/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

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>We allways explain that as victorian and roccoco anyway so how is alice even relevant tothat argument? Every single stage of the development of lolita fashion from the early days of 'delores' to the current ott classic trend we can explain the main influencers, inspo and referrences. Alice never gets brought up, and i cant even see a point where it was relevant enough to influence the style in anyway more than the allready more apparent and stronger inspirations for lolita fashion.

Alice in Wonderland has influenced lolita from the beginning, it pops up as a theme from the early G&LBs onwards. If you think it's not as trace-able through lolita history as Victorian and Rococo influence is you're either an idiot or fairly ignorant of lolita history (it arguably goes back earlier than the rococo influence does - Victorian/Rococo/50s elements show up in lolita a lot earlier than the French/Georgian-style dresses do). Lots of designers apparently like the story and themes of being a proper young maiden dumped in a strange and sometimes hostile world. Additionally, Alice is part of the Victorian influence since it was originally a book about a Victorian child, much like the oft-cited porcelain doll influence also really just goes back to Victorian childrens' fashion.

You don't have to like it and personally I hate playing card/magic motifs too, but Alice is hardly a bizarre choice for something for lolitas to identify with, especially when you look at the fashion as it was in the oldschool era rather than how it is now.

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