ALL ICOS ARE SECURITIES

[Anonymous No.9874213]

IT'S

ALL

OVER

[Anonymous No.9874221]

>>9874213
how can linkies ever recover

[Anonymous No.9874225]

but mutts aren't allowed to participate in ICOs anyway, so why does this matter

[Anonymous No.9874234]

>tfw I hold a series 7

[Anonymous No.9874244]

>tfw not a mutt

[Anonymous No.9874249]

>>9874213
I don't care.
Mutts btfo.

[Anonymous No.9874259]

>>9874213
but they've been saying for the past few years that cryptos aren't money, they're just chucky cheese tokens with no value

which one is it boomers

[Anonymous No.9874271]

dammit....and down it goes......well all in all i only lost $1000

[Anonymous No.9874289]

>>9874225
it's not just about the ico it's about the tokens you buy/sell on exchanges

[Anonymous No.9874294]

>>9874249
Mutts can buy securities they just can't promote them or sell them to other mutts.

[Anonymous No.9874307]

>>9874213
but how far does it go? ETH had ICO too at one point several years ago but now it's pretty much 100% utility
surely ETH can't be declared a security, that would be like declaring gold security

[Anonymous No.9874335]

>be a mutt
>land of the mutt dream where anyone can make it
>to invest in speculative securities you have to have net worth of $1 mill+ and a Accredited Goy Certificate, otherwise you can only buy post-pump bags that the kikes allow you to for your own safety

TOPKEK

[Anonymous No.9874349]

EVERYTHING IS ALREADY DUMPING

[Anonymous No.9874362]

Mutt exchanges BTFO

[Anonymous No.9874365]

>>9874213
>WE HAVE--WE HAVE--WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES, WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE WHAT WE DO

I am so scared from a burger institution

[Anonymous No.9874373]

>>9874213
and they enforce it how?

[Anonymous No.9874381]

>>9874294
That's a good thing.
The less power la creatura has, the less it can spread its corrupt aura.

[Anonymous No.9874401]

Commissioner STEIN

[Anonymous No.9874412]

ETH WILL CRASH NOW BIG SELL ORDER 9,000 ETH ON GDAX

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
I WANT MY MOM

[Anonymous No.9874413]

>>9874307
Eth forked from etc, etc technically had an ico. So Eth should be clear. Can't guarantee anything thou.

[Anonymous No.9874435]

>>9874413
forks of securities are securities.

[Anonymous No.9874439]

>>9874234
What does insurance have to do with anything

[Anonymous No.9874448]

>no one can sell and buy LINK
is this singularity?

[Anonymous No.9874457]

So bitcoin and litecoin should moon now right?

[Anonymous No.9874487]

the burgers will call it whatever they want but rest assured it wont benefit you the little holder but will benefit the big institutions. how dare you bypass established financial institutions by depriving them of their vig and monopoly get right back in that kitchen you wagecuck stop thinking you can be your own bank and flip me a burger.

[Anonymous No.9874521]

XRP will be the only one standing

[Anonymous No.9874532]

>>9874435
>forks of securities are securities.

This. People don't know anything

[Anonymous No.9874558]

is there a live stream for the blockchain meeting?

[Anonymous No.9874571]

>>9874213
Fake. And they haven’t even done the crypto part yet.

OP = Russian bloatlord

[Anonymous No.9874605]

>>9874213
La creaturas can go fuck themselves. The whole cryptospace will ban amerimutts and the rest of the world will go on without them. The sooner this happens, the better. In the current situation we have weakhanded americans dumping every time SEC says anything related to crypto.

[Anonymous No.9874607]

>>9874571
The transcript is literally on the SEC website...

[Anonymous No.9874647]

>Groupon ICO $20
>only rich people can buy ICO
>average joes fomos and buy afterwards
>rich people dump their bags on average joes
>average joes been holding bags since

[Anonymous No.9874661]

>>9874647
*IPO

[Anonymous No.9874700]

>>9874213
Kek no, will have to be done on a case by case basis. Tokens which give you no voting rights can not be classified as securities no matter what they are saying.

