/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Redpill me on Calimacil

>>10331789
high end larp weapons that are the most durable and safest ones out there that are actually still usable without it being just a feather stick.
The niggers at the company cannot into costumer service though and the shipment costs to Europe skyrocketed.

There are fancier weapons out there, also ones that feel better/can be used better, etc. But if I go to a school event or a con where hundreds of kids will do retarded flailings that they enjoy, with zero training beforehand then I will bring calimacil weapons for safety sake and because I know that the little gremlins can't destroy them if I don't leave them unattended for more than half a minute.

tl;dr: good for loaner weapons or when you have to outfit random guys. For personal weapons it's not bad but great isn't like that either.

>>10331796
So what would you get that's better? I like the fact that they seem low maintenance, and very durable.

>>10331853
Wyvern replica series hands down. That's the best larp swords I've personally tried so far.
They aren't that good as calimacil durability-wise, but looks way better, handles WAAAAAY better (honestly, only some custom made stuff gets close to this, or hand crafted stuff)
They are also made from injected foam and the core is more rigid than calimacil so less bouncy-bouncy mindfuck is going on. Crossguards also more rigid, though that varies from weapon to weapon.
The only downside is that for double edged blades their tip can be easily damaged, so I'm still not a fan of those though it getting better and better in the last years. Their single edged weapons are the best in my opinion.

>>10331853
Wyvern: 1 to 1.5 handed swords, everything else they make is shit.
Silberwald: Stopped producing, but you can still find some stuff from them. Greatswords and polearms.
Dunkelart: Polearms and wacky custom stuff
Freyhand: cheap shit and pavises
Rustzeug: indestructible maces that make retarded con-Germans take their hits.

For custom work you can take some online artists like The Grumpy Dwarf Workshop or many of the others.

>>10331922
for polearms my personal choice is goldhammer, though the rest of their stuff is also really good and very durable compared to other latex weapons. Also REALLY good balance and feel on all of their stuff

>>10331775
I want my mom to make me a Scythian hat, for the hell of it, I'm probably the biggest Scythiaboo on all 4chins, and I love the aesthethics of the hat. Any tips on good models to reproduce, techniques, etc? So far I haven't seen any Scythian hat that I like pretty much anywhere.

>>10331924
Never held a Goldhammer polearm, love their club and katzbalger lines though.
Are they any good on stab-safe weapons?

>>10331962
I had a goldhammer knife and I stabbed a shitton of people with it. Also stabbed a fair amount of people with the halberd. No complaints so far as long as you do it with control and not like an orangutan-sewing machine crossbreed

Comfy 1am bump

I just want to play at another titties-out LARP, is that really so much to ask?

>>10336845
>is that really so much to ask?
So long as you market it as a titties-out larp, yes. The people who'd show up to such an event and the people you'd like to see there are probably mutually exclusive groups.

Having said that, tell me more, I'm intrigued.

>>10336845
>titties-out LARP
What the fuck is that and where can I go to one

>>10331775
Hello darlings,

I want a set of gold-looking armour for a costume. However, I'm a massive poorfag and can't really afford custom pieces. Is there a way to paint store-bought metal armour gold that doesn't look like shit? Alternatively, is there some place that sells armour in the right colour?

>>10338385
yes and yes but first of all what is your budget and what kind of armour you have in mind?

>>10338684
>what is your budget?
I'd rather not drop more than about €300,- on the first set.

>what kind of armour you have in mind?
Purely aesthetic. Greaves, gauntlets, pauldrons or a shoulderpiece of some sort, and a helmet or headpiece. Everything else can come later. Maybe the greaves can come later, too.

I don't care whether it's leather, metal, or a combination thereof, so long as the colour is right.

I'd rather not make any of it myself, since I've got plenty of other stuff to make for the rest of the costume.

>>10338732
that's kind of tight budget, but your best bet is either get the shittiest and cheapest armour from mytholon and put some gold like paint on it, or get some kind of chainmail from brass links.

Obviously there is the option of handmade stuff from EVA foam and the like, but you said making it yourself out of the question.
Leather I doesn't recommend, it looks like shit most of the time if you want to paint it gold (or at least takes a lot of effort and quality stuff to make it right)


Alternatively you can look for second hand larp armour buy it and paint it. There are a lot of good metal paints with gold color so that would be easy.
Now there is ANOTHER way to make it gold-like which is put a thin layer of copper on the metal, which can be done with an angle grinder and a copper brush, but again, it can be tricky, and ultimately not easier or cheaper than painting

>>10338741
>either get the shittiest and cheapest armour from Mytholon and put some gold like paint on it
That's part of the reason why I want a set of disconnected pieces: much easier to make that look decent with store-bought pieces than a whole set.

>or get some kind of chainmail from brass links
Brass is actually a pretty good idea, thanks. It seems that the assortment of ready-made brass pieces is pretty slim, though.

>Now there is ANOTHER way to make it gold-like which is put a thin layer of copper on the metal, which can be done with an angle grinder and a copper brush
Can you tell me more? A quick google search doesn't show me anything like that.

>>10338751
>Brass is actually a pretty good idea, thanks. It seems that the assortment of ready-made brass pieces is pretty slim, though.
try this site, though it's not that cheap
https://www.allbeststuff.com/Chain-Mail-Armour&filter=15

>Can you tell me more? A quick google search doesn't show me anything like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1o5PNHLO_c

>>10338759
That is, indeed, tricky and not easier than painting. Will probably try it out at some point though, see if I can get it to work on some random scraps.

Thanks!

>>10337645
Nowhere in the US, probably. Titties are the Devil's funbags.

This thread got very incel-ish.

Let's redirect the subject. What's up folks? Any recent projects?

>>10339289
talking about armour and weapons are now considered incelish?

>>10338741
So, I just found out I have much more cash to waste on armour than I thought. If my budget, say, doubled, would your advice be any different?

>>10339503
yeah, don't buy Mytholon armour ever if you can help it.
Though if you have a little more wiggle room the question arise what is the purpose for the armour. Is it for a larp where you just want to look cool, or you want to actually move a lot in it, or want it to be functional thickness and hardness wise too, etc.

>>10339509
Purely looks. It won't actually protect anything anyway, just the generic fantasy forearms-shoulders-head protection and fuck the rest.

>>10339511
>just the generic fantasy forearms-shoulders-head protection and fuck the rest
second hand armor would be the best bet in my opinion, or look up your local reenactor facebook market or the like (upstarting blacksmiths can be good too)

Technically you can buy the larpshop armours too, but look into it, technically you get what you pay for, but most of the mare really thin and not hardened at all, which means you can bend them by hand.

>>10339298
No, the tit-talk.

More armour is always welcome.

>>10339511
No really, Mytholon is over-priced trash, even as costume pieces. Its horribly designed, poorly sized, uncomfortable, and badly finished (rough, sharp edges, improperly seated rivets, etc)

>>10339655
>Mytholon is over-priced trash, even as costume pieces. Its horribly designed, poorly sized, uncomfortable, and badly finished (rough, sharp edges, improperly seated rivets, etc)
THIS. All true.

>>10339655
talking about tits is considered incelish? Holy shit, I lived my life in the wrong way....

I just rather go and disembowel someone.

Hey, I was wondering if anyone's got a file dump or something for campfire cooking recipes at LARP events. I have a cast-iron Dutch oven and a tripod with suspension chains for it. Was wondering if you've got any ideas for what's awesome to make with it on a campfire that will make people pause when they're passing by. Suggestions on the cheap are welcome, I don't expect to be barbecuing eels at an event (yet).

Summoning Gropey with, well, Gropey.

>>10340077
If you want to flex with cooking Townsends his Youtube channel is a good place to start. Depending on wether you want to take full on historical or a more LARP-y route there's some other ways to go.

In our Dutch Ovens we already pizza calzones at a LARP event, works like a charm, simple, perfectly nice food. Just don't cook for more than 4 people if you want to have an evening.

For more historical cooking I don't know if you speak Dutch/Flemish because I've got a massive fuckton of 14th and 15th century cookbooks laying about in PDF format.

>>10339289
Just finished a set of mi-parti split hosen for my Reisläufer kit, and started the work on a new canon with some friends for a "I can't believe it's not the old world" Battle LARP in a local castle.

>>10340077
Tell me more. How long is the event, for how many are you cooking, how long does your food need to survive outside the fridge prior to cooking?

>>10339891
Talking about how to specifically make a topless LARP is top tier cringe.

>>10340077
Is that baby Gropey?!

>>10340261
talking about larp in the US is cringe

>>10340426
You're cringe.

>>10340241
The event is 3 days, 2 nights, roughly, but feast is one of those days so I won't need to cook for one day unless I just want to. I doubt I'm cooking for more than six people, but I'm not averse to the idea of having enough on-hand to make multiple batches of whatever in case more blunder by. I have a bunch of coolers so perishables are not going to be a problem within the timeframe of the event, even if I don't use everything I bring it'll still keep until I get home to the fridge/freezer.
>>10340218
I speak Google Translate. I'll check out that Youtube channel.
>>10340262
Yeah, from back when LARP threads were on /tg/ and actually got noticed.

>>10340547
Like >>10340218 says, Townsends is really good. It's mostly American Civil War timeframe cooking instead of medieval, but it's really fucking useful for camp cooking recipes.

I'm guessing it's the usual friday evening to sunday afternoon type larp, and you're looking for a meal for friday evening, yes? In that case, I'd recommend a stew or soup of some variety. Pretty easy to make. Especially if you cut stuff in advance and stick it in a freezer until you head to the event, you can save a lot of time on cooking.

Since you have a Dutch oven, consider baking bread in the morning. If you want an eye-turner, freshly baked bread is the way to go if you ask me.

Protip: if you're planning on doing IC cooking, try it out at home first. Write down everything you use: knives, cutting boards, towels, oven mitts, etc. This way you won't find out on the event you're missing something essential.

>>10340547
does Gropey still post?

>>10339655
>>10339753
Why this is the perfect time to ask how to maintain a mytholon helm. It’s a dark finish one.
I just need to know what kind of products to buy. Trust you guys more than googling for hours aimlessly.

>>10340218
I'll take those cookbooks, even if I have to run them through ocr and translate them. Add them to my collection.

>>10340547
>>10340872
I'm tarded and don't know how to upload files so here's some links to DBNL, on the left are your PDF download buttons.

Rn I'll just send some of these, if you need even more I'll look into getting a dropbox or summin.

https://www.dbnl.org/tekst/_not001nota01_01/

https://doritaopursula.firebaseapp.com/eenen-nyeuwen-coock-boeck-kookboeck-samengesteld-door-gheeraert-vorselman-en-gedrukt-te-antwerpen-in-1560-uitgegeven-en-van-commentaar-voorzi-B0Pcr.pdf

https://www.dbnl.org/tekst/jans016keuk01_01/jans016keuk01_01_0006.php

>>10341101
Tyvm. If I can remember tomorrow I'll upload my mostly English (I think one french) cookbook collection somewhere public.

