/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.57395419]

What made you finally admit individualism is what makes money

[Anonymous No.57395446]

Because individuals get rich by building and managing collectives. Queen bee vs. the workers.

[Anonymous No.57395493]

>>57395446
The individual gets rich because the individual is sovereign. The individual is God. A collective isn't real it's just a group of individuals. And when they form a "collective" they give up their ability.

I say again,
individualism.
makes.
money.

Or you thought you could remain anonymous your whole life, cuckboy?

[Anonymous No.57396586]

>>57395419
individuals cannot exist categorically without there being a collective to which an individual belongs

[Anonymous No.57397665]

>>57396586
did you sage me? commie bastard?

[Anonymous No.57397723]

>>57396586
nah
individual is objectively real
collective is fiction

[Anonymous No.57397739]

you're ALL gay fags. collectively

[Anonymous No.57397754]

>>57395493
Is the sovereign individual any good?
What are the characteristics one must have to thrive in the fourth stage?

[Anonymous No.57397757]

>>57395419
>thinks elon made the first Tesla all by himself

Kys, black Africans made it

[Anonymous No.57397807]

>>57395493
>A collective isn't real it's just a group of individuals.
That's fucking correct.
It's for this reason that soldiers, even at war, even when taking and following orders, can be tried for their crimes as individuals.
We are individuals, free and sovereign, FIRST and foremost.
Without individuals, whether acting in collaboration or alone, we would have nothing. This is a maxim.

[Anonymous No.57398364]

>>57397754
ha, I own it. thiel likes it and I like thiel but I never read it.

>>57395419
The concept really isn't that well understood, take for example this Paul brother. He HAS a prime drink, so the prime drink sells. Humans are perfectly keyed into what another individual, a model, has. That and only that, is the mechanism for a trade, an exchange. One individual desiring to be like another individual. In America we get it. In the communist EU, they'd never get it.

[Anonymous No.57398383]

>>57396586

Not true. A brick can exist without the house. The house cannot exist without the bricks. Which is why you focus on brick strength. The world's largest building, made out of the world's weakest bricks, is worthless.

[Anonymous No.57398453]

Individualism only makes money in America because society as a collective is sick. It despises itself and it’s sickening demands upon others yet at the same time cannot stop, so it venerates individuals who can make it feel better about itself even if they are bad people. Do we really think shooting cars into space and amateur boxing each other are what great leaders do?

[Anonymous No.57398592]

>>57398453
well it's amateur boxing not nobodies boxing. These are already famous and important people who now also box too. That means they are even more talented than they were. Maybe they can do anything?

Same with the car thing. It's a business magnate who also does 1-of-a-kind stunts. This makes him seem transgressive of many many fields.

Man's deepest desire is to exist in great measure, not to "stay in my lane". Usually this is achieved through daydreaming as a great man, which is what most Americans do.

America runs on Don Quixote

[Anonymous No.57398613]

>>57395419
Musk sold his soul to the psycho death cult

[Anonymous No.57398632]

>>57395419
That's not what makes money

[Anonymous No.57398654]

>>57398632
i just cancelled my ticket to Mars

[Anonymous No.57398701]

The town that my extended family lives in within a shitty 3rd world country collectively helps their neighbors rebuild whenever something happens or is lost. Nobody asks them, there is no mandate, people simply feel obliged and driven to help their neighbor because it just seems like the right thing to do, because seeing the person next to you suffer feels almost as bad as suffering the thing itself.
Apparently the US and Europe used to be like this a long time ago, but that time is past. Now people can't even stand being in the presence of another person, the thought of it is grotesque to many. People pay thousands of dollars to sit in an airplane seat with 12 more inches of space between the closest passenger.

There is individualism, and then there is individualism corrupted and taken to an irrational extreme - hyperindividualism.

[Anonymous No.57398754]

>>57398701
I can only get so erect mr. thirdy

[Anonymous No.57398832]

>>57395419
Individualism allows you to win at a game I have no desire to take part in. I don't wanna be a self-made gorillionaire that watches his lessers writhe around in the muck, I wanna live comfy life in a comfy community where I help people out because I know if I was ever in a bind they'd help me out too

[Anonymous No.57398833]

>>57398592
I don’t disagree, but I don’t think that detracts from my point. If our leaders are trying to evoke feelings of grandiosity and support from the population with silly displays like this, then that is not leading that is goading. What leader ever drove societies success sitting back casting macabre plays of fantasy dripping with nihilism.

