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Millennial here. Why is it that every time i ask a Gen X or a Boomer for career advice, the only thing they ever say is "you need to network more"? Is this basically a nice way of them telling me they have no idea and that i wont get a job unless i improve my blowjob skills?

>> No.9962040

>>9962033
the networking meme works. but it is a meme none the less.

>> No.9962065

>>9962033
100% true. Basically the only way to get your foot in the door in my line of work.

>> No.9962112

>>9962033
You gotta suck some dicks before yours gets sucked anon.

>> No.9962122

The absolute state of millennials. Guess what, kiddos, thirties are the best age of a man's life. All that 20 y/o pussy you'll never get just bends over as soon as we walk in the room. They look at you and they see their brother. They look at us and the see daddy. At this age you no longer give a fuck about any of those social stigmas you kiddos have anxiety attacks over. You know, that same feeling that makes you think the 30 year old boomer meme is going to bother us. At this point, we don't really care if a woman is interested in us or not and that only makes them want us more. Meanwhile, they're using you as a doormat. Sometimes I just walk up to a group of attractive women and say "Hi, ladies. Looking good tonight," and then just walk away. You little pricks don't have a sliver of that level of confidence.

>> No.9962173

>>9962033
The boomers are telling you to live in a nation with an order of magnitude less people walking and talking.

It is a novel notion, scale which boomer dissonance must integrate.

Projecting satisfies the blind.

>> No.9962196

>>9962065
what is your work anon

>> No.9962230

>>9962033
It's not who you know, it's who you blow.

>> No.9962248

>>9962033
cause networking is actually what you have to do. Every job application you fill online has 200+ applicants and your resume will probably get tossed aside. If you network though, you are way more likely to have someone give you an interview based on them knowing who you are i.e. you will stand out vs the other 199 people they haven't met. Life is gay

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>>9962196
cock sucking

>> No.9963091

>>9962033

Networking doesn't work for spergs. I'm no one. If you want a good job, figure out what keywords will get your resume into the next pile, and lie like a rug about your work experience and accomplishments. Just keep lying until you get the job you want.

>> No.9963107

>>9962033
The old adage remains true "It's not what you know, it's who you know"

Sorry if you're an introvert.

>> No.9963127

Networking is just a buzzword. No one knows what it actually means. Either you have rich friends or you don't.

>> No.9963145

You want to go really high it helps having friends.

>> No.9963233

>>9962033
Yes OP

You have two types of worker these days.

Brown nosers aka networkers.

People that actually know their shit.

Pick one.

>> No.9963883

>>9962033
You need real, hard skills to get gainful employment in 2018. Specifically, you need to have knowledge to execute something which others can not easily learn in under a year or more. You need to be able to do that well AND your skills need to be in demand.

think engineering, electrician, legislator, etc.

>> No.9964027

>>9962033
"network more" is just them telling you that the easiest way to get a job is if you know someone

>> No.9964075

It'a very true. Most higher paying jobs have the candidate chosen prior to advertisement. Advertising a role is a formality.
Find some sort of industry mentoring program or event you can enrol in or a course which offers industry experience.

>> No.9964155

>>9962122
>hi ladies, you look good tonight
::immediately walks away::

What a creap you are

>> No.9964228

>>9964155
Not defending him, but you fell for the meme. He doesn't give a fuck.

>> No.9964253

>>9962033
this is one of the few times when the boomers are right.

>> No.9964277

>>9963127

are you retarded? I networked (aka sent emails and had phone calls, even had coffee with some guys) my college alumni and they're the only reason I have my current job.

If you're socially retarded you won't make it in any field

>> No.9964415

OP my advice, if you havent already burned 4 to 5 yrs of your precious time and money at college then DO NOT go. I have a degree in chem Engineering and i make good money dont get me wrong but college in the us is the biggest meme/trap that the boomers have fed to us

>> No.9965326

>>9962033
jus bee urself :^)

>> No.9965341

>>9962033
its almost as if people like to do favors for their friends
fucking retard

>> No.9965405

>>9962033

When they network, they mean milk your friends and contacts for job prospects.

>> No.9965427

Boomers and Gen X came up under a totally different economic paradigm in a time when getting your foot in the door somewhere was more or less all you had to do while also being very easy. They literally don't understand what it takes to make it in today's economy.

>> No.9965642

>>9962033
"its not what you know its who you know" I heard this in college and now 10 years later it is still 100% true. unless you are ivy league educated you wont be hired anywhere unless you know somebody.

