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Hey /biz/,
would you provide a newfag some info?
>I am able to get this chocolate in my country for about 0.7$
>On ebay, the minimal price is almost 2$

Am I missing something here? I know ebay takes something from you and I will spend time packing and sending it, but could you please tell me if there are some complications I wouldnt expect?

Thank you!

>> No.711507

>>711501

shipping costs.

>> No.711557

>>711507
But shipping is not included in this 2$ price neither and still gets sold a lot.

>> No.711563

>>711501
Possibly the sellers are charging extra for their time. There is nothing wrong with making a profit.

>> No.711585

>>711557
Then increase the price to whatever your competitors' price + shipping cost is and offer free shipping. You wouldn't believe how strong the word 'free' is in these businesses.

>> No.711592

>>711501
I don't know if you're actually talking about chocolate or it's just an example, but anyway if you're buying from an overseas supplier (China) and live in Europe, you'll have to consider (1) the fees charged from your bank for overseas transactions, and (2) the VAT and Duty applied to the product once it gets in your country as well.

You'll most likely end up paying less than your calculated fees (Chinese suppliers always write a way lower price in the package so Custom will charge way less), but still account it as if they didn't to have an idea of worst case scenario.

Also, PayPal fees.

>> No.711683

Can anyone give me advice on shipping internationally from the U.S.

What are the pros and cons?

>> No.711684

>>711683
International shipping FROM the US?

1) It's expensive as fuck.
2) Not worth it for such a small profit margin, unless you sell in bulk.
3) Depending on where you sell it, there could be added risk. If you sold it to say, Canada, you're fine. If you sold it to say, Mexico, cross your fingers that your package doesn't get stolen.

>> No.711699

>>711585
I'm looking to sell some games. How much am I looking at for shipping costs?
I thought by putting free shipping I have to front that money.

>> No.711723

>>711684
what are the "safe" places to ship to then

>> No.711976

>>711699
That really depends on your country, but I'd suggest you use eBay's postage calculator for that. Get to know what will your package's measures and weight be (get it right) and just use the calculator.

Also, offering faster shipping within a reasonable profit margin gives you a huge advantage too (and of course advertising it as such, either in the front photo or in the title. In the description it's not so helpful).

You gotta see how your successful competitors do it and see if you can mimic it. Also, not having a shitload of competitors helps (some competition is healthy, though).

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>>711723

The U.S./Europe is the only proper place to ship.

If you come across Kazakhstan, Egypt, etc... don't waste your time...

Europe usually is the best for feedback, while U.S. might complain even though they knew it was coming out of country. Then again, if you're selling something, it's probably sold in the U.S. too, so I don't see why anyone would pay more to have it come from you.

It's like buying from China, it's cheap...but it takes forever. The customer support might not know English and then you'd have to worry about time zones of them getting back to your messages. This is why it's both easy/hard to sell in the U.S.

Selling perishable goods isn't also a smart idea...but hey, if you like melted chocolates that's you.

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>>712641


This is coming from a guy that's now making $200-300+ a day

>Mfw pp transfer just hit my bank
>Mfw I can say I have a savings that's not the value of a Subway cookie

>> No.712660

>>712647
but anon how do u do that

>> No.712699

>>712647
I know you buy your shit from China, how do you deal with the import stuff?

I recently ordered a sample of a product I want to sell, and the sample came in no problem. I'm just wondering if I order a larger quantity, will I have to take extra steps for the import process (I'm from Canada, but I'm sure the US has similar laws)

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712702

>>712660

Hardwork

>>712699
Oh, I don't know the custom laws there but over here I don't have to pay anything...then again my guys always lower the real value of the products.

Might be if you're importing large (physically large) goods...
I only sell $20 and under items and only order 100-200 at once, so it's pretty small...even though my margins are petty gud

>Mfw I have to carry all these weekend orders in my backpack while heading out to Leadership class later today

>> No.712904

>>712702
Damn man, how many different products do you have for sale?

>> No.712929

>>711585
>You wouldn't believe how strong the word 'free' is in these businesses.

This is absolute 100% truth right here.

I have a few listings that were going ok, maybe selling one or two per week, just bumping along the bottom.

