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Popular brokers for stock trading:
Robinhood
>commission free and no minimum to open
http://www.robinhood.com

> How is it free?
Robinhood earns revenue by collecting interest on cash/securities and fees from their Robinhood Gold service

> It's been X days, why isn't my account verified yet?
Not being approved in 3 days seems to be the new norm. Nevertheless, call/email their support if you've been waiting more than that.

> When is it coming to my country?
The only "plans" are on an Australian and Chinese beta. Neither of which has gained much traction.

Interactive Brokers
>$1 commission per 100 shares. $10k minimum to open, $3k if 25 or under. Lowest margin interest.
http://www.interactivebrokers.com

TD Ameritade
>$6.95 commission per trade. No minimum to open. Fantastic data/charting through their free ThinkorSwim service
http://www.tdameritrade.com

Degiro (Cheap broker for Europeans)
http://www.degiro.eu

Free in depth charts:
http://www.tradingview.com

Premarket Movers:
http://www.nasdaq.com/extended-trading/premarket-mostactive.aspx

Earnings Report Calendar:
https://biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/today.html

Biopharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com/

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

S&P 500 VIX Futures (For XIV/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for XIV)
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures

>> No.7383710

These prices are great for buying.

>> No.7383766
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7383766

>S&P 500 VIX Futures (For XIV/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for XIV)
>https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures
>lower is better for XIV)
>XIV

>> No.7383788

Which penny stocks are bleeding hard?

>> No.7383820
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7383820

Thoughts on buying the Fortis dip?

>> No.7383834
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7383834

Why do people hate F?

>> No.7383842

>>7383766
Yeah I forgot to fix it lol

What will be the new volatility meme? SVXY seems like it's staying:
http://pdf.reuters.com/htmlnews/htmlnews.asp?i=43059c3bf0e37541&u=urn:newsml:reuters.com:20180206:nBwbjtC2na

and nothing about VMIN yet?

>> No.7383869

>>7383834
F is great.

It is still a steal at 10.60

>> No.7383898

Give me some memes, /biz/

>> No.7383904

>>7383869
I reupped at 10.45, but people kept saying hey don't do that.

>> No.7383916

>x years later i am still bagholding ptn

>> No.7383927

>>7383842
I think so, the other ones are dead for the moment. I'm sure they'll come back too eventually.

>> No.7383941

>>7383834
>good earnings - price doesn't move
>bad earnings - price doesn't move
>look at 5 year chart and see that it's been trading in a steady downward channel

It should be a great deal at these prices but no one ever fucking buys F so it just never goes up..

>> No.7383948

>>7383898
Memes bankrupt you.

>> No.7383955

>>7383710
I'd say wait for friday/monday, think it'll go lower.

>> No.7383975
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7383975

WHERES THE CRASH

THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN EARTH SHATTERING CRASH

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7384000

this morning volatility was easy money

>> No.7384026

>>7383842
>VMIN
wew I was joking about infinitely derived products in the previous thread, that's a monster

>> No.7384033

>>7383916
how are you bagholding PTN

its up a lot recently, surely you are green now

>> No.7384075

>>7383941
Fair enough.

I hope it reverses its trend & starts climbing
>TY Trump

It is at a great price right now, it should breach 11 pretty soon. It is also great to simply hold because of it has good earnings.

>> No.7384083

>>7384026
Yeah I was reading that it actually had some XIV in its portfolio too

>> No.7384139

>>7384075
It shouldn't go too much lower just based on the dividend payout.

>> No.7384152
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7384152

tfw shitcoin is crashing again

>> No.7384213

>>7384083
https://www.volmaxx.com/vmin-holdings
its exposures literally make no sense

>> No.7384240

>>7384033
>surely you are green now
ofc not otherwise i wouldn't bagholding it anon

>> No.7384290

>>7384240
when tf did you buy

>> No.7384329
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7384329

>MBOT

HARBLONG YOU ASSHOLE!!!!!!

>> No.7384460

>>7384329

I got out yesterday. Sorry, boss.

>> No.7384496

>>7383834
because it's a shit boomer stock

>> No.7384739
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7384739

GET IN HERE

http://www.strawpoll.me/15016424

>> No.7384821

>>7383834
Because as a company, they have no future strategy. The car industry is going to be the next mobile phone industry. If you don't get with the game, you can die very quickly.
>haven't carved out a market segment for electrics
>nothing on autonomous vehicles

>> No.7384980

Twitter says $XIV trading about to resume

>> No.7384996

With all these discounted prices what should I put in my roth ira this year?

>> No.7385016

>>7384996
SPY

>> No.7385191

>>7384980
Credit suisse is terminating it on February 20th

>> No.7385219

>>7385016
SPY vs VOO?

>> No.7385239

>>7384821
This reasoning for avoiding Ford would also be reasoning to buy Tesla, and whoever else has the best electric vehicles in the US currently right? Which i cant even think of at that moment, Toyota and Nissan with the Prius and Leaf are both Japanese so sigh

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7385261

>>7385191
Yes trading it just resumed though
Opened at $9.98

>> No.7385339

>>7385261

My broker is still showing it as halted

>> No.7385340

>>7385239
GM has decent electric shit Ford is catching up Tesla

>> No.7385343

>>7385219
SPY, much better liquidity.

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7385383

ATOS is developing a cure for cancer! Invest in BPTH and NLST! To the moon!

