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Will we ever live in a full-automated basic income society? I fucking hate work. I hated school and I loathed university and work makes me depressed and suicidal. I'm on my way to become an alcoholic because it's the only way I can unwind after a day of work. The times when I have off though I just feel incredibly happy and I need very little to survive. Cars, travel, whores etc, I dgaf about any of it, nothing feels as good as free time
> inb4 wagecuckery ideologues start to reee

>> No.8762118

>>8761906
>I'm on my way to become an alcoholic
good goy. honestly thats why there are a bunch of alcoholics everywhere in the world.
existence is pain for the masses. you work hard, the state takes 90% of what you deserve then they try to infect you with patriotic or religious ideologies.

the rich controls everything. you die a lil every day so they can shit on 24 karat toilet seats and drive cars you cant even dream of. I know a rich bastard who pays 500 bucks every fucking day to a company and that company brings him 2 different girls every fucking day. 365 times of the year. 2 different girls.
He is not even super rich, just an average rich asshole who inherited everything and born with a silver spoon in his ass. Just like any other upper class asshole who shakes his fists and say stupid shit like "I worked hard and I deserve this"

we should kill the rich. we need a global peasant rebellion. these rats building super safe bunkers in the middle of london. Keeping private armies in thier own gardens. Bribing congressmans and cops to keep you under control. You are on a leash, like a dog.

They are infecting your suburbs with mentally ill, religious fanatics, terrorist, migrants, with anything that keeps you uncomfortable. Divide and conquer. We are all just peasants in a chessgame. No not even peasants. A fucking cattle.

You will work till the day you die. Retirement age grows every year. When you hit 90 you will still work for pennies in a fucking diaper.

>> No.8762128

I can imagine it happening in a country like Japan in 200 years, but other than that speculative fantasy, no, it's a pipe dream.

>> No.8762133

>>8761906
No we won’t suck it up you fag
I think about killing my self every day because I hate my job so much but you don’t see me crying on a faggot image board for faggots

>> No.8762145

The lesson here is you should be saving and investing in passive income schemes so that one day you can in fact do that. Or you can be sad about it now so that when you're older everything still sucks and you'll die that way.

>> No.8762174

>>8761906
I agree 100% with you, this life is torture. I constantly berate my parents for bringing me in this world where my only choices are to suffer in poverty or wageslave to make someone else rich. Fuck this shit.
Its fine if you enjoy working, but not everybody is built for this shit.

>> No.8762203

>>8762145
>passive income schemes
give me one example that is not real estate. Where I live a basic total not fancy 2 room flat costs you like 300k usd.

>> No.8762208

>>8762174
Yes pathetic pussies like you should starve to death or die of exposure or be eaten by a wild animal. This is how it used to be. Civilization was a mistake.

>> No.8762301

>>8762208
This is not a civilization, this is is disguised slavery.

>> No.8762311

>>8762133
Well, what are you doing about it anon?

>> No.8762318

>>8762301
You wish it was slavery. Slavery doesn't give you the chance to realize you are too stupid to be a free man.

>> No.8762358

>>8762318
Slavery gives you the chance to realise you had better not existed at all, which is exactly what this is.

>> No.8762370

>>8761906
In a full-automated society the people that own the automation won't need you. You'll be erased along with 7 billion others.

>> No.8762390

>>8762311
Probably gonna kill myself. Idk I have a 401k so maybe I’ll be able to retire in 30 years.

>> No.8762411

>>8762358
Wrong. Freedom causes nihilism in the weak and gives you the opportunity to realize you are too stupid to find your purpose in the world without it being force on you externally. Slavery gives the lower classes a purpose in their lives that would otherwise be spent rolling around in the mud feeling sorry for themselves because nihilism.

>> No.8762432

>>8761906
>Will we ever live in a full-automated basic income society?

No, because people who own the automation technologies are not going to want to pay for you to sit on your ass.

>> No.8762447

>>8762118
Hecking kek I needed that laugh

>> No.8762455
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8762455

>>8762118
D O T R
O
T
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>> No.8762461

>>8762411
slavery forms them into externally driven beings boyo

>> No.8762469

>>8761906
Get a hobby and try to make a living out of it. Pretty much anything can be monetized these days. People even make a living playing video games.