>>10340547
>>10341548
decided to just go ahead and hop on PC tonight. the Cooking.rar file contains most of the cookbooks i have digitally. sorted by author (64 Authors), mostly english text. some modern, some old, some first hand, some third hand. some source books, some compiled.

for good measure, I also stuck in the MTA and Leather and leatherworking in anglo-scandanavian and medieval york. veel free to direct people there, but it's a free account.

https://mega.nz/#F!29cUSCDQ!MKO7UNo1N2UiSk-iL7Ockg

>>10341101
I meant to tag you here >>10341601, but somehow tagged myself...

>>10341601
Great work mate, love it. And I think you can never share the mta too much.

Good afternoon, frens.

So I just bought myself a scrappy set of metal armor for my larp. Came greased to shit and ready for action. Everything is there outside of tassets and gauntlets. However, I have a question for the more experienced individuals here. So I am thinking about ways to keep rust off this stuff since I'm too much of a poorfag to afford stainless, and I want to go as hard as possible in this stuff. Tromping through swamps and playing up battle deaths and hits in full plate. But I'm also lazy and don't want to have to be careful with the stuff outside of the occasional maintenance oiling.

Is there any way I can weatherproof this shit to keep the water and dirt from chewing holes in my armor? I was thinking slapping the stuff with some rustolium (US equivalent of hammerite) or poly coating the exposed surfaces, but I also have literally no idea what I'm doing.

Any advice?

>>10347057
any coating that designed to keep metal rust safe is good enough, as long as you don't lick it all the time. Technically you could paint it too.
other than that, any mineral based oil good for maintaining your armor.

>>10347266
Thanks. In that case, maybe ill bring one of the greaves into the home depot and ask around for some recommendations for what to buy to seal this shit down.

Why doesn't america have any good larp weapon retailers that aren't just fucking calimacil and epic armory?!? I've been looking for a poleaxe/halberd with a stab safe spike. I know calimacil technically has one, but the head is so small that I looks goofy when mounted on a proper sized pole. Money isn't an object here, but if I can get away from this without having to spend 400+ for a dunkelart weapon from across the pond.

>>10347057
>Is there any way I can weatherproof this shit to keep the water and dirt from chewing holes in my armor?
Do not use WD40. This >>10347266 advice is sound, but google might tell you to use WD40 instead. Don't listen to them.

Briefly put, WD40 drives away water but also whatever protective coating is already on your armour (excluding paint, obviously).

What are your thoughts on polurethane armor?

>>10348532
Polyurethane, shit

>>10348532
Nice cosplay.

In alle honesty it van look good but only for high fantasy stuff. No problem if you use IT for health reasons.

Guys I wanna play a fantasy Chad. What is the most Chad weapon choice? Currently thinking either sword and viking-size shield so I could protect everyone, or some greatsword to swing around as if Conan went to HEMA lessons or something.

>>10348532
Other than the subjective realism vs game-y look choice, the two main reasons I'd go with Poly armour:

*If you have any physical issues with the armour's weight, toughness etc
*If there's some elaborate design you'd need to sell a kidney to have in actual metal (Like the Eagle Wings breastplate or animal head pauldrons on Wyrmwick)

Otherwise I'd go for metal, but I'm not really going to look down on anyone going with 'fake' armours

>>10348533
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bICSbsCro_8

>>10349000
Common wisdom holds that if you have to ask how to be a chad on 4chan, you won't be successful anyway

>>10349000
>>10349379
A real chad would sign up for the army and wield a real weapon. Don't be a dishonorably valor stealing coward wearing fake armor. you'll never be a chad that way friendo.

>>10349000
There were chads with every weapon out there my dude - The Viking of Stamford Bridge used a Dane Axe, Guan Yu uses a basically-glave, Porthos from the 3 Musketeers uses a rapier and Braum from LoL uses a tower shield. Though bascially:

-If you care about being a badass defender, and can actually make people feel safe, pick up a shield
-If you want to overcompensate and look anime, use a Montante or something.


>>10349382
This, but also don't do that lmao. Depending on yor country, chances are you're either not going to do much, or have a fair chance of getting shot. There are a lot of places you can volunteer and achieve glory if that really is your thing.

t. Served for 3 years in mandatory millitary as a medic, and all I got was this lousey uniform, cool stories to tell girls and severe mental instability.

Almost five years ago, the consensus in this /tg/ thread - https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/40119717/ - was that US larps are basically fucked and won't improve within the lifetime of anyone reading the thread. Has that changed at all?

Also, there's the question of why this is so. In that thread and the one before it, this theory is put forward:

>Expending effort and time takes both those things away from you, for no concrete, quantifiable benefit. In addition, it gets you labeled as a "tryhard" and makes the people around you upset.

>Putting in effort for things that aren't either considered manly or that don't make you money are generally seen as suspect.

Hungarian LARPfag has another theory (https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/cgl/thread/10265314/#10317856):

>All in all, in the US, people care an awfully lot about what other people do and they even want to control it either with actions or opinions. In most European countries that's way tamer, or in Eastern Europe we just simply doesn't give a fuck about others.

There's also the question of what should be done about shitty US larps when one finds them. Try to improve them by example? Get the fuck out of Dodge before you become like them? Pull a Robbie Rotten and tell the location's owner lies about the larp to get them booted out?

>>10349793
Lord knows, I've tried. Its a lost cause.

>>10350547
Would you say the bad reputation of US larps negatively affects the reputation of larps in other countries?

Has anyone here ever run a small group LARP? How’s it done? Where do you find scenarios that aren’t cringe-tier?

>>10349793
truth to be told my theory is just an addition to the other, as why the tryhard labelling happens.

It always good practice that when you found the root of your problems (or at least you think so) try to look deeper and find out what is the reason for that thing, etc. Granted, it can became really philosophically really fast and you can reach the point of "fuck this gay earth" so caution advised

>>10351052
depends on what you mean by small group larps.

>>10351135
Like a typical RP group size and a day-long plot.

>>10351151
thats basically a chamber larp size. nothing really outstanding with it.

>>10351052
>Has anyone here ever run a small group LARP?
Yeah, multiple times.

>How’s it done?
Mostly in the same way as a pnp session, but you gotta make sure you have a large enough room to host it in first.

>Where do you find scenarios that aren’t cringe-tier?
I've used one scenario found at https://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/LARP_Scenarios.. The quality is variable but there's some good ones in the list.

However, the true answer is "write it yourself". I coincidentally hosted a workshop on writing chamber larps last Wednesday, so if you want I can type out more advice.

Lads, I'm making a longbowman character (think warhammer Brets, not English) and I need a gambeson.
I like this one
https://www.aketon.pl/sklep/historical-clothing/arming-garments-en/gambeson-model-8-2/?lang=en

But at the same time I want a gambeson more suitable for armoring up in the future, and having a long model doesn't look quite as popular as a shorter one among plate armor users.
Should I go with this model instead?
https://www.aketon.pl/sklep/historical-clothing/arming-garments-en/gambeson-model-4-3/?lang=en

>>10350779
Absolutely. When a random person googles about larp and sees a low quality US larp it gives out the same impression for the hobby as a whole.

>>10351218
surpsiginly I've encountered at lest three different new larpers in my country who got informed about larps (and their existence) through the youtube channel of momo obrien. though two of those went to only one larp ever and never continued it later, and even the remaining one had serious misconceptions

>>10351168
So that’s the term? Cool, I’ll search for more info on that.

>>10351172
If you could type it up that’d be awesome. Thanks, man.

>>10351304
chamber larps are not really defined by the size but usually they are smaller. what really defines time is that USUALLY it takes place in a room, or a few rooms, story is short, characters are pre written to some degree and it needs very little preparation from the players part plus it is replayable.
Also more often than not it doesn't have any combat in it

>>10351218
Then something needs to be fucking done about it. We need to lie to larp location owners so they boot out every last shitty larp in the country.

>>10351502
feel free to start it, but if you accept an advice, first you have to think through what counts as a shitty larp and how can you distinguish it from a non shitty larp

>>10351305
Kinda busy today, but I'll get to it tomorrow or the day after. Anything particular you're looking for?

>>10351189
Go with the second one, it looks better, is technically more historical, and is far far better for under armor use.

>>10351540
Alright, thanks for reassuring my thoughts!

>>10338385
look into galvanizing pens

https://youtu.be/4jwvy5x9t8I

sorry for the german, couldn't find any english sources for this

I know this is pretty specific, but does anyone know where i can get a goose themed medival looking ring? looked everywhere and found nothing

>>10351134
>you can reach the point of "fuck this gay earth" so caution advised

AKA Rick Sanchez Syndrome. People assume that everything about Rick and Morty is shit because of its fans but it gets at least one thing right: Don't Think About It.

>>10351935
well, another good practice is, when you feel overwhelmed by a task just take a step back and break it down to simpler tasks. It's kind of the opposite of the first thing, but you need to have the "big picture" beforehand to know towards what you work.

I went to a local LARPfest and it was so bad. From the props to how everything was set up it was like I was in a middle school play. There was also a group of people that were larping as Jesus and the three wise men. Boy did I give them an earful. I get that people are just trying to have fun and all but dressing up as our lord and savor is crossing the line. I gave them a lecture about the bible and sent them on their way after they took off their outfits.

>>10351938
>I gave them a lecture about the bible and sent them on their way after they took off their outfits.
>lecture about the bible
>they took off their outfits
>middle school

the joke writes itself

>>10351939
Don't reply to Soupposting

>>10351305
Alrighty, here we go. I'll start with the disclaimer: this is MY way of writing chamber larps, not THE way of writing chamber larps. If you have any reason to deviate from my advice, do so by all means. Furthermore, I'm not claiming my advice is all there is to know.

First off, there's three pieces of storytelling advice that come back all the time:
- Talk to your players.
- Have fun.
- Everything should have a purpose.
Keep them in mind at all times. 90% of ST advice questions on /tg/ can be solved by one of these.

When writing a chamber larp, I use the following step-by-step approach:
1) Where and with whom?
2) Explore limitations and possibilities
3) Bottom-up high concept formulation
4) Writing
5) Arranging neccesities
6) Running

First of all, you want to know the room you're playing in. Before everything else know your location. Likewise, know how many players you should expect. Once you know this, take a good look around your room. Look at which possible disruptions arise from the location, and which opportunities arise from it. For instance, if your room has a rattling boiler in it, it will be disruptive if you're playing a medieval game. However, at the same time, it might be a great prop when used in a game set aboard a ship. Think about how to capitalize on opportunities and how to eliminate disruptions. Remember: using decoration to make a room look like something it's not is good, but needing the room to look exactly like it already looks is better.

Only once you know what your room looks like and what kind of opportunities it offers do you start thinking about what kind of larp you want to run.

(cont.)