>> No.7385392
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7385392

I need a new meme today! Budget is $15

First reply and I buy

>> No.7385419

>>7385392
GE

>> No.7385438

>>7385392
DDR

>> No.7385499

>>7385343
Word. Dumping 5k into it in a few days

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7385526

>>7385419
Done!

>> No.7385527

>>7385239
>>7385340
Tesla has a niche in the luxury electric sector. There isn't really anyone that compete in that field right now.

Consumer electric vehicle has yet to catch on because they are still too expensive. But unless you put in the investment in now in developing the core technologies and have plans for industrialising it, it will be too late once Toyota/Nissan rolls out an all-electric model for under $20k. But I do have to say the Japs are absolutely retarded with aesthetics on the Prius and Leaf.

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7385530

>>7385339
Robinhood let me put in an order.
Imagine if you went all in on XIV in 2011 and held the whole time.

>> No.7385572

>>7385340
Well that other guy just said Ford "have no future strategy" so looks like you guys are opposite on that lol

I will have to put GM on my list to check out, would be nice to have a non Tesla automotive stock personally

>> No.7385603

>>7385572
they have electric models, they are shit and nobody buys them but they do have them. GM is better than Ford in the electric car department but worse than the Japs.

>> No.7385609

>>7385527
I think the 1st gen Prius styling was good just because the US market for early hybrids was a bunch of pretentious liberals who wanted to thumb their noses at everyone else and flaunt how much better they were for driving a car that was "good for the environment". They should've definitely made the 2nd+ gens look more like traditional cars if they wanted them to have mass market appeal though. The Leaf always looked fucking retarded.

>> No.7385620

>>7385526
How'd NNA treat you?

>> No.7385632

>>7385530

UVXY MASTER RACE REPORTING IN

GET OUT, DEVIL!

>> No.7385637

>>7385620
NAK I mean

>> No.7385649

>>7383898
XIV

>> No.7385659

>>7385603
As an investor does this really matter though? If nobody is buying their product, who cares? Unless yout hink they can make some great strides in value and marketing on that shit soon, it almost seems like their failure is worse than if they hadn't tried at all yet, at least then theres some sort of unknown variance thats worth something

>> No.7385663

>>7385620
Never bought it, must not have been the first reply

>> No.7385693

>>7385637
Oh I made money off NAK :)

Thanks anon!

>> No.7385708

>>7385659
yes you can reasonably make the argument that Ford and GM will still be dominating the US market in 20 years with their shitty electric cars and Tesla will jsut be a meme stuck in the luxury department or bankrupt Tesla doesn't have the infustructure to mass produce shit tier consumer cars

>> No.7385717

XIV is a very impressive meme. In 1 day it did what took UVXY all year.

>> No.7385750

>>7384000
if youd just held youd be up more do you sell to mitigafe risk?

>> No.7385798
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7385798

I'm bored and I'll run a second meme this week.

Budget is 15, first reply and I buy!

>> No.7385820

>>7385798
ktos

>> No.7385832

>mfw looking at the retards buying svxy
>buying a short of a short isnt a short
i dunno what some of these people are thinking

>> No.7385842

TVIX about to blow

>> No.7385843
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7385843

>that strong DJIA support @ 24250
STOP BUYING YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS, ITS KEEPING BITCOING FROM RISING

>> No.7385846

>>7385708
Im still very new to this and trying to work through a thought process on how to value future companies, im not trying to be simple or pedantic lol

If tesla ends upw ith the tech and needs the Ford or GM infustructure is it possible they team up on that, or are thoes companies so opposite they have too much pride for that?

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7385899

>>7385820
This hurt me, but it's done

>> No.7385914

have 100 dollars what absoulte shit atock do i put that can make some money?

>> No.7385939

>>7385750
its volatile af, i blew past my 10% profit for the day. So i didnt get greedy and sold. Coulda made more or if i held longer would have got fucked by IV crush

>> No.7385943

Poll results

Experienced
+ 2% (0)
+ 1% (4)
UNCH (2)
- 1% (3)
- 2% (2)

Beginners
+ 2% (2)
+ 1% (0)
UNCH (0)
- 1% (3)
- 2% (1)

>> No.7385964

>>7385693
Nice

>> No.7385971

>>7385914
ACNNF

>> No.7385974

>>7385832
Hold on adding another 100 SVXY.

>> No.7385978

>>7385846
they all have the tech as far as I'm aware they will be releasing electric pick up's and SUV's in 5 years or so TESLA doesn't have the factories the infrastructure or the workfroce and it has a shitton of debt and in general it's an overbought stock even in the luxury department BMW Mercedes and Audi is catching up to them

>> No.7385985

>>7385914
TVIX get in at 13.20 it is about ot fucking blow

>> No.7385997

>>7385572
If you want, GM and F are still good buys, as it will be years before electric market truly take off.

Just to clarify I'm not saying they are bad stocks, I'm saying their lack of vision and strategy puts long term investors off. Short term they are still profitable, and likely to remain so for a while.

>>7385609
What I don't get is why they don't just slap a sleek bodywork on a basic internal. A bit like a Mazda Mx5. After all the body work won't really cost you anything extra.

>>7385708
The key point is Tesla is trying to industrialise, the Model 3 marks a significant step in taking a bite out of the consumer market with its $50k price tag. And they can do better. A lot of the cars are still hand assembled because Tesla lack the expertise for full automation that's the industry standard today. But once they get that, plus perfect the industrialisation of mass battery production (this is big), they can conceivably sell something like a Model 3 for $30k. This is why their stock is so overvalued right now.

