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>> No.7925876

Internet of things will rule the world

>> No.7925973

too bad that IOTA is unusable

>> No.7925984
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7925984

>buying a car with microtransactions

>> No.7926252

>>7925984
It's more like they're building self-driving cars on IOTA

>> No.7926468

1000$ eoy

>> No.7926506

IOTA $100 eoy.

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7926554

>tfw i have 1 million iota

>> No.7926720

Is IOTA the only crypto that will survive the crash?

Germanfag here, like how stupid can you be not to invest in this coin already?

Volkswagen is the biggest and most important car manufacturer on earth and Bosch is one of the biggest Industrial companies in the west, with many big names to follow like BMW and Daimler soon.

>> No.7926775

That moment u realize the token itself has absolutely nothing to do with this nor it will be used by vw.

>> No.7926790

>>7925984
>buying a car

kek good one

>> No.7926814

>>7926720
Tell us in the space of one comment why a token is needed for this project and why the token will appreciate and I will buy some

>> No.7926818

IOTA will make all other crypto obsolete eoy

>> No.7926834

>>7926814
DYOR.

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>>7926720

>tfw put my lunch money into IOTA

gonna make it

>> No.7926897

>>7926834
Haha get fucked you lazy idiot. I have DMOR and it's a brainlet buzzword cashgrab. Just mashing together INTERNET OF THINGS and BLOCKCHAIN seems like a winning formula for dumb money.

>> No.7926942

>>7926897
you are the lazy one, have fun missing another 100x you brainlet

>> No.7926962

>>7926720

>b-but dem smurt refujee cidayz hurduuuuur

>> No.7927014

>>7926942
Just another DAG coin with a confused usecase. BTW if you want brainlet money you need a better elevator pitch. I'm waiting for the FACEBOOK of BLOCKCHAIN myself

>> No.7927016

>>7926897

have fun staying poor lel

Remember, always do the contrary /biz/ tells you, and bizraelis hate IOTA

Also, you probably didn't do your research, and by research I don't mean watching Richard Heart videos.

>> No.7927035

>>7925806
the Tangle's already been debunked
iota is a tech coin without any workable tech

>> No.7927050

IOTA $1,000 EOY !!!!
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY HUUUUUUGE

>> No.7927079

>>7925806
Still not buying your SJW cuckcoin.

>> No.7927135

>>7927014
tell me 1 (one) other coin with partnerships as huge as IOTA, i'm waiting

literally billion euro companies INVESTING not just partnering in IOTA and you insist on being more clever than they are

you will never make it bro xD

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>>7925806
finally a thread thats not FUCKING CRYPTO

>> No.7927191

>>7927135
ambrosus

>> No.7927204

>>7927135
Who gives a fuck what volkswagen think? What value do they bring to a crypto currency? I guess they have experience in fudging numbers if you're going to need that EKS DEE!

>> No.7927241

>>7927135
VW probably only chose IOTA because the IOTA devs are a bunch of SJW turbocucks and VW is a German company.

>> No.7927242

>>7927204

>Why does serious investment from a large multinational firm with real assets and a global customer base make something more valuable? Take that cucks

Be reasonable anon

>> No.7927268

>>7927241
back to /pol/ with u nazi cunt

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>>7927268

/pol/ is here to stay

>> No.7927329

>>7927241
>Caring about this
/pol/ is down there, degenerate soyboy.

>> No.7927338

>>7927242
>serious investment
Eh where are you pulling that from? Show me where anyone says they will be investing anything? What I see is a Volkswagon exec joining the IOTA board and taking on some vague advisory role. Wowee.

>> No.7927366

>>7927338
read the article, Bosch is invested and VW is partnering

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>>7927204
This is from their Slack back in June or July, I don't keep a diary.

>> No.7927422

>>7927338

>I have DMOR

kek

>> No.7927428

>>7927268
>can't actually form an argument
>thinks /biz/raelis aren't also /pol/ocks
>doesn't realize that unironically calling someone a nazi just makes you look pathetic
You must be new here, sweetie. You should stick with Reddit, you'll like it there better.

