/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10066484
If it's this short on this shorty, I don't even want to see it on the rest of you. Yuck. The good thing is, if it's anything like the Miku collab, it will be fixed size so we don't have to see hams stuffed into this

>>10066484
looks nothing like moitie

>>10066484
Why does it look white on the inside? Are they seriously using fabric that has black printed on it instead of being dyed, if that's even a thing?

>>10066515
Looks like it’s a subtle print rather than just black printed on white

>>10066515
Looks like a dark print of cloud or smoke or mist and then the inside is lighter as print fabric is. The hem fold contrast bothers me.

>>10066519
>>10066536
Oh, I can kinda see it now. Still, given that it's a Hi-Lo cut, it looks fucking awful. How Moitie has fallen.

>>10066544
I can’t blame them, I guess. One so-so token collab with a Chinese brand in order to open the gates of China for more future Moitie sales and events? It’s probably a good business move. Could have been worse, could have been souffle song.

I wish it was this print hiding under there.

>>10066552
I would totally buy a dress with this print.

>>10066580
The only one I like is the lemon dress. At least I'll be saving money this year I guess.

>>10066586
Sorry anon, didn't mean to reply.

>>10066586
I’m the most let down by the Fancy Candy print. This dress design is too simple for just a regular drop print.

>>10066592
The hem sewn badly makes it look a rather cheap.

>>10066606
>>10066592
The bodice also looks a bit large on her, check the right just under her armpit. (????)

I'm a bit bummed, these new releases are cute, but they seem shiny and the gathering a bit off.

What's happening, AP?

Anyone know why the princess rococo special set is literally almost twice the price of one of the other special sets?

>>10066587
That's actually really cute! Not sure how I feel about the long satin bow tails though.

>>10066606
>>10066610

It's Rinrin. I think she's too small for the clothes she models, so half the photos out there the clothes always look distorted, bunched up and lumpy in all kinds of weird ways. The photog staff probably have to pin the back of the dress to make it not look like she's swimming in them, so the clothes always look bunched up and frumpy.

>>10066630
>Rinrin
That's Risa, pic related is Rinrin.

>>10066586
All of the dresses are somehow really weird shaped... AP I'm disappointed. The prints are nice but all the cuts are bad.

>>10066633

Damn. My bad. Still the same small size person, right? Or did I mix that up too.

>>10066616

The fabric. Princess Rococo is a thicker fabric, I think it's gobelin, but I haven't seen it in person. Just basing this off the closeups that were in the shop, the fabric is very different from their other releases.

>>10066610
All their new dresses have been large and therefore baggy on smaller girls. Idk if it's the look they're going for but personally I hate it, AP please make more dresses that fit your models.

>>10066637
I'm not entirely sure but I think Risa is smaller and skinnier; she seems that way in her modeling jobs for Larme, anyway.

>>10066642

Yeah, sounds about right. I think I just have their names backwards. All I really remember is if the model is the tiny pissy one then the dress always looks a mess but will actually be okay in person. Thanks for the correction.

>>10066644
Np. I'm just a bit confused about why they keep using Risa. Sure she's cute, and maybe she's still popular, she doesn't suit lolita at all, the clothes look overbearing on her more often than not, and I don't even mean sizing wise which is also a problem.

>>10066646

Same. I figure her following must be huge if they keep using her, maybe the dresses really do sell better when she's modelling them? idk, it's not like we have the sales figures to compare. I think she looked pretty decent in AP when she first started modelling for them, but lately anything with her in it tends to look like a mess.

What brand is pic related?

I'm looking for that dress through the guests/brands listed rn and they look so different from the usual lolita fashion posted on cgl. interesting.
>>10066655

Anyway looks like I already found it's Hakuchosya so sorry for stupid question
>>10066656

>>10066630
I understand the size issue however it looks like actual bad sewing on the hem rather than an illfitting dress.

Why does the JSK on the right look so much cuter than the one on the left? Isn't it the exact same dress?

>>10066673
To be honest they look equally horrible to me but the right one has a blouse and no petticoat which makes a difference

>>10066673
On the left has a petticoat and a brtter background/ lighting. Where is this from? It's cute.

>>10066592
Yet another lazy patterned print that makes me think: “yeah, this is cute, but not pay-full-price cute”
*sigh* get it together AP.

>>10066678
Riddle Sheep. The first pic is from Physical Drop's webshop. I wanted it in green but it's sold out. I think they will re-stock though, the first time I saw that JSK was in red 2 years ago. She just makes them by herself very slowly I guess.

>>10066678
twitter.com/futondeneyou

>>10066586
I know the wigs are really questionable but I like them anyway.

>>10066639
it's from the same fabric as classic fairytales. It's sturdier with a proper structure.

>>10066587
I feel like I'd like this more if it were coordinated differently. Feels too Ott for a casual fruit print

>>10066659

I'm gonna write that down to Risa magically making it look weird as well.

Here she is in Wonder Patisserie with a funky puckery hem as well

>>10066801
>>10066659

And here is the closeup from the webshop with decent hems.

I don't know what the magic is, she suited AP when she first started modelling for them but everything she wears looks like a mess now, it's getting difficult to guess if the dresses actually looks bad or she doesn't suit them.

>>10066587
Looks promising! I hate the other allover prints, border prints are life

>>10066808
God I love that lace. I wish they'd use it on a nicer print.

>>10066801
>>10066808
In fashion shows they use sample items which have lower standard of quality control

>>10066837

It's just particularly odd in this case because left and right would have both been sample dresses and they're the same print, but only Risa's has the puckered hem.

idk, maybe AP just gives her wonky items to model all the time.

>>10066828
isn't that the one used on the wonder party print? it's so cute

I could swear that there was a dress from either VM or MM that looked kind of like Lillie's dress in pokemon- white floral with a blue sailor collar. Was I hallucinating or was it real?

>>10066586
What's that grey one?
>>10066592
I think it's cute for every day. It's very ETC-esque and I really would feel comfortable wearing it casually

>>10066872
>What's that grey one?
Happy Un-birthday, the Imai Kira collab.

>>10066880
Close-up of it

>>10066586
Everything looks so faded... I don't know if it's an issue with the lighting or the camera but even the Valentine dress and Fancy Candy dress, which are red and therefore should be more vibrant, look really dull. This is different from the pastels AP is known for, everything looks straight up washed out.

>>10066885
I think it might be the lighting. Muuh posted some magazine snaps and they looked a lot better.

>>10066586
>trying to bring 2010 era-quality back with wigs and make-up
>actually bad quality fabric with tired half-assed prints
AP, baka

>>10066872
The lace fabric looks way too long imo, but they did the same thing with Snow Glass Dome this year.