>> No.7386072

>>7385997
>the Model 3
was a major fuck up tho. They not only couldn't deliver they couldn't fill the orders since they couldn't actually make them to fill the orders and the car itself is a piece of shit TESLA doesn't have any fucking money to actually expand operations needed to compete with the big boys

>> No.7386135

>>7385985
I'm in at $12.95, you better not be wrong anon.

>> No.7386140

>>7385997
I would consider myself a short term investor I think, are you meaning like sub 5 years? If GM and F are profitable bets for the months to come I don't really get why you would avoid that if you are a 'long term investor', aka just being lazy? Surely there is a spot for people that aren't making moves daily, but also aren't holding for 5+ years no matter what.

>> No.7386159

>>7385985
>not buying UVXY a week ago

>> No.7386171

>>7386072

100 times this. Fuck Tesla.

>> No.7386245

>>7386159
Don't act like you made some smart calculated move

You literally bought it on a gamble and it happened to work out.

>> No.7386317

>>7386072
I know the Model 3 has a ton of issues, see
>A lot of the cars are still hand assembled

But the point is you fuck up, learn from your mistakes, and better yourself next time. This is true for people and organisations. Tesla is learning, and customers in general seem quite forgiving and happy to give them some time to sort their shit out. So they will fix the issues with the car, poach some people from the big car firms who knows how to automate production, and 5 years from now it will be a very strong company.

Contrast this with someone like GM or Ford, too focused on delivering shareholder returns today to try anything but small scale electric demonstrators. Too risk averse to invest in major operations such as battery/electric motor production. 5 years from now they will still be making minor tweaks to today's models, and maybe a couple of electric demos which will have as many issues as the Model 3 has today.

>> No.7386382

Last chance on TVIX

>> No.7386476

>>7386317
so what youre saying is... Now is a good time to buy cheap Ford

>> No.7386527

>>7385750
yes.

>> No.7386532

>>7386317
The Chevy Bolt is the best selling EV in the US and they aren't hitting their sales numbers so Chevy had to cut production on them because they can't sell 23k cars in a year. On the other hand, even with all the problems that the Model 3 has they still have 500k preorders pending. The amount of interest in Tesla's "cheap" electric vehicle is an order of magnitude greater than pretty much all other car manufacturers EV offerings put together.

I personally can't wait for Tesla to collapse but they know how to create a lot of hype around their vaporware products.

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7386559

>>7386245
>thinking I haven't sold my soul to the chaos Gods for infinite knowledge and mastery of the market

>> No.7386586

>>7383975
Tomorrow

>> No.7386677
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7386677

>>7386317
Ford and GM have the actual capital to invest in and mass produce consumer electric shit they don't because as it stands it's just not fucking profitable, That's why TESLA is also simply not profitable they have a ridiculous amount of debt these faggots are releasing bonds whose credit rating is currently a B- with S&P and Moody's a downgrade will send them packing to junk status if their ER doesn't deliver results.

> customers in general seem quite forgiving and happy
this right here is the problem. The customers are retarded. Telsa is a fad that is liked by upper middle class progressives and faggots it's the car version of the Iphone X and retail investors love it because they have faith in Elon Musk and that's what's keeping Tesla afloat right now. Musk is a great businessman he does have a lot of charisma he did attain massive success with the like of Paypal but the auto industry is not fucking payal and reality will catch up to him eventually.

>> No.7386688

Went all in on UDOW when's the bounce?

>> No.7386702

>>7386476
Basically yes, there's almost zero risk on holding F or GM for the next couple years. You will likely trade mostly sideways, but if you can swing it you can still make decent money, not to mention the divvys.

>>7386532
>Chevy Bolt
Have you seen how fucking hideous the thing is? No wonder it doesn't sell just like the Priuses and Leafs.

>> No.7386751

>>7386702
What's wrong anon, you don't want to drive a car that looks like a children's toy or something?

>> No.7386847

>>7386382
I hope you’re right anon, ive been bagholding from premarket and its caused me to go down nearly 2k

>> No.7386906

>>7386677
You can't carve off a slice of the future market by being profitable. This is exactly why a lot of people (myself included) avoid companies like GM and F. They are too near-term profit driven. I reiterate that I don't see a drastic change in the car industry in the short term, so they are still "safe" at least for a few years. But when it does hit eventually, incubents like GM and F are going to tumble overnight like the Nokia and Motorolas.

Getting a new product to market ALWAYS cost more money at the start. But once you get there you reap long term rewards.
I'll give another example in Boeing. Remember when they first rolled out the 787 and batteries were catching fire left and right? They were lucky they didn't lose an aircraft I guess, but it generated a LOT of negative press, not to mention how much cash it was costing Boeing to fix it. It wasn't until very recently did they finally manage to break even on unit cost. But by undertaking the venture they positioned themselves strongly, and their civil airplane business is doing fantastic.

>> No.7386972

All aboard the TVIX train. Here we go boys

>> No.7387034

Also make sure you sell before 3PM EST for optimal gains on the TVIX train

>> No.7387040

>>7386847
>>7386382
Why the hell would you buy VIX products NOW??

Are you out of your damn minds?

I'm still holding UVXY but that's only because I bought 4 days ago, not at the top this massive jump

>> No.7387068

>>7387040
EOD selling pressure during power hour is what I'm betting on.

