/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.9411458]

>tfw depression starting to creep back up again

[Anonymous No.9411464]

Fall asleep at 11 and wake up at 7

[Anonymous No.9411482]

>>9411464
I don't even get done wageing until 2 some nights

[Anonymous No.9411499]

>>9411464
>have depression so anxiety causes me to stay up thinking about life
>cant sleep early
>wake up late
>vicious cycle

what am gon DOOO

i just need to make it in crypto and i'll be happy, r-right bros?

[Anonymous No.9411507]

>>9411458
>drugs
inb4 degenerate reeeeeeee drugs literally showed me how many potential mental patients are in my closer social distance (at work and uni... weeeeeeeeeeeeee lads).

[Anonymous No.9411514]

>>9411464
have you ever had depression. it comes to the point sleeping is painful and the only happy thought you can think of is putting a bullet in your brain so you can never wake up again

[Anonymous No.9411537]

>>9411499
excercise, everyday, and go for a walk, everyday

with you being some trashy neet thats infront of his pc 90% of the time and jerks off to yaoi hentai you should find time

if you do this, you will sleep better, if you sleep better, you wont have anxiety.

[Anonymous No.9411546]

>>9411499
>>9411507
Actually not just drugs. Fuckin moooooooooove too. Don't lock yourself into a basement and drug yourself up. Use the anxiety free window of they can give u to get a fuckin job... or a new job and friends n shiet.

[Anonymous No.9411597]

>>9411546
>>9411537
>>9411514
>>9411507
>>9411499
>>9411482
>>9411464
i cant even leave my basement because my alcoholic parents scare me

[Anonymous No.9411607]

>>9411458
>tfw market crashes so does my dopamine levels

[Anonymous No.9411663]

>>9411597
Alcoholics are the worst. My family used to have a liqueur store so i know these bastards. Cigarette smoking and drinking alcohol is literally the most intense normie slave thing a person can do. You literally obey and take ((their)) poison. Well man we both know the answer here. You have to overcome them brother.

[Anonymous No.9411755]

>>9411597
eat 3 meals per day and get bigger then your dad it will help you subconscious

[Anonymous No.9411841]

>>9411514
All I want to do is sleep, or a bullet....so I'm not sure why you say it's painful.

[Anonymous No.9411842]

>>9411464
I do this for work and I'm fucking miserable

[Anonymous No.9411855]

>>9411597
>>9411514
>>9411499
I have had depression and continue to feel it creep up at times. When it does I almost always sleeping in and staying up late. doing it once is fine, any more and your body goes into depression-mode.


>>9411482
You're fucked.

[Anonymous No.9412310]

Ketamine is the answer, use some of ur crypto gains to buy some from the dark net. Best thing i ever did. Lsd micro dose also helps but is more for anxiety. You will feel a difference after first ketamine dose.

[Anonymous No.9412332]

>>9411464
jokes on you, depression makes it so you can sleep for 12+ hours easily

[Anonymous No.9412436]

>>9412310
What dose of key do you take & how often?

[Anonymous No.9412482]

Any of you are as fucked as me, where you just constantly have a blank mind(no inner voice). This shit is the worst.

[Anonymous No.9412509]

>>9412332
Sleep is literally my only comfort.

Im fairly certain im at the step before entering depression world

[Anonymous No.9412573]

>>9412509
you have silent depression anon

[Anonymous No.9412634]

heard psych shrooms can cure depression and alters the brain. might try it and ofc read philosophy if ur not too depressed.

[Anonymous No.9412648]

>>9412310
>>9412436
would like to know this too, and how much does it cost?

