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ITT: Realistic predictions.
If this hits $5 EOY I'll be extremely satisfied.

>> No.9594430

Nice FUD

>> No.9594436

It can only hit $0 EOY

>> No.9594437

with this market we will be luck with 3

>> No.9594442

>>9594430
Not trying to FUD, just saying I'll be happy. I'll be even happier if it goes higher.

>> No.9594448

>>9594424
>If this hits $5 EOY I'll be extremely satisfied.
If this hits only $5 EOY I'll be extremely surprised.

>> No.9594449

dumping my 100k at $1, fuck that shit

>> No.9594457

F A T
A
T

>> No.9594510

$5 EOY is EXTREMELY unlikely unless something truly astonishing happens. The crypto market in general won’t allow a $100MM+ market cap project grow 20x.

The market is currently being used to siphon money from unsophisticated “investors” and “holders.” For Link to got to $5, it would have to actually be used in lots of use cases. This is extremely unlikely to happen in 6 months considering it hasn’t even been finished.

I’m not fussing, but I think $1 is unlikely even. I hold over 100k link tokens, but I think the entire crypto market needs to be, and will be purged prior to any success Link may have.

>> No.9594534

>>9594510
MOOOOOOOMM

>> No.9594540

>>9594424
i think 90 cents to 1 dollar is a realistic
100k bag holder here

>> No.9594548
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9594548

20 dollars end of year

>> No.9594567

>>9594510
What do you think we'll be at in 2019-2021?

>> No.9594576

anything >$2 and I'll be happy
anything <$1 and I'll be upset

>> No.9594645
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9594645

>tfw bought at over $1

>> No.9594649
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9594649

$15 eoy boiis

>> No.9594660

I still believe September is huge based on past info. If things fall in place $3 to $5 seems legit and would be pleased with that. Bigger deal to me is end of 2019, hoping for $15 plus.

>> No.9594690

>>9594567
It’s veritably impossible to know. Anyone making price predictions is pulling numbers out of his ass. I just don’t see much reason for price movement over the next six months unless some sort of crazy fomo is created for some reason. Remember, part of the reason ETH blew up so quickly is because of the ICO craze.

As I said, to me it seems like the entire crypto market is being used to siphon money. Lots of people don’t even try to understand what they’re buying into, they just want to get rich quick. I don’t expect Link to do much of anything for AT LEAST 15 months, but I really think it’ll more likely be 3 years. I can elaborate on why I think that if you really want...

>> No.9594710

>>9594690
Would love to hear your thoughts.

>> No.9594713

>>9594690
Yes I would like that. I've done my own research but I always love hearing the opinions of others holding the same assets I am. I am in LINK long term.

>> No.9594816

Can anyone redpill me on the guy with the Astro name? Seems like a violently insecure troll, but why is everyone engaging with him continuously when his faggotry just gets stronger? Is this like a new meta meme where you all love him ironically?

>> No.9594862

>>9594816
Violent? Yeah because im the one going around placing hits on people. Fucking asperger.

>> No.9594878

>>/biz/thread/S9339054

>> No.9594885

>>9594510
By the way, how is the market siphoning money from "holders"? By definition the holders shouldn't be selling in this market.

>> No.9594902

>>9594862
how are you in every fucking thread. Do you have notifications turned on?

>> No.9594906

>>9594885
I believe that means offering assets with no intrinsic value and no real plan to reach a profitable use case and selling them "early" to investors who will hold them for years as they miss deadlines and bleed to nothing.
eg 90% of crypto

>> No.9594915

>>9594424
If this hits $1 EOY I'll be extremely satisfied.

>> No.9594927

>>9594906
Thanks, yeah I see what you mean.

>> No.9594929

>>9594510
Very smart analysis and correct. To get to even $0.80 would be a miracle because really, one exchange means volume has to happen on Binance. With the bots turned off, the organic demand for the token is low, and would take a Herculean marketing campaign to draw interest. $0.70 is the realistic EOY target

>> No.9594961

>>9594929
I just want to leave a (You) since you’re an absolute brainlet

>> No.9594963

>>9594548
I'll kill you tomofaggot

>> No.9594973

>>9594929
you may be right
the sell side may also be thinner than you think...