>> No.7387076

>>7387040
ps it's me :)

>> No.7387146

>>7386906
I don't think the comparison between a car and a smartphone is valid here and if GM and Ford do get toppled it won't be by fucking Telsa but by the Japanese Koreans and the Chinese. I was checking the top slling EV's in China and it was a bunch of Chinese shit I haven't heard about in fact China basically told their auto industry that by 2025 half the shit they make should be EV's. In Europe Fiat and Volksvagen and Renault and shit are also quickly getting into the EV business it's actually the US auto industry that's the slowest and most retarded but THOSE are their competitors not Tesla. I think in the mid future 10-20 years there will be mostly EV's but they will be EV's made by shit like Volksvagen Toyota Fiat Chrysler and GM not Tesla

>> No.7387148

>>7387076
I bought SVXY today because this is when long term investors are going to have an opportunity to get some serious returns on their investment.

>> No.7387253

>>7387068
Yeah I also bought TVIX this morning after that first spike. The market is struggling to hold even these tiny gains today. People just aren't buying. The VIX is awake, and it's not going to sleep anytime soon.

>> No.7387254

>>7387148
longing a volatility index is stupid af and you will lose money.

>> No.7387312

>>7387254
Yeah ok.

>> No.7387314

>>7387253
>the market is stuggling to hold these tiny gains today
>dow literally recovered 1000 points in one night

>> No.7387357

>>7387254
Look at the damn monthly candles, this is the best buying opportunity in 6 years!

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7387381

>>7387312
Yeah ok.

>> No.7387412

>>7387357
Please be trolling

>> No.7387452
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7387452

>>7387357
oh hey it looks like a shipping company

>> No.7387496

>>7383834
Little cap appreciation. All dividends

>> No.7387561

>>7387146
I agree. Tesla will always be a niche, but once a major existing player fully catches on to EV , it will very quickly spell the end for the likes GM and Ford unless they get their shit together and invest now. At the moment I would definitely say it is the Japanese in the lead as well. I'm always a bit skeptical when it comes to the Chinese though, there's not enough transparency there for outsiders like me to get a decent grasp of things.

There isn't that much fundamental difference between mobile and cars though. Both technology based consumer products. The main difference is cars obviously have longer life cycle, which is what's buying the industry a bit more time.

>> No.7387645

>>7387314
....And then it Swung another thousand. Something that this general has trouble understanding is that Volitility/=Short.

>> No.7387721

>>7387452
SVXY numb nuts.

>> No.7387726

The stock market is unbeatable holy shit. Stable EOD will create confidence. Buy the dip.

>> No.7387742

What's the best book to learn about stock trading.

>> No.7387845

>>7386847
>>7386135

Hope you anons got out when it peaked near 13.50! Grats if you did!

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>>7387742

>> No.7387877

Does WM look like a great buy to anyone else right now?

>> No.7387910

>>7387877
Yes, slow & steady for that one though

>> No.7388083
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7388083

>>7387721
so you hoping to catch a falling knife and hopes it rides back up? 0ok

>> No.7388102

Buy that motherfucking dip

>> No.7388109

>>7387845
nope, stopped out at $11, oh well.

>> No.7388150

so it looks like Peter Schiff has been BTFO yet again. I wonder who the fuck gives him money. The shit he invests in is gold and shit that has been getting rekt for years now

>> No.7388167

>>7388109
Damn anon, sorry to hear that!

>> No.7388226

>>7388167
Eh, when it stalled out at $13.50 and then fluctuated between $12.80 - $13.20 I should've gotten out.

>> No.7388277

>>7388083
are you trolling?

>> No.7388343

I have 300 to put in a short term boys

Give me memes

>> No.7388345

Selling 75% of my UVXY at close, sold 20% yesterday at close.

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7388356

finally
my DOW position has recovered
HODLing another week

>> No.7388376

>>7388226
I'm in the same boat. I got fucking just'd. God damn market is unbeatable.

>> No.7388379

>>7388277
explain anon

>> No.7388382

>>7387845
>>7388109

Nope, got out at 11.80 or so.

A total of $1200 loss for the day...

God damn I wish I knew better on what to buy and hold, Im gambling like a fucking degenerate.

>> No.7388384

So what did /biz/ buy during this jucy dip? I increased my SPLK stack.

>> No.7388412

>>7388382
Buy Ford & GE, GM for long term if you are scared to gamble.

>> No.7388476

>>7388384
I was bagholding Oclaro and Fabernet this morning as soon as they recovered after earnings by 10% I bailed the fuck out with like a 200$ profit. If I stuck it out and just put a stop loss on the motherfucker I would have had over 2k in profits by now

>> No.7388511

>>7388384
bought some more F and GE

>> No.7388610

Are you fucking retards buying TVIX and UVXY without even understanding what it is?

They're not a company.

99% of the time they go down, except for if the overall market crashes or pulls back, which makes it spike huge temporarily then it ALWAYS continues right back down again.

>> No.7388674

>>7388384

I bought Mattel today, +4%, my target is 25...

>> No.7388678

why are we rallying so hard?

>> No.7388699

why the fuck is chipotle's stock worth $300+?

>> No.7388702

>>7388610
those are retard tests, if you buy them you deserve to lose all your money

>> No.7388719

>>7388610
I though I read something that the CEO of Amazon and the CEO of UVXY were considering a merger?

