Coding Bootcamps

[Anonymous No.9937682]

Can some tech anons school me on coding bootcamps, specifically online ones.
>Which bootcamp did you choose?
>How much do you make?
>How long did it take for you to find a job?
>Did you already have a degree?
>Would you recommend it?
And yes I'm a shut-in faggot who should kms.

[Anonymous No.9937724]

Professional software dev here
You're too late to the party. Get a real comp sci education if you're interested, because the market is over saturated with "bootcamp coders" who can't program for shit.

The wages for those guys will keep going down as bootcamps churn out more idiots, and the wages for people who know what they're doing will keep going up.

[Anonymous No.9937778]

>>9937724
Thanks for the response, should have figured I was too late to the party. I guess i'll stick with community college courses.

[Anonymous No.9938072]

I went to one but got kicked out because I couldn't keep up with their weekly tests. Honestly the good ones try to get half their class from people that already know how to code just don't know how to look for a job. The other half is fucked because you realistically can't learn full stack in 3 months. I suggest learning as much as you can before you attend.

[Anonymous No.9938102]

>>9937682
Literally just go to college and study some easy bs degree and become a professor in flyover state. Good income and stable job. Also start going to church you stupid faggot.

[Anonymous No.9938283]

>>9938102
>Church
huh?

[Anonymous No.9938327]

>>9938102
I'm a pastor at the Chuch of Holy Titties

[Anonymous No.9938332]

>>9937724
What about for people who are actually competent with programming but never attended university? Do they still not get jobs?

[Anonymous No.9938362]

>>9938332
interested in this as well. i dropped out when i was 16 to help work and support my family but i can do things like binary search and low level stuff with c++ etc.

[Anonymous No.9938635]

>>9938362
I don't think we are going to get an answer anon.

[Anonymous No.9938778]

>>9938332
of course you can get jobs, you just have to showcase your skills. If you can't get good jobs, the problem is not your lack of degree but either: 1) thinking you're smarter than CS graduates when by self teaching you're probably inferior 2) not marketing yourself properly (i.e. have or contribute to projects, autistic problem solving, being able to communicate with other people, etc.)

[Anonymous No.9938843]

>>9938778
It's probably more number 2 because if it was number 1 then I wouldn't be the guy without a job. Where do people look for jobs anymore? Is the newspaper still a good option?

[Anonymous No.9939154]

>>9938635
>>9938362
>>9938332
Setup a github, learn marchine learning, go on arvix, search for all new papers in AI, and implement them. Then postulate. Thanks me later

[Anonymous No.9939168]

>>9939154
*apply not postulate.

[Anonymous No.9939420]

>>9939154
DELET

[Anonymous No.9939439]

>>9939154
thanks anon. i am a neet now. after i finish building some shit on eos, this will be my goal.

[Anonymous No.9939441]

>>9937682
>people thinking they can learn programing in a bootcamp

>absolute state of idiots

[Anonymous No.9939651]

>>9939441
desu as long as your not a brainlet you should be able to. i learned c++ from a textbook self taught and can do more shit than i see most "cs grads" do.

[Anonymous No.9940445]

>>9939154
sounds like a plan. thanks for the info.

[Anonymous No.9940489]

>>9938072
>can't learn full stack in 3 months
projection

[Anonymous No.9940532]

one does not simply become a programmer, you need innate interest in coding and talent. you cant force and should never foce yourself to do anything that does not come naturally to you

[Anonymous No.9940577]

>>9940532
What a fucking cuck

[Anonymous No.9940612]

>>9937724
>You're too late to the party
i work as a dba at a megacorp and we hire noobs from bootcamps.

>>9938362
these kinds of skills wont net you an entry level job. algorithms and low level stuff are for engineers. to be an engineer, you will certainly need qualifications. to get a dev job, learn things like design and popular technology stacks.

>>9939441
you can definitely learn programming in a bootcamp. programming is not hard dude. they should be teaching it to kids in elementary schools.

>>9940532
something tells me very few of us are inherently interested in working for 40 years to make someone else rich. sometimes you have to do what makes sense in this world where we must work to survive. in this generation's case, learning an employable skill like programming makes sense.

[Anonymous No.9940620]

>>9937724
What do you mean by boot camp coder who can’t program for shit?

I thought he boot camp was to teach you how to program?

Plz explain. Plz be patient I am stupid.

[Anonymous No.9940645]

It’s a good idea OP, if you’re into coding and programming.

