/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

People in lolita who squeeze into clothes that are too small. Maybe in the past when there was only very restrictive brand sizes and clothes were hard to get I could understand it but these days lots of custom options and expanded sizes exist. Please wear clothes that fit.

Unending posts about fat people. It's starting to become more than a little repetitive at this point. Why are you all obsessed with fat people?

>>10230199
I think especially in summer with more bare arms and light colored socks, plus the growing number of fat people in the fashion these reasons just push people to bitch about it because it’s more we’ll, visible. I think everyone knows lolita is kind of a chubby girl fashion compared to every other Japanese street fashion but there’s a pushback when the numbers of western obese people in lolita keep increasing. Many of them do wear the clothes badly, a higher percentage of fat people look like shit in lolita with badly fitting clothes, bad wigs, bad styling, shitty shoes, etc, aside from their weight entirely, and it’s evident.
It’s not PC to talk about the topic anywhere else so it’s all concentrated here. Someone can post a critique that has 5+ legit beefs about the style but if they also say ‘fat’, then they get a big pushback. That pisses people off. Those are some reasons.

What grinds my gears is there is some group of people here that want to categorize things so badly that they are creating a lot of redondent threads and bumping off a lot of completely unique threads in the process.

I get that you want to get what you clicked on, but you need to also realize that cgl is this kinda unique place were two/three (does larp count as the third wheel?) small communities are trying to share one board. There aren't enough of any of these groups to start a totally separate board so we have to share. But it's hard to share when there's 2-4 threads that are very similar opinion-centric.

>>10230199
Agreed. I'm definitely of the opinion it's not a taboo subject (weight, that is) to discuss but I'm getting tired of the unproductive bashing. Like, I think talking about fat people should conclude with some kind of nugget of information or insight, not just another statement of the obvious common opinion. I mean, why do overweight people feel bad about their weight? Because it's not unique or uncommon for others to think it's unattractive. It's just wheel-spinning and it bugs me.

>>10230192
This gets confused for the fat topic, but I agree... I really don't care how big or how tiny you are; wear clothing that fits. I use to wear dresses that were too big for my waist and would bag and pool at the bottom of the bodice. It looked just as bad as if I were too fat for the dress. Since then I've gotten way more picky with fit and I look 100% better the before when I wore popular fits that looked to big and empty on me.

>>10230244
Then please post good content on your unique threads and keep them live. This thread, confessions thread and unpopular opinions thread are simply containment threads to keep the bitching out of the generals and out of the topic specific threads and sometimes we blow through these too fast, other times we only need 1-2. But in the northern hemisphere, It’s hot, people are crabby and they want to bitch about things.

Also if your favorite unique topic threads are not getting posts enough to even stay on the board, then maybe they aren’t very good topics for this image board after all? Else they would at least get enough posts to stay? I follow doll thread and corset thread and each get only a few posts but they get enough to stay on the board, and most have image too so I’m not sure which good and unique threads you think are getting bumped so fast unless no one is posting on them in a whole week?

>>10230244
Strong agree.
We do all actually talk about shit besides salt, this is really just getting annoying.

1) NET IDOL THREADS DO NOT BELONG ON CGL
2) It grinds my gears that I have to abandon cgl as my homeboard, because I really don’t want to, but the days of quality cosplay threads are over. I used to sage and report the crossboarder men who make their own “WHERE DO I BUY A VAULT BOY COSTUME”’ threads but I don’t anymore, because what are they bumping off? A “brand appreciation” thread? Who cares. Inb4 “be the change that you want to see” — I’ve tried, I’ve made threads with dumps. But they don’t stand a chance anymore. Even the bad cosplay threads are weak, which, while mean, they really helped me learn what not to do when I make a cosplay. I guess it’s more a sadness of the community as a whole than the community on 4chan but...

Another reason is because lolitas are fucking hostile over everything as anons and it’s pathetic. Then they will hide behind the excuse that “it’s 4chan lul.” Maybe stop seeing the nitpicks when someone posts a comm pic and calling it a tradegy or disaster? Maybe stop using “projecting” as a critique on someone’s critique? Maybe simply answer newbie questions instead of adding dumbass or moron at the end? Gulls are just...not fun.

>>10230254
I think you misunderstand me. When I mention unique threads, what need to be taken into context is that CGL is a cosplay/lolita/larp board. I'm just a Lolita. A lot of these threads getting lost are not my interest, but I'm trying to be considerate in taking into account the cosplayers and larpers. And the regional threads, for that matter. God knows we could all use some local irl friends to bitch at.

>>10230256
Agreed. Other anon is correct in that the weather is unbearable for a lot of people, so we are probably saltier then usual, but do we really need this many different threads? I'm sure people have enough brains to track the post count and create a fresh one when needed.

antagonizing people who cant craft, weld, sew

When groups swear they're there to uplift and help one another, but only promote/ stan the same popular people or whoever can bring them clout. Then when the small content creators call them out, they're bullied into silence by all the popular people because "It's all equal, we just like them better"

The shit's annoying and needs to fucking stop. Just say you aren't trying to look at or help small content creators and delete the page

>>10230431
That's oddly specific sounding.

>>10230264
This is interesting, because as a lolita who isn't interested in cosplay, I recently noticed there aren't as many lolita threads as there used to be. I feel like we used to have brand appreciation threads more often, and besides that, a ton of regular jfashion threads that we don't have anymore or are hard to keep alive. I also see a lot of shitty advice in the dumb questions thread lately. I wonder if that's the same in the help thread.

>>10230431
This sounds like BTS fandom drama

>>10230266
>I'm sure people have enough brains to track the post count and create a fresh one when needed.
The person creating lolita generals doesn't have those brain cells

>>10230244
>redondent
Redundant

>>10230266
There are threads right now on the board that are over 30 days old. If your interest thread is falling off this Board with that slow of a turnover, then would have to say it is from lack of interest, not from a new thread stealing the place.

>>10230431
Sauce? If it's lolita, I would love to go support some newer, smaller content creators. I'm sure many others would too.

>>10230431

>content creators

that term is a plague on this earth.

>>10230248
>nugget of information or insight
What grinds my gears is fatties constantly whining they can't lose weight. Everyone can lose weight, you lazy stupid cunts. You won't because you're weak and have no self-control. Just fast.

