/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

COMING SOON!!
. . 《name of guardian》 . . .
The new trainee wizard and witch series will be available around 5 p.m. on Feb. 14th

Please enjoy feeling like a guardian in the magical world…

>>10338491

>>10338492

>>10338491
>>10338492
dope

>>10338495
Looks like RPG healer clothes

>>10338495

>>10338500

>>10338502

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>>10338498
i love it for this reason
>gonna wear to DnD session

>>10338498
the whole line looks like some cute lolita themed mmo party/

>>10338504
I'm seriously hyped gulls and haven't bought from meta for a while. Do you think the line will sell out soon?

>>10338524
meta always knocks it out with these damn double breasted numbers.

>>10338524

>>10338524
It def will. There is a ton of hype especially with the white (same colour as hospitality doll) so I can see that going fast. The vest and pants will not sell as quickly as the dresses.

>>10338524
Even if it doesn't, you're probably not going to have a good time finding it secondhand
military inspired stuff just never seems to popup

>>10338491
I’d buy the white in a heartbeat if not for those darn wide sleeves

I just want the darn adorable name tag

>>10338491
>>10338492
i need

>>10338524
>>10338532
Bit confusing how this particular green's style is mixed in with a completely different product listing.

>>10338782
It's >>10338492 and >>10338495 together, they all come in several colors. But yeah, I don't get why the jsk also has a white colorway?

>>10338782
It's >>10338492 and >>10338495 together, they all come in several colors. But yeah, I don't get why the jsk doesn't have a white colorway?

>>10338763
Drop your mail anon, I'll send you mine if you pay the shipping.

>>10338492
>>10338500
>>10338524
I can't decide what to get..

>>10338491
Can’t decide if I like white or navy more.

Holy fuck, I really really like this, lolitas are lucky they can LARP as lots of cool shit

This would be so nice if it wouldn't look like it was made out of the cheapest possible materials.

>>10338788
not that anon, but if they don't get back to you I'd be happy to take it (or anyone's) name tag brooch off their hands

>>10338871
You could do it too

>>10338495
man i am weak for this. hoods in lolita, cute clean cut, pockets, magic theme...

I tried to translate Candy's retirement message from Twitter, source is here: https://twitter.com/AP_Candy_/status/1227588580387590144

私事ですが、20年弱勤続して来たAngelic Prettyを2/15に退職致します。
公休の都合上、本日が最後の出勤でした。
お客様からも度々聞かれたのですが、答えると自分が泣いてしまいそうになったので、きちんとお答えせずで来てしまい、申し訳無かったです。
Because of my private matters, on the 15th of February I will retire from Angelic Pretty, where I have worked almost for 20 years. Today (2/12) was my last day at work because of the public holidays. Customers were asking about stuff from me but when I tried to answer I almost cried and so I couldn't answer, I am sorry.

ブランドコンセプトにある様に、私も幼少からずーっとレースやリボンやピンク色の物が大好きで、高校生の時に原宿へ遊びに来た際に出会ったまだセレクトショップだったプリティはそれらが狭い店内にギュウギュウに詰め込まれている夢の世界で、元はインテリアの勉強や専門学校に進んだにも関わらず
Like in the brand concept, since my childhood like many others I have liked lace, ribbons and pink things and the first time I came to Harajuku as a high school student, Pretty, which at the time was still a select shop, was a jam-packed dream world so despite of that I was studying interiors in vocational school...

>>10338969
プリティへ入社致しました。
以来歳を重ねてもその好きな物や趣味は変わらず寧ろ加速して今に至っております。
沢山のお客様達と出会い、スタッフ達と仕事をし、数多くの様々な経験を得、素晴らしい時間を過ごさせて頂きました。
決して楽しいだけでは無く寧ろ辛い事や悲しい事の方が多かったです。
... I joined Pretty company. Since then even if I grew older, my interests and hobbies didn't accelerate but rather now they have reached their climax. I met a lot of customers, worked with the staff, got a lot of different experiences and had a great time. It wasn't only just fun, rather there was lots of painful and sad things.

それでもこの大好きなロリータの世界だからこそ過ごせて来れました。
今の私を取り囲んでいる環境もプライベートもAngelic Prettyに居たからこそ得られたものだし、この最終結論を出す為に相談した友人達も元々はお客様として、衣裳として、形は様々ですが皆ブランドを介して知り合えた方々でした。
Nevertheless, I was able to spend my time in my favorite world of lolitas. Everything I have is thanks to Angelic Pretty, the friends who I talked to about this situation were old customers, people in different clothes, we all knew each other because of the brand.

>>10338970
全てがAngelic Prettyの上で成り立っていた年月だったからこそ、自身の背景にあるブランド名も20年間の成果も捨てる事は本当に悩んだけれど、ゼネラルマネージャーという役職が8月に失効した事、ある方が仰ってくれた「所属は依存でしか無い」という言葉で決心する事が出来ました。
Because I have worked so long with Angelic Pretty, I was really worried about abandoning brand name and my 20-year achievement but the position of General Manager expired in August. When the person said "Affiliation is only dependent*" I was able to make the decision.
(*I don't know how to translate this)

遣りたい事はまだまだ沢山ありました。
でも少し離れた場所で、自分の夢として実現させて行こうと思います。
烏滸がましい事を言いますが、私はAngelic Prettyを世界中の誰よりも好きだと自負しています。
その気持ちを少し他にも広げて、私が作り上げて来た自分の世界観を更に大きくして行けたらと。
There were still things that I wanted to do. But I think I want to make my dreams come true just a little bit seperated. This is a stupid thing to say but no one in this world is more proud of Angelic Pretty than I am. If only I could expand that feeling and my own view of the world even bigger.

