/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10542223
That turns me off to AP personally since their best stuff over the last year or two have only been the cotton rereleases and their non main pieces. A business caring enough about profit to allow scalpers to clean house but also not enough to just make more fucking stock so regular lolitas can also buy what they want as well is kinda lazy and stupid to me, so I'd rather just not waste time trying to buy main pieces firsthand from them anymore unless it's MTO.

>>10542220
I already have Milky Fawn. I think it's just me but whenever I try to sell something, I try to not add too many "don'ts" so people feel more comfortable and have the choice to do whatever with their purchase.

>>10542221
Oh I see what you mean. Even though it's unfortunate for watchers, it's up to them at the end of the day

>>10542237
no you can't.

>>10542231
It's not about the moral value of the crime; it's about the risk of getting into trouble for someone being a cheapass. If you can't afford shipping and customs as well as the list price, you can't afford the item; get over it.

>>10542241

>>10542247
Laws aren't applied to every package anon. I doubt your Japanese dress will be one of them.

>>10542223
Does it though? I don't view AP releases as ~exclusive~, just annoying. Scalpers aren't making AP any money. Look at all the newbies who get into the fashion and pick AP before even knowing what a brand dress costs. AP's popularity came from cute products, not scalpers cornering the market. You're thinking too much about Supreme. No one is going to buy a stamped brick otherwise.

Yes, some people will buy every AP release even if it sucks, but most of us actually buy for taste.

>>10542238
The problem is that they can't have it both ways. If they make more stock, then regular lolitas won't buy from scalpers, who then won't buy from AP en masse.

Scalpers are a more stable source of sales, since they'll buy out any release with even a faint pulse. Of course AP isn't going to try and stop them, they'll buy just about anything.

>>10542252
The law applies to every package, whether or not yours is selected for customs inspection is random. I have had three packages of maybe 40 or so from my SS get flagged by customs.

No one should feel any pressure to break the law to save your cheap ass some dough.

>>10542253
>Scalpers aren't making AP any money.
the price is the same whether the scalpers buy it, or someone else does. AP makes just as money selling a dress to a scalper as they do to anyone else. The difference is that scalpers buy greater volume.

Scalpers have created a great environment for AP as a brand. If you have even the slightest interest in a print, you'll try to buy it from AP even if you're having second thoughts because you know if you don't get it and decide you want it later, you could have to pay quite the premium. It creates an ecosystem of highly motivated buyers, which is great for their releases, events, and MTOs.

>>10542254
>Scalpers are a more stable source of sales, since they'll buy out any release with even a faint pulse
Wow it would be fucking great if scalpers just died and stopped tricking AP into thinking there was support for shit releases

>>10542239
Do you sell often? I'm just asking because I find lately that if I don't outline things like "no international shipping" or " no splitting sets" I inevitably get 50 messages about it, especially with sweet AP.


I've even gotten messages asking me to sell dresses they can see in the background of my closet, which is why I don't take pics with my closet in the background anymore.

>>10542259
>you'll try to buy it from AP even if you're having second thoughts because you know if you don't get it and decide you want it later, you could have to pay quite the premium

This. I guess this is great for AP but it’s shit for my chronic FOMO syndrome

>>10542262
if that was the case then every release would sell out and AP would have no extra stock. its very obvious that even with scalping, some releases sell better than others.

>>10542259
Scalpers so make people angry and alienate real lolitas from buying AP. It's not exactly a positive brand image. I get what you're saying, but supporting evil in the world isn't what I'd choose.

>>10542269
> Evil in the world

LMAO ok but if you're really concerned about that maybe save that for the Uyghur slaves that are making your SC MTO rn.

The thing is though, no one really cares because it's a status fashion. People don't really care that AP enables scalpers, they'll still camp out on the website and try their best to get their shiny new toys.

Capitalism is funny like that.

>>10542269
Imagine living a life so sheltered that people shilling frilly dresses are an evil in the world lol

>>10542257
And has your ss had criminal charges against them? Or is it you who has to deal with it?

>>10542266
I'm the opposite. If I'm on the fence I just skip out since I know scalpers will be selling it for months later.

>>10542271
Lolita isn't a fashion about status. It's about frills. Statusfags can fuck off back to normie fashion and waste money on Gildan t shirts and bricks.

>>10542271
I guess "evil" is too strong of a word. Maybe "greed" is better?

