/XMR/ Monero General

[Anonymous No.57068762]

Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

[Anonymous No.57068778]

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>57001516

[Anonymous No.57068791]

START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

[Anonymous No.57068799]

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

[Anonymous No.57068803]

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Monero-only darknet escrow service
https://pastebin.com/raw/7DW8hSgk

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
>Dark Matter
>DrugHub #
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Hectate Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Smackers
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>Wizard's Palace #
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/fknwLx6q


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

[Anonymous No.57068809]

START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE


>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

[Anonymous No.57068817]

>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

[Anonymous No.57069101]

the infinite supply ruins everything good about this

[Anonymous No.57069468]

>>57069101

Don't Buy Monero, asshole

[Anonymous No.57069851]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9JpKXBw5Z4

[Anonymous No.57070022]

>>57068762
The kycnot.me individual should finally fix the captcha below the request form. Shit‘s a drag, really.

[Anonymous No.57070260]

nothing ever happens

[Anonymous No.57070616]

>>57068799
>The lowdown on Pirate Chain
LMAO
Little old Pirate Chain is such a threat that you've resorted to outright lying?

>JL777 is a reputable dev with dozens of projects and mountains of code under his belt.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1372879.0

>Pirate is now atomic swappable across 99% of all crypto. https://dexstats.info/

Pic related is from an actual atomic swap dex where you can swap ARRR right now with dozens of other crypto's and no kyc.

[Anonymous No.57070624]

>>57070616
https://github.com/jl777?tab=overview&from=2016-12-01&to=2016-12-31

[Anonymous No.57070632]

>>57070616
>piratechain
premined scam bullshit coin. gtfo

[Anonymous No.57070759]

I pray to Odin, please give me doubles.

[Anonymous No.57071452]

>>57070759
There is only one true god

[Anonymous No.57071494]

hi frens
best currency

[Anonymous No.57071698]

>>57071452
Well, we'll see if Odin delivers. Gonna enjoy my christmas feast in the meantime.

[Anonymous No.57072176]

Just a heads up, there's a new & improved Monero-only darknet poker site open for business, details are as follows:

>POKER IS BACK ON THE DARK NET

The original PokerClub had a longstanding relationship with /u/n0tr1v and the Dark Forest forum where we had our own chat room and link to the game. The poker room that /u/n0tr1v has created has a better layout and functionality than the original PokerClub

The main game on Dark Forest is the lowest limit Texas Hold-Em anywhere. For less than 2 dollars you get 1000 chips. Complete details are posted below.

The big game on Dark Forest is very much the same as the old PokerClub game. If you can afford a $17 buy-in you are a high roller on Dark Forest

1 . The main game has a .01 to .02 xmr buy-in (1000 to 2000 chips) and 10 and 20 chip blinds

2. The high roller game has a 0.1 to 0.2 xmr buy in (10000 to 20000 chips) and 100 and 200 chip blinds

3 There is also a free table if you just want to try it out

This is a great day for Dark Net poker. Please register under your Dread user name so we will know that people are not using multiple accounts to scam the game. Thank you

Dark Forest URL - http://dkforestseeaaq2dqz2uflmlsybvnq2irzn4ygyvu53oazyorednviid.onion


So I'm thinking we finally resurrect the XMR General Poker Night. How many of you pokerchads would be intredasted?

[Anonymous No.57072217]

>>57072176
I was a pro poker player, so yes, always interested in a clean table, but am so out of date re onion and what nows. Can you hand hold me on how to get connected, fren? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.57072268]

>monero
But I already have a lot of stablecoins, I don't need another one

[Anonymous No.57072282]

>>57068762
When will it be our turn, bros? It'd be one thing if there wasn't an endless sea of shit scams mooning, but we're literally being left in the dust by dog tokens.

[Anonymous No.57072305]

>>57070759
>>57071452
Agnostic master race checking in. Youre both dumb.

[Anonymous No.57072321]

>>57072305
Atheism is the real thing

[Anonymous No.57072588]

>>57072176
how would i tax all my winnings though

[Anonymous No.57072615]

>>57070759
Application of a Christian mindset to Paganism is why pagans are so cringe

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.57072673]

Reporting in
##################################
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

[Anonymous No.57072921]

>>57072176
Too bad this pokeroom is an absolute ghosttown

[Anonymous No.57073099]

Why are we mooning?

[Anonymous No.57073370]

>>57072217
>but am so out of date re onion and what nows. Can you hand hold me on how to get connected, fren? Thanks.

>REQUIREMENTS
You will obviously need to download and install the Tor Browser to access the darknet.

https://www.torproject.org/download/

You will also need an unknown amount of XMR to play. Don't stake more than you can afford to lose.

