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Professional poker thread

So I'm attempting to make a living at poker.

I'll usually start with a stack of ~$100 and build it up to ~$500

Then I hit some bullshit like I have pocket queens and my opponent has pocket kings

every...fucking...time.

Any advice from any bros who can pick up on that shit?

>> No.8727784

>>8727765
>make a living
>$500
My advice? Harbor Freight has cheaper tools and knee pads.

>> No.8727806

>>8727784
Hey $400 in a space of two hours is decent living in my book.

>> No.8727816

>>8727765
Learn about hand strengths before going all in dumbass

>> No.8727828

>>8727765
poke is always up and down when you hit a losing streak take a break. When you are up try to play against drunks or buy the table drinks.

>> No.8727835

>>8727765
is this 2006?

>> No.8727848

>>8727828
Lol buy the table drinks, that's a good one

>> No.8727850

>>8727765
>professional poker
>playing low stakes
>unable to fold queens

Yikes

>> No.8727876

>>8727806
Well that sounds easy, guess we should all be playing poker for that guaranteed $200 per hour.
Oh wait.

>> No.8727885

>>8727765
Here's my advice:

1) You can count cards playing online poker. Learn to do that.

2) If you stop at $500 and re-start with $100 the next day and can make $400/day, that's a reasonable living, even with the taxes you'll suffer.

>> No.8727897

>>8727848
as long as its not really expensive if you play against drunks people get more bold and arent as sharp easier wins.

>> No.8727913

>>8727765
Quitting while you're ahead isn't quitting

>> No.8727929

>>8727765
i can tell just from reading your post you are not going to make it.

t. played fulltime for 7 years

>> No.8727937

>>8727765
Based on this post you're not ready. You're overplaying those queens too. If you have $100 QQ is an all in type hand. If you started with $100 and you're sitting at $500 and your opponent is sitting at $500 then it's an entirely different game. Learn the difference before you try to go pro.

>> No.8727957

>>8727765
in all honesty tho sell coke/crack/meth launder the money in poker games at casino. Those guys you see in the casino everyday guess how they got the money for it. Sorry boys secrets out lol.

>> No.8727968

>>8727929
I miss those days. One jackass politician ruined it all.

>> No.8727973

>>8727765
can u describe the queens vs kings hand?

what position and how did the action play out.

>> No.8728002

>>8727957
Or just sell weed and not worry about insane prison sentences that come with hard drugs?

>> No.8728028

>>8727973
Me utg with QQ Raise $25

Villian on the button re-raise all in

Me call all in with QQ

Showdown: KK vs QQ 2 outer

do not improve to trips.

>> No.8728053

> asking a mongolian basket weaving imageboard for help
> doesn’t even tell us any positions / action and expects good advice
> thinks live fish are going to jam with worse than KK

You’re not gonna make it

t. $10/20 live player

>> No.8728055

online poker is fucked but live poker is still super easy. complete noobs play $1-2 and have no idea how to apply relative hand strength. $2-5 is the same thing but instead of 0-1 competent players at a $1-2 game there are probably 0-3 competent players at a $2-5 game. Most $2-5 players never fold two pair+ even if there are potential straights and flushes. You can identify players that NEVER bluff in certain positions and you can print money off bet/folding against those players all day. I folded bottom set to a tight player that raised me on a board with a potential straight. He showed top set and he complained how I could fold a set even though my bottom set was a mere bluff catcher at that point.

tldr online is tough but live poker is THRIVING. Pay for some resources, study, and get good.

>> No.8728101

>>8728053
Do you have skype?

>> No.8728114
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8728114

>>8728028
>$1-$2 raise $25

>> No.8728116

>>8727929
Do you have skype?

>> No.8728183

>>8728053
how much different is 5/10 and 10/20 vs 2/5? I dont have the roll to give it a shot but I play at the Hard Rock in Hollywood Florida and I am confident that I am a top 3 player at every 2/5 table. I would say that the majority of 2/5 players at the hard rock are incompetent and don't understand the objective of betting. They don't know that a bet should either get value from worse or to make better hands fold. I try to focus on the incompetent players and not get in big hands with the other 1 or 2 competent players at the table unless i have a good hand and im in position.

How competent are 5/10+ players? are 8/9 players competent and are trying to cash in on one donk? Are people in live games with limited histories with each really making exploitative turn and river plays?