>> No.8762487

>>8761906
No, theres no point. Nature is a fascist, deal with it.

>> No.8762493

>>8761906
gtfo with your gay space communism bullshit.

>> No.8762522

>>8762461
Ah right, you believe the problem is systemic of the society in which we live and not human nature. Sorry I bothered.

>> No.8762524

>>8761906
Look man, all memes aside, here's the cold, honest truth. Life is fucking hard. Especially if you want excellence, it will be fucking hard.

Do something besides wageslaving to become financially independent and happy. Invest in stock options, crypto, a startup, etc. Start a business on the side. Make new friends that support you.

You are the result of all of your actions in life. Wherever you go, there you are. You can't change the past, but you can change how you go about life in the future. Make the damn most of it and don't waste it on fucking whining and complaining about life all the goddamn time.

Read "Man's search for meaning".

Again, read "Man's search for meaning". This will help clarify meaning for your life.

>> No.8762534

>>8762203
Treasury bonds.

>> No.8762539

>>8761906
So what exactly do you do with the precious gift of life?

You lock up in your house and masturbate 6 or 7 times a day in between matches of fortnite or dungeon runs in wow, eat fast food and watch anime and series until u fall asleep?

You're not even human.
You the carcass of a man and I would take you out of your misery if it wasn't for this wretched society, Oney day tho, one day.

You will never enjoy true fulfillment and happiness after a long day of work, creating something, growing it into something worthy of respect, making love to a woman who is sexually attracted to you, not just physically but because of who you are.
You lazy and entitled, and there is no one to blame but yourself.

>> No.8762571

>>8762524
Good stuff

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>>8762493

>>8762524
>Read "Man's search for meaning".
Candide is also a good read

>> No.8762581

>>8762524
>read a dirty kike’s fairytale holohoax stories
Fuck off chaim

>> No.8762595

>>8762539
One day I will cuck you because you’re a small dicked little faggot

>> No.8762602

>>8762411
Wrong, freedom, real freedom makes you realise that you'd rather have nothing to do with this clusterfuck that naive idiots like you call civilization. Slavery is when you realise you can't escape the system which in turn triggers your nihilism.

>> No.8762635

>fuck over the working class
>leave them with no option to change system other than senseless violence
>gee, why are the peasants shooting each other?

>> No.8762664

>>8762595
Again, read "Man's search for meaning". This will help clarify meaning for your life.

If you truly believe that nothing you do matters, then what's the point of fucking doing anything? There is none. You might as well lay down and rot.

But if you act as though everything you do matters, and everything you do matters, then suddenly that's a lot more responsibility on you but the payout at the end is worth it.

Do you have any friends? A girlfriend/boyfriend? Family members that you're close to? I've found that meaning is often found in helping others improve and helping them feel better about themselves.

>> No.8762686

>>8761906
Lazy cunt piece of shit. You really think people would work for a Future were you can live like a parasite? You're not only lazy as fuck, but also stupid.

>> No.8762711

>>8762686
Btw, when I say helping others improve I don't mean "helping your boss make more money" or something like that, I mean a genuine relationship.

>> No.8762756

>>8762602
I am no lover of modern civilization anon. You refuse to recognize the freedoms you have right now which is no one's fault but your own in an age of unprecedented democratization of information. It boils down to the freedom of an individual to create or destroy. You currently experience both options but willfully choose to only see the option to destroy and seek death.

>> No.8762780

>please keep supporting a system that treats you like property!
>why would you want to disrupt the society that causes you suffering?

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>>8762595
You won't, because you're a nobody and you are too afraid of trying anything in life, that's why u lock yourself in your room and dream of a future when you won't have to come out of your room and you are provided for.

You're either a Coward or a half man incapable of competing with it's peer, or both.
The only person getting cucked here is you.

Enjoy ur pathetic life.

>> No.8762825

>>8762664
Eat shit and die kike

>> No.8762843

>>8762820
Lmao faggit im married and make $80k a year wageslaving. Suck a diseased cock and get AIDS you cunt.