[Anonymous No.9874711]

>>9874647
jude.jpg

[Anonymous No.9874721]

>>9874412
Eth is not a security idiot. Some ICO's running on it are tho

[Anonymous No.9874727]

>>9874700
Not all stocks give you voting rights either.

[Anonymous No.9874744]

>>9874289
Just ban burgers from exchanges.

[Anonymous No.9874758]

>>9874721
brainlet ETH had an ICO. they couldn’t be more clear that ICO = SECURITY.

[Anonymous No.9874781]

>>9874744
I agree. They should ban us.

[Anonymous No.9874799]

>>9874758
So what? Coinbase gets a securities license. Coinbase is now legitimized by the SEC. Everyone buys Eth. We all make money. Our ERC-20 tokens are the real risk, because who knows if they'll block us from buying and selling on Binance. Maybe Coinbase will just list all of those too.

[Anonymous No.9874813]

>>9874727
Stocks are shares in a company you faggot retard

[Anonymous No.9874815]

>>9874799
you already committed securities fraud.

[Anonymous No.9874827]

>>9874815
I didn't buy into an ICO, and only the ICO sellers themselves could be prosecuted you FUDding dipshit asshole.

[Anonymous No.9874852]

>>9874758
The 3 point howey test is the standard for security classification, sec cant overturn the supreme court

[Anonymous No.9874882]

>>9874213
these faggot bureaucrats dont control me, and they never will
they can pry my crypto from my cold, dead hands

[Anonymous No.9874893]

>>9874813
Congratulations on knowing what a stock is. But not all stock has voting rights. Go look up google class B shares.

[Anonymous No.9874897]

>>9874815
>only the ICO sellers themselves could be prosecuted you FUDding dipshit asshole.
>>9874827
just like all the users of napster were arrested and charged. they will go after the people who set up the ico not those that part took.

[Anonymous No.9874917]

>>9874882
Or, you know, remotely wipe out your holdings. Either way works.

[Anonymous No.9874966]

>>9874917
>remotely wipe out your holdings
>doesn't understand blockchain
Boomer detected, probably paid FUDder from Jew P Morgan.

[Anonymous No.9874979]

>>9874893
You fucking retard thats not the point, my point is not to equate stocks with utility tokens
utility tokens do not give any ownership or rights from a company and is therefore not a security.

[Anonymous No.9875055]

>>9874213

>Much of what I have seen

I.e. not ALL ICOs, so the million dollar question is what ICOs are *not* securities?

[Anonymous No.9875064]

>>9875055
XRP of course

[Anonymous No.9875087]

>>9874917

> remotely wipe out your holdings

fucking boomer

[Anonymous No.9875098]

I kind of think BAT doesn't fit the facts of a "security" from what they've been saying.

Can anybody weigh in? It seems like it has a platform for its use and is made for a specific use purpose rather than just to be traded and monetized.

[Anonymous No.9875104]

SELL SELL SELL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.9875153]

>>9875064

XRP didn't have an ICO you brainlet.

[Anonymous No.9875219]

I don’t really get it...isn’t it already understood that ICO’s are securities? What does this even change?

[Anonymous No.9875313]

>>9875219
SEC is very worried about scammy ICO's. Also the whole sentiment of this townhall meeting is that they're going to be stricter about what are securities than we originally thought. Seems like if it's a token, there's a GOOD chance that it's a security, rather than just a chance.

[Anonymous No.9875337]

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1BRJjepNoqBGw

this shit is really not looking good honestly this bitch just basically said

[Anonymous No.9875343]

>>9874979
No, your point was voting rights. Go ahead and read your original comment.

[Anonymous No.9875381]

>>9875313
the real question is what can they do about it? decentralized exchanges are popping up more and more.

[Anonymous No.9875405]

>>9874532
>forking open source software means the creation of a security

[Anonymous No.9875409]

>>9875337
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.9875448]

Hahaha holy fuck is that black guy for real?
>axe you a few questions
>the po-leece

[Anonymous No.9875463]

>>9875448
based nigger

[Anonymous No.9875492]

>>9875463
TBF he right

[Anonymous No.9875518]

>>9875492
i only caught the end of it, it seems like the nigger was the only one that asked that question

[Anonymous No.9875528]

>>9875098
They gave you something in return for you funding them and you funded them with a hope of it increasing in price, its a security.