[Anonymous No.57398881]

>>57396586
Cuck tier mindset
Marx was against immigration and gun control, btw

[Anonymous No.57398905]

>>57398833
You have a rosy view of the natural state of man. This repulsive situation is the best option we have, because for every 1000 soulless influencer-tier actions, we get 1 or 2 extremely soulful based-leader actions. And in any other system we get 0 based-leader actions.

[Anonymous No.57399049]

How do communists get around the fact that their movement has individuals (marx, lennin, etc.) at the center of the movement. It's arguable they are even more prominent than individuals that promote individualism (rand). What arguments would they even use? They'll relinquish their godhood even though the masses put them there?

[Anonymous No.57399097]

>>57395419
And non-dualism is what makes you happy.
Sorry you can't have both.

[Anonymous No.57399121]

>>57398905
We’ve managed to turn the planet into a trash heap and the cope is that were not capable of more. If humanity is truly not capable of better than nature has its own ways of moving the dial forward.

[Anonymous No.57399167]

>>57399049
There is no genuine or principled argument, because the idea was simply a tool to convince the commons to transfer power from the tsars to the Bolsheviks. What better way than to convince the tens of millions of barely educated slavs that they are a part of a greater good and being led by charismatic psuedo christlike figures that are pushing an ideal that is a simulacrum of a religion.

[Anonymous No.57399169]

>>57399121
>We’ve managed to turn the planet into a trash heap
This is your bitch boy cope excuse for not having accomplished anything. Better change your mindset ASAP

[Anonymous No.57399220]

>>57399121
More raw energy can resolve this, trash can be burned. Excess energy comes from a large surplus and surplus comes from individuals modeling for other individuals which makes trade happen.

[Anonymous No.57399248]

>>57399167
>slavs
Communism was started by a British/German Jew in Britain/Germany.

Can you please stop attributing your cancer to others?

[Anonymous No.57399306]

>>57399248
Bro, slavs are the ones who took it and ran with it. Can't blame anyone else for that level of retardation. Probably wiped out the small amount of quality genes slavs had.

[Anonymous No.57399339]

Everyone with two brain cells should now that, for the microeconomics perspective, freedom in the markets and capital flow maximizes growth and innovation.

For the national macroeconomic scale, it is necessary control of the markets and big corporations. Without that control, great capitals will invevitably exert influence and distortion in politics, democracy, policy, social issues, laws, etc...

There is no such thing as a one solution for all. China is an example of how big capital can thrive and be tolerant with non-democratic societies.

[Anonymous No.57399357]

>>57399248
And you were conceived in a gas station bathroom stall, doesn't mean the gas station is responsible for your worthless existence.

[Anonymous No.57399451]

>>57395419
>rich fanbase makes money
tesla bond is still rated as Baa3

[Anonymous No.57399473]

>>57399169
Are you suggesting dying oceans are a sign of stability?

>>57399220
Energy aimed at the wrong direction cannot solve fucking shit. China has increased their energy consumption massively and uses it to build products nobody needs, the profits of which are invested in buildings nobody wants, so a population where nobody matters can consume more.

[Anonymous No.57399498]

>>57395493
>A collective isn't real it's just a group of individuals

And whenever any of those get challenged by the big dick Chad the rest of them follow suit

[Anonymous No.57399504]

>>57396586
Other way around you bottom tranny

[Anonymous No.57400220]

>>57395419
that wall of fat

[Anonymous No.57400279]

>>57395419
Noooooooooo! We must love our neighbor by allowing British bankers to run our economy, flood us with immigrants and steal from us because it's all about KINDNESS and NOT BEING AN ASSHOLE!

[Anonymous No.57401744]

>>57400220
He's better than you. Jealous

[Anonymous No.57401968]

>>57395419
Have you heard of jews?

[Anonymous No.57401975]

>>57397754
sexo

[Anonymous No.57401980]

>>57395419
>>57395446
>>57395493
>>57396586
>>57397665
>>57397723
>>57397739

This is all an abstraction. None of you even exist...