Optionally, you can voice chat and coordinate over Jitsi for a more authentic social experience. Jitsi is FOSS and end-to-end encrypted.

https://meet.jit.si/
https://desktop.jitsi.org/Main/Download.html

--------------------

We can use this week to spread the word and then kick off next Saturday. So spread the word far and wide, this kind of thing can be a major draw for normies, be sure to emphasize how *everything* is anonymized so there's no risk of IRS glowies hounding them for taxes.

[Anonymous No.57073387]

>>57072588
>how would i tax all my winnings though

Just make a donation to the IRS, bro.

[Anonymous No.57073401]

>>57073370
Thanks fren! I will get setup and find you lads.

[Anonymous No.57073422]

>>57072921
>Too bad this pokeroom is an absolute ghosttown

Uh, it literally just launched, hardly anybody knows it exists yet. Spread the word, support Monerocentric services.

[Anonymous No.57074250]

[Anonymous No.57074733]

why hasn't feather wallet been updated in flathub for a long time?

[Anonymous No.57074746]

>>57074733
just use appimage launcher

[Anonymous No.57074832]

>>57074746

[Anonymous No.57075337]

>>57072615
Paganism is serious business.

[Anonymous No.57076226]

[Anonymous No.57076941]

Need more extremely comfy Christmasnerochans.

[Anonymous No.57077586]

How much is he holding? At least 10000 I bet?

[LebAnon No.57077743]

Merry Christmas brothers

[LebAnon No.57077778]

>>57077743
If anyone is feeling Christmasy I'm unironically giving this my all
https://tallycoin.app/@lebanonanon/opening-a-street-kebab-kiosk-2UAFa1w5/

[Anonymous No.57078067]

>>57072268
>technical analysis
Yeah

[Anonymous No.57078139]

Prove there isn't an inflation bug. You cant.

[Anonymous No.57078177]

Is there any good non kyc markets that not only sell monero but other coins as well

[Anonymous No.57078498]

>>57078139
https://www.moneroinflation.com/

[Anonymous No.57078695]

Monero Chan mixtral AI erp character card wen

[Anonymous No.57078771]

>>57078139
can't prove the non existence of something. basic principle

[Anonymous No.57079286]

>>57077586
I'd say at least 100k xmr. He was probably the one that sent the xmr to the general fund to cover for the lose.

[Anonymous No.57079421]

MONEROMARKET.IO

Join the Monero Economy

[Anonymous No.57079565]

>>57079421
I'm buying some more shit there after Christmas.

[Anonymous No.57079606]

whats up guys, looks like my rate is over 12kh/s on 3900x making less than one american fiat paper dollar a day. Moneroocean pool holding it down, much love. Tons of downtime in 2023 for life things and it appears gpu mining is now killed? I just monero max and only pay attention to the broadest strokes crypto """currency""" market news. FMK: Bitcoin, Monero, XRP

[Anonymous No.57080359]

>>57078139
>Prove there isn't an inflation bug.

Exchanges keep running out of XMR. An exploited bug would result in excess coins.

[Anonymous No.57080913]

MERRY CHRISTMAS, /XMR/ GENERAL!!!
˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶

[Anonymous No.57080936]

>>57076941

[Anonymous No.57081129]

Lets say we tried to build a monerochan sex robot, how it would be, should we just buy another sex robot and just put monerochans face

[Anonymous No.57081182]

>>57078139
It's mathematically proven with cryptography. I think every time you sync your node monerod verifies it too.

[Anonymous No.57082083]

>>57079606
Are you a /k/ fag by chance anon?

[Anonymous No.57082247]

>>57078139
Mathematical proof: Elliptic Curves have the distributive property, meaning aG + bG = (a + b)G. Commitments defined in terms of curve points will preserve the underlying values. Thus the sum of the input commitments and the sum of the output commitments being equal proves the underlying amounts being equal.
Economical proof: The existence of a bug permitting to print an unlimited amount of coins would be exploited to the fullest extent by being exploited the fastest and would undoubtedly result in the immediate draining of all/most exchanges that offer Monero trading. Proposing fantasies such as an inflation bug being kept secret is a pipedream as CEXes holding paper Monero explains the phenomena of depressed price action better, and they simply make no logical sense to execute.
Authority based proof: Both bulletproofs(++) and ringCT itself underwent dozens of accredited major and minor audits throughout the years funded from the general fund that did not reveal the presence of any fault in the mathematics or in the codebase implementation.
Philosophical proof: It's a Russel's teapot situation. The burden of proof for the existence of something is on the person proposing that in the first place. IE (You). And not us.
Is that enough?