>> No.7927480

>>7927409
does this confirm 100$ eoy?

>> No.7927485

>>7927409
lol what adoption? Adoption for what? Transmitting engine stats? There is no advantage to your car using decentralised technology to monitor its electronics.

>> No.7927530

>>7927241

Cringe.

>> No.7927579
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>>7927204
>>7927241
> t. emotional traders
VW owns Lamborghini. The companies partnering and investing are big enough that Iota doesnt need to convince you. DYOR and ride this up. Or don't. It's happening with or without you.

>> No.7927597

>>7927579
Yeah ignore my points and just lump me in with some random pol tard. Nice ad hom

>> No.7927683

>>7927485
Screencapped for lack of vision. Amazing.

>> No.7927698

>>7927597
I didn't say shit about your politics. I said you havent done your research, and that will be on you.

>> No.7927721

>>7926720
IOTA is always hit the hardest (%) during a crash

>> No.7927749

>>7927597
Let me resume

>>7926897
>I have DMOR

>>7927338
>being this ignorant

You have no valid points. Now go DYOR for real or gtfo

>> No.7927755

>>7927683
lol you don't even understand what you're investing in.

>> No.7927771

>>7927749
see >>7927485
btfo

>> No.7927776

>>7925806
ANONS PLEASE EXPLAIN.

Why a coin that raised a huge REDFLAG by implementing an inhouse cryptographic function is STILL being considered by any decent corporation and is STILL alive?

Please respond.

>> No.7927796

>>7926720
>Volkswagen, the brand of Hitler
>the biggest and most important car manufacturer on earth
>fakes emission tests

pfffft hahahhahahaha

Man why is Germany so cucked. They are they only ones unironically FOMOing into IOTA

>> No.7927809

>>7927329
>>7927579
Walmart and IBM are working with Stellar, your point? The VW/IOTA news isn't even new.

>>7927329
>trying to use our own insults against us
>not realizing that the only reason they sting so bad against yourself is because you know they're true
Keep trying sweetie.

>> No.7927841

>>7927771

Unironically another proof of you not having done your resarch. I’m not gonna spoonfeed it to you though, you’d probably still manage to spit in the palm of the open hand tended towards you. Stay poor dumbass

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>>7927841
>stay poor

>> No.7927930

>>7926834
in other words, this anon only follows hype and can't articulate why IOTA is worth anything

>> No.7927976
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>>7927884

>> No.7927983 [DELETED] 

>>7927079
this is a dumb argument. a lot of coins could be argued as "SJW cuckcoins", eg XLM, ETH, LTC etc.

>> No.7928111

I have bags but the devs are taking this in the wrong direction honestly. This coin would do much better if they marketed it more as a currency. I don't give a shit about machine economies I want to pay for supplements without any transaction fees.

>> No.7928130

>>7925806
SMART REFUGEE CITIES

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>>7928130

see >>7926962

>> No.7928473

Why so many butthurt IOTA fudders in this thread? No one gives a shit if you don't want to invest your $10 pocket money in IOTA, real companies are partnering and investing in IOTA and it will succeed just fine without your $10 investment.

>> No.7928523

>>7927304
I had great pleasure stealing your nano coins /pol faggots

>> No.7928541

>>7925806
Not this stupid fucking shit again.

>> No.7928633

VAG desperately trying to make it into the future after diesel fraud scandal and zero competence in e-car. Enter Bosch, the german Nokia, and say hello to the axis of has-beens.

>> No.7928667

>>7927776
Any decent corporation

> VW cought cheating in worlds biggest pollution scandal
> decent corporation

Money does not care for what you think about inhouse cryptographic functions
Money does not care about pollution, asbestos, white sugar, alcohol, cancer, smoking in public
Money does not care about Meltdown and Spectre

IOTA does not have to even work, it does not even need to have a wallet, in fact it does not even need to have a decent whitepaper

Yet money will find its way into this kind of projects, making our consumer plebian lives fantastic plastic

>> No.7928686

>>7928473
I was in IOTA for about $13k, dumped as soon as it came out that the devs are SJWs wanting to build "smart cities" for rapefugees. I made a lot of money off it, probably more than anyone in this thread who's shilling it, but I'll never touch it again.

