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Which platform is THE crypto standard for developers to build on?

>> No.9892594

>>9892589
EOS

>> No.9892598

Eth

>> No.9892602

>>9892589
EOS or cardano

>> No.9892606

eth

>> No.9892612

Nebulas and eth.
Vechain for businesses.

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>>9892589
ENG

>> No.9892623

>>9892598
>>9892606
>t. non-developers
Are you guys retarded? why the fuck would people use solidity (a language that has as many libraries as i can count on my fingers) as opposed to anything that compiles down to wasm?

>> No.9892624

icx/wan

>> No.9892647

>>9892589
the only one that already is.
nothing else in your pic has a single business operating daily right now.

>> No.9892649

>>9892623
> Why would anybody use PHP for webdev when there are perfectly good frameworks for Lisp for which you can prove correctness

Support, community, tools, documentation, libraries, consultancy, and on and on and on and on.

>> No.9892658

>>9892647
Give it a week for EOS

>> No.9892667

Ark

>> No.9892670

>>9892589
TRON obviously

>> No.9892674

>>9892589
Cardano.

>> No.9892684

>>9892649
Are you seriously implying that solidity has a larger community and support behind it than C++?

>> No.9892696

>>9892594
>>9892602
should I buy more EOS?

>> No.9892701

>>9892589
EOS and Cardano will likely be the most powerful platforms in 2022. Also they are both upgradeable platforms without the need to fork so the latest technology will just be added to them for as long as they exist.

>> No.9892709
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>>9892589
TOOOOOOMOOOOOO

>> No.9892716

Lisk, unironically.

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>>9892667

>> No.9892720

>>9892658
lol ok
meanwhile one of these has trillions of dollars worth of real businesses already running useful dapps on it

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Already has to most dapps. They are by far doing the best job to attract developers. DYOR

>> No.9892748

>>9892589
i find it funny that you clearly made this as a vechain shill

nobody cares about your scammy unapologetically and embarrassingly centralized supply chain coin FUCK OFF. it will not see any real mainstream success because it has basically none of the advantages that something like ethereum has.

>> No.9892750

>>9892589
>>9892684

Look at the number of tokens.
What percentage was build on eth? Almost every single one.

>> No.9892775

>>9892589
i shouldn't post this because biz isn't smart enough to get it
but here goes
there will be all of the above chains, and more
they will all have lower market valuations than at current
and there will be even more in development
because there is no real proprietary hurdle to launching the blockchain part of the smart contract equation these services will end up like cloud storage or like word processors
lots of options
not much profit

look for investments where there is a significant reason for a monopoly and youll get rich
it aint here

>> No.9892797

>>9892748
what are the advantages anon?

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>>9892589

>> No.9892816

TRX

>> No.9892818

You EOS guys should be aware that Parity already has a working version of WebAssembly running on test networks.
By 2022 probably every Ethereum network will support it. ELLA will be adding support for it in a month on mainnet.

>> No.9892820

The only platform that has serious development being built on top of it is eth and stellar. The rest are memes.

>> No.9892823

>>9892775
>significant reason for a monopoly
So not in crypto at all.

>> No.9892826

>>9892589
ETHEREUM

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>>9892623
>>9892684
You really are a dumb fuck.

>> No.9892838

>>9892820
Somebody needs to so more reasearch!

>> No.9892843

>>9892820
name one serious development on eth
>cryptokitties
nice

>> No.9892848

>>9892838
Jesus the pajeetery when there's a green day is amazing

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>>9892589
probably ETH desu

>> No.9892867

>>9892748
How did I clearly make this a VeChain shill thread?

>> No.9892884

>>9892589
Ether
Bitcoin
OMG
In that order.

>> No.9892897
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9892897

>>9892775
What would you say about Ark?

>> No.9892906

>>9892720
which one brah? Which one?

