could use kerastyle. I'd also be interested in pictures and reviews of restaurants and other places to visit or books and movies (I wouldn't call it lifestyle).

>>10354075
Mte. And people will argue that that's normal and alright because it's the internet, but other niche fashions don't have a board on 4channel so they don't get this amount of anons openly shitting on them.

>>10354565
....it's normal to mention your friends and talk about them? Especially when you both happen to be members of the same fashion community that is the focus of your content.

>>10354891
Honestly I think a lot of this is caused by the fact that there are a lot of neurotic, mentally ill girls in Lolita and especially /cgl/ (fight me on that all you want but I've been on /cgl/ for ten years and known several real-life lurkers and this has held true in my experience). People develop these insane hate-crushes on people for no reason and they're convinced that it's normal because "that's how things are here". It may be, but that doesn't mean it's good for the community and it's certainly not good for their mental health either.

>>10354948
THIS. I know there are people like this in a lot of niche communities but I feel like it isn't as public as it is here.

>>10354893
Tyler has a whole ass comm she never mentions members of. I'm pretty sure at least one of the girls I've seen in pictures with her has a YouTube channel and would appreciate (and could actually use) the shoutout.

>>10355112
Betting you're that girl with the youtube channel, your content probably sucks

>>10355112
Plenty of people have YouTube channels. Like multiple people in her comm, but it would cause problems if she called out one person out and not another. She and Lor probably are friends, but they are collabing. Lor mentions her too. It is fine.

>>10354541

>>10354853
That's actually not unreasonable

>>10354851
Same...her old videos pushed me to get into lolita, but she's clearly not a travel host. I'd love to see more lolita content from her.

>>10354573
They postponed the event

>>10354948
This fashion is a real bummer when you go online & see the petty drama. Hate-crushes are amusing but at the same time retarded af.

Ice cream parlour is getting released this weekend but you need to apply to a lottery online to even be allowed in the store..... suddenly I don’t have much hope for my SS spot

>>10355251
Shit really? The blood baths get bloodier..

>>10355256
Yep - it’s to help prevent against spreading coronavirus (I guess so everyone comes at a certain time as determined by the lottery, not all at once) but it’s just going to make getting this even more stressful

>>10355251
Tenshi mentioned that AP is also releasing a new blouse and wristcuffs, but I can't find images of these anywhere? Does anyone know where to see these? On another note, how can I sign up for AP Tokyo's newsletter, if there is one?

>>10355278
Look at the AP site closer.

>>10355281
Ugh. I finally found the blouse and wristcuffs. That took me too long to find... Do you know if it's possible to subscribe to a newsletter of sorts for the Tokyo store?

Honestly I was hyped for this release, but I'm kind of giving up on it. Looks like it really is polyester and not cotton like everyone hoped. I guess I'll wait for the USA release and see how I feel about it then. I have a feeling prices for this on mercari are going to be scalped to hell and back.

>>10355278
This is hideous. I don't understand why people want it.

>>10355324
hard agree. i'm into OTT sweet too so it's not like i'm biased. it's sad that the best colorway is the redxblue

>>10355288

Their twitter is more reliable -- ap_tokyoten. It's not really complete, though, owing to twitter format they mostly hype up upcoming tokyo store exclusive events. Still, between checking that and the ap website you'll have nearly everything.

Though.. does anyone remember which release is a cumpus skirt?

>>10355163
How is this affect to the people and vendors that cannot get there on the new date? Wil they refund the tickets?

>>10355288
Would you mind sharing what they look like, anon?

>>10355388
http://www.angelicpretty.com/newarrival/newarrival/index_20200314.htm

>>10355324
Desperate for anything resembling ott sweet

Jane Marple is releasing 4-strap shoes on Friday, March 13th.
Price: 54,800 yen
Colours: black, white, bordeaux and dark brown
Sizes: S, M, L
>https://www.fashion-press.net/news/59280

>>10355376
Not at this moment, only aplaced to another date

Possible upcoming VM release?
>https://www.instagram.com/p/B9llmdClPJA/

>>10331388
To the moron who INSISTED these socks had brown tops and that wasn’t the models leg, you were wrong. I was right. Get WRECKED.