>> No.7928779

>>7927776

>>7928667

> IOTA does not have to even work

This exactly. I have had some dealing with German megacorps, and my impression is that they will buy into this shit simply because it's German, as the top management is too retarded to make an informed technical decision. Since as we all know IOTA is shit, I can now see two outcomes:

1. The whole thing will be a massive flop, which will stop blockchain adoption for years.

2. Industry will pour millions of dollars into basically rebuilding IOTA into something that works.

>> No.7928780

>>7927135
Its weird isnt it?

On the other hand, the ethereum alliance is a more impressive xonglomerate of companies than iota

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>itt salty brainlets who sold IOTA before it's moon mission to $100 this year

>> No.7928830

>>7928633
kek

>> No.7928863

>>7927338
Bosch actually bought a fair share of iota, a wirtschaftsingenieur working there tols me when i mwntiones crypro
Dudes, VW and bosch arent aome loser that buys muh blockchain tech
Its data transmission by sensors they are investing heavily in, data sensors on self driving cars, for example

>> No.7928877

>>7928779
they will make 2. happen

There is nothing, nothing at all, stopping CfB and IOTA Foundation from just tomorrow releasing "IOTA 2.0 wallet", which is actually NANO. Just rebranding what "The Tangle" means to be "actually now its NANO consensus algorithm".

they will just copy any other successful projects.
while taking the €€€

The reason why the tangle is not specified, the whitepaper "is just preliminary", the code is "just backdoors lol", the wallet is a bunch of shit.

They are waiting for others to solve the problems - then they copy.

Meanwhile, they are working on brining the €€€s and getting foot into corporate world.

Smart fuckers, they are disturbed assholes, but smart.

>> No.7928899

>>7927485
There is, it makes it less vulnerable

>> No.7928966

>>7927268
>calling someone an sjw makes u a nazi

Are you new here?

>> No.7928991

>>7928966
yes it shows your infantile right wing beliefs sweetie

>> No.7929013

>>7928633
If you have ever printed out anything, you printed it on DIN A4 paper. That is deutsche industrienorm A 4, german industry norm A 4

Iota will establish working aelf driving self refuelling self insuring cars and sell them to german postal card cities

Setting an industry standard yet again

>> No.7929041

>>7925806
reminder that VW owns Lamborghini

IOTA is literally the lambo coin now.

>> No.7929073

>>7928779
Its going to be the second and you know it

Dude germany fought the world twice

Come visit and tell me we didnt win that second time

Sacrifice, yes, but now we own europe. German capital can finally buy anything it wants

>> No.7929094

>>7929041
Lol

>> No.7929139

>>7929073
Dominik you faggot redditor

No you did not win, you got your ass handed over to you even by Balkan partisans, by Arab berbers in North Africa
and most of all by Slavic peoples of the east was about to vanqiush you everywhere

The only reason you are allowed to have nice things today is thanks to Uncle Sam,

you should bow and kiss the feet of your lord and saviour

>> No.7929168

>>7927135
Ambrosus
Chainlink
Hubii
Dovu

>> No.7929233

>>7928877

Holy shit, you are right.

I just realized: IOTA is going to be the German crypto. Think about it: China has Bitcoin and a bunch of other projects, Korea has ICX, US has Ripple, etc. ... and Germans will have IOTA.

They are going to hire competent people and build a new IOTA from the ground up.

>> No.7929318

>>7928899
What would the information transmission be vulnerable to that the monitoring equipment would not? The most unreliable part of the system is Volkswagen themselves!

>> No.7929338

>>7929073
lmao this is pure cringe

>> No.7929348

>>7926790
>buying
kek good one

>> No.7929386

>>7926252
hopefully they dont need to withdraw it from an exchange to do that

>> No.7929657

>>7929233
EU will have iota.

>> No.7930231

Tell me why Bosch, VW and other billion dollar german companies won't pour $$$$ of money into IOTA to make it the industry standard? Do you even realise what is happening here, german companies have practically agreed to fund and push IOTA to mainstream adoption. IOTA is to Germany what NEO is to China. Only some time before IOTA dominates the EU space.

