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9656552 No.9656552 [Reply] [Original]

you need a real job now that crypto is dead. here is a cheat sheet:

Javascript - web apps, websites
Python - machine learning, AI
Java - Android apps
Solidity - ponzi apps
Swift - iOS apps
C# - microsoft apps

>> No.9656563

>>9656552
cause i'm stupid anon

>> No.9656571

>>9656563
unironically this
i'm a pretty logical person but i can't wrap my head around coding

>> No.9656627

I can code,I just dont code for employers who also hires pajeets and nigs

>> No.9656648

>>9656571
>can't wrap my head around coding
then you've either never had a good teacher or you are not "pretty logical" as you think

>> No.9656654
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9656654

33yo boomer here. I took BASIC in high school and loved it. Tried a couple times, half assed admittedly, to get into programming and when I look at the code of modern languages I just feel retarded and I don't like that feel. But hey like a true brainlet I'm an engineer now so it's all good.

>> No.9656668

>>9656552
Coding is not the goldmine it used to be a few years ago.

t. coder who got pushed out and now desperately tries to make his own project

>> No.9656673

I only have a 110 I.Q and ADHD. There's no way in a million years I could learn how to code, let alone get a good job in that field.

>> No.9656689

>>9656552
>lists languages
A more natural progression is to learn concepts, then do programming challenges, and then pick up languages as needed.

No need to torture yourself learning syntax like a Pajeet and end up writing spaghetti.

>> No.9656697

>>9656571
>>9656673
bitches it's not hard, you just keep fucking doing it until you don't suck at it
>t. cool guy FAANG fag

>> No.9656780

>>9656552
I never learned to code properly because I could never find a vanity project that was relatively easy to accomplish but also useful, but also wasn't a entirely a copy-paste job so I could learn how the actual language 'works' and solve problems myself.

If I could think of something that would take me under a week to complete but would be of real, ongoing use to me, I'd start learning to code.

>> No.9656788

I'm a shitty plumber and just started learning java basics through free university web course. I can't endure my current job much longer, wish me luck.

>> No.9656806

>>9656788
Plumber + PLCs /industrial controls=75 dollars an hour

>> No.9656811

>>9656780
Code a browser plugin that shows a picture of Oprah going "NUH HUH" anytime you go to https://4chan.org/biz

>> No.9656820

>>9656552
Nobody actually "knows" coding languages these days. You just need to know how to Google shit on StackOverflow to solve whatever programming dilemma you're having.

>> No.9656819

>>9656788
You'll be changing literal shit for metaphorical shit. At least as a plumber once you get home you can shut your brain off until next day / next call

>> No.9656834

>>9656820
maybe if you are a $40k/yr codeer that will pass, but not if you actually have to solve real problems

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>>9656811
Thank you Dante for showing me what the lowest run of hell is.

>> No.9656911

>>9656843
Are you gonna do it or you're gonna pussy out again though? In my post above I did mention that coding isnt what it used to be, both income and security wise, but if its something you wanna try, theres an idea that'll take you less than a week.

>> No.9656916

>>9656911
It's of literally no use to me though.
It's a shit idea.

>> No.9656943
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9656943

stop devaluing my profession scum

>> No.9656969

>>9656911
Like here are projects that might be useful to me but perhaps aren't complicated or too complicated enough to be learning experiences
>a automated batch sequencer that calls FFMPEG and transcodes and combines segments of long videos into one output file
>some kind of language analysis tool that takes James Pennebaker's research on pronouns and function words so I can create personality profiles of certain writers... maybe combining that with some kind of social media data scraper?

I can stop going to /biz/ at any time. these things might actually have time saving of value building functions!

>> No.9656975

>>9656648
Kek, this. You have to be a brainlet if you think you're logical but can't understand programming logic

>> No.9656984

>>9656916
by the way this is exactly how you will feel about the assignments given to you by your boss
get used to working on shit you don't care about

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>>9656834
Kek if you honestly believe this then congrats you're the asshole at work that does all of the hard stuff while all of your co-workers bullshit you to your face.

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9657032

Resources thread? Resources thread.

link to pic: https://mega.nz/#F!1R0QATqZ!Eb1_M5KC9gkxK6w32R2ETw

Programming:

Python:
https://www.youtube.com/user/schafer5
https://www.youtube.com/user/sentdex

Java:
https://www.youtube.com/user/caveofprogramming

Arithmetic:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCICVah765Gm0N0qGyaJSng

This guy is the best teacher on youtube, imo, for arithmetic. And start from the absolute basic foundations, like in this playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33zr1NQ7DeI&list=PLAi17iVpKWQS6YLG_bnZoqQBi_x9uo9m5 where his initial videos show how to use a number line.

Intro to Excel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mNwJkUYS9A&feature=youtu.be

I know it's hard to make time for this stuff, due to laziness or other occupations. But even 10 minutes a day is infinitely better than doing nothing. People who get good at this stuff aren't "smarter" than anyone, they're just much more driven.

>> No.9657047

>>9656984
Firstly how young do you think I am?
What in the fuck are you talking about, when you work you're getting paid - the motivation is there because you need food in your stomach and a roof over your head. You care because your survival is at stake!

I'm not going to put my time and productive hours into stuff of no utility for me. I have other tabs open with way more informative and applicable shit right now as I waste time writing this response.

>> No.9657077

>>9657032
I haven't seen this before. This is great, thank you.