>>10355525
I’m also laughing at the retards who thought those were fishnets and not ice cream cone patterned.

>>10355525
This is the kind of spite that I love seeing on here, bless you anon

>>10355525
And here you are again with your unstable reactions.

>>10355527
they're still ugly as sin.

>>10352951
nayrt but I hate it too. no lace. no ruffles. just a print.
honestly, if this were a solid color material and not a print it would look just like a normie sundress. I hate it.

>>10355535
They look cute to me. The dress is ugly

>>10355540
they are better than the dress, i'll give you that. i just wish the contrast on the waffle cone wasn't so harsh.

>>10355288
Is there a confirmation yet if it is cotton or poly?

>>10355545
are you blind?

>>10355545
look at it

>>10355278
this sucks because the art is so adorable, but everything else is shit

>>10354825
That front shirring is going to look shit on anyone with larger breasts. Unfortunately, that's who is going to buy it because shirring.

>>10355547
>>10355550
So which is it?

>>10355573
it's fucking polyester you moron. shit's more poly than a fat fujoshi with a pride flag.

>>10355525
>Get WRECKED
Anon, it's not healthy to hold on a grudge for so long

>>10355278
>tfw I like it

I’ve been defending AP’s quality for months but I’m finally over it. The zipper on my brand new AP dress broke before I even got a chance to wear it. I’m gentle with my clothes and zippers.
>inb4 “Yoire just fat”
I didn’t even get a chance to put the dress on, it broke as I was unzipping the zipper.

>>10355525
This is supremely petty and i’m here for it. Anon was so bizarrely adamant that it was brown I assumed they were trolling

>>10355608
Were you even in the same convo? Even anon's cap makes her look unhinged
>i think it looks brown but we'll just have to see
>FUCK YOU BITCH IT'S NOT, I'LL BE LAFFIN WHEN IT FINALLY COMES OUT
Anon clearly needs to get some more friends if she has the time to remember this shit a month later.

>>10355487
I wish I could justify a $550 pair of shoes. JM's 4 strap shoes are so versatile and cute.

>>10355324
Agreed. The print is mediocre at best and that bib is heinous. I know everyone calls brand taobao tier over nothing, but this honestly reminds me of a taobao design.

>>10355610
Not that she doesn't sound crazy, but to be fair brown sock anon did call her an idiot first.

>>10355278
I wanna see these in a good coord, ott prints usually attract itas

>>10355634

The print itself is disappointing. The artwork has the potential to be cute but going for highlighting the vertical stripes and using contrasting colors in the way that they did they made it either harder to coord or more versatile to coord depending on how skilled you are.

It'll be really easy to have a bad coord even if you're not usually an ita because of the print imo. I was hoping for more of a cotton candy shop or lyrical bunny type print where there are vertical accents but more focus along the border like a lot of OTT sweet.

>>10355622
Same. These shoes are gorgeous but even though I can afford it's just not justified to spend that much on shoes. I'm the kind of dumbass that tries to be really careful not to scuff my shoes but I always end up with them. Plus I heard sizing sometimes runs large, you order m and end up with the equivalent of a size L. Expensive mistake.

>>10355651
I see these come up fairly often on second-hand Japanese sites anyway, usually heavily discounted.

>>10355653
Nayrt but good to know, I’m gonna have to start checking for them

>>10355525
It’s not part of the sock but it’s probably just another pair of tights rather than bizarre skin. The turn around for models changing in a different outfits in a runway show can be very short

>>10355391
They don’t seem to go very well. I like the bunny blouse but that sailor style collar won’t look good with a white bib front, it would look much better with a Peter Pan collar. And the wrist cuffs have gingham? And a strawberry? Those seem like weird choices

>>10355586
So do I. But I am getting kind of sick of every really sweet print that’s being released having all these long stripes. Fluer cat, strawberry doll, I could go on

>>10355487
Fuck, I was just lamenting a few days ago that these could only be bought secondhand.