>> No.9892921

>>9892823
there are a number of smart contract requirements that are not the on-chain platform
ironically (now) the on-chain portion is by far the least technically challenging part of the equation
if you invest in the chains, you may do OK
if you invest in what is needed to make the chains have real world value, you're selling shovels to gold miners

>> No.9892925

>>9892906
the one with trillions of dollars worth of real businesses already running useful dapps on it

>> No.9892926

>>9892884
>omg
>platform

Anyway the answer is that nobody is really going to be building anything at that time because most useful Dapps are already in development. Eventually people will realize that the market is saturated with shit already.

>> No.9892930

>>9892820
whats that? Prepare your anus for Dlive on the steem platform. Get rekt motherfucker.

>> No.9892933

>>9892589

Ethereum obviously. Or at least something that implements the EVM. ADA perhaps. Not EOS though, lol, it's a joke.

>> No.9892944

>>9892848
>pajeet shillery
>didnt mention any coins

>> No.9892947

>>9892921
What did he meme by this?!

>> No.9892949

>>9892897
ark was a great idea that is going to fail
raiblocks/nano falls into the same category
in emerging tech you have to invest in all of the things and some will become incredibly useful, others will end up being interesting but not turning out to create real world value

t. someone who sold ark at a loss

>> No.9892968

>>9892921
>selling shovels to gold miners
This is basically what Eth did.

>> No.9892975

>>9892933
> 15 transactions per second says

Sorry man, better luck next time. Act more mad though, it makes it more fun.

>> No.9892979

Neblio.

>> No.9892998

>>9892968
>This is basically what Eth did.

This is the correct answer. Cryptokitties killed an empire.

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KEK the state of biz, you're all delusional, the platform is going to be XRP codius... why build on any of these other coins when you have a platform that is directly linked to people's fucking bank accounts?

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>>9892818
>By 2022

Good timeline, really activates my almonds

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New meme image

>> No.9893033

>>9893011
because not everything in blockchain is your utopian world of one dentralized currency

>> No.9893050

>>9893033
Once regulation happens it will be.

>> No.9893071

>>9892589
none of the above, kys

>> No.9893078

>>9892921
>number of smart contract requirements that are not the on-chain platform

What are those requirements? What is obvious to me are law knowledge about ICOs and marketing in crypto space.

>> No.9893081

>>9892589
What platform are currently the vast majority of devs working on I wonder

hmm what a difficult question

>> No.9893091

Neither. It’ll be Holo. It’s written in JavaScript so it has literally thousands of times the potential developers as Solidity (already has 40-50 dapps in the works) and will work much, much faster and more efficiently. They’re laying the groundwork now to be everything ETH was supposed to be. It’ll become the Google of the decentralized internet.

>> No.9893092

>>9893011
>the platform is going to be XRP codius

Sorry bro XRP is nice and all but it doesn't have dapps making it worth very little.

>> No.9893100

>>9893050
you're so dumb

1. blockchain as a globally adopted currency standard ain't happening for at least 10-15 years
2. there's more real world use in b2b blockchain

>> No.9893102

>>9893012
>>By 2022
>Good timeline, really activates my almonds
I was responding to the subject of this thread!
I also gave an example of an Ethereum network adopting WASM in a month. I doubt it will take that long for the rest of the Ethereum space to adopt it.

My point being, it is going to be very hard to unseat Ethereum. There is so much momentum and support behind it.

>> No.9893158

>>9893102
>My point being, it is going to be very hard to unseat Ethereum. There is so much momentum and support behind it.

Doing what exactly? LOOM seems to be the only potential of the platform. ETH itself is going to continue to deflate in value while something like LOOM will basically just replace it.

>> No.9893192

>>9892623
Well people do, it's by far the most popular platform.

>> No.9893198

>>9893158
>Doing what exactly?
I don't know the exact numbers, but isn't like 90% of the tokens on CMC based on Ethereum? With like 5% on NEO? There is a ton of stuff being developed.

>> No.9893212

>>9892684
Eth is decentralized and works. The programming language problem is overly exaggerated by people who don't do code theirselves.

>> No.9893233

>>9892975
Decentralization comes first, scaling second.

