I have a bad feeling about early to mid 2025

[Anonymous No.57393832]

shit's going to crash hard right, like the biggest economic hangover in history. can anyone here confirm? I have a number of reasons, but it's more of a feeling.

[Anonymous No.57393928]

>>57393832
There is much talk about the big recession that is about to come and all kinds of apocalyptic scenarios of a crash worst than 2008.
I dont believe them that much. They will print their way out of it. We may see a scary scenario before a bull market but that's it.

[Anonymous No.57393934]

>>57393832
it wont take that long.

it will crash this summer and take BTC with it. Thats why im selling 80k.

Remember the fed is talking about dropping interest rates in the next few months for a reason. because parts of the economy are going to begin to fail.

The problem is, everyone is gambling on a soft landing, which leaves no wiggle room. If inflation has even the smallest bounce, its going to scare the shit out of everyone and they will have to raise rates again. When this happens alot of small-mid cap businesses are going to fail.

[Anonymous No.57393944]

>>57393832
that is when the nuclear war happens

[Anonymous No.57393956]

>>57393928
they cant print their way out of it, without it actually happening first.

if they print too soon, it creates more inflation, and causes the whole cycle of raising interest rates to get even worse. when interest rates are exactly what is going to cause the crash in the first place.

the fed put is falling off the table. they would have to wait for us to fall into deflation to print. but whats going to happen is the biggest companies are going to survive, while the small companies are going to die out, all while inflation remains above 3%. so it makes things really difficult for the fed to just throw money at.

[Anonymous No.57393966]

>>57393928
also it wont be worse than 2008, but it will last longer, so it will feel worse, especially if you are earning under 60k

[Anonymous No.57393979]

>>57393934
I can't see it happening during an election year. the powers that be will pressure Jerome and pump the economy in whatever ways they can up until the election is decided.

>whats going to happen is the biggest companies are going to survive, while the small companies are going to die out
not really a problem in the short term. workers can survive on debt-spending for a while

[Anonymous No.57394002]

>>57393956
Monetary inflation is different than cost inflation. Cost inflation has been tamed to some extent by increasing interest rates, but at the same time monetary inflation keeps expanding.
Through the RRP, public spending, and the BTFP they have injected a tremendous amount of money into the economy at the same time the rates were increasing.
Cost inflation will probably be at that 3 percent they calculate, but monetary inflation (increase in the price of financial assets) will run high.
There is a lag effect on it, so now the prices on the market are still kind of depressed, but the machine that transfers wealth from the poor to the rich will keep going.
We may see some bump along the way but i doubt it will be very serious.

[Anonymous No.57394006]

>>57393979
how is he going to pump the economy without causing more inflation?

[Anonymous No.57394017]

>>57394002
there is a 12 month lag on rate increases so we should see peak effect from the rates around july.

if we get a tiny bounce in cpi here, you will see stock prices dump again like 2022.

[Anonymous No.57394107]

>>57394017
I am very uncertain of what happens after March. RRP dries out and BTFP finishes. Cpi will probably hold.
Some correction in the stock market is still on the cards, but i dont expect a fall in prices like 2022. Too much liquidity has been injected since October.
They will probably start lowering rates in March to keep things afloat.

[Anonymous No.57394143]

>>57394002
>the machine that transfers wealth from the poor to the rich will keep going.
eventually something is going to crack. I don't know what, but it will.

[Anonymous No.57394168]

>>57394107
>>57394002
election year markets go up
global WEF crisis soon so money printer go brrr

[Anonymous No.57394198]

>>57394143
The actual fiat system seems to be unsustainable. They could try to impose a system where people's money is locked at negative interest rates in nominal terms to save it but is like playing with fire.
People have been pushed a bit too far i believe. Cant fuck around too much now. With a lowkey introduction of cbdc's and a general adoption of it with time a world of possibilites will open to manipulate the economy.
If things keep going the way they are now we are running into hyperinflation or a great depression where there is a big default on debt.
I doubt they will let that happen though. Too risky.

[Anonymous No.57394331]

>>57394143
it has already cracked via inflation destroying the fed put. if they print more money, it creates more inflation, and then they have to further raise interest rates, which further destroys the economy and they have to print more money, repeating the cycle.

The length between money prints is going to shorten, and we will see hyper inflation and introduction of a new system over the next 20 years.

what really sucks is they could just let a recession ahppen and not print any money, grind through it for 10 years, and have a 1950-2000 type boom all over again.

the probelm is the people with all the money wont accept losing half of their wealth, and will vote to print everytime. and theyll end up naked in the streets by the time they are in diapers.