>>10338972
勿論Angelic Prettyは大好きなのでまた何かで関われたらとも思いますし、還元出来る物・事は惜しみ無く提供したいし「可愛い」も発信し続けて行きます。
そこに触れて下さる機会がある方はその時はまた…。
長い長い青春をAngelic Prettyで送れて幸せでした。
皆様本当に有難うございました。
大林
Of course, I love Angelic Pretty and would like to do something with them again: I want to offer things generously and keep sending the "kawaii". I was happy to spend my long long youth with Angelic Pretty. Thank you very much, everyone.
Oobayashi.

>>10338934
This looks like it came from Hot Topic

>>10338787
>>10338491
God I picked a bad time to have no idea how to order from Japanese-only sellers.

>>10338969
Thank you anon.

>>10339009
I may be misinterpreting this, but just in case you didn’t know, the metamorphose website is available in English.

>>10339009
You can order meta anywhere in the world.

>>10339009
Meta was the first brand to ship internationally...

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>>10339058
Bless you all and I'm sorry for my ignorance.

>>10338958
nah, I'm happy watching cool dresses, I'm not a cross dresser u see?
>inb4 ouij
no thx, but military style LARP intermixed with elegant casual style could work

>>10339071
Just get the pants then?

>>10338973
Thank you for the translation!

>>10338563
How fast do you think it'll sell out? I wasn't prepared to get anything right now, but I'd take on some overtime for this. But I also don't wanna get my hopes up if you think it's gonna be full bloodbath.

>>10338787
>100% polyester
:/

Do you gulls have any suggestions for shoes that are good for lolita and long-lasting? I'm sick of shitty pleather. I wear mostly old school if that helps.

>>10339131
There's good and bad quality polyester. I have older AP made from polyester and it's much better than the fabric they use now. This looks fine too.

>>10339139
get a nice pair of basic black mary janes

>>10339131
i'll never understand why people hate poly so much on here. i honestly can't tell much difference between cotton and poly

>>10339148
>i honestly can't tell much difference between cotton and poly
Not even when wearing them, anon?

>>10339157
Nayrt but I’ve been a lolita for a decade and I honestly enjoy wearing poly over cotton

>>10339139
Rainbowy on taobao has really nice leather shoes for cheap, and they're good quality too.
I have 3 pairs of their low heel MJs, best shit ever.

>>10339163
Same. Feels bad about it not being as biodegradable, but I’ll be keeping these dresses for a long time anyway.

>>10339071

Easier than getting the pants:

This cape >>10338500 will go over anything, is way lax on size unless you have kingkong linebacker shoulder width, and you can wear your regular larper clothes underneath while having the fancy logo and nice design

>>10339131

Meta's uniform dresses have been poly off-and-on again for a handful of years now, there's at least one sailor dress way back in 2015 that is 100% poly.

That's why I never really get the people complaining about cotton vs poly. All of my Moitie and the majority of my IW were already poly way back in 2013 and they were still praised for their solid quality.

>>10339270
It’s just people parroting what they’ve heard. In the same vein where cosplayers disdain satin, but it’s not like all satins are party city tier.

>>10339270
a lot of people don't like the grains poly has.

>>10338519
Finally, cute military clothes that aren’t nazi-bait

>>10338491
I really love this but at the same time I'm saving up for a switch.
Could buy both but that might be financially irresponsible. Curse my adult sensibilities!

>>10339139
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>>10339266
hell no, I don't like those

>>10339139
Look for school shoes from UK brands.

>>10339139
>shitty pleather
at another hand these are cheap and easily replacible. although idk if you can recycle them afterwards.

>>10339270
Poly has a bad smell after you wash it some times.

>>10339469
Most of my dresses are poly and I’ve literally never had a problem with it. I heard it comes from the body odor of the person wearing it. If you have a diet with a lot of smelly foods your body smells worse and it clings to clothes

>>10339270
>That's why I never really get the people complaining about cotton vs poly.
We're not complaining about the quality anon. That's not why people dislike it.

>>10339474
I've heard that too, but I keep a very strict diet because of other health problems, so I guess that's not the case.
I wash all my pieces by hand, and most of the 100% poly get a terrible smell after that. No problems with the ones which aren't 100%

>>10339483
Sounds like you just have bad genetics then. Why don’t you put your poly pieces in the machine to wash? Usually they’re safe to just pop in on a regular wash cycle. If you’re nervous put it on delicate. I’m a daily lolita and I’ve never run into an issue machine washing poly.

>>10339484
Just contributing to all the earth's microfibers.

>>10339474
nayrt but still a valid reason to dislike polyester

>>10339491
>dislike a fabric because you have bad BO

Kek

>>10339484
Oh, I'll try it later then and see if it helps. Thanks for the tip.

>>10339493
dislike a fabric because it's not good for you?
or do you have this masochist tendency of liking things that are bad for you?

>>10339487

Considering we all get our clothes from Japan or China I'd be more worried about the carbon footprint than anything.

>>10339518
>worry about carbon which isn't inherently bad
>ignore microfibers which are extremely difficult to remove from the environment, do not degrade, create plastispheres, and are consumed by the food we eat and in turn, us.
I'm not saying it's not also something to be concerned about, but the microfibers issue is definitely a bigger problem with no solution.

Here's a question that I've been thinking about for a while:
>Why did you choose the sub-style you did?
>Was it just because you like the aesthetic? Or are there other factors?

For example, my style is strictly country lolita, not only because I like the way it looks but because it compliments my features the best (freckles, farmer's tan, etc)
I would look terrible in an OTT/Sweet/Hime Coord.

>>10339613
not the most direct answer but eh. i wear pastel sweet AP prints, but i'm starting to get curious about darker palettes of classic and older gothic. a lot of atelier boz and moitie is appealing to me. i have kind of a generic "cute" babyface, but i'm tall and really leggy so i think it might flatter me. i'm starting to appreciate better construction, more structured clean lines, and fabric detailing nowadays.

>>10339665
Ayrt that's interesting. Do you think that it's just a shift in your fashion tastes? Personally I think that classic and gothic lolitas who are tall look amazing in dresses that are a bit longer (like IW), they look so elegant and beautiful.

