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Have people here really gotten rich from crypto or is it just one big meme?

I keep seeing
>Yeah I made x100 gains in the past few months I'm a millionaire now!

But I bet in reality, 90% of the people in the crypto trade are losing money.

>> No.6177679

>>6177589
I bought 380 ETH in Nov 2016 for like $7-10 and have kept them ever since. Have also done a bit of trading with other promising low cap coins which have made me $100k or so.

Not a millionaire by any stretch but extremely close.

>> No.6177711
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>> No.6177758

I am making money just not as much as I should be
I mean I've had my fair share of bad trades but I'm still up to 25k from an initial of $3369 somehow
And that 3369 includes coinbase fees and shit

Then again I started in April, which is why I say I'm not up anywhere near as much as I should be

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I know it ain't much, but i ain't losing money

>> No.6177772

>>6177589
It is literally impossible to lose money in crypto

>> No.6177800

>>6177711
>this

>> No.6177814

>>6177589

People saying they 100x in 2 weeks are almost always larping, but long term hodlers almost always make big gains.

>> No.6177818

>>6177589
its not a meme, people here are really getting rich. then again most havent cashed out and who knows when a crash will come.

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>>6177589
First step is Denial

>> No.6177848

>>6177772
pfff haha... let me teach you

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>>6177772

>> No.6177896

>>6177772
unless you're a buy high sell low /biz/let

>> No.6177928

>>6177840
It's not exactly hard to lie on 4chan now is it?

>> No.6177929
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6177929

friendly reminder that ETH was $0.31 at ICO in 2014.
So it 3000x.
You only needed to invest $300 to be a millionair now.
So year, it's easily possible.
I myself need another 4x to enter the millionaire club.

>> No.6177977

>>6177589
Your delusional if you think crypto traders are losing money nocoiner.

>> No.6177990
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Ive broken even. But only because 2/3 my holdings are Ethereum.

Making bad trades right and left (including fucking up the last REQ bump by trying to micromanage it. I bought ODN, got spooked by something I read and sold like a dumbass before the pump. I have a problem.

Luckily ICX is delivering pretty good.

Also seriously fuck IOTA.

Idiots dont make money, and Im an idiot.

>> No.6177993

>>6177929
And if you started in January 2017?

>> No.6178029

>>6177589
That's what I thought when I started 6 months ago. After this 1 month alts bull run, I'm a believer. You literally just need to buy the right coins (eg:not a literal scam) and wait for the tsunami. Remember to take profits though, or prepare to start a pink wojak folder like I did in October 2017

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and it's exponential right now, so 4x is realistic by May

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>>6177993
Then you need to get your ass into that ICO sale of LALA World. This shit is a guaranteed 10x short-term and then some because it tackles a real world problem, has a comparably low market cap as of now and a lot room to grow.
If you use my code https://tokensale.lalaworld.io/register/IZhlu8ZRo7o6nM0 you can earn 5% bonus tokens on your purchase. I'll get the same amount as well.
ICO is already going on with 110M of 150M token sold. Start was end of last week so you see there's a lot of hype for this thing.
The whitepaper checks out, the roadmap looks solid, the people behind it -albeit being pajeets- have a very solid background in fintech, the advisors are well picked. Everything just clicks!
This is going to be huge, so don't miss out on it, Anon!

>> No.6178077

>>6177772
The digimarines prove you wrong
Also fuck bunnycoin

>> No.6178094

>>6177772

>1. buy crypto
>2. ???
>3. Profit

It's that easy.

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>>6177896
Lost thousands on Bcash buying high and selling low. Fug.

>> No.6178125

>>6178029
How do you know what the right coins are? The top 100 coins on Market Coin Cap have mooned a dozen times already. Anyone promoting moon coins on here/reddit is just p&d'ing

>> No.6178159

>>6177589
>But I bet in reality, 90% of the people in the crypto trade are losing money.

go back to /reddit/ you moron

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>>6178159
Umad?

>pic related

>> No.6178267

>>6178029
I'm to autistic to take profits. I started in early december last month, and got a good amount. Can't help to think it's pointless to take out money below 100k and when it's 100k I prob want 500k

>> No.6178273

>>6178125
whichever coins have the best memes.

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>>6177589
>tfw went from €1000 investment to €300
atleast someone else gotten happier with my money

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>>6177993
1 year ago, pic related

best entry point was August 2015 after the bear market when BTC hit its floor at $200. So it's 17x since of whatever.

Some ICO's gave better returns.

E.g. you got 100 NEO for $8. Today that's €12000.