[Anonymous No.57395029]

>>57394198
>actual fiat system seems to be unsustainable
Yes, it seems all debt based systems are unsustainable. Fractional reserve would end with everyone owing money to the lender and not enough money to pay it. And the current Federal Reserve system is just a ponzi by a different name. I guess the two were supposed to balance out but now we just have ponzi.
>people's money is locked at negative interest rates
It basically already is
>cbdc's
So I guess this would allow complete granular control of how we spend our money. I just don't see it. Money hasn't been real for a long

>>57394331
>grind through it for 10 years
That might have worked in 2010. The US would turn into Haiti in that time or best case scenario South Africa. It wouldn't be a homely depression with grandma saving bacon grease. It would be niggers killing and stealing everything all over the US and Europe. Russia would probably come out on top there.
But anyways it doesn't actually fix the problem at it's core.

[Anonymous No.57395357]

>>57394331
Agree with this post amongst others. Letting a recession happen is no longer politically feasible so we'll go the hyperinflation route, slowly drifting towards destruction of the system.

>>57393832 keep this mind...you shouldn't expect a crash. Sitting in cash will erode your money faster than anything. With the clown system you need to stay invested in order to keep up w inflation.

[Anonymous No.57395383]

of all the times to be born, we were placed right at the start of the modern day dark ages lol. But hey at least I got my Iphone! Ugh

[Anonymous No.57395584]

>>57395383
I lived happy times before there were a lot of self phones and i lived the golden era of internet, but its true that we have very dark years ahead.

[Anonymous No.57395600]

>>57393832
Its because its another Trump election year. The jews would sooner SHUT IT DOWN and burn everything while they watch from their bunkers than let Drumpf win again

[Anonymous No.57395641]

>>57395029
> It basically already is
In real terms it already is, i am saying in nominal term
> I just don't see it. Money hasn't been real for a long
With the CBDCs you can pinpoint specific targets to extract money from people and force them to spend it before an expiring date. Is an amazing tool to shape the economy.

[Anonymous No.57395647]

>>57395600
If Trumpie wins hold on to your butts.

[Anonymous No.57395675]

>>57395641
>With the CBDCs you can pinpoint specific targets to extract money from people and force them to spend it before an expiring date. Is an amazing tool to shape the economy.
Initially I was thinking the population wouldn't be buck broken so easily, but that's naive. However I wonder if this would simply introduce barter to the normies. Like how people trade sardines in prison,

[Anonymous No.57395757]

I see a lot of you guys confused, so I'll give you this hint: research the "18.5 years cycle".
You can thank me later.

[Anonymous No.57395811]

>>57393832
Crashes mean money printing and goychecks. This is bullish for crypto and stonks. The jews are deathly afraid of deflation and will money print their way away from it everytime.

[Anonymous No.57395883]

>>57393832
yup
We'll pivot and the US will maneuver through the global economy in a way that it'll just work
Then in 2025 comes the pain

[Anonymous No.57396220]

>>57393832
Yeah, it's gonna be shit. Probably not hyperinflation, as that happened for dynamics that don't really apply to USD, but it will just be dead. Fuckin nothing.

t. oldfag

[Anonymous No.57396373]

>>57393832
I spent 2022 waiting for a recession. Didn't happen. Even with a 100% chance.
Its possible the Fed has more information, tools, projections, and simulations to avoid disaster. I do not worry about this anymore.
And even if it does happen, I try to leave markets during downswings anyway.

Pic rel is from Dec. 2022.

[Anonymous No.57396440]

>>57396373
We're in a recession right now. Normies think it's 2008 out there and from their perspective it is but the fed has pumped FAGMAN and gaslit the economists hard enough to officially say we are not akschually in a recession.

[Anonymous No.57396663]

>>57393832
Already happened in 22/23

[Anonymous No.57397062]

>>57393934

[Anonymous No.57397148]

But crypto is going to double, surely before any crash?

[Anonymous No.57397166]

>>57396440
pretty much this. Fed has been going stealth QE with various facilities, while the government measures for inflation and unemployment are utterly broken.
Pic related should scare the hell out of anyone with more than a couple brain cells

[Anonymous No.57397203]

>>57396440
>..and gaslit the economists hard
Not to mention that the broader population don't care about the economy - apart from a partisan-angel, and as such they are extremely uninformed.
An traditional economic crash is very unlikely, bc you could just inflate it, make the stockmarket/housing market go to new ATH, record wage increases etc. ..and put the blame for inflation on greedycorp or however your "enemy" is.
Most ppl wouldn't even know what to think, they all operate within the framework of partisan narrative and truth being relative and all..

[Anonymous No.57397270]

>>57397203
So the guilty are going to get away with it, is what you’re saying?