/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10261093
Stupid question threads should be renamed "spoonfeed me things I can easily google but I won't" because holy shit

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+buy+lolita+from+japanese+auction+sites

there is SO much info online about this, if you can't be bothered to do a simple search, some research on SS reviews, or even check the cgl archive of the many "what's the best SS/which one do you use" threads that appear every once in a while (if your excuse is "b-but I want personal opinions anon"), you don't deserve those dresses.

>>10261093
What are those summer jokes? Like 'summer needs to end' And summerfags

>>10261093
Literally go to yahoo auctions and do what it says on the website, holy shit

>>10261093
stupid question,
I checked the general, and google and youtube.
But i wanted to know about cgl's con carry guide,
I'm not talking about stuff you put in hotel.
I mean stuff you carry with you.

How many bags do you use, what size bags?
How many electronics, what types?
How much different hygiene, first aid, and related stuff?
How many snacks?
How do you deal with con security checking your stuff?
Do i need to worry about having spray mace for protection?
Or any spray like deodorant spray that might be flammable?
Or small travel size LIQUID like mouth wash?

What other stuff?

Stop replying to bait everyone
>>10256834

>>10261448
It's a joke from 2014 that a few posters simply can't let go. It implies that kids post here on their summer break, but moot himself (when he was still here) said there is no difference between the amount of posters in summer compared to winter.

Where can I find a tall friendly underdress for lolita?

What is your opinion of men?

Low estimates indicate a significant portion of men are sexually aroused by female children (<12 years old)
>26.25% [a]
>12-32% [a]
>21%-22% of males
>25% [c]

High estimates indicate the vast majority of men are sexually aroused by female children (<12 years old)
>58% [d]
>70% [e]
>89% [f]
>88.7% [a]

a. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0005789405800395
b. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1020699013309
c. https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1996-14627-001
d. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/17746172_The_structure_of_erotic_preference_in_the_nondeviant_male
e. https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1975-21378-001
f. https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(11)61074-4/abstract

>>10261482
“Summer” predates 2014. I remember it as far back as 2010, and it isn’t just a few people because it’s spread across the entire site.

Ok, so I'm guessing sweet j-fash and maybe even sweet lolitas do know about specific panties, tops, bras, and hair decoration like hair gums and stuff like that. I'm interested in that, for my gf, anyone can give me directions or examples?

>>10265733
>for my gf

L E A V E

>>10265733
post body. we can't tell you what would be good for you to wear for your gf unless we know what we're working with.

>>10265736
>post body. we can't tell you what would be good for you to wear for your gf
lmfao, comedy gold, implying I'm a lesbian or even worse, a sissy, nah, I just want to dress my gf like this, she is very short and slim, I just want the designs not the size, I guess

>>10265733
nah senpai, we aren't concerned with that shit

>>10265743
>having a penis
>in 2019

>>10265743
>implying cute frilly panties don't look good on anyone attractive regardless
post body or gtfo

Swimming in bait posts.

>>10265733
dear god this is so obviously the same person that's been reeeeeing over all the sweet lolita "thots" in the COF threads.
run out of spank material with those threads dying, you fucking wanker?

>>10265771
hey, many that didn't make me reee though

Are there any good online stores to buy sailor uniforms and seifuku from other than bodyline and AliExpress? I want to see what other school uniforms are out there but the reliable stores are hard to find

>>10265733
>>10265743
Is your girlfriend a child? If not, why do you want to dress her like a child, instead of her dressing herself?

>>10265803
His gf doesn't exist
he is too ashamed to admit he wants to wear cinnamoroll panties

Does anyone have any advice for a somewhat lonelita who wants to join a com but doesn't have facebook/social media?

I have two close friends I catch up with but it would be nice to branch out and meet up with some new people every now and then - especially as both of my friends wear sweet and I wear classic.

>>10265802
Do you really wanna know? Does it really matter? Ok here I go you stupid derrailing piece of shit. My gf is mentally 100% a child, but technically an adult. By litle. I'm into these kind of panties, mostly because that's what "good girls" wear, and that means girls that aren't fully initiated into sexuality, and that's what I consumed as cumdumpsters for the best years in 4chins. They also used a hairbrush instead of a dildo because they didn't have a dildo, since you wanna know. Allegedly they were 18+, but in reality, who fucking knows. They came to us willingly and fully knowing what was in store for them.

Happy now, faggot?

>>10265999
i think you both need therapy, not children's panties

>>10266002
thanks for helping me wiht my original question

>>10265994
Make a throwaway facebook account. I would imagine your local comm probably has a fb group so join that. Once you've attended meets, made some friends there etc. you can probably ditch using the account if it makes you uncomfortable. Both comms I've been in events are all organised through fb so you'd have a hard time bypassing that completely if you don't have friends that can keep you in the loop.

>>10266006
Thanks for the advice!
I know my local com has a Facebook page, one of my friends is part of it, though she never really uses it (honestly I can't blame her).
However I'm not sure how well a throwaway would work as it is a closed group and friend mentioned that they screen applicants (asking q's about the fashion, nothing too difficult) and only really accept established accounts (understandably).
But yeah, I could try and see if they'll accept the throwaway?

ageplay ruins yet another thread rip

>>10266012
If your friend is already in the group, I'm sure the mods would be okay with her vouching for you, especially if you send them a picture or two of you and your friend in lolita together.

>>10265999
>. My gf is mentally 100% a child, but technically an adult

It is actually 100% illegal to fuck the mentally handicapped, so congrats on admitting to your crime

>>10266065

>>10266012
My comm has organized a private Twitter account to post events. Maybe you could convince your comm to do that? We're all sick of fb.

How warm are IW's coats? What brand makes the best quality and warmest winter coats?

Sorry for the spoonfeed request but what sort of keywords should I look for when basically looking for clothes that could fit into the Handmaid's Tale aesthetic? I'm mostly looking for muted colors, simple designs, a "natural" feel to them. Doesn't have to be J-fashion, I'd just like to pad out my everyday wardrobe.

>>10266134
Handmaid's pulls from religious/modest wear. Try terms that church-goers might use.
Modest, minimalist, simple, coverage.
South Korean and Japanese normie-wear usually follows the minimalist/structured style. Try Uniqlo.

>>10266134
Check out sondeflor

are there scans of this mbook online?

>>10261464
I usually carry a backpack, and I am a cosplayer.

I keep a little daiso clear zipper pouch in my bag with whatever makeup I need to touch up for my cosplays.
A phone charger or two (because my friend and I share a bag). My camera if it will fit the current bag, but it has its own and usually goes in that if I'm out taking photos (It's a DSLR).
Usually some kind of snack bar for if we're stuck in a line, but I have also packed a full on bento or two for both of us if it's a con known to have bad food options. Don't even get me started on sneaking contraband food into cons that don't allow it.
If food is not allowed, I carry an item that has deceptive space inside (a plushie, a bag with a hidden compartment), whatever I can shove food into, I take into account FAR before we leave the house, and incorporate it into what I'm wearing/carrying for the day. I've hidden food in merchandise boxes before, too (like a figurine). No one checks.
No one is going to assault you. In 20 years of congoing, I have never had this happen. Ever.
If you're talking about taking those kinds of containers with you to travel, cons don't care, and airports each have their own guides. I've straight up carried a can of hairspray around the con in my bag for wig emergencies.