[Anonymous No.57082600]

>>57080913
>>57080936
she's not a whore!

[Anonymous No.57083591]

[Anonymous No.57084096]

>>57082083
Indeed. Happy yuletide, anon.

[veil project No.57084341]

>>57073099
>why are we mooning
privacy coins and platforms will soon moon perpetually and people are starting to figure it out

[Anonymous No.57084629]

anyone know who the OG artist of monero-chan is and where i can find their work?

[Anonymous No.57084658]

>>57084629
Satushy Coomamoto

[Anonymous No.57084668]

>>57082600
based moderate monerochan enjoyer
>>57084096
based

[Anonymous No.57084712]

>>57084658
>Satushy Coomamoto
no results

[Anonymous No.57084715]

>>57084629
>>57084712

Found it, it's Crypto_G on twitter.

Pic related is the original Monero-chan, the earliest post being from September 2017
https://archived.moe/biz/thread/3438354/#3438354

The source of her (and other fcrypto waifus posted in that thread being https://crypto-currency-girls.com

In particular, she was posted here:
https://crypto-currency-girls.com/monero/
https://crypto-currency-girls.com/monero/amp/

[Anonymous No.57084756]

>>57084712
Also are you the guy (girl) from /ic/? Why is it you want to know?

[Anonymous No.57084795]

>>57084715

>A secretary to the president of a certain company. Never let go of your two smartphones.
>She is doted on by the president because she can do her job anyway.
>She is stubborn, so no matter what you say to her, she won't budge.
>She is always calm and collected. She is a cool, beautiful girl with a poker face and a quiet personality.
>There are many men and women who admire her.

[Anonymous No.57084818]

>>57084756
no im not im just trying to grow my collection of her

>captcha: XMRAR8

[Anonymous No.57084831]

>>57084818
I found a mega someone had compiled with many sorted monerochan's but it seems to be mostly empty now.

[Anonymous No.57084834]

>>57068762
Happy holidays /XMR/

[Anonymous No.57084844]

>>57084831
>>57084818
I have a copy of the mega on one of my drives, around here somewhere.

[Anonymous No.57084882]

I want to know who the artist for the monerochans I posted is (the ones with the white heart shaped ear rings that sometimes have the xmr logo on them) there the best monerochan artist imo

>>57084831
I'm pretty sure I know which one youre talking about, I looked in past /xmr/ gen threads in efforts to grow my collection

>>57084844
if youre able to find it pls post

[Anonymous No.57084908]

>>57084882
I believe I found it on the xmr lemmy. IIRC its posted/made by the monerobull guy that makes the plushies/stickers so you can ask next time he is here. Here it is, quite barren now sadly https://mega.nz/folder/JSYUlZrY#CxTF5PTJKcWIPt7qzduHzQ
>>57084844
Checked and hope you find it.

[Anonymous No.57084974]

im just gonna ask in the monerochan art matrix, it seems the ones i posted are commissioned from various artists on sketchmob and skeb

i also found a few i didnt have from searching the tripcode on the site so ill be saving those now

[Anonymous No.57085298]

>>57084831
>>57084908
mega account owner here
MEGA deleted the data in my account due to inactivity.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Anonymous No.57085465]

>>57085298
You have a local backup right anon?

[Anonymous No.57085583]

>>57085465
of course.

[Anonyɱous No.57085603]

>>57084882
>>57084908
>>57085298
I got this stored. mirrored it this summer.
https://mega.nz/folder/DFVzzZrQ#2b0Vy0Y2murSgSYxTfM_zQ

[Anonymous No.57085704]

>>57084818
there you go...
>>57085603

[Anonymous No.57086454]

>>57070632
>premined scam bullshit coin.

>>57082247
>The burden of proof for the existence of something is on the person proposing that in the first place.

One can simply use the chaininfo cmd in cli and see all the irrevocably set in stone parameters that Pirate chain was launched with, and operates upon, to see that calling ARRR a premine is an absolute fabrication.

Demonstrably spreading lies about other privacy projects and devs on record, repeatedly, really doesn't inspire much faith from any other devs in the space. If you give a shit about privacy, you should be pursuing atomic swaps. Even Fluffypony has said as much. Yet this community seems to relish in burning as many bridges as possible with anyone, attempting to advance the goal of privacy in crypto, that doesn't fall under the xmr umbrella. It's a disservice to those in the Monero cummunity and to everyone else in the privacy coin movement. You should honestly kys OP. Merry Christmas

[Anonymous No.57086486]

>>57085603
>https://mega.nz/folder/DFVzzZrQ#2b0Vy0Y2murSgSYxTfM_zQ
post this as an I2P torrent. upload it to postman2 tracker.