>>10066616
because it's twice as ugly

Anyone applying to model for the Moitie fashion show at AWA?

Forgive me if I'm incredibly stupid, but does ZM being on holiday for the next four days mean that there's a chance the auction items I won today will be cancelled because it took too long to pay? I'm probably just being too nervous, right?

>>10067097
The best way to know for sure is to ask them, they have very good customer service and their English is excellent.

All i want is a lolita trap bf is that fucking to much to ask? It's so fucking hard to find traps that aren't gay like fuuuuuu. When are the scientists gonna step up their game and make me a lolita shota catboy maid robot?

>>10067132
Fuck off

Apologies is legit becoming a fast fashion brand. New prints churned out constantly, dropping quality, sources from China, doesn't even look good on the models.
>Change my mind

>>1006714
*Ap not apologies

>>10067137
No stop being a prude cunt sex is a natural thing and fucking traps has existed since ancient history have some fucking respect for tradition

>>10067137
Also plz dont report me this whole thread will get nuked

Is AP getting ready for their winter sale? I noticed some things missing from their online shop and they weren't sold out, just older less popular pieces.

So, if anyone wants some peak cringe, go browse r/lolita for a little bit. My favorite gem was someone talking about buying lolita from wish.
I do kind of wonder if good lolitas could stage a takeover of it though, since we still need actual good forums.

>>10067137
Ignore maleposters anon.

>>10067161
Well, if enough of us would commit to rally together and start posting there, I'm sure we could make a good community there.

>>10067161
How was i being an asshole?
>tfw always scared to talk to other women because I'm scared they'll get offended by everything I say

Sucks ass, I can't stand men

>>10067161
Does downvoting on Reddit work to vanish the crap posts? If so then maybe we could.

>>10067161
>>10067170
I wonder if it'd even be worth it to try and take over since it seems to be full of clueless newbies asking questions that could be answered by google and literal middle school age kids not willing to pay more than 30 dollars for a dress.
It'd be nice to have good forum to talk about lolita outside of this place but this subreddit has such low standards and high cringe it'd take more than a few gulls to make any significant improvement.

>>10067175
Yep

>>10067184
This would be easy to take care of by implementing rules that posts already answered/easily answerable by search get deleted.

>>10067184
>>10067189
There's already a r/lolitafashion that's hardly used though.

>>10067184
We we made and pinned a good introductory post explaimin lolita and pointing the noobs to resources, we could even build an autobot to post a link to it in any threads with certain noob questions and then lock them. Or mods can just have to approve posts, make sure there's a clearly available list of criteria though. Maybe we need an r/eglcommunity or something to separate it from the more noob-Googleable r/lolita

>>10067193
Isn't that one just more itashit? If not though, that could be a good one to try to make our own

>>10067193
>>10067196
I just had a squiz at it, it seems like it's almost entirely one person posting about new dress releases. Far more promising than /r/lolita.

>>10067232
Oooh. Japan only or lots of Taobao? Either way, that sounds like somewhere we could try to establish a presence. I wonder if the creator is looking for more mods... And if any lolita with reddit mod experience would be willing to try there

>>10067236
I didn't scroll down super far but it was all Japanese brands

>>10066872
I can think of two that are kind of that shape but not the colourway. Pic related is MM Angelica OP

>>10066872
>>10067254
Pic related is IW Alicia JSK. Lillie doesn't actually wear a sailor collar in her original outfit, she wears something more like these two dresses I've sent.

>>10067254
There's a better colourway of this

>>10067194
Or have a weekly noob question containment thread like on other subreddits.

>>10067270
This is a great suggestion, anon!

>>10066872
Ngl, I thought it looked like the Plant Garden Halter JSK on first glance. It came in blue too. It doesn't have a sailor collar though.

>>10066872
There's tons of classic stuff that is almost but not quite right. I'd buy something like this and get a detachable collar made

>>10067278
>>10067276
>>10067267
>>10067259
>>10067254
It's really weird to compare dresses like these to how people actually cosplay that character. She's meant to be a shy rich kid who was dressed by her overbearing mom right? Dressing her in brand or something brand-inspired would be so right. I haven't seen a good cosplay of her yet, everyone makes her look cheap. I wonder if anyone who is into both lolita and cosplay will ever cosplay her and do her justice...

>>10067193
>>10067232
r/lolitafashion looks far more promising and and already states that it's for more established lolitas (ie. no 'what is taobao' or 'should I wear lolita to middle school' threads). It already has weekly question containment threads in place too, even if no one is using them right now. The new release threads also could be a good alternative for those of us who are sick of taobao spam in the LU group as well. If other gulls are willing to establish a presence there, I'd definitely be down.

Does anyone else have problems with zenmarket withdrawing added deposits twice?

>>10066616
Ugh this looks awfully short

>>10066484
I kind of like it

>>10066882
NEED

>>10066655
looks to be a japanese indie brand
idk if they have a web store but here's their twitter
>https://twitter.com/hakuchosya

>>10066655
>>10067371
update: they do have a store but i imagine you'll need an SS
http://hakuchosya.cart.fc2.com/

>>10067140
It's actually not too bad to use Chinese manufacturers nowadays. AP switched to Myanmar.

>>10067372
They accepr paypal and cc payment, can’t find anything about wheter they do or do not ship overseas this quickly.

https://youtu.be/v37iwLFOxvc

Mistaking, why the fuck did you think it was ok to do a makeup video which a closeup on your face when you have pink eye? I couldn’t even get through the whole thing I just wanted to hurl. I hope you threw all that makeup away and didn’t use it again and risk the infection coming back after it’s all healed.

>>10067616
>kawaii pateen
Not even once

>>10067284
Her outfit is drawn cheaply, with no ruffles or gathering. None of the dresses posted in this thread would look remotely accurate.

Everybody's freaking out about AP's newest pastel vomit but does anyone have any info on the dress on the left here?

>>10066592
Her arms and neck look a bit sickly here...did she lose weight?

The blue they chose is nice at least.

sorry if this is a dumb question, does anyone know if merrygoround has an online store? Im having a lot of trouble trying to google it. Thank you

>>10068177
They have several..
https://www.etsy.com/shop/MerryGORoundLolita
https://traumerei.shop
http://www.merrygoroundxxx.com
And their old one, which I think is probably defunct:
http://merrygoround.theshop.jp

>>10068178
Thank you anon! It looks like I missed out, but apparently the dress is a 'swim dress'? So that may be for the better. Weird.

>>10068184

nayrt, just wanted to clear things up so you don't have the wrong info.