Also carry:
A pencil case full of feminine products if needed.
My phone case is my wallet.
I have a small pouch I put artist's business cards in in case I can't afford the merchandise and so I won't lose it/it disappears forever in my bag.
Safety pins, bobby pins.

>>10266064
I might see how that goes, from what I understand they're a pretty small but friendly group.
If not, then throwaway account it is!

>>10266069
Might be something worth looking into later, after joining/becoming established in my local com. I know a lot of people who either don't have Facebook or who have it but never log in just because it's such a hassle.

>>10266134
not sure on keywords but maybe look at I do declare and goatspell.

I think there's a lot of gothic brands (like, goth-goth, not goth lolita) that do styles like this, if you're fine with only white/cream/black

>>10265802
Conomi

>>10266134
If possible, hit your local thrift stores anon. I dress in a really similar simple, modest kind of vintage inspired style outside of lolita too and most of my wardrobe is thrifted.
there was lots of victorian and 40's inspiration in designs from the 70's and 80's, especially look for brands like Gunne Sax and Laura Ashley. A lot of their stuff is horrifying lacemonster barf florals, but the cut of their designs are beautiful, they use high quality natural fabrics like cotton and wool, and there are lots of solids out there too. I've got some really cute plain pieces and some with lovely tiny battenburg lace trims.

Other than those brands, just look for simple blouses in vintage cuts and below the knee skirts/dresses, especially pleated ones, and make sure you read the tags to check for real cotton, silk, and wool. Polyester really kills the look and its uncomfortable imo. Simple real leather shoes and a matching belt will go well with everything too. It's also very easy to dye natural fabrics if you find something nice in a color you don't like.

I feel pretty dumb about this but couldnt find out through Google, how does a lottery reservation work? I want a pouchette from btssb.

Is it something where I buy it, pray I get it and if I dont, do I get money back or do they have you pay after you get the item?

>>10266012
>>10266316

Most groups are pretty understanding if you explain that you had to make a new account for [reason] (work-related reasons are usually understandable). You can offer to link them to your other non-FB SN, or they might ask for a photo of yourself as proof you're not a creeper, or you might mention your friend's name as your referral (ask permission from your friend before you namedrop her though).

I'd keep the FB account rather than throw it away, though. Some groups are locked so you'd need to be signed in to view events, and girls tend to tag each other on FB, so that's a nice way to get meetup photos. There's probably a way to configure FB so it only sends you email when something in the group pops up (if you don't check the email settings usually it's set to just email you dumb shit trying to get you to sign in all the time).

Where can I get "plus size" (by asian standards) bloomers?

Can I get in trouble for flat out ignoring a buyer's messages on LM? A buyer that makes ridiculously low ball offers.

>>10266420
if they have bought nothing from you, then you don't have to answer to them.
it would be polite to tell them that their offer is too low, but you've no obligation to do so.

>>10266374
maxicimam

Why do people post photos mirrored like pic related? It's not even a different pose or angle to show more details, they just flipped the original. Is it an Instagram thing or some other trend I'm missing?

>>10266442
Square format works better with instagram

Does anyone know if this beret has ever been released with silver embroidery?

What is this kind of hat called or how do I find it in online shops?
I want an easy costume for Halloween because I have no time to make anything.

>>10266474
Try "Musketeer hat"

>>10266490
That's it! Thanks so much kind anon!

>>10266372
It's a good idea in theory. But with the amount of data mining FB does on you, I wouldn't recommend it for anon.

>>10266012
see if your friend can send you an invite to the group. sometimes that helps you bypass the annoying questions of rules that 1 in 10 people tend to break

i used to have a cute cardigan with little flecks of multi color yarn or neps according to google but it disappeared. im looking all over taobao but i cant find something like it. is there even a word for fleck in chinese so i can find a cardigan

why are guy anime costumes so shit and girls have a crazy amount of cute shit. i want to dress like a girl but i hate the way girls clothes are cut

>>10266470
I'd buy it SO FAST
Why do they always use gold embroidery in the first place?

What's the reply bump limit on /cgl/?

>>10266660
300

What are the odds AP will rerelease Melty Berry Princess? (Specifically the OP or maybe even a new shirring JSK or something?) I noticed recently the OP actually fits my bust and I'm a huge sucker for all strawberry prints.

Where can i get plus size pink overalls? I’m looking everywhere on taobao and using the cgl dictionary rip

>>10266993
Try Aliexpress, "plus size pink overalls" has quite a few results. Don't forget to check the reviews and look if there are customer pictures.

>>10266686
No it’s not. 310 is the correct number.

>>10267009
>delivers oct 24
fuck that shit. im just going to get a very light blue pair on taobao, bleach, and dye it pink at this point.

>>10267027
Can't you get a white pair on Amazon or in a local store? It would take the bleaching out of the equation

>>10266979
This dress belongs to Textile Award as well, but idk if it makes sense to wait for rerelease. I’m looking forward for some things from there myself, but the chance of rerelease is pretty weak.

>>10267046
What is Textile Award? I never saw anything indicating this dress was a collaboration type piece.

>>10267027
If you live in the US or Canada anon there are etsy shops that will sell any size overalls dyed any color. $60USD is usually what they charge and it's often secondhand from good quality brands so not fast fashion quality plus quicker shipping. If you live somewhere else idk how quick they'd ship to you since most sellers I have seen do this are North America based.

>>10267046
I have no choice but to wait; it isn't listed secondhand anywhere. I was just hoping a rerelease may happen soon.

>>10267093
>What is Textile Award? I never saw anything indicating this dress was a collaboration type piece.
AP did a poll during Museum event last year. They've asked people what prints they would like to be back and some of them got actually rereleased. It's not like we know for sure they're going to keep on releasing those, but one may hope.

>>10266589
What kind of outfits are you looking for? Maybe watch some anime with bishounen characters, they often have cute fashion too.

>>10261093
Here's a stupid question:
How do I get a she-weeb to hook up with me? What kind of man are you people attracted to?
I just saw a really cute weeb cosplayer girl (not instagram hot, just hot in that nerdy, weird girl way) on tinder and I want to make her mine.
Any advice?

>>10267145
Become Daisuke Niwa

Can you order furniture from Japan?

>>10267132

Thanks for explaining! I got the Honey Cake rerelease (can't wait for January senpai) and if they do Melty Berry Princess, and Cream Cookie Collection as MTO I'll be in heaven.

>>10267145

If you have to force yourself to act a certain way then she isn't attracted to you, she's attracted to the person you're pretending to be and it isn't the best way to find a partner.

>>10267132
FUCK I wish they'd rerelease loyal rosette

>>10267164
cute choise, anon! fingers crossed

>>10267164
excellent choice, the ancients smile upon you

Dumbass question, but can anyone recommend some cute huge platform boot brands? I really like this kind of style but I heard this brand sucks.

>>10267173
TUK?

>>10267175
>>10267173
TUK sucks. I prefer demonia for sure. they are comfier and last way longer than TUK. demonias aren't terrible. I have a bunch and all of my platform boots from them are still alive and kicking after heavy wear for a few years.

>>10267173
Maybe try Jeremy Campbell. I can't speak for the quality though, but I have been eyeing up some shoes from them. They are quite pricey though.

>>10267175
>>10267183
>>10267193
Thank you all!!!

>>10267145
We like good looking men, just like all other women.

>>10267289
Shut the fuck up you rping incel stop trying to start shit

>>10267293
Being honest is not "trying to start shit." Sorry that you're ugly and can't handle the truth.

