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8766928 No.8766928 [Reply] [Original]

>be german me
>make 41k € trading cryptos in 2017
>believe in the "le pay taxes when cash out" meme
>Finanzamt letter comes in April... "hey anon nice transactions you have there from and to coinbase, where the fuck do you have that money from, pay your fee and taxes"
>okay fuck, get tax attorney and pay up
>etherdelta trades on there too
>get huge fine and possibly 18 months jailtime because of unreported trading on an unauthorized market place
>owe over 80k in taxes+fines because I have a high salary and the fines are based on that

Fuck crypto, it is designed to rape everyone involved

>> No.8767029

>fuck germany
ftfy

>> No.8767031

>>8766928
Just move out of the EU. Literally, no country on the earth will extradite you to Germany, not even the US even though they have an extradition treaty.

>> No.8767055

Why did you not leave Germany or alternatively set up a offshore corporation to handle your crypto business ?

Why do you Germans always make this mistake of buying/selling crypto as a natural person instead of using a company structure ?

Make use of the EU and its wonderful options.

>> No.8767120

Germany is the most cuck country of the world. Even more than burguerland.

>> No.8767188

>>8766928
why do you owe more than you made?

also, your fault for using banks instead of cash, banks report by default

>> No.8767200

>>8767120
you forgot sweden

>> No.8767234
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>>8766928
Why do you think crypto ruined you and not the tyrannical German Goverment?

>> No.8767235

>>8766928
danke, endlich wieder batzen gras kaufen vom asyl
t. jamahl

>> No.8767240

>>8767120
This.

Don't let the Finanzamt intimidate you. They act tough and think that they are the IRS but in reality, they are a bunch of nu male soy boy pussies.

They even have security guards in their buildings because they piss their pants when a civilian gets loud.

Go hire one of the Big 4 to do your taxes for you. The Finanzamt doesn't fuck with the Big 4 since they deals under the table.

>> No.8767260

>>8767188
fines based on high salary

kann ich nicht einfach gemütlich auf binance traden und dann mal irgendwann wenn ich auszahlen will das einfach melden und versteuern? wieso ist das bei dir so eskaliert?

>> No.8767261

>>8766928
Why the fuck jail because of etherdelta?

>> No.8767273

schwacher köder 2/10

>> No.8767299

>trust normiebase
>get raped by the state
>blame crypto instead of the state

>> No.8767312

>>8766928
>trying to become rich in Germany
Thats where you fucked up

>> No.8767354

LARP

>> No.8767423

>>8766928
Just convert to Judaism or Islam and the German government will bend over for you.

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>>8767261
yeah, the post is bullshit LARP

>> No.8767533

>>8767260
Weil private veräußerungsgeschäfte gemeldet werden müssen, sofern du nicht hodlst und tradest.

Du müsstest sogar auf einen Buchgewinn in 2017 Steuern zahlen, sofern du einen Trade gemacht hast, auch wenn du nie Fiat ausgezahlt hast und sogar aktuell im Minus bist.
Verluste kannst du dann im Folgejahr rückwirkend geltend machen.

>> No.8767580

sounds like bullshit unless you did a massive fiat transaction to your bank

>> No.8767599

>>8767580
>t
"from and to coinbase"

>> No.8767607

imagine thinking you'd have to pay taxes on etherdelta trades

LARP

kys

>> No.8767615

>>8767599
yeah but how much? 41 k at once?

>> No.8767648

Hey neighbour, come to niederlanden. Literally 0 taxes.

>> No.8767684
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>>8766928
that's what you get for trading on verified exchanges.

For fucks sake, only trade on unverified exchanges like kucoin or binance and when you're don with crypto take your ledger and your ass outta your shithole and go cash out in a country that doesn't treat its citizens like slaves

>unauthorized market place
so fucking what? what do they want? to trade everything on (((their))) exchanges tied to your name and all the family members in case you die? FUCK THEM

>> No.8767693

What did you think living in a country where killing someone gets you a lower sentence than evading taxes.

>> No.8767709

>>8767261
Its larp
Gonna reply anyway
Do a robbery/hack on yourself and anzeige gegen unbekannt and fucking setz that vom dein steuerm ab

>> No.8767717

>>8766928
There is no 'unauthorized marketplace'

>> No.8767719

While it's sad to see German-bros getting fucked with taxes, literally everybody told them that was going to happen. Germany is a dismal oppressive nation and there was no chance the taxman wasn't going to fuck people over. Literally the only nation in Europe that's safe for crypto is Belarus.

>> No.8767732

>>8767533
So ein hart uninformierter schwachsinn
Aber okay haelt die noobs ab

>> No.8767759

>>8767684
Yeah that sweet inheritance tax on all that money that was taxed when you earned it
Hmmm o vey

>> No.8767783

>>8767719
German government made clear that mining income is not taxed
Crypto is not taxed if used as currency for.purchases (read: buying crypto with crypto is fucking fine)
This stuff isnt big enough, yet, to be oppressed fiercely.

>> No.8767851

To the guys who think I'm larping, I'm not faggots. I coud prove it but I'm way ti drunk.

>> No.8767858

Posting from german mobile ID in a train so basically switching connections every 10mins thats why I have different ids

>> No.8767913

>>8766928
Laber keinen scheiss, Bruder... das glaubst du wohl selber nicht. Wer soll denn die Informationen an le Finanzamt weitergegeben haben?!

>> No.8768023

>>8767851
>way too drunk
Well, at least it's confirmed he really is German.

>> No.8768070

>>8767913
in österreich werden überweisungen ab 50k (auch wenn in mehren kleineren überweisungen) von der bank ans finanzamt gemeldet. kein plan wie das bei euch läuft

>> No.8768089

>>8766928
Dann zeig mal her den Finanzamt letter.

>> No.8768119

>>8768070
in D mindestens ab 15k aber normalerweise schon 10k

>> No.8768127

>>8767240
>>8767709
>>8768089
Die Deutsch Englisch comments sind halt einfach zu geil.

>> No.8768183

Next time buy crypto with Credicard from abroad and open a bank account in Danemark/Italy that doesn't taxes crypto

Also, did you wire to your bank account that amount? You could just hold for a year...