>> No.7930364

>>7927841

>I have the answers but i'm not gonna tell you

the calling card of bullshit artist LARPers everywhere.

>> No.7930373

>>7930231
IOTA founders might not be the best businessmen or have great PR. But they've practically convinced multi-billion dollar companies that their product works and sooner or later it WILL work. They're very naive and childish but they're also very smart, they've established a stronghold in Germany and it's gaining attention. IOTA as a product has a very long way to go, but IOTA as a brand for IoT and m2m payments is already established.

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>>7928223

>> No.7930763

>>7930373

lead dev said 2018 or early 2019 they will begin removal of the coordinator. When that begins happening, the fomo will be real.

>> No.7931140

>>7930763
Lead dev said previously, the Coordinator would be removed "end of july" in 2017
He said this after Eric Wall made circles on social media about the existence of Coordinator
Which until that time, July 2017, was hidden and a secret by IOTA people

Even with Coordinator, VW and Bosch would invest in it, they dont give a shit about
> muh decentralization

in fact, the Coordinator is even an advantage for corporates

> censorship
> freezing assets

everything is possible, great power.

>> No.7931296

>>7931140
No reason not to ride that 10x once you need iota to ride an automated cab through munich

Oh the tourists will love it

Did you know that the oktoberfest is the biggest festival in the world as we know it?

>> No.7931574

>>7931140
This guy gets it.
Other things the IOTA Foundation has fumbled:
>exchange Hub project, which was abandoned towards the end of last summer
>muh Trinity wallet, which was advertised to be beta testing back in October/November. We still don't have a desktop client that doesn't suck
>"reclaim process" which the IF held onto $1.5 billion dollars of user wallets for 3-4 months

>create helloiota.com forum which they claim has no affiliation with the IF (for liability purposes), yet these same people moderate the Discord/Telegram/Slack. Wut?

To make matters worse, they active censor things they don't like on all communication channels.

>> No.7931813

>>7931574
None of this matters, they have already aquired dumb peoples Bitcoins, $ and €s.
IOTA is selling an idea, not a thing or produce of anything.
People buy the idea.

This goes to the fundamentals of any currency - they are all, even BTC, Gold and USD, worth-less
Any currency only has value because people assign it value and want it. Like a mass hallucination.

Look at communism, nazism, capitalism, you just can not kill an idea, no matter how big aweful flaws and effects on the world it has.

>> No.7931937

Fuck my PRL is going to make me rich, thanks IOTA bros. Get that tangle up and running please.

>> No.7932866

http://www.tangleblog.com/2018/02/24/full-emails-ethan-heilman-digital-currency-initiative-iota-team-leaked/

see you on the moon fudders

>> No.7932929

95 posts and not one actually explains the function of this coin, only some vague mutterings about "Internet of things" and "self driving cars" lmfao. Dumb money

>> No.7933038

>>7931574
I'm pretty active in their discord and sometimes the behaviour of the "leaders" is pretty cringeworthy, but overall I can understand why the things happened the way they did. Development blew up massively last year and most things just can't be accounted for. A fancy wallet should not be priority if you're dealing with shit like >>7932866 where competitors are actively trying to undermine and destroy everything you're trying to build up. I feel like the only real mistake they made so far was handling PR themselves. I just can't grasp how they didn't hire someone for that after the first wave of public attacks towards them.

>> No.7933208

>>7932866
Holy shit thanks for linking this, it seems like the IOTA team did their best to handle this whole fiasco.

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>>7933038
>A fancy wallet should not be a priority
Nobody was asking for polished perfection, the users simply wanted a wallet that doesn't suck donkey balls.

They could have made existing changes to the current wallet and people wouldn't even be mad (simple things like seed generation, auto re-attaching, etc). But they didn't, despite having like 30-40 paid developers. It was baffling how they fucked this simple issue up.