>>10267173
The best shoes are New Rock but they are $$$. They last forever and are comfier than the other platforms though. Also they are so heavy you could probably legitimately kill someone.

>>10267162
they just had a CCC MTO...

>>10267042
amazon jp wont have it in any size bigger than 30cm waists and hips probably
>>10267093
I'd rather not spend $60 on it. it was going to be for a Halloween cosplay (Rei) but I changed my mind

Can anyone tell me the origin of this jsk? The only place I've ever seen it is my-lolita-dress where it's labeled as a replica

>>10267289
Every crush I've had was kind of ugly though, even my idol crush

con is in a month, any weight loss lifehacks that can be done to get myself slimmer?

Super stupid and obvious question, but how do you think is there gonna be blood bath over this?

>>10267397
There's no trick to it, just avoid sodas and sugary/fat snacks, exercise, reduce portion sizes within reason

>>10267397
Cut out fried food, try to get your protein steamed or grilled. Try to never have a super empty stomach and eat smaller main meals with small (healthy) snacks in between. Look up exercise routines specifically targeting the parts of the body you want to lose fat from - stuff like general cardio doesn't help in my experience.
Ganbatte anon!

>>10267419
General cardio actually does burn calories and can make a difference if you do enough. Caloric deficits are most important usually. Counting calories is the easiest way. You can literally eat a diet of pure ice cream, never exercise, and lose weight if you reduce your calorie intake enough. (Source: when working in Japan I didn't have a gym available but lost weight when eating rice bowls and ice cream daily; it's all about portion control).

The point on lots of small meals can help some people but it is actually good for your metabolism/weight loss to not necessarily fast but allow yourself to actually feel hungry before eating meals and have meals at specific routine times if possible. Waiting until you are truly hungry to eat allows certain chemicals or processes to start building up in your body that prepare for digestion/burn calories from stored fat, etc.

Toning can help a skinny fat person look slimmer or better figure wise but you can't really target fat in specific areas, only tone or build muscle and even that can be complicated and limited.

An easy way to cheat on wanting to feel full but keeping calories restricted is just eating filling low calorie items like raw celery, carrots, apples, and other fruits and veggies as snacks. "Cut out junk food" suggestions don't work if the person already eats junk food. Really it's "cut out some calories"

>>10267434
*if the person doesn't already eat junk food

>>10267318

Wait holy shit when?!?! I am supposed to get AP emails and I have been checking CGL regularly for a while. Was this before May or July of this year?

Can anyone identify these dresses?

>>10267436
It was early this year or last I think. I bought it in pink on the US AP website

>>10267442
Why? They're fug

how do i wash faux fur? got a fur scarf in the mail and the seller didn't disclose staining like... all over it. spot cleaning?

>>10267359
Good for you. I'd never touch a guy who was less than an 8 at least, and I shouldn't have to just because I like nerdy shit.

What are some books to get if I want to get started with sewing?

>>10267769
Readers digest complete guide to sewing is essential if you don't already have it.

How likely are people on lacemarket to think I'm a scammer if I don't have any feedback? Been thinking of selling some stuff but I've only bought something there once and the seller didn't leave me any feedback.

>>10267781
Why didn’t the seller leave you feedback?

>>10267729
Hand wash and hang dry. Never put it in the dryer. I'm not sure on detergent, I've washed cosplay fur items with dish soap though, and it was fine.

Does anyone have pictures of MeLikesTea's Casual Cupcake petti under a skirt or dress? That's the one I'm looking at, but it's the only one of hers with no underskirt picture.

Alternatively, recommendations for cupcake pettis with a mild/casual level of poof?

>>10267748
Maybe you're not a guy but most women don't go around ranking dudes out of 10 and care about more than looks. You sound like a fucking incel larping as a real woman.

>>10266372
>>10266576

Lonelita here! After mulling it over I think I'm less open to the idea of a throwaway for personal and professional reasons (the data mining doesn't exactly fill me with confidence either desu), but thank you for the well thought out advice. I'll definitely keep it in mind in case I ever decide to make a throwaway in the future.

Spoke to friend again the other day. There's a meet up coming up soon and she offered to ask the group about it for me (and my other lonelita friend), even though she would not be able to attend herself. I wouldn't go to any meetup without her there and without having the group know about attendance (I'm a little shy and don't want to be even more impolite, especially if I'm not part of the com). I don't really want to offend anyone by just 'rocking up' with friend.

Friend sent me a screenshot of the response she got, one member seems to be okay with me tagging along but another would like me to join the community first which is understandable. I don't know which one the mod is, judging by the response I'm guessing the second one?

How much of a social sin do you think it would be if I did go along with friend to a casual meet up sometime in the future?

are there any chinese sites similar to mercari, fril or otamart? i mean second-hand sellers, not taobao or tmall

>>10267340

The original is by Rosa Bianca, an indie lolita brand. It's not an exclusive print though, the fabric is available as quilting fabric (I think the print was designed by Harajuku Dolls, iirc). It's really old, like from 6? years ago? So it's really hard to find as it's an indie brand and sold out long ago. If someone else can remember what year it came out you might be able to dig through Rosa Bianca's old jugem.jp to find the announcement of the original release.

The reason the replica is still around is because it's apparently really bad -- it's a fabric that you can easily buy from fabric stores, but the replicamakers for some reason opted to go ahead and replicate the fabric cheaper, but printed the border print too high for some reason, plus some anons say it's also shiny and the contrast apparently got fucked up along the way.

>>10267769

If you want to make clothes I'd also recommend a pattern-drafting book.

i found a pic of this old fanplusfriend dress from 2006 and i love the design but the quality looks basically non-existant. i feel like this is probably a rip off of a moitie dress because they made a lot of replicas around that time. anyone know what the original is?

>>10267860
I think response 2 is from someone who has had to field some ita and sissy shit in their day and is just being conservative. Maybe have your friend send in a sample coord pic and a small bio directly to them so they can relax a little.

>>10267890
Any in particular? An author to look for? A series to collect?

>>10267924
Nayrt but lots of people like the otome no sewing books for lolita patterns. They are all in Japanese as far as I'm aware but they offer patterns for lolita items and accessories and some even have pattern designs shared from bigger brands I think? They aren't really pattern drafting books but Japanese pattern books are cool in that they require a lot of pattern drafting elements and technique to get the pattern properly traced from the book.

Your local community college may also have classes if you learn well in a classroom setting.

>>10267891
Moitie Beads Print from 2003.

>>10267822
>most women
Unattractive women don't have much of a choice, sure. But any above average woman absolutely does. Sorry you're fat and/or ugly.

>>10267886
xianyu

>>10268026
Rating people with literal numbers is extremely autistic. I don't need to worry about whether my husband is a 8.8567 out of ten because I just know he's handsome and tall and that's good enough for me.

How do I find a sailor moon costume that'll fit me if I'm a reasonably fit man? t-shirt size is L and pant waist size is 30-32 if that helps

>>10268035
This. Ranking is a male thing.

This is gross but do any other lolitas have experience quitting smoking? I'm sick of being dressed up and jonesing for a cigarette during the meet and not being able to smoke in brand. I also don't smoke inside which is frustrating during the winter. I've tried vaping and it doesn't really set off the same feeling in my brain that smoking a cigarette does. Allergic to the adhesive in the patches. Gum is gross. Looking for tips on cold turkey quitting.

>>10268054
Try to replace with other oral habits like snacking on popcorn (I agree gum is gross). That's the best I've got, sorry. Good luck!