>>10230457
The guys from bts also hate fatties, but not their money.

>>10230190
How the entire fucking world is turning functionally illiterate, no one knows the difference anymore between
>they're/their/there
>you're/your
>lose/loose
>quite/quiet
etc.
Nowadays you see cunts all over the place claiming they're BALLING THEIR EYES OUT.
IT'S BAWLING, YOU RETARDS! YOU'RE BAWLING YOUR EYES OUT. AND YOU SHOULD, AND SUE WHATEVER SHITHOLE SCHOOL LET YOU GRADUATE.
I know it's bad in place like Baltimore after more than sixty years of democrat rule, but Jesus fuck, the internet has spell checkers.

>>10230573

NAYRT, but just to add, it's rarely an ESL thing. So don't even pull that excuse.

People not fully reading a post, then replying to be bitchy and salty about their complete misinterpretation.

EG:
> I just moved to a new area and I'm so excited that there's a comm here!
> Wow, you moved to a new town just to join a lolita community? Fucking idiot.

If you're not going to bother to read properly, then don't even bother to reply.

>>10230573
yep, agreed.

>>10230630
I think people are just really into getting high off of outrage.

>>10230573
Spell checkers lead me astray more often then not. Sometimes I will leave in the misspelled word because it ruins the sentence less then the correctly spelled incorrect word. And I agree with >>10230589 anon; I'm literally the second generation born here in America and people who've been hear since the 1700s complain my speech is to elaborate in it's vocabulary and that by using precise words to describe concepts I am "showing off".

Grinding my Gears currently; Cancel Culture is a pile of hipocracy. Youtuber was talking about today how she's moving away from trying to encourage group movements and only going with personal boycotts. I agree with this because after looking into it, most mass / social media-backed boycotts choose weird targets. Like, without getting into a long rant; there are design houses that worked directly with the SS and the Nazi party. Never "canceled". Some living designer says stupid red pill shit but harms no body and it's OMG FOR THE WELLFARE OF EVERYONE!!!

>>10230669

I'm thinking the misspellings are intentional, but I can barely understand your word salad anyways, so much for using precise terms to clearly communicate ideas.

>>10230449
It could apply to nearly every alt group online desu

>>10230457
Ew no, I actually can't stand BTS....

>>10230513
It is not Lolita unfortunately, sorry anon. But it can apply to those lovely salty bitches too

>>10230557
You'll live.

>>10230573
May I add
>trolling the sales for my dream dress
It's "trawling", like a sea trawler. You're combing through posts for something, not posting dumb shit for reactions.

>Could/Should/Would OF
What you're trying to communicate is a contraction of [Could/Should/Would + HAVE] which is could've/should've/would've. Jesus fuck actually listen to yourselves talk.

>>10230669
Too many mistakes to take seriously, especially given the humblebragging about how your diction is ~tOo eLoQUeNt FoR noRmiES~

>>10230694
NAYRT but could of, should of, and would of is a form of AAVE so technically anon is right

So Buster swords and huge ass wings are allowed in cons but Selfie sticks is where we draw the line

>>10230820
Is it actually aave or do you jist want to use that term to look cool? It's just a figure of speech.
Shoulda coulda woulda

you really want to know what grinds my gears
not having a lolita or cosplay gf, that grinds my gears
(not that it matters anymore, I think I keep paying for hookers...)

>>10230820

Wow isn't it a little racist to assume only black people would make this particular 'alternate spelling'? That sounds pretty insulting to them considering I've seen all sorts of people make this mistake.

>>10231012
SJWs love to backhandedly insult the people they want to protect. Kind of like how they think voter ID laws are racist because they think minorities are too stupid to obtain one.

>>10231012
>>10231019
Lol it's racist because I pointed out that it's a form of aave....
knowing full well that many Americans use aave intentional or not....

Ok.

This isn't an unpopular opinion by any means, but can people stop doing "casual" cosplays aka cosplayers wearing an unstyled cheap wig, with a shirt that says GAY BOTTOM, and shitty eyeliner

>>10231137
>with a shirt that says GAY BOTTOM
ok i lold
Reminds me of a Doctor Strange cosplayer i saw where his red cape had 'Supreme' patterned all over

>>10231126

This is veering into way off topic territory, but I looked it up quickly, and it appears the first recorded usage was in a letter by a white British woman. So certainly not exclusive to AAVE, it is a mistake common to English speakers, particularly native ones.

And before you go on that Bronte made mistakes, yup she did. She also did not have the resources for English and grammar that we do now. Also, this is why we have editors (JK Rowling).

To keep it on topic, the abuse of instagram tags grinds my gears. Even classic lolita is littered with selfies, which makes it all around terrible for finding new accounts. Wish we had our own platform, and now I have the money I would fund something like lacebook.

>>10230694
Trolling is also a form of fishing tho...

>>10230694
Trolling also has the meaning of 'searching systematically' from the pre-internet days.

>>10231137
>with a shirt that says GAY BOTTOM

This. Especially at fujos in closet BNHA cosplay. I have nightmares of eyeshadow scar Todorokis and Dekus with that awful black and green amazon wig.

Not even an unpopular opinion, I can't stand it when summertards make threads for things that don't need their own damn thread. Don't make a new thread to show off just your cosplay, do it in the self post thread or make a self post thread

>>10231137
In addition, can we please cut it out with the rainbow everything? Like they ok I get it you’re LGBT, but that flag you’re wearing like a cape is no excuse for being an asshole to literally everyone and then getting butthurt when they call you on the bullshit.
Go home, rethink your life, develop a personality that extends beyond who you like to fuck and the act thereof.

Beating a dead horse but can we just agree on a set spectrum of PMS codes for sax, lav, and pink already?! I’m so fucking sick of having warm and cool undertones being spread around so liberally like an albino person putting on sunscreen. Drives me insane!

>>10230573
To be fair, on the internet many people speak English as a second language, and their literacy varies.

Angelic Pretty's OPs.

Why do they make high waist with 10yr olds in mind? When you wear it, it becomes empire line. Or worst, slips over a boob if you lift an arm?

>>10232706
They make them with totally flat chested asian girls in mind, since that's their main clientele

>>10232706
Most Japanese or and Asian girls don't have cow tits. Small breasts != 10 years old

>>10232735
I hear ya but there are more asian clientele outside of JP or China, they have their shops in Paris and USA for crying out load. They've shipped overseas for a decade, surely their market research is an indication?