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9893243

>>9892589
Holochain

>> No.9893256

>>9893198
>I don't know the exact numbers, but isn't like 90% of the tokens on CMC based on Ethereum?

Yeah and all of them are pretty much competing with ETH,

>>9893212
> Eth is decentralized and works.

The only thing ETH is good at doing is spawning other things. Those other things will be generally better than ETH at everything.

ETH doesnt actually work for being something that brings value by itself. It only makes other things that usurp the original coin.

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>>9893092
You clearly aren't up to speed.

Google "XRP Codius" anon.

>> No.9893274

>>9893233
The ETH is not ideal because ETh is no more decentralized than Bitcoin. A couple mining cartels and a political figure like Vitalik and all you got is centralized shit.

ETH Classic exists because ETH literally reversed transactions to fix the DAO hack.

>> No.9893276

>>9893050
Ummm no.
If cryptos actually become a thing, it will be the death of nation states. There's no"happy" scenario where governments accept crypto and everything stays the same.
Governments are forced to ban all cryptos for their own survival. Eventually they will die out, because they can't really enforce it.

>> No.9893290

>>9893268
>XRP Codius

Oh shit I stand corrected. Thanks Anon.

>> No.9893312

>>9893276
>There's no"happy" scenario where governments accept crypto and everything stays the same.

Yeah me either, I cannot imagine one possible scenario outside of full blown technocracy in the long term. And just massive panic and bleedout by nation states short term as they cant control crypto.

Nobody is paying taxes on this shit. Its a joke.

>> No.9893342

>>9893256
>>>9893198 (You)
>>I don't know the exact numbers, but isn't like 90% of the tokens on CMC based on Ethereum?
>Yeah and all of them are pretty much competing with ETH,
Some are building alternatives ETH while others are building enhancements to ETH. But there are literally a ton of projects just building to run on ETH. Too many to list.
Many of them have said they can build on other platforms if they offer an advantage, but right now ICOs like the name recognition of ETH as a platform. It's less they have to explain to investors. That is the kind of momentum that is difficult for competing platforms to overcome.

>> No.9893359

>>9893274
The fact that eth classic exists, proves that eth is decentralized.
Literally all attempts of 'eth killers' are DPOS, which boast to be faster thanks to using servers. Nobody has been able to compete on even terms. What do you think, that Vitalik is just stupid for not using servers?
Skycoin sky fiber is actually a possible good alternative. The machines are still hosted by random people and each token gets their own blockchain with 300 tx/s.
Decentralization matters, we're not trying to find the next Amazon.

>> No.9893384

>>9893342
>ETH while others are building enhancements to ETH.

Ok so for example, LOOM is its own coin right?
Its built on ETH and it can do things a lot faster than ETH. Its superior to ETH and can run stuff like DelagateCall right?

So I am an invester and I have a limited amount of money. What do I invest in? LOOM obviously. But is LOOM better than other coins that are not off chain solutions?

Nobody is going to put money into ETH unless they have to. And if the only reason people have ETH is because the cost of gas then that is a major design flaw that something like EOS doesn't have.

>> No.9893388

>>9893274
>couple mining cartels
Not with PoS in a year

>> No.9893419

>>9893388
>Not with PoS in a year

Its supposed to be out in a couple months not a year. Dont FUD your own coin anon.

Problem with this is that they may decide to leave the min amount of ETH at 1500 .. Which is still a hell of a lot more nodes than 21 but is it really much better than mining cartels at that point?

>> No.9893543

>>9892589
None of the above

>> No.9893545

>>9893384
>So I am an invester and I have a limited amount of money. What do I invest in? LOOM obviously. But is LOOM better than other coins that are not off chain solutions?

Well I think projects like LOOM are interesting. It ultimately runs on Ethereum though. So my point to the original subject of the thread is that Ethereum is a standard that will be near impossible to unseat.

Also, I really believe when WASM is running on Ethereum most of these startup platform projects will become even less appealing to developers. As WASM support grows, you'll eventually have support for every random coding language some developer wants to create Dapps on.