>> No.9594990

>>9594710
Well, first off, Link obviously doesn’t have hype like Tron or Verge, so it won’t be pumped to a bunch of people through social media (if it is, I’d be weary of what’s happening). It may not be the BEST analogy, but I kind of view projects like ETH, EOS, Hyperledger, etc as “operating systems.” They are these environments in which lots of different tasks can be created/executed like Windows or Linux. I’m not sure how old you guys are, but I remember when I was younger having old computers with like...MS Dos that could run various programs (usually off of floppy disks). It was a HUGE deal when Windows 95 came out because A)it was so much more user friendly, and B) it was clearly geared a lot more toward networking (via Netscape, then AOL).

In other words, it was a gradual process to make a computer go from a simple tool that could read programs to a tool that networked to other tools and systems and had lots of internal capabilities of memory and such.

Shortly after Windows 95 came out, DSL and broadband internet really started to proliferate (I’d say around 2002 it started to become VERY ubiquitous). This enabled the internet to begin to become a tool that was really used for real world utility and when APIs (basically tools for sending/processing info over the net) started becoming EXTREMELY valuable. In my analogy, this is the point where something like ChainLink would have started to garner major use.

As time went on, computers and internet got faster and entire companies started gearing everything toward a digital paradigm to improve their businesses.

Bring us back to now, if there really is going to be this technological revolution from the decentralization paradigm, it is going to take time. The Microsofts and Apples (Ethereum, hyperledger), are just starting to garner use cases. We are still quite far away from companies understanding how smart contracts can transform their business model...let alone using them en masse.

>> No.9595007

>>9594424
What's with this stupid fake logo meme?

>> No.9595027

>>9594990
You are trying to be reasonable in a market full of /biz/ brainlets and normies. If LINK has good staking returns and some of the partnerships are legit, it WILL moon. The speculation factor is just too big in crypto.

>> No.9595028

>>9595007
its not a meme you fucking brainlet. its their alternate logo.

>> No.9595038

>>9594990
I agree. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

>> No.9595056

>>9594961
Am I wrong? You’re gonna double your money at $0.70 and that’s a best case scenario right now. Main net is not ready, the contracts aren’t ready. Debate me or shut the fuck up

>> No.9595060

>>9594424
>Realistic
>$5 EOY
nice fud

>> No.9595063

If the mainnet is up and working and there’s good traffic on it - past $10. If it isn’t? $0.00. Pretty binary.

>> No.9595067

>>9594902
There's more than 1 of us using this trip.

>> No.9595072
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9595072

Honestly I would be extremely surprised if LINK was over $0.30 EOY. And I'm saying that as a LINK holder. Nothing can beat a bear market.

>> No.9595078

>>9594424
fu $1000 eoy

>> No.9595084

>>9594990
This is exactly why I maintain that we are still in the early adoption phase of blockchain tech as a whole. We are barely out of the Prodigy bulletin board phase headed for the AOL phase. It took decades for the internet to become what it did.

>> No.9595091

>>9595027
Well, my thoughts are that there will be a watershed moment that washes away the stupidity (and that will wreck LOTS of people). So many people are being manipulated and taken advantage of, that cannot last much longer IMO.

>> No.9595093

>>9595063

I'd be happy with $10 desu. I don't plan on selling for years either way but $10 is the magic number that changes everything so I'd be permanently content past that point.

>> No.9595153

>>9594990
this is a reasonable viewpoint for a consumer product
however
the target here is generally business adoption
how aware do you think large business is of an asset class that could offer them 5-25% cost savings?
if you'd like a hint: what name does 95% of the f500 use for things like this?
https://www.ibm.com/blockchain/

>> No.9595159

>>9595056
We’re talking from now until EOY timeframe. Mainnet will almost certainly be ready by September-November (judging off GitHub and Pivotal). That means we will know staking returns and most partners by EOY. Now, if you’re invested in Chainlink, you probably know both the returns and partners have big potential with LINK. I just don’t see how LINK doesn’t moon if it’s on mainnet with good staking returns and big partnerships. I think $3-$5 would be realistic by EOY in that case. It’s very dependent on the state of the market ofc but I am certain we can reach $3.

>> No.9595172

>>9595028
No it's not. Show proof.

>> No.9595184

Also, staking won’t be lucrative for a long time. Mainnet being released doesn’t mean there is going to be a resplendent decentralized smart contract economy to consume billions of dollars of decentralized information in the manner envisioned by the team.