>>10232738
I ain't a ham beast and thank f*ck I don't have boob loaf, but their OPs aren't helping my cause. Inb4 wear a better cut like a JSK, impossibru, I live in the southern hemisphere, no choice but to OP.

>>10232815

>>10232735
>>10232815
Typo : More than

Insanity over weight and looks in general. There are times where i understand wherre they re coming from because no effort is put in whatsoever bad damn..

People asking how I did a certain costume/armour, when there’s loads of progress posted and there’s easy access to tutorials of all kinds. Especially foam.
People seem to have forgotten how to use search engines.

Photos of prints with color filters.

> see cute outfit
> omg, that shade of mocha is absolutely fucking perfect
> need.jpg
> looking for more pics
> it's never been a thing
> ...

>>10231137
What's your take on outfits meant to belnd on but still have fun in the cosplay spirit. Like wearing Simon's jacket and goggles but no wig and casual pants or wearing a karate go just cause it's different or just throwing on a random Suit and wig?


All these outfits would get lost in the sea con goers and would not catch your eye, would you take issue with them?

>>10230264
>Maybe stop using “projecting” as a critique on someone’s critique? Maybe simply answer newbie questions instead of adding dumbass or moron at the end?
Both of those are 80% one very aggressive troll who has been shitting up the same 4 generals since the beginning of this year. If you choose to stay around, please report it when you see it.

I can't stand fairy kei most of the time. It looks cheap and tacky and the people who wear it seem like the kind who run 'nonsexual littlespace' tumblr blogs. Most western menhera/yamikawaii is awful too, but that's mostly because western menhera brands sell shitty and cheap looking fairy kei and just slap a syringe on it.

>>10233951
Agree. It attracts the most insufferable of people like fakebois and nasty looking weeb fatties.

Fakebois, genderspeshul people, and 'queers' are multiplying like when emo became popular, worst thing is that the public is starting to cater to them, trying to make it acceptable/within the norm

>Deadpool cosplayers
>Broadway cosplayers (especially the easy ones like Dear Evan Hansen)
>signs of cosplayers are outright banned at some cons (press F for the Persona 5 Battle menu guys)
>waiting to announce guests at the very last minute (like three days before the con)
>horribly organized lines
>to an extent, cosplaying as characters from western animation, but I’ve seen some that have gotten asked to take pictures multiple times by some people, so what do I know)

Used to be hashtagIStandWithVic but now, Both sides of the Vic argument have become fucking insufferable to the point to that I just want the court to handle the rest of the case with the court issuing a goddamn gag order on information leaking out until everything is done, regardless of the outcome.

>>10234485
>Broadway cosplayers
Why would people do such a thing?

>>10234492
I’ve seen cosplayers cosplay from Hamilton and Dear Evan Hansen at ALA, but that’s about it.

>>10234497
That's fucking bizarre.

>>10234492
Some of them have really cool costumes, like Phantom of the Opera or Wicked

>>10234492
>>10234502
You really didn’t see all the Hamilton shitters at cons a few years ago?

>>10234558
No, I saw a guy in Napoleonic dress at Acen but he was white so I didn't connect the two.

>>10234492
I think they're ok at comic cons/ cons for multiple fandoms, but make no sense at anime cons.

My gripe is people who go to anime cons when they don't watch anime or cosplay anime. Why are you at Anime Expo if you're just going to cosplay Disney? Can you not handle not getting attention for a weekend? (I'm not referring to people who wear a non anime costume one day, I'm talking about people who legitimately don't care about anime but go to cosplay non anime stuff)

People cosplaying IRL people like youtubers. Shit is weird.

>>10234862
>Youtuber

I remember attending my first Comic Con and Markiplier had one big ass booth complete with a ceiling high tarpoline in the smack middle of the convention center

People who get up in arms about likes/social media stats. It makes people seem so "high school" placing emphasis and value on likes, especially in the context of things like "how did this CoF post that i dislike get 500 likes???"

shit like this 10/10 grinds my gears

Fat lesbian lolitas.

>>10230199
Because fat people are uggo, simple as that
nobody wants to look at some butterbeast

Popular/efame lolitas in my comm who posts their lolita on fetish forums

>>10234862
The whole “fandoms” that have risen to be around youtubers and bands like BTS are really fucking weird. Most kids will shit themselves if you dare draw two cartoons fucking but then will turn around and tweet about their fantasies of Egoraptor making out with a kpop boy or some shit. Real people are characters and characters are real people in their minds.

>>10230199
well the others are right, anonymous boards are the only place you can say someone doesn’t look good because they’re fat. it wouldn’t fly on CoF/insta/FB.

it’s called elegant gothic lolita for a reason and there’s nothing elegant about being overweight, especially not obese. it’s extremely frustrating to see something so cute on the japanese models look so wrong on people who just don’t fit and won’t lose weight (or seem to try) before buying the clothes.

like, why try to dress so nice when you don’t take care of your body?

>>10235168
name and shame

People thinking they need to be apart of "fandoms" to enjoy something. FFS just cosplay with your friends and call it a day.
Fandoms are rooted in too much drama and fake justice bullshit. Not to mention all the fucking kids in them. It's so upsetting to see people give up on a series because the fandom got so out of control they don't want to be associated with it.

When you want to cosplay a character because the design is cool but their personality is shit and you don't want to be associated with it.

>>10235210
>anonymous boards are the only place you can say someone doesn’t look good because they’re fat. it wouldn’t fly on CoF/insta/FB.

Because it's not constructive and has nothing to do with critiquing the actual clothes on them, which should be the point of discussing a fashion. I can't think of any other fashion groups that discriminate based on weight nearly as much as western jfash does.

>>10235499
Actually, many fat people in lolita don’t wear clothing that fits and critiquing that is completely relevant. And

>I can't think of any other fashion groups that discriminate based on weight nearly as much as western jfash does

Is just ridiculous and shows you don’t know much about fashion outside of niche alt fashions that got infested with people from tumblr. There are more than plenty of fashion communities that look down harshly on fat people, especially those within the higher end range.