>> No.9893561

>>9893243
Unironically might be this one though.

>> No.9893610

>>9893545
>So my point to the original subject of the thread is that Ethereum is a standard that will be near impossible to unseat.

LOOM has more potential than ETH itself does right now and its a coin of its own. ETH will always be in the background but ETH wont hold a lot of value outside of a platform to build things of value.

EOS was clever in its design as it uses airdrops to prevent this from happening. ETH on the other hand could be worth 1 dollar each while LOOM shoots to 1000.

ETH is not an investment coin. Its a developers coin.

>> No.9893619

>>9892623
eos can't even get their users to vote lmao.

btw what is eWASM

>> No.9893645

>>9893619
>eos can't even get their users to vote lmao.

EOS went live today as it broke past 15%

>> No.9893654

>>9893212
>programming language problem is overly exaggerated by people who don't do code theirselves.

>Cant even declare floating point numbers
>hnnggg problem is over exaggerated

>> No.9893674

>>9892623
Solidity will compile to WASM within a year. typical brainlet calling other people retarded lel

>> No.9893676

>>9893654
>>Cant even declare floating point numbers

wait wtf... ??
I hope this shit is a lie kek

>> No.9893686

>>9893619
>eWASM
Started 2 years ago. still no one is using it. just stfu.

>> No.9893704

>>9893619
>btw what is eWASM
eWASM and pWASM are the Ethereum and Parit implementation of WebAssembly. My understanding is eWASM is not as far along as the Parity version. I believe that is why Ellaism is forking to add pWASM support from Parity.

>> No.9893718

>>9893676
its not a lie...
try it yourself in remix ide

>> No.9893724

Probably Icon.

>> No.9893740

>>9893011
> he still thinks the biggest innovation/use case of BTC and Blockchain tech will be in the form of a virtual currency

>> No.9893751

Vechain will run it, no doubt.

>> No.9893769

Dapps bitches. DAPPS. DAPPS ARE THE FUTURE OF THIS SPACE. Currency coins or coins that cant run dapps are not going to survive.

And its not just dapps. Its going to be good dapps. Dapps that dont fucking suck. Dapps that do shit. That's the money spot.

>> No.9893804

>>9893654
Use fixed point math.

>> No.9893815

>>9893769
> coins that can't run dapps are not going to survive

But surely some of the DAPP coins must prosper for the platform itself to prosper. Wouldn't that mean that some non-platform coins will survive?


Also, I generally agree about the Currency coin bit, although I think that one coin (outside of BTC, which is essentially a store of value coin now and not a traditional currency coin) will survive. IDK how Ripple/XLM/Nano etc... will all survive when they all are trying to do the same thing in a very limited sector

>> No.9893830

>>9893769
Actually avoiding tax, privacy and censorship resistance are a pretty big deal. People in first world countries just don't see it yet, but they will once governments will fuck things up again.

>> No.9893886

>>9893830
I'm right there with you on this anon. And Dapps that get organically popular will convert every person into someone holding crypto. The more devious and under the hood the design the more people get dragged right into the shit storm without even knowing about it.

> Wouldn't that mean that some non-platform coins will survive?

I am bearish as fuck on pure currency coins at this point. I am even bearish on coins that cost money for every transaction because it will ruin any dapps potential.

I don't know anon. Pure currency coins are dead as far as I can tell. Privacy coins and meme coins excluded I guess.

> IDK how Ripple/XLM/Nano etc...

Ripple is apparently a dapps platform now too. Just learned this in the same thread a second ago. I am willing to bet XLM and Nano are going to announce dapps support in a month or two as well.

Just a gut feeling kek

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>>9892589
None of that fucking garbage. If you think otherwise you have bought into the ponzi. Those "platforms" are about to have their shit pushed in when Big Daddy is launched this year. Hold onto your Butts.