>>10351983
>Only once you know what your room looks like and what kind of opportunities it offers do you start thinking about what kind of larp you want to run.
That's the core idea of bottom-up larp writing. Instead of working towards an idea, you work from the location you've got. In nearly all cases, you end up with an idea that's just as cool but much more easy to implement. You're running a chamber larp, you're highly likely to be on a tight budget, so ease is a very important factor to consider.

Come up with a high concept that makes use of the opportunities you've found earlier. At this point, you should have several ideas ready. Pick whatever one you like. Choose a setting and a rough idea for what the larp is about.

At this point, you probably want to start thinking about what rules to use. Since there's few good generic larp systems out there, you'll probably end up writing your own. Ask yourself these three questions:

"What do I want and need rules for?"
Think about which actions you can see coming. Will there be fighting? Will people try to interact with certain items? Will people try to scare or intimidate others, or will they try diplomacy? Remember that you don’t need to make rules for everything: a lot of things can be resolved by case-by-case adjudication. Since I'm assuming here you’re working in a relatively tight timespan, a rules-light system is probably preferable. All time spent explaining rules is time lost playing, after all.

"How ST intensive are my rules?"
ST’s can’t be everywhere at once, even if they’d like to be. Therefore, it is advisable to write some rules that the players can use without an ST present. There are many ways in which you can do this: having players compare scores or do rock-paper-scissors is a good way to resolve simple conflicts. Likewise, you can simply give certain characters actions that they are guaranteed to succeed at.

(cont.)

>>10351983
Don’t write rules that require constant ST calls. Projecting aura’s, telepathy, those kind of things. Ideally, you want players to be able to do their thing, give a single call, and then have players go back to doing their thing. After all, you’ll be needed in more places than one as an ST. Write characters with this in mind, and have IC abilities be both interesting and feasible. If you can’t avoid rules that require frequent calls, try to give the ability to express the rule to the player. Either use some form of colour-coding, or write a call in the rules that the player can use.

"Which fun rules do I want?"
There is a lot of value in fun rules. Not only for the entertainment they can provide, but also for the way they can shape the larp. Specific rules can be used to drive home genre conventions and manage expectations. A good example is the 'Allo 'Allo larp in the link I posted earlier. One of their rules is simply "All disguises work". A rule like that immediately lets everyone know what they're in for.

I'm going to skip ahead a bit now because I don't feel like typing some bits out.

(cont.)

>>10351988
Plots can often go in different directions. Choices players make can have a great impact on the plot. Make sure to account for these eventualities. Make sure to predict a “best case” and a “worst case” scenario, and make sure you are able to play out any outcome in between. If players could make a choice that would completely shatter the plot, make sure they can’t make that choice.

A good example of the latter is the classic "remote island syndrome". Many horror stories would crumble if the characters could just walk out and leave, therefore they don't have the option.

A good way of visualizing your plots is by making a plot tree. Ask yourself which choices and which actions could cause a plot to head in a different direction. This way, you can make sure you’ve prepared for all eventualities you’ve foreseen. Of course, if you think of a dozen ways in which your players could screw up, your players will managed to find a thirteenth. Therefore, try to predict general occurrences (e.g. “players bite” or “players don’t bite”) instead of specific actions.

It is absolutely okay to make use of quantum ogres. A quantum ogre can best be explained by the classic example: players reach a crossroad. They can take the mountainous northern road or the swampy southern road towards their destination. If they take the northern road, they will encounter a bunch of mountain ogres. If they take the southern road, they will encounter a bunch of swamp ogres. Despite having made a choice, the players still arrive at the prepared material. Obviously, don’t let them find out. Likewise, many choices can influence the plot without significantly changing the general outcome.

>>10351989
Starts and endings
Two key points in a plot are the start and the ending. These are the things that most need active management by ST’s. Think in terms of scenes.

Starting up a plot is relatively simple, but shouldn’t be forgotten. Plan out some explicit action that kickstarts the plot. Depending only on player initiative might cause the plot to not get started in the first place. Remember: this isn’t necessarily a problem for all plots.

Likewise, make sure to prepare a satisfying ending. Plan out a single, definitive scene, that ends the plot. Make it something that everyone who was involved in the plot can get involved in, and something that all their actions have led up to. Ideally, make it the final “tipping point” of the plot. However, it can be unsatisfying if the game ends immediately at the end of this scene. Try to give players enough time to finish their scenes before the game ends.

As mentioned before, larps need to be prepared beforehand. This leaves less room for on-the-spot improvisation. Nonetheless, you want to be able to accelerate a stagnating plot or slow down a plot that is going too fast. These I call accelerants and slows, respectively. If you’ve got a plot tree, it’ll come in handy here. For each main plot event, ask yourself these questions:
- What could happen that could immediately resolve this plot point?
- What could happen that could cause this plot point to be halted indefinitely?
- How could I solve these problems?

Accelerants and slows don’t necessarily need NPC’s. It is perfectly fine to give players an OC hint of reminder of something. Don’t tell them what to do though.

(cont.)

>>10351990
When writing characters, remember that NPC's are limited resources. Arranging NPC’s is difficult, and you’ll usually have much less NPC’s available than players. Therefore, the most important rule is: if you can, make it a player! Usually, you can either simplify a role to the point an ST can quickly play it before returning to ST duties, or expand it to make it playable for the entire larp. Keep in mind that NPC’s are people too, and playing NPC roles should be interesting and compelling too!

There are several important pointers that apply to larp (player) characters:
- Especially if you’re dealing with somewhat controversial topics, matching players to characters can make the game more interesting for everyone.
- Give characters IC motivations instead of OC goals. Especially new players will see OC goals as a to-do list, and feel disappointed when they fail some of them. Instead, give players motivations, and make it clear to them that those motivations are allowed to change in game.
- Don’t set up players for guaranteed failure unless you tell them in advance. Most players don’t mind “losing” in game, but never having a chance to win in the first place can lead to out-of-game bad feelings.
- Like asymmetrical information, asymmetrical connections are good for instant drama.

(cont.)

>>10351992
Lastly, here's a load of generic advice:
- Remember that everything in a larp must be prepared beforehand. You have very little room for improvisation.
- Manage your time cleverly and actively.
- Don't over-write. Players will drive the action out of their own actions. Furthermore, things WILL go wrong due to poor reading comprehension.
- Questionnaires are your friend. If you can spare the time, have your players fill them in.
- Break the circle. Set up your room in such a way that multiple smaller conversations naturally arise instead of one large one. Especially when you have less than seven players, you probably need split conversations for the game to work.
- KISS. Keep It Simple, Stupid.
- Avoid sensitive topics unless you know your players.
- Information asymmetry makes good instant drama.
- Don't make most interesting things happen outside the session room. Bring the drama inside.
- Never "call" a room to suddenly represent something else than it originally did, unless all players are in it.
- Make the background relevant to the larp. The background of each character should meaningfully tie into the events on the larp itself.
- Don't make plots hinge on the initiative of a single player if you want the plot to work.
- Time plot twists at about one-third of the larp. Any earlier and status quo hasn't been established yet. Any later and players will feel salty because their earlier efforts suddenly became irrelevant.
- Don't have a "everything is now different" ending, like the emperor dying or the evil god being released. It'll leave a bad taste in the mouth of many players.
- Don't limit the conclusion of the larp to a limited group. Many, MANY larps make the mistake of having a plot where the final scene is only relevant to magic-users or nobility.

That's all I've covered during the workshop, but I'm willing to give more advice if you want.

>>10351996
>Furthermore, things WILL go wrong due to poor reading comprehension.
So much this. Sometimes you think your players are functionally illiterate

Hey guys, I asked this in /tg/ and I was recommended to come ask here (I've literally never been on this board in my life), and ask for Gropey specifically.

So, I'm doing an Orc costume (Not a LARP, I should point out - I won't be wearing this for an extended period of multiple days, more like just a few hours but I'd love to try LARP at some point in a proper capacity) for a fantasy-themed party in a month or so, I bought myself some dark green facepaint, ect, but I forgot to buy detail facepaints.

However, I have a SHIT-TON of green Citadel paints of different shades (and whites/blacks for shade changing of course) and as far as I'm aware, Citadel paint is non-toxic but is hard to get off skin. Rather than forking out for more ACTUAL facepaints with less shades, I'm tempted to just use my citadel paints.I should point out, this is my first time dressing in ANY sort of costume, cosplay or LARP outfit, and I'm on a bit of a budget, hence this decision. I've used my hand as a palette a good few times while drybrushing and it's not caused any issues.

That being said, I'm wondering as to whether since the application of facepaint FIRST will work as a "basecoat", it'd make the Citadel paints easier to remove. Any thoughts? Pic unrelated.

I'm also in the mind of using Corvus Black with a more-than-acceptable amount of water as a makeshift dye for my facial hair but I'm a lot less enthusiastic about that ACTUALLY working.

Hey guys, I asked this in /tg/ and I was recommended to come ask here (I've literally never been on this board in my life), and ask for Gropey specifically.

So, I'm doing an Orc costume (Not a LARP, I should point out - I won't be wearing this for an extended period of multiple days, more like just a few hours but I'd love to try LARP at some point in a proper capacity) for a fantasy-themed party in a month or so, I bought myself some dark green facepaint, ect, but I forgot to buy detail facepaints.

However, I have a SHIT-TON of green Citadel paints of different shades (and whites/blacks for shade changing of course) and as far as I'm aware, Citadel paint is non-toxic but is hard to get off skin. Rather than forking out for more ACTUAL facepaints with less shades, I'm tempted to just use my citadel paints.I should point out, this is my first time dressing in ANY sort of costume, cosplay or LARP outfit, and I'm on a bit of a budget, hence this decision. I've used my hand as a palette a good few times while drybrushing and it's not caused any issues.

That being said, I'm wondering as to whether since the application of facepaint FIRST will work as a "basecoat", it'd make the Citadel paints easier to remove. Any thoughts?

I'm also in the mind of using Corvus Black with a more-than-acceptable amount of water as a makeshift dye for my facial hair but I'm a lot less enthusiastic about that ACTUALLY working.

>>10357190
Gropey is busy with museum stuff and doesn't post as much as he used to but his makeup guide is always useful. He does occasionally pop in though.

>>10352000
>Sometimes you think your players are functionally illiterate
Fucking truth.

>>10352000
PLEASE don't paint on your face or try to dye your hair with acrylic model paints. It will not work at all the way you're thinking and will end in tears. Just try to find a local costume store or order offline.

>>10357649
>Gropey is busy with museum stuff
Not anymore I'm not. Everything is on lockdown due to covid-19 outbreaks.

Do I do it?
https://www.medievalcollectibles.com/product/joerg-landsknecht-doublet/
My friends have a Larp they want to go to this summer and want to do a warhammer theme at the ren faire this year. I have a couple basic medieval-ish costumes but have always wanted to go for a landsknecht look. Corona Chan - may end up canceling both so idk. My girlfriend makes a lot of clothing but I’d almost feel bad asking her to help me work on Larp shit.