Then I put them as free shipping, same day dispatch, with the price bumped up to match the original + shipping. I have sold at least one item per day, usually more or multiple items per buyer. Taking them down to the post office has now become part of the morning routine.

Free shipping is the golden ticket.

>> No.712947

report your income

if you're making a few thousand bucks and don't report it, the IRS won't care, they have bigger fish to fry.

If you're making five or six figure profit flipping and don't report it, the IRS WILL come down on your ass.

>> No.712965

>>711501
Ebay takes out 10% of your total sale which also includes the shipping price. Paypal takes out 2.9% and 30 cents for every total sale.

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713013

>>712929

Exactly, lol I for one always click the "Free shipping only" tab when searching for a product. Why would I want to be suprised that you're selling an item cheap, to only be disappointed that you hiked up the shipping because "hurr durrr it cost alot".

>>712947
I'm still thinking about reporting the 2k I made last year when I started all this...lol I don't know if I should.

>>712965
and

>Buyers can at any time claim they didn't receive your item and get a full refund from eBay.

>>712904

Up to 11 right now, cosplay/gadgets/going into lewd stuff this month ;) heheheh

>> No.713108

>>713013
>going into lewd stuff this month
advertise "Discrete shipping" for lewd things

>> No.713153

oh and set up a sole proprietorship and set up your home as an office and deduct a crapload of your expenses.

don't get too ballsy and deduct 100% of your home as an office.

>> No.713172

>>712702
If you don't mind my asking, what are your markups? Like, how much profit do you net per item on average?

>> No.713212

>>713013
That's cool man, good for you. I just started a couple of months ago with product research and heaps of calculations, got some samples about three weeks ago and hit the spot with one product.

I'm making £25 profit per product and today I sold 14, lol. I'm still trying to bear with going from unpaid poorfag student to making £320 in one day.

Now this is just one product, and I'm going to get some samples for some other promising ones soon, so this will hopefully only grow. Is there anyone from the UK with any input on how should I legally manage this? I've got a business eBay acc, but I'm not a registered business.

What do you guys suggest?

>> No.713214

>>713212
Any advice for choosing what to sell?

>> No.713245

My feedback is better, pleb

>> No.713247

>>713013
If I have a private eBay account and want to make it to a business account how would I do so?

Also just curious, are you on the regular, premium, or anchor account

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713460

>>713247


I'm a Basic account, signed up last month with the promo for 1/2 off the monthly fee or whatever, there's really no benifit to it....really.....honestly....nothing changed......what 1% discount from final value fee?....it's just 1 cent to me, while I'm paying $6-15 a month for the subscription.

THEN AGAIN, with the new update coming in on May 1st, lol you better grab a store...

To change your store from personal to bizz,

>My eBay
>Account
>Personal information (Mine says bizz since I changed it)
>Change account type

and you put a bizz name and you should be all set, not really a difference...you get a wording on your feedback that says "This guy is a registered biz" or whatever...doesn't even work sometimes. But you do get some new abilities to change some things in your listings

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713465

>>713214

Stop looking for handouts

>>713212
Nice, lol hey 14 is something, seeing that you're in a diff country, you have better advantage that I since your market may not be tapped completely in selling the Chinese bloatware. So just like I do selling the same thing Chinese sell but selling it in the U.S. for 2x as much (since I ship quicker), you could do the same.

Legally managing Idk...I just signed up downtown and was approved of a bizz account. I couldn't get a bizz acc without a registered bizz downtown.

>>713108
lol of course, it's not anything crazy...just some anime ecchi stuff, you'd be amazed if I told you what it was exactly. (Tip: Oppai)

>>713172
Oh, well I'd say $2-15 on every sale. Depends...

Also I sell things people love to buy in bulk, so profits tend to tripple. For EVERYTHING is based on shipping cost...EVERYTHING

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713466

>>713245

This guy...
This name/feedback is from when I started posting on here...(raging actually) when a customer was being a...."customer" I should call it.


Took me a while but the feedback was removed and I'm back at 100%.

>> No.713468

>>713466
Theres never an excuse to namefag, bro. It's pathetic even if you weren't doing it to bitch.

>> No.713478

What's the procedure if an item gets damaged during shipping? Who is in the wrong, assuming the seller packaged the item securely?