>>10339613
I’m moving to a streamlined classic aesthetic because it’s by far the most flattering style on me. I also love frumpy lacemonster oldschool but it doesn’t suit me at all and I hate actually leaving the house in it, so I sold most of my pieces. Now I just admire others who wear it from afar while also feeling confident in my own clothes.

>>10339613
I’m into OTT sweet but only really OTT looks because I like that it feels aggressively cute. Like I don’t want to actually look like a sweet dolly, I want to look so over the top that it’s obvious idgaf what people think, ya know? Plus I have a “cute” face (round, freckles, etc) that suits a sweet look. I’d love to get into old school for the same idgaf attitude the sub style has

>>10339678
>OTT sweet
can u post/link me to an OTT sweet coord u really like? curious. And I really like sweet, what you mentioned is a bit too much, but I still like it.

>>10339673
it's possible! i still have a lot of love in my heart for AP and baby but i think as i grow older i sort of want to branch out more. i think also part of it is that i have a lot of ~spooky~ interests and hobbies, esp related to occult shit, so i kind of want to express that more now if that makes sense?

also i'd be lying if i said part of the appeal had nothing to do with how flattering it was on tall girls

>>10339538

They're literally not. There are already health consequences from global warming, so if anything both should be taken into equal consideration.

Plus, if most of my dresses are second hand technically I'm doing a lot more for microfiber than you handwringers anyways by keeping it out of the landfill.

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>>10339700
thank you, those on top look very nice

>>10339697
>They're literally not.
>Plus, if most of my dresses are second hand technically I'm doing a lot more for microfiber than you handwringers anyways by keeping it out of the landfill.

If you don't know anything about it, just say so. It's obvious.

>>10339706

Don't you have some virtue signaling influencer to follow right now instead of spouting this nonsense?

Could this be turned into a military lolita thread, bls do

>>10339710
Imagine having such a hard time caring about things that you call other people "virtue signalers" when they care about things.

The most of Chinese lolitas are so cringy, yikes!

>>10339780
Cringy how? Genuine question, I know nothing about Chinese lolitas.

>>10339780
Disagree. Most Chinese lolitas look better than American lolitas for sure.

>>10339700
where is the alice dress in the third one from?

Bonus cut ?

>>10339807
It’s this one:

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32853234521.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail

>>10339806
Looking good and being cringy are two completely different things. You can look gorgeous and still be an insufferable person.

>>10339806
their taste is fucking whack tho. and they shoop themselves into creepy bjd abominations.

>>10338488
>within 4 minutes the headdress is completely sold out, only navy colorway of the JSK left
Is this normal?

>>10339700
Seems like you’re into deco Lolita which isn’t the same as OTT sweet

That’s what I meant talking about poor texture of poly. The print is clearly fresh and vibrant, but weird texture doesn’t add up any depth to color, it looks pretty bleak.

>>10338491
So, what did y’all get.

>>10339933
Snagged a grey JSK. On the fence about the jacket and cape because of price.

>>10339933
I had a white OP in my cart, but it sold out when I went to pay so I nabbed a navy one instead.

>>10339933
Got the white OP but no cap since it was first to sold out.
>>10339938
Honestly all of the colorways look great, almost got a gray one instead.

>>10339933
White, navy and grey OP + Headdress because man I just really love nurse- and military themes.

>>10339933
Gray OP, was aiming for green but I was surprised it sold so quickly. I thought for sure the first to sell out would be white, followed by navy then gray then green. Turned out navy was the first to go, then green, white, and gray being last. JSK seemed to go faster than the OP, and I was really surprised with how fast the headdress went. Am now trying to think of what to do for myself, whether it be sew a lookalike or wait for restock or look for other brands.

>>10339928

....That's... not what you use chiffon for, though. Chiffon is supposed to look light and airy, and move with you as you move. It's supposed to look like, how do I describe it. As if fairies of air breathed an illusion on your dress and covered with imaginary strawberries of light.

That's why chiffon sleeves are sometimes left unlined, to reinforce the illusion of lightness. The point of using chiffon is the airyness, not the technicolour brightness of whip cupcake ver 2.

lmao at the person selling honey cake necklace for $200...

>>10339918
For something as guaranteed to be popular as this series, yes.

>>10339918
Oh shit it came out already? Oh well, wasn’t that into it anyways.

>>10339940
True. I might get the white one if it ever shows up secondhand, but I’m satisfied with the navy one for now!

>>10338488
Meta will probably restock this like they did with Grimoire, they’re good about re-releasing stuff that sells out instantly.

>>10339933
Nothing, I wasn't diligent at being on time since I thought polyester meme and huge size would make this undesirable. I am not sure if I'll get it on restock, it's too big for me but the belt and corset tie might make it work

>>10339989
I'm under the measurements too but there is plenty of corset lacing in the back, so I'm sure it will be fine.

>>10339971
I like it, but it's not something I'd get to wear very often

>>10339989
Outside of cgl and rc no one care about it being poly. Ap fans get upset over anything but it’s a standard fabric for brands.

Also meta loves being inclusive so being bigger meant more ppl getting it. The lacing would have been fine for you, that’s the point of it.

>>10339933
Nothing bc I'm broke. Gonna live through you all when you get it. Hoping I get gifted a million dollars the day before meta restocks.

>>10339971
That’s what I’m telling myself, too...

>>10340008
Same.

>>10339954
Is Strawberry Doll made of chiffon? I used to think it's some of their go-to poly fabrics like viyella or something

>>10339933
I added the JSK and jacket in navy to my order because I started to get a lot of ideas, rip my wallet. If they really restock, I hope they'll also consider the navy capes..

>>10339275
Or could it be that people prefer the feel of cotton over polyester?