It won’t be lucrative until it is. And I don’t think it will be VERY lucrative for a LONG time. 5 years minimum.

>> No.9595231

>>9595184
Shut up. Rory said they have to get mainnet right in their one and only tru because that’s what “those they work with” absolutely demand. There is a huge demand for a legit oracle solution because tons of projects need it. There will absolutely be an economy (not directly at launch but soon enough). LINK is going to be huge if mainnet is well-executed.

>> No.9595234

>>9595184
Doesn't matter, just let your link build up and start selling proportions of your returns after it hits $1000

>> No.9595245

>>9595159
I personally have one of the bigger stacks here but keep everything on a hardware wallet so I’m not tempted to sell. I don’t want to plug that wallet in until it hits $10. But we’ll see

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>>9595072
We're not in a bear market mate. This is the golden bull run.

>> No.9595283

>>9595245
How many you got anon? I’m at 135k but still feel like a Linklet

>> No.9595331

How many tps will Chainlink be able to handle

>> No.9595341

>>9595283
jelly. did you get in at ico?

>> No.9595343

>>9595231
I’m saying what I think. I don’t care what Rory says. If you think an overnight transition, or even one in a year will happen, I disagree. I think people think years like 2017 will happen regularly...I personally don’t think they will. And I think crypto may become a more regular asset class once it becomes more legitimate. Right now it is a joke with all the market manipulation, pump and dumps, and ignorant investors with twitter handles like Crypto Jen and Crypto Steve parroting information about a project about which they have no understanding.

>> No.9595345

Why can't they start pulling double shifts, they're taking fucking ages with this shit. Fucking HURRY UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

>> No.9595377

>>9595343
fact. this piece of shit market is not 2017 any more. or 2013. all that momey has been made and everyone else is too late. and once it gets more regular, it will slow down, real money will get involved, and we'll slowly make it.

>> No.9595397

>>9595377
Burn

>> No.9596164

>>9595283
A little over 200k but still accumulating. Need enough to get into the big leagues

>> No.9596416

1000 USD EOY


CHECK EM DIGITS

>> No.9596429

FAT

>> No.9596432

>>9596416
You cant force the kek, let it come itself
Link $1k eoy btw

>> No.9596458

>>9596416
>>9596432
LINK 1$ EOY

>> No.9596465

This shit will stay below $2 for years.
Daily reminder: 1,000,000,000 LINK is the total supply.

>> No.9596486

>>9594424
It will easily be below a dollar EOY

>> No.9596527

>>9596164
I'm at 60k, just topped up during this dip. Am I gonna make it? In this for the long haul.

>> No.9596567

34 cents EOY
35 cents by 2028

>> No.9596611

>>9594929
>and would take a Herculean marketing campaign to draw interest


kek. it would take any updates on Twitter to drive interest. srsly. just a "Hey its Sergey, I'm alive" would see this spike 20% overnight.

It'll close out the year at $5-10. This market doesn't care about rationality, and once mainnet and even a half assed marketing effort kicks off the cheap LINK will be scooped up and we'll land in uncharted territory.

>> No.9596726

>>9596611
Blablabla. It's always the same stupid and baseless talk/speculation since this shit hit etherdelta.

>> No.9596832

How can we realistically hit $5 or even $10 isn't going to take a longer time for it to be fully adopted, most LINK to be held up in nodes etc. ??

>> No.9596866

>>9596832
Don't forget that the big nodes will get LINK from Sergey.
And you're right, we won't see any serious adoption for quite a while after mainnet.
$5 is a pipe dream.

>> No.9596897

>>9596866
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic because $5 being a pipe dream made me laugh but at the same time I don't believe we are few months away more like year or two. Link could easily be worth $100 if it works and smartcontract.com corners the market.

>> No.9596929

The FUD in this thread disgusts me. Chain LINK will enable a new generation of dApps capable of doing things that have NEVER been possible before. Things we simply can't imagine.

>> No.9596951

Also what was the timing with the ICO? Sergey said they've been working on this for a few years now. Would it make sense to do the ico after the project is nearly complete or when there's a bunch of work to be done. Was the ico purely a formality because it's a decentralized network or not?