>> No.9893917

>>9893686
wow thanks for giving us your valuable interpretation of the README.

you do realize it takes more than just people using it to integrate it into the network? EOS went ahead with WASM right away and we're now just finding countless bugs in the interpreter and JIT that can buttfuck the network.

better to take time and deliver a well tested product than build hype with quick releases and worry about bugs later.

>> No.9893935

>>9893704
pwasm is further along at the moment but ewasm is also planning to deploy with sharding rather than on mainnet. different goals

>> No.9893941

ETC.

>> No.9893944

>only one
BTC
ETH
XMR
something not yet released

>> No.9893986

>>9893891
Holochain looks insane and I've got an insurance bag just in case, but this shit ain't dethroning anything anytime soon. Maybe a few years

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>>9892589
ETH

Followed by ZIL

There is also a TON of chinese stuff on NEO, but it isn't touched much other than the one billion chinks that use it.

EOS is gone.

Vechain is gone.

Cardano is gone.

ICX still exists and has some decent stuff going.

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>>9892589

>> No.9894119

>>9892709
Lol I fucking wish. Being slowly gooked to death with this shit.

>> No.9894134

Cardano is going to make it. Just own some. Buy it now. 12 months from now you're gonna say "shit, i should have bought at 17c".

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>> No.9894153

>>9892589
It will be an American company.

>> No.9894166

>>9892921

>>9892947
>>9892968
>>9893078
They don't understand what you mean. But they will understand some day, and when they do, they'll be priced out.
They mocked us, but not for long.

>> No.9894179

>>9894166
TONIGHT

>> No.9894190

>>9894138
Hoping this pulls an ADA once on the market

>> No.9894596

BTC - Old man still lives
HOLO - P2P Dapps. They should surpass Facebook growth at this stage
ETH - Smart contracts, huge dev network
ICON - Links all of them together. Korean is #1 crypto country on Earth so makes sense for ICON to be top 5.
WANCHAIN - The #1 Financial blockchain
MATRIX - AI blockchain of the future powered by biggest Chinese project on Earth
HARMONY - 100,000,000 tps powered by Google engineers using Google tech.
EMOTIQ - Natural programming language with most private transactions.
DGRN - All USA ICOs and B2B companies will adopt this
IOTEX - Future IOTA. IOTA is too buggy/broken. IOTEX does all IOTA does but comes with smart contracts and privacy transactions

>> No.9894604

>>9892589
a new one, it's not in this list

>> No.9894640

>>9892933

QTUM supports EVM and has its own x86 VM that supports languages such as Python, C++, Rust and Go.

QTUM really does need to market, it has the solid foundations of both Bitcoin (using UTXO) and Ethereum (using EVM).

Also has a quite a few decent dapps on it like Energo, Bodhi, Ink and even HalalChain.

>> No.9894672

>>9892667
This

It's integrated in 15 languages

>> No.9894688

>>9892670
This.

>> No.9895130

cant be chink if you expect it to be a standard, that rules out almost all of the ones in your picture

eos being fundamentally flawed and having a a large number of chink block producers also puts it into the chink category, and thats ignoring the fact that at any point they can decide to just steal all of your tokens or delete your dapp, something you would need to fork for and have user consensus in every other chain

>> No.9895257

Anyone that’s not saying Vechain is gonna feel that smack in the mouth in a few years

>> No.9895271

Ark or ARO (for PHP)

>> No.9895273

>>9895257
>chink
sorry, not applicable for the global market

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>>9893243

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>>9892589
Ethereum

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>>9892623
Non-developer detected. Developing in Solidity is sooo much easier and safer than writing smart contracts in C++ LOL

>> No.9895749

>>9892921

subtle rlc shill

although something like genarox or bluezelle might be important too

>> No.9895758

buy peng

>> No.9895762

>>9895692
of course, but even solidity isn't great. people saying that miss the point though, because solidity is already on the way to getting replaced by a python-like much safer language, and there's some progress on a fully safe functional one too.

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>>9895666
Nice Trips. And nice Post.