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713481

>>713468


Ooo....but I don't really care

>>713478
You are wrong...everything...you are wrong, get that pinned down.

>> No.713484

>>713481
Why would I be wrong?

>> No.713487

>>713481
>Ooo....but I don't really care
Thats because youre a faggot. But we already knew that, didnt we?

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713497

>>713484

As in a seller...a seller is always at fault.

>You are wrong
Seller is always wrong, eBay won't side with you even if you claim it was lost...

>>713487

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>>713460
thanks man i appreciate it

>> No.713927

>>713484
Because bad feedback/open case on eBay or Paypal > loss of one item to damage or even scam.

There will be scammere. They can just claim the product was not new (if you advertise as nee) and you'll get screwed cause there's no way for you to prove otherwise. PayPal and eBay always side the selle, obviously.

Spare yourself the headache and refund unsatisfied customers. It could be worth it offering a refund in return of the item if you think the customer is just a retard and you can still sell that, but "the customer is always right" (they are not, but that's how you will have a working business).

>> No.713939

>>713927
>PayPal and eBay always side the selle
Wait, you mean side with the buyer right?

>> No.713956

>>713481
Shut the fuck up, manlet.

>> No.714007

>>713939
Damn, stupid brain. Yes, I meant the buyer, not the seller.

>> No.714097

>>714007
Bro can u comment on this?

Suppose I want to start a small ebay shop which sells batteries for example(like the standard AA LR6 ones). I would import them from Ali and then sell them for a profit.

This is what a lot of sellers on ebay do right? But what I don't get is how do you get customers? I mean there are so many people doing exactly the same thing.

Pls respond

>> No.714127

>mfw some faggot actually sends me this message

>Hey, just wanted to let you know (as I have gotten in trouble for this issue,) technically new other is an un-used item (not even a little bit.) A buyer could >give you trouble over that.

>I only noticed because I am looking for a bargain on a new one of these :) gotta get one since I am havin a baby.

>Best of luck on your sale!

>-Faggot

If I touched it once or twice while it still looks new, then it's fucking new you annoying kike.

>> No.714146

>Buyer gives me offer for 25 of 25 of items available.
>Item doesn't include other packaging, but is still new/unused.
>Buyer doesn't read description, and now doesn't want item because it doesn't come with other packaging.

dfjasklfjasdl;fjsdla

>> No.714147

>>714127
so edgy

, was that on ebay? what item ?

>> No.714155

>>713212
lol yourse so going to get VEROed or atleast suspended , mind sharing what kind of item is it?

>> No.714199
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714199

>>714097

Selling batteries on eBay is not going to end well, especially if you're buying them straight from the source. These batteries are usually worn out or die quickly, so in a weeks time you'll have buyers leaving you negative feedback/wanting refunds.

You're asking how do people market their things and how they end up being on the top of the search results?

To get that, you'll have to be "Above Standard" which means...you'll have to just keep selling and make sure you don't end up below. The guy with the item that keeps selling gets to stay on top. Even if you have sold 500 of that one item and stopped for 3 days, the new guy that's selling it for 1/2 off might bump ahead of you because he's selling 30 in 24hrs. I for one am "Top Rated" so my items are usually 99% of the time the top of the result regardless...

eBay is simply a time game, you just have to keep doing what you're doing and you'll get to the top if you're good at it. Just play along and get a store (seriously...by May 1st you should have one regardless). eBay might have some system in place that also boosts you for having these things.

Again, Batteries...bad idea. Memory cards...bad idea(lol)....etc


>>714146
Lmao
>Heading out to html course...5hrs

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>>714199

I should really check my name before posting...

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714202

>>714200
>>714199

you always post that pepe, so we know its you :^)

>> No.714276

>>714199
>seriously...by May 1st you should have one regardless

Why?

>> No.714291

>>714276
+1

>> No.714296

>>714147
A DSLR camera. It's almost new besides the fact that I used it once or twice and never bothered to take it out of the box again. No smudges or marks or anything.

>> No.714300

>>714296
I even used the New (other) heading on my listing and specifically stated what I've done with it. I guess some faggots are never satisfied.

>> No.714317

>>714296
if u used it once or twice than that counts as you were testing the product not actually used it . explain it like to these morons , its like buyers will try their best to fuck with sellers man !