Third-worlder here. I already know everything about japanese, chinese, etc proxy services but I have actually no idea if US proxy services are a thing.
There are some things from US-only stores that I want to buy, and I'm not sure if the services I've encountered (like shipito) actually work or not.
Has anybody ever used US-proxies? I know it's an absolutely specific question considering almost everyone is american so I doubt I'll get an answer.
No I don't have friends, specially friends or family in the US that could get the stuff for me by the way

>>10268058
They exist, don't know any specific names but I've sold to 2 buyers in Europe and Asia who use them.

>>10268043
Take your measurements and compare with the measurements in the listings. Pay attention to shoulder width, it's the one most likely to be a problem. When in doubt, take the larger size, it's much easier to take in a garment than it is to enlarge it. Sailor Moon is such a popular costume that there will be dozens of places selling them, so go around and compare.

>>10268058
They are a thing. My country (NZ) has a forwarding service in the US that’s run through our postal service, so I’ve always used that. Check and see if your country has something similar, otherwise I’m pretty sure shipitto is legit from what I’ve heard. Never used them though.

is it safe to buy contact lenses from reputable sellers on taobao? i’d rather not become blind but i thought it would be better than ali, since taobao is more trusted i think.

>>10268026
Sorry you're a male larper and/or autistic.

>>10261093
How/where can I find a decent version of mysterio's mocap suit? Googling mysterio costume just gives him his classic look, but I'm going for pic related. The triangle patterns look kinda funky and I'd prefer it to be just the shirt. Worst case I'd have to buy a plain grey hoodie and stitch the patterns on? Kind of disappointed nobody is talking about it.

>>10267781
I've bought from people with no feedback before, as long as we're doing the transaction through paypal goods and services I don't mind it.

>>10267784
Nayrt, but people just forget. About 20% of people I've bought from never left feedback.

>>10268171
Ask in cosplay help thread. This one is for lolita and jfashion.

>>10268176
ok thanks!

>>10268172
Why do some people demand friends and family payment? To avoid fees? To scam people? I've seen people demand on over $300 items friends and family payment instead of goods and services when they are clearly selling a good by selling a dress. I just am genuinely confused. Wouldn't a buyer trust a seller more if they know they have buyer protection via PayPal?

>>10268054
A friend of mine had the same issue with vaping that it doesn't really feel like smoking a cigarette. He found that he just wanted to smoke *something* so now he smokes weed.

>>10268180
>To avoid fees? To scam people?
Yes and yes. Never use friends and family unless they actually are trusted friends or family.

>>10268054
Guessing the lozenges are gross too? I've only tried the gum and agree it's disgusting. You gotta replace the habit and find other ways of doing what it does for you, there's kinda 2 parts to it - the actual act (nicotine hit/having something to do with mouth and hands) and what you use it for (creating space for a break, de-stressing etc). Stupid as it sounds sticker and reward charts for yourself using the money you save not buying ciggies - or a jar in which you put the cost of each day's ones in and then treat yourself for a certain amount of time not smoking. Also, if you haven't quit before don't be scared if you feel shit and cough awful shit out of your lungs for a few weeks - it's often tar and crap that's built up trying to get out (but obvs see your doctor if it doesn't settle down or you get fevers and stuff). Good luck!!

>>10267924
Aldrich's pattern drafting books are classics and if you understand the basics of drafting, you'll understand how piss-easy and basic most lolita dress patterns are and how complicated jackets can get.
>http://www.mediafire.com/?nu3jjb79l9l3wsu
>https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d3z1814muvtxoyh/AADFuIAoYs9RYEkmaCEVNajDa?dl=0
>sewmag.co.uk (Free patterns w/ free sign up)
>https://www.moodfabrics.com/blog/category/free-sewing-patterns/

>>10268263
Seconding Aldrich, I'm doing a fashion degree and they are what we use to make basic blocks. Once you have blocks in your size you can make pretty much anything. Also like anon says, you will realise how painfully easy most lolita patterns are. OnS are very very beginner level, I used to collect them before I started my degree but now I never even bother with them aside from inspiration because I don't really like the way the patterns are fitted, many of them look super boxy or just off.

Going off of that though, if you want to make lolita clothes that look more interesting and unique you can't go wrong with learning some fabric manipulations, things like tucks, shirring, smocking etc. are what makes a lot of basic lolita pieces look complex. In a lot of cases you can just do them onto plain fabric and then just cut your pattern over the top, rather than adding allowances into your patterns so it's super simple. The art of manipulating fabric is a good book but you can also probably just find things on youtube.

>>10268035
>and tall
Lol, you're calling other girls autistic when you care about this like a basic bitch?

>>10268043
Halloween City carries a SM costume that comes in women's plus size, which should fit you

>>10268109
a good looking woman with options who doesn't have to settle*

>>10268048
Ranking is an attractive person thing. Jesus, to be this ugly and ignorant...

>>10267807
If you have a photo of the amount of poof you want (like model photos), just send it to her and ask for a petti of that poof.

>>10268180
Go to any MTG group and see the idiots refuse to make the F&F mandatory and then cry that they got scammed $2k in cards

>>10267309
It's best to get newrocks second hand. They're wayyy cheaper, plus the quality of the okder ones is better than theses days

>>10268054
I quit with vaping, but i smoked menthol before and then switched to one of the pen vapes with menthol liquid, so it didn't feel like too much of a jump. No idea about cold turkey though sorry

>>10268286

Jesus to be this hell bent on pretending to be female...

Even if the original guy asking for advice was hot, if he is a shit person no lolita or female weeb is going to actually like him just because he pretends to act a certain way if that isn't who he really is. Only most men are dumb enough to place physical appearance over genuine compatibility.

>>10268320

Scammed how? PayPal tends to be good about not siding with scamming buyers or sellers. I really don't see how being honest that you're selling a good or service would make you able to be scammed when PayPal has buyer and seller protection.

>>10268339
Nayrt PayPal is known to side with the buyer. I've been scammed by a buyer once, she asked her money back after receiving the dress. The teaching number showed that but I PayPal sided with her anyway. Them they closed the claim and ignored me forever. I made a new PayPal account with a different bank account and fake name because my other account had a balance of -150 euro.

>>10268339
Nayrt PayPal is known to side with the buyer. I've been scammed by a buyer once, she asked her money back after receiving the dress. The tracking number showed that, but PayPal sided with her anyway. Then they closed the claim and ignored me forever. I made a new PayPal account with a different bank account and fake name because my other account had a balance of -150 euro.

>>10268344
I heard they or Ebay used to be that way but got better. And with basic info like confirmed tracking it is fine and they typically use common sense in the decision making process (like, if it shows delivered and it is to their address listed in PayPal they probably received it). At least what I've heard from people in the US.

I've had a really hard time getting refunds when there are actual problems, so I'm doubtful that it would be that easy to scam someone these days.

What’s the best way to get wrinkles out of prints with glitter like Sugar Dream Dome and Milky Planet?

>>10268400
I think someone asked this or something similar in the last thread and people suggested using a steamer but steaming from the inside or something. I think they were talking more about metallics but maybe it would work with glitter too.

>>10268288
That's a great idea thank you!!!

>>10268283
meh I have niche reasons for caring about that but I'm not going into detail about my kinks on a chinese basketweaving website

>>10268445
>I'm not going into detail about my kinks on a chinese basketweaving website
best place to do it, show these manlets what's all about

Who drew the print Marionette in my Closet?