>> No.9657110

>>9657032
>like in this playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33zr1NQ7DeI&list=PLAi17iVpKWQS6YLG_bnZoqQBi_x9uo9m5 [Embed]

correction: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAi17iVpKWQS6YLG_bnZoqQBi_x9uo9m5

>> No.9657138

Are programmers the tradies of the future?

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>>9657032
very useful, anon
you're a legit good guy

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9657948

I have a real job ($70k) but I started learning Python because I want to make trading bots. Wish I started earlier.

>> No.9658408

>>9657032
nice

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9658432

>>9657948
Tfw wrote a working trading bot from scratch but cant get any kind of job because autism and getting a job requires talking to people.

>> No.9658440

>>9658432
Find some coin to contribute to. WFH and minimize contact.

>> No.9658510

>>9658440
Honestly I'd love to if that coin could provide an income.

>> No.9658516

>>9656819
>shut your brain off
Was it ever on?

>> No.9658549

>>9656552
Already do, and have a degree.
Too lazy to get job, trying to freelance.
>have 28 websites
>one even has an amazon affiliate code
>none of them generate revenue
Anyone want to pay me in crypto to cobble something together?

>> No.9658578

>>9656552
because
1. no idea where to start
2. I figure it will talk a ton of hours learning and doing boring shit before i can even make anything worthwhile
3. I realize making anything worthwhile would take another million hours.
4. by the time i learn one of those platforms it will probably be outdated and everyone will be using some other shit
5. I could just watch porn instead

>> No.9658596

>>9658549
Why would you make 28 shitty websites instead of one good one that you actually maintain. They're probably all inactive and you're not doing shit to breed any life into them.

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>>9656552
Now that crypto is dead, you should make some crypto.

>> No.9658644

>>9656552
What about Golang? Is it even possible to start learning one of those languages without knowing any other or having experience in programming at all?

>> No.9658657

>>9656689
Good stuff anon, where should one start learning about programming concepts? What's the absolute ground 0 for learning programming?

>> No.9658680

>>9658657
read linux kernel source code and write a 3d graphics driver, then create your own C compiler

>> No.9658685

>>9656552
imagine someone told you about bitcoin in 2014

flutter & dart
DYOR

you're welcome

>> No.9658702

>>9656552

be real with me:

lets say i self study for one year , do a few personal projects and start applying for jobs - is it possible to get one?

i am a neet and already in my late 20s. i need a way out.

>> No.9658705

>>9658657

there are so many idiots in this thread
anyone who wants to learn how to program please don't listen to no one here
and if your only goal is to make money then you will be really miserable

>> No.9658713

>>9658702
If you get some low level certificates, then you will get easily invited. Everything else depends on your skills anon

>> No.9658716

>>9656820
This.

>> No.9658717

>>9658680
Reading the kernel sauce sounds infinitely easier than writing your own 3d graphics driver and creating a compiler, what kind of a sick joke is this anon

>> No.9658730

>>9658685
We've already hit peak Google. Now if it was Amazon pushing it, then we might see some real adoption.

>> No.9658739

>>9656820
that is the only secret no course or university will ever teach you and the single most important thing to undestand

>> No.9658747

>>9658730

fuchsia

>> No.9658774

>>9658657
I'm unsure what that anon was trying to get at, people do need to be more concise about how they code up an idea, but it takes time to become good at doing that.

Most compsci students will do 2 courses in their university which will introduce them to optimization of code:

1.Algorithms and Data structures: Here you learn what an algorithm is, how to measure an algorithm's performance, in order to make comparisons. This involves maths to do with exponents/logarithms, sequences and series, set theory, and calculus.


2.Discrete Mathematics: These courses are taught to compsci students to essentially show them how to model a solution to a problem, then test if that solution works under ALL cases (their taught different sorts of Proofs). This mainly involves Logic, set theory, and algebra.

Creating non-spaghetti code takes time to get the handle of. Just start by learning and doing.

>> No.9658808

>>9658702
also wondering this. I have a year left before I'll be forced to get a job. I really want to self-teach and try to get an entry level job but not sure if it's possible

>> No.9658816

How to apply for jobs? I'm 27 and in my final year of a software engineering degree. I think I can code decently for a student but have no idea how to break into the workforce.

>> No.9658850

>>9656552
what is C++ used for

>> No.9658900

>>9658596
>Why would you make 28 shitty websites
Because the domains were free.
I focused on crypto most of the time I could have been developing a single site.

>> No.9658935

>>9658816
Go to your school's job fairs

>> No.9658943

Wow, these retards can't even learn to code when 12 year olds are making android apps and writing linux scripts. Here's a way master any cs related skills. Find and read the documentation over and over until you understand everything. You literally don't need anything else.

>> No.9659149

>>9658943
I am about to graduate, pretty sure when I was 12 I could learn concepts faster and had more mental energy. but I get your point

>> No.9659560

>>9656571
Its muscle memory man.. like playing the guitar.
Pick a genre that interests you and just practise the scales man

>> No.9659839

>>9658432
>>9657948

lol I bet you didn't. I made one with Bloodhound for NinjaTrader and I know nobody else can achieve what I did.

>> No.9659859

I'm a full stack dev and have been working on crypto stuff for the last year

I have made so much fucking money lol

>> No.9660053

>>9656552

Because it's a shit job that's not worth the money.
t. Freelance code monkey. Kill me.

>> No.9660297

>>9660053
how is it not?