>>10235499
that’s because other fashions don’t have as much of a problem of people squeezing into clothes that don’t fit them. lolita is based around specific brands and their items, it’s not just a “style”

>>10235502
The correct critique for that would be to buy a larger size dress. Not "ur too fat lol"

>>10235504
>lolita is based around specific brands and their items, it’s not just a “style”
It is, in fact, just a style (more specifically, a silhouette). There's plenty of lolitas who wear little to no burando and still achieve the correct style. Get over yourself.

>Enter a legit seeming cosplay contest with cash prize and cosplayer judges
>Spend a lot of time and money making costume
>No actual costume inspecting took place
>Winner commissioned her props
>Winner had a sword when no weapon props were allowed

Why

>>10235559
Did you talk to the organizers about it? They may not rescind her win but it might make them more conscious of these things next time

Closet. of. Asspats.

>>10230264
>/cgl/ is a board for the following:

>Cosplay
>J-fashion
>Conventions & gatherings

Cosplay dance groups are discussed in the net idol thread, oftentimes solo idols wear J-fash, and most net idol lives happen at conventions (where they hold whole idol festivals).

People like you grind my gears, it’s one thread on the whole board, I get if you were complaining about the drag thread that happens from time to time but the net idol thread belongs and is here to stay.

How hypocritical weebs are.
Lolitas are too but weebs take it to the extreme.

Lolitas that wear a full coord complete with some outerwear then skimp on a petticoat because it was 'too hot to wear'. You're wearing lolita and of all things choose not to wear the one piece that makes your outfit what it is?

Ap fags on here, just make an ap general and be done with it

>>10235621
Weebs are degenerates no matter how much they go on about how progressive they are imo. Also really tired of all the sjw tumblrina teens coming out of the shadows and thinking some random anime character is trans now because they said so and if you argue with them you deserve to be canceled.

>>10230244
I feel this so hard. I don't understand why people hate fast-moving generals so much. This is a really slow board. It's not like having questions and such about different parts of Lolita in the general would be so bad.

>>10235660
>weeb
>progressive
Pick one.
You will never find anyone with a decently high power level that acts like this. It's always people with extremely entry-level taste.

>>10235232
>It's so upsetting to see people give up on a series because the fandom got so out of control they don't want to be associated with it.

nah it's sort of the trash taking itself out honestly, if they can't intrinsically like the thing without inserting themselves into some kind of community or circlejerk, then they must not really like the thing itself much at all

Obese fatty-chans who stretch dresses to death and for some reason expect special treatment. You're not better than anyone else for stuffing your gut into a cute dress.

>inb4 lol so salty
I fucking am because people like that are insufferable. When I realized being obese simply comes from constantly stuffing your face with junk it grosses me out whenever I see a fatty. It also means they have 0 self control which reflects in other parts of their lives too.

>>10230573
if their English upsets you, don't loose you're cool or your gonna get laughed at four being trolled easily

>>10235597
god forbid lolitas actually compliment each other

>>10235634
And the ones who don't wear socks or blouses because of the heat. At that point, they just shouldn't wear lolita at all during the summer. It's okay to take a break.

>>10235947
>being obese simply comes from constantly stuffing your face with junk
Suddenly there's no such thing as diseases and medications that cause weight gain

>>10235964
i love seeing outfits like these! but there is a line at which an outfit loses enough of the lolita elements that it stops being appropriate to post to CoF etc. still lamenting that the alamode comms never took off

i don't mind the word "coord" online but hate hearing it spoken. nobody ever (at least where i am from) pronounces it with more than one syllable so it always comes out as "I LIKE YOUR KORD"

just say "coordinate" or even "outfit" ffs if you can't make "coord" not sound so harsh

>>10235966
That's an excuse.
I have gained weight from meds, depression and hypothyroidism and still managed to get rid of it by having some backbone and determination because I wanted to look my best while wearing pretty clothes.

>>10236072
>have a factual reason for something
>that's an excuse
Science isn't an excuse. Not everyone has an amazing self healing body like you do.

THAT THE SHOES/CLOTHESJACKETS I WANT ARE SEEMINGLY NEVER IN FUCKING STOCK AND I CANT FIND IT SECOND HAND OR ONLY FOUND IT SECOND HAND FOR A RIDICULOUS PRICE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH I WANT THEM DAMN IT AAAAAAAAAAAHH

>>10236167
Put the fork down. Wow weight gain avoided. If something is causing you to gain weight then change your eating habbits to avoid it from happening. People make every excuse they can because they don't want to fast or do anything to reduce their intake of food. The ftis materialized from nothing, consider what you eat and how much and incorporate fasting into your life. There is a lot of research and information to safe and proper fasting. ALL fatties should fast.

>>10236183
>The ftis materialized from nothing,
*the fat isn't materialized from nothing

Gender specials that get real crazy if you misgender them. Conventions are full of them and you have to walk on eggshells to make sure you don't set off them and their group of defenders.
Them being in cosplay doesn't make it any easier.

>>10236167
Reminds me of those people who expect those with autism and adhd to function like a completely normal person because "you can't blame things that go wrong on your disorder".

>>10236186
An eating disorder is fixed by paying attention to your diet and exercise. If you want to blame your medications and genetics for your bad metabolism fine, I get it, but that doesn't mean you can not adjust your diet and lifestyle to compensate for it. Tried a diet and it doesn't seem to be working? Examine why. Keep a food diary and track what you ate, how much, how often. Depending on how fat you are or how quickly you gain weight, have certain day (s) you fast.

>>10236187
"you can't blame having an eating disorder on your eating disorder!"

>>10236189
>If you want to blame your medications and genetics for your bad metabolism fine, I get it, but that doesn't mean you can not adjust your diet and lifestyle to compensate for it.

>>10236189
If you have an eating disorder then do whatever is needed to conquer it. It is not like its an impossible feat.

>>10236189
We do not encourage anorexic people to keep up their anorexic lifestyles just because they have an eating disorder. We don't look at anorexic patients and say "well you clearly have an eating disorder. Guess you can't do anything about it!"

>>10236190
>>10236194
>>10236198
I don't have an eating disorder, I just think your advice is dumb and short sighted.

>>10236189
Thats not what that anon is saying at all. They are saying if you have an eating disorder you can adjust your eating habbits and lifestyle. Yeah, no shit your eating disorder is to blame. Do something about it, fatty.