>> No.6178311

>>6177589
>nocoiners still exist
Wew

>> No.6178348

>>6178125
>Market Coin Cap
when do we gas the filthy no coiners

>> No.6178446

>>6178125

>Anyone promoting moon coins on here/reddit is just p&d'ing

Even if you know its a p&d you can still make a profit, just dont be greedy and get dumped.

At the end of the day if there is enough shilling for a coin its probably worth to invest at least a few bucks on it.

>> No.6178520

>>6178267
I look forward to seeing your collection of pink wojaks. Don't worry, I'll be there posting with you, cos I'm too greedy to take enough profits to be comfy during a crash

>> No.6178526

>>6178309
Sorry anon I meant 2018 kek. I WISH I started last year

>> No.6178657

>>6177589
I'm sure there are a lot of larpers, but the market is in a manic phase right now. I started with the new year and made a lot of beginner mistakes and had some bad luck, and I'm still 87% over my initial investment. People who actually know what they're doing can make a lot of money right now. But you're right, unless the whole thing is a big con, there must be logically as many people who lose money as people who make money. This is what makes this thing feel a bit shady/unreal. The whole thing will crash at some point, but no one knows when, and it might not even be this year, so we keep going.

>> No.6178801

>>6178657
Market is nuts right now. I’m at 225k from initial 30k started in July but didn’t so much. From Jan 2 till Jan 9th I made 150k. Like wtf, 6 days!

>> No.6178828

>>6178526
It will keep going up, there's too many project and developers now. Of course, it's an overvalued meme, but it has momentum and is valid tech.

Pic related, logarithmic graph. Bitcoin price is of the form 2^t, it doubles about every 2 months now and that has been going on the whole last year. Of course past doesn't predict the future necessarily, but the market is generally bullish. Something like Ethereum or NEO has nothing holding the upwards pressure, so it's not too late to jump in.

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didn't take the pic

>> No.6178946

>>6178071
>LALA World

what timeline is this

>> No.6178973

>>6177589
I think it was literally impossible to come out negative if you bought and held literally anything in the top 100 over the past few weeks

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6178986

>>6178273
This.

>> No.6179035

You lose money only if you are an idiot and go all in. Also buy high sell low.

>> No.6179096

>>6178801
>>6178657
Literally how?

I get that dumping everything into ETH is a safe choice right now and will no doubt gain you some kind of small profit, but how on earth do you make 10x+ on random tiny altcoins?
I'm feeling like you'd have to do this pretty much as a full-time job in order to gain anything big from it, especially when pump/dump cycles can be a matter of hours

>> No.6179138

If you were handed $50k what are your top 5-10 picks?

>> No.6179182

>>6179138
Bitcoin

>> No.6179195

REQ, OMG, ZRX, LINK, ICON, VEN, XLM, FUN

>> No.6179196

Started with $1000 3 months ago. Have 50k now. Please lord have mercy and dont let the bubble pop before I 20x my stack and pay 30% tax for my million.

>> No.6179224

>>6179096
20k into REQ at 4c = 500,000 REQ.

REQ went to 1 dollar. I made half a milly lol

>> No.6179239

>>6177929
Why are women such liars, bros?

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>>6177589
judging by the desperate begging 99% of biz holds less than 5k. only 1m accounts in the world holds more than 10k

>> No.6179270

So far I've turned $500 into $20000. I believe I will be rich in 2018 with my holds.

>> No.6179289

>>6179224
I mean yeah I get the general idea, I only got into this pretty much a week ago

What made you pick REQ back then? What would be the equivalent of REQ right now?

>> No.6179292

>>6178526
YES

Honestly, you can make it with stocks also. Its just so much harder now

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>>6178657
No, you're wrong. It's not a zero sum game.

If everybody were bullish enough an decided not to sell ETH below 1400 tomorrow, then the price of ETH would go up to said 1400. Price growing doesn't indicate cash money going into the market, it indicates willingness to hold. Market literally creates money. E.g. the value of the stock market worldwide is far far above the actually existing market.
Everybody is throuwing their spare money into a pot to take when needed, and as long as not everybody want to cash out (sell), the price is held up. This does NOT correspond to $ value. Which itself is fictuous too. In 1900, a 1$ bill bought you 20 times as much milk as it does today.

Now blockchain tech is valid.
This is a new form of crowdfunding and stocks.
Albeit "proof of work" and "smart contract" are literally terms from the 90's, and blockchain data type is a kind of Merkle tree, which is from the 70's, i.e. this was all possible even before Satoshi, but it just got traction.
Due to the momentum, some sorts of business will die out, being replaced with some decentralized apps.

