/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

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>>10240799
those bonnets are perfectly large

>>10240795

love this dress

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>>10240933
she is amazing!

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>>10240933
Left is how I feel when I see one of her coords.

>>10240933
Her coords are decent but she sold me a fucking rank BO smelling dress with pit stains and makeup stains listed as “like new” so now I think she’s a massive bitch. I’d leave feedback but the way everyone sucks her dick makes me wary to

>>10240964
feedback or it didn't happen.

>>10240968
There’s nothing for me to gain by leaving feedback at this point anyway, it can’t reverse time so I can unsmell her BO

>>10240964
idk if that constitutes as "massive bitch" but yikes nevertheless, that's gross and shady

>>10240789
What does this thread think of rereleases like Baby's Classical Series?

>>10240944
>kuniko will never look at you like this
I'm 100% jelly, salty and triggered.

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>>10240989
I like them, but why tf did the recent reservations sell out? They're literally basic materials, do an MTO?

>>10240974
By leaving feedback you can warn others who are considering buying from her in the future, and cost her potential sales.

>>10240932
I used to love Kana until i learned she used to be a porn actress.
Desgostang.

>>10241075
You're lame

>>10241056
By leaving feedback you might also get her to change her ways.

>>10241075
Why do you care?

>>10241075
Good for her. You on the other hand are disgusting.

>>10241075
I love her more.

Was there a difference between black sweet lolita and gothic lolita at the old school era?

>>10241075
Yeah, you’re definitely the disgusting one here.

>>10241075
Is she really? I never heard of that but desu I think her music is pretty bad.

>>10240937
I want to wear a simple coord just like this so bad.

>>10240799
I really miss seeing Ayana, she was my favourite for a long time but she has all but disappeared...

>>10241347
What's stopping you? It's a very simple coord, if you have a basic wardrobe at all you should be able to pull it off

>>10240994
Meh her designs these days are ugly af so idc, if Mana looked at me like that though...

>>10241359
Nayrt but it's harder to find that kind of jsk secondhand now, I regret not buying more when they were unwanted.

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>>10241362
My ribs are too wide for most releases of this style of dress. I'll have to wait for the opportunity to aquire a partially shirred piece, and they are even more rare. I specifically want it to be tartan to bring a bit of visual weight to the simplicity. But I'm staying positive and patient!

>>10241277
Yeah there's definitely a difference. A lot of stuff itt is from sweet brands like AP and Baby. As far as gothic goes Moitie has always been Moitie, and brands like h. naoto and Atelier Boz were more prevalent than they are now.

>>10241075
Never loved her but ew

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>>10241339
Hoes mad, also nice samefaggotry. I reckon you're from that hugbox discord and you're probably crying that i'm "slutshaming"?
Sluts should be shamed. Men and women. Die mad about it lol.

>>10241346
Her music was like listening to a whiny 5yo,i only kinda liked her aesthetic honestly.

>>10241387
what a rebel, guissee

>>10241376
the new versions are shirred

>>10241387
No one said you had to like her. No one said you were slut shaming. You're so annoying

>>10241362
I'm a newbie and I got mine for $70 on the western market as one of my first brand dresses. They're not rare and baby rereleases them all the time and they're even accommodating to bigger bust sizes so finding one isn't actually hard. Mercari and Fril always have them up too, you really must not be looking hard

>>10241387
> samefaggotry
Nah

>>10241075
When and where did you hear this? Sounds like a lie.

>>10241075
When and where did you hear this? Sounds like a lie.
She's been in the public eye since she was like 16. Where would she fit in time to do porn and somehow *not* have it be publicly known in the midst of all the music stuff and her appearances in GLB pages? It would ruin her reputation. Poor bait.

>>10241387
She was a porn actress not a whore. Do you not get the difference?

>>10241469
Literally the only difference is one gets filmed. They’re exactly the same thing otherwise.

>>10241387
>trying so hard to be edgy on 4chan
disgusting

>>10241414
It's harder if you have requirements regarding colorway. I pretty much only want sax.

>>10241471
Another is a profession and another is just about being a slut.