>>10236200
Its not at all, its the logical conclusion. Have an eating disorder? You need to adjust your life to overcome it. Will it be easy? No. Will you be better off trying to get better rather than throw your arms up and give up? Yes.

>>10236201
They literally said that's no excuse.

>>10236200
>what about eating disorders
>one must actively do something about it. Be strict on your diet, get help, try to have more will power, fast, you have to change your lifestyle if you want to conquer your disorder and stick to it
>>>>dumb and short sighted

>>10236205
They literally did not

>>10236205
If by "excuse" you mean you are excused from trying, then no, it absolutely is not an excuse.

>>10236205
>can't fucking read

>>10235966
>diseases and medications that cause weight gain
Ah yes, those diseases and medications that suddenly, magically put on pounds and pounds of weight and your diet has absolutely nothing to do with it. You could totally stop eating at all and these diseases and medications will materialize the fat from no where, right? Get real. If you are gaining weight you are eating too much, even if your disease/medication/etc makes you gain weight faster, the solution is to adjust your diet and lifestyle. Always.

Weight-obsessed anons: it's none of your business why I'm fat, or how long I keep these pounds on. It's mine.
I have pride and shame, which keep me wearing quality things that actually fit and flatter, so that I'm not constantly ripped a new asshole every time I'm posted and people can crit my artistic expression and success of my coords instead of my body.
It would be great if people just backed the fuck off and stopped projecting their inner body horror anxieties onto me.
It's an obvious personal problem for you if you get triggered every time you see someone overweight. I'm alive and working on many facets of myself everyday. You have no clue what hell I've come from.
But, do understand, that the kinder and more merciful you are to others will bode well for you if/when your body changes and you happen to gain (more) weight.
My self-valuation lies in many things beyond my weight and width. I'm not going to an hero or rubberband into unhealthily restrictive eating patterns just to not be made fun of.
I can endure bullying, as awful as it can be. You wouldn't be able to handle a lick of this, though--being kicked while down. If something went wrong in your life and you gained considerable weight, you would absolutely disintegrate.
Putting me down for being fat will not make you thinner or prettier, and it certainly won't shield your body from changing and developing in ways outside of your immediate control.

Good luck with your mental health journeys. It's better for you and your well-being to not exude such pointed negativity.
It's lose-lose behaviour: your destructive disdain has terrible effects on your inner person, and won't do a damn thing to push my weight loss along.
If you're so concerned about my health, offer a listening ear and spiritual/emotional support. That would actually do me good. But, being honest, your intention isn't to be helpful, it's to unburden yourself of strong and terrifying insecurities.
Fucking weak.

>>10236224
fatty cope; the post

>>10236231
cute! and very mature!!

>>10236224

Holy shit. You know you can just keep to your safe space right?

>>10236209
>>10236210
>>10236212
>>10236072
You're right, she said it is an excuse

>>10236224

Your obesity puts strain on various social systems.

Fatty.

>>10236224
>My self-valuation lies in many things beyond my weight and width
You could be improving your psychical health too, there is no reason not to. Why not be the best version of yourself, your weight and width included?
> I'm not going to an hero or rubberband into unhealthily restrictive eating patterns
Your over indulgence is an unhealthy eating pattern. You are more at risk for all kinds of health complications just by simply being fat. You going on a good diet and exercise routine is not going to harm you, your current fat body is harming you.

>>10236264
>psychical
**physical

>>10236224
Its bad for you, its bad for society, its just bad in all aspects. There are 0 personal and societal benefits to being fat. Please lose weight.

>gulls falling for fatty bait

>>10236185
I go to lots of conventions and interacted with trans people and so on, and this has literally never happened to me or happened in my earshot. Why do you even need to refer to someone's gender in a casual conversation? This seems like a made up problem

the crossdressing general which reeks of lowkey fetishization instead of people who just want to wear nice cosplay
autogynephilia was a mistake

>>10236295
this entire board is fetishization

>>10236303
theres people posting nice cosplays and coords and offering criticism
and then theres the crossdressing general where they jerk each other off saying they get off to the confused looks they get when using the bathroom
though i guess it makes a nice containment general, but needing to have one at all for these weirdos is sad

When girls crossplay and their fat tits are still visible.

If I wanted to avoid this myself what would you suggest I purchase?

lolitas taking over cgl grinds my gears. they've ruined this board and have turned into a ghetto. We need cosplayers to gentrify this board and bring back some class to this ghetto, trashy, lolita filled cesspool.

>>10236315
A chest binder. The larger your chest the less effective it will be but if your tits aren't huge you should get a decent reduction. Be careful with it though because if you don't know what you're doing you can seriously hurt yourself.

>>10236322
>calling lolita trashy when cosplayers are out here with their ass cheeks flapping about.
Not only that, most cosplay content here is incels complaining about costhots and planning sexual escapades.
On that note, i wish lolitas didn't have to rely so much on this board because facebook is so shit.

>>10236327
Really anon, you are responding to obvious bait.

>>10236224
/fit/ here, checking in and Loving Every Laugh!

>>10236277
>its bad for society
Not them but please explain this? Theres loads of fatties where I live and my environment is fine....

>>10236224
>layygz

>>10236231
Criminally underrated reply

>>10236392
Strain on healthcare systems, can't be recruited into the military or police force(cops get fat only after they join, you are not allowed to become a cop if you're too fat), disgusting to see in public.

>>10236473
Oh also, fat people are less effective workers in the workforce as their health puts them out of work.

>>10236224
This post grinds my gears. Put fork down, fatty.

>>10236392
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3047996/

>>10236224
Unpopular opinion but as long as your shit fits you do you. I personally do not think we should accept people being fat but if you're going to be fat at least look as good as you can in that condition until you can get your life together and get healthy

>>10236345
Post abs pls

>>10236183
No one should have to literally starve themselves to lose weight. There are healthy ways that don't make you feel like you're dying.

>>10236550
fasting doesnt make you feel like you are dying, either.