>> No.8762869

>>8762843
shut up poof

>> No.8762890

>>8762539
>le roastie love meme
You permavirgin geeks are so obsessed with pussy because you view it as a hard objective, everyone who had enough sex in high school and college knows it's overrated and doesn't make you happy whatsoever, once you're over 20-22 it doesn't even feels as good as a good night's sleep

>> No.8762897

>>8761906
I'll just ignore the fact that 95% of what you wrote is pure caricature and just point out that you would do the EXACT SAME if you had the power. Stop making excuses for why you're some loser piece of shit and try to attain greatness yourself. Being a self pitying cuck is fucking pathetic and you should kill yourself immediately if you don't have what it takes.

>> No.8762908

>>8762897
I meant >>8762118
my bad.

>> No.8762909

Go do some manual labor, NEETS.

You might actually feel good about yourself at the end of the day.

>> No.8762922

>>8762897
I literally dgaf about some normies thinking i'm a loser as long as i could be comfy

>> No.8762929

>>8762890
sex is whatever, love is different.

need to find yourself a good conservative honest wife.

>> No.8762951

>>8762203
If I continue to build my business right, it will be passive. You build equity in a business and replace yourself with salaried employees and officers. Isn't that the dream?

>> No.8762973

>>8762118
Kill the rich and you will impose complacent leads upon yourself.

Kill those complacent with their vast resources, and you'll kill a lot of rich, but retain those worthy of wielding resource to the benefit of your societies.

>> No.8763023

>>8762301
Haha, in what fucking way? Young people make a little bit less but in 3 to 5 years, if you are not a dumb fuck, you should be able to pull in 70K and live comfortably in some fashion.

You can save money or not, up to you. I used to wash dishes for 10 bucks an hour. I had 2 roommates, cable, AC, and food. I drank, did drugs, and yes, for 40 hours a week I actually had to fucking contribute to society. OH NO!! Slavery! Just feed me while I play video games! Its only fair! You are the true cucks. Wagecucking is a meme. You are all completely fucked.

>> No.8763032

>>8762756
>you are too stupid to find your purpose in the world without it being force on you externally
>you currently experience both options but willfully choose only see the option to destroy and seek death

Do you not see your hypocrysy?Hurt durr, you are free to chose as long as you chose what I approve of. I absolutely seek destruction I am a product of this miserable existence that thrives on destruction, after all.

>> No.8763052

>>8762370
This. So hilarious to think that they'll just expend resources to keep useless cucks alive.

>> No.8763076

>>8762909
Are there any manual labor jobs that will pay $40/hour?

>> No.8763085
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>>8762370

>> No.8763093

>>8763076
Yeah, but requires knee pads.

>> No.8763104

>>8763023
I don't play videogames if that is what you were implying. And spare me the contributing to society meme, nobody cares about that, not even you. That's just a lie you tell yourself to get up in the morning and keep going. FUCK SOCIETY WITH A BARBED WIRE WRAPPED STEEL BAR UP ITS ASSHOLE.

>> No.8763107

>>8763093
Like for flooring installation you mean right? Laying carpet, tile, wood, and linoleum? That’s what you mean r-right?

>> No.8763122

>>8763076
Maybe, but it doesn't matter, you can still work your gay desk job and go home and do something with your hands besides finger fuck your phone.

>> No.8763137

>>8763107
More like polishing

>> No.8763158

If you want UBI, you’re going to have to work hard to get that implemented. I suggest tweeting #UBI. That should do it.

>> No.8763200

>>8763122
I get paid to finger fuck my phone at my gay ass desk job. It’s why I’m so miserable. I hate sitting here jerking my dick off at work with nothing to do.

>> No.8763215

>>8763032
>There are preachers of death: and the earth is full of those to whom desistance from life must be preached.
Full is the earth of the superfluous; marred is life by the many-too-many. May they be decoyed out of this life by the "life eternal"!
"The yellow ones": so are called the preachers of death, or "the black ones." But I will show them unto you in other colours besides.
There are the terrible ones who carry about in themselves the beast of prey, and have no choice except lusts or self-laceration. And even their lusts are self-laceration.
They have not yet become men, those terrible ones: may they preach desistance from life, and pass away themselves!
There are the spiritually consumptive ones: hardly are they born when they begin to die, and long for doctrines of lassitude and renunciation.
They would fain be dead, and we should approve of their wish! Let us beware of awakening those dead ones, and of damaging those living coffins!
They meet an invalid, or an old man, or a corpse—and immediately they say: "Life is refuted!"
But they only are refuted, and their eye, which seeth only one aspect of existence. http://4umi.com/nietzsche/zarathustra/9

>> No.8763266

>>8763104
I don't care about contributing in some fucking altruistic way you fuck. I accept that its ridiculous to think you should just be kept alive to shit post on the internet while the rest of us keep the world moving.