What are your fav gothic coords snaps?

>>10241515
Being a whore is a profession, so is being a pornstar. Again the only difference between the two is a camera. Both whores and pornstars are groups of filthy people who should be culled

>>10241530
Oh my god shut the fuck up and stop posting off topic shit. And learn to sage.

>>10241531
>learn to sage

Go back to the farm dumbass, there’s no rule you have to sage for offtopic here. Stop trying to larp as a mod.

>>10241449
Nayrt but she could've just changed her artist nickname. Maybe it's known to japanese people. Her GLB appearances were about 17 years ago and she hasn't made any music for a decade. It wouldn't be the first music/model career that ends in gravure or porn.

All oldschoolers are dumb brandwhore itas

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okay

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And

>>10241584
In that case, I just want to see proof from that anon.
She's in her mid-30s now, after all.
>inb4 they just come back with some JAV girl that sort of looks like her

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*most

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goodbye

>>10241975
This one makes me genuinely happy and i despise pigtails esp high

>>10241978
Aww

>>10241986
Thank you for your contribution,anon,very nice

>>10241980
That facial expression is prime reaction image material

>>10241975
>that keroro gunsou clip

I think this is her best coord yet. I love it.

>>10243722
This edit of this picture fills me with awe. She's one of the coolest people online and she's very sweet

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>>10243722
These coords/edits are so cool, she always surprises me

>>10243729
She has great taste. I always enjoy seeing her coords.

>>10241075
FOH loLiTaS aRe lOveLy aND EleGanT ass bitch

>>10241075
sauce

I had a dream where I bought this... Sigh.......

>>10243727
Who's this?

>>10243832
some day, your dreams will come true

>>10241387
>sluts should be shamed
So glad someone in this fucked up world agrees

>>10243954
https://www.instagram.com/opal.pasteldream/

I missed her but she didn't really do this piece justice imo.

>>10244166
Vampire librarian realness

Every time I see this Meta nurse set, I can't help but remember that one girl who posted it as her first coord, only for another girl to pop in and claim that what she was wearing was "not really Lolita" and "just a costume". Someone here said the second girl was just salty that she owned such a rare set, but still, the whole thing managed to start a flamewar on whether or not the nurse set is "true Lolita".
I really wonder sometimes.

>>10244172
This happened this year and you're extremely exaggerating. It was not that much of a big deal. Back in lj times it regularly got flack for looking like a cheap costume.

>>10244172
Not to be an edgelord but anything a brand releases is lolita. Those AatP sneakers? Those are now lolita sneakers.
Lolita is so much easier if we could all shut up and enjoy it. Asking lolita handbook for forgiveness is killing creativity.
>to clarify this is to the og poster saying Hdoll isnt lolita, not you anon

>>10244199
Ok garbage-chan.

>>10244175
desu not old school. just black and white lolita

>>10244211
I love this. Makes me want to go haunt my local arcade.

>>10244214
This girl's coords are always so cute

>>10244211
This OP is really nice I wish the photo was better quality.

>>10244215
This fucking coord gets posted in every oldschool thread. Makes me think it's a self post.

>>10244225
Cosplay

>>10244227
What character?

>>10244233
Bathtub gothloli #47

I wouldn't normally expect the skirt to go with everything else, but I actually really like this. It works for some reason.

>>10244253
is this dress vm?

>>10244255
No.

>>10244256
do you have id on it then? the gauze fabric made me think its vm since they used it a decent amount.

>>10244257
Yes.

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>>10244255
I don't know what dress it is, but going by the user's tagging, the dress is from Na+H.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSPLrfXDgA4/

>>10244215
Doesn't it have all old school features?

>>10244250
Nor old school

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No

>>10244289
Wide headdress, messy hair, crochet lace, chunky boots. Are you blind, retard?

>>10244319
>new bodyline
>tulle lace you chose to overlook
>killstar shoes

But definitely not a selfpost, sure.