The one you posted in >>10068177 isn't a "swim" dress, it's a set of bustier, skirt and accessories.

There's a couple of seperate swimwear lucky bags (pic related is the swimwear), probably something about your browser/chrome translate messed up the spacing or something for different listings.

>>10067996
It‘ll probably be a side-release anyway.

In which city is Traumerei? I seriously can't find anything more than "Germany"

>>10068228
Rüdesheim aka bumfuck nowhere

Wunderwelt is dead. Did anyone succeed?

>>10068292
Nope.

>>10068292
Nope, but I'm a kiwifag and it's 4am and I stayed up for this.

>>10068294
I'm in the bathroom at work for this. I'm getting worried I won't be able to wait it out

>>10068292
Moitie website sold out in under a minute. WW is 502ing

>>10068294
>>10068297
It's already sold out on Moitie's website.

>>10068298
>under a minute
Under the first 10 seconds.

>>10068300
>>10068299
>>10068298
What's the point of trying? Why would they make so few?

>>10068301
I expect to see them resold for twice on yahoo. Honestly, by how fast they went I suspect scripting. They updated the website a few seconds before the deadline, I was already logged in and clicked by the speed of light but still got an error at the last checkout. After that it was sold out.

>>10068301
Lucky packs aren’t meant to be plenty...it’s literally cleaning old stock

>>10068303
So I'm going to have to script for next time if I want one? Fuck

WW went up for 1.2 seconds. Don't loose hope gulls

>>10068306
That's precise. How do you know?

>>10068307
I was half meming, it was up for a few more seconds. I managed to put it in my cart and log in but now it errors again.

>>10068308
Aaand it's sold out. Fuck it

Only the accessories pack is left. Hope at least some of you gulls had success. I'm gonna try get some fucking sleep now rip

>>10068292
After an hour of trying I finally got the accessory pack. I hope other gulls got what they wanted too.

I'm just sad that the only things 30% off were the Juliet OP and the Rose Garden OP and headbow

>>10068328
Me too, they could’ve at least discounted the longer juliet OP but I was really hoping for more. When they said a small selection they really weren’t kidding.

>>10068328
That 'sale' was complete shit.

>>10068328
Same, I hoped for the Cross OPs and maybe the cardigans or blouses.

>>10068331
>>10068337
>>10068340
I was hoping they would discount the cross pendants but I suppose that was just wishful thinking. I thought about getting an LP as well but I was afraid I'd get stuck with the Rose Garden OP for the large one or a bunch of scrunchies for the accessory one

>>10068340
Those sold well (cross op is running out of 9 now) whereas the rose and Juliet did not. It’s likely in the lucky pack too.

>>10068345
Yeah, those too. But they were relatively new so I didn't keep my hopes up.
I got the small LP and just try to trust them not to pull a bodyline on us. And I'm also a sucker for tote bags. Except the crunchies and vanity bags, there's literally nothing I wouldn't want.

This screams taobao to me. New Year is cancelled

>>10068375

>>10068375
How do we fix AP, gulls? I'm don't even wear sweet but seeing the newer releases, even the solid plain ones makes me weep.

Idk why all of you are trying so hard to get a moitie LP when almost nobody on cgl cared about them in the past two years. Just wondering. Also why would you order from wunderwelt instead of Atelier Pierrot which is cheaper.

>>10068426
They weren't as easy to access and not always online, I'm pretty sure they weren't even available last year. And the years they sold lucky packs, cgl talked about them. I'm not sure what you're implying here.
I assumed since the stock is very limited, they won't be offering them on Atelier Pierrot because they mostly get leftover stocks.

>>10068426
Pierrot didn't have the 30000yen pack afaik, so WW or Moitie's online store were the only options.

Also I think a handful of people in here are seasoned moitiefags, we're just coming out of the woodwork with the revival.

>>10068445
The accessory packs were available last year through WW, atepie and kera

>>10068445
>they won't be offering them on Atelier Pierrot because they mostly get leftover stocks.
That's not now giving stock to retailers works. They order the stock before the clothes get made so Moitie knows how much to make. That's why physical Atelier Pierrot and Kera shops sometimes have Moitie stuff that's sold out on Moitie's and WW's webshop.

>>10068449
Are you sure? I remember searching for info on them but couldn't find anything.

>>10068456
Yes I'm 100% sure

>>10068451
Alright, thanks for the explanation. The main website and WW always upload new stock first so I assumed they were only third place in importance, at least online.

>>10068457
Did you buy one? How were the contents?

>>10068460
It may seem like that because they have to send the stock to Atelier Pierrot's and Kera's warehouse or whatever they use, and then they have to put it in their actual store.. That takes a few days I'd say. The retailers already paid for that stock beforehand too so it's not like Moitie can just say "actually we need this so you get less"

>>10068426
Obviously more people care. WW gets it first, they get it the same time as the jp store whereas ate pie only gets actual stocked stuff a bit after. The 30k yen pack wasn’t available to them, nor is anything like the headdress’s that sold out quick (but sucked).

Last year didn’t do clothes.

>>10068375
>>10068378
>>10068395
I'm glad you don't want it cause I do.
It's only a group of people like you who don't like these new releases.
There's other who love them. Deal with it not being your fucking season. Next winter for you and more brands you don't need to buy from AP

>>10068508
I swear every time someone critiques AP in any way, there's always someone who gets overly defensive, takes it personal for some reason or completely sperges out.

>>10068516
I haven't heard the backlash for this new season's line just on cgl though. I heard it outside of here as well.
Not everyone hates it. I get not liking stuff, but "Fixing AP" doesn't actually need to happen.

I don't care for IW but I'm not saying "we should fix them".

>>10068516
It's usually someone who doesn't even wear sweet shitposting it. You don't see sweet lolita wearers complaining about nonsweet brands.

And it's always the same "looks like taobao" comment that makes it look like shitposting.

harajukuhearts dot com (based in US) is having a massive sale on Enchantlic Enchantilly right now. Like, 100 USD off on dresses.

They also have Emily Temple Cute for sale on their site now too.

>>10067153
AP Sf has a 30% off sale (lots of pieces, but I'm only going to list the print series)... On Airy Sugar, the plain apron dresses (a lot of people liked those a thread or two ago), Dramatic Shiny, Elegant Flora, Fairy Crystal, Fresh Cherry, Ghost Night Bride, Innocent Lady, Letter Doll, Lovely Bathroom, Praising Stars, Sugar Cross, Twinkle Regimen AND... Unicorn Mermaid.