[LebAnon No.57087214]

>>57078139
Sound money
Safe mode

https://tallycoin.app/@lebanonanon/opening-a-street-kebab-kiosk-2UAFa1w5/

If anyone is feeling charitable I'd unironically appreciate it

[Anonymous No.57088702]

[Anonymous No.57089928]

[Anonymous No.57090994]

Mon-erry Christmas!

[Anonymous No.57091472]

Being a monerochad on /biz/ is so funny, like the backroom of a house party. Merry yuletide and Aaj blesssings upon you all.
#s=xmr

[Anonymous No.57092905]

Letting this thread die, WITH NO BUMPS.

[Anonymous No.57092924]

B

[Anonymous No.57093424]

Using my profits to buy Mònérós
Holding up quite well with Bitcoin dumping.
ETF is a nothingburger. They're going to be cash settled and have either minimal or negative impact.

[Anonymous No.57093867]

Discussions with family members at Christmas have given me an idea for a darknet business that would be perfect for Monero. I'll start tinkering when I get home.

[Anonymous No.57093875]

>>57092905

Based Thread Savior

[Anonymous No.57094197]

>>57070260
until something happens

[Anonymous No.57094973]

>>57093867
>Discussions with family members at Christmas have given me an idea for a darknet business that would be perfect for Monero. I'll start tinkering when I get home.

Based and agoristpilled, we need more darknet entrepreneurs. You can use FairTrade as an escrow service btw.

[Anonymous No.57095619]

do you guys hold xmr or do you swap into it when you need it?
btc fees are pretty high, and i don't know what else would be a safe bet to keep value

[Anonymous No.57095716]

>>57095619
>do you guys hold xmr or do you swap into it when you need it?
Both. Keep an emergency stash of XMR and also swap into it when you need to actually spend BTC.

[Anonymous No.57095728]

>>57095619
BTC is for saving. XMR is for spending. You have to decide yourself how much XMR you want to keep for spending whenever you need to. A quick suggestion would be to buy XMR as long as BTC fees are high. When BTC fees are low again, swap slow and steady a part of your XMR stack into BTC.

[Anonymous No.57095894]

>>57095728
>BTC is for saving. XMR is for spending.

This. Never spending your BTC is the chad move. $100K end of year.

Monero should be held as as little and spent as much as possible, it's a terrible investment.

[Anonymous No.57096186]

>>57095728
Why save in BTC if it's terrible for spending? Where is the value proposition at all? Speculation? That might go well for a while, but it's the ultimate example of what goes in, must go out.
And if people use XMR, why is it terrible for saving? The slogan is fine on the surface, but completely lacks logic if you try prying its meaning apart. Does being good money means being valued less? Do assets capable to holding savings develop from otherwise bad assets, because yes?

[Anonymous No.57096259]

If your "currency" isn't for transactions and is only works as a (speculative) "store of value", then it isn't a currency at all.
Bitcoin has become a bigger meme token than dogecoin.

[Anonymous No.57096369]

>>57093867
like what? you can't just write cryptic bullshit without anything substantial

[Anonymous No.57096419]

>>57096186
>Why save in BTC if it's terrible for spending?
>And if people use XMR, why is it terrible for saving?

Because BTC is a platoon of android hornets protecting the valkyrie of innovation, feeding on the greatest achievements of community, using proof of work to the moon in a quantum tunnel of digital gold while Monero is literal pedo coin with zero hornets of ANY variety.

$100K end of year.

[Anonymous No.57096452]

>>57096419
Bitcoin literally can't go to the moon because of lightspeed delays.

[Anonymous No.57097561]

>>57096452

I wouldn't worry about it, Bitcoin is a vortex of lightning ants pledging allegiance to the elders of wisdom, forged from the sheer essence of energy, energetically speeding to the moon in a vortex of thermodynamically sound money.

[Anonymous No.57098285]

>>57096186
Spending and saving don't necessarily go together. Think if most civilizations, gold was usually what everyone saved in, but they'd usually spend silver, copper, or paper for daily use. For the unit of saving of "store of value" you just want whatever's the most popular, widely accessible, and has the lowest supply inflation.
As for speculation, that applies to most every kind of money. Rai stones, seashells, gold, glass beads. It could be argued that money is always a bubble.
https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/archive/john_law_safehaven

[Anonymous No.57098316]

>>57098285
*think "of" most
*saving "or" store

[veil project No.57098353]

>>57096419
>$100k
so you’re saying we’re all gonna make it?