>> No.7388756

Reminder to anons who like to play with fire like TVIX & UVXY

As >>7388610 says, you need to watch what the market indexes are doing, like DOW, SP, NASDAQ. This is gambling. They also need high volume to spike.

>> No.7388764

>>7388379
that is a complex instrument which shorts VIX, which is currently at the max levels in years.

>> No.7388786

>>7388476
GZ on the gains bud
>>7388511
Are you memeing? Those are looking like garbage long term buys. Are you just day trading with them?

>> No.7388805

>>7383916
>PTN
holy jesus, that's a meme from the times of Pimple the algo king

>> No.7388807

>>7388699
Milenials cant get enough of that shit

>> No.7388832

>>7388699
they only have 28 million shares. A similar company by mkt cap is ON semiconductor and it has 425 million shares

>> No.7388834

>>7388764

Sell high buy low.

>> No.7388850

Thoughts on DVMT at $67? Seems like it has a lot of good upside potential at these levels.

>> No.7388890
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7388890

jesus fuck, I just want them to approve my account

>> No.7388896

>>7388834
truly.

>> No.7388921

>>7388786
thanks. I also had Mu bought at 40.80 since Friday and as soon as it popped I got the fuck out with my 100$ because I thought the market could continue crashing and it fucking didn't.

>> No.7388946

>>7388805
ptn was a huge mistake but i learned quite a bit from it

>> No.7389000

dead cat bounce

>> No.7389052
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7389052

I just bought 20 shares of SVXY

How fucked am I?

>> No.7389060

>>7389000
trips of falsehood

>> No.7389105

>>7388946
how many shares do you own? and at what price?

>> No.7389108
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7389108

>>7389060
>trips I don't like mean non-confirmation of the sentiment expressed

That's not how this works

>> No.7389161

>>7388896
yes i understand its a short of vix, basically the same as xiv. But volatile indexes are still risky, but if you got money to blow on possible gains. go for it

>> No.7389165

>>7388384
BOTZ because robots and A.I are the future.

>> No.7389176

>>7389000
CHECKED

WE'RE GOING BACK DOOOOOOWWWWWWNN

>> No.7389203

>>7388890
I tried over a week ago, luckily i couldnt buy anything last week lmao. I emaield them again today all salty wondering when they will let me let them make money off me, looks like they might not want to, app RIP ?

>> No.7389228

>>7389161
they are indeed risky. but rn, it makes more sense to buy a short VIX ETN than a long VIX etn.

it is an analogous of XIV, which got accelerated

>> No.7389288

>>7389165
jesus no, never buy new sectorial ETFs

>> No.7389356

BREAK THE CEILING YOU FUCKIN BITCH GOD DAMMIT

>> No.7389418

>>7389288
care to explain why not?

>> No.7389432

IS THIS A DEAD CAT BOUNCE??? WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING

SPY IS GOING TO THE MOON

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.7389449

>>7389418
literally 90% of ETF/ETNs made after the 90's have dissolved in less than 10 years

>> No.7389489
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7389489

Well, I practically recovered from “world economic collapse”, how are you guys.

>> No.7389509

>>7389418
because they're not diversified.
and buying in a new sector means (1) it's pumped (2) it will crash at the first missed expectation.
you should invest in sectorial ETFs only IF you believe a particular sector is undervalued, e.g. airlines during the Ebola scare.

>> No.7389548

>>7389509

why the fuck can't you jsut buy the companies that make up the retarded ETF. That Botz shit has a bunch of Asian shit I don't know about and can't check

>> No.7389583

>>7389548
so you want to reduce the diversification even more, uh. genius

>> No.7389615

>>7389583
> diversification
this is a meme since you're buying a sector jsut buy the best performing and best valued shit in the sector

>> No.7389643

Is anybody watching this SpaceX launch today from an investment perspective? SpaceX private of course, but coudl a successful or unsuccessful launch affect any other sectors in a serious way?

>> No.7389652

>>7389509
>>7389548

Arguagbly the dumbest exchange I've ever read. Congratulations

>> No.7389653

>>7389615
then drop the ETF completely if you think you're good at stock picking

>> No.7389675

>>7389643
>Is anybody watching this SpaceX launch today from an investment perspective? SpaceX private of course, but coudl a successful or unsuccessful launch affect any other sectors in a serious way?
telsa would get a boost just from being owned by Musk

>> No.7389681

>>7389105
my bags arent that heavy and i will break even at 1.3-4,probably i will die before this happens though

>> No.7389686

>>7389653
I don't buy ETF's because they sound retarded to me

>> No.7389699
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7389699

Is pep going to go the way of Mattel with their sjw dolls killing their stock

>> No.7389757

>>7389699
probably, I've never seen a female ceo do wonders for a company.

>> No.7389763

>>7389675
Thats what i was thinking, but surely this is more or less priced in right? And don't these things from SpaceX fail most of the time, they mostly just burn money?

>> No.7389801

Did anyone get their tax documents from Robinhood yet?

>> No.7389807

>>7389681
just sell at 1 and then reinvest. bagholding isn't making you money when you could be using those funds for other things

>> No.7389854

>>7389449
well I am taking the risk because it has a very high volume and the etf is very popular.

>> No.7389877
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7389877

So weed decided it's tired of this correction stuff and decided to violently recover. Of my holdings, FFT is leading the charge pushing +30% (it also got hit the hardest by the correction).