In the most hyptotetical scenario, governments will give crypto half-assed shit, while at the same time adopting tech itself, which will result in fiat (dollar, euro, etc) actually being devaluated.

>> No.6179305

my portfolio is still down from 2400 to 1900 since the stupid CMC thing happened.

>> No.6179329

>>6179224
Jesus, REQ will hit the norms this year and will be a top 10 coin. Imagine the fucking money you're sitting on.

>> No.6179336

>>6179096
Just don’t sell, it’s not hard at all. Every coin moons that isn’t a complete shit project and even then some of those do ahem tron, but yeah buy and hold. If it doesn’t go up then wait until it does or until you are positive that you have a better opportunity by selling and getting into another coin

>> No.6179355

>>6179270
You probably all-inned successfully a few times didn't you?

>> No.6179363

>>6177589
I unrlironically turned $200 into 40K since december.

>> No.6179398
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>>6179300
crypto most definitely is a zero sum. there are some arguments against dow jones being a zero sum in academia, but half of professionals agree even dow is zero sum. again, you have not gained a cent until you sell

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>>6179239
because they can get away with it?

applies to both genders, tho

>> No.6179479

I've turned 2k into 20k since thanksgiving. It would have been 50k but I wasn't paying attention to crypto the day TRX went to 29 cents. Not a big deal though plenty of moons to come in other coins

>> No.6179503

>>6179355
Yeah I got up to 2500 and put that all in on fun. Early, before it was talked about here and was 2 cents. Then I took a grand out of fun and put it into vericoin. Sitting comfy with that until July or so then I will diversify more. Never underestimate the power of good research. I have never bought anything shilled here I trust my research

>> No.6179521

I turned 30k into 200k since june and that's playing with it once or twice a week.

>> No.6179544

If you don't day trade and you take profits periodically, you will make money without having to watch any charts. Market cap is still under 1 trillion and normans want it, the price of everything on binance and bittrex can only go up....unless the coin is delisted.


Don't be a retard and you're a-okay. Also dump on niggers, if you see them pumping a coin on twitter, that's when you know it's time to exit.

>> No.6179586

Portfolio went from 1800 to 3000 since I started on Christmas. I feel like I'm doing "average"...any gains are good I suppose...but fuck, I would have had probably 1000 more in assets if I haven't been fucking around trying to day trade.

No longer.

>> No.6179605

I put 15k in Bitcoin 2017ish and 5x'ed my money (still hodling).
Also pissed away about 30k in shitcoin gains because I sold before they took off.

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>>6179398
Not if it sticks, then the losses are on the other side of the fence.

Consider this: 99% are literally all in on Tether right now.

Stocks aren't currency, you'll never buy a computer with an Amaozon share. Yes, if crypto stays a meme, then the bulk of people - the ones joining last - get fucked. But if crypto stays with us, then all normies will get rekt, and it will not be pretty.

>> No.6179639

>>6177589
Idk man, I just quadrupled my initial investment in a week.
The only people that lose money on crypto are utter brainlets.

>> No.6179646

>>6179586
I was down day tradiing at first too. Then I stopped trading dips on ethereum and started trading alt coins and doing research with projects I liked. Now I'm ahead of what I would be had I left it in ethereum by like 60k. DOn't get discouraged just keep learning.

>> No.6179698

>>6177589
surely some of it is larping but it's a global market with billions of dollars. If few hundred people on 4chan made it it's not that surprising.

Then again those who lose money usually cash out and leave and don't bother reporting about it here.

>> No.6179717

>>6179639
nice w/ what coin? OMG was my first to quadruple, then req was my first to get over 2000% :D Got 85k of that shit can't wait for it to go 5 - 10 plus. Have my house paid off woo

>> No.6179773

>>6179646
Thanks, good inspiration for sure. I'm riding out a coin at the moment and hopefully in a couple of weeks I can put the profit into something good - Will definitely be starting research now so I don't just FOMO and fuck up

>> No.6179820

Its all a meme, nobody here even trades in crypto

>> No.6179845
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i started with $600 and put $100 in yesterday. How can i do better?

>> No.6179848

>>6179503
>i have never bought anything shilled here
Did you drop fun then or does it not count if you already had it.

>> No.6179861

>>6179096
I got lucky I didn’t know what the fuck I was doing but I didn’t sell anything. That’s how to do it. I was early chainlink then I hit 10x on kucoin w $8k initial. It was a ridiculous 7 days. Now I’m sittting at 225 and I want 1 mili. Annoyed I didn’t go balls to the wall on DBC and PRL, I was in both

>> No.6179862

>>6177589
>whole market is up like 10x since one year ago
>ETH up 200x since January of last year

"it's impossible anyone made money"

Actually it's impossible anyone who bought crypto didn't make money.