[Anonymous No.57098430]

>>57098353
>so you’re saying we’re all gonna make it?

No, only Bitcoin HODLers will make it because they're smart enough to never spend their coins.

[veil project No.57098651]

>>57098430
btc 500k+ tx a day
xmr 24k+ tx a day

so you’re saying we’re all gonna make it

[Anonymous No.57099645]

>>57098651

Only because Bitcoin is a battalion of cyborg rhinos liberating the ambassadors of smartness, forged from the background radiation of mankind, assembling even heavier in a palace of true ownership.

[Anonymous No.57099731]

I received an unknown amount of XMR today. My first payment. Feels based.

[Anonymous No.57100832]

[Anonymous No.57101686]

[Anonymous No.57102328]

>>57099731
Welcome to the federal database anon!

[Anonymous No.57103135]

[Anonymous No.57104313]

Hi I'm an XMR noob
is Monero its own chain?
can I hide the code of a smart contract in its privacy system?

[Anonymous No.57104332]

>>57104313
Yes
No

[Anonymous No.57106120]

>>57104313

Ja.

[Anonymous No.57106797]

Hello Monerochads - I've used and support Monero for the purposes it has now, but I'm wondering, if it gained extremely wide appeal, would it require an absurd amount of power like Bitcoin does?

[Anonymous No.57107256]

4chan isn't the best for technical questions but anyone using a trezor model T wallet and the gui and get a code 99 error message where the tresor won't sign transactions and let you send coins. My big ish unknown amount is stuck in it's wallet forever if I don't figure something out. A big loss.
Some github page on it had some guy manage to get transactions through but he was using Linux. If it's a trezor software issue I'm at their mercy completely. tia.

[Anonymous No.57107607]

>>57106797
Monero is much more usage-scalable because merchants will want to run a full node anyway so all they have to do is throw a CPU or two at mining to secure their investment.

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.57107972]

>>57106797
yes mostly, but this power waste is mitigated by the attempt to be mineable on commodity hardware rather than also producing tons of ASIC ewaste.

[Anonymous No.57108226]

>XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4
Anymore videos like this?

[Anonymous No.57108588]

>>57080359
is this a sign to withdraw asap?
I kinda wanted to stack a little more before spending some cucked withdrawal fee.
kucoin btw

[Anonymous No.57108631]

What happens to nation state military weapons in a monero future? What happens to nuclear weapons and global data centers in a decentralized economy?

[Anonymous No.57109090]

>>57108588
>is this a sign to withdraw asap?
Yes.
>I kinda wanted to stack a little more before spending some cucked withdrawal fee.
>kucoin btw
XeggeX doesn't have this problem.

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.57109403]

WITHDRAW ALL MONERO FROM EXCHANGES NOW.

[Anonymous No.57110565]

[Anonymous No.57110598]

>>57109403
you mean like now right now?
why fren?
your funds are safu

[Anonymous No.57111173]

>>57107256
Dont use those crappy premade hardware wallets, just make your own from an old laptop or any device that doesnt have network capabilities. I hope you have your seed written down somewhere, good luck.

[Anonymous No.57111854]

>>57108631
this kind of posts make me want to sell my entire stack and never open a computer ever again

[Anonymous No.57112042]

>>57071452
based and PRAISE THE LORD JESUS; every knee shall bow every tongue shall confess

[Anonymous No.57113295]

Licking monerochans tummy

[Anonymous No.57114741]

Do Atomic Swaps use ordinals?

[Anonymous No.57114823]

>>57114741
What do you mean by use ordinals?

[Anonymous No.57115019]

>>57104332
why can't I make a coin on this chain?

[Anonymous No.57115031]

>>57114823
Is the transaction on the BTC side of an Atomic Swap normal or does it use the ordinal ‚feature‘? Just answer with yes or no, please.

[Anonymous No.57115095]

Will Monero get delisted from Binance in January?

[Anonymous No.57115189]

>>57115019
That‘s because the Monero devs take care that the network won‘t be clogged with your fucking bullshit token. The smartcontract gimmick leads to absurdly high transaction fees. The XMR community wants Monero to be usable as peer-to-peer electronic cash, a principle that has been abandoned by BTC maximalists a long time ago.

>>57115095
shut up

[Anonymous No.57115344]

Say I want to destroy the modern system of academia, how could Monero help me in my war?