>>10068526 >>10068508
I like Ap's current direction because I'm classic, but I always liked Ap's prints. So it's starting to fit my style more while still retaining that whimsy.

>>10068526
>"Fixing AP" doesn't actually need to happen.
Anon "How do we fix x" is a very common funposting thread starter on almost every board. It's a joke, same for the "Christmas is ruined" meme. I really shouldn't have to explain year old shitty memes to you.

>>10068529
Still no reason to get this offended and defensive. Have you considered that if it's "always the same looks like taobao shitposting" those "shitposters" actually think it looks like taobao compared to earlier releases?

>>10068529
As someone who genuinely loves AP and was a fan since high school (I’m ancient now), these releases are looking more and more like taobao crap. I get catering to a certain demographic, but that doesn’t mean every diehard lover is going to like the direction they are heading in. The last release I absolutely loved was Holiday Collection, but I hated the fact that it was printed on cheap polyester as opposed to cotton. Didn’t stop me from buying it, but I was so underwhelmed by how flimsy it felt in comparison to older releases. Who honestly gives a shit what someone thinks? If you like it, awesome. Just quit your bitching about other anons’ opinions on it.

>>10068303
I'm so angry about that. I wish they had a captcha or something to make sure that buyers were real.

Tfw suddendly get super sad over the fact that I'll never get pre-2010 lolita fashion back, brands don't do much stuff I'm interested in anymore, things I want and still don't own never get listed for sale and there's maybe 1 release I like each year if even that.

>>10068607
Hey, at least you weren't in Shibuya right now shopping on new years for lucky packs... They just got hit by a car of peace.

>>10068621
Wait what?

>>10068622
Nayrt, a car was driven into the crowd on Takeshita Street.

>>10068074
Her arms and neck look awful. I'm going to guess it was poorly photoshopped.

>>10068375
This looks like a bad rip off of the IW Planisphere print.

>>10068626
Holy shit I had no idea until I checked twitter.

>>10068580
Settle down snowflake, I liked old AP in high school too, but l'd glad they changed styles now. Anyway, I don't even like the dress anon posted, but its been a trend of gulls complaining about "the glory days of cotton."

Also "quit your bitching..." applies to you too. It's fine to dislike something, but shitposting a meme is different. It's like how people called AP "ageplay" before.

>>10068673
Except people who say “this looks like taobao” aren’t necessarily shitposting but expressing their perfectly valid opinion. It legitimately does look like taobao. The only difference is brand polyester is of higher quality, but at the end of the day it’s still flimsy polyester. Natural fabrics will always be the better than synthetics in both quality and durability.

Could you gulls help me out please? I have a black CP petti from 2012ish that I never wore. I tried wearing it recently and the colour transfer is crazy. I have tried washing and soaking it but it just won’t stop bleeding black dye. What do?

>>10068910
CP as in Classical Puppets? I have a black petti from them from ~2010 and it had the same problem, I washed it well 4 times and now it's ok.

>>10068552
>>10068375
>cheap polyester
>bloated print
>no detailing to be seen
> more classic
As a fellow classic lolita, what in the everloving fuck are you on about

>>10068678
>expressing their perfectly valid opinion.
Ntayrt but how is it valid if they are generalizing because they're uninformed?

>>10068557
Holy shit. It was just a meme? No shit, really?

I hope you realize posting memes make you look fucking idiotic. If you pretend to be retarded, people will just assume you are in fact retarded.

>>10068978
Yes, Classical Puppets. Thanks, I will just keep washing it then I suppose! Never buying a black petti again.

>>10069218
>Holy shit. It was just a meme? No shit, really?
What is that sarcastic tone for? You took it serious and literal. Why would you do that if you knew it was a meme? Just say you didn't know it and call it a day instead of going into this weird damage control mode.

>I hope you realize posting memes make you look fucking idiotic.
>on 4chan, the origin of memes
>on an anonymous imageboard
Oh no, whatever shall I do.

> If you pretend to be retarded, people will just assume you are in fact retarded.
>people
You mean newfags. Posters who have been on 4chan longer than a month notice when people who pretend to be retarded are only pretending (or at least it used to be like that). Especially when it comes to posting memes. I hate throwing newfag around but god anon, please lurk more or at least chill.

>>10068673
Also there are still plenty of cotton AP stuff? Last year's LP sets, most of the LP sets this year, Toy Doll Box, Re-release of Melody Toys, and more? That's just within a year.

>>10068673
Also AP is still releasing cotton stuff. Last year's LP sets, most of the LP sets this year, Toy Doll Box, Re-release of Melody Toys, and more. That's just within a year. Not much to complain about desu

>>10069218
>i didn't get a joke, you're retarded!

I know this is old as fuck but I scrolled past this thumbnail and legit thought Lor was an ugly man. Oh how far we've fallen from her "Shit lolitas say" days.

>>10069336
Commander Data, what are you doing here?

>>10069376

>>10068375
baka look at the way the hem puckers under the weight of the ruffle layers along the skirt. The fabric is too lightweight and flimsy for what they're trying to pull off.

Not to mention the print--it's bloated and unnecessarily large yes but for fuck's sake it's BORING. The amount of strangely placed negative space is awful. The lack of color range and definition makes it hard to tell what the print is trying to achieve (and I'm not talking about the blur from the cell photos) and the construction is boring.

I don't understand why AP is deciding to go in with a more ""classic"" style. There are literally boatloads of already well established brands that do that, it's a bit too late in the game for AP to try their hand at long skirts with large prints and multiple layers of ruffle and trim, they missed the bus on that trend by several years. The only reason Taobao dresses that look like that are as popular as they are is because A) it's an easy way to make an otherwise boring and uninventive cut/pattern look less so, B) it's way easier to tack on trim to the hem of a skirt than draft patterns for actual sewn in designs ie varying shapes in bodice and skirt style etc, C) they're cheap, D) they're literally fucking everywhere because of the aforementioned reasons so it doesn't give people access to much else.

I know I'm generalizing here, there's lots of Taobao brands that have innovative prints and designs that don't rely on cheap materials, that's fucking obvious inb4 someone cries about elitism, but this is lazy.

Why would I buy this from AP when I could just pull up something similar from Taobao for a third of the price and get near the same quality in terms of material and make?

TLDR AP had a strong grip on one of the most popular parts of the lolita market and them deciding to go with whatever everyone else is doing, therefor completely abandoning the corner of the market they owned and were good at, is fucking stupid desu. I don't get it.

>>10069436

>the post where I finally understand why filters are funny

Sorry anon, carry on. Didn't mean to interrupt your rant.