I just think AP can do a lot better. I know it's not a perfect world and it's all wishful thinking. If I was a business and I saw my stock sell to people who turned around and sold it for 50%-100% more, I'd want that money.

It is interesting how people approach AP and japan in general with a weird assumption of simple minded innocence. Ap isn’t some innocent little indie shop just trying to get by, they’re one of the longest running and most prolific corporations in j fashion. They’ve got sales data spanning like 30 years total. They know exactly how to run their business and how much stock to order in order to have the ideal balance of exclusivity and accessibility. It’s not an accident that they run their stores the way they do. They don’t ban scalpers, but occasionally they re-release or restock to throw a wrench in it, like with little witch.

>>10542274
No, because they don't devalue customs. They live in Japan as a foreigner, so if they had they probably would have gotten deported. Japan is insanely strict about these sort of things.

>>10542276
>Lolita isn't a fashion about status.

Where have you been anon? This is the AP thread after all. It's not ALL about status, but lezbehonest, status and brand status have always played a huge role in comms and an even bigger role online.

>>10542280
I was dying seeing that girl pay $700+ for a dress they restocked two days later, and which ultimately went to the sale rack. LMAO

>>10542280
Woobification is a hell of a drug.

>>10542283
Maybe because I was mostly a lonelita before joining a really chill and sweet comm but lolita has always been about wearing cute clothes for me, not about flexing on anyone. I mostly buy brand because I like the artwork of their prints and designs of their non prints, but I don't treat it like it makes me better than anyone or whatever. I guess I'm just weird/an outlier.

>>10542280
Eh, every business is just a disguised clusterfuck though. Have you ever worked for a corporation? No one has any idea what they are doing.

>>10542284
Halloween hype is honestly the biggest holiday hype in this fashion. They probably paid scalper price to get the piece before the end of October or something.

>>10542287
Have you ever worked for a Japanese company? They tend to run with extreme efficiency. Numerous case studies use Japan as an example to try and teach other countries how to operate businesses.

>>10542288
true but it was re-stocked on the Sunday and monday following, so it would still have arrived.

>>10542289

It really depends. Japan is also known for being horribly inefficient with their long work hours and overworking/overtime culture not actually leading to any improved or increased productivity, just like people in mid tier office jobs getting their work done early and fucking around on facebook until the day ends in the US, but worse cause they work a lot harder to get less done. Japan is also huge on bureaucracy and following rules and processes a lot of the time to such a degree that while I get it is for stability or security it can hinder progress.

>>10542290
The girl buying didn't know it would be at the time, I'm assuming, or they wouldn't have wasted an extra $350

>>10542284
Little Witch was such a huge fail. I thought it was ugly and laughed at everyone freaking out over it.

New: >>10542295

>>10542294
It was legitimately one of the better new AP releases last year because their chiffon poly is better than the regular thick printed stuff a lot of the time, but it still wasn't that great to me. I've seen bat and cat detail halloween all over/vertical prints from AP so many time it wasn't new or exciting and everyone else was so hype for it I didn't want to waste time or stress myself out competing to buy a seasonal piece.

>>10542269
>scalping lolita dresses is supporting evil in the world

you are literally using 4chan right now

>>10542297
Polyester + all over prints just make my eyes glaze over.

>>10542301
Maybe they're ESL and meant some other word like greedy or shitty.

>>10541229
Shut your whore ita mouth.

>>10542237
Lmao shopping service's will do this for you and so did Bodyline back in the day. Nobody gets in trouble for this. Do you think the cops are gonna come get you if a neighbor smells you smoking a blunt on the lawn? Grow up.

>>10541726
>she

>>10542282
Okay but the conversation was about lace market. No surprise your items get stopped in customs coming from a business.

>>10542345
Even if it wasn't something ever enforced, if people prefer not to lie just for some cheap poorfag buying shit they can't afford fees for to get off easier on customs, then they don't have to and they're not doing anything wrong as a seller by not catering to you

>>10541549
I figured it out and I'm new to coding, it's like the third program I wrote on my own after taking some online class
Lesser lolitas get their boyfriends to do it though

>>10541845
Wow you have cracked the code, all the dresses they make are just a front for their real money maker: oversized children's shoes

Ok which of u gulls got the mint fruits parlor jsk on CC? Congrats!!

>>10544647
A bot/scalper probably got it. CC is near impossible now

>>10544656
aw :c