>> No.7389904

>>7389000
Was just thinking this. Return to normal phase.

>> No.7389929

How do I get started with this stock thing in Canada?

>> No.7389937
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7389937

>>7389699

SELL IMMEDIATELY

>> No.7389977

>>7389699
I've never heard a woman say, "I would sure love some Doritos about now but I'm not going to eat any because they're too loud." Surely the CEO is just projecting her own insecurities about eating food in public or something, this can't be an issue affecting a large portion of their consumerbase.

>> No.7390021

>>7389686
I never understood ETFs/Diversification either. Why buy the Dow when I can just buy Apple? Why buy the NASDAQ when I can just buy Google.

>> No.7390033

>>7389977
YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU BIGGOT
WOMEN ARE STARVING EVERY DAY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T EAT CHIPS IN PUBLIC YOU FASCIST

>> No.7390035

So how are your gains looking anons?

>> No.7390049

>>7389929
Sign up for an investing account through your bank or one of the online brokerages. Transfer cash in to investing account. Purchase shares in good companies or memes.

>> No.7390058

bears are rekt

looks like lows for the year are in

>> No.7390075

>>7390021
ETF for if apple crashes hard but everything else stays pretty stable.

>> No.7390102

>>7389699
hiring a pajeet woman to run your co basically guarantees its failure

>> No.7390118

>>7390058
Feels like a dead cat to me.

>> No.7390126

THE FUCKING BULL IS INVINCIBLE WHAT THE FUUUUUCKKKKKKK

>> No.7390130

>>7390033
Like 60% of women in my area are overweight or obese, making chips even more appealing to women would only result in more hambeasts and I'm 100% opposed to that.

>> No.7390172

My god the sweet inflow of shekel is truly a blessed sight

>> No.7390182

>>7389686
>>7390021
why do you hate diversification exactly?

>> No.7390205

>>7389854
lol so was the XIV

>> No.7390212

>>7390035
all my losses from yesterday are basically gone

I'm still down from friday

>> No.7390227

>>7390126
TRUMP TRAIN HAS NO BRAKES LADS

WE SIMPLY WENT AROUND A CURVE

>> No.7390244

>bought high
>sold low yesterday
>back up today

Killing myself shortly.

>> No.7390258

RIP everyone who bought VIX today

>> No.7390301

>>7390258
There are people who unironically paid $30+ for UVXY premarket

>> No.7390302

>>7390118
way to much volume for that imo

>> No.7390316

>>7390182
I just don't get why it's necessary. If you want the diversification meme just diversify your actual fucking portfolio buy tech stocks banks, industrials, oil and consumer shit that way you are quote "diversified" and there are plenty of buyable stocks in each sector. Also I don't get this retarded shit. I'm looking at the oil ETF's right now most oil stocks are up 2-3% but the ETF's are in the red this botz faggotry is up only 2.50% when NVDIA is up[ 5% and ISRG is up 3% so why the fuck would you even bother

>> No.7390324

>>7390049
Oh and also open a TFSA (tax free savings account) if you don't have one already. $5500 per year tax free contributions and they stack if you don't max contribute every year. Capital gains are included in tax free status under your TFSA so this is a must for Canadian investors.

>> No.7390326

if this holds, will do some shopping tomorrow.
namely: BRK.B, daily 3x SP500, daily 3x Eurostoxx

>> No.7390331

>500 points now
*tightens seat belt*

>> No.7390352
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7390352

>>7390244
>sold
that's stupid.

>> No.7390360

>>7390324
Can I trade crypto in a TFSA?

>> No.7390380

>>7390316
>just diversify your actual fucking portfolio
it's very inefficient to buy yourself 500+ stocks.
and balance them.

and no, you can't just buy NVIDIA instead of all the stocks in that sector.

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7390381

fug lads I was gonna buy the bottom. is it too late?

what's the best dow index tracker?

>> No.7390410

TSLA rocket ready for launch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c

>> No.7390412

>>7390182
I don't hate it. It just doesn't make sense in periods of global synchronized growth.

>> No.7390419
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7390419

>>7390301
What the actual fuck. The only reason I bought this and loved and memed it is because I got in at an average of $10.

WHY WOULD YOU BUY IN OVER 20

>> No.7390437

>>7390360
Not from it directly put you can put crypto gains in to the TFSA.

>> No.7390448
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7390448

>>7390326
>BRK.B
>Not BRK.A
poorfag detected

>> No.7390504

>>7390448
only have 64k$ worth of it rn

>> No.7390516
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7390516

Holy shit we just skyrocketed, what's going on?!

>> No.7390524

>>7390410
BITCOIN

STOCKS

HALCON HEAVY

ALL TO THE MOON

>> No.7390537

>>7390258
that could have been me but kikelords saved my ass unironically disabling the buy function on usa stocks,what a bunch of funny guys

>> No.7390566

>>7390316
Goyum are you thinking for your self? Its for safety, you need me to manage your money! Dont forget my 3% fee!