[Anonymous No.9875558]

>>9874213
i mean STOCKS are securities. did anyone think that the SEC is gonna be more lenient on shitcoins than on stocks? ppl can still trade stocks from home with ease, what does this even change?

[Anonymous No.9875581]

>>9875558
They actually can't. Need 20k to be allowed to daytrade.

[Anonymous No.9875585]

>>9874225
You'll be trying to sell your bags to accredited investors, who aren't idiots precisely. Your best chance to sell those Links bags is gone, at least you won't find enough stupid people in the US anymore, you'll have to look somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.9875586]

>>9875558
Stocks are registered, this requires all shitcoins to jump through SEC hoops which leads to them choosing winners and losers. Alternatively the crypto space can just cut Americans out which they should.

[Anonymous No.9875595]

>>9875558
I think you meant: SELL HOLY SHIT BITCOIN GOING DOOOOOWN REALD BAD SELL NOW ETH SECURITIESSSSSSS

[Anonymous No.9875609]

>>9875585
Most people who buy into ICOs aren't Americans to begin with. Those who are are circumventing controls meant to keep Americans out or are taking part in the really small ICOs.

[Anonymous No.9875619]

>>9874335
what more proof do you need, the entire market is designed around taking $ from dumb amerigoys

[Anonymous No.9875625]

>>9875581
$25k

And for accredited investor, $1 mill or earn 200k+ past two years.

[Anonymous No.9875666]

>>9875098
BAT has tried to claim that they are a "Utility Token", to which the SEC basically said that's just lawyer talk and doesn't preclude a coin from being a security

[Anonymous No.9875675]

>>9874435
>do ICO
>immediatly hard fork

me? I'm no security, trallallalallala

[Anonymous No.9875697]

>>9875609
They said that unregistered exchanges (coincidentally, they said there are no properly SEC registered exchanges) that offer coins that had an ICO are also in violation.

Basically any exchange that Americans have access to could be in trouble if they dont register.

[Anonymous No.9875714]

[Anonymous No.9875736]

>>9875666
wtf can they even do though?

[Anonymous No.9875765]

>>9875697
They said that? Source?

That's seriously fucked up if true

[Anonymous No.9875769]

>>9875714
Obama isn’t president anymore.

[Anonymous No.9875776]

>>9875666
>legal arguments that are critical for making laws
>no that's just lawyer talk

maybe if america just fell behind and got btfo out by china they'll realize how badly they fucked up in a few years

[Anonymous No.9875780]

>>9875666
Sub 1000 sats soon

[Anonymous No.9875944]

>>9875780
>>9874801

[Anonymous No.9875958]

>>9875769
How does that invalidate the image?
protip - It doesn't.

[Anonymous No.9875979]

>>9875769
Wait. Hold up. Was there an election? Who is president right now?

[Anonymous No.9876179]

>>9875979

Ted Cruz.

[Anonymous No.9876218]

Land of the free does it again!

[Anonymous No.9876222]

>>9875979
Hillary clintor.

[Anonymous No.9876630]

>>9875979
You wouldn’t believe me if I told you!!

[Anonymous No.9876773]

What is zil security or ico?

[Anonymous No.9876837]

XRP is so fucked lol they sold every single coin directly for a private company profit

[Anonymous No.9876881]

>>9875697
>what is a decentralized exchange

holy shit you're retarded. the SEC cant do anything about crypto lmao its like the DEA saying there gonna bust down every stoners door and take their dime bags, it's not possible, plus this is a global market with anonymity and VPN's. The SEC is powerless

[Anonymous No.9876892]

>>9875697
RIP binance

[Anonymous No.9876901]

>>9876773
who cares. if you never gave any info to an exchange when you bought it and used a VPN then they don't know you have it

[Anonymous No.9876914]

>>9876881
i see youre a cryptard with zero experience with dealing with SECniggers

[Anonymous No.9876913]

>>9876892
they cant do shit about binance because binance isnt in america and binance can just turn down US ip addresses and americans can use VPN's to get around it. there's no stopping crpyto

[Anonymous No.9876917]

>>9876901
Well.... But it should be worth at least 20 cents...