>>10236293
Because I refuse to refer to a single person as “they”
Is she 5 people? No. He or she gets a singular pronoun. Pick one

>>10236565
what if someone's intersex and they don't want to choose a gender? check mate retard

>gulls who sperg out over an otherwise great coord because the wearer is fat
>gulls who sperg at an otherwise great coord because while the replica is a pattern replica and not a print replica it's a replica nonetheless
>gulls who have never interacted with actual lolitas outside of 4chan so when they meet them irl they start being embarassingly salty and making a nice outing awkward
>gulls who have one nice casual coord and suddenly won't stop talking shit about people while everyone is at the same gathering
>gulls who can't ever compliment someone without nitpicking someone else
>gulls who spend the aftermath of every meet and party searching for pics to post to /cgl/
>gulls so obsessed with in-jokes with an audience of four people max that they post them to btb
>gulls who get aggressive with normies for relatively harmless things like staring
>gulls who rip apart coords while their wardrobe consists of a replica they don't wear out and one brand piece that they don't yet have a coord for
>gulls who can't bear to keep their incredibly safe and common political opinions to themselves as if they'll die if they talk about something else

>>10236256
Shoveling junk in your facehole and getting fat and then blaming "muh meds and genetics" is retarded. That's what I mean it's an excuse.

>>10236224
Your jelly donut gut is draining the NHS of resources you degenerate, fix it

>>10233951
Forever this.

what grinds my gears? I work really hard to make an accurate costume that's high-quality and detail-oriented and the fucking crossover/mashup cosplay bullshit gets more attention.

>>10236585
Was coming here to post this. Next time I have to wait 5 hours at A&E I'll know who to blame.

>>10236576
>gulls who have one nice casual coord and suddenly won't stop talking shit about people while everyone is at the same gathering
Elaborate? What about casual makes people talk shit?

>>10236576
This sounds like it's a post about someone specific/a few specific people? Please elaborate and quench my thirst for drama

>>10236574
That's not how being intersex works dumbass. You're still either male or female.
>>10236576
pattern replicas are bad and the people who wear them should feel bad

>>10236183
>Put the fork down. Wow weight gain avoided
That didn't work for me. It's not that simple for everyone. I plateaued after just 5 lbs. Didn't matter what I ate or how much I worked out.
You don't know shit.

>>10236634
Why do you care so much what other people self identify as? It can't affect you this much in reality. Outrage culture has fucked you up mentally.

>>10236680
Don't bother anon, you won't be able to convince or educate them. Their hate for fatties sounds like more than the usual dislike or anything rational.
That being said, plateaus are fucking horrible. I've lost 65 lbs and the biggest reason why it took my almost a decade to reach my goal weight was plateaus and the mental health aspects. The longest plateau was 8 months when I was around -45lbs and it was insufferable. But there's nothing much you can do than wait and play around with changes in your food and sport routine. If you haven't already, also get your thyroid checked. Everytime someone posts "just put the fork down", I assume they never tried to loose a serious amount of weight.

>>10236574
That's rarely ever the case lmao
It's always girls that want to avoid being girls without being labeled a fakeboi
I can understand why they'd hate being a girl but running away from it is not the answer.

>>10236585
I've literally never been to the hospital for anything other than stitches I needed once as a teen.
I go to the doctor for a physical twice a year. My private health insurance is through my full-time job, which I partially pay for. I'm not on any medications and never have been. My family didn't believe in psychiatry or therapy so I grew up using food to deal with my horribly abusive home situation, as well as the anxiety and depression that came with it. I've lost 50 pounds since 2016. I'm still overweight and I'm still healing from the violent roots of my overeating.
But, don't worry anon, I'll put a rush on fixing all of this just for you!
Get over yourselves.

>>10236689
> I assume they never tried to loose a serious amount of weight.

This is the reality. People who don't have to lose 40+ lbs shouldn't give advice to people who do. Leave that to doctors and professionals. "put down the fork fatty" amounts to "stop injecting drugs druggie". It's more complicated than that, Steven.

>>10236622
>>10236593
>gulls with poor reading comprehension
>gulls who ask for identifying details on /cgl/

>>10236634
>gulls who are boringly salty

>>10236713

Don't give personal detail to a stranger on /cgl/.

>>10233951
I can't stand western current fairy kei but back in it's heyday it was great. Menhera and yume/yami kawaii is pure trash.

Menhera and Yami kawaii is for 13 year olds and yumekawaii is rejected fairy kei and anything else.

>>10236550
Fasting is not "literally starving yourself" and it is a perfectly natural and healthy practice for humans to do. There are many studies that show it has health benefits. You are so addicted to eating you think going 20 hours without a meal is starving yourself. Disgusting.

>>10236736
>"put down the fork fatty" amounts to "stop injecting drugs druggie". It's more complicated than that, Steven.
But that is the reality. It takes will power but a druggie needs to stop injecting drugs just like you need to incorporate fasting, proper diet and exercise. Fasting works. Its the most effective method to lose weight. Period. The problems happen when you break your fast with way more calories than you think you need and put the weight back on. The solution is STILL put the fork down, and KEEP the fork down. If you are trying to lose 40 lbs eat ONLY what you need. Do not spoil yourself.

>>10236736
>Leave that to doctors and professionals.
Ok, sure. According to doctors and professionals and studies therapeutic fasting(that is when you fast every other day) the patients lost 30-90 lbs within 2 months. The problems happens when patients don't stick to their diets. It isn't that the diet plans aren't working, its that the patients give it up and go right back to their bad eating habits.

>>10236736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIuj-oMN-Fk

You don't even need to exercise, you just need to stop fucking eating so much. You hate being told put the fork down because its all you actually need to do to lose large amounts of weight and you are so addicted to eating you think your fat ass is going to starve to death if you fast. You literally store fat because your body is preparing for hard times when food isn't available for long periods of time.

>>10236795
Have you ever stopped to wonder what makes people relapse? Why people stop healthy habits and start up unhealthy ones? Why do people do hedonistic things even when they're harmful? There's more to physiology than our ability to do x y and z. There's a host of mental (addiction, maladaptive coping, boredom, self-sabotage) and physical hurdles (fucked up ghrelin and leptin levels, metabolism, thyroid, insulin issues, etc) that cause people to behave in all sorts of illogical ways.

Most people don't choose a harder life because it's fun or because they want to be drains on society. The sooner people learn empathy, the sooner we may be able to solve these societal issues that only keep getting worse, despite diet culture or fat bashing or whatever else self aggrandizing solution people cook up. Fasting is a great solution to SOME people's weight problems, but it could also just as easily make things worse for others. This is a multifaceted issue that no amount of sperging about putting down forks can solve.

