/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.57300377]

How are some people so social? I work with a guy that will talk to literally anyone and hit it off, he just talks to anyone and moves in and out of any social group, he even gets along with me and I don't like people.

[Anonymous No.57300385]

have you tried taking your meds?

[Anonymous No.57300388]

>>57300377
You just have to be a good listener and talk about anything with enthusiasm. That’s it. Talk about cats or bugs it doesn’t matter as long as people feel good when they speak to you. The content doesn’t matter

[Anonymous No.57300415]

>>57300388
I hate when people blabber about useless inconsequential slop. That OP guy would never 'hit it off' with my vibes. OP is just an introvert

[Anonymous No.57300430]

>>57300415
Ok? You are one person I assume OP is talking about the general population not a /biz/ user. Most people just want to feel good and talk the void away

[Anonymous No.57300433]

>>57300377
he wouldn't hit it off with me
but then again i hate everyone except my family

[Anonymous No.57300439]

>>57300433
>I hate everyone

[Anonymous No.57300444]

sometimes it's just easy to talk to someone. they have approachable characteristics and there's an immediately obvious subject to discuss that draws them in. the gift of a social person is perceiving those characteristics and subjects in most everyone they meet

[Anonymous No.57300451]

>>57300377
he just genuinely enjoys interacting with ppl and it doesnt drain his energy

[Anonymous No.57300456]

>>57300439
kiddo ive been married for over 12 years but nice try

[Anonymous No.57300459]

>>57300444
Checked

[Anonymous No.57300462]

>>57300444
It’s called the halo effect
>>57300377
OP how attractive would you say your coworker is? Height? Hair? Teeth? Skin? Blemished or not? I’m being genuine here to try to give me your best description

[Anonymous No.57300486]

>>57300462
what I'm saying is that a social person is able to MAKE people easy to talk to - by perceiving the things that make other people sociable and drawing them out

[Anonymous No.57300499]

>>57300377
>act interested and excited to see literally everyone
>keyword act, 24/7
>remember things about people, bring it up later
everyone will fucking love you
im intelligent enough to see through the people that do this as a means of social manipulation, even though often they aren't cognizant of their behavior pattern themselves and are doing it in a feedback loop of having at some point realized their social status improved by behaving this way - and even I can't help but engage and enjoy these people.

those are the first steps, to compound them
>dont let people hear you complain
>dont talk shit on anyone
>when you feel tempted to talk shit, instead, find someone else and say something nice about them or to them
this is all disingenuous as fuck, doesn't matter if you're doing it all totally aware or not, its social manipulation regardless. But it will make everyone want to be your friend. Being fit and healthy looking makes it all even more effective.

[Anonymous No.57300529]

>>57300499
Based realizer

[Anonymous No.57300610]

>>57300377
it's fun

[Anonymous No.57300670]

>>57300377
they are called "extraverts" they are soulless people that thrive off other's recognition, if they take a moment to introspect they get very sad :(
they wish they could be content with themselves as much as I or you wish we could be content socialising.

they are useful people but are never your friend, which is another thing that upsets them, they also struggle in romantic relationships that obviously require a deeper connection which they are unable to sustain.

so don't put them on a pedestal too much, we all have our preferences and everyone wants to be something they're not. all you can do is keep developing yourself :)

[Anonymous No.57300707]

>>57300377
checked. thats me anon. i can do that with anyone. its about reading facial expressions, and largely mimicking someones behaviour and body language.
example:
nerdy asian kid at work--from a good family, very smart, highly conservative, but does not like to be in big crowds. so i mimick his body language and never really point my body directly towards him, and ask him about his family and how work is going for him. now he comes to my office just to chill sometimes. you should avoid smiling excessively to these types of people.

another example, typical whore:
you should sneak in some subtle compliments like "hey nice job on ____" and give the "white guy smile" and be outgoing and bubbly. thats how they are, just mirror what you see but never over do it.
also, you shouldnt really speak about yourself so much, you should prompt others to tell them what is on their mind.
there is some free advice anon, ive never read any of those books about PUA or nonsense, this is all just learned behavior.