[Anonymous No.9876938]

>>9876914
so the SEC is gonna confiscate my mew wallet?

there's a reason he's vague, it's because if he went into details he would embarress the SEC by having to admit it's unenforceable to regulate an anonymous global cryptographic market

[Anonymous No.9877417]

>>9874758
How the fuck can you call someone else a brainlet when you lack basic reading comprehension?
>Most
>All
How the FUCK do you get these two concepts confused? You are saying that most = all, and that's something you should have figured out in fucking kindergarten

[Anonymous No.9877483]

does that applies to new ICO's only ?
how can you fucking enforce a law for events that already happen ?

[Anonymous No.9877486]

>>9876938
They can only get you if you try to sell.

[Anonymous No.9877520]

>>9874213
Link plz

[Anonymous No.9877543]

is it just burgers that are fucked? Whats the worst thing that can happen to foreign exchanges?

[Anonymous No.9877594]

WHAT'S THE LINK TO THE CRYPTO VIDEO
WHAT'S THE LINK TO THE CRYPTO VIDEO
WHAT'S THE LINK TO THE CRYPTO VIDEO
WHAT'S THE LINK TO THE CRYPTO VIDEO

[Anonymous No.9877634]

>>9876881
I was literally just reiterating what the SEC said in their townhall. Maybe you should channel some of that autism into reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.9877653]

>>9875765
The source is literally the topic of the thread. I don't have a video of it but if you watched the stream you'd have heard it too

[Anonymous No.9877777]

Does anyone here even know what happens if you invest in securities as a non accredited investor? Absolutely nothing unless the company you invested in decides to pursue you. Why would any of the ICO companies (who are mostly outside of the US) pursue me when they themselves aren't registered in the US?

[Anonymous No.9877818]

>>9877777
good post, deserving of the get
here, have some boobs

[Anonymous No.9877819]

>>9877777

CHECKED

[Anonymous No.9877832]

>>9877777

[Anonymous No.9877838]

>>9877777
Nice digits.

"Technically" there might be some legal ramifications for investing in a security as a non-accredited investor, but I agree that actually pursuing and punishing the people that bought ICOs/Securities is very unlikely. Like I said, watching the stream gave me the impression that the SEC wants to make the public more aware of the potential scamminess of ICOs, and that the SEC wants to start regulating exchanges that are accessible to Americans.

[Anonymous No.9877841]

>>9877832
he didn't waste it
you're a fag
and probably vegan

[Anonymous No.9878047]

>>9874213
Strange technologies that are still under going changes every few months is hard to label as a true security. It even opens up the new possibility of redefining in terms of what a security and how they work.
We need some time for Ethereum to scale and for EOS to get Dapps built. Holo to get Dapps built. They're speculative assets that are pretty much being gambled on.
It will be a disaster in a sense for decentralization if they demand KYC . Crypto is used for both good and bad exchanges. So is fiat, but nobody audits the IRS and federal reserve for printing money from nothing. Shit will be fucked if most of the tokens are declared securities. But some cleaning up is a possibility. Some of these are true scams.

[Anonymous No.9878088]

man these sec fags are annoying as fuck

making me waste money to prevent my eth from getting rekt

these americunts are going out of their way to fuck my shit up

[Anonymous No.9878140]

>>9874727
Man it must hurt being that fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.9878161]

>>9874259
chuck e cheese tokens are a security if you expect to profit off their rise

[Anonymous No.9878187]

>>9874213
*smirks at your coinsj you silly boys*

[Anonymous No.9878213]

>>9874917
No, not really

[Anonymous No.9878241]

tfw i'm only in BTC and airdropped alts

[Anonymous No.9878251]

>>9874335
>$1 mill+ and a Accredited Goy Certificate, otherwise you can only buy post-pump bags that the kikes allow you to for your own safety

ITS A SCAM

NONNONONO

[Anonymous No.9878256]

>>9874221
it's not a direct ruling that all icos are securities.