>> No.9596987

>>9594424
$5 would literally be a 20x.

you have to be a FUCKING BRAINLET to even fantasize about that. or a delusional chainlink bagholder.

>> No.9597013

>>9596929
superior tech does not equal economic success. Lots of examples

>> No.9597032

>>9596527
If you have 60k and this even hits $20 you’ve got yourself 2 commas. It’s a long term play though, I don’t see $20 unless their marketing gets “serious”

>> No.9597035

>>9596897
Ok, you're deluded.

>> No.9597068

>>9597013
It's not superior tech, it's completely new tech. A disruptor.

>> No.9597079

>>9594878
Whats that?
Sum it up?

>> No.9597129

>>9597068
a middleware, built on existing tech infrastructure, without its own chain. How the hell is it a new tech. A new b2b service product maybe, but not new tech

>> No.9597159

>>9597129
He might mean smart contracts themselves, which obviously Chainlink didn't invent or even coin the term

Microsoft also didn't invent the personal computer or operating systems

>> No.9597211

>>9594990
Thanks man. Well said.

>> No.9597385

How safe are hardware wallets. How do I know the company making them isn't going to steal my keys.

>> No.9597402

37 cents EOY

>> No.9597539

Looking at binance, the 24 hr volume for link is a whopping 74 btc... is this real? no one wants to sell or buy linkies?

>> No.9597611

>>9594510
>>9594929
8/10 fud

>> No.9597635

what exchange can i buy some on

>> No.9597738
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9597738

fuck you and your shit link threads, this shit coin is going to die out

>> No.9597831

>>9597539
at $.35 nobody is going to sell. I imagine when it hits $1 a lot of people will dump there bags and it'll crash a little before really taking off

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>>9597831
>at $.35 nobody is going to sell.
Said every bagholder ever.

>> No.9597881

>>9597635
Binance, the place where the funds are safe

>> No.9597908

>>9595072
You are not very good at estimating things are you?

>> No.9598043

>>9596458
No joke, that would be very good and put almost everyone in the green. It's one of the most optimistic yet realistic scenario imho.

>> No.9598192

>>9597539
Everyone that knows has bought already.

>> No.9598251

>>9597881
bro LINK will never, ever get a binance listing gtfo

>> No.9598284

>ChainLink Crypto Fund
They put millions into LINK when they could have invested in any other project. They obviously know more about this space than we do. What other project has had this much 3rd party institutional money hoarding its tokens?

>> No.9598324

>>9594424
$1-5 EOY 2018
$10-40 EOY 2019
$100-300 EOY 2020

>> No.9598568

>>9597831
I've bought almost 500 between yesterday and today. But that's some linklet tier shit
>t.linklet

>> No.9598665

>>9596611
This sounds really dumb. Still can't believe people on this board are the only
Ones buying this coin lol wtf after all the dots nobody mentions it. Are people that post on this board even run a node. It's debatable

>> No.9598828

Oh boi, here I go cappin again
Keep em coming

>> No.9598884

>>9598284
This is critical.
Anyone selling LINK or being a nolinker will unironically want to die when the singularity happens.
LINK isn't just the greatest financial opportunity of your life. It's also suicide insurance

>> No.9599116

>>9594990
Riddle Anon here. Thank you for your insight, well reasoned. I disagree. Fintech is absolutely going blockchain within two years. ChainLink is targeting bond payments which are already done on digital agreements. Smartcontracts in my opinion are not comparable to internet. Contracts already exist, digital agreements already exist. You meantioned APIs, they already exist, smartcontracts already exist. The bottleneck is feeding trustless data into self-executing digital agreements.

>> No.9599137

>>9599116
Riddle Anon predicting three figures end of the year

>> No.9599146

>>9598284
>>ChainLink Crypto Fund
Things that never happened for 500

>> No.9599151

$1000 EOwho am I kidding

>> No.9599174

>>9594424

if you want the truth i don't think this will even see 1 dollar by EOY - look at REQ, a fully functional product with basically no adoption. Even if LINK gets real companies to try to use it, these companies generally take 2-5 years to implement new technology. Right now, I think LINK is a solution looking for a problem that no one really has.