>> No.8763267

>>8761906

>alcoholic

right there with you bud. since i've been working full time i drink everyday to cope. many people do though, and i have no answers

>> No.8763284

>>8763104
If you say "fuck you" to society, be prepared for everyone in society to say "fuck you" right back.

>> No.8763309

>>8762370
>>8763085
I fully believe one day we will see sleek shiny space ships take off into the sky and then they will nuke us from orbit.

>> No.8763355

>>8761906
>basic income society
no

>> No.8763365

>>8763309
They already have “survival islands” set up. Gee, I wonder what they are for.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich

>> No.8763367

>>8761906
> I'm on my way to become an alcoholic because it's the only way I can unwind after a day of work.

This brings back memories. Used to have a shot of vodka on lunch breaks before I head back to the cubes. I made it my goal to escape wageslavery - started an Amazon store, built two software products (one SaaS, one desktop), invested in crypto. None were wild successes (I didnt cash out in time from crypto), but overall they allowed me to quit my job. Im on my 2nd year of working for myself, and only occasionally drink a beer, never felt better too.

>> No.8763421

>>8763266
I couldn't care less if the world keeps moving or not, in fact I'd welcome a collapse, I've got nothing to lose. And besides, I wasn't talking altruistically either.
>>8763284
Society can't say fuck you back because society doesn't even know I exist.

>> No.8763426

>>8762301
civilization is just human husbandry

and democracy is the most useful system to (((them))) because it makes the cattle falsely believe that they are free which makes them less likely to rebel and more tolerant of bad conditions "because we voted for this stuff"

>> No.8763461

>>8763421
Great, just kys then. Glad we settled that. You really have it all figured out anon. Unlike us stupid wagecucks.

>> No.8763470

>>8763426
Exactly.

>> No.8763507

>>8763461
Kill myself, now when society is on the verge of collapse? You're not paying attention.

>> No.8763534

>>8763507
“Collapse” is an illusion as well. It lets some of the cattle think they see the truth, but still won’t disrupt the system.

>> No.8763541

>>8763507
It's a controlled collapse, they are collapsing it on purpose so they can build up an even more dystopian system on top of the ruins of the old one

>> No.8763571

>>8763426
I might buy that if 100% of voters actually voted and it didn't work out. Essentially no one votes in local elections and many also voluntarily forgo national ones as well. Its not really their fault that we continually make it so easy to slip by doing dog shit.

>> No.8763583

>>8763507
For sure. I'm so stupid. Things always get so much easier during collapses and depressions for people who don't like to work with other people.

>> No.8763590

>>8762897
>greatness yourself.
and what greatness did you achieved today? or anytime in your life. got perfect score in your newest hentai game?

if you born poor and have no/shitty parents your chances are instantly negligible

steal a loaf of bread and see what will happen to you.

steal 50millions and see again

see what gonna happen to a hieress when she hit and runs your while family.

hypocrite

>> No.8763594

>>8763571
they control the education systems and media as well, they have made people complacent on purpose

>> No.8763613

>>8763534
Sure, but I want to see the cattle suffer, and pay for being complacent and maintainng the system.

>> No.8763623

>>8763594
Wow, guess I just didn't pay close enough attention since I own my company and vote! Didn't realize I had overcome so much adversity. Thanks anon.

>> No.8763654

>>8763623
You're a fluoridehead retard. Yes it is still possible for the common man to be successful but that is decreasing by every year. You're a literal brainlet if you're noticing your liberties and rights diminishing and how the dystopian tier mindcontrol is getting worse every year

>> No.8763698

>>8762539
Shut the fuck up.

>implying a man who says tho is physically formidable

>>8762890
Yeah I agree.

>>8762909
Not true. Worked trades for years and never felt that sense of accomplishments that the old fucks talk about. Wheuu I tied rebar, built a form, hoisted some beams. It's all fucking gay.

>> No.8763754

>>8763613
Then do it.