>> No.714338

>>714097
see >>714199

Also, don't go to such a broad market. Batteries? Really? There's money to be made on little common things, I don't deny it, but it takes eons. What gets you the greens is a low-competitive, high/average-selling product. I know, it's easier to say than find, but you gotta do your homework.

If you can find a specific product that sells good (fuck niches, whatever sells, sells), with not too many competitors and you can see a margin for you buying it from a supplier, go ahead. Get a sample order, try it out, pay attention to the details, if you offer same day dispatch, dispatch the fucking product that day even if that means skipping on your 4:30 pm wank, answer questions fast, always thank your customers for everything, and be helpful. Know your product.

Start with low prices, even if that means you're not getting shit. You're starting, you're not going to make 1000 bucks on your sample order, you'll most likely end up losing money. It's allright, that's how samples work most of the times. Just get your feet wet, experience with dealing with suppliers, suck up and learn from your mistakes (aka paying with any other mean than PayPal or Escrow to the suppliers or getting a bad supplier). Let people buy your stuff cheaper and get good feedback whatever it takes.

Once you've got some sales and are no longer that other guy with barely no feedback selling the same shit with the same features than that other guy with tons of feedback, you'll start seeing the increase in sales. Once you're hot stuff, you can easily increase the price. People won't see that (unless they check your list of sold stuff), they will just see that you've sold 20 in 24h, "that's gotta be good".

Ca-ching! You'll get addicted to this sound. (cont)

>> No.714340

>>714338
(cont)

I started selling my bestselling product at a price rounding the $60, literally one cent lower than the bestselling. I started getting sales like crazy (remember I said I had sold 14 that day? I ended up selling 17). Once I was hotselling (meaning I was on the first page or had lots of watchers/sales) I increased the price around $6. I kept getting tons of sales. I'm now the 3rd-4th option under the most broad keyword search I could imagine for any item like mine (and believe me, there are many), I'm even the 3rd choice on google when I search for the product's most broad keywords.

I've increased the price around $12 now and am still getting sales. I'm literally trying to rise it high enough as for people not to buy them so fast so I have time to get a new order.

You gotta get your ass out of the computer and try this yourself. You think this item can work? Fuck it, risk a couple hundred bucks and see. Worst case scenario, you've lost $200. But now you know what you did wrong.

Stop thinking you'll keep reading this and suddenly someone is going to hand you the key to moneys.

>> No.714350

>>714155
If you're not a retarded piece of dickcheese you'll know to do your research before listing anything.

>> No.714392

>>714199
>>714338
>>714340
Thank you guys, those were one of the most informative posts ive seen on biz. Exported to pdf

>Stop thinking you'll keep reading this and suddenly someone is going to hand you the key to moneys
Absolutely right. I'm very eager to work on something. It's just that I had no clue, as you could tell from my questions.

I guess I'll start looking for a "low-competetive, high/average selling product" now

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714562

>>714276
>>714291

On May 1st eBay is rolling out their annual bs update for sellers. This time/year they are decreasing your free listings from 100 to 20. So new sellers, instead of being able to list 100 things for free, you're not having to pay after 20 listing.

eBay is also placing in a new system similar to Amazon UPC/Barcodes where for you to even post an item on eBay, you'll have to have the product number. They're saying you will have the option to say "I don't have it" but we all know that's bs that will be removed after the 1st month or even not be there at all...

eBay is trying it's best to replicate Amazon when they are two very different platforms. I don't know how till this day eBay is still making money but if you can do a little research you can see it's slowly decreasing. Instead of bettering the sellers who make them profits, they hurt them by implementing shit tier updates like last years Defect System that almost ended me, and various other things that are now making it harder to sell on eBay.

That being said, you will have to have at least a Basic eBay store/subscription to sell well. Since I'm a medium to high volume seller, this doesn't bother me...but for the new guy/hobbie sellers...haha, best of luck.

>Summary:
eBay wants to become a Amazon/Wal-Mart hybrid

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714575

>>714338
>>714340
>>714350

This guy knows, haha

>Answer questions fast
This is so good, some guy on here a few weeks back talked about how he ignored people and didn't care because he sold thousands a month.

Like seriously...some people think like that....I don't =

and as he said, once you get to selling and buyers see "Sold: 500+" you're all set...