>> No.9599181

>>9599146
they're registered with the sec retard

>> No.9599190

>>9599174
>to implement new technology
>not to utilize already existing middleware
2/10 fud try again

>> No.9599195

Big data is dismissed usecase for blockchain. Blockchain data analysis will be here soon. PSD2 opens baking data to 3rd parties. Blockchain is the perfect platform for storing data. And processing, think of accounting here for example. Everyone in the fintech is waiting for the APIs to open. Things will happen faster than many of us think.

>> No.9599201

>>9599116
Based Riddle Anon. You're a way better larper than Assblaster btw

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>> No.9599252

Insider here. No, literally, I'm INSIDE Sergey's stomach right now. He's eating everything. I'm seeing all kinds of things around me covered in gastric juices from severed heads to big macs to link cubes. Before I get fully digested, I just want to let all my fellow marines know that I can hear Sergey saying that the link token was never meant to be priced over $1, and that he is yelling at Ari and Evan to add it to the whitepaper. Goodbye frens

>> No.9599281

>>9598884
>muh singulary
Like a black hole, the price will to towards 0.

>> No.9599371

>>9599195
No one is going to buy your link bags.

>> No.9599468

>>9599116
thanks for the hope
>>9594990
thanks for the realistic perspective

>> No.9599498

>>9599213
$1.80

>> No.9599512

>>9599252
kek, i feel like this should be copy pasta if its not
good job Anon

>> No.9599519

>>9599116
> Fintech is absolutely going blockchain within two years.

Yup. AssBlaster linked to SWIFT documents from 2013, which basically stated: "We're going to transform banking via blockchain." Since 2013 motherfuckers

The PC/Internet analogy is tempting, but as Riddle said it's not guaranteed to apply here.

>> No.9599520

>>9599116
Based logical reasoning and bigger picture thinking.

>> No.9599552

>>9599281
Nigga you so dumb you even managed to fuck up the easiest FUD there is.

>muh singularity
>link will go to 1 satoshi

How the hell did you make that a "towards 0"... fucking amateurs

>> No.9599655

>>9595072
>completely forgetting that last year started with ETH at $7

>> No.9599782

>>9599116
>>9594990
I like how both of these viewpoints are very solid and reasonable. This is the best LINK thread in awhile.

>> No.9599799

>>9599655
>bull market
>crypto gold rush
>coin actually marketed
>coin ACTUALLY WORKS
>"but yeah link $100 EOY"

>> No.9599994

>>9597881
uh actually link was delisted from binance, the only place to get it is etherdelta or forkdelta

>> No.9600008

>>9599994
*Not Listed

There is a big difference.

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9600087

>>9599994
>>9600008
holy fucking shit dude I thought you were joking

what the actual fuck!?! how is this not huge news!?!?

>> No.9600335

>>9599116
Based. I trust this man

>> No.9600378

>>9599195
>Blockchain is the perfect platform for storing data.
AKA Database

>> No.9600466

I dont care what the price will be at EOY.
All i know is that Oracles.. centralised or decentralised will be hot shit this time next year.
They are a crucial piece of infrastructure for corporate smart contract adoption.

>> No.9600491

>>9600087
made me check

>> No.9600557

>>9594424
$10 at any point in the next 5 years would be amazing

>> No.9600631

>>9594510
>I think $1 is unlikely even
Jesus christ anon it could get to $1 by accident, when did you buy in fucking last week?
Why are bears so delusional

>> No.9600723

Jesus H Christ you fags are a bunch of homos. Big Macs and 0$

>> No.9600883

>>9599174
The problem companies have is how they can get our data onto the blockchain. Link solves this problem, even if its not known to them as the oracle problem

>> No.9601814

>>9595345
You faggots are truly the cancer of /biz/

>> No.9601889

LINK $0.03 EOY, enjoy your endless slow bleed

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>>9597129
>without it’s own chain
He doesn’t know

>> No.9601982

>>9597881
Brainlet, you are buying Chain’s link, not chainlink - enjoy your bags

>> No.9602022

>>9600631
He's just a retard FUDer

>> No.9602052

>>9599137
$3 isn’t triple figures

>> No.9602086

>>9595153
I think you underestimate businesses and their use of due diligence for things like this. There are plenty of intermediary "little guys" that they would go through after some NPV and cost/benefit analyzing and whatnot

>> No.9602112

>>9597881
>Chainlink
>Binance

Pick one.