>>10244319
nayrt but
>tulle lace everywhere
>shitty 2010 bodyline jsk
I thought this was the inspo thread

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>>10244261

It's a shirt. http://www.lolitahistory.com/gallery/picture.php?/53/category/2
The fucking state of this board. I bet you're all just old school larpers.

Whoever dumped last has shit taste

>>10244249
muh diq

>>10244172
oh my

>>10244319
You're the retard honey. You clearly don't even know what old school is.

>>10244374
Definitely.

>>10244402
This is just bait if you ain't pointing out what's wrong in her outfit.

>>10244407
there's already been two posts pointing out why it isn't oldschool

>>10244373
Calm down.

>>10244162
Stupid question but I've been looking all over for shoes like the ones in this picture. Problem is I have big feet (26cm). Any ideas?

>>10244242
wish she ironed the apron, but I do like it otherwise.

>>10244539
Antaina makes custom sized shoes

>>10244409
therefore it's bait, move on

anyone have any good hairstyles/inspo for boob length thick hair? I really like teased pigtails but my hair is too heavy to maintain it even with hairspray and I'm tired of twin braids...

>>10244582
Read glbs

>>10244249
This is EXACTLY my shit. Who? What dress? Love it love it love IT.

>>10244770
It's from Cornet

>>10244770
Her insta is frozen__bug

>>10244931
Do you like my coord gulls?

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>>10245035
>old school thread
>posts this
???
>>10245037
I'd love this more with different lace accessories
>>10245044
this is great

>>10245034
I loooove this. I really need more tea length pieces

>>10245094
>Sees nonprint b/w coord
>claims its not old school

Whats wrong with you?

>>10245119
Weak bait

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>>10244175
can we stop posting this dress and calling it old school, PLEASE??

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Finally a good dump! Thanks anon, these are all great

>>10245142
You don't like it cause it's bodyline. Stop being such a brandwhore!

>>10245229
not that anon, but it's just not oldschool, either. Bait.

>>10245233
Its b/w and it has that tacky old school lace

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>>10245233
Can you stop saying new pieces can be old school. Why you need to gatekeep those who doesn't want to buy 20 years old dresses

>>10245238
fuck off newfag

>>10245242
If you don't want to then that's your problem

>>10245242
just because you don't want to doesn't mean it's makes your new dresses anymore old school

>>10245249
Fuck off Ophelia.
New dresses =/= new school dresses. Not always at least

Just because something is b/w doesn't make it lolita, either... Anyway, can we stop replying to obvious bait?

>>10244539
Angelic Imprint goes pretty big

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This is really cute!

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Boohoo were just horrible meanie elitists for telling you that something isn't old school just because it's black/white and ugly as fuck. Sorry your coord isn't getting the praise you wanted, maybe try hitting up some itas or sweet lolitas who don't know what they're talking about if you want asspats

>>10245035
why do you tards think black/white automatically equals oldschool? it doesn't. This is just black and white lolita.

>>10245370
Nayrt but there are also sweet old schoolers, you gothic dumb whore

>>10245405
you're right anon let me correct myself: go talk to an ott sweet lolita who doesn't know her ass from a whole in the ground but can list off the top ten modern angelic pretty prints to lick your ass for you. better?

>>10245265
>that beret
i have never wanted anything more in my entire life

>>10243722
This edit looks so amateurish it's cringy to look at it.

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>>10244325
Oh, the retard from the last thread. Hi. It's so refreshing to see you.

Requesting coords with NEW oldschool releases. I like oldschool aesthetic but hate buying secondhand unless it's NWT. And I also like to support brands I like via directly purchasing from them.

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Those are two people and a very common opinion.

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>>10245517
No one even talked about Ophelia, are you okay? Btw keep it a bit down with your shitposting, it's starting to kill your anonymity, ass-licking chan.