I see them secondhand every so often too, but never discounted enough for their condition.

>>10355278
This print is what happens when AP tries to pander to two markets at once. The stripes are just not it, it almost looks like they’re trying to give it a more mature look with the stripe pattern?? But then it’s an OTT sweet print?? It looks like a cross between what the American sweets want and what the Chinese girls want

>>10355278
Perfect for clown-kei

>>10355700

The contrasting colors and vertical stripes make it look like a carnival print.

Sad when BTSSB beats AP at their own game and releases the better ice cream bunny and bear sweet print.

These were listed on LM

Actually not awful but definitely not worth the price when compared to the actual HC jewelry.

>>10355724
I think the only reason a lot of lolitas want this print is because they couldn’t get the Baby one. Not all, but a good amount.

>>10355744
$60 lmao. I can buy real AP jewelry for that.

>>10355278
The ice cream is so cute, the animals are so cute, stripes are cute but put it all together and I’m disappointed. The ice cream should have been bigger and the stripes smaller..

>>10355744

Holy shit someone actually bought it for $60

>>10355744
Fun Fact: It is illegal to sell things made with those molds. it says in the mook. Not that anyone really cares unless she is selling a lot.

>>10355801
with what molds?

>>10355376
they said tickets will not be refunded
shitty

>>10355520
I'm not really digging these super plain releases from VM and IW lately. Just a little trim or ruffle at the bottom would look nice.

>>10355812
AP released a mook that had the honey bear molds in it so you could bake your own chocolates or jewelry. Awhile back, dunno when exactly, probably around when they released honey cake the first time

>>10355817
I kinda like them for a change. I like the simple, clean look. I wouldn't want a whole wardrobe of that, though.

>>10355744
>at least they're not hella scratched right?

>>10355817
>lately
It's very similar to this coat from 2014

>>10355833
Yeah, it just seems like a trend rn. I'm not saying they've never done it before.

>>10355801
not if ap doesn't have the copyright registered in the country where they are being made

Are there any rituals or habits you do before getting dressed up?

>>10355947
I have my butthole inspected

>>10355651
They are leather, so you're supposed to size down.

>>10355947
shower, light candles/incense, turn on MM, do my makeup and hair, get dressed all cute, dance around a bit

>>10355947
Shower, brush hair, skincare + makeup, listen to random YouTube video or music (future funk has happy vibes) and dance around.

>>10355988
>>10355994
>light candles/incense
>Dance around
Oh good, I'm not the only one.

>>10355994
>>10356007
cute, i'm glad i'm not the only one to do all of this stuff. i have talked about it in the past with other lolita friends and most just seem to put on clothes and go to meets. lol

>>10356007
>>10356011
Heck yea we living our best lives with brand & music ofc we dancin!

So uhh is anyone concerned that corona chan is getting cons cancelled? I wonder if any brand releases will be postponed? We already have that raffle situation AP has put in place for the new release this weekend.

>>10355947
Pull everything out of my wardrobe deciding what to wear

>>10355622
>I know everyone calls brand taobao tier over nothing, but this honestly reminds me of a taobao design.
I love how someone says this for nearly every release.
>they’re all wrong!
>except this time because now I agree!

>>10355953
More like
>have my butthole inspected by my aristocrat bf with MM playing in the background

>>10356078
>tfw no EGA bf

Can we expect more chaos in releases due to coronavirus?

>>10353276
I know that feel though. I lost a ring in a hotel. It had come broken and I had glued it together but I lost it after I wore it to a concert. I was so sad because it was the first accessory I had bought new to match a print I bought for my birthday. I don't think I'd be able to find it again.

