/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.57958207]

say goodbye to fiat

[Anonymous No.57958220]

bye bye

[Anonymous No.57958242]

bye dollar

[Anonymous No.57958256]

sayonara

[Anonymous No.57958385]

Ya, idk what any of that shit means or the implications of its meaning.

*sharts in your thread then leaves*

[Anonymous No.57958636]

>>57958207
Michael howell take a break

[Anonymous No.57958656]

>>57958385
>idk what any of that shit means
of course you don't, fiatcel
that's why you're going to get killed

[Anonymous No.57958659]

>>57958220
Mega inflation till 2026?

[Anonymous No.57958691]

>>57958256
10+T usd crypto is predicted for very spon

[Anonymous No.57958847]

>>57958659
>till 2026
till forever, fiat is done for

[Anonymous No.57959298]

>>57958220
what the fuck is that supposed to be

[Anonymous No.57959695]

$1m BTC is fud

[Anonymous No.57959773]

>>57959298
An attempt to match the global liquidity index with a recurrent sine wave pattern.
Liquidity drives the markets up. Howell is trying to explain that despite the high rates liquidity has been rising, mainly through the BTFP, the RRP and public spending.

[Anonymous No.57959783]

[Anonymous No.57960058]

>>57959298
global liquidity is the amount of money being created by major central banks around the globe

[Anonymous No.57960395]

>>57958256
Huh. So that's why """FTX""" kept selling so aggressively at 69k
Crypto was just treated like an emergency fed fund

[Anonymous No.57960416]

>>57958207
Say hello to minecraft notes

[Anonymous No.57960816]

>>57959773
The post bretton woods era collapsed in 2009 everything since has been patching a ship sinking through holes.

Ideally bretton woods 2 would be a solution but it's politically imposible, well funnily the usa can do that now thanks to btc & stablecoins since btc is bretton woods keynes bancor, and stablecoins are a way to control the speed of the detachment since they demand us treasuries.

A big reason they rescued banks after they went down due to the bond shit, is because the game theory is broken, if they had let them fall it would have lead to people moving wealth to "too big to fail" banks and these few remaining big banks would have 0 game theoretical reason to act rationally.

In fact it would be even better to have a single bank aka cbdc but if you have a cbdc you don't have a bond market so it would be all modern theory monetary nonsense that would inflate harder than covid gibs did.

So either they do bretton woods 2, let btc & stablecoins go up, or move to a physical cash only monetary system with unbacked banking.

Of those options funnily btc & stablecoins is the best politically because it happens by itself.

[Anonymous No.57961058]

>>57960816
Real money is tangible

[Anonymous No.57961147]

>>57959773
The fed has been lying a lot this cycle and doing brrrr via the back door while in public putting great emphasis on the watched faked metrics
This episode has been real eye opening in watching the analysts that can see this and those that flounder about failing to grasp even at an abstract level that yes the government lies and a lot
Funnily enough in this macro cycle the experts were never more wrong

[Anonymous No.57961171]

>>57961147
And before i forget and frogposting neets on here saw it and called it
The internet is a beautiful thing, just dont get filtered out by the jeets and shitposting

[Anonymous No.57961215]

>>57961058
Cope outdated goldtard. No one is gonna buy a dildo on Amazon by sending them gold coins in the mail.
You are shilling the financial version of the transportation horse after we have already invented cars.

[Anonymous No.57961710]

>>57961215
>credit crypto fag
>dildoes
Pottery gtfo jessetroon

[Anonymous No.57961869]

>>57961710
>ad homs
Boy, you just got schooled

[Anonymous No.57961910]

>>57961869
>current year fallacy fag
Metal coinage is durable and tangible, even legitimately private and independent of technology that relies on vulnerable networks. Real money is also scarce and untraceable, unlike crypto, which is perpetually rehypothecated out of cold wallets (legally via sec15c-3). Good to know that youre memeilliterate.

[Anonymous No.57962113]

>>57961910
Oh yeah so how do you use REAL TANGIBLE gold coins to make online purchases (which account for like 90% of transactions these days)
How do you order something from the internet with gold.
How do you order from overseas with gold bars?
There's only two options, you mail them coins in a box which is a huge burden with massive risk, or two you make a paper IOU for the gold, putting you right back to square one with unbackded fiat.
You simply lost goldcuck.

[Anonymous No.57962169]

>>57962113
Credit has 1 gold medal in the currency olympics yes and youre somehow clinging to that as if it's the panacea of moneys properties. Coinage is gigachad and it makes you seethe. Maybe silver burns your skin due to the olygodynamic effect.

[Anonymous No.57962192]

>>57962113
simple. you make a derivative
>rubs hands

[Anonymous No.57962198]

>>57962192

[Anonymous No.57962214]

>>57962192
I have 2 kilograms of bitcoin

[Anonymous No.57962235]

>>57958207
plz explain like im retarded baby who never left his room for 40 years, because i am

[Anonymous No.57962252]

>>57962235

[Anonymous No.57962280]

>>57962235
The number of dollars is pumping, and the value of each dollar is going to plummet bigly.