[Anonymous No.57300712]

>>57300430
I talk the void away with close friends not randos at work,that's just cringe and annoying

[Anonymous No.57300722]

>>57300444
super checked. this anon was able to succinctly describe what I wrote in a few paragraphs. thanks anon. good advice.

[Anonymous No.57300730]

Not everyone has autism or asperger like the people here. For them it's as normal as buying a cola at a café

[Anonymous No.57300748]

>>57300499
checked and 100% correct

[Anonymous No.57300761]

>>57300670
sad to write this out, but you bring up valid points, and im sure some people that OP described also have some or all of these problems. im sure i have at least one of these problems.

[Anonymous No.57300774]

>>57300377
Social skill can be trained, just like every other skill.
The more you talk and socialize the easier it becomes and more smooth you become.

[Anonymous No.57300855]

>>57300377
Only thing I want is for people to leave me alone. For some reason people will go out of their way to start shit even if you're minding your own business. I don't know if people are just bored or angry or what. I shouldn't have to worry about getting stabbed putting my garbage out.

[Anonymous No.57300957]

>>57300377
question is not how, thats not hard to figure if youre not retarded. question is how they do it all day, every day for their entire lives, nonstop. At some point youve seen and heard everything, what is there to enjoy from others? latest gossip? some retarded anecdote youve heard 20 times already? same old lame politics/religion arguments? it gets really tiresome. Once you figure out most people there are no more surprises and that happens at like 25 yo, you realize most people just hang to not be alone. Or for benefit either sexual, economic or strategic. They use each other. People bore me to death these days, even dudes like elon musk or whatever idol kids worship today would be meh to be around with

[Anonymous No.57301021]

>>57300456
>Kiddo
>Nice try

[Anonymous No.57301175]

Maybe he's drunk and/or on drugs, seems to work for me.

[Anonymous No.57301196]

These are the only people I make friends with, if someone like this doesn't talk to me I don't have any friends.
A conversation between me and other types of normies to too standoffish.

[Anonymous No.57302646]

>>57300499
First part is true

Second part isn't. Being able to talk shit on people that you feel owe you more respect than they show and people in your peer group standing behind you is the mark of the alpha female, it is a vulgar display of power

[Anonymous No.57302852]

>>57300670
copium
I'm an extrovert, every relationship I had was long term, I have friends that I'd kill for. I find social gatherings enjoyable mostly, people like me usually. Call me a normie, but at the end of the day, who's in their mom's basement?

[Anonymous No.57302925]

>>57300377
Shit like this is just biological. The part of your brain that's social is just strongly active for whatever genetic reason. That's all there is too it. Yeah there's learning involved too but it was bound to happen so long as he wasn't trapped in a basement during his youth.

I took some picamilon once and that shit made me talkative as fuck for 15 minutes but then after that I just went back to normal. It's all just biological.

[Anonymous No.57302935]

>>57300377
It's called charisma and you lack it.

[Anonymous No.57303178]

>>57300377
Different people have different qualities.
Be confident in yourself and leverage your qualities while minimizing your flaws to a point where they atleast dont compromise your wellbeing in life.
You wouldnt use a greyhound to sniff drugs and you wouldnt use a bloodhound to race.
Best thing anyone can do is truly know themselves.

[Anonymous No.57303782]

>>57300462
he's average, I guess.

[Anonymous No.57303880]

>>57300377

simple Meyers- Briggs shit retards. There are (16) personality types, and your colleague is probably high in extroverted traits, possibly to quite an extreme level.

You, on the other hand, are high in introverted traits.

Me? I'm INTP, and I hate cunts like that. I would just punch him in the nuts and tell him to bog off.

[Anonymous No.57303917]

>>57302935
I have charisma but it's different, it's more the "mysterious" kinda thing, because I don't talk much people can't figure me out, people also like the fact that I'm respectful and well spoken also. This actually attracts women when you seem to genuinely not have any interest in them and yet seem confident at the same time. However some people see you as arrogant when they don't even know you, just because you don't talk to them. I've been looked at as a potential leader since I was in school. However on the inside all I want to be is left alone and for me probably 90% of interaction is painful.