>>10268058
I used my mall box to get us make up

Anyone have recommendations on beginner cute makeup resources? Not interested in ''sexy'' makeup styles at all, but that's all I can find for my skin tone and eye shape. I have deep set eyes with dark lids and medium skin with olive undertones. I love the look of everyday cute Korean and Japanese makeup and some more labor intensive lolita looks to go with my classic or gothic dresses. I can't seem to find a place where I can get my foot in the door. I just keep wasting money on makeup that I have no idea how to apply in a cute way and ends up looking muddy. I want to pour so much effort into practice and getting better but don't know where I can go to grow with people who understand my style/intent and is patient with beginners. Sephora and Ulta employees treat me like shit and my comm can't really be trusted for subtle/demure looks in my skin tone. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I'm fatigued from years on and off of getting nowhere.

>>10268602
Type the dress name into Google, it's the first result
>Cgl is not your search bar

can anyone identify these shoes?

So I have some basic ivory lacy tights from taobao, brand new. I wore them ONCE and for some reason they came out of the wash and are now a pale grey?
yall I have no idea what happened, I used a colour catcher and did it on the delicate cycle. The only thing I can think of is that I didn’t wear socks on top of the tights and the foot part got a bit stained from the inside of my shoe and could have spread, but I don’t think that would make them such a uniform grey colour
They’re just taobao tights so it’s not a huge deal, but I don’t wanna have to buy new tights every time I wear them, ya know?

>>10261093
Can we start including some guidelines for stupid questions threads ? like "Try googling your question first before asking"

>>10268697
They were dyed ivory and it was cheap so it came off easily. Be glad it didn't happen while you were wearing them in the rain.

fucked up and wore my brand coat to a bonfire party. how to minimise smoke smell? it’s a big coat so I can’t just chuck it in water

>>10268761
Hang it somewhere that has good air flow

>>10268687
Looks like buffalo boots, not sure about aanything more specific than that though

>>10268676
Not your exact skintone, but MissDarcei on YouTube is a black girl that does a lot of Korean beauty and skincare looks. She's got some really great tips on tailoring the look to darker skin tones.

>>10267911
Fair enough, I wouldn't want to deal with ita/sissy shit either. That's some good advice though, I think I'll try that ahead of their next meet. Thanks, anon!

>>10268339
Friends and Family are not protected by so mtg groups tend to not use it and they scam people. Theres at least 8 call out scam posts a week in those groups

There's a red coat I wanna buy that apparently has dye transfer on the white faux fur trim. How possible would it be to remove this? From the pics there's no obvious pink but the fur looks a little bit dingy.

>>10268682
Thanks. I'm disappointed, her normal artwork isn't nearly as nice

>>10267784
half of the sellers I've dealt with haven't.

>>10268830
Why don't you just ask them to leave it?

>>10268054
I still smoke a bunch of weed, but that's what helped me quit cigarettes. It's marginally better imo.

>>10268844
It's way better. The effects on your health are a teeny tiny fraction of those of cigarettes.

>>10268845
>beware of the drooger

>>10268847
Not sure if joking but my post means weed is way better for you than cigs

>>10268055
gum is gross, but so is being fat

>>10268845
>>10268848
completely agree, I was talking more about the smell and looking like a rulebreaker-chan when I toke in public. At least the cigs are gone.

>>10268853
Oh gotcha! It's legal now where I live but I'll be honest I still do a double take when I see someone with a joint

>>10268849
butterless popcorn is only 30 calories per a cup, you'd have to eat a shit ton of popcorn to get fat

>>10268866

If you're going to eat one cup, that's honestly not a lot even for a regular person. Popcorn is mostly air, so it doesn't really fill you up the way other foods may. For comparison, a bucket is on average 20 cups, and your average compulsive eater will likely eat at least half of that.

>>10268867
the OP was talking about ways to stop smoking not about compulsive eating, if you chew on one piece at a time and don't grab giant handfuls you should be fine

>>10268867
>10 cups of popcorn
holy shit that's a lot of popcorn

>>10268869

Smokers usually complain about gaining weight after smoking though so they probably are grabbing more than one popcorn at a time. Probably want something less calorie intensive like veggies.

>>10268873
Yeah, it is.

newbie here. i'm going to my first comm meetup in november; what should i expect personality/behaviour-wise?

I just started using Discord. Which jfashion servers are the most active? I'm a lolita and I also like larme.

Best place to get a lavender turtleneck cutsew for cheap? Not seeing much secondhand currently.

>>10268831
Nta but I asked once and got no response. Now if they don't leave feedback I won't leave them any either.

How do i help fix yellowing white lace on a black dress

I want to wear lolita outside for the first time. What should i expect, and if possible could i get some recommendations of where to go? I know i can expect people talking behind my back, but I'm more wondering about the wear. I live in a warm climate and I'm scared of staining my blouse, bloomers and/or stockings yellow. I guess i should have invested in a parasol.

>>10269034
I had my first "lolita in public" outing recently and was surprised at how positive the pedestrian feedback was. I went to a diner for dinner and then a small book store.

Use a deodorant under your arms or a prescription strength antiperspirant, as it's the reaction between sweat + active antiperspirant that causes yellow underarm stains, more than sweat alone. So either use inactive deodorant, or eliminate the sweat entirely.
Wear a light layer underneath your blouse like a cami or thin nude t-shirt (t-shirt has the benefit of also protecting your blouse from whatever underarm product you use). Make sure it's a breathable material like cotton or linen. Likewise, underwear with lots of coverage under bloomers, or skip the bloomers entirely if it's a really hot day.
Dunno if there's a good way to protect your socks.

>>10268775
Many thanks Anon, I'll check out her channel.

Best place to get a long blonde wig with bangs for daily wear?

>>10268990

Axes Femme. Should also warn you it's a potential ita-magnet -- their stuff is cheap and sometimes it shows on the quality of the lace, plus with girly normie brand there's no such thing as consistent colour. But then again AP swings wildly with its lavender, and if you keep an eye on the quality it's not worse than anywhere else anyway.

>>10269034

Honestly depends on where you are and what you wear. A metropolitan city will be more open than a conservative backwater town (and some cities people will ignore you the weirder you dress, rather than bother with you at all). Beauty standards are surprisingly universal, if you look like a sane person who takes care of themselves, have a neat appearance, most people react positively and assume you have a reason to be dressed up. Generally if you don't look like a "living doll" delusional basement dweller people are usually positive.

Warm climate: if it's the humidity, parasols do shit against that. I'd suggest going with natural fibres, eg summer cutsews and cotton underthings (winter cutsews tend to actually be heavier fabric). Maybe a skirt rather than a jsk, be wary of fully-lined OPs as the polyester lining won't breathe well despite the dress being cotton.

And of course, just avoiding the sun as much as possible, plan to wear lolita when you're going to spend a lot of time indoors with fans/air conditioning, avoid it if you know you're definitely going to be somewhere hot and uncomfortable.

>>10267807
The casual cupcake fits under this cut of skirt very nicely

>>10269065
Arda, especially if you have a bigger than average head. You'll have to trim the bangs though, since they'll arrive long.

>>10269029
Put a baking soda & water paste on the lace, leave it for a while, then rinse it off.

How do I set up a payment plan as a seller?

I'm looking to commission someone for a toku-style helmet, and maybe some gloves. Is there someone decent in the states that does this? I already have a design in mind, I just wanna get in contact with them to help make it a reality.