The only question right now is whether it will keep going up or if it will crash, in which case anyone who did not cash out will not in fact have made money

>> No.6179901

>>6179845
i started a month ago

>> No.6179918

yeah you are right

I lost 90% of my stack 3 times already

today I made it back to my initial starting point yet again after several moon mission

No idea if I will ever have long term success

>> No.6179921

>>6179773
The best place I've found for research is the daily altcoin discussion on /r/ethtrader -- have made a lot of money there just reading through people's htoughts every day and discovering potential coins to research

>> No.6179945

>>6179861
what are you in now??

>> No.6179946

>>6179845
Get out of REQ and XRP while you can. XMR, XRB, ICX, and maybe even ETH will at least double by the end of the month. You heard it here first.

>> No.6179988

>>6179946
No way, REQ will 10x time march easy. It's NA's OMG.

>> No.6180009

>>6177589
The last 2 weeks were super easy, during the BTC dip everything was quite shitty and I lost some money.
Things will quite soon get shitty again though I'm ready for that.

>> No.6180031

>>6179861
>I got lucky
Yeah, this is kinda what I feel like it all boils down to in the end
I have no clue where to even start with that massive list of coins that could easily pendulum in one or the other direction

>> No.6180086

>>6179848
No I haven't dropped it because I believe it will easily go to a dollar this year which will give me 100k. It only helped me it started being shipped here. I'm already x10 on it when other people are buying in at 15 cents +

>> No.6180093

>>6179921
That's great, I appreciate it, thank you bro, will bookmark and give a browse

>> No.6180178

>>6180093
no problem good luck friend. peace be w/ u

>> No.6180206

>>6179945
I’m banking a lot on chainlink long term success. Waiting for dip to buy even more bc I was pussy footing a little bit before. I easily should have 100k link instead I have 55k. It’s painful to buy something when you use to buy it at 20 cents but can’t have that mindset

>> No.6180234

>>6179988
If it does, I'm happy for you, but I don't see that happening. I just think there are lower risk coins that would return even more.

>> No.6180327

>>6180206
thanks

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>>6177772
It is very very difficult. Crypto is the Chad Optimism! New Paradigm! memed personified

>> No.6180431

I started with $5400 and now have $3.5 million. Not larping.

Almost all my gains were from ETH. I bought 2736 ETH when they were $2.30/eth.

>> No.6180503

>>6180031

My take on this is that you need about 2 weeks of active research to 'get into' crypto. To understand how to use exchanges, how to spot pajeet shills and, most importantly, how to control your emotions.

People who start and turn their money x10 in a week simply got lucky. That's all there is to it. They invested in a random shitcoin they saw on /biz/ without thinking and hit the jackpot. And now they think they are the shit and everyone else sucks at this. They could've very well just chosen a different coin and not have made significant gains.
The thing is - if you get a good start you usually have it easier than people who don't. If you randomly put 1k into XVG and it just mooned to 20k, you'll think that you're an investing genius and could just invest that 20k again in something else and be at 400k. So you randomly throw it into TRX and it also moons. You got lucky, nothing more to it. I've seen someone put 500k into TRX before it mooned. It was a fucking idiotic decision, but now he has 4 million. It's just luck.

Now imagine you invested in something that didn't moon. You see all these gains elsewhere and think you'll sell and get into something else. And you start jumping around and are down because of every single dollar you lose and wonder why you miss the moon missions.

And now imagine you accidentally made a bad trade at the beginning. You start losing money and cut your losses. From now on you'll have an extremely hard time controlling your emotions and make one bad decisions after another. It'll take you a few weeks to get everything under control, but from then on you'll be able to make rational decisions much better than the lucky ones, who might lose everything on one bad trade.

TL;DR: Some people get lucky and think they're the shit. Some people don't and get fucked by their emotions.

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>>6177589
I've made 5x in the last 2 weeks, could be 20x if I had bigger balls

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>>6179845
ICX is just hitting the korean exchanges. It will be >$20 at the end of the week and is definetly a comfy long time hold.