>>10245456
New oldschool is literally called trad or baby's classical series. Get it into your head newfag jesus fuck

I'm pretty tired of the summerfags shitting up this thread with uninformed opinions. Have some pictures Kato-san had saved from 1997/2002

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>>10245450
i think that was the point. it's like tacky early 00's blingee-style editing, which makes it charming to me
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these are optimum aesthetic
>>10245466
you didn't even try with that bait, did you? at least the jsk is coorded better here

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>>10245453
Make it three retards with the same opinion.
>>10245456
Stop being so ignorant. You can still buy items and style them old school, just don't call it that. Baby calls their "old school inspired line" their classical series and actual rereleases of old dresses can be considered old school (and since baby releases those a lot you shouldn't have a single issue buying new) but calling new bodyline old school? blkxowh coords are not automatically old school, i don't know why new and sweetfags keep thinking this but please stop, you just look very stupid. Much of what you have posted is just toned down gothic and classic, i really implore you to do some research on old school before getting buttmad when you aren't getting asspats on your modern gothic coord you keep calling old school.

>>10245578
perfect.

getting tired of all the "old school" that isn't old school spam in this thread.

>>10245559
Pls stop use this Ophelia's nonsense! Trad lolita and old school lolita are synonims

>>10245559
We had this discussion in the last thread, please stop embarassing yourself.

>>10245044
whos this? she's really cute.

>>10245579
a) I have no idea what are you talking about, that is my first post in the thread and b) I'm not the anon who dumped. No one is saying all blkxowh dresses are oldschool but the one you are throwing a fit about is definitely a oldschool style dress. Also I get plenty of asspats with my non-dusty oldschool dresses, thank you. No one cares about it outside cgl and even here it's just 1 or 2 idiots like yourself.

Just purchased the pic related and I'm super excited about it. I've been waiting for it to restock for over a year now, I guess Mr.Yan2 finally heard my prayers. I hope the new lace they used is as gorgeous as the older version.

>>10245586
If anyone cares, Rino is still wearing lolita and works with Misako on tea parties
https://twitter.com/rino_shinomiya?s=09

>>10245561
Ruan (on left) is the designer/owner of Morun x Muuna Stoik
https://twitter.com/ruan_mms?s=09

I'd like to hear about more of the other lolitas if anyone knows

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Her insta is @livlotte

>>10245804
Do you know whatever happened to Yukiko?

Or ya know...whatever happened to Kana? I’ve searched and have not found a single thing at all after her last Europe tour.

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>>10245579

Well that's just wrong but okay

>>10245559
>newfag
You think throwing this word around will make your incorrect opinions sound valid? Nah, f a m. Been here since livejournal days and this traditional vs. oldschool shit only started a couple months ago. GTFO and stop shitting oldschool thread, make yourself a 20+ years old dresses thread or something if you are so obsessed about it.

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>>10245559
can we not do this again

7 years ago I sold my Hawase Doll for $60. It took 2 weeks to sell.
2 days ago Wunderwelt sold Hawase Doll for $330. It took less than an hour to sell.

I hate each and every single one of you.

>>10246511
lol

>>10246511
It took about 2 days to sell actually. I was watching it. I want it, but not for that much. If it were for 200-250 I would of jumped in it instantly tho.

>>10246633
Well this is a bit more reasonable but I'm still mad anyway.

>>10246644
Baby releases everything else I wonder if we start emailing them if they would consider a hawase doll rerelease too?

>>10246646
They rerelease hawase quiet frequently?

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sauce? I can see that there's a signature but it's kinda hard for me to read it.

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>>10245576
this looks like shit. would it have killed her to wear a light petti or at least iron her shit?

>>10246833
>being mad at an 11 year old coord
Anon please

>>10246830
that poor jacket

>>10246867
And I would have been mad about it back then if I would have seen it as well. Looks like she stores her clothes in a wad on the floor.

>>10245799
You're late because it has restocked many times in that time period.

>>10246899
yeah, a shame because it’s such a nice set

>>10246910
Not the color-size I needed.

>>10247019
I have personally seen the bl/bl and b/w in all sizes like 4 or 5 times in the past year.

>>10247019
It's not even old school though, talk about this shit in the bodyline thread.

What is with the huge influx of people wanting to be identified as into old school when they don't even wear, or want to wear, old school at all? What's wrong with just being a lolita? It's like the lolitas-at-heart but with old school. There is nothing wrong with wanting to wear modern black and white pieces and just being a lolita.