"MUCH of what i've seen...."

as long as a token doesnt offer staking rewards it's fine. Link is a utility token because the token itself doesn't guarantee returns. It's something you to have to be a node operator and provide data.

It works as the engine key of a car. Link tokens aren't a security, they're the key you need to turn on your car so you can make money as a Uber driver.

[Anonymous No.9878285]

>>9878161
Most of the tokens are digital chuckie cheese tokens if you think about it. Funds were raised through ICO's for supposed development of these different projects. Dentacoin for paying for dental procedures and Civic for a new identity theft. Blockchain has use cases. But it's treated as a quick get rich opportunity. SEC doesn't ant people to be scammed so they're doing their due diligence and cleaning up the scene. Weed out bad tokens and allow the ones that coincide with SEC regulations. Good luck taking away the technical aspects though. It's coded for decentralization and should always be that way. Scaling is the next step and smart contracts.

[Anonymous No.9878305]

>>9877777
Based

[Anonymous No.9878313]

>>9878256
staking reeards are completely fine dumbass

[Anonymous No.9878320]

>>9876914

You do know us non-burgers don't care about the SEC right? This just means there's a sell off as burgers exit, followed by burger tears as the rest of the world builds the future without you. Well done burgers! Such "freedumbs" you have!

[Anonymous No.9878352]

>>9878320
It's more of what the SEC can do to exchanges that allow US citizens (Binance being the big one) that would incidentally affect non-US citizens

[Anonymous No.9878410]

>>9877777
now im glad that chainlink is registered in the cayman islands

[Anonymous No.9878412]

It is not illegal for Americans to own a security. If labeled a security, no exchanges will be able to sell to burger's in the future without adhering to SEC rules. No reason to FUD here.

[Anonymous No.9878439]

>>9875337

4 Jew's armed and ready to pass laws and collect taxes.

[Anonymous No.9878487]

>>9878320
Well we really didn't do anything wrong. It's the lawmakers who want to fuck us.

[Anonymous No.9878672]

>>9878412
In other words, nothing changes.

It's literally fake news, that some faggots on here made up to prop up their "Muh golden bull!" bullshit.

From my point of view, crypto is worth the SEC wasting any energy on crypto, it's fine the way it is. The G7 said the same thing earlier this spring. It's meaningless.

[Anonymous No.9878747]

>>9878487

Burgers in the collective sense, of the majority goodgoy burgers that enable this kikery, and then have the nerve to lecture the rest of the planet. Specific burgers of course aren't to be held responsible for that.

[Anonymous No.9879049]

ICO=money printing=non legal

[Anonymous No.9879167]

>>9875581
only if you trade on margin

[Anonymous No.9879574]

>>9874917
>remotely wipe out your holdings
imagine thinking the world works this way

>*remotely wipes all your crypto*
>nothin personnel kid

[Anonymous No.9879638]

the SEC isn't even constitutional. can't we just hang them all and pretend they never existed?

[Anonymous No.9880116]

>>9874213
i'd like to see the kike bastards try to identify me as a holder of any fucking coin/token they classify as a security.
its something they will never be able to enforce.
i'll just sell on decentralized exchanges and they can suck my goy cock.

[Anonymous No.9880127]

>>9880116
Easy. Takes one simple query at the NSA to pull up all of your personal data along with your crypto holdings.

[Anonymous No.9880130]

>>9874234
>ID: 4Big06Wu

you really are a big guy arent you?

[Anonymous No.9880169]

>>9880127
speak for yourself. i dont have a digital footprint.

[Anonymous No.9880192]

>>9880169
>posts on 4chan where google tracks his every pageload
>thinks he doesnt have a digital footprint

[Anonymous No.9880275]

>>9878256
Cope harder

[Anonymous No.9880311]

if this is true, we can clearly attribute the recent dip to insider trading. shits manipulated, you will never win