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I don't understand why most of /biz/ just abandoned pop culture collectibles (cards, comics, sportsballs, etc) after 2021. Did the vintage shit get to the highest point it will ever get to during the pandemic? Unless something revolutionary happens in the space, probably. But modern shit is still going up, most non-MTG product now skyrockets like a year or two max after release instead of the 5+ that it used to take. Or in the case of One Piece or basketball cards, much faster than that.

>> No.57297833

MTG got printed into the ground (alongside extremely questionable - and that's putting it charitably - DEI based art and design decisions). Meanwhile, the rated vintage video game scam blew up and exposed itself as, well, a literal scam. A few /biz/raelis got burned on these things, so that's possibly why it's not talked about much. Also, /biz/ was never really more than a crypto board (excepting /smg/, meme stock generals, and the rare "something else" thread).

>> No.57297874

>>57297226
It's all just kids trading pokemon still. Right? The values realized will die when the people that loved the game as kids die. Unless the game keeps right on being super popular without much change for the next 100 years or something, it's a short term flip, not a long term hold. There's nothing wrong with that if you're in the business of professionally valuing and flipping modern collectibles, but it is a job, not an investment.

What holds value 100 years down the road is anyone's guess, but it's usually not items mass produced for collectors. That's something any antiques dealer will tell you.

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>>57297874
>What holds value 100 years down the road is anyone's guess
It's actually a pretty simple formula so far

anything related to vice
liquor
drugs
sex
violence
gambling
greed

and it's usually stuff that advertises these things that hold value across time. Whiskey bottles and old guns and playing cards and brothel tokens and horror movie posters and druggist bottles and saloon advertising and precious metals and old money and ads for prostitutes and such like stuff.

some things are timeless. We find them fascinating no matter how old or new they are, and lots of people decorate their lives with the artifacts of these ancient sins.

cards, comics, sports stuff, those are cool and a lot of them have high values. Most don't. And eventually they'll all be worthless. Because none of them has the sin factor that collectors will always love.

>> No.57298083

Women sell their bodies more than ever now. Men need a female to feel complete. Women always need men to give them more money, it's the perfect scam.

Put your spirit above your flesh and you can over come earthly desires

>> No.57298122

>>57297874
Based on that premise the pokemon cards should achieve peak valuation in 20-30 years time as the people with kid nostalgia for them would be at peak networth then
But in this line of reasoning i also expect to see a quick decline of stamp valuations as boomers die and modern generations dont even know what stamps are

>> No.57299467

>>57298122
stamps lost all value 20 years ago.

cards peaked last year or so.

>> No.57299480

>>57298122
the people that loved cards are in their 40's and 50's now.

that ship has sailed.

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That boom coincided with millennials hitting ages 25-30.
Pop culture, maker culture and geek culture was at a peak in the early-mid 2010's. Just compare some of Adam Savage's comicon walks from 10 years ago to now.
Now, while most people would love to engage in that atmosphere, there's less money floating around. Shit's tighter. People are pissier. There's no unifying forces out there like there used to be for cosplay and anime. Broadcast TV did a lot to ensure most people were exposed to the same environment of pop culture. Now we're all fragmented. Even Marvel fans hate parts of marvel.
Different times.