>>10355947
Smoke a bowl in my bloomers so I dont ash on my brand lmao

>>10356171
That’s a mood

Where do you guys go for coord inspiration? It seems like it's pretty difficult to find coords with specific prints/dresses. Is there an archive anywhere of coords per dress? I'd love if a website like that could be created. I guess there's the issue of privacy, but if it's taken from public social media like Instagram I see no problem.

Maybe it could even be added to an existing lolita platform like Lolibrary? People could submit their own coords using certain items. If nothing else, I think I'm going to start tagging my posts with print and item names, and I hope you guys will consider it too!

>>10356207
iirc someone had posted folders (on dropbox or something?) where they collect inspo of specific prints. It was some cof-threads ago but perhaps someone saved them.

>>10356207
I believe there was a thread recently where someone had folders upon folders of coords from older dresses.

>>10356207
>>10329800

There you go

>>10356213
Ah, that's really cool! Still think it would be nice to archive these for posterity somewhere online.

>>10356217
I'd love to do something like that but there'd be too many drama about chosen coord pictures and copyrights. It's people in those dresses after all.

>>10356220
Maybe set up something where people can submit their coords to the archive? May cause drama in itself but If there was a few veterans of the fashion across various styles it could work?

>>10356220
>>10356222
I think the easiest way indeed would be to have people submit their own coords, though it would be best to have contributors be vetted initially after which they can freely upload their coords. I'm no expert at webdesign but I would really love to help out with something like this, as well as submit my own coords. Maybe one of those Wiki template websites could be used? If anyone is interested in making this work, feel free to email me!

>>10355947
Not much other than showering and hair-styling/makeup, really. Sometimes I listen to music but I'm near-daily so I guess it wouldn't be practical to make too much of a ceremony out of it (all my respect to people who do, though).

>>10356171
You should get a vape, they're lifechanging

>>10356233
>get a vape
this.

What percentage of your monthly income do you spend on lolita on average?

>>10356246
About half of it (and save the rest for future purchases, in case any of my dream items pop up)
I'm a student and live at home because even though I do earn my own money, it's not yet enough to move out!

>>10356252
>it’s not enough to move out
No shit it’s not. You’re spending half your income on lolita

>>10356246
My flexible expense budget is 8% of my take home. It may or may not go to lolita, but most months it goes to frills

>>10356268
It would be not enough to move out regardless lol, I might need a second job to do it (which I'm actually considering at this point)

>>10356246
this seems useless without solid numbers.

>>10356273
I’m >>10356269 and it’s $160/month. I build my wardrobe pretty slowly but I’m good about not wasting money on dumb purchases which helps.

>>10356209
They created they’re own coord archive thread, should still be around

>>10356273
I'm curious about how people prioritize lolita in relation to other responsibilities, and I think it makes more sense to do it in percentages.

So for me, 20% of my income (+100% of overtime money) goes directly into saving for a house, 40-45% goes towards bills, 20% goes towards food costs including eating out, and 10-15% to lolita. The rest goes towards personal care and misc. hobbies.

>>10354489
probably, considering Mana is like 51.

>>10356220
Pinterest doesn't care about copyright and destroyed Google image search in the process.

>>10356229
Do you remember Cosplay Paradise?
That format seems good for this sort of thing.

>>10356246
exactly 12%, sometimes more if I do some overtime at work, although I often put that money in savings or use it as vacation money. I've slowed down my spending on lolita significantly.

>>10356460
Fuck Pinterest. I fucking hate trying to look for anything and all it goes is lead me in a fucking circle instead of just taking me to the goddamn original source

>>10356246
I'm about to get a lot of hate, but I spend about 25% to 50% on lolita. I'm in a very fortunate situation where the money I make is kind of the cherry on top of what my partner makes. We do not need my income to exist, therefore some months I spend nothing on lolita if the market is bad, and some months I spend a lot.