[Anonymous No.9412652]

>>9411458
tfw final round job interview presentation tomorrow and im gonna be working on it all night and in terrible shape by the time i have to present it

just kill me

[Anonymous No.9412712]

>>9412436
Low dose, i dont go in the k hole. Under 0.1g maybe 0.05 i dont have a scale so.. I just do small lines until i feel good

[Anonymous No.9412724]

>>9412436
1 or 2 times a week

[Anonymous No.9412749]

had a hard time last few days as well.
went outside to get some fresh air and took some books for a read. really helped me a little, but depression will always linger so you better learn to cope anon

[Anonymous No.9412767]

>>9412648
Price varies widley between countries. I got 1.75g for like $200. Check dream market listings and buy domestic. I know netherlands is like $20 a g

[Anonymous No.9412913]

>>9411458
I know the feel bro. Drinking too much, giving up on dating for a bit because it never works. Hating work, focusing on crypto as an escape. We're gonna make it brah.

[Anonymous No.9412945]

>wake up at 7
>crushing loneliness
>failed attempt at socialization
>go to bed at 11

[Anonymous No.9413121]

Sleep is becoming an escape, I feel like crying but I don't. I don't want to be weak. I did an autism test and passed, HFA they told me. Great. People keep saying I'm smart, the test sais I have a 105 IQ. Barely notable, they prob say so because they don't understand me. My dad and mom are millionaires, my dad earns 5000$ a month (socialist hell hole here) and I found out my mom has a uni degree. My dad is really good at math and could have been an engineer.

They tried multiple times for a 2nd kid, then they finally succeeded. I wish they never had had. I barely have any friends, have no sexual intimacy, am not very bright, poor (900$ a month), live with my parents, ...

I tried killing myself once, chickened out. They kept asking my questions at the hospital. Why did you do this? I kept lying, over and over again. If I did not my life would turn into a living hell. My dad was at the end of his wits then.

Years later he tried to cheat on my mom, she forgave him. It's getting worse lately. I feel like garbage, I know I'm stupid. I know life is not fair. And here I am.

I don't really want to live, but I don't want to die either.

Why was I born? I'd rather not exist at all.

[Anonymous No.9413270]

>>9411458
I don't know man it's all pretty crazy. I'm lucky enough to have supportive parents who know wageslaving is cancer and not a good way to live so let me do what I want. I pretty much go to bed 12am-1pm and wake up around 10-11am. Fuck around researching crypto for a few hours (have all my savings in crypto) until wagie friends are out of work and then we do some fun shit most days, I'm /fit/ as fuark too.

Only thing is I don't have a GF right now. If I tried to get one she'd think I'm pathetic for not being a wagie, and I really fucking want a GF. So I just settle for one night stands at the weekends.

Sometimes I get a little depressed about a lack of purpose if I don't stay active for a few days but then I just think how everyone I know are doing bullshit jobs that mean jack shit and boy am I glad I don't have to do that.

I am still young, 20yo, so eventually (pretty soon actually) I will be a manchild who still lives with his parents if I don't make it from crypto and I won't be able to get a gf/wife because of that. It's a pretty weird situation, it has really big positives that make the downsides worth it, but I know soon if crypto doesn't give me a few hundred K to work with I am going to have to do something.. but I will enjoy this while it lasts.

Someone have some advice for me?

[Anonymous No.9413311]

>>9412712
maybe k hole once in a while tho. that shit is so fun. i've done it so many times and still can't even begin to describe it

[Anonymous No.9413335]

you didn't get addicted to unsustainable gains, did you anon?

[Anonymous No.9413422]

>>9413270

how much in crypto, anon?
just wondering if you're going to actually make it or not.

[Anonymous No.9413471]

>>9411458
I've been dealing with this over a decade and just got released from 2 weeks in a psyche ward. I'm here to talk if you or anyone want to chat about it

[Anonymous No.9413475]

just realize its all cyclical and will pass, dont be hard on yourself.

[Anonymous No.9413490]

>>9413422
$30k

[Anonymous No.9413492]

>>9412310
This can help but it's not an end all miracle cure. Combine this with therapy, exercise, and medication for best results

[Anonymous No.9413511]

>>9411458
Maybe you should consider killing yourself. I mean, it's an option right? Sometimes you gotta think about the rest of the world and whether everyone would just be better off without you. You know the answer, anon.