>Raise it high enough for people not to buy them so fast
HAHA, this was my main problem. But I have a fix for that;

>My eBay
>Account
>Site Preferences
>Selling Preferences
>Use the out-of-stock-option

I think you'll have to first convert your acc to biz to be able to do this. But anyways once you do, your item never loses it's watchers/sales and the item number stays the same. Found this out a few weeks back and now I just let the items sell out. When I revise it and raise the quantity, I just hop back on the top of the search result.

>>714202
kek

>> No.714585

>>714562

Seriously...?

Ebay is really just trying to lock down huge big box retailers and then just fuck over any small seller before they leave.

Amazon FBA makes this whole fucking process easier for me and while I do think I'd have higher profit margins with Ebay I can at least just ship out a bulk ton of items and technically earn more money for how much time I spend.

>> No.714605

>>714338
What about wallets, toys, bags, etc. ? Are those profitable? Because everything I check has at least a couple of hundred listings already.

>>714562
>but for the new guy/hobbie sellers...haha, best of luck.
From what I read the basic store is like 20$ a month. Is it that bad or am i missing something?

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714620

>>714605


Basic store is $15 a month, eBay had a promo last month where they offered it for $6 a month for 6 months. I knew something was going to happen this Spring since last year we received shitty updates, so I went ahead and took it.

Basic stores just give you a 1% discount on your 10% final value fee, as to various other boosts. Not much for the store itself since nobody really clicks on it...

Like you can still see my items if you click my name...why would you click my store?...It only works for big guys as >>714585 guy said. eBay even tried rolling out a similar FBA system two months back called the Valet system, but it's shitty as well...

>Pic related

>> No.714623

>>714605

As a rule of thumb your looking for a product that's easy to transport which you can mark up and the products quality is not a very major factor. (Read: People won't care that it's from china)

>> No.714626

>>714623

I myself go for products that you can mark up by at least 80%

>> No.714633

Was on my phone, back now

>>714620
Ah I see. I already wondered what the store function was for.

>>714623
>>714626
>easy to transport
About that, on Ali I usually see this:
for like less than 20 items
Free China shipping 14-29 days
and if you do more than that suddenly its
DHL Shipping 110$ 3-8 days

Is getting good shipping prices like a big deal? Is the free shipping shitty? How do people even do dropshipping with either a huge shipping cost or a 30 day delivery time ?

Will check this thread tomorrow cuz its really late, thanks guys.

>> No.714772

For you guys with stores and large inventory, how do you save on shipping? Im tired of using USPS and want to use some cheaper alternative since Im planning to expand my inventory considerably.

>> No.714802

>>713460
What's happening on May 1st?

>> No.714877

>>711501
Hey 98% nigerian guy, what should a new seller put under description apart from the item's condition and explanation?

I was thinking of copy/paste the stuff some of these sellers have such as payment in48 hours only US buyers etc. I am not sure how this works to protect myself.
....Also say I sell something for $20 how much will ebay and ppaypal take about $5?

>> No.714921

>>714877
eBay takes 10% and PayPal takes 2.9% +.50

>> No.714966

>>713478
The shipping company.

The shipping company will have terms and conditions which will free them from liability

It's not the customer's fault.

Who's left?

>> No.715020

>>714575

That was a great piece of information, my friend. I'm already a biz, so that won't be a problem. Very much appreciated!

>>714605

Wallets, toys, bags... Those are very general niches. You don't want to start off by being a "wallets" seller or a "toys" seller, you want to be the "this specific wallet/toy" seller. Look for specific products. Is there competition? Most likely yes. A lot of it? Where are they from? Are they based in your country or China/other countries? If most of them are from other countries and they get consistent sales, you have a market there my friend (careful with cheap items though, chinese sellers sell them for absolutely ridiculous amounts, I still don't get how they profit sometimes). If there are many selling it from your country (and "many" is very relative), do some maths. If you have 50 competitors and you can keep a high quality standard and competitive prices, you could easily get in there. Don't get scared by the "300 results", check the sellers of your specific product only. Many times, various listings are from the same seller.).