>>10236799
I've been fasting on and off for years, but thanks for your concern. I'm on a 24 hour water fast right now. Fasting doesn't cure the binging cycles. It doesn't cure my self-sabotaging behavior. It only works to make me momentarily slimmer, up until I relapse for more reasons than I care to share here.

So fuck you for assuming you're sitting on a golden egg of information. The only solution I've found is painfully slow therapy that marks progress in months to years, not fasting.

>>10236806
>Fasting doesn't cure the binging cycles. It doesn't cure my self-sabotaging behavior
That is true, fasting does stop you from relapsing into your bad habits. It merely heals you from the destruction your bad habits caused you. Which is still very important. That doesn't mean fasting doesn't work, it just means you relapsed much like a drug addict relapsed. The solution is will power and that is all you can do. If you can not muster it then you deserve to be a fat fuck and the only thing to blame is yourself.

>>10236811
doesn't stop you*

>>10236806
A 24 hour water fast is fucking nothing. Don’t act like it’s some huge deal. People can fast for a week healthily, and some people regularly do at the advice of doctors. My mother was advised by her doctor to do a week long fast for a medical reason unrelated to weight and it went fine. You’re weak.

>>10236814
>A 24 hour water fast is fucking nothing.
This. I hate it when people act like a 24 hour fast is a huge accomplishment. Its the bare minimum. Anything less than that is not even real fasting.

>>10236811
>This just in folks: being thin is the end-all and solution! Losing weight will magically cure you at the root of all your issues!

what a high, ignorant horse you sit on, with no justification at all.
why is rehab a thing for drug addicts, if all you can do is rely on will-power for a cold turkey method?
you really are painfully ignorant and out-of-touch. like, you really know nothing about people or the nuances of basic human psychology. Are you seriously okay with being so deficient?

stop trying to reason with mentally ill ana-chans.
it's not going to work.

>>10236818
This sure is ironic because the person struggling with binging and being fat straight up admitted to being mentally ill in this thread.

>>10236816
It’s mainly fats that do this because they have no self restraint so going a day without shoveling food into their mouth in forklift sized bites is a big deal to them

>>10236811
Fasting doesn't heal you, it just forces your body to use the stored fat deposits because you go into ketosis. It isn't magic.

Will power is a limited resource, and not something everyone excels at accessing. What actually helps are coping strategies that actually work for you, because something only helps if you can do it long term. You shouldn't rely on will power to have sustained behavior changes. If you look at normal weight, non-food-obsessive people, being satiated isn't a struggle that requires will power for them.

>>10236823
>Fasting doesn't heal you,
It literally trigger autophagy.

>>10236816
>>10236814
Skipping breakfast is fasting. Eating once a day is fasting. Fasting isn't hard, but it's not the be end solution to obesity you absolute dunces.

Your mother doing a week long fast for a medical issue shouldn't be the starting line if you want to apply to normal people. I can't believe how warped your minds are.

>>10236827
>Eating once a day is fasting
No, it is not substantial enough for ketosis to actually do its work, especially for the obese and overweight. You need to fast for at least 48 hours.

>>10236827
Your mind is the only one warped if you think a 24 hour fast is in any way difficult or extreme. And I gave that as an example to show just how normal it is, not to say a 7 day fast is a “starting line.” You’re beyond retarded.

>>10236830
You do know that intermittent fasting is still fasting, right? You also don't even need to fast to go into ketosis. Eating keto will do that in 48 hours too. There's more benefits to fasting than just going into ketosis.

>>10236827
Plenty of people who don’t have medical issues to week long fasts though?

>>10236832
I never said it was difficult or extreme, you assholes just assumed I thought that because I'm fat. Lmao. I mentioned it because apparently this board doesn't understand that fat people do fast, even if it's not the 48-168 hours that you want us to fast.

>>10236835
To be fair you sure do bitch about medical facts like a fat does, it’s easy to confuse you for one. And honestly if they’re fat they’re not fasting enough. Eating one meal a day means nothing if they binge on 2500+ calories for that meal they do eat.

>>10236833
>You do know that intermittent fasting is still fasting, right?
Its effective on people who are not obese, yes, but on the obese unless they do it every other day without fail they will not reap the benefits of IF. And the longer you fast, the more effective ketosis is.

>Fasting for just 12 - 16 hours can achieve ketosis, albeit at lower levels at about ~.05mM. But a 48-hour fast can boost ketone levels in the blood by 20x, between 1 - 2mM

>>10236841
Well, I'm fat but not obese. I'm like 20 lbs over weight and I'm slowly losing. Fasting intermittently works for me.

>>10236846
The confusion comes in when people think activating ketosis at 12-16 hours is the same as ketone levels at 48+ hours. Its not. The longer you fast the more you boost ketone levels in your blood.

>>10236846
Yeah you’re fat as shit and have no right to act like you’re knowledgeable on health related to weight. Listening to a fat person like you lecture others on weight loss is like listening to an alcoholic scolding someone for having a singular beer on the weekend.

>>10236565
when you're having a conversation with a single person why tf do you even need to refer to them in the third person? Just use their name even. Your scenario where people get angry at you all the time is either pure fiction or else you're just going around purposely being an asshole to people that you never needed to talk to in the first place, in which case you deserve it

>>10236850
Having personal experience is better than being a self-aggrandizing piece of shit that only finds comfort in judging perfect strangers on the internet. I'm not lecturing anyone, just offering a perspective that isn't just "HAHA FATS ARE SO DUM THEY CAN'T EVEN STOP EATING HAHA"

I guess not everyone grows out of the school yard bully phase.

>>10236856
Your personal experience means nothing if you’re still overweight. And even if your feelings are hurt by it, it IS just a matter of “fats can’t even stop eating.” The majority of people who were formally overweight gain it back within a 2 year timespan, so you having lost weight but STILL being 20lbs means fucking nothing. And it’s concerning that you think 20lbs overweight isn’t fucking startling. The “healthy weight range” for most heights is really large, an example is at my height my weight can fluctuate by 40lbs total and I can still be within the healthy weight limit. Your gluttony is blinding you to the severity of your situation.

>>10236846
>I'm like 20 lbs over weight and I'm slowly losing
Fast for longer periods, it'll be gone a lot quicker. Your only excuse not to is you don't want to go more than 48 hours without food.