[Anonymous No.57962310]

>>57962169
Uhhh...you still didn't explain how people should make online purchases with gold coins??? You don't have any ideas? Should normies be mailing cold coins in envelopes to Amazon to pay for their orders? Are you seriously considering that or is this your way of admitting that gold is simply unfeasible to use in the digital era..

[Anonymous No.57962353]

>>57962310
You're just being stupid AND jewish now. Portability is one aspect of money. When you (the fag jesse) wants to buy your disguting shit from amazonkikes you use your credit currency. For any other aspects of money, coinage is superior. Again you're clinging to one property of money out of nine, because youre a seething crypto fag and a jew

[Anonymous No.57962359]

>>57962310
>only online transactions exist
Lmao even get bent jessetroon

[Anonymous No.57962381]

>>57962113
simple, you don't buy shit online and buy locally sourced goods, which in turns makes your community wealthier. no jews allowed this time

[Anonymous No.57962425]

>>57961215
>>57962381
See that post, thats what these crypto fags want digital currency for

[Anonymous No.57962437]

>>57961058
This not true historically the layer that moves the economy has been mostly ledgers that were based on gold on a lower layer but what made gold important in that game theory is it's limited supply.

Not it being physical, the physical part was important because it allowed to move great quanities of wealth in a small metal.

But that today is a bad thing because civil forfeiture at airport is still at 1970s limit when it was implemented hence why gold price went 50% below international place in venezuela and nobody did arbitrage there.

[Anonymous No.57962463]

>>57962353
Gold problem and silver atm is lack of portability due to civil forfeiture and border controls, you can cross a border with multi million dollars in bitcoin but you can't cross it with even 10k usd in gold.

That is a massive problem because you end like peter schiff shilling for a centralized ledger service to move gold between borders and that centralizer ledger in the end is were paper metal supply is inflated and price controlled.

Without international free settlement you can't have a real price discovery hence why metals are flatlining since 2008 when you had massive inflation and btc is pumping non stop.

Because BTC is being settled inter border every 10 minutes where peter schiff probably never settled a gold payment between nations in his entire life because the tyrants that rule the world made it illegal.

[Anonymous No.57962552]

>>57962463
Meanwhile pic related. jews want you upload you wealth to the matrix so they can teleport it away. The funny part is the only advantage they claim crypto has is for them to run off to israel with stolen wealth.
>muh civil forfeiture
Lmao there are no laws for transporting wealth around the USA nice try jew, maybe if you land in another country they might take your gold, and those same countries have a firm grip on internet surveillance

[Anonymous No.57962566]

>>57962463
Also you jave it backwards, crypto is pumped with printed federal reserve notes and precious metals are heavily tamped downward; it gives crypto bros like you faith in the "dollar"

[Anonymous No.57962588]

>>57962437
For daily local transactions copper silver and gold coinage are the best forms of money and wealth. People are not always doing online transactions for the computer jews to surveil and or even ban.

[Anonymous No.57962594]

Faces of crypto
>captcha vvvt

[Anonymous No.57962652]

>>57961058
you've been demonetized for 50+ years
you have made no effort to re-enter the space
the most gold has amounted to money recently is through paxos tokenizing gold on ethereum

[Anonymous No.57962659]

>>57958847
So we’re coming to the point max kaiser has been saying since at least 2014
“One day no one will accept fiat for Bitcoin”

[Anonymous No.57962672]

>>57962652
I transact in silver often actually, it may have been demonetized but its still real money. Demonetization just means its not "legal tender"
>>57962659
Pic related

[Anonymous No.57962693]

>>57962566
>crypto is a perp
you are a kike trying to astroturf the death of fiat by attacking crypto, pretending to be a gold insect libertarian
you are dead fiatcel
we are going to kill you

[Anonymous No.57962710]

>>57962659
>max kaiser
irrelevant technically illiterate grifter faggot
this isn't about just bitcoin like the bagholder likes to LARP about

[Anonymous No.57962729]

>>57962693
Metals and coinage are the best, its funny you have this new strange jisf tactic to say people are pro fiat when they are explicitly telling you fiat is bad. You are just a retarded jesseposter

[Anonymous No.57962748]

>>57962693
>we
Lmao fucking cohens man

[Anonymous No.57962907]

>>57962710
I like what you’re saying. Go on…

[Anonymous No.57962926]

>>57962552
>Lmao there are no laws for transporting wealth around the USA nice try jew, maybe if you land in another country they might take your gold, and those same countries have a firm grip on internet surveillance

Yes there are subversive commie fuck, your constitution is literally abolished due to administrative law.

People literally have decorative metals seized

https://casetext.com/case/united-states-v-assorted-jewelry-valued-at

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-06-09/fbi-beverly-hills-safe-deposit-boxes-forfeiture-cash-jewelry

[Anonymous No.57962939]

>>57962926
pinoy chink baggie

[Anonymous No.57962957]

>>57962672
Nobody is saying it's not real money but you gold boomer faggots attack crypto while having no answers to the fact there is no wire system interantionally outside of swift and bitcoin.