Ultimately, whatever the product is, you want that specific product (and not any other! even if it's a different wallet!) to be having consistent sales and for you to be able to make profit with that price, or even less. I always account to make less profit than I will make, consciously. This way, if something goes wrong along the way with my calculations, it won't be such a hit, and if everything goes as expected I'll end up making more.

You found a couple of hundred listings. For the specific product you were looking to sell, or for a spectrum of models? Stick to one, and make your judgement after seeing competitor's sales, number of competitors, costs of the product before and after selling (before = supplier's cost +, if applicable, ((overseas bank transaction fees + VAT&Duty)/#products bought); after = before price + PayPal fees + eBay fees + Shipping cost + Shipping material), etc.

>> No.715044

>>715020
I see, that makes sense. Thank you.

Do you know anything about shipping? >>714633
Should you use the free china mail at all?

You mention VAT at the before costs, but don't you get that reimbursed anyway since ur a business?

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>>714877

I'm not OP...lol

All you need is just to know a little html and to borrow other people's descriptions and edit it. They won't mind...as long as they're not your only competitor.

Buyer's don't want to see clutter/mess that confuses them, or a plain 12 font description...

If you sold something for $20USD you're looking to get about $13-15 out of it after shipping/fees.

When you grow it should be around $16. >>714921

>> No.715074

>>714772

USPS is actually pretty good for new comers, also as a buyer I hate buying from seller's that use UPS/FedEx smart post. It's the same as USPS except it takes even LONGER for your package to arrive since these companies use ground then hand it over to USPS. You'd have to track your package twice...

That's the only way I know sellers ship cheaper than the $1.93 bottom line that includes shipping for under 3oz.

Also, just get the priority boxes that ship 80LB or less if it fits in the box. Those can ship for around $5 domestic. I never use those so I've yet to order them (for free).

>> No.715085

>>713468
>cares this much about some guy on 4chan posting with a name
>calls the guy "pathetic" for posting with a name

You're pathetic lmao

>> No.715095

>>715044
I personally use DHL Express for most of my products. However, I know people who use the china mail and they're fine. It just takes long, but hey that's why people are buying from you and not from Chinese sellers.

I suggest you always be very clear in that you want the price for the shipping either to your doorstep or port/airport. Otherwise, you might find unpleasant surprises. Some suppliers will ask you for your courier account to account the shipping (if you've been smart enough as to contact them in a professional/business-like way). If you don't have one (which you don't need), just tell them you'd rather use theirs.

The price is always negotiable, but expect high shipping cost for your samples. As I said, you'll lose money with samples most of the times. If they're being utterly unreasonable, though, just try to negotiate it by whatever means (you've got another supplier offering X amount) or move on to another supplier.

Look for trusted suppliers (Gold, Trade Assurance, etc). Always!

I have a business account, I'm not a registered business. Plus, I wouldn't get the VAT back anyway. I'm in the process of building myself as a business and am not yet sure about how taxes would work in my case, hence why I asked in previous messages. However, the aim of the VAT applied to imported products is to sort of level these products' cost to your country's, so you won't be making mad profit in sales compared to buying from your country's suppliers. Then again, I'm very green in legal/business matters, so I could be very wrong. Any help here will be more than welcome!

As I said, though, chinese suppliers will most of the times write a way lower price in the package, so your VAT will never be as much as you calculated (not even nearly as much). Then again, I always account it as a 20% of my order when I place it and make the math, so when I know the actual amount and change it in my excel sheet, I get childishly excited as I the increase in profit/product.

>> No.715203

>>715095
Do you have skype for a few quick questions maybe? My skype is in my name.

>> No.715408

Hey /biz/, I've decided that I'm done with eBay and am feeling really suicidal right now. I'm going to end it. I can't take the pressure anymore. Sorry, everyone.

>> No.715434

>>715408
rip in piss

>> No.715505

>>715085
Shutup faggot.

>> No.715840
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715840

>>715085

lol it's the same troll from my previous thread, anyone with common sense knows it's not me.

Guy likes to make fake eBay threads and act like me, seems he lost alot of money doing what I do and is upset I know how to do it better.

>> No.715858

>>715840
Actually none of what you just posted is true. I haven't ever posted in other ebay threads before. I guess I'm not the only one who noticed you're a douche, huh?