>>10339782
They have terrible shoop and behave like uwu kawaii silly little girl

>>10339999
My problem with big dresses is they bunch up under my chest regardless of how tight I tie the corset lacing. I can't get them to look smooth and fitted like dresses with a smaller size range

>>10339818
That cutsew op looks nice but I’m not really liking any of the colors

>>10339926
I’m not taking advice from anyone who calls it “loli” thx
and this is not decora lolita, you ignoramus, it’s textbook OTT sweet

>>10340032
This. When it's 15cm bigger than your measurements, you end up giving up on the brand.

>soapbox changed all the titles of her 160 items to "Valentine’s/Singles Awareness Day"
Honest question, are they a mod too? Or do they just have way too much time to waste?

>>10340049
Nayrt, but what we call OTT in the west was known as decora lolita in Japan back in the early 2010s

>>10340075
I wish LM would just ban them

>>10340075
They started doing this a week ago, so they just are annoying.

>>10340075
what’s the point of doing this? to attract more attention to listings? because honestly it just makes me skip looking at them entirely

>>10339915

Everyone shoops, what is your point

>>10339954

Forget it, the natural fiber only lolitas are just going to shut you down anyways.

Shitty chiffon is terrible and chiffon prints just aren't the same, but dresses like this are beautiful.

>>10340075
I don’t mind that she does this because it makes them easy to ignore.

>>10340252
I mean I agree with >>10339928 that the print looks bad and I also agree that the dress you posted is gorgeous. AP is just worse overall now- even their newer cotton pieces are poor quality.

Head up, the obsessive scammer is at it again with her sockpuppets.
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/angelic-pretty-fancy-melody-jsk-and-bow-set-1704fc9a-ff98-4aa7-a3f3-c7400108e0d7

>>10340557
Deets?

>>10339818
am I the only one who sees this print as a copycat of the Fresh Cherry? Just add more daisies and voila

>>10340580

You're kinda late. AP has been riffing off Drained Cherry since 2013. That's why every year the cherry dresses are chiffon and summery.

The print just gets more cluttered as they try to add more things so that people have a reason to buy this year's cherry print instead of reusing last year's cherry print.

>>10340032
I have AaTP's Petit Chaperon Rouge with the corset lacing and even if i tie it at max the bodice is obviously huge on me. Idk why there is even shirring at all on it when it runs so large.

>>10339613
I just had lots of pastels in my wardrobe already when I started, I actually wanted to do classic when I was still just getting my feet wet with the fashion. Then I got some sweet skirts and they fit my wardrobe pretty well and my styling meshes nicely with sweet. Now I like it the most, but I'm still picky about prints which is fine with me cause I'd rather have a wardrobe where I love every single piece.

>>10340580
That's just AP doing their annual berry print, I can hardly keep them apart at this point

>>10339613
I wear a bit of everything, so I wouldn't say I chose a specific substyle exactly, but most of my closet is kind of a mix of country/classic/sweet. Lots of nature prints and muted gingham, not a lot of pastel. It's just what I like the most.
I think I choose what I don't wear based on it not suiting me, more than I choose what I wear based on it suiting me. Like I don't wear super kawaii-leaning stuff because I don't think it suits me, even though I love looking at it. I think gothic would suit me really well (I look good in black), but I don't have much gothic yet because I wanted to focus on my favourite aesthetic first.

>>10340049
But I didn’t call it loli, my autocorrect capitalized “Lolita” and I was too lazy to change it. And yeah, those top photos would count as decololita, due to the abundance of hair accessories. Once upon a time there used to be a distinction between the two. OTT Sweet would usually be a full coord with a wig and a few accessories. Deco would feature unnaturally colored wigs and more accessories. Over time the two terms got conflated.

Either way, the bottom two photos aren’t deco or OTT sweet so I don’t get why you included them as an example of OTT you dislike.

>>10339483
Detargant can make a "film" on clothing that traps smell. Only use washing powder.

Glitter tale made a replica of AP soap bubbles

>>10339928
Moitie prints on poly have never looked that bad

>>10340578
Just look at the first entry of LMs blacklist page. It's a butthurt scammer who, everytime they get called out for their stolen images, makes several sockpuppet accounts to buy items of the people who called them out and then to spam negative feedback on their page.

>>10340604
Just taobao brands being taobao brands

>>10339613
I keep buying sweet items because the cute animal prints make me emotionally happy, even though logically my favorite aesthetic is oldschool solids with contrast lace.

>>10340626
glittertale is a vietnam brand and not on taobao, so no

>>10340604
who cares about design replicas, especially of dresses that were hideous to begin with

>>10340604
Not surprising. In the past, Glitter Tale would constantly message people making WTB posts on Facebook and tell them that they could make something similar

>>10340658
Ok replica fag anon

>>10340658
soap bubbles is cute tho.

>>10340747
i don't have to buy replicas myself to not care about them thx. now go scream about how heart shaped purses are totes replicas and never existed before lolita

>>10339613
When I was a total newb, I bought whatever was cheap, so outdated sweet. Then I bought whatever I thought was cute and moved into sweet/classic, but I didn't feel confident in it.
Now I am in the process of transitioning my wardrobe, but I really generally wear dark classic or old school. I figured out that I like to wear darker colors and look best in A-lines.

>>10339806
Only the ones that end up on the western internet. Walk around Shanghai and you'll see so many itas.

>>10340755
The definition of what is ita varies greatly between the west and Asia though. A lot of Japanese lolitas would be considered ita by western standards too.

Sorry if I’m posting on the word thread, but did the Nebraska Lolita FB group get deleted? I remember it being around but a bunch of members were posted to ita threads.

>>10340604
Somehow it's so much worse. Those off proportions make it look like a clown costume

>>10340075
I hope it hurts her to know that I, and plenty other people have her blocked so fucking hard through LM's blocker add on.

>>10339933
I was going to get the grey jsk but by the morning when i woke up it was sold out. I put in an inquiry so hopefully they will restock.