>>10359501
holy shit, it's overpriced as shit. I mean it's kind of okay from mytholon where the price is just a fraction of that, but it's robbary at daylight from that site.

Also, do whatever the fuck, but just so you know that thing is as much landsknecht themed as a horsedick is a flute

>>10359501
>https://www.medievalcollectibles.com/product/joerg-landsknecht-doublet/
That's really not worth the money pal, esp. since they're in the end-of-stock sale at Mytholon for like 30 something euros.

>>10359501
Hell to the fuck no. It's literally a glorified shirt with no mass, made of crappy cotton (that hasn't even been preshrunk), that's poorly designed and assembled. I see wannabe landsknechts waste money on these all the time.

Save the money and invest in better stuff.

>>10359676
>>10359732
>>10359751
Thank you. Would you have any recommendations?

>>10359753
stay inside, minimize contact with other people, have some proper food at home and don't panic

>>10359753
tp

>>10358622
Where did you get your mask?

>>10359753
Unless you're on a large budge, learn to sew or do anything other than Landsknecht fashion.

Cheapest kit to get would be to hit up a seamstress, or guys like the Bors LARP props team and get them to commission something like tellerbretbaret and a waffenrok for you.

>>10352504
a tellerbarret is one of the few things that nearly anyone can make and also good for practice. Obviously it can be pimped to infinity with enough experience but the design is simple and hard to fuck it up

>>10360908
oh for fuck sake...
intended to reply to this >>10360542

>>10331775
I'm kind of interested in LARP but I don't really know where to start. There are so many different types of cons and rules, and I have no idea if I'll enjoy combat or roleplay or what have you. How do I start, /cgl/? Pls redpill me on LARP

>>10361014
Where are you located? That makes a lot of difference.

In general, start by picking a larp that interests you, then ask on their Facebook page.

>>10361020
I'm in Germany, near the Austrian border.

>>10361034
you have picked a very bad time for larping, with all the pandemic going around and stuff like that. But for germany there is larper.ning a social media for german speaking larpers though I don't know how active it is lately.
The mythodea and Drachenfest facebook groups also worth checking out as a lot of people are there so you can contact a lot of different groups.
That's for contacting your local larp scene.

As for what game you will like: fuck knows. There is only one way to find out: go for lots of different larps (which isn't an option right now so there is that) and also make sure you try stuff out not just once but 2 or 3 times but in different games. Like people will do combat differently in every game, same is for social interaction and the like.

>>10361335
>go for lots of different larps (which isn't an option right now so there is that)

Also, it might never be an option again, ever. We have no goddamn idea what the world is going to be like after all this.

>>10361341
postapoc larps are a thing, but now we will have way more immersion

>>10361341
I guess life will be going on as usual. The spanish flu also wasn't the end of the world and neither was the plague.

>>10361929
>The spanish flu also wasn't the end of the world and neither was the plague
...you do realize that both,
- especially the bubonic plague- radically and permanently change society and humanity forever, yeah?

>>10362018
Yes and I said end of the world and not that it didn't change society at all. But pretending that there might never be a LARP event again because of corona is a bit hysteric in my opinion. Public gatherings and so on continued after both of these events and so it will be this time again. The governments off the nations which did get hit by Corona will be forced to revise their politics regarding epidemics but they can't afford to keep their populations isolated at home forever. At some point during this year life will be going back to "normal" due to economic and societal needs.

>>10339289
Using the free time to make a 13th century kit.
Studying some cantigas from the cantigas de santa maria on that citole too

>>10362746
ah fuck it went sideways, sorry

>>10339289
Started work on my "I-can't-believe-it's-not-Jaskier" kit. Going to pause it now for a little bit while working on a new interpretation of a 15th century Italian kit for another LARP where my character was murdered last time.

>>10362746
Lookin' good brah

>>10331922
Redpill me on Freyhand pls. I always thought their stuff is some of best out there oO

>>10362818
really like their stuff, their topcoat is amazing. They do cut some corners in the productionline sometimes and their customer servise is utter shite though

>>10362818
Pretty much what >>10362819 said. Let me start off by saying I love Freyhand, they make good quality weapons far more available. If I need a quick NPC weapon, or something that I can use in general they're my go-to.

They're like the smart man's Mytholon.
They do make rather straight forward weaponry, their screw-pole weapons have been super inventive but also riddled with some kiddy diseases. As to be expected though.
All in all they cut corners, sometimes have a little messy paint jobs, *but* considering price quality they're one of the top-dogs in the market.

I'm still in awe at their cheap bollock dagger line, or f.e. their bauernmesser (farmer's knife, sort of a small messer) which are cheap, sturdy, and just add so much to a character on their own.

>>10362834
cannot recommend their budget mace enough

>>10362799
Speaking of witcher mood kits

>>10339289
Finished this joined hose yesterday.

>>10362746
Looks awesome!

>>10362799
I am not sure how to articulate this, but it looks... Low-res? Like, for LARP costume, it's great, but the lack of points, the chunkiness of the details, and the fit measure to modern wearing habits, etc make it look like you took a Warhammer miniature, and just blew it up life-size, but it was a grunt and doesn't have that much detail to it. Like, 15th century history nerd uncanny valley.

>>10363466
Looks amazing! Where did you get the fluted vambraces?

I'm currently revamping my soft kit, and starting with changing out my Della Francesca shirts for Lengberg style pleated collar shirts for my 1480s+ general aesthetic.

>>10360230
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00SZJK1ZM/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I just added glass lenses from some 18thC repro spectacles.

>>10363981
Looks very halloween store, why would you get it?

Shit, it's been years since I've came into a larpthread. I hope everyone is fine in these troubling times.
All of my larps have cancelled their next events, including the 40k one I help run. It truly is dark times for the foreseeable future.

>>10364669
Sake, forgot my name.

>>10364660
>Halloween store
I think it looks cool. Do they even have Halloween in Hungary?

>>10364660
Don't get what you mean. It looks like a paper mache Venetian Carnival mask, which it is, and is the point.

Way better than the shitty pleather and snap rivet bullshit people wear

>>10364660
I dunno. >>10358622 looks p.good.

>>10363974
Thanks!
I bought them second handed from a jouster.
They're based on the Lionel lord Welles effigy.
I'm planning on making a pair of bicep plates to match.

>>10364708
Hungary doesn't have Halloween, only depression and alcoholism

>>10365000
Awesome, figured they were English. Where you located? I can only think of one US armourer who makes them.

>>10365002
How's that different from the rest of the year?

>>10365006
I'm located in the Netherlands

>>10365006
>How's that different from the rest of the year?
every holiday have different flavor of hatred

Spring storms brought down a couple of trees at a campaign area. This one in particular narrowly avoided destroying any buildings or props despite being in the middle of a village.

>>10331775
Hi everyone, I'm writing a larp about V:tM larps. It will be meta as fuck, and contain everything wrong with old V:tM larps. However, I need your help a bit with knowing what kind of bullshit I should put in there.

Please share your worst V:tM larp horror stories.

Pic related.

>>10365250
>I need your help a bit with knowing what kind of bullshit I should put in there.
the things that makes a vtm larp really terrible is the players. so find the shittiest players that are possible

>>10365461
>so find the shittiest players that are possible
Well, I'll certainly WRITE shitty players. Remember that this is not a "Vampire" larp but a "Vampire larp" larp. Each out-of-game player will receive a larp character AND their larp character's Vampire larp character.

I certainly hope that the actual players that show up to this larp aren't shitty players, because I'll basically be running larp satire.

>>10365670
then in my opinion the two main group that shits up a vampire live is people who have no proper social contacts and all they have are the players of the game so they try to live there. The other kind is the powertrippers who have either no control over their life or over anyone and they want to feel that control, or just simple control freaks.

Apart from this if you want to represent the shittiest part of vampire lives stereotypically:
- ingame the vampires come together every month or so and so are the players. preferably in a pub or something. The vampires are just an excuse to a bunch of people to come together drinking
- It's an elysium every fucking time (or the sabbat equivalent, but those are a whole other can of worms) either AGAIN something is attacking or literally nothing happens.
- Everyone in everyday cloths or some """nice""" cloths they got back in college but some will have little pieces of paper that say shit like "armani suit"
- players are the extension of their characters, not the other way around. If the character fails in any ways then YOU the player failed at LIFE. Act accordingly.
- In the character backgrounds you have more special than in a playground for autistic kids.
- More handsigns that you remember so the tabletop rules can be raped into a larp ruleset. Actually forget the larp rulesets, just make a handsign for every fucking things that in the tabletop ruleset. (or in the meta larp make a character trait of how good you actually understand the rules, use that number to succed in anything BUT you have to use some retarded hand sign)
- There should be a meta larp trait about how good of friends you are with the organizers. Also inbreeding.

These are just some stuff from the top of my head, probably there are others, but keep us updated, I'm very interested in your concept

>>10365670
then in my opinion the two main group that shits up a vampire live is people who have no proper social contacts and all they have are the players of the game so they try to live there. The other kind is the powertrippers who have either no control over their life or over anyone and they want to feel that control, or just simple control freaks.

Apart from this if you want to represent the shittiest part of vampire lives stereotypically:
- ingame the vampires come together every month or so and so are the players. preferably in a pub or something. The vampires are just an excuse to a bunch of people to come together drinking
- It's an elysium every fucking time (or the sabbat equivalent, but those are a whole other can of worms) either AGAIN something is attacking or literally nothing happens.
- Everyone in everyday cloths or some """nice""" cloths they got back in college but some will have little pieces of paper that say shit like "armani suit"
- players are the extension of their characters, not the other way around. If the character fails in any ways then YOU the player failed at LIFE. Act accordingly.
- In the character backgrounds you have more special than in a playground for autistic kids.
- More handsigns that you remember so the tabletop rules can be raped into a larp ruleset. Actually forget the larp rulesets, just make a handsign for every fucking things that in the tabletop ruleset. (or in the meta larp make a character trait of how good you actually understand the rules, use that number to succed in anything BUT you have to use some retarded hand sign)
- There should be a meta larp trait about how good of friends you are with the organizers. Also inbreeding.

These are just some stuff from the top of my head, probably there are others, but keep us updated, I'm very interested in your concept

>>10365855
Yes, perfect. Thanks!

>More handsigns that you remember so the tabletop rules can be raped into a larp ruleset. Actually forget the larp rulesets, just make a handsign for every fucking things that in the tabletop ruleset. (or in the meta larp make a character trait of how good you actually understand the rules, use that number to succed in anything BUT you have to use some retarded hand sign)
I'm definitely going to make some simple out of game rules that mimic the insanely complex in game Vampire ruleset, but I'm not entirely sure how to do it yet. My current idea is to use rock-paper-scissors with a bunch of modifications and special rules.

>keep us updated, I'm very interested in your concept
Will do!