>> No.8728219

>>8728183
5/10 and 10/20 are pretty tough games. You're probably making more at 2/5 than you would at those. You never know until you try I guess.

>> No.8728275

>>8728114
explanation of my noobness plox

>> No.8728280
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8728280

>>8727850
>"attempting to make a living at poker"
>Jumping right into high stakes
>you being this much of a brainlet
>yikes

>> No.8728305
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8728305

>>8727885
>reasonable living
>$400/day -> $146K/year
>pic related, it's you

>> No.8728306

>>8728280
>not comprehending what he read
>replying to it with authority

Whoops

>> No.8728308

Made $3 last night playing .02/.04 online ama

>> No.8728320

real pros never gamble pre-flop AA to more than one player. QQ is no better than any other pair.

>> No.8728331

>>8728308
What site? Have you ever studied the game? What is your favorite characteristic to exploit?

>> No.8728498

>>8727885
>count cards
>poker

lol

>> No.8728637

>>8728219
How are people consistently making money at those stakes if everybody is somewhat competent? A greater understanding of deep stack leverage?

>> No.8728642

I have won 500k+ playing PLO online last couple of years while in college. Could have made at least a million if I dropped out of college. I wouldn't recommend online poker as career for anyone. It's extremely competitive, you will most likely fail, if you don't fail it will take a long time before you can make 6-figures, and the games are slowly dying online. If you're smart enough to make it to high stakes in poker you could most likely be making more money elsewhere working a less stressful and more rewarding job.

>> No.8728681

>>8727885
no taxes it's all cash. you dont have to tell IRS shit

>> No.8728690

>>8728642
That's my dads experience with magic the gathering in the early 2000s.

>> No.8728724

>>8728681
No they track you, even at the casino. You have to pay taxes.

>> No.8728729

>>8728498
>You can't count cards in literally every single card game

The absolute brainlets on this board.

>> No.8728751

>>8728305
You don't think $146k a year is a reasonable living? I think it's not bad. Can get by with a house and a kid or two on that.

>> No.8728768
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8728768

>>8728642
I highly doubt that because poker winnings are tax free which is a huge deal. Instead of paying 50% taxes of basic salary. In PLO majority of pros are surprisinly tiny losing or break even before rakeback, win rates are so low and rake is high. If i remember data correctly about 1 out of 10 pros were on green before rakeback

>> No.8728852

This seems like a good thread, hoping to learn something.

Slightly off-topic, what do you guys think about FUN? Seems like a pretty good fit for online gambling

>> No.8728931

>>8728768
You highly doubt what?

>> No.8728995

>>8727765
I heared Poker is abosultly dead in 2018 from a guy who used to make $100k+.Everyone is earing much less than 2 years ago.

>> No.8729050
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>>8728995
Laliberte alone has lost on full tilt and stars combined over 25 million. He was one of the main funder of high stakes online cash games during the times when the big money was made

>> No.8729068

Gus hansen has lost 25 million too online :)

>> No.8729138

>>8728768
I'm not LARPing if that's what you are saying. Poker requires a pretty similar skillset to trading/finance. With a good degree most high stakes online players could be making more in those fields (or something else). Unlike other jobs your "wage" as an online player will most likely only go down over the next few years. Also, you might not even have a job in 5-10 years because you've fallen behind the curve and/or because solvers/bots have made it impossible to make a living from online poker.

>> No.8729253

if you're not a winning player you need to do more research

if you are a winning player, then bankroll management is critical

if you have $500 bankroll, you should be sitting down with $25 max at cash or playing $5-10 SNGs.

>> No.8729274

>>8728995
where were you making 100k? I am sure that your live games are still beatable and pros are probably earning 75%+ of what they used to in live games.

>> No.8729279

>>8729138
I definitely have fallen behind, I used to make ~$800 an hour, but now I already said how much I'm stuck making.

>> No.8729455

>>8728637
It's been quite a few years since I stopped playing poker, but in any game the most patient players usually win. Most people overthink the game. You only have to change a few things and play a few extra hands to make people think you're something you're not. The guys winning at 5/10 and 10/20 are no different than the guys at 2/5, but they have bigger bankrolls and more practice. If you can win at 2/5 you can probably win at 5/10 and 10/20, but the players at 2/5 will always be softer. At 2/5 if I bluff and show a 27o then I'm known as the crazy guy for the next hour even if I flip up KK the next 2 times. At 5/10 and 10/20 they're just a lot less likely to fall for something like that. You guys are making me miss poker, but I really hate live play and I live in the US so I'll just stick to gambling on fake money.