[Anonymous No.9413523]

You guys are weak faggots..this is why Tyrone gets all the wyte women.

I want you to get angry.
I want you to get pissed.
I want you to look in the mirror and say,"I am not a worthless neet. I am a human being. I am a goyim. I have a purpuse goddammit and I ain't gonna let the Jews stop me!"
Now remember $1000 eoy. Those fucking normies don't know shit.

Get to it anons. Quit being a bitch.

[Anonymous No.9413532]

>>9413511
I get that its 4chan and this answer is to be expected. But why man? Does this actually make you feel better? Surely something isnt wired right inside you if it does.

[Anonymous No.9413546]

>>9411464
> go to sleep @ 12pm, wake up @ 2pm
> then go to sleep @ 6am, wake up @ 10 am
> go to sleep @ 4 pm, wake up @ 2 am
I am this fucked

[Anonymous No.9413548]

>>9413532
Well, if that's how you feel, maybe you should kys too I mean... there's no shame in it.

[Anonymous No.9413551]

>>9411841
>>9412332
>>9412509
sometimes as soon as I wake up I think about about chugging mace instead of going to work

[Anonymous No.9413571]

>>9413532
Don't take it personal, it's just business. I want to eliminate my competition. This ain't emotional support group over here ya know.

[reluctant kneepad girl No.9413626]

>irrational exuberance creepy back

[Anonymous No.9413782]

>>9413471
have you found anything that helps?

[Anonymous No.9413797]

>>9413626
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.9414081]

Probably a different ID because I'm on my phone
>>9413782
As others have mentioned, ketamine can be useful for alleviation of very serious spikes if depression. But it's not a cheap or long term solution on it's own.
Getting psychiatric care and therapy on a regular basis has been huge. Finding the right medication and finding the root of my problems has made life feel liveable again.
Once those got me to a point where I wasnt actively suicidal, daily meditation and exercise have helped me get to a point where I'm actually enjoying life for the first time in a very long time.
Other things I've found helpful are volunteering and having pets. Helping others is extremely fulfilling. And pets have been proven to lower anxiety

[Anonymous No.9414832]

>>9413270
shut the fuck up you crying miserable cunt, you doing good. This is my advice.

Want to know what is miserable? I am 28. I spent my twenties recovering from a fucking crippling accident. Fucked me up good for life. I couldnt even get laid in my early twenties, I was around 120lbs at best and I got disfigured.

I started feeling time in the past years, I am old. Still not fully recovered, I will never look as good as I was before the accident. I never had the chance to experience life in my full potential and ohh boy, I was so handsome, I was witty, I was total chad. This experience gave me scars, depression and anciety for life. Now I am somewhat fit, not 100% healthy but 100times better than I was, have a loving gf for 3 years and I started investing heavily in crypto 5 months ago.

I would change with you anytime of the week. You have the wits to put money in crypto, chances are you will have a million or two by the age of 23 if not sooner, you are fit, you can pull bitches in bars, which is something 90% of 4chan cant do and most importantly you are young. You are doing very good.

Dont let you insecurities sit on your shoulder for long. Decent girls dont give a fuck about you having a job or not if they have fun with you and you have goals. If you make a girl love you she will do anything for you and honestly you sound like you got everything to do that. Big plus you have loving, supporting parents, that is golden. Dont treat them like they are basic, many of us never had the chance to experience loving parents.

You doing good. You are champ.

[Anonymous No.9415060]

I know how you feel.
What I found best for changing the mental state (Even without exersice) is MUSIC.

Put some good headphones on, and let your brain do the working.
My favorites:

Morning energy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIfxDoQDaFE

Morning cozy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV5jJrv2kjY

DBZ Power:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnMsK_PJYA4

Morning sunshine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONsaSQOUCyM

This two got me out of depression, They are journeys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udM1wOuEtoU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4YvkZeLrjs

Oh, and eat oats with your morning coffee.