>>10365670
Now, I not the kind of turboautist who larps VTM... But I have worked in French Quarter bars for a good chunk of my adult life.

And fuck do I have stories.

I wont spam them unless requested, but I will tell you that you're forgetting a stat that everyone takes a dump: venue relations. Make a metastat specifically for how much the particular bar or club they are in hates them, based on manners, tipping, ordering habits, and how much the other customers. Order politely and tip well? You get a bonus. Demand obnoxious non-menu mixed drinks and creep on the ladies near the bathroom? Negatives everywhere. High enough stats that you friendly with the doorman to beat the line, and the bartender's occasionally throw you a shot on house (both are great for impressing your obnoxious friends). Negative stats get you beaten by bouncer and banned from the premises.

>>10367540
>Negative stats get you beaten by bouncer and banned from the premises.
also may or may not called the cops on them.
Especially if the players send IN game bomb threats to the restaurant who supposed to be in the whole thing but apparently isn't. Just so I can mention a totally random example

>>10367540
>Make a metastat specifically for how much the particular bar or club they are in hates them
I like the idea, but I'm afraid it won't work with my setup. The current plan is to get a session room which is (both in-game and out-of-game) a small concert hall. Furthermore, since it's only a single-day one-shot, I want to keep the rulesets (especially the out-of-Vampire one) very light and simple.

I'm definitely going to write some drama regarding the owner/staff of the venue, though.

>I wont spam them unless requested
I'd like to see more activity in this thread, so I hereby request them.

>>10367607
>also may or may not called the cops on them
Good idea, and I even already have a police uniform at my disposal.

>>10331796
Basically this.

My only thing with them is to triple check them during weapon checks because they very easily hide critical damage because of the way they look and are made. A guy with a claymore cut my head wide open, you could see my skull. The fiberglass rod core broke about 2 inches down, but the foam made it look fine. The foam was rigid enough that at first glance no one noticed the tip. But when its swung it would expose the core that at this point is shaped like a razor.

3 internal stitches and 7 staples. Our photographer was on site so she got some good shots with my blood sprayed everywhere so that's pretty metal. Our website banner was my blood covering a war axe for a fair bit.

Another funny thing. When I went to the ER I was drenched in blood and soaked though someones jacket that was tied around my head. They rushed me back and began immediately. Forgot to give me pain killer though. They shaved my head, cleaned the wound and started stitching before they noticed and doped me up.

>>10367723
Is that a Calimacil-specific problem, then? To be fair, the only weapon I've ever found a broken core in was a Calimacil, but I'm curious what about them makes them more dangerous than other larp weapons wrt core breakage.

>>10367727
Idk, but most Calimacil weapons have a thin fiberglass rod less than half an inch in diameter in them. Its very strong and usually not a problem, one of the reasons why they are so sturdy. But if it does break it basically turns it into a glass dagger hidden in layers of flimsy foam. Which is what happened to me.

Remember to weapon check.

So, I was sent here because there are no more HEMA threads on /asp/ ever since the rasslin retards have taken over. Is it discussed here or are you only talking about costumes? I am talking about actual swordfencing and historic fencing manuals and such.

>>10370607
few of us actually practice HEMA. Usually it's not the focus of our discussion but if you have questions feel free to ask.

>>10370610
I see. I am a practicioner, pic related is my sword that has seen some action, so I don't have any questions per se, just wanted to see if there was a place to discuss.

>>10370612
personally I'm more of a messer practitioner, and by extension trying myself with dussacks the basics are nearly the same for those two.

>>10370614
Sadly we don't do that around here, but my instructor often travels around doing new stuff and some time ago he brought a (practice) Montante, a spanish kind of Zweihänder. They were mainly used for protection purposes, bodyguards etc. and the fighting style is basically what you see in wushu movies. Constant moving and twisting and twirling and using inertia so the group of highwaymen can't get to you. Of course you have to know what you are doing because after two minutes you're done and if you haven't cleared the situation by that time it's really bad.

>>10370617
I had a few lessons in montante, it's fun but it's sadly not for me, same for two swords fighting from Godinho.

>>10370607
>Is it discussed here or are you only talking about costumes?
It is not actively discussed here, but nobody will stop you if you try to get some discussion going.

Just don't try posting about HEMA on /tg/. Trust me.

>>10370717
it's still not as bad as /k/

>>10370721
/k/ is extremely low IQ and outside of their ARs and gearfaggotry they don't know anything about anything anyway.

>>10370723
pretty much. But on /tg/ you can actually find worthwhile discussion if you care to ignore a few retards here and there. The trick is to go there at Europe night time

>>10370721
/tg/ has a very specific hateboner for HEMA, though. A bunch of (pretend) HEMAfags occasionally use HEMA as an excuse for the obnoxious half-informed realismposting, and as a result a lot of people carry a grudge now.

>>10370778
that has nothing to do with hema. It's just people who watch too much youtube and retards who can't ignore bait.

>>10370784
True, but /tg/ hates HEMA now nonetheless

>>10370788
only the retards who's opinion didn't mattered to begin with. I mean they are people who couldn't realize that it was (pretty weak) trolling.
And there are a shitload of that kind of people everywhere, not just on /tg/

>>10347057

>>10370617
>>10370618
From y'all experience, how high is the skill cieling in Montante work? It feels like it is eventually summed up in 'Okay spin the thing when vs a lot o dudes' and 'Okay use it like a spear when vs a single dude'

I've just realized that after the coronavirus lockdowns, larps and some of their members are going to check in on all their members and find player after player who can't attend for the foreseeable future because they can't afford to, not to mention suicide after suicide after suicide.

>>10377738
>From y'all experience, how high is the skill cieling in Montante work?
you mean how skillful you can get in it at the max or what is the minimum so you won't embarrass yourself?

For the first, in my experience nearly every weapon has no upper celling, you can always get a better in techniques, and if you learned everything that one master can offer you can learn another one, or god forbid, start to combine several ones or find out your own techniques.
As for the beginner levels...
Well I a trained a lot of noobs and beginners (not the same sadly) and everything that use with both of your hand is the easier than something that you use only with one hand, and the hardest is something two things that you use separately (shields included, because I doesn't consider it using when you just hold it stationary in front of yourself)
This is doubly true for the noobs.

>>10377817
I meant the former.
And like... Yeah, you can always refine your tech a little more, but I mean how long it takes to get to the point where the things you need to improve are essentially nitpicking - Like aligining your body better, working on your cardio so you can swishwoosh around for longer etc and not like... Learn an entirely new tech.
Pikes for instance as far as I know have rather low skill cielings, since they're essentially 'stab', 'stab in one hand', stab with your dudes', maaaaaaybe some feints etc.


How do you differ noobs and beginners?

>>10378345
>I mean how long it takes to get to the point where the things you need to improve are essentially nitpicking
entirely depends on the person. One person might can get at the good level in a year, another might do it in three years. Depends on how good you understand it how much time you spend on it and are you doing it continuously or with bigger breaks. There is no set amount. I mean I could tell you random numbers like one year hard training or something but then I would just pull numbers out of my ass because you would obviously train differently than the people I know, and also you will have a different concept of what counts as good.
Like for me someone can get good just by doing the motions and everything but can only get to an expert level if he UNDERSTANDS what is done and why, including the historical context like why this weapons was used against what, why this master do this instead what the other master do, etc.
Anyway as montante and other big swords doesn't have that complicated codexes (or many surviving ones for that matter) I would say with a really intense training you can make pretty youtube videos in a month or two, if that counts.

>Pikes for instance as far as I know have rather low skill cielings, since they're essentially 'stab', 'stab in one hand', stab with your dudes', maaaaaaybe some feints etc
as long as we are talking about the long pikes. Half pikes on the other hand are basically spears.
Also for long pikes there is the whole thing of it being a formation weapon so being disciplined and moving in formation is more important than anything else. Which is kind of hard to train because it depends on everyone else as well.

>>10377817
>How do you differ noobs and beginners?
noobs aren't interested in learning (especially on their own) they are just interested on being good. So at first while a beginner and a noob could have the same shitty level, the beginner will ask actually important questions, and try to look up materials on their own, or at least train at home every once in a while.

noobs on the other hand just want to be good without all the work, they come down to training, look at you with empty eyes while you show them what to do, they try to copy you, maybe even putting into it actual effort but without their higher brain functions getting involved, and also sometimes ask bullshit questions of "what is the best attack?" or "how can I get good?" and ignoring anything that isn't phrased like a buzzfeed article that is spoonfeeding you some bullshit.

>>10378345
>How do you differ noobs and beginners?
noobs aren't interested in learning (especially on their own) they are just interested on being good. So at first while a beginner and a noob could have the same shitty level, the beginner will ask actually important questions, and try to look up materials on their own, or at least train at home every once in a while.

noobs on the other hand just want to be good without all the work, they come down to training, look at you with empty eyes while you show them what to do, they try to copy you, maybe even putting into it actual effort but without their higher brain functions getting involved, and also sometimes ask bullshit questions of "what is the best attack?" or "how can I get good?" and ignoring anything that isn't phrased like a buzzfeed article that is spoonfeeding you some bullshit.

>>10362819
>>10362834
Thanks guys. I bought the sword and I cannot be more statisfied with it. Used the free time during quarantine to make a scabbard.

Should I add more details and decoration or finish it before it gets too much?

>>10380228

>>10380228
Scabbard looks great. I'd say finish it off before you add too much, maybe add something at the tip of it if you really want, but with this I think less is more

>>10378605
>and also sometimes ask bullshit questions of "what is the best attack?" or "how can I get good?"
aaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhhhh
(NAYRT but too real)

>hey Anon, I want to buy some leather armor, got any good recommendations?
Uh sure here's a few links that should get you in the right direction
>oh wow this is all way too expensive
It's leather what were you expecting
>i'll just buy some from Wish. Look this set is only $20
Please don't it will be shit
>jeez stop being elitist

Every fucking time

>>10382434
Wish is basically a gacha game where you pay $20 for a png

So anons, are your larps cancelled or just dealyed? Mine is starting back up in maybe a month.

>>10384773
most of it is delayed by a year which is a fancy way to say cancelled this year

>>10384773
What country you from? Everything here is pretty much done till Autumn at least

>>10385043
Northwestern-ish United States
Granted it could still change, but everyone is pretty optimistic.

>>10384773
Most either cancelled their may events, with one (the gathring) moving all their events on August

>>10384773
My monthly chamber larp is postponed indefinitely, although we're hosting TTRPG sessions in the same universe to keep the hype going. All my other larps are some flavour of cancelled.

>>10382434
>>10382440
HEY GUYS! WHATS GOING ON IN THIS THREA-
>people buying "leather" from Wish

>>10384773
Every LARP, museum event, reenactment, SCA event etc, is canceled for the year. More over, working at a state ran museum, I'm furloughed and on unemployment until we reopen, which is a visible shoulder shrug from the Governor at this point.