>I feel like the only real mistake they made so far was handling PR themselves
I agree, however David is CEO of the foundation and will continue to be an unprofessional jackass, this problem isn't going away any time soon

>> No.7933239

>>7932929
Instamt, feeless, infinitely scaleable microtransactions used in the machine economy of the internet of things. Like for IOT devices produced by Bosch, hence the billion dollar sensor plant they are currently building. Or for charging, parking, and data monitoring for self driving cars produced by Volkswagon, who own Lamborghini, Porsche, etc.

>> No.7933350

>>7933239
That seems like an incredibly weak usecase for such a high market cap coin

>> No.7933351

>George soros literally invest millions in (((diversity)))
>Muh smart refugee cities
>not cashing in on the death of the white race
it's like you faggots don't like money, I'm not even white so I don't give a shit

>> No.7933390

>>7933333

>> No.7933435

>>7925806
Iota holders are the lowest scum

>> No.7933445

>>7933350
That is your opinion. Several multi-billion dollar entities disagree with you.

>> No.7933619

>>7927579
>VW owns Lamborghini

You could've chosen an infinite number of sentences but you wrote that...

Retard

>> No.7934030

Eli5 how is it even possible for iota to fail?

>> No.7934235

>>7934030
tech is great, devs frequently call people retards on reddit

>> No.7934260

>>7934030
tech is bad and plagued by both security and scalability issues, devs frequently call people retards on reddit

>> No.7934293

>>7925806

when timestamps?

>> No.7934801

>>7934293
you can click on the source tweet, mong

>> No.7935451

>>7933239
>Instamt, feeless, infinitely scaleable microtransaction
Wow so only 300 or so competitors.

>> No.7935509

>>7935451
Blockchain is neither infinitely scaleable nor feeless.

>> No.7935715

>>7927776
fucking this

Also its susceptible to a 33% attack you dont even need 51% like bitcoin

>> No.7935735

so what does it mean
you buy a car and it comes with 10 IOTA in it?

>> No.7935769

>>7935509
>Infinite
Wew

>> No.7935788

>>7929013
kek not in the US fgt
Size MM Inches
>A4 210.0 297.0 8.26 11.69
>Letter 215.9 279.4 8.50 11.00

>> No.7936174

Ok I’ve moved everything to IOTA... how long do I have to wait?

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this was announced days ago and the price hasn't skyrocketed yet

why?

>> No.7936314

>>7936280
because iota is a shitcoin

>> No.7936355

>>7928686
you're a good man

>> No.7936469

>>7936174
Should be profitable by 2020

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>> No.7936960

the german nationalists certainly put up a good fight. you have to acknowledge that at least

>> No.7936964

>>7936773
kek link to article that made david so butthurt

>> No.7937130

I love it when incompetent VW software engineers partner with incompetent IOTA engineers. I hear they want to use tangle to clear all that air pollution they caused.

>> No.7937169

>>7936773
Based!

IOTA to the MOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.7937205

>>7930728
the english have their early christcuck ancestors to blame for colonialism

>> No.7937218

>>7928686
so, seperate cities for rapefu, er, refugees, whats bad about it?

>> No.7937259

so much fud should tell you guys something.
also just look at cmc. it's still at a low for the last few months and only rising while everything is else falling.
that should tell you something as well.

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>>7936964
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/02/21/iota-replay-attacks-vulnerability/

I really don't understand why they had to sperg out completely, they seemed to have had a very close relationship with TNW before

>> No.7937331

>>7927241
Literally the correct answer.

>> No.7937550

>>7927241
>VW probably only chose IOTA because the IOTA devs are a bunch of SJW turbocucks and VW is a German company.

It's the only german coin. And german stuff never fails. For example take the DAO, ... oh wait ...

>> No.7937845

IOTA is up 20% since this afternoon

>> No.7937863

>>7937845
It's not going to stop.
Seriously.
Get in on the ride people

>> No.7937914

>>7937863

I just put in my mining balance from nicehash so I got like 30 units. Should have put in way more.

>> No.7937943

>>7937914
you're not late man. you can still put in more, and you probably should tbqh.
look at the 1day chart. This still is getting back to the mean. it will far exceed that in the coming months.

>> No.7938063

>>7937943

I think I'll move my LTC into it, fuck it.