>>10356246
Not a percentage because my income varies month to month, but probably about $1000 a month on average

>>10356207
It would be nice if people could submit their own and you could like/upvote the results so they'd be sorted with the most popular first. I don't think low-quality coords should be moderated because a shit coord can still give you a good idea of the materials and fit of the item. Users should be able to report a submission for being under the wrong item name, a replica, explicit, or posted without their permission, but there shouldn't be downvotes/dislikes - it would discourage submissions. Showing only the best of the best sounds like a good idea when you're thinking of Honey Cake or whatever, but when you get to some obscure oldschool dress it's better to have a shit coord available than nothing at all. That's my ideal scenario.

>>10356207
I like how on instagram if you search a tag of a print name you will usually just get photos of lolita. So I usually tag with the print name and it seems to work just fine.

>>10356750
I wish people tagged print names more often

>>10356855
Same, and with non-print dress names. Seeing worn photos is usually a big deciding factor whether I should buy a piece or not.

>>10356873
this. Instagram is absolutely were I find more recently worn photos to see how people are styling older dresses. I noticed though if you try and look up anything Bodyline related it's much more harder to find good coords.

>>10356158
Closetchild has done a big update today and that gave me this idea. What if second hand stores put more stuff online instead of selling them in store? Although I don’t really think that’s plausible.

>>10352516
Why do people say AP/burando has regressed? If anything they're just updating the lolita style so we won't look like we're still stuck in 2007.

>>10357002
What's wrong with AP guys?!

>>10357004
>AP is shi-
$328 worth to pay unironically. But if I'd find this secondhand how much would I pay for it ya think?

>>10357005
I've seen it NWOT for about $200 on LM once, but that's been the first and last time I've seen it secondhand

>>10357004
Lol I was thinking about these ribbon headbands recenly, they're actually cute. Altough I'm not quite ready to pay a brand price for such a simple thing.

>>10357002
Quality control. The designs are fine but the fabric is noticeably flimsier and construction is worse. This applies to cotton too, not just polyester.

>>10356946
It’s not worth it for closetchild to put most items online because they’ll sell in store for much less admin. Their model is basically to try and sell something in store for about 2 weeks - a month, and if it doesn’t sell then they usually put it up on the site. If Coronavirus gets worse in japan they should consider readjusting to try and sell more online but I don’t see them straying from their current model desu

Did paradiso get canned?

>>10357056
I'm all for CC moving to a more online model, but parts of this are also false.

When I was in Japan, visiting CC's every day, I also still watched the site. Same day uploads rarely had things I saw in stores. I think the model is more, "if we can sell this quick, don't list it online," then wait and list it when it doesn't sell. But most new stock appearing online is, in fact, new.

I was actually disappointed that the stores had barely anything that wasn't online, but it comforted me that I wasn't missing out on too much.

>Meet up for this month got cancelled
>cant even get mad because theres some old ass people in my comm

Anyone able to get anything in the ice cream release?
I was able to get the barrette and socks in mint, but main pieces sold out too fast.

>>10357141
Nope. I had the JSK in my cart and as I was checking out it was sold out

>>10357056
>>10357123

The individual shops actually use twitter to hype up the newest "hot" arrival to drive foot traffic to their physical shops. Generally if you see a CC branch post a dress on twitter, it's gone within the week, usually within hours if it's a really sought after, popular dress.

Things is, all the other girls that head to the store are likely to spend money on other stuff since they've already made the trip to the store, so actually, closet child makes more money keeping its stores open for the girls who impulse buy things this way, rather than putting it all online.

>>10357141
my SS was able to get me a pink JSK, but no accessories unfortunately - at least i wasn't a huge fan of the waffle pattern on the socks anyway i suppose....

>>10357141
Nope. I’m heartbroken but hoping that AP sees the demand for this print and does an MTO.

>>10357234
Congrats!!

>>10357141
I’m disgusted that it’s already being scalped on Fril. The first AP print I’ve wanted in a long time and instead of the dresses going to people who want them this shit happens. I really hope there’s a second release or better, an MTO so everyone who wanted this print can get it.