>>10385330
Ah yeah, makes sense.

Don't your LARP organizers think of postponing the LARPs nontheless out of a responsibility to take care of possible player demographics?

It's something that had been a topic for me as an organizer long before our governement shut everything down 'till after the Summer.

>>10382434
This is one of the things that i hate about this hobby. The moment you propose that someone shouldn't get cheap shit that looks like shit, and functions like shit. You get accused of being a "gatekeeper" by a horde of complete and utter idiots.

>>10385711
>people buying "leather" from Wish
Free cancer with every order.

>>10386090
Gatekeeper get

>>10386090

>Hey Anon, whatcha think of my kit?
It's alright. You aren't planning on wearing those jeans, right?
>I don't own any other pants. It'll be fine.
Okay. Are you sure though? I can teach you how to make some simple LARP appropriate pants, even have some spare fabric we can use so it won't cost you anything
>oh c'mon Anon, my kit is perfectly fine. Oh, look at this puffy winter coat that I'll use as my gambeson

Lord give me strength. I fucking hate the lack of kit minimum standards and people's unwillingness to put effort into things around here.

>>10386373
Careful, or you're gonna end up like Gropes and Hungarian.

>>10386454
what, someone with decent kit and standards?

>>10386523
hated

>>10386523
Well dressed, but constantly salty. There is nothing, and I mean nothing worse than someone who spends more time and money to look like shit than it would cost to do something good.

>>10386525
The hate sustains me.

Bong here, got a question: are there any 17th century LARPs here or in Europe? I don't mean reenactment stuff, ideally there would be rapier fencing and such but with a degree of safety and without reenactment's typical focus on just making a tableau.

>>10386636
I'm already salty about the people who spend over a grand on armour and wear it over a hoodie and track pants, just gotta work on being well dressed

>>10387547
>In Europe
I know there's like a semi-reenactment 17thC LARP in France I think. I have one of the orgs on FB so I can ask him for you

If you wanna go further, New Zealand had some rly cool Three Musketeers games I think

Shameless post: got some stuff for sale in the B/S/T thread >>10388454


>>10387547
>>10388425
Dude, I would kill for 17thC larp here in the US since I'm doing it for work again.

>>10387971
Welcome to hell.

>>10388466
>Dude, I would kill for 17thC larp here in the US since I'm doing it for work again.
Who better to start one than a professional? You can call it "Gropey and the Three Molesteers".

My gf ordered this sugarloaf helm for our anniversary, can't wait to have it.

>>10388540
Jokes aside, already have a not!18thC horror-fantasy one we started: "Lost tails and Dark Stories". We're "the elitist and inaccessible" game because we have a dress standard and low rule abstraction (no levels, no hit points, and real skill based puzzles).

We briefly flirted with having it be not!16/17thc, but armour proved to be bit of bear to deal with without getting into damage types, and our area is a huge 18thC historic area with lots of land and buildings we can use.

>>10388566
Does she hate you? Goddamn, I'm sorry.

>>10388692
>Does she hate you? Goddamn, I'm sorry.
Can you elaborate ? I'm not a scholar like you, just a medieval helmets and illuminations fan.

>>10388692
>We're "the elitist and inaccessible" game because we have a dress standard and low rule abstraction (no levels, no hit points, and real skill based puzzles).
Jej, can't tell you how idiotic this sounds to a eurofag. (This being elitist I mean)

Sounds cool though. I definitely feel wanting to use that kind of resources when they're available.

>>10388696
Noy Gropes but it's just a shitty Pakistani bucket made out of cheap metal that not based on anything real. If you paid more than $25 bucks you got scammed.

>>10388696
>Can you elaborate ?
That's the official petrol station novelty helmet of "deus vult" incels. The uniform of /his/ if you will.

>>10388696
Well, >>10388761 and >>10388898 got the gist of it. It's just a terrible, but if you want more detail, it's all about the lines: this is made like a tube with a cone on top, rather than actually having any shape and glancing surfaces. The dimensions are also insanely off, and the whole thing looks like a 3D model of a drawing made by a half blind, thumbless orphan who once saw "Kingdom of Heaven" through a dirty fishtank.

>>10388697
You have no idea. Require submission of costume and character before the event? That's elitist. Require them to actually block a shot rather than yell the word "party"? That discriminates against the physically unable. Have them solve a puzzle lock to "lockpick"? That discriminates against the mentally unable.

>>10388696

>>10388976
>You have no idea. Require submission of costume and character before the event? That's elitist. Require them to actually block a shot rather than yell the word "party"? That discriminates against the physically unable. Have them solve a puzzle lock to "lockpick"? That discriminates against the mentally unable.

>>10388994
Yup. Also, latex weapons will kill you and everyone you love.

>>10388692
>Costume standard
Could you post like the minimal costume requirement in your game? Like the most basic outfit that'll be acceptable?

>No hit points
Assuming there are fights at all, how do you know you die?

>>10389045
Bare minimum? Pic related.

*Poofy Ren fest pirate shirt
*Pajama pants rolled up to the knee (would look better to cut them right below the knee, and hand them at the very least)
*Knee high socks some sort, which could very easily be baseball or soccer socks
*Any nondescript shoe, that isn't obvious like a sneaker or something. Shown is a Oxford, and a moccasin. Both available at Walmart for under twenty bucks.
*Tricorn hat or other appropriate head cover. Easily found at party stores.

Princess Ham, pride of Smithfield is not a required part of the bare metal and costuming effort, but does go a long way.

>Assuming there are fights at all, how do you know you die?
Oh, there is plenty of violence, but just like real life, fighting is dangerous. It's pretty obvious when you get stabbed, shot or mailed by a monster. Anyone can stabilize and aid a fallen comrade, but if you get hit with an axe and your buddy's abandon you, you die. Fighting is never without risk.

Monster NPCs have weak points and an scripted hit points unknown to the players. A goblin goes down with a bayonet thrust like anyone else. A troll or bear? Thats a bit harder.

>>10389049
Huh. I gotta say that's lower than I thought - Not in a bad way, but like... That's far more reasonable than I imagined as costume standards that'll get you called elitist.


>Violence thing
So you basiaclly just react to what happened? Get stabbed at arm, stop using it; Get shot at torso, lay down and wait for your lads to aid etc? Like, first strike does the full effect?

>>10389055
>Huh. I gotta say that's lower than I thought - Not in a bad way, but like... That's far more reasonable than I imagined as costume standards that'll get you called elitist.
Yeah, welcome to American larp culture. We also have way better loaner gear. This is 50 times better than most.

>So you basiaclly just react to what happened? Get stabbed at arm, stop using it; Get shot at torso, lay down and wait for your lads to aid etc? Like, first strike does the full effect?
Get hit in the arm, arm is useless till aided. In the leg, you're limping. Body or head, you're down. No one around to aid you? You're dead.

>>10389063
Oh, and both legs means you're crawling.

We actually had a player play dead after getting ambushed, and crawled back to the merchant camp hub through the VA woods.

>>10389063
>Yeah, welcome to American larp culture.
Are American larpers deliberately doing it wrong or something? Everything you described sounds so shit that it seems like people have to be maintaining it on purpose, how did it get that bad? I'm a Swefag and here being an equipment sperg means like... getting mad that someone's wearing glasses because it's inauthentic, or because you suspect someone else's stew might contain a potato, or throwing a bitch fit because a road sign is visible from the extreme end of the play area. Obviously hyperpedantic stuff. Your "elitist" kit standard is legit lower than the kit requirements for noob larps here.

>>10389080
>Everything you described sounds so shit that it seems like people have to be maintaining it on purpose, how did it get that bad?
different culture, that's the short version of it. Basically how it came from DnD IN REAL LIFE when tabletops were pretty much, also how everything most be the lowest common denominator, how everyone puts his nose into other peopls business, etc

>>10389063
>Weclome to the American larp culture

Why are y'all like this? I'm asking seriously, this isn't a meme/silly burn

>>10388976
>ywn play a bard that can immediately defuse combat situations by yelling "party" at charging enemies

>>10389132
the question was asked millions of times and the answers are always very general. You can't really point at one specific thing and say "yeah, that's the reason". I mean you can, and some actually do, but that's just retarded. The most "specific" you get is that's what culture the players have there and propagate it. Several books can be written about the subject and even then we talk about a continent worth of larpers so there will be differences and exceptions and butthurt.

>>10389080
>Are American larpers deliberately doing it wrong or something?

Yes. Objectively so.

>>10389132
>Why are y'all like this? I'm asking seriously, this isn't a meme/silly burn

Hungarian >>10389082
has the gist of it. Lowest common denominator, trying to be hyper inclusive and accommodating to the point of losing the plot.

>>10389139
Autocorrect. Meant "parry", but I REALLY wouldn't be surprised if someone pulled this bullshit.

>>10389274
mandatory

>>10389049
>Princess Ham
Tell her I love her and she is a good kitty.

How do y’all feel about Larp Haven?

>>10389049
You fooled me using pajama pants in a color that isn't...whatever that is in >>10389312.
Tragic.

>>10389331
Done. She is unimpressed.

>>10389337
Plaid pajama pants are damn useful.

>>10389334
Several anons including me and Hungarian are all banned.

>>10389340
Ok, how did you get banned?

hi larpfags, it's been a while since I was last active but I wanted to pop in and say I love you guys for the fact that you're always around and ready to provide inspiration and tips on this board. always feels friendly in here.

I think I was last here posting last spring or so, before my first major boffer fighting event, which went great; I was invited to Drachenfest by an acquaintance this year but I don't think I'll be making it, since I still have no sensible kit and the virus situation is making me concerned both from a financial standpoint and in general. I'm hoping I'll make it next year, and get some awesome kit together by then, but I still have a problem in that I'm really anal about the re-enactment/historical accuracy aspect of kit, but also not proficient enough in sewing to trust myself to throw together a pattern that looks good enough, so I can never get shit actually together because perfectionism and doubting everything I try to do. maybe I'll finally dare to butcher the linen I bought way too long ago for at least some basic bitch tunic.

also, I think I've asked this before but battle skirts/dresses, yay or nay? obviously battle kilts have been a thing so I'm figuring hypothetical female fighters could have plausibly had a dress/skirt type of deal going on.

>>10389378
I had strong opinions. Mostly about the fact that gypsy as a fantasy race with bonuses to fortune telling and theif skills is A-OK, because they are not real and it's not racist... But if someone self identifies as an elf IRL, you have to respect their identy or it's racist.

>>10389491
Ok, couple of things: first, there's plenty of art of armored women fighting in skirts, etc etc, but it's almost entirely artistic license. Historically, women who were fighting would typically wear men's clothing because it is meant to work with armor. St. Joan of Arc, the duchessa Sforza, etc, all wore men's clothes to battle. They also just aren't practical. Same reason that long men's garments weren't as popular in battle either.