>> No.8763768

>>8763654
>fluoridehead

Thanks, it's really convenient when someone reveals themselves to be a foaming nutter with a single word like that.

>> No.8763787

>>8763768
this is what im talking about, youre an absolutely docile retard who believes whatever they tell you

fucking worthless scum, you desreve to be a slave

>> No.8764096

>>8763215
Nietzche sure was a colossal imbecile. Nobody should apologize for who they are, and how they percieve life. This only just reinforces my point. Conform or we don't want you.

>> No.8764148

>>8763787
If you can explain how ingesting ions of fluoride affects anything about my health other than changing some damaged hydroxyapatite molecules in my tooth enamel into fluoroapatite I'm all ears.

>> No.8764212

>>8761906
As a Germanic male, I think meaningful work can do wonders for your psyche. Stocking shelves for Shmuel Goldberg isn't meaningful work, though.

Find something creative. Men love to create things and shape the world to their needs. Ever thought about gardening or woodworking?

>> No.8764274

>>8764148
it gets absorbed in the thyroid gland in place of iodine which causes subclinical hypothyroidism and destroys your body

just go look at the literature, there are plenty of studies demonstrating its toxcicity in real world scenarios. It is literally more toxic than lead, it has a lower ld50

>> No.8764324

>>8763309
>>8763365
>tfw all they've been doing after building all the DUMBs since the 50s is improving technology and keeping it hidden from the rest of us
Nuked
from
orbit.

>> No.8764374

>>8762909
>Go do some manual labor, NEETS.
>You might actually feel good about yourself at the end of the day.

Bull-fucking-shit. I worked as a welder for several years, had up to 80hr/week sometimes.
Fucking hated everything, the payment was shit (3rd world country) and the only good moments in this nightmare were when i was able to just get some free time, to browse internet or play vidya. Fucking ''manual labour happiness'' meme.

>>8762370
>>8763052

Except nothing will stop people from seizing the automated means of production for themselves.

>> No.8764421

>>8763284
>implying they haven’t already
Fuck society full of kike brainwashed nigger faggots

>> No.8764440

>>8762118
...fuck

>> No.8764442

>>8764274
>"LD 50 is higher than lead!"
>lead requires extraordinary concentration in the body to cause illness

>Fluoride's LD50 is 10g
>Maximum concentration in tap water is .5mg/L
>Chronic fluoride poisoning arguably begins at 12mg/day though 20mg/day is chronic exposure guideline

Unless you have kidney failure, live in an area with untreated water from granite aquifers, or are drinking fifty pounds (24kg) of water a day, you aren't going to be injured.

>> No.8764612

>>8764148
>>8764274
>>8764442
The problem of personal liberty doesn't matter about what the flouride does or doesn't do. (It really is a byproduct of the aluminum industry and we need a place to dump it)

The fact is that we forcefully place it in the water and people take it entirely without affirmed consent. That is an obstruction of personal liberty.

>> No.8764669

>>8764442
>durrrr there is no long term harmful effect to drinking a shot of vodka every day

>> No.8764693

>>8764669
But there isn’t
I drink like 5 beers a day and I’m healthy as fuck. I know this bc I’m also a hypochondriac who’s had a shit ton of tests done recently.

>> No.8764760

>>8764693
lmao

>> No.8764804

>>8764612
>(It really is a byproduct of the aluminum industry and we need a place to dump it)

What the fuck are you talking about? Hexafluorosilic acid is what we use to fluoridate tapwater, but it's used as a precursor in aluminum production--it's not a byproduct.

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>>8762524
>Invest in crypto
>it crashes and you lose 60% of money you managed to save up in 2 years of wageslaving

>> No.8764846

>>8764669
You're actually supporting my argument, you're only supposed to use quoted text like that when you disagree. Drinking 1.5oz of 80 proof liquor daily will not effect your health at all.

>> No.8764924

>>8764846
hahahahaha you fucking retard

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8765958

>>8764924
Okay friend

>> No.8766635

>>8761906

Sage weak

>> No.8767721

>>8764820
holy shit this hit too close to home. except I lost more.

>> No.8767784

You commies are dumb as rocks

>> No.8767810

>>8763698

It feels a lot better to achieve your goals than it does to get paid to do some shit. You need a hobby anon. Get /fit/ or something, or read a book.