>> No.8729551

Your clueless dude! My mates a pro poker player and u should only play with 10% of your bank roll.
2nd learn how to play! 1 game shouldn’t put u down. If u played the hand correctly the odds would have been in your favor going into the turn so 51%+ of the time u would win the hand.
Join Lego poker and learn the basics dude. Ur sooo green

>> No.8729552

I'm heading down to AC tomorrow afternoon, any anons want to chill? Gonna be staying at Harrah's and playing at the Borgata.

>> No.8729589

>>8727765
Just the way youre typing it out youre approach of the game is 100% wrong.
Find another way to make money this is not for you.

>t. Micro stakes crusher

>> No.8729604

>>8729455
where in the US? Just find a homegame. I found an amazing homegame in Nashville with fine gentlemen who sucked at poker. My winrate was 8BB/hr in Nashville playing in that homegame but now my winrate is a little lower in miami.

>> No.8729964
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8729964

to larp or not to larp, that is the question

>> No.8730323

what does WG mean? in this context? "~ Mid 40s WG. Recently sat down and have never played with him before. Have no reads so far. "

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/170/live-low-stakes-nl/common-scenario-not-sure-how-best-deal-1708340/?highlight=wg

>> No.8730731

>>8728729
this is how i know you've never been to a fucking casino, christ.
go spend 5min on google and look into anti-count-carding tech that's implemented.
you can't make $500/day in the weekly poker game at your uncles house, brainlet.

>> No.8730824

>>8730323

I think it just means white guy

>> No.8730877

>>8730824
lol really? lol

>> No.8730889

>>8728305
>$146K/year
that's like, really good.
If you need more than 45k you're doing something wrong

>> No.8731255

>>8727765
>So I'm attempting to make a living at poker.
>I'll usually start with a stack of ~$100

Pick one.

The real players are going to bend you over and fuck you dry.

>> No.8731277

>>8727828
>buy the table drinks.
Has never been in a casino. Disregard.

>> No.8731357

One of my biggest regrets is not pursuing this more strongly 6-7 years ago. Only made a few grand working up from 1c/2c.

>> No.8731358
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>>8727765
It doesn't happen overnight. Bankroll management is key. If you don't have a decent sized roll then you have to grind at lower stakes to build it up. Move up when you have enough buy-ins to play without fear at the next level. You're gonna have to play a lot of hands too. Online is best for this. Multi-tabling is important to learn so try to figure out how many tables you can comfortably play while maintaining a solid win rate. Your win rate WILL go down as you move up. Period. I play 6max cash game online and I personally like to have 30 buy-ins and 100 big blinds going into each table. Move down if you're on a downswing and don't chase your losses by moving up like a degenerate. If you play live it's slow and you get less volume, but it's not hard to find fish for easy money, but online is a shark tank these days starting at nl50, nl100 etc. Don't go on tilt, play a fuck load of hands monthly, win like 51-60% of the time, profit. Or you could buy into a bunch of sngs, mtts, heads up, whatever. You have to figure out what you're good at and stick to it to get better.

>> No.8731361

>>8728681
Only if you're playing illegal games, stupid. Casinos play with chips, which you have to cash out, and online, you have to have your money deposited to your bank, to spend it, which is tracked. This isn't the Sopranos, motherfucking retard. Just stop posting.

>> No.8731392

>>8730731
They're talking about poker, you spastic retard. Card counting is in BLACKJACK.

Just stop posting.

>> No.8731897

>>8728055
>>8728053
Basically what these two said
I really miss the online Glory days though.
Poker is soul numbing to the point I can't fucking stand live for any protracted period of time

>> No.8732046

Stop going all in in ring games unless you have the nuts.

>> No.8732132

>>8727835
nah

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8732154

Nobody makes money regularly in poker anymore

>> No.8732862

>>8728028

>opens to $25 in a 1/2 game utg
>mentions villain is all in but doesn't mention any amount
>doesn't realize the insanely narrow range a villain would jam vs. someone that literally made it $25 to go utg
>refers to a set as trips

good luck op