Secondly, kilts are stupid, and very rarely actually used in battle. In fact, the highland regiments throughout history, from the American Revolution onward, would ditch their kilts for trousers or breeches almost as soon as they left Scotland, because anything that is not open lograste rain like Scotland, leads to huge problems when you have your dick hanging exposed. In the Americas, and India, parasites and dense underbrush were the major issue. WWI saw them getting their dicks burnt with mustard gas. I'm not joking. I mention this because i know plenty of women who fence and such in dresses and gowns, but only in situations where they have logistic backing like tournament. In battlefield type situations, they always switch to pants.

That said, it's larp, do whatever if it works for you and doesn't stick out.

>>10389519
>gypsy as a fantasy race with bonuses to fortune telling and theif skills is A-OK, because they are not real and it's not racist... But if someone self identifies as an elf IRL, you have to respect their identy or it's racist.
HA HA HA HA HA HA

>>10389049
>>10389274
>>10389312
>>10389519
>>10389562
American larp is canceled.

Fuck.

>>10389491
>I was invited to Drachenfest by an acquaintance this year but I don't think I'll be making it
I don't think -anyone- will be going to Drachenfest this year, anon.

>also not proficient enough in sewing to trust myself to throw together a pattern that looks good enough, so I can never get shit actually together because perfectionism and doubting everything I try to do
I believe in you! Go practice and make something! It's absolutely worth getting over the hurdle. Even if you fuck up everything to an unuseable state, which you won't, the experience alone will have made it worth your while.

battle skirts/dresses, yay or nay?
Nay practical, yay doable. If it's fantasy there's absolutely nothing wrong with it, but since you care about historical accuracy it's probably better not to use a skirt.

>>10389491
>; I was invited to Drachenfest by an acquaintance this year but I don't think I'll be making it,
as anon said >>10389603 nobody will. It's not offical yet as the german region where it is held was slow as fuck and just a few days ago said what requirements are needed to hold any big event (big event in that region counts as more than 500 people) and even those requirements are kind of vague as fuck. Anyway 99,99% that Drachenfest won't be held this year

>also, I think I've asked this before but battle skirts/dresses, yay or nay?
battle skirts are cool and also manly as fuck too. Anyone who says otherwise is gay

>>10389519
>Mostly about the fact that gypsy as a fantasy race with bonuses to fortune telling and theif skills is A-OK
well, I mean I can only argue the fortune telling part, That's like saying all gypsies are musicians, but in reality it's just a subclass of them that are musicians. The thieving party is correct though.


>>10389378
Personally I first got banned in the early days because people were posting larp "meme" pictures, which were basically just VERY bad MS paint edits of random shitty pictures and it had no meaning outside of the friends of those who were on the picture.
When I say bad, think about websites before 2000 that are made by teenagers.
Here is an actual pic from that thread.

Anyway I got banned because I communicated my opinion that these pictures are sub-standard and when asked to show something that is better a posted one.

pick a name for my game world and a 2d shape for the map

>>10389632
Name it Wlad. As a shape, take Wales rotated 135 degrees.

>>10389519
thanks, that makes sense. I will point that I don't larp per se, the local events I go to are very much just the fighting part with very slight plot that people don't pay any mind to (it's basically only used to explain away changes in "army composition"), so the useability comments are really useful to me. the events atm are basically just a pile of battle scenarios, winner is called when a clear majority has been achieved (usually to the point of 0-15 people remaining from the opposing side), after which you only have a few minutes before a new scenario starts. we do have a group that uses kilts as part of their kit so I wonder what the heck they've done to theirs so that it doesn't suck (though I suppose we're not that far off from Scotland weather).

>>10389603
>>10389605
on Drachenfest - yeah, I kinda figured, but the website was still all "yeah we're toootally still planning to organise it guys" so I didn't want to assume either way. going to roleplay some historical dudes in a camp sounds like a very great way to transmit viruses

other than that, thanks a lot for the comments, I'll try to ride this new wave of inspiration to at least getting some shitty tunic done so I have more top options than the random black linen shirts I found in the back of my wardrobe

>>10389636
Your shitty tunic will unironically be at least on par with store-bought clothes and probably be better. Have fun!

>>10389636
well, if you need help in it you can find us here, or there is a discord server for Drachenfest with an english section, lot of helpful people there too

>>10389334
It has an unfair amount of pretty girls, good for easy likes on my memes to pat my fragile internet self-esteem and every time someone breathes towards the Drow DebateTM things get fucking hilarious.


My rotten soul aside, It's kind of a mix bag over there. There are some people who are actually good in their craft, but a lot of bad or unhelpful content as well. The American scene seems to dominate there and you know what that means.

>>10389636
heres a guide to producing a larp oufit on a tight budget:
http://tutorials.abbott.me.uk/costume/no-excuses

>>10389519
>I had strong opinions. Mostly about the fact that gypsy as a fantasy race with bonuses to fortune telling and theif skills is A-OK, because they are not real and it's not racist... But if someone self identifies as an elf IRL, you have to respect their identy or it's racist.
Yeah, that sounds like LARP haven.

>>10389603
>>10389636
As far as battle skirts go, I played a warrior priest at a weekly battle game for about a year, and I wore a floor length skirt and never had any problems moving in larp combat. I'd say as long as its vaguely historical/fantasy in design its fine

>>10389605
That's not a skirt. You have pants on.

>>10391542
Nope, at the very best I have a hose on, but you can't prove anything more than the "socks" part.
And anyway, war is no reason for pants

>>10389638
I'm certain it will be, just need to manage my own expectations really

>>10389639
oh interesting, I'll have to look into the Discord server. I've been trying to find resources/groups for historical dress and haven't been having all that much luck, so that would be a place to start.

>>10389852
cheers, I've seen that a while ago and I think it's a great beginner resource for someone who has never made garb before, but it doesn't satisfy my accuracy autism quite enough and I'm not afraid of sewing, so it misses the mark for me just a bit.

>>10391296
huh, that's good to know, thanks!

>>10392824
>oh interesting, I'll have to look into the Discord server. I've been trying to find resources/groups for historical dress and haven't been having all that much luck, so that would be a place to start.
a good start is the medieval tailors assistant

http://www.strony.toya.net.pl/~kuswir/MTA.pdf

Otherwise I have a shitton of patterns for mostly 16th century if you need help with that

I'm planning on making a bunch of warskirts for me and my mates to wear while monstering, but can't find any tutorials or patterns for doing it off a regular belt. Anyone got any tips beyond just riveting leather to the belt?

>>10393527
first of all: why?

>>10393547
Its on brief for the orcs of the setting, and hopefully will make us look a bit more like a cohesive unit and a bit less like the average nerd who's just rolled out of bed with shit kit. Materials wise its also fairly cheap other than bulk buying belts

>>10393552
my problem that it looks like shit most of the time even when done from decent materials, as long as you don't use some proper patterns but then it won't look orkish anymore. Also you just basically throw material at it and at one point call it a day. Basically a graveyard for materials that could be used better.

Anyway one tip that I have: don't rivet stuff to the leather. It's a quick but shit method. Riveting 99% of the times looks gay as fuck AND it has the downside effect of the materials riveted together will tear apart sooner than later as riveting fucks it up. Sewing is always a better option though more time consuming, but it will last if done proper

>>10393552
Isn't this image your solution? You get some scrap fur and leather you got leftover from other projects. Then you just sew 'em together after making sure they get cut for a bit.
Get some loops on them to just pull a belt through.

Then you have to weather them. Without good weathering you'll look like a dude in a tactikilt.

>>10393558
Thanks for the tip, I was thinking of riveting the heavier stuff but I'll probably see if I can sew it first now

>>10393563
Basically aye, was just wondering if anyone had any tips. For a semi-common piece of kit there's very little I can actually find on the internet on smart ways to make them

>>10393574
the trick is to use proper leather sewing, For example if you sew together two (not too thin) pieces of leather then the leather will come apart sooner than the sewing. Also you can basically sew it watertight

>>10393527
I suggest watching this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__WtUsxyOi8

All this dudes techniques are pretty good if you want to make an orc.

>>10393579
don't suppose you have a link to a good guide? I'm a brainlet and crap enough at regular sewing as it is

>>10392827
>http://www.strony.toya.net.pl/~kuswir/MTA.pdf
hey thanks a lot, I've heard about the book but I don't think I've come across a full copy. off to read for the evening

>>10393616
just look up leather sewing on youtube, there are tons of good videos. Although most will use specific tools, but you can manage with two curved strong needles, good thread a glove and optionally some pliers

>>10389045
>>10389049
>>10389055
>>10389080
>>10389082
>>10389132
Seen this yet?

Yep. And the people's responses were exactly what I expected.

>>10395970
I've even met the artist a few years ago. But yeah it's a good representation of how things work in a proper community.

>>10396035
What kind of responses were you expecting, then? Most responses I've seen were very sensible and down-to-earth.

>>10396143
Niels is a nice guy, did you go to CoM that you saw him outside of the Netherlands?

>>10396179
>Niels
wait shit, nevermind I'm a retard once again. it wasn't this guy I remembered. Neils is the Mythodea guy

>>10396171
People screeching about how minimum kit standards are gatekeeping, racist, etc

Complete noob here, only experience I have of LARP is going to the ren fest in jeans and a tshirt and watching Lindybeige
As a midwesternfag should I even get into LARP or is my time better spent on /k/ or something

>>10396335
depends.
Look up the larps around you and if you think you would enjoy what goes there then go for it and ignore us elitist dickheads. As long as you fun do it.

>>10396340
Well I mean I'm a perfectionist so if I get into LARP I'd want to actually learn how to sew and make period accurate shit
Seeing fat people in medieval kit also angers me

>>10396345
then USA as a whole is not a palce for you

>>10396347
Maybe I'll get into HEMA and then go abroad at some point
HEMA for quarterstaff and halberd, maybe spear even, cause swords are for viking wannabes who weigh more than a longship

>>10396349
swords aren't inherently worse but I admit it is the mainstream stuff so most retards will go for swords

>>10396345
For me it's less about seeing fat people in medieval kit and more seeing fat people in medieval kit that doesn't make sense or doesn't fit them. I can't take a 300+ lbs obese man who's supposed to be some great elven fighter seriously

>>10395970
Yup. Stole it from Hungarian off of 4chan.

>>10396275
That's primarily an American problem. Sure, it exists in Europe, but here, it's normalized.

>>10396335
>>10396345
>>10396386
>watching Lindybeige
God help you. One of the worst armchair historians on YouTube.

>As a midwesternfag should I even get into LARP or is my time better spent on /k/ or something

>Seeing fat people in medieval kit also angers me

>As a midwesternfag

I have some bad news for you about HEMA/SCA/LARP etc for you...

But seriously, you sound like you want an SCA group, not a fantasy larp. Medium+ levels of living history, a more realistic baton/stell martial focus rather than foam tag, etc.

>>10396335
>Lindybitch
>"Muh fatties"
>"I'm a perfectionist"
Neck yourself.