>> No.6180858

I 9x’d my initial 1k investment day trading in about 2 weeks. I think I’ve lost maybe 50% of my gains overall though from fucking up and taking bad advice. I got here mostly due to dumb luck/research. After I doubled my money a few times I became obsessed with searching for the next moon mission and now it’s basically my sole hobby. I had a generous goal of 100k by EOY, but now I’m thinking I can hit that by The middle of the year. End goal is to throw 1mil into a mutual fund and retire before I hit 30 (3 years)

>> No.6181091

>>6179946
>>6180778
to clarify some more info

>$300 original investment
>$150 eth has been good
>$150 ltc

>$300 bitcoin laying around from silk road
>$100 today in ZRX

what should i sell? I want to hold some shitcoins short term to x10 and get more ETH at dip. is LINK as good as the memes say? I want to sell LTC but
>buy high sell low

>> No.6181274

>>6180778
>ICX is just hitting the korean exchanges. I
When?

>> No.6181288

>>6177589
The bottom line is that MOST whales got lucky investing initially thousands of dollars into something like BTC or ETH at sub-$10. Heck, even sub-$100.

Hindsight is 20/20. If you were to throw some money into every coin that looks promising right now, you'll be broke by the end of the day. The only way to really know which investments will pay off is time, and by that point we all understand that hindsight is 20/20.

There really are no shortcuts to wealth. You have to start a business and provide real value, or go into a high-paying profession and invest heavily.

>> No.6181314

I went all in on Tether but it doesn’t move much. Very stable though.

>> No.6181342

>>6177589
The people that lose usually just drop a couple pink wojacks before killing themselves. Those that succeed stay and continue to shitpost. Survival of the fittest.

>> No.6181345

>>6177589
Yes. Watch this to find out how. https://vimeo.com/217855365

>> No.6181383

>>6181288
Are you really sure that is the bottom line? I only started recently and I went from 15k to 170k..

>> No.6181397

>>6181314
It hits new exchanges very regularly. Keep hodling and it will go up in time. 100x EOY.

>> No.6181445

>>6181383
>starting with 15k

richfags need not apply.

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>>6179398
>you have not gained a cent until you sell
>you cannot loss either until you sell at a lower price of what you bought

>> No.6181462

Started out with 2800 dollar 5 weeks ago. I now have 18 000 . Hoping for 100 k eoy

>> No.6181490

>>6181397
That’s what I think too. I put $50 a week in it to accumulate.

>> No.6181501

>>6177589
Yes.

you're not doing it right.

there's guys who bought 30 coins and tokens at $10 and there now worth 100x as much.

daytrade crypto. some fluctuate $2000 a week.

dyor.

>> No.6181515

>>6177818
This. There are only few with realized million gains
A lot of 500k+ current day /biz/tards will leave with <100k when this shit goes down

>> No.6181574

>>6177990

Just buy under 1b legit coins and fucking hold, it's not hard

Bat
Vechain
Etc

>> No.6181597

>>6181288
not luck, foresight. the lucky ones sold long ago. the only truly lucky individuals are those who bought bitcoin and then forgot about it until last year.

its a significantly safer bet betting on crypto now than it was 5-10 years ago. it only looks safe now in hindsight, because the market did keep growing.

the thing is, now there are so many shitcoins around you actually have to decode what part of the crypto market you want to get in on, and 99% of it is completely worthless.

>> No.6181611

>>6181445
15k is rich? Jesus I hope you are either from somewhere with extreme poverty or underage B&

>> No.6181663

Post ppl on here were rich already or put there life savings of 14k or 20k into crypto which is extremely risky, but if it made them a millionaire good for them.

>> No.6181718

>>6180431

I can’t wait to be saying this about LINK.

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>>6181445
>15k
>rich
Pick one

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>>6177771
>his graph isn’t a straight vertical line
Congrats tho, especially if you’ve been day trading that
>>6177772
You lose with day-trading. But yes if you hold long term you literally can’t lose, even a literal scam coin a la Confido made ridiculous gains right at the end of 2017/beginning of 2018

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>>6179398

Consider the fact that getting into crypto isn't easy for normies at all.

Throwing money into coinbase, sure, an increasing amount of normies are doing that. However, buying ethereum, creating a wallet, transferring to a different exchange, buying shitcoins that they probably think are high risk, etc. How many normies are willing to do all of that?

Very little.

And then we have the nocoiners. There's a ton of nocoiners and their money is pouring in at an immense rate every single day. Exchanges are getting flooded. Support tickets aren't being answered. etc, etc. Be glad that we're where we are. Enjoy this ride for the next 8 - 16 months and take profits along the way.

>> No.6181987

Fuck I've been watching this for months but I don't know what app to use on android.

>> No.6182034

>>6181611
>>6181857
You guys do realize how little the average American has in savings? Couple that with the fact that most of 4chan is made up of college age students and obviously risking $15k like that becomes something only the rich kids can do

>> No.6182073

>>6181611
>>6181857
>15k is rich?