[Anonymous No.9415101]

>>9411458
Now anons I know it is hard but you need to move out and have a life man. Get a jobs where y can work freely or sth, go jogging and exercise for some thing fresh may help y anons dont lock yourselves up that will end up with a bullet up your head.

[Anonymous No.9415351]

None of you miserable 4 chan fags will listen to this advice but Jordan Peterson is right.

Clean your room, wagecuck and have kids. If that doesn't work, then it's time for Mr Bullet.

[Anonymous No.9415692]

>>9413121
>I did an autism test and passed
Okay, so you can focus on things intensely. Nice
>105 IQ
Okay, so you are average. That's enough to succeed.
>Parents are millionaires
You are blessed with top tier genetics
>Make $900 a month
Wow! More than most people your age

Why do you hate yourself?

[Anonymous No.9415705]

For me it's the opposite. Crypto is the only thing that gives me hope for the future. I have no faith left in pretty much any part of the societal edifice. Credit ratings, the media, conventional health care, democracy... I think it's all bullshit. I think nation state democracy is completely beyond the point of no return for failure at this point. Russia and China are getting stronger, and so is the US shadow government. Our money is fiat, it's based on nothing... it's just numbers that central banks punch into a computer. I have no hope for an ideal future anymore, and since seeing the abysmal failures of Trump and BREXIT, I am now convinced nation state democracy cannot be saved even if it were worth saving. But I think that one day, satoshis will be equivalent to USD.

[Anonymous No.9415713]

>>9414832
I love you

[Anonymous No.9415735]

People with depression are so fucking annoying holy shit just take the godamn Zoloft already and stop whining

[Anonymous No.9415746]

>>9411464
>a good night of sleep cures depression

[Anonymous No.9415968]

>fall asleep at 4 am
>wake up at noon
>"well i just woke up, i can enjoy myself for a bit"
>3 hours pass before i blink
>"damn it's been 3 hours, i really should do something productive"
>cook and eat breakfast
>"just ate, gotta have some me time after that"
>dick around for 5 more hours
>"damn, suns going down. can't be productive unless there's daylight, everyone knows that! gotta enjoy my leisure time"
>eat and dick around for 8 hours
>fall asleep at 4 am
>wake up at 7 years later

[Anonymous No.9416002]

>>9413523
Hitler is the ultimate manlet btw

[Anonymous No.9416013]

>>9415968
Modern civilization is just completely fucked. It's hard enough to figure out what to do even when you have opportunities worth getting out of bed for in the morning.

Become a believer in crypto. Bend the knee and accept Satoshi Nakamoto as your personal financial saviour and free yourself from the banks.

[Anonymous No.9416030]

>>9415968
too fucking real, man

[Anonymous No.9416042]

>>9415968

DELETE THIS POST GODDAMNIT I COME HERE TO ESCAPE REALITY

[Anonymous No.9416815]

>>9415968
>"I really should do something productive"
>Cook and eat
Too real

[Anonymous No.9417655]

>>9415968
This was basically me from 18-25. I've just recently begun to turn it around after realizing that I've wasted seven years of my life. It's hard, old NEET ways are calling back to me. But then I remember that becoming a NEET was both the easiest and hardest thing I've ever done. It was suffering, but without any of the benefits and occasional happiness to be found in suffering to improve one's self and life.

[Anonymous No.9417727]

>>9411499
>have depression so anxiety causes me to stay up thinking about life

I have the same thing but think about death

[Anonymous No.9417758]

I am $80,000 in debt from a failed business but will pull myself out of it. You fuckers complaining about being a NEET need to do something about it. It's the only way. Would you rather be $80,000 in debt?

[Anonymous No.9417805]

>>9417758
what was the business?

[Anonymous No.9418062]

this thread has given me immeasurable comfort

[Anonymous No.9418072]

Feels like we won't make it bros. Crypto is slowly dying

[Anonymous No.9418075]

>>9417758
story?