>>10269101
>arda
bruh their wigs are itchy af tho

>>10269119
on paypal?
>create invoice
>allow for multiple payments

>>10269133
Huh, I always wear a wig cap, so I've never noticed.

>>10269123
ask in cosplay help thread

I'd like to get a pair of color contacts but all of the reputable sellers require a prescription. If my eyes are 2020 could I just get a friend to buy a pair of plano contacts for me or will i definitely fuck up my eyes?

>>10269101
I have ardas nina in brown and i thought that it was a little too thick to look natural.

Bodyline shoe sizing question. Does their 250 fit a US size 8 or 9, I’ve been looking around for an hour and it seems to be really inconsistent. I don’t want to potentially order shoes that won’t fit. I’m looking at shoe s535 if that makes a difference

how do you manage a long wig while at a convention? the last time i had a long wig at a con it got tangled up and i had to keep stopping in bathrooms to fix it. are there any lifehacks or anything to make it easier to manage, especially the static?

>>10269458
If it helps, I have one pair of Bodyline 235s and they're too small for my US 6.5-7 feet. I think I'm a 240.

>>10269476
Sheesh! Thanks for the answer anon, I may have to look somewhere else for shoes

>>10269297
you can have 20/20 vision and astigmatism at the same time so yeah you can possibly really fuck up your eyes. why can't you get whoever told you that you have 20/20 vision to write your prescription?

What material are his shoulder and chest pads made out of here?

>>10269483
Shoes drive me nuts. I wish there were more loliable shoes that could be bought in person.

So i bought my first JSK and it was an alice bodyline one. Th measurements were
Bust: 32-38 in / 81.5-96.5 cm
Waist: 28-32 in / 71-81.5 cm
My waist is 29 inches
My bust is 36 Inches
I can zip it up and stuff but the shoulder straps can't reach. It said the shoulder straps are 'adjustable' but it only has 2 button holes in it. If i do up the straps before putting it on. the side zipper does not go all the way up.
Am i doing something wrong? I completely untied the back shirring but i still had no luck.

>>10269503
Looks like synthetic canvas with batting sandwiched in to give it volume

>>10269470
Silicone spray

What are some other Angelic Pretty dresses in this exact style and cut? I know there's at least one, but I forget its name.

>>10267154
I’d like to know this too.

>>10269759
Oh duh, it was Classic Fairy Tales.

>>10269759
Filtering lolibrary by brand, category, and features will narrow down your search. Angelic Pretty, OP, Detachable sleeves. I see a bunch more like Ribbon Berry Bunny in there, and there are only four pages.

Are cutsews basically just lolita t shirts with ruffles, frill, lace/brand motifs?

>>10269976
Yea, but the nicer ones are made of a thicker material than a normal t-shirt

>>10269536
Get button extenders, you can find them on Amazon or eBay. They're basically a button with a loop of elastic attached, the button goes through the straps buttonhole and the elastic holds on to the existing button on the dress. Theyll give the straps an extra 2 inches or so.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lolita-ANGELIC-PRETTY-Dress-NWT/303302006057

is 225 a good deal for pic related?

can you wear lolita as a minimalist, y/n?
and i don't mean the amount of dresses you own, but i mean in appearance. i'd like to see examples too btw.

>>10270073
Yes. I'm not sure if this is your idea of minimalist lolita, but maijuline comes to mind for me.

>>10270065
try to offer her $175

Can you tie a ribbon around a sack piece like pic related to give it a defined waist? Or will it end up looking wrong?

>>10270148
yes. I have seen a lot of brands do it even in images, especially Atelier Pierrot

How would you go about doing a return and refund with a seller on Lacemarket? Should the buyer send out the dress first or should the seller refund the buyer?

>>10270148

Depends on your body shape/size, and also a little bit on the dress itself. For every promo pic where it works out, there's probably a girl posted in the ita thread where it doesn't work out.

If you're short and flat-ish, it'll usually work out fine. If you're tall, curvy and big, it'll generally go badly -- tying shortens the skirt as it needs to come in at the waist now, while curvy or big means there's usually a fabric balloon happening up top that's gonna result in a "snowman" kind of silhoutte.

Goes double if the dress is an OP with a rectangle skirt rather than flared (generally border prints are rectangle skirts), as there will be more fabric up top, and if the fabric is stiffer than soft polyester it'll generally do the balloon thing quite readily.

If you hit a combo on some of these, eg- short but curvy, or rectangle print but polyester, then it's usually something you need to experiment with to find out if it works.

>>10269976

And puffed sleeves.

When brand was harder to get your hands on there was some effort to "lolify" things like cardigans and t-shirts by sewing lace and ribbons and shortening them. The one biggest trip up to lolifying a t-shirt into a cutsew is the sleeves, no matter what kawaii thing you attached to it if the t-shirt sleeves looked like t-shirt sleeves it was somehow always a dead giveaway that this item was originally a t-shirt.

>>10270175
Buyer sends dress first .

>>10270073
Pic related styled very simply (so no rosary) is what immediately comes to mind for me when I hear "minimalist lolita". Wednesday Adams kei, basically.

>>10268697
>>10268705
Different anon here, but speaking of taobao tights, that's what I came to this thread for, was advice on buying them.

What is the average size that they fit? Would they fit a size 16 American or is that too fat? I'm losing weight so I'm still thinking of buying some for the future, but I also don't want to buy cheap painted/dyed ones, or any other types that I might regret.

>>10270390
>size 16 American
No clue what that means, but I could tell you if you gave us your measurements. It would also vary by what taobao store you're looking to get them from.

>>10270272
I love that, the two tone ribbon is such a neat touch.

Really dumb newbie question, but what are the advantages of buying secondhand brand over buying from taobao or bodyline?

>>10270455
Well, the advantage is you now own a brand piece.

>>10270455
-Quality (unless it's some of the cheaper feeling new AP stuff)
-Resale value
-It's brand
-Prints often are better designed (idk about AP these days though, that Halloween release was rough)
-Often actually much cheaper and arrives sooner if you order from within your country
-Bodyline stuff is always out of stock (though they are trying to fix that soon)
-Can actually be cheaper much of the time, some older brand dresses with easily removable or fixable stains and damage sell for under $90USD on LM often (I saw a cute BABY dress that didn't sell for 5 months because of the damage and eventually had the price reduced to like $60)
-Not contributing to fast fashion and waste

the list goes on anon, secondhand brand or new indie stuff like Lady Sloth is often more well liked by the community at large than most taobao for a variety of reasons.

>>10270455
let's rephrase
>what are the advantages of buying a higher quality garment over buying from taobao or bodyline?

I tried out japonica and its slow as shit. Whats a better shopping service?

Yo did anyone order Melty Hosptial from RPA? Tenshi said they were gonna ship it out in early October but has received no update. Kinda salty cuz I wanna wear it for Halloween. Anyone get their's/know when they're shipping out?

how do you guys typically style JSKs that come with detachable collars?

Is there a difference between bell and cupcake shaped petticoats? I've seen the terms used interchangeably before and I suck at figuring out the correct petticoat shape for dresses.

>>10270783
They mean the same thing.

I personally use bell, but it varies from person to person.

The only other shape is a line

>>10270783
Same thing, I think some people just prefer bell because it's less cutesy.

Are there any brand prints with owls? A quick search of Lolibrary gave me no results.

Is the best way to wash and dry a white turned ivory headbow with wires just an oxyclean soak and then air drying it in a spot with good ventilation?