>>10066586
I like the valentine one, but i'm pretty sure they won't release a skirt of it

>>10069436
their whole damn season looks lazy AF.

>>10069496
I hope they release a skirt of it

>>10069498
I have a feeling that Maki and Asuka died and were replaced by look-alikes that don't know how to make nice dresses

Sorry for the newfaggotry, /cgl/, Is there a specific term for those more traditional looking dresses with attached full sleeves (pic related) rather than the strap ones that get put over blouses? Just trying to figure out if there's a better search term to find references than "long-sleeved lolita dress" which seems to return both.

>>10069503
Onepiece or OP - as opposed to the sleeveless dresses which are jumperskirts or JSKs.

>>10069505
Although OPs can also be short sleeved, so the specific term you're looking for is long sleeved OPs

>>10069505
>>10069506
>Onepiece
So straightforward and obvious but never even crossed my mind. Greatly appreciated, anon(s).

>>10069240
>defending memes this hard

Since when is it true that LM admins handle issues quickly, if at all?

>>10068910
Hot water wash and vinegar soak, anon. My black cp petti from 2012ish did the same damn thing.

>>10069027
THANK YOU. Like, AP is not classic. Sick to death of people thinking a few less layers of ruffles = classic.

>>10069500
it feels like that anon.

>>10069507
What an ugly OP

Does anyone here have experience with going into brand stores in Japan? I've read assorted blog posts about it and it's been regularly written that brand stores don't like tourists/foreigners, but most of the posts were several years old. I imagine that tourists are unwelcome because they're often disrespectful, treating the clothes like a novelty or costumes, taking pictures, trying things on without buying, etc. but I'm not certain.
What kind of ettiquete/procedure other than
>don't take photos
>don't try on things unless you're almost certain you will buy
>don't be noisy/obnoxious
is standard for brand shops and secondhand shops?

>>10069536
What's this in regards to?

>>10069624
It’s honestly not complicated. They actually are friendly to people especially if you dress in Lolita. But it’s awkward because you have a language barrier, so I think ppl see this as rude when it’s just inability to talk to you.

>>10069336
She’s too awkward for me, I stopped watching after Shit lolitas say. Didn’t she copy that from Deerstalker anyway? Whatevs. It was funny for a minute.
She has actually said that lolita is just clothes so she’s not a lifestyler, she wears the cheapest shiny clown wigs, puts craft store shit on her head and she has bad brows. In person she’s more than a bit of a dipshit. Why are lolitas watching her, she’s not a good example. Con guest never please.

>>10067616
I don't think that's pink eye, it seems to be red only by the inner corner...she might have just aggravated the inner corner of her eye when putting in the circle lenses, but was already in the studio for the KP gig. The other parts of her eye look fine, which make me think it isn't an infection. Pink eye usually shows red and angry across the whole eye.
I think Misako has better sense and pride than that.

>>10067193
And r/egl which pretty much dead and just asking for a hostile takeover.

Where do people like to buy wigs from these days? It’s been a long time since I’ve last bought any wigs and I’d like to buy a few new styles but I don’t know what’s good anymore. I used to buy from Lockshop years ago but I hear the quality has gone down. Any recommendations?

>>10069668
>I think Misako has better sense and pride than that

>pride

Lmao ok

>>10069692
Wigs aren't very popular these days

>>10069727
a) that's not what anon asked and b) people still wear wigs. I bet more than you think because what your comment *should* have said was [unnatural colored] wigs arent very popular.

>>10069692
anyways anon, everyone debates the quality of dreamholic, but there's also vanyar, monkeep, arda, donalove, brightlele to name a few. I own one from all named and I can't complain. I think the best quality though, is from a local beauty supply.
Wear a wig if you want to. i wear one every time I wear lolita.

>>10069500
Maki and Asuka never designed the dresses anyway. They designed accessories and one of them would draw SOME of the prints.

>>10069803
?????????????

>>10069692
Honestly? I've found the more natural looking aliexpress wigs to be of good quality.

>>10069729
Anon asks where "people" like to buy wigs these days. A majority of lolitas actually does not buy them these days, and the ones that do, buy them from different places, many which have inconsistent quality.

>>10069805
Have you never read their interviews?

>>10069833
Unsurprisingly, some gulls are retarded about lolita in general, probably because they're not lolitas at all and don't care to know anything about the subculture beyond whatever kawaii uguu frilly shit they like to pretend that they wear.

>>10069838
Tbh there is a big lack of interest in what Japanese designers and artists say about lolita on cgl as well. Most people have the mindset that "it's just clothes" and "just because a Japanese person said it doesn't mean it's true"..

>>10069624
>>10069627
My experience has always been a positive one. Just don't be an asshat and ask to try everything on.

The only time shops were stand off-ish to me was when I went into the BTSSB store at Laforet and the shopgirls ignored me until one heard me explaining the difference between Usakumya and Kumakumya to my boyfriend. She got really excited after that and started showing us all the kumyas in the store.

One phrase I found really helpful is "Osusume wa nan desu ka" Which is like "what do you recommend?"

I found so many matching socks/accessories this way.

>>10069692
I've always purchased them from african american wig shops. I've had $10 wigs last me like 5 years before they get ratted/unwearable.

>>10069624
One thing I highly recommend is having the Google Translate app and internet (either through paying for an international plan or pocket wifi or a sim card or something). Most of the time just knowing basic phrases will get you along fine, I'd make sure to memorize a good amount, but sometimes you just can't phrase something right and the shopkeeper will be the one who doesn't know a lick of english.

For instance when I went in the spring I tried to ask at AP Laforet if they had the Bunny College skirt in green, the series had just released shortly ago and that color sold out hardcore. I tried to ask if they had it in green but I must have done a poor job phrasing it, the poor girl was so confused and I gave up but she tried so hard. Later on I visited KERA in Marui Annex and realized I should just use my phone and we traded it back in forth as I asked if they had specific Sheglit products, they would help me out and ask when I was leaving because they could order them into the store, etc. The KERA staff were super helpful once we could communicate by google translate.

Shoutout to the lovely lady at Abilletage Laforet, absolute sweetheart and even let me take pictures, only place that did really.

Shopkeeps are really friendly when you follow the rules and doing your best, the language barrier is the real hurdle. Even the Harajuku CC staff were really friendly with some foreign girls I talked to in the store who could speak Japanese but since I clearly couldn't speak it they had few options for communication.