>> No.7390577

>>7390516
Crash scare is over. Is go time. xDDDDD

>> No.7390625
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7390625

>>7390524
Elon is such a cheeky cunt

>> No.7390725

>>7390566
DIGITS CONFIRM JEWISH TRICKS

>> No.7390733

>>7390566
yeah ETF's sound like a retarded boomer meme.It's like if you take your money to the bank to Shekelstein to manage it " well goyim I see you don't know which stocks to pick out well let me help you with that if you buy this here ETF you can own ALL the stocks isn't that neat goyim?" "wow Mr. Sheklestein I won all the stocks? I get exposure to the entire sector?" " yes you do my dear goy yes you do"

>> No.7390807

>>7390566
Not all ETFs are bad. It depends which ones you pick. Like yeah, the S&P ones and the bond ones are for boomers and pussies

But stuff like the 3x ones and specialized ones like MJX (dude weed lmao) are ok

>> No.7390816

>>7390733
>>7390725
>>7390566

youre all fucking retarded

>> No.7390837

>>7390566
>manage
ETFs are passive, not managed actively
>Dont forget my 3% fee!
no ETF has more than 0.50% annual fees, and most ETFs actually have less then 0.20%

>> No.7391083

>>7385943
"Experts" BTFO'D

>> No.7391166

At this rate the housing market will never correct and I will buy a 1 br slum for $750k

>> No.7391266
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7391266

Post gains Boys

>> No.7391352

>>7391166
Eh, we'll have a real crash eventually, there's just no bubbles at their bursting point right now.

>> No.7391378
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7391378

>>7391166
This. Feels bad man. Too young to invest in 08, too old not to be buying a house soon. Stuck in this overheated market at the end of a credit cycle that is taking too long to complete. Don't forget, every day that goes by, mortgage interest goes up.

Global collapse when?

>> No.7391463

>>7389052
I bought friggin 750 shares.

>> No.7391556

>Sold everything
Stress is gone but FOMO is up

>> No.7391559

>>7391463
RIP

F

>> No.7391811

>>7391378
can't wait until people get it out of their fucking minds that houses are investments.

build a shed, get a grill, whatever, but you have to live in your house, you're not going to sell it for gains...
and if you do you'll be buying into the same market you're selling...

>> No.7392002

>>7391811
The absolute brainlet of biz

>> No.7392018

>>7391378
We will forge the future ahead. After eating shit in the job market and not having opportunity to get in on the QE train. We'll have our strengths.

>> No.7392028

>>7391559
Why. It's going to soar.

>> No.7392080
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7392080

Be greedy when others are afraid they said.

>> No.7392264

>>7392002
how often do you sell your house for gains?

>> No.7392388

>>7392264
You can borrow against your equity in the home though. Or rent it out and generate income. I mean you need to live somewhere but you can do more with property than just reside in it.

>> No.7392448

>>7392264
You need a place to store all the stupid shit you buy with your gains.

>> No.7392496

>>7389699
>a woman friendly Dorito
>low crunching decibels
That is the dumbest fucking thing I have heard today. Why don't they make one that reduces the odor of their vaginas?

>> No.7392528

>they don't have Lombard credit
lmao who's the poor now

>> No.7392602
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7392602

I've been fucking around with the Trading 212 app for shits and giggles for the last month and I've done Ok with commodities from platinum to cotton and such and eating shit from Canadian stocks.
How would an average Joe get into the commodity market with zero investment knowledge. I have some profit sharing investments with SunLife financial and I guess I could talk to someone at my bank but what would you guys do?

>> No.7392683

As far as I understand it a stock is just a percentage of ownership of a company. What can you actually do with that stock? Is there anything that that stock entitles you to with the company? Like if you owned 10% of a company could you cash it out or take like 10% worth of office supplies out of that company if you wanted to?

>> No.7392850

>>7391378
>need house
>want to open small bidness
>still want to have money to trade with
dammit, why must shit never go my way

>> No.7392885
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7392885

OH FUCK!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.7392909
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7392909

>>7392264
>home values never increase
>buying a house is like buying a car

>> No.7392919

>>7392683
A share gives you one vote on the company. Every year, you can vote on the board of directors, who act as a governing body. The board can fire a ceo or make any high level decision they please as long as they have shareholder approval. A bunch of shareholders could get together and vote to wind down business operations, liquidate the company and distribute its holdings back to the shareholders. The shareholders also vote on proposals set forth by the board.

Typically, the company will distribute profit to the shareholders quarterly, called dividends. This is what gives stocks their inherent value, unlike coins, which are inherently worthless.

>> No.7392936
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7392936

comfiest of comfy recover gains today

>> No.7392937

>>7392885
Time to buy the dip

>> No.7392971

>>7391811
fucking this. a home is not an investment if you need it every day of your life and cant sell it without going homeless.

>> No.7393034
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7393034

>>7392885
>Fire Marshall bill relevant in 2018
ALLLLLLLLLRIGHTYTHEN

>> No.7393036
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7393036

>>7392971
Holy fuck you 14 year olds are stupid lmao

>> No.7393063
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7393063

>>7390816
ETF's confirmed Jewish tricks

pick your own stocks. not every shekelstein is Soros-tier ultra hedge fund manager

>> No.7393076

>>7393036
not an argument

>> No.7393109
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7393109

>>7393076
But am I wrong?

>> No.7393120

>>7393109
yes

>> No.7393176

>>7392683
no but if you own lets say above 5% i think, you can apply for a 13d and get voting power to help guide the company into what you think will be beneficial. Also a stock claims you own a part of the assets and earnings. So maybe you could go in and take a stapler out?

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7393178

>>7393120
Not an argument

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7393216

>>7393063
>can't understand the basics of an ETF
>can't understand the math behind ETFs
"it must be the joos"

>> No.7393222

>>7393178
>>7391811 and I already gave an argument, you've just posted reaction images and called people names

why are you a trip, again?

