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NEETs vs. Wageslaves

Discuss.

>> No.9377447

>>9377418
Wageslaving is better for 99% of people I'd say. You have to be a profoundly well adjusted individual to handle NEET life without going insane or getting depressed.

>> No.9377472

>>9377447
I don't get how can you continue wagecucking without going insane or getting depressed until you're old and want to die anyway.

>> No.9377486

>>9377447
You're allowed to go outside, interact with other people, and pursue personal projects you know

>> No.9377523

NEET4life here.
Its 10:30 just got up. Going to dab up and read manga for a few hrs now. Might go outside tonight.

>> No.9377538

>>9377447
weird how i get depressed when I wageslave, and feel more productive and happy when unemployed (and trading crypto).

>> No.9377551

>>9377447
>You have to be a profoundly well adjusted individual to handle NEET life without going insane or getting depressed.

this x1000.

>> No.9377618
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9377618

>>9377418
Real version

>> No.9377620

>>9377472
Its pretty simple: You find a line of work that you enjoy. I don't get up in the morning dreading going to work, because I enjoy doing what I do and I get paid for it.

>> No.9377631

>>9377418
Both are shit

NEET is unsustainable and eventually a single fuckup will bring you to heel and make your life miserable (Parents dying, huge medical expense, government shutting off gibs, etc.)

Wageslaving is terrible because you'll always be chasing after a paycheck and will never actually be the one in control of your finances, always your boss.

If you don't try your hardest to become your own boss and make your own money life will be a shitshow that's governed by the success of other people.

>> No.9377664

>>9377631
>a single fuckup will bring you to heel and make your life miserable

elaborate please.

I think i know what you mean. your mind becomes an echo chamber of small problems til they huge

>> No.9377671

>>9377620
>a line of work that you enjoy
That's basically self-brainwashing into liking doing something you won't do under normal circumstances. I find labor inherently repulsive.

>> No.9377706

>>9377671
I guess you have no passion in your life if you think its brainwashing. I dunno how to respond to that really, because I grew up hacking and now I work in ITSEC. Yes, there are some aspect of my job that aren't the most enjoyable, but overall I get great satisfaction from my work.

>> No.9377796
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9377796

>Work three days a week doing upgrades on a system i sold to some company for a full salary
>Everyone at work is chill as fuck
>On my free days i pursue personal projects and keep riding swings to increase my shitcoin stacks
Feels great, i'm finally at a comfy position for once in my life

>> No.9377814

>>9377706

ever thought about phising for crypto? or some other crypto hack? u do know that it will make you a millionaire real fast right?

>> No.9377826

>>9377671
getting paid to hone my programming and problem-solving skills is the worst

>> No.9377859

>wake up at 8:30
>10 min walk to work, hit it at 9
>make oatmeal and talk shit for 1h
>"work" for 2h
>1h lunch
>work however long I want until min 16:00
>head to the gym or bar with colleagues
>repeat

All this with free lunch/breakfast on thursdays & fridays, salary, pension, office gear of my choosing, afterworks and 2 company trips abroad each year

Please neets, tell me how sitting home masturbating to anime beats this?

>> No.9377862

>>9377418
This gets debunked when you have a fully flexible work from home job.

t. Patent Examiner

>> No.9377866

>>9377814
I have ethics, anon. Life isn't all about money. I live very comfortably with my salary and investments. I couldn't live with myself being a piece of shit scammer. But yes, I do understand how lucrative it is.

>> No.9377918

>>9377866
well with your skills you could retire in a couple months

>> No.9377928

>>9377866
now now, no larping

>> No.9377981

>>9377862
this. Ive been crafting my entire IT career around landing a remote job.

>> No.9378024

>>9377918
If I didn't have ethics, I would probably be in prison by now. That or i'd have to have moved to a shithole country. Yes, I know I can make a lot of money. Again, its not about money for me. I enjoy what I do, and what I do also helps protect a lot of people. I'm more than satisfied with my career.

>>9377928
Yeah, not a LARP. But I understand how greedy people wouldn't understand why I wouldn't go directly for the most money possible. It simply isn't a major priority for me. I am comfortable and content. I guess a lot of people here can't comprehend that because they've spent their lives chasing money.