[Anonymous No.57303948]

>>57303880
you wouldnt do shit in a cubicle farm environment you shit-talking piece of shit. you would mutter "hehe-yeah... i g-gotta go" and shuffle away, bitch.

[Anonymous No.57304010]

>>57303948

>cubicle farm

I don't work in a cubicle farm. I stay at home and trade crypto like a real man.

Unlike you, who more than likely subsists on the daily humiliation of being employed by another.

[Anonymous No.57304100]

>>57300377
I'm the same way, Op. But I've managed to successfully hide it. Nobody suspects how much I hate them all. In the meantime, I just watch them like animals in my imaginary zoo.

[Anonymous No.57304135]

>>57304010
>I stay at home and trade crypto like a real man.

LOL

LMAO

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.57304154]

>>57300430
Shutup retard

[Anonymous No.57304209]

I feel tired and miserable when I spend time with 99% of the people. And even the ones I like, I would hate them if I spent 3 days in a row together. Would pills help me with that?

[Anonymous No.57304337]

>>57300377
I’m that guy and it’s called empathy. To me it’s super obvious how people are feeling and people just feel dumb to me with how unaware they are of other people’s and usually also their own emotions. But then again i know that’s how people good at math feel about people that aren’t good at math.

The most basic truth in why i am able to operate so good with other people is the rather nihilistic fact that we are all the same. You aren’t special or better than others, and neither is the other guy. Hating other people is dumb because we are all similiar and you have your own set of bad traits. There is no ”you” and the ”others”. Once again you aren’t special or much different from everybody else. Once you realise this it’s easy to be pleasent to other people because we all basically like the same shit.

[Anonymous No.57304370]

>>57304209
yes but dont take pills, start accepting that the natural state of humans is not shoulder-to-shoulder in a 1/4 acre lot. you should hate your neighbor and want to destroy them. theyre taking your food ffs.

[Anonymous No.57304390]

>>57300670
>they also struggle in romantic relationships that obviously require a deeper connection

It’s more of a supply kind of question. When i meet so many interesting people often, it’s hard to just stay with one.

[Anonymous No.57304445]

>>57300377
I try to engage in small talk but most people don’t seem to know how to talk about random shit

[Anonymous No.57304460]

those people, along with nosy karens, hold civilization together. being anti-social is a bad thing, humans are social animals.

"introversion" is just narcissism, which is anti-social self preservation behavior. modern society cultivates this quality in people, and this cultivation accelerated exponentially with social media.

appreciate the karens, the nosty neighbors, the gossiping old ladies, the silver lining finders, the type-A go-getters, and the social butterflies. don't look down on them because you feel like their paradigm doesn't align with your narcissistic escapism. also pray to Jesus for guidance.

[Anonymous No.57304546]

also pro tip for the retards ITT: if you "hate" anything it means you hate yourself. the outer world is merely a reflection of your inner state. so hating others mean you hate things in yourself.

thank me later.

[Anonymous No.57304844]

>>57304460
The only reason that I'm antisocial is becuase I'm forced into the darkness to escape these chronic chatterers. Also there's no such thing as escapism becuase nothing escapes reality, you would know that if you wern't a delusional christfag who has to dream about alternate dimensions in order to cope.

[Anonymous No.57304861]

>>57300388
No. People that do that and have no inherent charisma or social capital are mocked just as hard as the quiet autist.

[Anonymous No.57304870]

>>57300499
Not checked and you're a faggot.

[Anonymous No.57304871]

>>57304460
>those people, along with nosy karens, hold civilization together. being anti-social is a bad thing, humans are social animals.
this is completely true

its the nosey Karen's that separate us from being brown shit hole non-functioning states; it took a long time for me to understand and admit this, but it's the truth

[Anonymous No.57304903]

>>57300957
You either have it or you don't. All the niggers ITT trying to figure out how to be a normie don't realize how easily people see through them. Nobody who interacts with you more than a couple times is that stupid. It only works in a corporate environment where they are forced to talk behind your back.

[Anonymous No.57304934]

dude knows the secret to getting pussy

dude is drowning in puss for sure

[Anonymous No.57304942]

>>57304460
I'll accept this on the condition that both ends of the spectrum are narcissists, but this is probably just demoralization to make you feel bad about not being an oversocialized fuckwit that goes along with anything.