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>>10340789
I'm a noob, who is soapbox? I have seen the LM postings in question and was wondering what that was all about.

>>10340886
a known LM scalper. I highly recommend never buying from her, gemgem87, cherry_sp, twinklejewelry (or something like that I don't remember), or kokoro.

>>10340887
Thank you for the advice! I've never bought from LM before, do these people jack up the price more than the item is worth?

So what are the odds Misako Aoki contracts the coronavirus?

>>10340887
kokoro is the worst, she reported my lm account when I first started mine, wtf is wrong with her

>>10340889
Cherry doesn't jack it up a ton but definitely compare her prices to other sellers and Wunderwelt where she got a lot of her items. They are never a good deal.

Rainies used to have okay prices but has gotten overpriced as the Japanese secondhand prices went up.

Gemgem doesn't have bad prices but it's because she scalps from mercari, and we're starting to see the effects of Westerners buying there.

I don't know the others but the scalper I'm most scared of is the Chinese one with tons of Kumyas, I suspect based on her history that some or all may be replicas

>>10340896
She blocked me for asking a simple question about trading a dress when she was the one who suggested trading in the first place. Not sure what her deal is either.

>>10340893
That depends, is she going down on General Tao?

>>10340209
That and the PARAGRAPH they use instead of just listing the size and condition are prime examples of bad online selling.

>they’re like those shitty chinese sellers you see on Amazon

>>10340779
>clown lolita 2020

>New account in Hong Kong
>No proof photos and listings spam
I’m getting tired of these Chinese scalpers.

>>10339700
Top right is a walking train wreck kek.

Lolita and Colitas is also a shitty Taobao brand with piss poor quality and customer service

How do you think if we had this feature for upvoting/downvoting LM listings for how fair price is, would it help to defeat scalpers?

>>10340960
Too many poorfags and vendetta-chans to be a good system. Very easy to abuse compared to having both people open for feedback after a sale

>>10339926
>>10340049
Here's Misako just today calling that style deco lolita https://twitter.com/aokimisako/status/1228935499437314048

>>10341013
Not to point out the obvious but Japanese and English are different languages. Translation is rarely direct.

secret

>>10341013
it literally says in katakana "deco loli"

>>10341016
English is not my first language. Japanese isn't either, but the clothing style I wear is from Japan so I will use the Japanese terms and not the American way of calling it.

>>10340960
Nah, people would get salty about market prices that they can't afford

>>10341036
Yes that’s what I said.

>>10340896
How the hell is Kokoro's account not banned? She has literally over a dozen negatives, if someone like that isn't bannable, then who is?

>>10340906
Personally I find Rainies' prices to be reasonable, lists some decent items and she doesn't spam nearly as much as the other resellers, so I don't mind buying from her.

Cherry's prices are fine but the spam is annoying and I just don't understand... what is the point in scalping Bodyline...

The kumya scalper and etc are just whatever, wastes of listing space.

>>10341288
Kokoro's on my bad list as well after she backed out of a sale I rightfully won, claiming she couldn't send it to me when she didn't mention any trouble when I asked a question before bidding. With how unprofessional she handled it I was highly inclined to leave her bad feedback but I didn't. Maybe sort of regret that now, I don't know how much bad feedback a seller needs to get before they're banned but it can't be that much more. I didn't give her feedback a proper look before bidding and even with so many positives I think I wouldn't have shown interest in her listing at all if I noticed she had so many negatives

>>10341034
Lol

>>10341300
Depends on what question you asked before bidding. Did you ask for measurements or other details, or specifically if she would ship to you or what it'd cost to ship to you?

>>10341013
Misako isn’t the god of Lolita. Remember “soft” Lolita and neo lolita? Either way, she is wearing a lot of head accessories, more than the girls in the bottom two photos of >>10339700, she’s more deco Lolita than them.

Newbie question maybe but why do people seem to hate Katiebabydoll so much? Is there old drama there or something?

>>10341329
I was just proving that deco lolita isn’t something that was only used in 2010. Misako’s Traditional lolita term is in use frequently these days though that’s probably also from someone else, Soft lolita is used by Chinese and Neo lolita was RinRin’s thing.

>>10341336
I can't believe there's people so new that they don't know about her 2 year long drama. There's a lolcow thread on her that extends back to her original drama days. Check that out

>>10341340
I thought soft lolita was like soft sister so kind of a rude term that implies they're cheap.

>>10341328
Specifically what shipping would cost to my country. I bid days after she answered then waited 3 more days after the auction ended to finally get a message from her stating she can't ship it to me. She's so sorry but says that's why she needs international buyers to message her first. When I answered I did in fact do that she basically threw a self pity fest on me along with claiming she never got a message from me which is bull as I can literally still see it in my messages along with her reply to it. She left me on unread at some point and that combined with the playing dumb and self-pitying makes me glare at all her listings from now on. In the end I'm glad the sale didn't go through cause I've since spent the money on things I like/want more but if she got booted off LM I'd be a happy petty person

>>10339148
Poly doesn't breathe like natural fibres, and therefore is horrible to wear when it's hot and humid. I've personally found that the fibres I wear makes a huge difference in the summer.

Same person here, thanks for the direction to the lolcow thread. Are there any other major/popular still-active lolitas with major drama? Where is the best place to find recent Lolita history? I looked at btb but it’s dead beyond belief lmao so where do people even bitch nowadays

>>10341400
how pathetic...who cares?

Me obvs, thanks for your disdain..! I just don’t wanna sound ignorant and stupid when joining a community with considerable history lol sorry that you already know absolutely everything, I unfortunately do not

>>10339613
I’m on the border between sweet and classic, and also take huge inspiration from gyaru when I’m feeling particularly tacky. At first, I wanted to be a cake print sweet lolita, but figured out pretty fast that the cuts don’t flatter me. When I got my Pas de Deux in the Blue Moon JSK, it was all over, and I’ve fallen for a more elegant style.