>>10236858
>The majority of people who were formally overweight gain it back within a 2 year timespan, so you having lost weight but STILL being 20lbs means fucking nothing.

THIS THIS THIS. The only people who were overweight who’s opinions on weight loss are valid are those who got it off and kept it off for over 5 years. Most gain the weight back because they look at it as dieting, not a lifestyle change.

>>10236856
I hope you’re prepared to only eat every 48 hours for the rest of your life to maintain once you lose the weight.

>>10236858

This is why people are only getting fatter. There's no real layman understanding about what keeps people in yo-yo cycles, why people get overweight in the first place, or what keeps them there. Instead, we have assholes like you that parrot the same tired ass fat bashing responses ad nauseam. But you're the authority because you're slim, right? What a joke.

>>10236858
oh, so you're a more reliable authority over doctors. got it.

>>10236865
Me telling people facts about weight loss is why people keep getting fatter? You’re completely delusional. And yes, obviously, people who can maintain a normal weight know more than fat people on how to be a healthy weight and therefore have authority over the subject.

>>10236867
>>10236865
>authority authority!

Nice samefagging fattass-chan. No doctor would tell you you’re an expert on healthy weight if you’re overweight.

>>10236868
Parroting the idea that weight gain is as simple as calories in, calories out (put the fork down fatty) is how people gain the weight back after a few years. There's a little more to it than that and it's disingenuous to not acknowledge it. It keeps people from losing for good if they don't even have the tools to do it. Tools like therapy, unlearning bad habits, teaching ourselves new coping strategies, and etc.

I'm glad you had a normal childhood and weren't fat by the time you hit elementary school, but the rest of us have a lot of shit to unlearn and that takes time to accomplish.

>>10236865
>This is why people are only getting fatter.
No, its because they won't stop fucking eating. Me telling you you are fat and should fast is not magically putting the hamburgers into your mouth.

>>10236870
come on, this is just stupid now.

>>10236871
It’s not a matter of unlearning, it’s a matter of working on willpower. As soon as you learn about CICO you have the answer. Honestly you should check yourself into a mental hospital if you need a “coping stratagy” for putting down the fork. It is not the fault of average weight people that you lack self control.

>>10236871
>is how people gain the weight back after a few years.
Studies show its because they do not stick to their diets. They think they can do it temporarily and go right back to their bad eating habits.

>>10236874
>implying you can’t easily fake this


>>10236876
Careful now, you’re hurting their feelings with facts.

>>10236875
Is there something on this site that makes people have shit reading comprehension? I never blamed anyone for my problems. My problems are my problems, and I'm glad you don't deal with them. For ME, and probably not just me, learning about CICO, fasting, putting down the fork, will power, etc. was not the solution I needed. Yes, I have issues surrounding food/weight. I would say anyone who struggles with their weight has food related issues.

These "strategies" work for normal weight people who want to lose some extra weight. When you're fat, obese, morbidly obese... you need different strategies. That's all I'm saying. There's ingrained childhood habits, there's soothing rituals, there's disordered eating, there's fucked up chemical shit, etc. A host of issues that normal weight people don't have to deal with.

>>10236877
Okay conspiracy-chan.

>>10236879
You don’t need different strategies because if you ate like someone of a normal weight you would be a normal weight. It’s literally that simple, I’m not sure why you keep denying facts. And PLENTY of people who aren’t fat have childhood issues that impact them on a deep level, they just have self control to put the fucking fork down. If they can do it, you can too, but you’re too mentally weak to.

>>10236879
>you need different strategies
You need the those same strategies PLUS more will power than those people. The problem isn't the diet, the problem is YOU and YOUR inability so stop your self sabotaging behavior. Maybe you need therapy for it, but god damn if you do not follow a good diet plan you will not be losing weight with therapy.

every other thread getting derailed by fatty talk really grinds my gears

>>10236877
girl bye.
>>10236876
a diet is not something you're supposed to be on for the rest of your life. No one, and I mean no one, on this board knows what healthy is. do not take advice pertaining to your physical health from anyone on 4chan(nel).

>>10236886
>a diet is not something you're supposed to be on for the rest of your life
Yes, yes it fucking is. A good diet is ESSENTIAL to a healthy life, when you stray from proper diet you will suffer for it. You can adjust your diet, but you still need a proper diet to have a healthy body.

>>10236882
are you a literal child? people up thread already concluded and agreed with what you just figured out.

>>10236888
Gee, it's like a word can have two different meanings!
Go back to school, friendo.

>>10236882
Finally, someone who gets what I'm saying. Yeah you're totally right it's a me problem. I'm working on the me problem. Unfortunately, the me problem isn't as easy as waving a little fasting wand, and POOF I'm normal now! Obviously it's going to take more effort than that.

>>10236881

Let me put it to you this way, I'm 17. All my life I've been fat. I don't know how to eat normally, or obviously I would be. Therefore, I need help. A therapist can help me. If that makes me mentally weak, then ok.

>>10236891
Underageb& leave, this website is for adults.

>>10236890
It doesn't.
>diet
>the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats.
There are different kinds of diets, sure, but you absolutely need to stick to a good diet in order to remain healthy. When you are obese you need to have a stricter diet than normal people. Forever.

>>10236891
>I’m 17

This makes a lot of sense, you’re just a stupid kid talking about things you have no idea of.

>>10236889
There was a literal child defending why she was fat but now she’s banned

>it's another episode of mentally ill troll-chan who doesn't understand cgl language completely ruins a thread

>>10236801
Again, don't bother anon. You are completely right but they aren't going to listen or respond to it.

>>10236903
They are not "completely wrong". These fatties NEED to get their diets sorted out and STICK TO THEM. Maybe they are so fucked up they need therapy and other ways to cope, but its all for the sake of sticking to their diets.

Saying "just stop eating" is pretty much the same as telling a smoker to just put out the cigarette.

That shit ain't easy.

>>10236886

Are you actually serious.

You're right, no one should be taking advice from this board, including you.

>>10236916
Its not easy, but its the solution.

>gulls who turn a perfectly good thread into a detailed mess of anorexia-pushing and emotional sperging

Diet talk belongs on /fit/, you fucking idiots.

>>10236983
>anorexia-pushing
Telling people who are obese or overweight to fast is not "anorexia pushing".