>> No.9895823

>>9892589

most likely one that hasn't been invented yet

>> No.9895838

Buy link delete this

>> No.9895843

>>9895781
HOLOOO

>> No.9895849

>>9895823
buying link is betting against all of these, because if there's 1 or 2 dominant platforms, there's no need for chainlink's middleman network

>> No.9895972

>>9893233
I place the scalability of my apps far above how decentralized they are.

Scalability is a real problem that every single development team must address in order to successfully launch their app. decentralization is just a nice to have wish list item that neither the customer nor the developer particularly care for. A platform which can’t scale by default is a pretty shit platform by most developers standards.

>> No.9895980

Xrp and codius is the only platform to support all common programming languages.

>> No.9896164

Cardano, no doubt about it

>> No.9896191

If ETH does die, it will be a very slow death. There's too much momentum for it to be dead by 2022, ETH is your safest bet.

>> No.9896374

>>9894596
>IOTEX.

Interesting. Will support anything coin proving to replace IOTA.

>> No.9896582

>>9895972

then use AWS faggot.

If it isn't decentralized it isn't a dAPP. It is a fucking app

>> No.9896584

>>9895972
Then just use a server and fiat money, why would you bother with a blockchain.

>> No.9897492

>>9892589

Obviously ARK. Why build on top of eth or eos or anything else when you can have your own smart contract platform for free?

>> No.9897843

holochain > blockchain
when it comes to dapps.

U can build blockchains on top of holochain checkmate blockchainers

>> No.9897926

>>9895972
kek. digitalocean is just over there anon. let me know if you want a referral link

>> No.9897928

>>9894596
im unicornically going to inveest 2000$ according to this list

im thinking all in on holo since i already got 2 mil

>> No.9897932

>>9895692
not my fault your to much of a brainlet to use c++. but saying that solidity is "safer" is straight up fucking retarded.

>> No.9897960

>>9892589
Cardano

>> No.9897967

footchain

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9897979

This is a HoloChain thread now.

>> No.9897988

>>9897932
With your logic most people should use Linux because it's 'better' , but obviously that's not the case.
I do agree though that you should be able to use whatever language you feel comfortable with.

>> No.9898051

the year is 2018 and ETH has already won, why is this even debated? zz

>> No.9898108

>>9892589
The year is 2022. No developers make any dapps. There's 50 new platforms though.

>> No.9898118

You all faggots have the same wrong answer. NEO is the correct one, unlike the original Solidity language in Ethereum, the NEO smart contract can be used directly by almost any high-level programming language. Supported languages are C#, VB.Net, C#, Java, Kotlin and Python.

>> No.9898138

>>9898108
I'm also surprised of the lack of dApps currently. Where are the obvious ones:
>dUber
>dAirbnb
>dE-mail

>> No.9898148

>>9895972
>dAPP
>hurrdurr who cares about decentralization

The absolute state.

>> No.9898161

>>9897988
well for enterprise based applications and anything thats important they should. Why do you think almost all servers are hosted on linux? the same way in which enterprise based applications (espiecially ones that have money at stake) should use time-tested, and proven languages. e.g. you wouldn't use javascript for the banks server-side code. You would use something like go, c++, java. solidity is popular and *easy* because its based off of javascripts nice syntax and limited features.

>> No.9898185

VeChain

> Can use EVM and port Ethereum apps
> Dozens of corporate partners
> Government partners in China and Europe
> Already running functional dApps on private chain
> NEO is already dead (check blocktivity dot info - literally project has no transactions)

>> No.9898198

>>9892589

Y'all will soon realise it's VeChain

>> No.9898223

ZIL and ETH are the only legit ones on the market currently, especially zil, which looks like the next step that the crypto space needed.

but there are some interesting new projects who could enter the market by 2019.

>> No.9898257

>>9894138
amazing project but already valued at 3.5b

>> No.9898281

>>9892589
VEN

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>> No.9898331

>>9894596
you fell for almost all the memes, except maybe harmony which is pending meme.

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Tezos biz fags