[Anonymous No.57304957]

Idk I have no rizz. I'm tall, handsome, and get approached by women. But then my sperg spaghetti starts and I see the attraction die on their faces

Blackpillers are so full of shit. It's literally all rizz, always has been.

[Anonymous No.57304991]

>>57304460
>"introversion" is just narcissism
Nah, introversion is just a downspiral. The more time you spend alone, the more nervous you become, and the harder breaking out of the shell becomes. Your poor take doesn't consider the fact that a good chunk of introverts wish deep down that they had more confidence and could socialize with everyone. Maybe you're referring to a particular fringe category of introverts, but I'd say a majority were born just naturally being shy and quiet

[Anonymous No.57305060]

>>57300377
my gf too. at every party she spend so much time with lot of people.

[Anonymous No.57305094]

>>57304957
It's true, it's torture because when you are a teenager or in college you believe it's something that will come eventually but it just deteriorates and then panic sets in when you hit 30 and there was no heroes journey after all. A provisional life.

[Anonymous No.57305126]

>>57304546
based

[Anonymous No.57305144]

>>57300377
I recently started a job at a big warehouse with thousands of employees, you get put in a team with like 20 people, they value your social interactions with your team almost as much as your work. Recently the team leader came to me and told me my work is lacking, i dont show enthusiasm and i dont really fit in the group. I feel miserable and get anxiety just driving to that place at 5 in the morning and struggle to put a smile on my face.

Then there are people all cheerful and excited at a time a normal human being would be asleep, they look so happy to be stuck in this prison, doing repetitive tasks for almost minimum wage for 8 hours a day... I will never understand.

[Anonymous No.57305170]

>>57304957
its still true with regards to getting a foot in the door in a modern context (dating apps and social media)

I have never matched a looksmatching white girl on apps (Im white) but in college and university I was very popular because of charisma and status

[Anonymous No.57305183]

>>57305144
Thats a big workplace where a lot of unethical and illegal things happen on the daily. They want extraverted 'go along to get along' types to reduce risk

[Anonymous No.57305306]

>>57305094
Too real. Anyway, 2024 is the year we build our confidence, r.. right?
>>57305170
Yeah, it allows me to overperform with dating apps, which I've always found to be the most soulless and trashiest conversations ever, despite my better efforts of trying to maintain tiny amounts of class. So my options are STD ridden whores from the internet vs fumbling real life organic connections because I can't maintain my spaghetti. I'm tired.

[Anonymous No.57306233]

>>57304957
>and get approached by women. But then my sperg spaghetti starts and I see the attraction die on their faces
I'm kinda similar, women sometimes approach me and I fuck it up by being all nervous and weird, can't help it especially if I actually find the girl attractive, I end up saying stupid shit that creeps them out and makes them uncomfortable.

[Anonymous No.57307747]

>>57306233
I was like this until I met my current gf and started to fuck 4x times/week on a regular basis. Also being validated (internally) by a girl to share the daily life is a good confidence boost.
Now when I check a nice looking girl I don't mind watching her and discuss if anything comes up naturally. I reached a stage where I don't fucking care what she thinks, I found her pretty we exchanged a word and done. Most often than not they leave the 2min small talk with a smile. It doesn't happen often but I feel like this is new to me to be like this.

[Anonymous No.57307755]

>>57306233
I'd say don't focus too much on this, focus on having a good time

[Anonymous No.57307810]

>>57300377
>>57300610
Its because social guy isnt thinking about what other people think about him. hes already given up on that because his social status has been elevated by his own social skills.

its a paradox of sorts.

[Anonymous No.57307841]

>>57304445
How's your car tires jimbo?

[Anonymous No.57308900]

>>57300377
I had a best friend like that in college. He could strike up a conversation with literally anyone and oftentimes would given the smallest opportunity. He's a hermit that lives in his dad's hoarder house and has no gf now

[Anonymous No.57308929]

>>57305183
Yeah in the govment they teach you to look for loners and types that recognize they are in a machine because they could be a terrorist