>> No.9378052

>>9378024
pics or gtfo, go back to class kid

>> No.9378098

>Fire department
>72 hour shift
>get 120 hours off
>monthly salary $6,430
>get free shit because "muh hero"
>never run into burning buildings because it goes against protocol
yeah, I can say I'm pretty comfy, we don't ever do shit but car accidents or medical shit. It's really chill and easy. All we do is training and exercise. I like it.

>> No.9378124

>>9377859
Being a rich neet definitely beats your routine. You can sugarcoat your job all you want but it's still a job. You might have 2 trips abroad but can you, say, just hop in a plane and go relax in an exotic country whenever you want? Yeah, I thought so. No more free than a caged bird.

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>>9378052
Not sure what you want pics of but this is my profile in the company directory.

>> No.9378171

>>9378124
I get the entirety of Christmas/July free if I want to + 1 week of my choosing. That's when I want to travel anyways. And what does it matter, you neets dont have any money to travel with so that's a shit argument

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>mfw forex trader/crypto investor ubermensch

i love forex, because it really doesn't fucking matter what the market is doing, what country is screwing up or whatever. im purely technicals and to tell you the truth i don't know what the hell is going on fundamentally with the central banks or any of that stuff. day in day out nothing changes for me, and aside from fiat collapse(crypto hedge) and massive regulation and limiting of leverage, i'll be set for life.

>> No.9378324

>>9377631
>If you don't try your hardest to become your own boss and make your own money life will be a shitshow that's governed by the success of other people.

if thats not the truest statement ive ever read i dont know what is

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>>9378200
Did you learn the technical analyses and trading strategies from a book? I've considered paying for a course with someone making live trades because it's just way easier for me to learn that way.

It sounds so interesting to me that you're so confident. I am personally confident in a lot of my investments but always have to concede some sort of inherent and non-trivial risk in them. I've heard that forex is different in that regard in similar terms to what you describe.

What quality of life can you maintain "for life" with your forex trading activity?

>> No.9378613

I’m very fortunate to be able live a lifestyle that combines NEET and wageslave. I can work remotely and most of the year I don’t have more than an hour or two of actual work a day. I also live in a nice city and can walk to my office in 15 minutes. Search for hybrid models.

>> No.9378685

>>9378171
Yeah, keep thinking that. I can make £2k per month tax free from home and only takes like 1 or 2 hours a day. Also there are plenty of rich neets here on /biz/. Do not mistake /biz/ neets with /r9k/ neets

>> No.9378720

>>9377671
>be biologist
>get paid to walk around nature areas

All NEETs I've met know nothing, want nothing, do nothing and play games all day that even they think are boring. I've met interesting people, but no interesting NEETs.

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9379431

Crypto investor is Ubermensch. I get paid by my masternodes around $6-9k/month depending on prices, and all I do is watch the money roll in.

>> No.9380038

>>9378685
>>"work" for 2h
wow bro a whole 3k per months u r really balling man

how can "wageslaves" ever compete with ur legit god-tier 36K a year income stream

fucking kek

>> No.9380150

Rich NEET is where it is at. Don't depend on the government. Get many millions. Diversify with many different passive income streams. Doing this will force you to learn and be a more interesting person along the journey.

>> No.9380447

>>9380150
This. If you have a high-paying, comfortable job, it's unarguably better than being a broke, dependent NEET. But if you're a NEET with money and no obligations, you can choose to do whatever you want, be it work or play.

>> No.9380571

>>9380150
True dat

>> No.9380613

>>9380150
I'm a wagecuck living with mom, but this is my aim.

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>>9377538
>happy trading crypto
well i guess its a kind of happiness

>> No.9380698

>>9377551
This

>> No.9380890

>>9380613
>the wage-neet

>> No.9380952
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9380952

>>9377418
the reality

>> No.9381017

>>9377447
this basically
there's nothing intrinsically wrong with the wagecuck life, surrendering to a higher power giving you some sense of structure and guidance can be positive, even necessary for many
neetdom requires extreme willpower (or extreme stupidity; i.e. nogs can handle being on welfare their whole life because they don't have abstract motivations)

>> No.9381165

Just be an eceleb. It's like being a NEET but you get money and fame from doing it.

>> No.9381532

NEET is basically living like a king if you can sustain it. If you're not intelligent you could fuck up really bad though. Beats being a slave any way you slice the pie, but it definitely poses it's own challenges I think people on both sides don't realize.

>> No.9381564

>>9380952
Truth