As far as tacky (think Jewel Butterfly and Jewel Leopard) goes, I am just a huge sucker for gyaru. I’m not loud in public, but I like my clothes to be! I’ve been told I’m intimidating, so excessive tackiness on me screams “look all you want, but you’ll be sorry if you touch.” It really is like a suit of armor!

>>10340759
yep, it's gone.

>>10341400
Are you in highschool? Gtfo drama-monger.

>>10341403
Did you know you can reply to posts by clicking on the post number? Did you know that you also should avoid having a distinct typing style because it makes you look like an attention whoring underage newfag? Lurkmoar before posting and take this shit to the stupid questions thread. That said, there is a drama ban on cgl and discussion of drama, old or new, can get a thread nuked.
>I just don’t wanna sound ignorant and stupid when joining a community with considerable history
You already do. This is 4chan. Everyone is an asshole here and that anon wasn't even being hostile, you're just obnoxious as shit.

Also this is probably someone larping to stir up shit but I'm replying anyway in case this really is a retard. 5/10 bait, unfortunately believable enough for me to fall for it.

>>10341300
Oh my god kokoro did this exact same thing to me saying that the item was actually too damaged for her to sell and then she re-listed it 6 months later. What is this girls problem?

>>10341519
I would comment and buy it again just to spite her

>>10341412
I genuinely think pas de deux in the blue moon is one of the most underrated releases ever though... it sells for next to nothing on LM and yet it hangs so perfectly between sweet and classic (I bet you could even style the black CW in a gothic style if you want all angelina jolie black swan on it)

>>10341519
wow that is definitely worth bad feedback! In my case she suddenly claimed that she couldn't risk it cause the highest insurance she could get on the package wouldn't cover the full cost. Which I pointed out is something she could've looked up and told me before, when I specifically asked about shipping to my country. It'd have saved me the long wait between bidding, winning and then 3 more days of waiting for her to send me a message only to get that! The pity party and then outright ignoring me after is such a childish move, she also re-listed it later and I had to hold myself back from commenting something like 'hey you might want to let international buyers know that there's a chance you might not ship to them even if they win the auction, to save them the trouble :)'

Did she at least list the damages in the re-listing? Half of her negative feedback is people stating undisclosed damages when she listed things as nwt

and what did she price it as now? much cheaper than what you were going to pay or not?

A few name of guardian colorways got restocked!

>>10341847
ew

>>10341847
Those are all men

>>10341847
Looks like some fug vkei band who wears 100 yen costumes + does fanservice to appeal to the 20 little girls who attend their concerts.

>>10341635
Oh, absolutely!! It’s a stunning print, especially in black, and it’s by far the most versatile JSK in my wardrobe!

>>10341866
no shit

>>10341884
Ooh which cut do you have? I have Odile in pink and god I think it’s so beautiful, I’d love to see if you can show me any COF/insta posts where the black cw has been styled well, I almost never see it!

>>10341882
It is a vk band but their stage costumes are from wunderwelt

>>10341847
Kek @ putting the manliest looking guy in the pink curly wig

>>10341659
There were disclosed damages in the original post that I won which I was fine with. Then she said there were MORE damages that were just too bad for her to feel okay selling. Didn’t even offer me a discount or ask if I still wanted it, just refunded me. When she relisted it she used the EXACT same description as the original listing didn’t mention any new damages and she listed it for the same price.
I actually messaged her and asked her what’s up and she said that she cleaned it..... like could she not have done that from the start?
I honestly think she just wanted to keep it a little while longer which I am not opposed to. It’s the shadiness and the lying that left a bad taste in my mouth.

>>10342024
God I'm inclined to think maybe she was hoping to find a buyer with less experience or such to avoid bad feedback. There's no reason for her not to message you about cleaning it/asking if you still want it at any time. Instead she chose to be shady. Wish we could give negative feedback simply stating how childish and unprofessional she handled the botched sales but personally I fear she'd just throw a pity party to the mods like she did with me and get it altered or redacted. Its just too much of a hassle for me but I hate hearing the shit she pulls with other people, wish she'd get banned already for acting like that

>>10339148
It doesn't breathe, so if you sweat in it during hot weather it feels and smells like shit.

>>10342042
Forgot to add before this turns into another hygiene debate like last time, body odor and amount of sweating is largely genetic. Scientists have isolated genes that directly turn sweat odor "on" or "off" (interestingly they're also tied to ear wax consistency and they occur in different frequencies according to ethnic background.)

>>10342044
weird comment about race that seems kinda unnecessary but okay. whether you sweat a little or a lot, poly doesn’t breathe. so sure you might not smell as bad as sweatychan over there but it’s still not good for your body, it’s a very valid reason to dislike poly

>>10342129
It’s true though? That’s why there was basically no real deodorant in Japan or Korea until recent years. Even then, there still isn’t that many that are actual proper deodorants. Asian people don’t tend to smell when the sweat. I’m not exactly sure, but I think it’s because of a gene they lack or a mutation.

Sage for being slightly ot

>>10342129
Depends on the poly. AP's poly blouses are the one's sweaty people should stay away from. I don't sweat much, and even they are less comfortable to wear in the summer. IW and Baby's poly blouses are much better. The shinier the poly, the more sweaty you'll get in it.

>>10342129
I've had multiple Chinese people tell me they had never even seen deodorant until they came to the US. It seems to be true.

>>10339131
Chambray is really nice.

>>10342134
I live in Japan and really wish deodorant would catch on, walking around stores you regularly catch whiffs of rank BO that I've never experienced in Europe or the USA

>>10342215
It is true, just like the same demographics tend to be lactose intolerant and tend to have issues processing alcohol. That person doesn't produce enough of the enzymes they need to break alcohol (or milk, which is different enzymes respectively) down into sugars, which is 100% genetic.

>>10342215
I grew up in China and boys back in middle school (10 years ago) used a ton of deodorant, the smell traumatized me lol. I guess it really depends on which part of China.