[Anonymous No.57115921]

sex with xmr-chan

[Anonymous No.57115932]

>>57115189
cool thanks. what I'm looking to do is to store sensitive information that can be accessed once a contract gets the input it needs. therefore i need to hide the code of the smart contract. I will most likely use Town Crier but I'm looking for another way to do this. If anyone happens to know that would be nice

[Anonymous No.57116294]

>>57115932
Get an escrow service. Anything else that's dependent on trade volume/price sounds like NGU moonfaggotry to me

[Anonymous No.57116331]

Poompa when?

[Anonymous No.57116336]

>>57111173
Was using monero gui. The download link when you open the wallet for update doesn't work. Had to download from get monero.org and then it ran the update with that installer.
When wallet was updated and resynced I had no issues.

[veil project No.57116360]

>>57115932
Verus and Secret both have that sort functionality (both are privacy projects and can obfuscate contract code I believe)

[Anonymous No.57116381]

>>57115344
Offer grad students xmr to produce papers under pseudonyms against the dying jewish narratives. They make money doing what they like, and the beast dies quicker. I've been seeing some rumblings about "decentralized science" lately, maybe this will be the push it needs.

Wait, better idea! Have some nerd develop an LLM that just spits out research papers and can create graphs with a concise enough prompt. Then open source it!

[Anonymous No.57116408]

>>57115921
yes

[Anonymous No.57117118]

[Anonymous No.57117700]

>>57114741
>>57115031
You...you keep using that word but I don't think you know what it means. But to answer your question, no, the BTC side of a BTC/XMR Atomic Swap does not "use ordinals". Sending BTC to the Swap address is a regular on-chain transaction.

If you're asking if whether or not that means doing an Atomic Swap incurs a lower Bitcoin network fee because it is a "normal" transaction, then no it does not incur a lower fee. All Bitcoin transactions regardless of what they're for or how they're done have the same high network fees BECAUSE /others/ are "doing ordinals".

[Anonymous No.57117757]

>>57115095
Yes, but this doesn't really affect anything. ONLY CEX you should be getting XMR from is Kraken. And in case you can't use Kraken to get XMR you should be getting it via P2P methods or swapping/trading other coins for it.

[Anonymous No.57117794]

NOW that's some good shit. xmr is on my watchlist since 2 years ago i guess.

even just being a swing trader, i really trust xmr and cared to read and research it fundamentals. this coin gonna be the only widely used coin, along btc of course, in the future. i guess a decade.

the privacy, the non fungibility, the safety. love all of it.

[Anonymous No.57117988]

>>57115932
Are you planning on hiding the actual information within the smart contract or just a decryption key/instruction set to access said information. If the latter, why exactly does the contract need to be hidden? What good would knowing that your contract exists and decrypts/reveals something when certain parameters are met if no one knows what those parameters are nor what that thing being revealed is? If the former, you should unironically look into Filecoin.

[Anonymous No.57118043]

>>57100832
This is so unbelievably BASED holy shit.

[Anonymous No.57118830]

[Anonymous No.57118834]

>>57117700
Do you have a stroke or do you always put up this unwarranted facade of snobbishness, retard?

[Anonymous No.57119960]

>>57116408

[Anonymous No.57120001]

thought i'd check in on your fags. glad that /xmr/ is not only still around, but kicking. 4 years and i'm still HODLing. maybe i should get some more.
keep up the good fight, lads.

[Anonymous No.57120836]

>Stack xmr for years
>See literal retards get rich from animal coins
>Get salty
>Finally give in and decide to play the shitcoin casino
>Dump some of my XMR into shitcoins 2/3 weeks ago
So far I'm down ~60%.
How the fuck do people make money on this shit? Is it really just 100% pure luck or is there something more to this? lol

[Anonymous No.57121040]

>>57115344
>>57093867
is Monero-chan 3d printing guns?

[Anonymous No.57121350]

>>57104313
Sir, the token is not bloody needed. Well known!

[Anonymous No.57121358]

>>57109403
>monero
>exchanges
You are saying strangest things, my curry friend.

[Anonymous No.57121491]

>>57120836
>How the fuck do people make money on this shit?
Either being lucky or being a scammer. Be careful not to fall for survivorship bias, winners are boisterous and the losers are embarrassed and avoid telling people how they lost money.

[Anonymous No.57121643]

It's over for XMR isn't it?

[Anonymous No.57121854]

>>57121643
nah. true xmr enjoyers dont use CEXs at all. business as usual.

[Anonymous No.57122059]

What ? binance delisting xmr?

[Anonymous No.57122206]

Fuck CEXes. Monero is for the streets!

[Anonymous No.57122232]

>>57121491
This. Monero is my only forever hold and I still use it to buy things.

[Anonymous No.57122248]

>I support privacy!
>But... le... exchange can be centralised?!? Because it just can!!