>>10069910
Wtf lol, just show them a picture of what you want

>>10069922
I did at Kera, having pictures ready of a necklace and a skirt that were in stock online, but then the shopkeeps were trying to tell me something that I didn't understand at all. Instead of just telling me no they were trying to explain the whole "we don't have it I think but we can order it". I didn't understand anything they were saying until I pulled out my phone and the app and wrote down my question and they in kind. With the Angelic Pretty girl the skirt was right there in the store in blue, I was grabbing it and asking if they had it in green. I think she was also trying to overexplain rather than just say no unfortunately and that was my first day in Japan so I didn't even think about the app.

It just makes situations easier where they are trying to be nice, but being nice requires a lot more words.

When a Taobao brand is looking more like Angelic Pretty than Angelic Pretty is...

Does anyone have high quality images of Moitie prints (preferably blue x black)? I'm trying to make one a header for my FB.

Is there any lolita item database right now that has working shoe section? Lolibrary's shoe section seems like it's been dead for a while

>>10069935
Dayummm this is cute

>>10069935
The art is ugly and very not AP. however, the styling is AP-esque

>>10069624
Besides the obvious language barrier, what you said is pretty much it. I know Lor isn't really popular here, but in her Kelly Eden video she explained a lot about why a lot of Japanese shop staff seem standoffish at first, if it just appears that you're an outsider looking in rather than someone who knows and appreciates the fashion they don't know what treatment they're going to get. Once they know you're interested in the fashion and not just some obnoxious tourist there to gawk at 'wow weird quirky japan' they'll generally make an effort to communicate with you, as best as they can. They have to deal with said obnoxious tourists and people that don't respect or try to understand the fashion every day.

When I went to Japan and visited brand stores, I knew what lolita was but hadn't started buying/wearing it yet.I pretty much just pointed to stuff and spoke what little Japanese I could muster (yes, no, this is cute, thank you etc.) I went to AATP in laforet first, not wearing any lolita and they were really nice to me, showing me all of the different accessories and dresses and matching blouses at the time. I still have my stamp card that I kept as a souvenir. As long as you try to learn a few basic phrases and show that you have interest in the fashion, they will generally treat you well. As for trying things on, I never had to since I was already familiar with Japanese freesize clothing and knew things would fit me. I think that maybe if you look like you obviously won't fit something, they wouldn't let you try it on. And like you said, if you're not certain you want to buy it you probably shouldn't try it on. In the occasion that you try something on and damage it, then decide you don't want it, then they can't sell it later on at the same price.

>>10069948
If you don't own it you don't deserve to use it.

>>10066630
>>10066659
She's also probably wearing a sample piece, which may have shoddy sewing/repairs/materials. They use samples in fashion shows and promo photos fairly often. It doesn't help that the new releases have more generous sizing than they used to.

>>10069885
>She got really excited after that and started showing us all the kumyas in the store.
I know she most likely just tried to sell them but damn, that's cute.

>>10069833
Where can I read them?

>>10070044
My thoughts exactly, and I'd be damned if I didnt spend upwards of $400 in that store

>>10066941
Finally a regular-waisted OP!

>>10066552
That could have saved it

>>10066586
oh no, Y2K is back
except it turned 2019 into 2012

>>10069949
We've been trying to convince them to finish importing the shoes back in for the past year.

>>10069336
That is the ugliest face I've seen.

>>10069985
Ntayrt but I use prints I don't have yet but want as my phone background. Helps me really work for them.

>>10069935
oh man, I forgot about Citanul

>>10070303
I wish, I miss 2012

>>10069932
they're not trying to be extra nice, it's just not part of their language/culture to directly say no in that context

> contacted LM seller three years ago about a listing that recently ended with 0 bidders wondering if item was still available
> seller says yes and relists it at a much higher price
> offer to pay original listing price (which was fair for the dress)
> seller declines
> seller relists item over and over again for inflated price for three whole years

I get you want what it's worth to you, but it was only worth that much to you when I messaged and asked to buy it. I don't know why I still keep it in my watch list, but maybe I enjoy the punishment.

>>10070685
Could it also be the way they do business? Certain upmarket places here, when you ask if something is in stock so you can try it on/take it home will really push to have you pay for it at the counter and order it in. Here it's because of targets/commission.

>>10070828
That seller sounds like a cunt. Get one of your friends to message her for you and offer the old price again. Even if just to rub it in her face

>>10069624
The staff in super touristy areas can definitely be less friendly to foreigners unless it’s obvious you wear lolita (although at Closet Child they are always kind of meh). At Laforet you’ll see tourists walking around with professional cameras ignoring the no photo signs so I’m sure they are sick of having to deal with that. It sounds like you’ll be fine though. And just a heads up that there are a lot of things you’re not allowed to try on (basically any knit pieces or things with small head holes) so always be sure to ask. If you do try on remember to take off your shoes and put the makeup bag over your head so you don’t damage the clothing!

>>10070872
It might be worth a shot, but I live in a place with not many lolitas, so I'm not sure she'd catch on or not. Still, I'll try. Thanks anon.

>>10070883
This. Key point being take off your shoes before stepping in the changing room, optimally not stepping on the outer floor in your socks either. Sometimes they'll have changing room slippers/heels for you.

>>10070828
scalpers deserve to have their wardrobes burned

>>10070921
Who says that seller is a scalper and anon wasn't just a whiny poorfag not wanting to pay what it should sell for and what the seller paid? Obviously if the seller hasn't reduced it in that long they aren't wanting to take a loss. Known scalpers who consider themselves stores will reduce their prices over time because they got their items so much under retail that they can mark them double or triple what they paid and reduce them until they sell

Some sellers do flash sales for emergencies and are willing to take a loss just to get some money. Then if they recover from that the item will go to its normal price. Not scalping

>>10070941
i don't think that OP was a whiny poorfag, but ignore that anon. there's been a handful of gulls who've been extra whiny about scalpers the past few months and i'm sure she's one of then

>>10069885
Some of the Laforet shop staff are standoffish in all the B1.5 shops while the other half are talkative and helpful. Yokohama Vivre has good staff especially in AatP. I usually went to the Baby store there but the new shop girls they hired don't greet you and avoid you even when you go to the till to make a purchase. They didn't let me try on a jacket but assisted a Japanese person with several JSKS with no hesitations

>>10070941
Yeah, it wasn't a flash sale. It was a normal listing and had been relisted previously without selling at the starting bid before I contacted her.

The price I'm offering is reasonable for the dress in question. It's higher than it has been on LM in the past, and higher than it goes for on Fril and Mercari, but I always miss out by the time SS get back to me.

I'm also not a poorfag, just not willing to play the now inflated cost. And neither is anyone else, by the look of it.