>>10342129
>weird comment about race that seems kinda unnecessary but okay.
Lol that's just you reading into it way too much. There was a recent article about it which is why it was on my mind, it's kind of interesting and explains cultural differences.

>>10342238
Nice cherry picking
You do know lactose and alcohol intolerance isn't just found among asians, right?

>>10342251
Obviously you already know, but some of China is just super westernized compared to the rest of the country. The handful of big cities along the east coast especially.

I pre-ordered the purple devil cat skirt from aatp and just got this email... I guess I will switch to black. Does this mean the regular release will not have purple skirts?

>>10342280
yikes, has baby gone the way of ap and started using third world factories?

>>10342280
could you post the picture?

>>10342368
>>10342280
Sure thing, here's 1/3
(I decided to switch to the black colorway)

>>10342381
2/3, this time not a screenshot lmao

>>10342382
and 3/3

>>10342381
2/3

>>10342381
Huh. I wonder if this is only a problem with the skirts or if the purple colorway is compromised completely.

>>10342386
this is the first time I have ever pre-ordered anything, rip. It's just such an odd mistake!

>>10342381
>>10342385
Hot take: it looks good and now it can be coordinated with navy.

>>10342418
>purple x navy

>>10342253
>X genetic trait is like W and Z genetic traits
Cherry picking isn't the phrase you're looking for.

Getting upset about the useless facts some people learned in anthropology/ randomly on the internet is a personal choice, I can't fathom why you'd make that choice.

>>10342419
>Guilty Meltin' Sweets

>>10342418
Assuming it's that "iris" shade of purple that AatP likes, it's awesome with navy

Meta really be coming for my wallet.

>>10342134
Japan has a million deodorant products - wipes, sprays, roll on, cream, powder, etc. What they DON’T have is antiperspirants
Believe me salarymen get rank. Japanese do sweat and do smell

>>10342493
lol this, I used to get all my undershirts and underarm guards from Japanese sites because I couldn’t find any sold locally. If Japanese people don’t sweat then why did underwear shops have entire sections of products to protect your clothing from sweat?

>>10342280
>>10342381
>>10342383
I don´t think this looks too bad but they could at least give a discount for it

Bb & B released an Alice in Wonderland series. Sort of surprised they didn’t do anything with the white hare.

>>10342617

>>10342617
>>10342619

>>10342621
>>10342617
>>10342619

>>10342623
This looks vaguely like a vagina

>>10342625
Please go to a doctor

>>10342626
NAYRT, but I thought the same at the first glance

>>10342626
Not MY vagina. A vagina.

Lol at this girl trying to sell her homemade shit

>>10342837
excuse me? did she fucking make a bootleg of the honey cake bear?

>>10342625
yep, I see it too

>>10342846
a bear-shaped honey bottle has been around far longer than the honey cake print.

>>10342872
She literally said she cast her bear ring in the description which makes it a bootleg, but nice try replica chan

>>10342877
Not that anon, but I didn't see any description stating as such, so it's possible anon didn't either? Regardless, a bear honey bottle isn't anything new.

>>10342626
Anon did say VAGUELY.

Does anyone have a pair of Miho Matsuda 4 Strap Shoes? How do they fit? I'm a 23.5, wondering if I should size up just in-case.

>>10342881
Well, regardless, they’re hideous.

>start getting into lolita, go on lacemarket and brand websites on my laptop
>start getting nothing but ads for lolita clothes on every device I own
>my boyfriend gets lolita ads on his phone even though he's never looked it up before
Feels creepy

>>10343025
They're watching

>>10343025
Just something called cookie

>>10342837
I can’t imagine being so unimaginative in putting together a coord that you have to make wrist cuffs with the honey bear on them

>>10343025
Ok boomer

>>10342881
a bear honey bottle isn't new, but one with those colors is clearly a bootleg regardless.

>>10343070
People are actually buying this shit. I can’t wait to see them all in the ita threads because they completely lack creativity and coording skills.

>>10343070
I think it'll be cute if only it was better executed.

>>10343135
Even if it was you’d have a pair of wrist cuffs that were meant just for one dress and in one coord color only

>>10343135
Making wrist cuffs yourself is pretty lame. There are so many brand and indie options that you can wear with more than one dress.

>>10343145

nayrt. I'm into sets and have done it a lot (my biggest regret is actually not picking up the one and only matching wrist cuffs for my first dress, AP never reused that lace again and now it's just a hole in my lolita heart).

Even AP makes a lot of wristcuffs specific to one release, for eg this one has crowns and chocolate squares, at that time it would only be Chess Chocolate that has both themes. It's just that sometimes a theme gets popular enough and AP gets around to releasing something else with similar theme, and then you can reuse the wrist cuffs for that. It's really no different from picking up a whole jewellery set that only goes with one dress.

(If you want wristcuffs that go with different things, AP also releases logo wristcuffs that aren't tied to a specific release)

>>10342837 is just crap, though. The faceless creepy bears are bad enough, the wristcuffs themselves aren't even lace and just some regretsy-tier horrible kind of shitty.

>>10343149
This isn’t really true though. The Fancy Noel and Dream Bear jewelry sold out in minutes, and they’re both pretty “specific” sets. Not everyone who bought them also bought the matching dresses so it stands to reason lolitas coorded them in some cases with other dresses even though it wasn’t a perfect match. The homemade cuffs on the other hand are so ugly they’d never be able to go with anything else. They don’t even go with Honey Cake.

I also gotta know what lace you mean.

>>10343150

I can't tell if we're agreeing

1. Those wristcuffs are fug. I don't know who would buy them.

2. So people do buy specific sets of jewellery/wristcuffs that only go with one release, even you said it -- even if they match it with another dress, they still bought an item that only matches one release.

The lace is Happy Garden. It was easier to find the dress and the accessories but I never found the wrist cuffs.

>>10343154
I think we’re agreeing.