>> No.716032

>>715840
Guys this is all a lie. I'm actually disabled and live at home with my mom because I have autism. Sorry for making this up but I'm so sad with my life that I have to Photoshop things and post them on 4chan to make it seem like things are going so well but they're not.

I don't have a girlfriend. I've never been laid. I don't do anything besides masturbate and watch Netflix. All I am is a fraud. And a tripfag.

>> No.716043

>>712702

Guys if you couldn't tell this guy is going to leadership class, which means he's young and in college and potentially a leader. In case you didn't pick up on what he was getting at.

>tfw eBay is literally peasant status

>> No.716063

>>714562

been selling on ebay a little while now, mostly just junk. There are a fuck ton of people who sell used things, second hand things, handmade (basically flea market shit) who make up a pretty good percent of ebays traffic. Are you saying you think that they are going to lose all that business over barcodes? I can imagine eBay doing shiesty shit to lock down their sellers but they want to keep them playing the game not alienate them. What do you think?

>> No.716075

>>716032
We dont really care either way

>> No.716094
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>>716063

eBay is basically trying it's best to change the stereotype that most people give it as the harbor for scams.

Every time someone says something negative about eBay, they talk of how their sis/mom/dad/cousin/next next door neighbor bought a phone on eBay and received a picture instead.

eBay thinks it's the seller's fault for these rumors, so they try to implement new things to stop new sellers from wasting their time scamming. eBay is basically trying to be less home friendly and more commercialized like Amazon.
>2008 Paypal payment hold until delivery System


Take for instance, if a buyer wants to buy a printer and it's the same price on both eBay and Amazon, they would rather buy it on Amazon. Why? Because Amazon is "safer", and basically looks like any other commercial site.
>2014 UI changes on Paypal/eBay Purchase History
>2014 Defect System

eBay still doesn't understand that it's a whole different platform for a different kind of people. Those who love trading/hobbie selling, etc. But eBay has let greed overtake it and now wants to get more $$$ by making itself safer for the fortune 5 to come sell instead of the small sellers. I understand the decision, for it would make it so eBay wouldn't have to deal with calls/small cases since they no longer would be held responsible, as the consumer would be blaming walmart/toysrus/etc instead. While if it was a small time seller selling the item he/she bought from Walmart, the buyer would say it was eBay as a whole that "scammed" them.

This new update for May 1st will make it so new sellers/hobbie sellers wouldn't be able to sell much due to the already placed 2014 defect system that would hold them back or possibly suspend them all together.


>Summary:
eBay wants to become Amazon but doesn't want to become Amazon even though they are two different platforms. eBay places walls around sellers instead of walls around bad buyers. eBay still goes down the drain as nothing...still...changes...

>> No.716101

>>716094

Hmmm okay I see what you're saying kind of throws a monkey wrench in my sales model but there is always Etsy and other sites like it. The problem with these big sites IMO is that they are greedy fucks and always alienate anyone making any money.

What I do is spend a few hours a week in thrift stores and other venues like them. I spend about 30 bucks on quality junk that cost $30-150 new 20 years ago and auction it off for bottom dollar. eBay takes 10% while paypal takes 3 but because my markup is so high I can turn a profit and make it worth doing. I don't even need to list more than 20 items at a time because each item is making 100-500% revenue. What does aggravate the shit out of me is that a mandatory bar code rule would fuck me up completely seeing as 90% of the shit i sell doesn't have one. Plus, even if i do locate the id # the buyers of my shit are smart enough to cross-search the codes and find better deals.

I'll probably just end up selling to hipsters on Etsy.

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>>716101


Haha yea sorry for going off topic there but as you said, when these sites do get big, they do let everything go over their heads.

Seeing that you sell random things from thrifts I can see why you're not selling on Amazon yourself. Because as I said before, eBay really is for sellers like you.

There shouldn't even be a BIN option on eBay...just make it an full house auction site where people can have fun auctioning/bidding. Amazon is straight BIN, you can't even find a random item (like the ones you sell) without sweeping through a list of "related" items Amazon wants to show you instead.

eBay is doing that now as well...just go search for something and you'll end up finding some Chinese seller that put the word in their title for hits/possibility of taking your mind off what you were looking for.

Also as I said before, that bar code thing is going to be enforced...eBay can say what they want but I know you know it's coming...