>>10069624
from personal experience, the language barrier is the hardest part for them. even though i was in lolita the staff at laforet generally avoided me until i showed them i could speak japanese by asking them things, except for the girl at nile perch who approached me first and was such a sweetheart. the staff at AP were the most standoffish, but this wasn't too long after the kelly eden thing so i think they were still traumatised.

>>10069985
nayrt but i hope you're not serious

>>10069985
Why would you want to use a picture of a print on a dress as a wallpaper

>>10069624
As long as you are not big, they are relatively friendly. They have the tendency to tell you items are made in Japanese sizes, to give of the hint they expect you to be too tall/big for their clothing. But this only happens if you are vissibly on the max of shirring measurements.

I found the staff at closet child and secondhand shops to be the most chill. They never really approached me during shopping and were always very kind when I approached them. The staff at Baby directly came to me to ask if I was looking for something. Which was a bit intimidating as I had literally just stepped into the store, but as soon as I explained that I sought a matching item for one of their skirts, she really tried to help me. Have to say I have never went through a store that quickly.

Besides the points you mentioned I believe some are bothered when you touch many of the items as well. Also be sure to keep into account they might want you to take your shoes off when you enter the fitting room. (I am pretty sure they always want you to.)
Also it’s common they hand you your shopping bag once they have guided you out of the store. I got confused when the cashier wouldn’t give me my purchase and kept pointing to the exit, until he explained to me he was going to give it there. (Have to say only Baby and Atelier Pierrot did this when I was there.)
But in general just give of the look that you are genuinly interested in the fashion. If you wear lolita or just your lolita items in a casual way, they tend to be much more friendly.

>>10070952
I believe jackets, coats and blouses are items you are not allowed to try on. While dresses, jsks and skirts are allowed. In Japan the items you can try on are more limited than in the west.

>>10071046
Honestly the Laforet staff have just started being a bit friendlier again and guess who’s planning to visit Japan this spring

>>10071007
Fril and Mercari aren't good comparisons. Cheap things sell immediately to the rainies of the world with a good SS and are hard to get there. A lot of times I see something there cheap and end up getting it on CC or WW for a lot more. LM is an interesting comparison because there are people selling the "same" dresses bought under totally different circumstances.

>>10071145
Not trying to compare, just trying to give you an idea that I'm not trying to lowball the seller. I'm offering around 300 USD which was the original SB, which was still $50 more than it sold for in the past but that I don't mind. What I do mind is that it became 50% more than that as soon as I expressed interest and it's been relisted for 3 whole years. I get you can ask whatever you want at the end of the day, but jeez. Makes me wonder if it's just being relisted for show and tell, you know?

>Is mostly into classic/gothic
>Never in my life been interested in wearing sweet
>Suddenly got this crazy urge to do a bear-themed sweet coord
>Practically sitting on my hands to stop myself from buying items for a coord I'd either never wear or only wear once

Anyone else ITT have these weird urges? I have no idea where this sudden need came from but fuck bear-themed coords are so fucking cute

>>10071150
Same situation here. Am classic but keep looking at a sweet dress on LM. I'd have to buy a new blouse, shoes etc if I wanted to wear it.

>>10071149
Oh that makes sense... I sell some of my dresses when I don't end up liking them and don't have any highly popular items so none of mine are even $200 (usually $125-150 dresses I got on Closetchild to build my wardrobe). Lol so I was thinking you were talking about items like mine, they could possibly go cheaper on Mercari but I'm often just selling things for the exact same price I bought and taking a loss on shipping. Just so I don't completely waste my money when I don't like something.

The age of consent was invented because old hag roasties cant compete against the beauty of cute young girls.

>>10071164

>>10071046
working at Laforet imo is comparable to working on the frontline of a major battle. everyday is groundhog day and it's precarious during the holidays

>>10071150
I get this too sometimes, even worse when the pieces I'd want to wear in my hypothetical sweet coord all turn up in the secondhand market, as if to tease me into actually going for it.

IW is only doing LPs in store and I AM VERY ANGERY

>>10071150
i gave into an urge like this not long ago for a dress that didn't even remotely fit in with the rest of my wardrobe, even though i knew i'd never want to move my wardrobe in a similar direction. i even went ahead and bought all the items for the coord, only to have the urge pass and be less than thrilled with the new additions to my wardrobe. eventually ended up having to sell everything for less than i paid for it all

>>10071150
As a gothic lolita who got obsessed with a sweet dress and bought a whole coord for it my experience was entirely similar to >>10071353. Think well about whether it's actually an asset to your wardrobe. If you've been wanting to add more sweet to your wardrobe then go for it, but if it's just the one coord then you will most likely regret it.

>>10071052
Why wouldn't you???

>>10071336
I just hope they do a winter sale online.

How many years do I have to wait for Higanbana and Ornament Jacquard to go on sale. I wear the high stock M92 size, I can wait...

for those doing the eglwardrobechallenge on instagram, have you interpreted "day 5 - most popular brand" as the brand you have the most items from, or as your most coveted brand piece (e.g. Puppet Circus, Iron Gate, etc.)?

>>10071406
I’m interpreting it as the brand with the most representation in your wardrobe.

>>10071150
I get random bouts of those urges, but the dress I buy in those urges I always end up selling in the end. I try to stick to my priority dresses and wishlist items but something else always sets me off on this unstoppable tangent where I must absolutely buy this thing that doesn't suit my wardrobe at all. Currently fighting the urge at the moment, I think it's passing slowly. But then I go 'what if I did get it tho and it's great???' and it begins again.

>>10071408
This pretty much. If it was rare stuff I would think they would say coveted or something? Some rare stuff aren’t popular. So I’m doing what I seem to like the most

>>10071406
I would say the one you have most things from. It's about your wardrobe. If it was about the most popular in general, everyone should put something from Angelic Pretty.

>>10071150
I get these urges too and like others said they don't end well.
Kind of funny so many people have the same experience, I never really thought about it

Anyone been to closet child recently? I'm going soon, and the lolita section of the site doesn't seem to be updated as regularly anymore. Do they tend to have more things instore than what gets put online?

>>10071495
Way more! Online is just a selection of what they have to sell, the stores have like...double the amount of things that are on the webstore depending on where you go. I liked the Ikebukuro branch better than Harajuku.

>>10071495
My favourite closet child is the Osaka one since it is right next to maiden clothing and they sometimes seem to have similar pricing so you can find a better deal between each store.

>>10069624
It’s like anyplace you normally shop at. Some people are nice, others rather you didn’t exist to burden their work day. I think it’s likely due to language barrier so as long as you show ability to communicate in Japanese it isn’t that bad. The only time though I’ve ever been outright approached was in my home town, but it was maybe because they recognized me and knew I could talk? Personally I hate being approached by sales people anywhere I go whether it’s in Canada or Japan.