No. But dropping 15k on worthless shitcoins is still ballsy. I could buy a car with that. Us poorfags start on 2k

>> No.6182176

Fuck it ive given up cigarettes and lottery and even halved alcohol budget for the last year and im still a poorfag. Is there a /biz/ guide to getting started in buying cryptocurrencies? Where the fuck do I start, can i just buy this shit with a credit card?

>> No.6182185

>>6180234
Which ones do you see? I'm in FUN, XLM, OMG, ICON, ZRX, VEN, REQ, and a few others.

>> No.6182231

>>6181611
I am aware that the average person is terrible with money management.
I was never a "rich kid" grew up with 2 parents on minimum wage, I am 29 and worked for all my dollars. Well I have more in savings from working the last 10 years I put it in expecting no real returns, starting with 5k as the market picked up I dumped 10k more in.

>> No.6182263

>>6178801
Same I'm up almost 100k since new years. Thing is I'm not even phased by it. The other day when everything dipped i was down 15-20k in a day & didn't even get nervous

>> No.6182293

>Keep majority of portfolio in coinbase tier crypto
>throw a bone for the occasional moon mission
How the fuck are y'all not making money this way? Serious question.

>> No.6182298

>>6180431
2736*2.3=6292.8, not 5400. Clearly larping..

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>>6180031
Look at marketcap and upcoming news. If there's nothing to drive the price up, or if the marketcap is already too high, then the coin is too risky.

Pick a coin with massive upside (ie. not XRP, TRX, or any of those giants) and hold until it moons.

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>>6179398
Is real estate a zero-sum game? If I buy land in chattanooga and it becomes the next San Fran, does the guy who buys it from me lose? Did the guy I bought from lose? With coins you can easily say the loss happens with the last person to sell at a profit in the chain, but if crypto stays for the long haul, then how is it any different from real estate?

>> No.6182428

>>6182298
>Almost all of my gains

>> No.6182445

>>6182034
Easy to make in 1 year. I saved ~16k in my first year of web dev and threw it all in crypto at the end.

>> No.6182495

>>6182445
>. I saved ~16k

You must still live with your parents then lol. Enjoy not having to pay rent/bills/car kid.

>> No.6182519

>>6177772
he says at the ATH of the entire crypto market.

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made 600k on ETH, now I put it all in XNN

>> No.6182534

>>6182176
If you don’t care about coinbase potentially fucking you over and getting lost in their chain of tickets, make a Coinbase account, buy some ETH, move it to an exchange that sells shitcoins like Kucoin, and catch the next rocketship /biz/ shills

If you’re worried, just act out the simulation right now with UFR/DBC/ICX. Imagine you bought at Dec when some of these were shilled. Look at how the coins have progressed on Coinmarketcap and see how much you could have made

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>>6177772

>> No.6182618

>>6182534
Most of the coins shilled here suck and dump as soon as you put money in. Believe me I've got experience of that.

>> No.6182720

>>6182495
No just cheap rent from living with my girlfriend and generally living cheaply (always buying promotions, cooking most meals, not spending much when going out, not paying transports, only buying/digging up second hand stuff, etc).

Basically half my salary went in savings and now I'm at half a mil thanks to that and crypto.

>> No.6182745

>>6181345
Top zozzle

>>6181611
Lol the average American RETIRES with like less than $1,000 in savings bro

>> No.6182759

ive lost 5000 since i started :/ normies beware

>> No.6182788

>>6182534
What if you don't want to coinbase it?

>> No.6182808

>>6179096
I have some time off right now, I've been able to spend a lot of time watching the market, but since late December, everything is growing. Someone who just would have bought ETH and did nothing would still like a 40% ROI. I haven't bet on any small coins yet, but as long as you find alts that slightly outperform ETH right now, it's hard to lose. Just don't buy at ATH or let FOMO influence you too much.

>> No.6182828

>>6182618
Wrong.

DBC was shilled 3 or 4 days ago damn heavily, and then it rocketed up 40 cents.

>> No.6182846

>>6182618
Yeah not gonna lie, you do need a little luck also with this. Of course the more of your own research you do, the less luck you necessarily need.

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>>6178071
what a tech team you got there buddy

>> No.6182874

>>6179300
Thanks, that's informative.