Isn't this peak NPC behaviour?

[Anonymous No.57122892]

CEX delistings might drop xmr below 0.003. It's over.

[Anonymous No.57122921]

>>57117700
Why not just atomic swap with Litecoin instead?
I mean if a "premined scam" coded by a "known scammer" can do it then why can't Monero?

[Anonymous No.57123054]

>>57122921
LTC and ETH atomic swaps with XMR are in the pipeline, but BTC was done first.

[Anonymous No.57123156]

How many threads should I dedicate to mining? Are there diminishing returns on that or is it just a matter of maintaining temps?

[Anonymous No.57123215]

>>57120836
I have read a lot of books so you don't have too, gambling shit into memecoins is retail dumping on retail, xmr has all the cypherpunk fundamentals and as it gets better it will outlast all the other shitty coins but the masses just want get rich schemes and xmr doesn't provide that, we need more goverment tiranny and surveilance for xmr to become more relevant if agenda2030 doesn't go as planned then people will not really have a real need for xmr, the only people that can get rich is if they have a lot of followers so if you want to be rich build an audience

[Anonymous No.57123277]

>>57123215
By your philosophy it would only make sense to by XMR without KYC. One also has to take measures to hide their XMR like encrypt their hard drives, having more than one wallet, using certain techniques to memorise seed phrases, etc. Also plan ahead for the case you‘re ‚getting caught‘ by the authorities. What would be the worst case scenario?

[Anonymous No.57123530]

Any feedback for my little shop? Just need to sort out https and then add more products. If it gets any interest I will do audiobooks also

[Anonymous No.57123763]

>>57123530
>ebooks
Information is free, nigga. I can buy some rare collectable PHYSICAL books. But not this. Audiobooks are free too. Besides, only literal retards use them. And retards usually do not have XMR.

[Anonymous No.57123941]

How long until my $150 buy order gets filled?

[Anonymous No.57124084]

>XMR
hey isn't this stablecoin starting to get delisted on exchanges?

[Anonymous No.57124339]

>>57123530
>DRM free epubs bought with XMR
This is extremely based. You should hit up /pol/ and dissident Twitter offering their authors a platform.

[Anonymous No.57125061]

>>57124339

I would love to do this, I would just need to figure out how to do commission without requiring the authors trust me. I think there are plugins I could use, but I don't think it would work with my current crypto payment gateway

[Anonymous No.57125100]

>>57123530
buying ebooks is gay. https://annas-archive.org

[Anonymous No.57125198]

>>57123941
Unironically 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.57125790]

>>57122892
would be comfy.
but at this point it's so priced in that it would probably just be a short term dump if anything. Monero has been "banned" like a million times. And eventually the normiefags will realize that nothing is actually happening. At this point though normies don't hold XMR so if anything it would be a net positive for the price, unironically.

[Anonymous No.57126063]

when will number go up?

[Anonymous No.57126157]

>>57125790
It would be interesting to see its price action determined by just a few non-kyc exchanges

[Anonymous No.57127333]

>>57126063

Next Thursday.

[Anonymous No.57128267]

>>57126063
Burn in hell, moonfag.

[Anonymous No.57128283]

Which one of you faggots told me this was a stablecoin? Shit is consistently the worst performer in any market. Glad I didnt buy any.

[Anonymous No.57128307]

>>57122892
>Supply going down drives price down

?

[Anonymous No.57128327]

Y'all been shilling this for years...why doesn't never ever blow op

[Anonymous No.57128539]

>>57128283
>>57128327

>>57128267

[Anonymous No.57128615]

>>57128539
Im not asking for it to moon, you faggot. Im asking why your stablecoin isnt stable

[Anonymous No.57128722]

>>57123215
Yeah. I'm aware of XMRs fundamentals and why it will succeed in time. That's why I've been stacking for years. I just got salty after seeing all those retards get rich over the last few bull runs and thought I could get in on the action.
>>57123277
>By your philosophy it would only make sense to by XMR without KYC
Pretty much true if you live in a Western country where the government has access to state of the art surveillance tools etc. Buying non-KYCed XMR on localmonero is easier and less of a hassle than dancing around like a fucking retard infront of your webcam to be (most graciously) allowed to trade on a CEX. Fuck that shit. I've never bought KYCed crypto and I'm not about to start now. The Bitcoin market worked just fine before CEXes ever existed, and the XMR market will work just fine after we're delisted from everything. I still remember buying my first bitcoin back in the early Silk Road days by sending a bank transfer to some random Russian guy I met on a forum. Good times.
>tfw you bought btc more than 10 years ago and spent it all on drugs

[Anonymous No.57129001]

>>57122892
>CEXs would drop the #32 market cap cryptocurrency, that they also use for price-suppression, because it falls below an arbitrary satoshi value
Sure

[Anonymous No.57129884]

So comfy.