There is one adorable AP shop keeper in Kobe though who’d always try to talk to me and she got really excited once when I asked her to help pick between head dress colours for a dress when I showed her a photo.

On Moitie's new top hat release post.

>>10071733
I mean truth is truth, it is pretty basic. Moitie has released at least one other plain tophat thing (the soft one Mr. Yan wears a replica of is what I'm thinking of), but it's still a letdown.

And the emblem falling off is pure crap, although not as bad as the last headdress falling apart. Wtf is this shit?

>>10071738
Lucky packs will have 3 scrunchies, a top hat, and a headpiece with a clip that pops off.

>>10071733
oh god, i just peeked at it and it really just looks like they glued a cross on a regular top hat. they could have added some roses? a little different shape to the brim or maybe the top? some veil off the back or something else other than just a dumb cross...

hell, i think i might have been a little more content with maybe adding the brand name to the hat trim or ribbon along with the cross.

>>10071740
Somehow worse than the bodyline Lps.

Conspiracy theory: Yandyman bought Moitie using bodyline money and this is his revenge.

>>10071733
Literally my thoughts with almost everything they released so far. They just endlessly use moitie's logos and call it a revival. I had high hopes at the beginning, but they slowly start to dwindle. Props to TM for taking one for the team.

>>10071740
>tfw they get shipped out in 2 days
Don't make me anxious, they said the packs will be unisex. Scrunchies aren't unisex.

>>10071762
They posted a photo on the Twitter showing Mana wearing one on his wrist, so maybe...

>>10071761
Speaking of which did anyone end up getting the Catherine OP and how is the quality looking? I know many of us were hesitant after hearing about accessories falling apart and were hoping main pieces were still good.

>>10071740
The scrunchies didn't sell badly so it would be weird to put all of them in a LP

>>10071766
Tamielove did a short review on her insta

Is/are there any Mr Yan fan pages or groups on facebook? I need to join them...otherwise we need to make one...

Show me what you got!

Is closetchild's website not working for anyone else?

anyone have experience treating mildew in clothes? what method and products did you use?

>>10071850
It's working for me right now

>>10071766
Isn’t it sold out now anyways? I have one and I love it. The elastic is comfortable and the fabric is nice and thick. I’m really glad I got it.

This has got to be the worse replica I’ve ever seen

>>10071877
I know a lot of gulls hate Haenuli but no dress deserves to become this mess.

>>10071877
I honestly really loved her artwork revolving around those characters, but it looked like shit as a dress. Still, the replicas are just sad.

>>10071762
Considering the hair length of Moitie's average male customer, it is

>>10071862
What do you think of the sizing? I wanted it really badly but I'm under the minimum measurements. Tbh that feels worse about new Moitie than the falling apart accessories. I just can't wear their clothes anymore without getting them altered.

>>10071920
>can easily fit moities entire back catalogue
>one release that's intended for average western sized people
i can't help but not feel any sympathy for you

>>10071947
Right, poor lil Anon will have to buy cheaper old secondhand pieces that sit around forever since few can fit them. I feel so bad

>>10071947
>>10071953
My waist 69cm so I don't fit a lot of their older pieces. Also my bust is too small for a lot of their newer unshirred things. I'm sorry I'm sad that it's becoming even more unlikely that my favourite brand releases things that fit me. The way you think, you can say the same thing to the people complaining about their accessories. Just buy them secondhand if the new ones aren't good enough.

>>10071947
>>10071953
My waist 68cm so I don't fit a lot of their older pieces. Also my bust is too small for a lot of their newer unshirred things. I'm sorry I'm sad that it's becoming even more unlikely that my favourite brand releases things that fit me. The way you think, you can say the same thing to the people complaining about their accessories. Just buy them secondhand if the new ones aren't good enough.

There's not a regretsy topic but I saw this on LM and just.
Nothing about this is good. At all.
Like, damn bitch, that should should be free.

Girls above 5'7" should KILL themselves so I dont have to see you hideous ogres any more.

>>10071052
>>10069985
Are you guys even lolitas?
>>10069935
That art is more Baby than AP and the materials and construction are clearly taobao to me. Would be good for cheapos, though.

>>10071979
Why does everyone on LM pretend their items are discounted? The admins may not care enough to warn you about this, but that shit is illegal in most places.

>>10071978
>my bust is too small
Yikes.

What's small is your chances of finding a man who wants to love you

>>10071947
>one release that's intended for average western sized people
I think a large part of my comm is less than 74cm though. It would have been much better if they made two sizes.

>>10071985
Luckily I know a round about of how much shit should be worth and once in awhile I'll find a good deal.
But then I see shit like a fucking damaged bodyline replica and they expect people to actually pay money for that.
I kind of feel bad for newbie lolitas who don't have anyone to help hem wade through the myraid of shit.

>>10071979
I never knew that this bodyline dress was a replica. Either way, it's probably time to throw it into the bin.

>>10071992
You misunderstand. The dress from bodyline isn't a replica. But the dress for sale is a replica of a bodyline dress.

>>10072006
You’re a retard.

>>10071992
It’s an AP replica by the same name

>>10072006
A replica of a replica?

>>10072010
Ah, thank you! This is very pretty.

>>10071986
bitter fatty detected

>>10072022
Do boys mistake you for a tranny?

>>10072036
Do boys gloss over you because you're a fatty or because of your piss poor attitude?

>>10072040
Have you started your transition yet?

I love a man with a flat body.

>>10072036
Do boys mistake you for a whale?

>>10071953
>second hand moitie
>cheaper
>sit around forever
t. didn't buy second hand moitie in the past two years. Everything that isn't really boring or unappealing sells within 5 minutes or is a bloody bidding war in auctions.

>>10072036
no because I'm cute, petite and fit
enjoy being a fatass though

Next thread >>10072162

>>10072069
I actually do buy secondhand moitie but sometimes it doesn't fit me. And when I ended up trying to sell some things I had to take a loss compared to what I paid from Japanese sellers and relist several times even at the cheap prices

>>10071847
He’s old news, he sold Bodyline last year so he is long gone and has left us all behind.

I bought a whole set for a big event in my comm tomorrow and the head piece didn't come. I don't have anything near the color and I don't have any neutral hats.
I am so disappointed. Any ideas, gulls? There is a detachable bow on the dress I feel like could maybe attach to my head for balance.

>>10077404
Tie the waistties like a headband with a bow?

>>10069891
Just say black, why PC it

>>10069891

I looked at one of those the other day and it was $50 for a wig??