[Anonymous No.9418089]

My performance and mood directly correlate with the crypto market. The question now is am I causing the price fluctuations or is the market causing my fluctuations?

[Anonymous No.9418352]

>>9411458
depression starting to settle in again
https://soundcloud.com/jomandasade/jomanda-sade-too-much-remix

[Anonymous No.9418542]

>>9418352
bump

[Anonymous No.9419021]

>>9418352
thanks for bloody ears, maybe the hearing loss will help me finally end it all

[Anonymous No.9419130]

all this fucking self diagnosed depression

90% of you literally just have to do the basics things in life and you'll be good to go:

diet, exercise, sleep, leave your house (having a bike is godlike for this one; backpack + snacks/water + a book/podcast and just leave without thinking about a destination)

Once you have that down (might take a few months or more to get in a good routine), teach yourself programming (web development is easiest). 6-24 months (depending on how smart you are) of a few hours a day and you'll be ready to find a junior developer job - there's so much demand in the industry that you have to completely fuck up to not find anything. Tough out the first few years in the job market to get some savings and build your skills, then transition into remote work/part time/building your own business (which only costs time because you're now a developer).

this is what I did and it fixed my life in 4 years (started at 21, just turned 25). I now work 15 hours a week to cover my expenses and spend the rest of the time going for bikerides in the sun, visit family, work on side projects (I want to do this fulltime eventually). I didn't even work hard for any of this; if you manage to have a better work ethic than me you can probably achieve the same in half the time.

[Anonymous No.9419180]

>>9419130
+1 for this anon.

My girlfriend has 2 sisters (well had 1 because she died in a car accident).

Now this other sister self-diagnosed that she has "Depression". Let me tell you what happened:

>She stopped working.
>Lives with her mother.
>Always pretends that she has so big problems because of the death.
>Everyone needs to support her in money and other stuff.
>She got fat, like literally fat (she is 2 or even 3x bigger than she was). Let me tell you one thing she looked fucking gorgeous.
>Always talks about what is the reason for people to work if you are going to die anyways.
>Asks everyone to pay her bills and shit.
>Now she got this stupid doesnt need to work paper which government pays her pajeet coins.

Im so happy i talked my girlfriend to cut ties with that shit. Now her mother always cries for help that she doesnt know what to do with her. No husband no nothing. Just sits at home and she is now shifted her sleeping. She sleeps on the day and is awake at night. Just sits behind a computer, eats snacks and burgers and watches TV AND FUCKING ALL DAY. Is this what it has come to? Fucking desperate degenerates who live off of other people.

[Anonymous No.9419197]

>>9411458
>tfw everything is so tiring

[Anonymous No.9419219]

>>9413121
Find a new lens through which to view the world. The nihilistic one you use now only leads to despair anon.

[Kekovicius !!seZ2sXABmE3 No.9419278]

Get a dog.

[Anonymous No.9419291]

just grow a beard and tell everyone trying to dictate your life to fuck off.
after you've fought off a thousand jews you'll be as good as new.

[Anonymous No.9419580]

>>9413551
I know that feel. When i had my old job i used to ride my bike there and i hoped for some of the incoming cars just to swerve in my lane and set me free.

[Anonymous No.9419873]

>>9412634
I tried it 2 weeks ago and it did actually improve my mood!

[Anonymous No.9419883]

>>9419130
>having a bike is godlike for this one; backpack + snacks/water + a book/podcast and just leave without thinking about a destination
Fuck off cringe master. You are the reason this place has become reddit.

[Anonymous No.9420105]

>>9414832
Stay strong brother! Good attitude!

[Anonymous No.9420119]

>>9416042
The sea of pepé

[Anonymous No.9420141]

>Anonymously complaining on an imaginary money trading board instead of doing something about it

[Anonymous No.9420143]

>>9419580
>actually crash one day
>now have to go work with a limp hand and leg
Please, please don't half arse it. This is hellx2