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7393366

>>7393063
>ETF is managed by hedge fund manager

>> No.7393393

You can gain equity from the purchase of a home though. Say you got a loan with like 30 years at 3.5% if the value of that house goes up more than 3.5% per year you're literally getting free money. Granted you've got other expense that go with it like taxes and insurance but unlike renting you're actually growing your net worth.

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7393451

> Down 10% yesterday
> Up 10% today
> Lose $100
pls explain this to a brainlet

>> No.7393458

>>7392936

Senate is having a live debate on marijuana legalisation right now if you want to watch. They're doing their usual bickering but the feel is that they're going to stay on schedule.

http://www.cpac.ca/en/direct/sen2/151752/senators-question-ministers-cannabis-bill/

>> No.7393478

>>7393451
brainlet tax

>> No.7393510

>>7393451
10,000 * .9 = 9,000
9,000 * 1.1 = 9,900

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7393536

>>7393222
Nice ad hominim. Maybe /r/investing or /r/stocks is more your speed.

At least big 5 guy gives reasonable arguments for his shitty ideas

>> No.7393589

>>7388832
/biz/let here. Doesn't that mean meme burrito stocks are likely to split in the near future? Or have they been holding this pattern for a while?

>> No.7393652

>>7388890
Way too late to catch the dip now, I imagine. Algorithms already busting their nuts again. The people saying buy today not tomorrow were right. The rout is over at the very least, I'd guess. Volitilty is like here to stay.

>> No.7393719

>>7393589
there is no reason to split a stock unless it's becoming too pricey for retail investors (1000$+) or it's becoming too cheap (less than 1$, in this case you do a reverse split, but it's a bear signal)

>> No.7393720

>>7393589
they probably wont split. google, amazon is 1000+ and they havent split

>> No.7393777

>>7393393
This is how u end up homeless

>> No.7393811

>>7383607
Any advice for a new guy on a $1000 budget?

>> No.7393822

>>7393777
*assuming u take out credit against ur mortgage*

>> No.7393841

>>7385842
into the ground. Got it at market close though. at 7.50 its at 10 now hopefully keeps that price til market open. I'm poorfag so only making like 50 bucks but Im happy

>> No.7393853

>>7393777
Buying a home is how you end up homeless? I think the opposite is true.

>> No.7393892

>>7393822
Oh that's true, there's nothing wrong with taking out more to improve the value of the house though. Especially if you know some one who can get it done cheap.

>> No.7393914

>>7393853
I skimmed ur post and thought u meant leveraging the house = ez gainz

>> No.7394034

>>7393811
just buy VOO

>> No.7394082

>>7392683
I have one disney stock from my grandmother I got as a baby that gives me like 15¢-$3 dividends a year (high roller coming through by /biz standards).
I get letters telling me I have the right to attend so and so blah blah meetings. I think they even let me vote on stuff occasionally.
Never really looked into it.

>> No.7394159

>>7393811
buy XIV they are soon to be bought out by DRYS krishna bring us many gains my friend

>> No.7394207

>>7394159
this sir please buy my xiv sir very high returns are gaurenteed

>> No.7394236

What is a good dividend stock for a young investor on a budget?

>> No.7394272

>>7394159
Where do you get info like that?

>> No.7394351

>>7394272
anonymous underwater basket weaving image boards

>> No.7394387

>>7394236
Brainlet here, but tax advantaged dividend, EVTs maybe?

>> No.7394446
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7394446

>robinhood finally approves my account
>after the market has closed
JUST

>> No.7394479

>>7389489
you sir are a degenerate gambler. I like it

>> No.7394483

>>7394236
literally VOO

>> No.7394517

>>7394272

Oh sorry you're the new guy. XIV is an investment vehicle that uses a sophisticated strategy involving the selling future contracts. Some one fat fingered and took a bunch of bids, which resulted in waves of waves of selling. People who were holding that lost like 90% in a matter of a few days after gaining like 100% over the past year. The fund is getting liquidated and isn't going to be around after the 20th. Just buy something else right now.

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>>7394517
Figured. I thought this looked awfully weird.

>> No.7394739

>two 300 post threads in one day again

damn stocks slowly making a comeback on /biz/

have a good night guys. good luck for tomorrow

>> No.7394777

>>7394739
finally crypto cucks are scared shitless and want to move to "safer" stocks

>> No.7394835
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7394835

>>7389699

>> No.7394843

>>7394517
Should I buy SVXY from the same company now? I'm pretty small time and it's only like $15.

>> No.7394852

>>7394777
honestly I think the name change was a bigger factor
I know I scrolled past robinhood general dozens of times back in the day thinking it was just some shill thread

>> No.7394912

Why is VOO a good stock for low-budget beginners?

>> No.7394931

>>7394739
>>7394777
I'm glad to see this thread alive again.

>> No.7394994

>>7394912
its not buy DRYS

>> No.7395023

>>7394912
There's insurance built into the ETF, so if it tanks you're still guaranteed your initial investment back.

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>>7394994

>> No.7395068

>>7394912
>>7394994
This guy is trying to trick you. You gotta buy TOPS.

>> No.7395087

>>7395023
who told you this shit kek

>> No.7395096

>>7395068
>>7394994
Something tells me I'm getting memed on.

>> No.7395133

>>7394843
???
it's $15 who cares what you do with it