>> No.9965700

>>9963883
lol no, it's about someone getting you in
My last job was in some industrial type shit I've never worked in nor had any idea, yet a friend got me invited to a party and I got the job over dudes with 10+ years of experience in the field

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>>9962122
every time i do a lap around the bar i do finger guns: "hey hey hey ladies!" and then I leave for a bit. leaves them confused and they look at one another. PRECISELY 6.5 minutes later I make eye contact with one in the group and come right over (NO HESITATION: they smell the animal fear) and finger guns at her and say these exact words (no substitutions): "Drink you up, baby! Looking good, looking good." Then I waltz back to the bar and do a little spin to show em I can still get around even though I am older.

>> No.9965854

>>9963107
depends, a big firm will always take talent when they see one - not taking them in just means that they'll work for your competition

networking is a meme if you have nothing to provide, just focus on getting good

>> No.9965871

because it's true you naive shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe%27s_law
Except for the blowjob part - that only helps you in certain industries.
You wanna know why it works, it's because here's my childrens' pantomime explanation
>manager - 'I need someone who has x skill and is cheap'
>audience - 'he's behiiiiiiind yoouuuuuuuu'
>manager's old friend - 'I know someone, they use to work for me on the China project. Anon.'
>*anon puppet walks to front*
>manager - 'well if you worked on the China Project, then I can trust you Anon. You got the job'

>> No.9965892

>>9962122
t. 30 year old virgin

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9965898

I got my first job out of college this year. Applied to literally 150 companies. The one that accepted me had a reference I networked with. Anti-social autists don't belong in a civilized society.

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>>9962033
because the meritocracy was cannibalized by people giving their open positions to family/friends. It is now the only way to get anything above 60k starting pay

>> No.9965943

I wish somebody stressed the importance of networking to me when I was younger. Literally the #1 most important thing for success.

>> No.9965997

>>9965898
This

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>>9965427
>Boomers and Gen X came up under a totally different economic paradigm in a time when getting your foot in the door somewhere was more or less all you had to do while also being very easy.

The "economic paradigm" hasn't really changed. Its the same paradigm, with slightly different methods and pressures.

>They literally don't understand what it takes to make it in today's economy.

Thats not true for Gen X and its clear in the employment numbers. Don't go to boomers for advice unless its a book. Gen X will tell you how to do it, if you're too timid to try, its your fault.

And its not really hard. Get a book on how to find or get a job, the techniques for 30 years ago work just as well today

>> No.9966062

>>9962033
Higher level jobs have become too goddamn specialized. It often takes a long time before a new cog starts earning its keep in the machine.
The recommendation thing isn't just about hearing a second opinion, it's more leverage for the company. If you get recommended and do a poor job, you're soiling both your and your friends' reputation. You're more likely to try harder than if you were given the job yourself, this is HR 101.

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9966182

>barely scraped by school
>played video games 12 hours a day
>skipped pretty much every class
>2.5 GPA
>got a job thru networking
>$200k salary after 3 years
>delegate all my tasks to autists that value hard work
>sit at my desk and shitpost all day

m-muh intellect and hard work

>> No.9966197

>>9966182
this is actually true, if you have no morals and good social skills you can get a great life even if you aren't smart

>> No.9966255

>>9962033
>work with someone on another team at work for a week during down time
>they like how I act and the quality of my work
>hang out with one of his team members during down time
>one of them lets me know that their supervisor is holding interviews
>email their supervisor
>both of them vouch for me
>get a better job
N E T W O R K I N G

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>>9962033
That's because nobody cares about formal criteria besides weeding out the vast majority of people. It's a farce that is kept up to make it seem like things are controllable. All relevant decisions are made before the official meeting over a beer, the other shit is a mere act to calm the sheep. That is not only true for hiring but all decision making made by people smart enough to know how to play the game

>> No.9966443

>>9962033
Gen X here. This shitty job market, where HR fluff and a bazillion rounds of interviews destroy you has been around basically since my time. I've rarely gotten a job through applying to a publically advertised position, almost always its networking/nepotism. Really, my big break in becoming a coder happened after I married the daughter of a project manager at a giant company with a ton of connections.

>> No.9966463

>>9966182
no doubt your a fat useless office fuck though not real man
I bet your hands are as soft as silk
pathetic

>> No.9966470

>>9962122
unironically kill yourself
that was so fucking cringy
literally kill yourself mate, what a disgrace, jesus so cringeworthy