[Anonymous No.9940753]

>>9940620
>I thought he boot camp was to teach you how to program?
The whole point of these programming boot camps is to give someone a rough, quick scope of programming. It's like boot camp, you don't learn much more than to survive and kill.

[Anonymous No.9941402]

Bump.

[Anonymous No.9941424]

>fell for the programming for money meme
>have to compete with 140 IQ hyper-autists who have been programming for fun 12+ hours a day since age 12

[Anonymous No.9941738]

>>9937724
Lead engineer here. I agree. We used to give some boot camp coders interviews for front end positions but the large majority fail the interviews. We have hired some exceptionally smart candidates with non-CS degrees, but those candidates were exceptional and did have technical degrees (applied mathematics, electric engineering).

[Anonymous No.9941787]

>>9940612
>to be an engineer, you will certainly need qualifications. to get a dev job, learn things like design and popular technology stacks.

What's the difference between a software engineer and developer?

[Anonymous No.9941845]

>>9937724
Don't listen to this moron. I went to one recently and 90% of the class ended up with great jobs around 80k or more a year.

[Anonymous No.9942150]

>>9939439

Why not on ethereum?

[Anonymous No.9942213]

>>9938843
Online job sites: Craigslist, Indeed, etc. Most people don't read newspapers anymore.

[Anonymous No.9942257]

>>9938332
They do. They just have to get past the tests and technical interviews.

[Anonymous No.9942258]

>>9941424
Very true.
The keyword is “leverage”.
Learn how to leverage others skills and resources to create something of a value.
After 15+ years in Software Engineering, i came to this fact. Wished i knew it when I was starting my career.

[Anonymous No.9942342]

I know someone who went to one for like a year and has an 80k job.
Seems useful if you're serious about it.

[Anonymous No.9942344]

>>9937682
Not worth it. Unless you have a cs or traditional engineering / physics degree OR a stellar portfolio of real world projects you'll always be thrown at the shittiest tasks with poos as your teammates halfway across the world. The bootcamp meme might have worked back in 2011, 2012, now its not enough

[Anonymous No.9942699]

>>9942213
>>9942257
Thanks anon. I'll look around. My luck getting job is about 10% so far.

[Anonymous No.9942909]

>>9937724
This. Funnily enough I had a client come back to me today after two months away. One of these boot camp guys that talked them into a shitty Squarespace website.

[Anonymous No.9943456]

Wow. After all this $LINK fudding I'm finally going to be able to drop some oldfag knawledge 4once.

I found about about coding bootcamps in summer '14 after seeing an ad for Hack Reactor in San Francisco. I did a bunch of research, and it turned out that that, along with App Academy were the two best in the area if you're optimizing for salary. It's no walk in the park though. Hack Reactor had a 3% acceptance rate at the time, but they allow you to apply every 3 months if you get rejected. These things take quite a bit of preliminary self study, which for me at Hack Reactor included doing the Code Academy JS track, the first three JavaScript CodeSchool courses (now pluralsight), and reading and understanding Chapter's 1-5 of Eloquent JavaScript, up to higher order functions (passing functions into other functions as parameters/arguments, the quintessential JavaScript/functional programming gotcha).

After getting accepted, there was 6 weeks of precourse, with weekly assessments, including building a small twitter clone using jQuery, HTML, and CSS to get the feet wet. So already before the course you're getting your feet wet with the tech stack. The course itself you can learn online, but it's the unifocused direction / accountablity structure that make you laser focus in on your goal (getting a 100k+ job in SF).

What separates the shit bootcamps from the great ones are the admissions severity (quality of the students) and the job search curriculum (cracking the coding interview / soft interview skills). This is why people from GA suck. It's a mill. A group of Hack Reactor alums created their own bootcamp module called Outco which disseminates all the juicy learnings of Hack Reactor's job search curriculum for anyone who needs a brush up on that stuff, including mediocre bootcamp grads. So, look into Hack Reactor, App Academy, and on the east coast, also Full Stack Academy.

[Anonymous No.9943475]

>>9943456

>Hack Reactor
>105k starting salary at 21 yrs old
>6 weeks
>college dropout
>depends on your financial situation, but yes. another route would be FreeCodeCamp and then once you have the tech skills down do Outco

Don't kys anon. Go for it.

[Anonymous No.9943511]

You're never too late. Don't be a fag, just teach yourself. Everything you need is online. Build a portfolio, then do some contract work to build connections and confidence coding. Sillicon valley is desperate for workers. This is a great time to be in Software. No credentials, low hours, massive fucking pay.