The wrist cuffs are abominable, anyone with a single working eyeball can see that.

I said that the accessories can be coorded with different dresses, but you’re right in that they’re designed for one release only, I can’t argue with that, even if lolitas with decent coording skills make them work for more than that.

The lace on Happy Garden is adorable, I wish AP would use it again. I also wish it wasn’t so hard to hunt down older accessories.

>>10343160

If you're willing to include homemade and offbrand there's probably some teddy bear or pancake fabric/dress out there that would coord fine with some yellow bears and red fabric, maybe.

Yes, I learned my lesson the hard way, the accessories are always the hardest to hunt down. I saw a necklace from my holy grail Midsummer Nights Dream series several years ago but didn't buy it, being a noob at that time. That turned out to be the one and only time I ever saw MND accessories for sale, ever, aatp didn't re-release them along with the dress. Ouch.

>>10343145
I don't mean the color she chose, hers look ugly sure, but if it's a nice lace in cream with a honey bear charm in clay I think it would be nice.
>>10343147
Some people are into crafting, they don't have matching wristcuffs for Honey Cake so why not make your own?
I'm planning to make some accessories for mine. It's fun to craft.

>>10343203
Speaking of that, whatever happened to that Honey Cake socks anon? She had really cute designs that I would have gotten. Bring ass bear back yo

>>10343078
Not to mention that the items are fugly af... making me think the people buying them are either, 1, retards who missed that they were handmade.. or 2, itas and newbs jumping on the honey cake train since the rerelease... no one in their right mind would think the apron or wristcuffs look good...

>>10342837
Does that bear count as a replica ?

>>10343233
If she used her original ring as a mould, then yes.

>>10343147
>Making wrist cuffs yourself is pretty lame
Why? It's way cooler when lolitas can make their own stuff instead of having to buy everything. This is why people say the original spirit of lolita is dying.

I honestly think that little sisters shouldn't comment on BSoLF.
Whenever i see a comment tagged LS i know it would be reddit-tier. They adore every fucking coord,even the most ita ones.
Even the definition of ls says they are little experienced or have no experience. Why someone who doesn't know much yet can give advice to others?

>>10343205
Yeah, I rarely buy indie/offbrand but I’d shell out for ass bear.

>>10343247
I don’t speak for everyone but my problem is that 99.9% of homemade lolita looks like crap. The idea of making accessories and even dresses is cool but the execution is always terrible. Poor construction, weird color/pattern choices, and usually frankly just lacking both taste and skill.

>>10343147
ok consoomer

>>10343278
Not just that but good homemade gets quietly worn and looks nice (usually because people who are actually good keep trying to get better and focus more on what they can improve in any given project), whereas the people who make shitty homemade stuff make a big point of the fact that they made it.

>>10343261
The Lolita Fashion Mentoring group might be more to your liking

>>10343278
>>10343289
Yeah, the fact that the most tasteless/unskilled people also tend to be the ones who are the most vocal about their handmade must be making you biased because there are some people out there whose handmade lolita is nearly indistinguishable from brand.

>>10342502
what are they called in japanese? might cop some

>>10339933
I got grey jsk and capelet.
I already have accessories to go with it.
Its arriving probably tomorrow or friday

>>10340846
Meta has the best costumer service!!!!! I got it!! this is the second time this happened! thank you meta!

This is hilarious. Its an insta page teaching "how to be a princess" and they have a really normie understanding of lolita

>>10343937

>>10343938
Sorry if you are over 20 you are too old for sweet lolita

>>10343937
>>10343938
>>10343940
This reads like a fetish poster

>>10343940

>>10343943
Nope, they just stupid ladyhood larper.

What are some Easter meet ideas that aren't just a high tea? I can't really have an egg hunt because I live in an apartment either. I want something aesthetic but I feel like my comm is over paying for tiny food reheated earlier that day from frozen packaging.

>>10343946
They like have tons of post about wearing skirts everywhere, doing curtsey and not wearing vibrant colours if you are older than 12

>>10343949
Can you post the username? If not here then on the farm. This shit is wild

>>10343956
Lady_of_royal_manners

Im too stupid and dont know how to write on the farm lol

>>10343261
I have a friend who has been in lolita longer than me and knows a ton about it and for some reason tags herself as little sister because she’s humble. Not every little sister post is an ita (just most of them)

>>10343943
It's a kin blog

>>10343983
>Kin poster

Ah, so that’s why it reads like I’m having a stroke.

>>10343947
Picnic at a cute park/garden, if you are hosting you could bring cute seed packets for each person who rsvps.

>>10343958
It’s not hard which means you actually don’t know how to find it.

>>10343965
if you’re going to selfpost be less obvious about it

>>10343940
I fucking hate this, like to really enjoy this fashion you need to have a job and free time

20 year olds barely have enough time to enjoy shit before they leave for college

>>10343947
Why not make chocolate eggs/colored eggs and watch some historical dramas?

>>10344006
Yes, dyeing Easter eggs wearing lolita doesn’t sound like a bad idea at all.

>>10344033
I‘d actually suggest watercolor brush pens and watercolor paints. Paint the egg like a canvas instead of dying the whole thing. That should be relatively safe unless you are a total fucking retard.

>>10343998
What are you talking about? I tag myself as MS when I’m giving advice, I’m just saying my friend gives advice all the time as a LS but she’s been in the fashion 5 years and has a huge collection. Neither me nor her post asking questions, that’s for literal newbies. My comment was more to say that the LS/MS line is hard to define

>>10343991
I envy anyone who can have a lolita picnic in a park around Easter without being swarmed by little kids, and this is coming from someone who loves kids. Last year we were at a restaurant and people still thought we were there as paid entertainers. The large number of bonnets didn’t help.

>>10343938
>a princess runs away from excess
bitch in what world
you can’t just ignore the entirety of history to suit your weird role play needs

>>10344052
you and your friend are retarded

New thread >>10344205