1)is there a jsf style that has a lot of lace and layers like cult party kei, but gothic, you know, black clothes, crosses, silver, etc? Where i can look for such clothes?

2) how do i layer my clothes without looking like an old cat lady? Is there a good starting guide? Like, i don't even know, should i go size up for clothes i want to be on top. Or do you use normal skirts on top or you can only use overskirt for that. Etc etc.

>>10270852
I think there are some halloween prints by AATP/BTSSB with owls, but they aren't the focus

I have a shirt from Earth Music Ecology that is starting to fall apart at one of the armpit seams, but I absolutely love its fabric. I’d like to take it apart and use it to make a journal cover, but I have very little experience with sewing.

Would it be easy for a noob to make a removable journal cover with pockets or would a seamstress be interested in that type of work for a commission?

>>10271084
That would be a pretty easy starter project.

I don't wanna wear wigs that shit's gay, and this is not really a jfash question but considering lolita hair is almost always bangs I wonder if you lolitas that have bangs get bald spots? I am not even balding but I still have bald spots when I get bangs. I'm at an age where I can't walk around with retarded hair.

>>10271174
honestly it sounds like you're at an age where you can't be on this site

>>10271179
I got an amazing job and I can't risk losing it just because I have retarded hair. Every hairdresser I've been to just made my hair really retarded when they cut me bangs. Anyways, I asked a hairdresser friend of mine if she could give me normal bangs and apparently she said I have too much of a retarded hair line to be able to pull off bangs. Way to assume though lol.

>>10271181
dude we get it youre edgy
reading the word retarded so many times is making me retarded

For gothic lolitas: what are your favorite brands to buy from directly?

>>10270928

Dismantle and take out the wire first, it'll rust and stain through everything if you don't.

>>10270852

Meta's Nightmare Forest just came out, there's a white owl somewhere on the border.

>>10271036

1) Dark mori/strega, h.Naoto

2) No.

>>10271274
I mean I hve to announce that I got the bangs after all and thus have retarded hair so I'm kinda warning you gulls out here to not do it if you also have a retarded hairline like me.

>>10271360
Moi meme moitie

>>10271541
it sounds like you and your hairdresser are the retarded ones, cutting bangs isn't hard and it's a great way to hide a shitty hairline

>>10271593
>all hairlines are the same
breh.

>>10270455
People who are into lolita fashion often handle their purchase habits differently within the fashion. Less like a fast fashion and more like a collection.

If we are strictly speaking of advantages, then it's mostly the garnment and production quality. On average chinese brands are cutting costs where they feel it's legitimate in order to keep their prices low, which is why they fall behind traditional japanese brands. In the end you get what you pay for.

That aside there are also other things that make secondhand a viable or even better option than buying from taobao or bodyline. See >>10270528. Japanese brands are overall better liked than most Taobao labels or Bodyline for various reasons. The designs, the materials, the quality, the rich history and influence they had on the fashion, resale value, better collectable due to said market value/designs/rarity, the prestige,....

To be fair people who prefer taobao over japanese brands or think bodyline serve their need just as well exist too. I guess it really comes down on the individual and the circles you are in, but on average japanese brands are still seen as top-tier for said reasons and more.

>>10271604
So on average what is the price of a second hand buy dress and a random taobao dress

>>10271360
I would have said MMM too, but i'll go for atelier pierrot.

>>10271624

A lot of nuance here though.

- Older, unpopular, average burando regularly runs around $100~$200
- If it's even older and even less popular, it'll dip below $100, even undamaged (but worn) pieces.
- If it's damaged it'll also be cheap (depending on the damage. The more unwearable the cheaper, people do buy them for crafting or modding their own dresses but nobody's going to pay a hundred bucks for some small square of fabric)
- If it's a newer item, or NWT (new with tag) then it'll be more expensive, sometimes almost at retail price.
- If it's a popular item that many girls want, there will be some richer girls willing to pay more money to own it, even secondhand, so the secondhand price of a very popular dress can be higher than its original retail price (of course, this changes according to the market, if girls no longer find the dress exciting then nobody is willing to pay that much for it and the price drops)

Taobao:
- firsthand taobao is frequently around $80 per dress, but this is your average cheap taobao
- The fancier taobao dress with more add-ons (note that it isn't always higher quality) is frequently higher than $80
- Unlike burando, the resale value of taobao is spotty at best -- if you luck out there is maybe one or two girls looking for the dress and willing to pay you money. Everything else you might as well throw in the donation bin when you're done. That's because taobao has a reputation where a lot of the dresses are easily damaged, so buying secondhand is highly risky, even if the dress is only 1-2 years old.

>>10261093
What's wrong with Milanoo?

>>10271844
everything

>>10271844
its okay for beginners and people who are extremely poor, don't worry and shop away~

>>10271855
Kek

Are there any J-Fashion brands that have larger sizes for tall girls? I'm shopping for someone who is skinny but extremely tall (5'11"). I noticed a lot of brands only sell "free" size, which kinda only works in Japan.

>>10271855
What is with trolls running amuk the last day or so on cgl? Milanoo is a scam and hot garbage when they do actually send anything remotely accurate.

>>10271910
No. Japanese girls are pretty much uniformly short, there is no 'tall' sizing as most j-fashion brands aren't specifically targeting a taller western market.

>>10271910
Innocent World has some longer dresses and she could always invest in underskirts.

>>10271910
bodyline

>>10271910
Liz Lisa sometimes makes "tall" size which is a few inches longer than their usual size.

>>10271624
What >>10271779 said is mostly correct, but you will find the odd dress for cheaper than 100 and in good condition. Most recently I picked up a Cinderella Jewelry jsk for around 6k yen. It helps to learn how to use Japanese secondhand websites as there is lots more stock and it's often cheaper.

>>10272027
I just realized this was addressed in the second point, my bad!

>>10272027
this gives me somewhat hope. somewhat. i will try using japanese secondhand websites.
>>10271779
thanks fren. this was really helpful.

So... I wonder what you brandwhores who wear mint dresses exclusively even have as jobs to be able to purchase all of this? Just a question.

>>10272065
>even have as jobs
kek, most of them leech off their husband or family.

>>10272065
>>10272072

You can find good condition or new dresses or sets for the same a or under retail (which is like $250 or less for a lot of sets); that's a lot for a kid or a poor person with no ability to save but it's not at the level you need a sugar daddy or rich family to afford lol.

Teenage lolitas probably have extra spending money and a part time job cause they aren't paying rent yet; depending on the wage where they live you could easily make enough to buy a dress and accessories every month even at non discounted prices and then resell ones you don't like to pay for new ones. Most people with big wardrobes build it over time or people are just good at coording in unique ways and make it seem like they own more than they do by making the outfit look distinctly different each time.

You guys must be children or ridiculously poor (and have bigger things to worry about than Japanese burando) if you think buying secondhand lolita is really that expensive when done carefully and properly.

>>10272112
I'm just a cheapskate desu. And I was asking more the actual "rich" ones who do not google everywhere for the cheapest price. Informative though, thnx ig...
>>10272072
S-surely some of them must be career oriented?

>>10272065
I think it's rare for someone to order exclusively from brand websites and never buy secondhand. With exceptions, Lolitas usually take care of their clothing, and most brand is durable and high quality, so secondhand dresses often don't look any worse than mint after steaming or ironing wrinkles out.