>> No.6182897

>>6182788
There's also Kraken but I haven't used it. I only put in a little bit of fiat and from there my portfolio exploded so I haven't really had to look back yet

>> No.6182956

>>6182828
yeah and loads of others like PACcoin were shilled and died instantly

>> No.6182981

>>6182534
Thanks for the advice. I dont understand what you mean by move it to an exchange that sells shitcoins though, why not just buy eth from the shitcoin exchange in the first place? Apologies if that is the stupidest fucking thing youve ever heard but i dont have time to lurk for 2 years before posting considering getting rich from these memecoins might not even be possible in a couple of months

>> No.6182996

>>6182618
And thats wrong. You just have to read between the lines, filter out the pajeet shilling and you will find the winrars

>> No.6183054

>>6182828
DBC was by far the most shilled coin on here

>> No.6183102

>>6182618
True, but I was shilled DBC at .07 then at .13, bought a stack of 24k and regret selling off ( I have 13k now).

>> No.6183125

>>6182533

XNN is massive. Thanks for the tip lad

>> No.6183138

>>6177589
I went from 12/hr wage cucking to 640k neet, working on getting to 1m

>> No.6183145

>>6182981
A lot of exchages don't accept fiat

>> No.6183290

>>6182981
Kucoin and most of these exchanges don't accept fiat and can't connect to your bank. "Legit" exchanges like Coinbase and Kraken have done the paperwork and (at least with Coinbase) work with the IRS for example to catch people trying to dodge taxes.

I'm nowhere near an expert, I literally only just started in Nov 2017 myself after lurking on and off for about and kicking myself at all missed money. Literally just said fuck it, put some money into Coinbase, transferred it to Kucoin and bought HST since it looked legit and still had a really small marketcap at the time.

I'd suggest doing some research on crypto/trading terms and what they all mean. I personally just binged the Crypto101 podcast until I had a rough understanding of what was going on. I'm sure there's plenty of resources on Youtube for this as well.

>> No.6183329

>>6182981
just take it easy my man, i literally started reading about this this friday and put in money in eth and link today. just read and watch youtube videos and keep notes if you have to, it seems complicated at first but you'll learn fast. not saying i'm an expert already or anything, but you don't need 2 years to learn the basics. good luck hope we all make it

>> No.6183544

>>6177589
I haven't made millions by any stretch, but I got in Mid November for about 2k and my portfolio is at 10k right now. Its all fun money anyway so it doesn't really matter if I lose it, but still, I hope this next year everything really moons.

>> No.6183588

>>6182868
>Deep Poo
>Bitcoin Heister

>> No.6183720

>>6177589
I've made 2% in 5months.
I've made 36% in stocks in the same time.

>> No.6183802

>>6177589
$1600 cash initial input, now worth $30k and could hit 80k in a few weeks if a couple of my holds moon.
Nearly got wiped out in my initial trades, good learning experience.

>> No.6183818

>>6177589
>market cap 1 year ago, $16b
>market cap now $700-800b, for all cryptos

you don't even have to do anything, as long as you are in then you're making money

>> No.6183888

>>6183720
This is your own fault. You must literally suck fucking DICK at trading if you can't make more than a 2% profit on crypto which is completely booming right now. Like literally, you could have picked any coin and held. You would have had to go out of your way to suck this fucking bad. Stick to grandpa stocks for your 10% yearly gains faggot

>> No.6184122

>>6177589
>I'm bad with crypto
>that means everyone is bad

>> No.6184126

>>6182897
So there's pretty much no nonripoff way to get in anonymously now?

>> No.6184165

>>6183888
Why are you so rude?

>> No.6184320

>>6184165
because you are fucking brain damaged if if you only earn 2% in 5 months in this fucking bull market.

>> No.6184342

>>6180503
it's this, unless I'm wrong or something. In some way I feel blessed that I even now about crypto/ am autistic enough to figure out how to buy online Chuck e' Cheese tokens/ Have the ability to become a millionaire if this bull-market shit keeps going on the rampage it has been.

But i'll be damned, if I see any new YouTube celebs that tote lambo's in their videos and act as though they're hot shit for investing in crypto (i.e. gambling to the nth degree).

I turned my $500 to $2300, and I'm happy about that but I damn sure don't feel like a genius. I'm just a guy that realized that the price of magic beans was increasing and it was time to get on the action.

>> No.6184443

>>6184165
Because anyone who earns that little over the course of 5 months is literally worse than a baby randomly picking coins. I'm pretty sure a dog that randomly picks coins based on how long he sniffs their logo on a screen could do better than 2% in 5 months.

>> No.6184541

>>6184165
Also, kill yourself you sensitive little bitch ass faggot

>> No.6184544

>>6177589
Not a millionaire but i have gone from about £2000 last febuary (that i saved from working in a bar) to nearly £50000. As a student i really dont see how i could have made anywhere close to that money at this stage in my life without crypto.