Moi-même-Moitié
New Releases † Rose Forest Lace OP, Blue Jewel Eyeglass Case, Lace Gloves with Cross Charm, Lace Gloves with Teardrop Charm

>>10357239
im like, almost certain this will get an MTO at some point so i wouldnt worry - on the bright side, we can laugh at the people paying scalper prices later on

>>10357240
Rose Forest Lace OP

Our new dress received its name from Mana-sama himself.
A light OP made from lace over georgette fabric in anticipation of the coming spring and summer seasons.
White lace × black colorway: black rose lace fabric
Black lace × black colorway: light grey rose lace fabric
Waist and sleeves are elastic. Size adjustable via waist ribbon.

【Size】
Length・back neck ~ hem 98cm (skirt length including frill・59.5cm)
Bust・91~100cm
Waist・76~100cm
Shoulder width・31cm
Sleeve opening・22~38cm
Hem circumference・203cm

【Material】
Outer material・100% polyester
Lining・100% polyester
Neckline lace・100% rayon
Hem lace・base fabric 100% nylon, embroidery upper thread 100% rayon, embroidery bobbin thread 100% cotton
Ribbon・100% polyester

【Price】
36.000JPY (+tax)

Made in Japan

>>10357243

>>10357244
Blue Jewel Eyeglass Case

Can be used not only for glasses and sunglasses but also for accessories and other small items.
Made with the help of our Online Salon members who gave their input on details like print and size.

【Size】
Width・7.5cm
Length・16cm
Height・5cm
Includes two microfiber cloths (blue jewel and logo)
18.0cmx15.0cm

【Price】
4.000JPY (+tax)

>>10357241
Thanks anon, this made me feel better. I think you’re right

>>10357245
Lace Gloves with Cross Charm

Using Moi-même-Moitié's original cross lace and cross charms, these elegant lace gloves will add the finishing touch to your coordinate.
Black gloves come with a silver cross charm, white gloves with a gold cross charm.
Please note that black and white gloves are made from different lace.

【Size】
Hand circumference (measure circumference approximately above your thumb): 20cm
Length (tip of the middle finger to wrist): 20cm
Lace: 7.5cm
Wrist circumference: 13~18cm (elastic)

【Material】
100% polyester
Lace: Base fabric 100% nylon, embroidery upper thread 100% rayon, embroidery bobbin thread 100% cotton

【Price】
4.600JPY (+tax)

>>10357247
Lace Gloves with Teardrop Charm

Using Moi-même-Moitié's original cross lace and a teardrop charm, these elegant lace gloves will add the finishing touch to your coordinate.

The teardrop charm charm's gradation is from blue to purple for the white colorway and clear to black for the black colorway.
Please note that black and white gloves are made from different lace.

【Size】
Hand circumference (measure circumference approximately above your thumb): 20cm
Length (tip of the middle finger to wrist): 20cm
Lace: 7.5cm
Wrist circumference: 13~18cm (elastic)

【Material】
100% polyester
Lace: Base fabric 100% nylon, embroidery upper thread 100% rayon, embroidery bobbin thread 100% cotton

【Price】
4.600JPY (+tax)

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【Release Date (all)】
March 19, 3pm JST

>>10357123
That is the opposite of my experience shopping regularly instore over many years so idk what to tell you. There are many items sold instore that are never uploaded online because they are gone within a few days/weeks after twitter hyping as >10357233 described. Items uploaded on the online store have always been items I’ve seen hanging around instore longer. You can also see that they wait about two weeks after twitter hyping an item to put it on the online store if it doesn’t sell if you’re watching closely.

>>10357245
I wish this didn't have the MmM logo on it, I think it would be much nicer without.

How long does it usually take Baby SF to send out reservation items? I preordered most of the accessories from the Devil Cat series, and it's up on their site for normal order. But my order hasn't shipped? They usually have very quick turnaround with stuff that's in stock so I'm worried it fell through the cracks.

>>10357248
I'd genuinely believe those are from an indie brand if you told me.
They're so shit for that price

>>10357116
No

new bread >>10357296

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>>10357248
awful