>>10396859
How bout you first, tranny

>>10396878
You're in the wrong place for that /pol/ shit, kiddo.

>>10396275
Stop lying to gain internet points on 4chan. Responses were nothing like that.

>>10397120
Why would I lie though?
Anyways on LARP Haven that's what it was like, but looks like it got deleted.

>Local LARP is running for 6 years
>Honestly not too great, attend every event anyway to swing foamsticks and drink and find some good-roleplay
>This time they pulled off a Hard Reset
>Setting is way cooler now and right up my alley, friends I havn't seen in years are planning to go as well
>My Uni decides to have a test like right after the LARP weekend

Adult life is pain, bois. I wanna fight, roleplay and talk to cute girls in fantasy outfits again.

>>10397280
I'm sorry Anon. I know that feeling.
At least your LARP is doing a reset, I wish mine would, the lore is absolutely retarded.

>>10397342
<3 Thanks anon. Feel free to tell me about their dumb lore to vent and so we could laugh at it together

>>10397120
Thats how its always been on Larphaven. You must be new.

>>10331789
Used to be good, they changed their foam recipe a few years back and are now utter trash.
Good if you will only use them once or twice a year though, but at that point you may as well go latex instead.

>>10397420
Nah, I was just looking at where the guy himself actually posted it

>>10397554
I am an idiot and quoted the wrong post. It was meant to go here >>10397375.

>>10397420
Got any sources on that?

Right. Plague is cancelled, time to go out again.

>>10398270
Nice shield. How'd long it take to paint that border?

>>10398284
About a day to paint it all. I made a paper model for the border and just applied it many many times.

>>10398270
>Plague is cancelled
yep. It was already announced that our government single handedly defeated the virus.
You are welcome.

>>10398270
>Plague is cancelled
yep. It was already announced that our government single handedly defeated the virus.
You are welcome.

Anyone got experience with feathers? I want to make a cape similar to pic related, but I don't know wether it'll survive an average larp day or not.

>>10398477
well, the feathers itself will probably survive, the attachment method will be tricky though.
Transportation and bad weather would be a bigger problem probably than the larp itself.
Also you will lose some that's a granted, prepare for it beforehand

>>10398480
>transportation
I can see that
>bad weather
Just strong winds, or also rain?

Losing some is a given, I'm currently pondering if I should use many small feathers or fewer big ones.

>>10398486
humidity and rain. Well, technically it won't fuck up the feathers permanently but it would be a lot of work to ruffle them back again in proper form and shape

>>10398486
>I'm currently pondering if I should use many small feathers or fewer big ones
Fewer big ones. Save yourself some headache during crafting and maintenance.

>>10398270
>Plague is canceled
We'll remember you fondly. Nice shield. Is that an SCA shield, or just an especially good larp shield?

>>10398415
Your president too, eh?

>>10398477
flatly put, no. It's purely decorative, and will not hold up. If you want to save yourself some energy, and have a tougher product that can actually wear into combat, you can actually buy faux feather fabric now at most fabric and Craft stores these days, because it's become popular for cosplay usage. They even have several different textures and colors. You might want something rattier looking such as pic related (cont)

>>10398477
>>10398592
... Or smaller, more uniform pile like pic related. I'm actually purchasing something to make a cape to go over my harness for fancy tournaments.

>>10398477
I've got experience with making a peacock feather giornea. I can tell you that if you want to wear it for more than single scenes you're going to lose some feathers. It works though, mind you. But be prepared to do a decent amount of work on it after every day.

There's tons of good tutorials online on how to do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2PPPXyxvZY

>>10397604
Nothing other than anecdotal evidence because the frenchies are awful at actually responding to emails.
had 20 odd spear heads from different groups at the local game start crumbling after 6 months and the swords are barely lasting a year before losing their tips or seperating from the core

>>10398805
what was the sword length? because in my experience the longer the calimacil sword the sooner you loose the tip.

Also if you take care of it it's not that bad, they easily survive 2 years of heavy use. But most people thinks that just because it's calimacil they can abuse the weapon as much as they want.

>>10398805
My club's been buying two swords a year for many years now, and I haven't noticed a change in quality in the new ones. To be perfectly honest, it sounds like your game just fights too rough with them.

>>10398827
The majority of different sword models, this is a game that goes through hundreds of cali weapons per year

>>10399012
you knwo through years people were telling me that calimacil weapons are too hard or dense, that they hit too hard compared to other larp weapons and that it gets damaged it easily. Then after years of using dozens of my own calimacil weapons I never experienced nor anyone else I actually know here with their own calimacil weapons. So we came to the conclusion that either calimacil purposefully sells different quality weapons to different parts of the world, or the problem lies in the users.

I think this is that kind of thing again.

>>10398594
I have a bodice made out of this and it's worth the money.

>>10398491
>>10398509
Alright, thanks for the advice

>>10398592
>>10398594
>>10398804
Ah dang it, saw this a bit too late. I suppose it won't suit my needs then.
I want to make a camo-ish cloak as part of my orc kit and use something different from the usual torn clothes/ragged leather candidates.

>>10397371
>this vast empire went from good to bad overnight at the drop of a hat after one of their leaders breaks away, making them feel betrayed
>no corruption or anything, everyone just decided to immediately start human sacrifice, illegal magic, etc.
>"No Anon, there's no holdouts or people that think differently, everyone in this faction is %100 evil, the players can kill anyone in this faction, even civilians with no moral ambiguity"
"Don't you think that's a lil bit... Dumb?"
>"What are you, a nazi?"

Free me from being in the middle of nowhere with only one larp option, I beg you.
At least the new armor system makes it so metal is worth more than foam.

Who's interested in another contest? Still figuring details.

>>10401611
Where are you?

>>10401616
Northwest-ish US
Would rather not be too specific.
Nearest larp is at least 4 hours away. Not terrible, but not something I wanna drive too often

>>10401625
Start your own. Seriously.

>>10389334
Shit server. Got banned for saying "Research? What do larpers even have to research". A genuine question mind you. I managed to start a shitstorm where they personally attacked me and called me a gatekeeper. Among other things.

That actually brings to another question. Why are so many LARP discords absolute shit? Specially groups such as LARP Haven or Larp Compendium.
I literally got banned from Larp Compendium because i posted my reenactment weapons and tools and the adult baby admin got butthurt about it.

>>10402080
Oh shit, i mixed up LARP haven and the LARP discord group. Oh well. Anyway, LARP haven is also a shit group.

>>10402080
most larp discord servers are shit because it's started by people who are more interested in being FAMOUS (tm) than actually care for the hobby.
There are a few exceptions here and there but that is my general feeling and experience.

>>10402093
Seems so. Its one of the reasons why i prefer reenactment servers, less idiots and people who chase clout.
LARP compendium is honestly one of the worst LARP discords i've ever been in. The founder is some twink who thinks that he and his kit is somehow exceptionally good, and he seems to think that being the owner of a discord server makes him a god.

>>10402096
>and he seems to think that being the owner of a discord server makes him a god.
it's literally just a few mouse clicks. No idea why would anyone think its a big deal

>>10402080
>Why are so many LARP discords absolute shit?
Larp discords are only shit if the people there have nothing in common beyond being larpers. Larp discords for specific larps tend to be at least mediocre, in my experience.

>>10399035


Not unlikely. My biggest pain is the BEIER arrow heads. Those used to be excellent, tough as nuts and safe to use with a 50 pound bow. I still got one from the old batch that is 6+ years old. Aaand then they replaced it with a much worse product and increased the prices too.

>>10398592

Well its a larp shield, plywood, garden hose for the rim and canvas. Might be decent for SCA too. Plywood is fairly thick - 8mm i think?

>>10402080
Most LARP Discords are hot garbage because not only are they filled with random people who just LARP and do wholly different things within that niche. Even worse: They're usually overflowing with random kids who "want to start LARPing, but can't ):::" who will shit everything up.

Also
>He doesn't research his LARP kits
If you think there are no historical LARPs then you can take your boat back to the US.

>>10402098
UNLIMITED. POWER.

>>10402690
>If you think there are no historical LARPs then you can take your boat back to the US.

he is right though on the account that """research""" alone won't make your kit better. Especially the kind of half assed """research""" I see here and there.
There is this weird idea that if you pretend your kit is "historical" (and I use the term REALLY loose here) then it's automatically good even if it's put together like shit. I would take any day a decent fantasy kit than a half assed "historical" one

>>10402695
Ofcourse research alone won't make the kit better. But espescially for historical LARPs it's a base from which you work. If the LARP requires me to be a French trouvere in 1226 and I don't even know any songs, a vague idea of the thematics and it's origins. And even worse, not a clue what to wear so I just make potato bag and call it historical. Then it's gone.

Research doesn't make a good kit, but it's a base for fitting within the leitmotiv of the LARP.

>>10402700
obviously and I agree with you but take into account that some people call it research if they read a few facebook/twitter posts that may or may not in the same subject, and THEN they start preaching about how important it is and use the word authentic in every second sentence.
In short: research, medieval, authentic and a lot of similar stuff became buzzwords

>>10402705

Indeed. There is research.... and "research".

>>10351996
OP here, thank you for the info! You cam’t imagine how happy I was to come back and find this here.

Time for some fresh cringe.

And no it's not a joke.

>>10404728
Complete with dickbat

>>10404730
WIDE LOAD

>>10404728
>>10404730
>>10404732

I presume it was either home made or expensive or both

>>10404984
I think it was an armor commission but the person who commissioned it lost a bunch of weight while it was being made so it just doesn't fit him anymore.

>>10405482
guy must have lost 100 kg and also shrink by 20-30 cm
Also the guy who made it was probably drunk the whole time and it was his first time making armor

>>10405482
I'm with Hungarian. I don't care how fat he was, but that is some shitty armour design.

>>10404728
>>10404730
>>10404732
Good LARD, what is this?

>>10401616
Hey, I made a sheath for a knife like that.

>>10406076
Two, actually.

>>10406076
>>10406078
Why would you use snap rivets?

>>10406132
The double cap rivets? Over waxed thread, it's just a preference. I hate doing stitching and lacing on my projects. The opossum would've been better threaded, but I had cut and punched the holes for a second sheath after I had done the blue one, so it wasn't something I could change.

>>10406076
>>10406078
>>10406171
Interesting, but I agree with >>10406132 that the chunk jiffy rivets look a little jarring. Very modern to my eyes, but I like simple, historic lines myself.

I'm putting together a little adventure kit for another possible /larpthread/ contest which I have still not yet decided on. The knife is hardened with a decent carbon content to be striker, and I'm making a small purse with some flint, tow and, and charcloth. Maybe a few more goodies.

>>10406076
>All that work to fuck it up with big fugly studs
Ya blew it

>>10406181
>I'm putting together a little adventure kit for another possible /larpthread/ contest
Basiertes Klaun

>>10331775
New thread:
>>10407028