>> No.6184704

unless you start with a decent investment, it's not as easy as people make out to earn big money.
people are quick to brag about how they 10xed their $100 investment but can't do the same with bigger bucks because they're too emotionally tied to the money.

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>>6184541
O-okay anon..

>> No.6184878

>>6184704
Should I do all-ins? If the multi-year bear market meme happens then i'll play it safe. But I want juicy gains, and diversifying $2000 seems moot. I don't give a shit about my money at this point. I just want to be a free man.

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>>6177589
this group helped me hit my first 50K :)

https://discord gg/dbSwUhM

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>>6184735

>> No.6185660

>>6183290
>>6183329
Again thanks for the help. Request being processed for £500 ethereum. £20 wasted on transaction fee already. Hope this pays off cause £500 is a lot for a poorfag

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>>6185535

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Kinda interested. How much do you think someone can make with 1k in 2018 if he's lucky?

>> No.6185858

>>6185784
you'd be lucky to double it at this point. all the great coins mooned. its just hodl for a year faggots around here now

>> No.6186099

>>6185858
funny considering i already doubled the first week of 2018

>> No.6186408

>>6183888
Nigger I day trade stocks for gauaranteed money. I had my highest profit week ever, Sessions made me 32k. I sold all of my cannabis stocks immediately, bought back in at 30-50% discount and they are back to where they were now.
Crypto is blind luck and faggotry. Trying to actively buy low and sell high is impossible reliably. Creator is about to give a talk. Buy low right? Nope, drops 10% after talk that went great. Coin about to be listed on new exchange, easy money right? Fuck no. A huge amount of bch locked up in an exchange are about to be released? Sell now, lmao price doubled. I could go on and on, nothing that should be a market tip off does anything reliably.

>> No.6186500

>>6177772
tbf normies lose money really easily. they buy shit like xrp and pumped up whale coins at the very top. it's impossible for anyone that's old/biz/ to lose money though.

>> No.6186697

>>6183290
Are there any better options besides Kraken or coinbase for moving coin from an exchange into fiat?

>> No.6186754

The fuck do I do if I want to get started today, since BTC is apparently tanking?

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I'm not losing money either. I started with 200 dollars.

I've gotten cucked nearly 700 dollars overnight, but that's mostly thanks to me holding a shittonne of doge and if dropping from 107 to 89.

>> No.6186926

>>6186697
Not necessarily better, but there's always gemini. Fastest transfers I have atm.
>>6186754
That's when you're supposed to buy, man

>> No.6186999

>>6186408
You're losing because you're day trading all your shit away. Learn to HODL and you might start actually making money,

>> No.6187008

>>6185784
If you play it right, definitely over 500k. If you aren't a fucking retard. Some guy on here made 15k into 1m in 7 months.

>> No.6187048

>>6186697
Not that I know of, but DYOR it depends on where you live

>>6185660
good luck lad I'll see you on the other side

>> No.6187062

>>6186408
Lol, you are just completely wrong, learn to read and abuse charts and not hype dumbass.

>> No.6187067

>>6186926
I was going to start with ETH instead since BTC is terrifying lately, you think it's gonna survive?

>> No.6187084

Started with $3000NZD. Currently at $2580NZD

>> No.6187319

>>6177589
5k originarury
90k nao

This year I will make 200-300k Im almost sure.

>> No.6187364

>>6184126
I guess theoretically there are bitcoin ATMs but I don't know where they are or how they work.

I'm just gonna pay my taxes, if I have to pay 40% on 10MM I'll pay it, that would have meant I turned a couple hundred dollarydoos into 6 mil for sitting on my ass and getting lucky. It's that, or get either get fucked in ass in prison or move to somewhere like Monaco where I'll probably end up blowing $4mil in cost of living anyways compared to the US or somewhere like Eastern Europe, where I might legitimately get kidnapped and tortured for my passwords or spend $4mil in protection

>> No.6187654

>>6187067
Definitely. BTC still has the flaws that it always had, but it is functional. It might be over the hump in terms of actual usage as a means of exchange, but I think it's still worth holding onto for investment.

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I dunno if anybody is actually losing in this market.

Maybe a bunch of people that don't realize they are about to lose.

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>>6186408
Dude, buy orders.
Dude, sell orders.

>> No.6188257

>>6178071
dont pick dis chink
https://tokensale.lalaworld.io/register/JURk7GB7ziPlb7W - bought 514k - do yaself the favor of getting my bonus

>> No.6188430

>>6184342
Right there with you. I "only" 4x'd my investment in a month and it still feels like magic internet meme money, anybody could do it with luck and patience in this market. Which makes me feel like I could have done better