Off those two bitcoin is the only one not devaluating it's unit of account in a parabolic way, the fact that people like peter schiff shill centralized ledger services to move metals internationally is hillarious.

>Demonetization just means its not "legal tender"

No it also means they made it illegal for you to do arbitrage between nation states, moving it internationally, use it as a hedge without capital gains and a whole other bunch of stuff.

Yeah metals are not debased, who the fuck cares if the price settlement happens in markets were paper metals are created and boomer metal shills like you attack crypto instead of offering an answer.

This is why people think you glow, it's all redirection against crypto to keep the status quo and it's getting clearer by the day that many gold shills probably work for the system on the same level than a keynsian shill like krugman does.

[Anonymous No.57962969]

>>57962926
>one instance where a guy had JEWelry
Not even bullion
>safety deposit boxes
Lmao discarded dont trust others with your metal. That company was money laundering
>subversive commie
Nice projection there bolshevik genrikh yagoda. Metals are the ultimate freedom. You realize all crypto is surveilled and can be confiscated with key strokes, novody has to show up anywhere to snag anything physical.

[Anonymous No.57962974]

>>57962939
oh did i hit a nerve shill? Administrative law and civil forfeiture has in effect abolished most western constitutions since 1971 of course nobody gave a single shit when the limit to move money between borders undeclared was 10k usd and a house was 15k usd.

Now we reached the breaking point of the monetary system and you shills are evident to anyone that has been here for more than a cycle.

[Anonymous No.57962993]

>>57962957
>theres no way for jews to eaaily run off to israel with stolen wealth if its in bar form
Literally every cryptobergs argument its the same thing over and over, wanting to teleport your wealthcout of the country. Ignoring any aspect of buying and selling or commerce, just running away. Whatre you running from stein?

[Anonymous No.57962998]

>>57962969
>Nice projection there bolshevik genrikh yagoda. Metals are the ultimate freedom. You realize all crypto is surveilled and can be confiscated with key strokes, novody has to show up anywhere to snag anything physical.

1_BTC has never been confiscated in a private key

2_Gold was confiscated once in the usa

3_You can move BTC between borders you can't with gold

4_ >You realize all crypto is surveilled

Yeah i can sell crypto for cash usd no kyc and the opposite i can't buy metals without kyc you faggots literally cornered yourselves.

But then again you are probably keynsian commie shills larping as metaltards.

[Anonymous No.57963005]

>>57962974
Meanwhile you can buy cars, meat, groceries, services, all using silver and gold coinage. Its privaye nobody has to know the prices paid for it. Sorry i dont want to hand my cash to the computerjew

[Anonymous No.57963008]

>>57962993
Are you about to show the badge officer?You seem more concerned with the Fatf travel rule than warren pocahontas

Yeah international settlement of a monetary system is critical because it's were price discovery happens, which is why metals are supressed because you can't do settlement on layer 1, but on tokenized metals which are inflated anyway.

[Anonymous No.57963047]

>>57962998
>gold waa confiscated once in the usa
Wrong and shill lie, banning does not confiscation. There was never a door to door confiscation, however banks readily gave up safety deposit boxes because a jew will always try to hold your wealth for you (to steal it) the fbi has seized tons of wallets of crypto they do it all the time.
>pic related
They banned gold because gigachad was draining the fed and transporting the precious metals back to Germany, this made the feds seethe because they were being trolled by their own money printing. The average citizen overwhelmingly did not comply with any gold seizing, unlike the banks, and people saw their gold double in paper value during deflation. The jew fears the precious metals in the hands of humans.

[Anonymous No.57963059]

>>57963008
>international settlement of debts
Lmao dude get your head out of the clouds retard, now youre simping for the imf and the federal reserve lmao
>but they should be allowed to steal our wealth cross borders and then inflate our currency.

[Anonymous No.57963075]

>>57963008
People can travel with gold coinage, youre literally making arguments for massive amounts of wealth which at that point should be in metals so it cannot simply disappear vie error 500s

[Anonymous No.57963113]

>>57962998
>suspected of saying "jewish nigger jew" on estonian silver coin authenticating forum
>nsa sha-512 elliptic curve rng backdoor generated key
>crypto account frozen, error 500
>error 500

[Anonymous No.57963139]

>>57963047
Hitler and Roosvelt banned gold for the same reason to do inflationary taxation over their cattle population that was moved to war.

>They banned gold because gigachad was draining the fed and transporting the precious metals back to Germany

Source it came to me in a dream

>this made the feds seethe because they were being trolled by their own money printing

Source it came to me in a dream

>The average citizen overwhelmingly did not comply with any gold seizing

True

>people saw their gold double in paper value during deflation

Source it came to me in a dream

>>57963075
No they can't it's illegal worldwide due to civil forfeiture and aml limit at ports of entry

>>57963113
A bitcoin wallet was seized in my dream

>>57963047

[Anonymous No.57963426]

>>57963139
Lmao you have no real argument because my meme is true and youre a jew. Youre literally a cryptofag trying to keep people from owning real wealth.