Personally, I work full time doing database work (nothing too fancy or well paid), but I'll be going to part time soon and my husband and I will be splitting our money 50/50. I have more money working full time, but the tradeoff isn't worth it (two-income trap and all that... Plus the apartment is a damn mess all the time.) Regardless, it's all about budgeting, much more than salary. You have to look at exactly what you spend and what comes in, and allocate the latter. I generally go with the 30/70 rule -- save about a third of what you make and spend the rest on bills and rent; what's left over is discretionary.

Someone who makes 10k more than me but eats out at restaurants all the time will have less to spend than if they buy cheap produce and cook their own food. Etc.

>>10272065
>>10272126

The "actually rich ones" don't bother getting into lolita -- even a $300 dress, it's not really impressive. They go straight for the 5-digit designer handbags. If I ever got a sugar daddy you can bet I'm not wasting his money on lolita dresses whose value plummets as soon as lolitas forget it exists, I'd ask for a Birkin as a gift rather than AP.

Girls in lolita are generally middle to upper-middle class. A lot work, though I don't have a census to tell you how many prioritise career.

With the secondhand market, the entry level is actually very low. Most of the buying problems I see are with girls who decided to get into lolita yesterday and want a full wardrobe today, too impatient and unwilling to put in effort to budget properly and find out where to buy cheap but quality dresses. I don't know if they ever realise that those girls with huge wardrobes usually collect the dresses one by one over a handful of years.

Is there any way to prevent someone sees your listing on Lacemarket? Maybe by blocking them? There is some nasty person on my comm who wants to buy my shit...

>>10272192

I'm sure there are rich people who buy lolita because they like it and not because of the monetary value. Maybe not very many but I'd assume people with a lot of money are going to buy what they like whether it's expensive or cheap. Conspicuous consumption is really for the middle to upper middle class while the rich just do whatever they want whether it costs a lot or not.

Is there an official discord for cgl?

>>10272233

Fair enough, I was trying to emphasise that lolita is very much not "rich people fashion". I could see rich people buying a random lolita item because they like it, but "getting into" lolita seems a bit pointless.

>>10272231
Just don't sell to them if they try to purchase your listing?

>>10265732
Isn’t it also a Game of Thrones reference? They repeatedly call young naive people a “sweet summer child”

>>10267164
You and me both! I have every color but red and the berets are impossible to find

>>10270390
You’re going to be too big, sorry. Even “plus size” from taobao is for chubby Asian girls (short and still not actually very big compared to a European body) Try We Love Color to teja jamilla on Etsy

>>10272276
Nope. That's a really common saying in the American South.

>>10272239

There was definitely a rich lolita who was here for a while. And let's not get started on the Chinese nouveau riche.

Other than investing enough money into funds and property to ensure that they have income without having to work, rich people probably just buy shit they like just like the rest of us.

>>10272072
I don’t know a single lolita who gets their stuff bought for them. Most are independent working women in the professional sector and can afford to buy clothes. I’m an engineer. A $300 dress isn’t really that big of a deal, especially since once you get past the startup costs, a lot of lolita’s wardrobes are self/funded or self-offset. That is to say I spent a lot at first but after a couple years I’m to the point where generally I sell stuff and use that money plus maybe an extra $50 to buy a new (to me) dress. Almost every other girl in my comm is the same.

>>10272287

There's always an outlier.

For the chinese market, we don't have the numbers so I'd rather not blindly speculate.

>>10272308

I'm just saying actually rich people are just still people and not robots trying to outdo each other. They're bound to have different tastes and not all of them are interested in stupid flexes. You're also the one making broad generalizations about rich people, so ok.

>>10272192

There's generally a career thread every few months, maybe if you lurked more you would actually know instead of answering a stupid question with a stupid answer.

Just moved to japan for uni and i don’t know how to pay mercari jp. It requires a Japanese debit or credit card but i only have my american one. They dont accept paypal either. I saw at 711 they have the mercari logo but i dont know how to ask how to make the payment to buy an item on the website

I've got a decently thin upper body but am very much pear-shaped, my measurements in cm are 81/72/101. I'd like to try dressing in a more feminine, mature style and I love looking at clothes from Axis Femmes, but a lot of their pants are cut in this straight, wide cut that I've never worn before. Would this cut of pants just make me look fat?

>>10272525
as a fellow pear: generally these types of pants will end up tight around your thighs to the point where it no longer has the same draping look as the pic, but people can still tell that’s what the intended effect was. you’re better off with skirts or other cuts where your hip/thigh measurement won’t be a detriment to the shape.

So the inner brim of a beret is meant to be folded in and not showing to avoid looking like a chef's hat, right? Then why do berets like pic related have decorated brims? Am I missing something? Is it meant to be worn like this?

>>10272600
There are different styles of berets my dude.

https://lolibrary.org/items/ap-chelsea-beret

Any truth to this?

>>10272604
Are there? That's good to know, thank you, I've only ever heard about the type I described.

>>10272606
Sieg is a dumb guy who has nothing better to do. Don’t flatter him whey you’re attention

>>10272606
>believing a namefag
>ever

>>10272606
well, the job part seems to be. most lolitas i see around FB have seriously shitty jobs.

>>10272288
congrats on somehow avoiding the gazillion comments on fb groups where lolitas talk about how their bfs spoil them with new dresses all the time

>>10272351
there was a lolita income thread a couple months ago and most people didn't make much over $50k. that should tell you a lot.

>>10272665
You can not make much money and still afford newish dresses regularly, especially since a lot of men don't spend much on themselves or shop as much as women do a lot of the time.

Is there any way to lighten parts of a sock? I recently bought those cross ribbon socks from enchanteddreamwear and while they are nice the white parts are more off-white than anything.

>>10272439
Bump

Where can I find corsets that go with lolita and shinori? I know Enchantilly and Abilletage make some, but they don't seem actually boned, and more like a fashion accessory?

>>10272814
Look for corsets of the "waspie" cut. Timelesstrends has some as far as I know, and if you DIY and sew some lace onto it it can be a really nice piece.

Can anyone give recommendations for hairstyles or wigs that would be suitable for Gothic and/or Classic lolita that don't involve the usual blunt(ish) front bangs? I look really awful in them, I've tried :(

What does an unsold auction on LM mean? if I see a listing that ended unsold does that mean that there’s a chance I could still buy the item if I contact the seller?

Just moved to japan for uni and i don’t know how to pay mercari jp. It requires a Japanese debit or credit card but i only have my american one. They dont accept paypal either. I saw at 711 they have the mercari logo but i dont know how to ask how to make the payment to buy an item on the website

>>10273137
If it's a recent lisitng politely DMing them to relist it is worth a shot. The worse they can do is ignore you or say no.

Basically I'm doing a low effort shite meme cosplay of toga from my hero academia
I ordered some beer koozies to use as these shoulder things because I plan on putting monster cans in them instead actually having the needle canister things.
What I want to know is how I should stick the koozies together and have them be upright while supporting the weight of cans inside (most likely empty but if full even better), and then be able to mount them on my shoulder

I'm looking for Japanese cosplay brands, licensed stuff you know. I already know of Cospatio and Trantrip, but are there any other brands selling official cosplay stuff? No J-fashion or anything, just cosplay.

Is it common to wear both a KC and beret together? And how does one avoid the beret from slipping off? Just with a sewn in comb?

Is it bad when you see someone looking for a DD you are about to sell, that you prefer to list it as an auction instead of selling it directly to them? Or should they have dibs? It might be someone else's DD too?