>>10247053
yeah I don't get it either. there is nothing wrong with wearing the bodyline heart dress or the one above anon is talking about and calling it old-school inspired. or even using modern pieces and calling that old school inspired. but it's not old school.

>>10247053
I used to be like those people. I needed some time to understand that old school isnt just about colour scheme.
Its just like first try itas lol.

>>10246829
This is one of my favorite edits of hers. Also that dress is so lovely.

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To be clear, what do you guys think constitutes something being "too new to be old school"? The Bodyline heart JSK is supposedly from 2010, so is 2009 the cut-off point? Or even earlier? Is old school an aesthetic that's meant to bring back the styling and energy of the past, or just the practice of strictly using older pieces for one's coords? If it's the latter, would modern accessories kill off the validity of an "old school" coord, and just make it "old school inspired" by default?
Who even started the "old school inspired/trad =/= old school" thing really? I might be wrong, but I have a slight feeling it's not that one girl who made the YouTube "FAQ", even though people attribute it to her a lot. I remember someone mentioned it being Misako, but others claimed she was just using that to describe classical lolita, not old school.
I personally prefer hunting down older, rarer stuff secondhand, so I have no dog in this fight either way. It'd just be good to know the general consensus.

>>10247302
For me, it’s most importantly about the design and quality of construction and materials. I think generally, old school is cut off at around 2006, but of course there are pieces that were released later and convey that old school feeling, but it just becomes much harder to come by because trends have evolved and quality or materials and construction has diminished. It seems the people getting angry that their bodyline isnt accepted as old school are probably new to this or just haven’t spent enough time looking at old lolita resources to develop a real understanding of what constitutes an old school piece stylistically beyond the bxw/crochet lace stereotype

>>10247302
This:
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>>10247302
I'd also agree that 2006 is the general cutoff point... there are pieces you can find that are later that truly fit the aesthetic, but in general, a lot of more modern pieces are drastically different, in construction, materials, design. Using a modern tulle headdress with all old school pieces just looks a little off, you know? Just an example.

And I think a lot of people consider modern pieces "old school inspired" not just a few people. It's easy to see how confused about old school people are, just take a look at sales listed "old school" sometime. A lot of it is modern in a bw/wh colorway. Old school is less about colorway and more about overall feel/look. Look at all the pink, red, gobelin, etc old school pieces out there!

>>10247053
I think that they are just uninformed. It's just like the girls in a super sweet coord who call it gothic just because it's black (or the normies even, who say "lol goth gf" when they look like basic normies in a black tshirt). Basically, it's just uninformed people who have an idea but miss the mark. They don't know enough about the style to differentiate what makes something old school, and go by things like colorways.

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>>10247053
Plus, a lot of people want to be part of something, so try to jump in with only basic ideas of what that something is.

>>10246511
fellow oldschooler anon, I feel you. On the brighter side, if you have any other older pieces you want to sell, now's the time to do it, and fuck anyone who 'researches' your Lacemarket history.

>>10247747
>encouraging artificial inflation
gtfo cunt

>>10247302
>Who even started the "old school inspired/trad =/= old school" thing really?
This wasn't even a thing only a couple months ago and now everyone acts like they are such an oldfag for calling coords has been called oldschool for years "traditional". I think Ophelia started it and she is uninformed at best. I live in Japan and lolitas here see no difference between real old dresses and oldschool styled new releases so this all sound like a bunch of bullshit to me.

>>10247816
It was less of an issue because old school wasn't popular and now that all these summerfags keep coming in trying to style modern gothic and classic coords it makes sense why it's being discussed in depth. Normally everyone just rolls their eyes at people who call their obviously not oldschool coords oldschool

I have a dump ready if someone can start a new thread

>>10247823
Nayrt but this is not true and I wish y'all would stop shitting old school threads with this tired argument.

>>10247932
New thread!

>>10245461
OMG WHO IS THIS GORGEOUS PERSON!?!?!?!?!?

>>10252985

Not sure but want 2 marry.

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>>10254248
Girl from Russia. Still want to marry?