[Anonymous No.57130313]

Had no problem pulling freshly bought Monero from chinance earlier today.

[Anonymous No.57130952]

>>57123530
I miss the old monero bookstore with PHYSICAL books, why would someone smart enough to use monero buy ebooks? what?

[Anonymous No.57131944]

>>57129884

[Anonymous No.57132445]

[Anonymous No.57132734]

why the fuck does Proton mail not accept Monero? I want to take advantage of there end of year sale and to pay $30 in BTC costs a $10 transaction fee. fucking gay.

[Anonymous No.57132830]

>>57131944
It’s simple

[Anonymous No.57133141]

>>57132734
That's really stupid on their part. If they would at least offer payment via Lighting you could try to find an exchange where you can buy BTC with XMR and having the BTC sent to a Lightning address right away.

[Anonymous No.57133232]

>>57123530
beautiful illustration! but anyone smart enough to use monero also knows its better to get ebooks at libgen or z-library

[Anonymous No.57133599]

>>57117988
The contract needs to be hidden because it is storing passwords. With filecoin: How would i know if SP's look at the info they are storing?

[Anonymous No.57135058]

>>57115095
Who cares.
Volume will move to other exchanges, hopefully a TraeOgre season could start soon..

[Anonymous No.57135111]

>>57072321
>Atheism is the real thing
Real just means limited.
Check out gnosticism (Plato) and its implications for ether (virtual particles), the universe (the black stuff) is full of complex geometry, its qualifies for the definition of God.
On the other side, matter, which is juts energy, which is entropy is the enemy of information and the devil. Shapes within the ether are near unlimited, unlike shapes in the material world. So the master of the material real has a kind of penis envy against the greater deity. and hates us because we are made by the same demiurgic principle like the ether.
The central bankers are juts foolish traitors, trading their spirit for energy

[Anonymous No.57135662]

Any Ukmongs here?

I usually buy bitcoin of Kraken and convert it but now I'm getting this warning on Kraken about new regulations, should I be concerned?

[Anonymous No.57135955]

wen moon?
no, i'm not leaving

[Anonymous No.57136023]

What’s the best way to get my monero off a CEX and into cold storage?

[Anonymous No.57136045]

>>57136023
Download the official Monero GUI wallet, configure it to connect to your Trezor, transfer the XMR from your CEX into the address you just set up. Monero is an extremely easy crypto to transact with.

[Anonymous No.57137283]

>>57136045

Featherwallet is more noob-friendly.

[Anonymous No.57138411]

[Anonymous No.57138735]

>>57135955
My forecast/analysis: At some point, be it tomorrow or 20 years from now, the BTC bagholders will be forced to confront reality. Their shitcoin is a literal NFT and is not, and never will be, money. The keyword here being "forced". They will not come to this realization of their own volition because BTC is a literal religion/cult movement at this point. The realization will set in when (and only when) a substantial portion of the bagholders attempt to actually USE their NFT and fail to do so because of blockchain surveillance. Their transactions are rejected, their wallets are blacklisted, or the fees are simply prohibitively high. We're seeing the early stages of this now with the whole ordinals shitshow. How it develops from here is easy to predict: It gets worse. How fast this progression occurs is anyone's guess, but the end point is inevitable as far as I can tell:
>Bitcoin fails
>People ask why
>They realize BTC lacks fungibility
>The ask if ANY crypto has fungibility
>monerosaymyname.jpg
>The FOMO to end all FOMO ensues and XMR goes parabolic

Wen moon? Who knows. But moon we will. In time.

[Anonymous No.57138796]

can i use pajeet engineering to power up a mining operation?
supposing i live in a very windy city

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GFY5Ad7kRw

[veil-project No.57138914]

>>57138735
>They ask if ANY crypto has fungibility
ironically fungibility was at the heart of bitcoin ethos. xmr is the real bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.57138931]

>>57138735
Yes.
Not that it matters, just being in monero gives a green light to God to save you.

[Anonymous No.57138973]

>>57138796
>can i use pajeet engineering to power up a mining operation?
The Monerochan community should aim higher.

[Anonymous No.57139016]

>>57138735
>BTC is a literal religion/cult movement at this point

What on earth gave you that idea?

[Anonymous No.57139063]

>>57096186
Bitcoin has more volume, is deflationary and has a stronger network effect, all those making it a better store of value.

>>57096259
It's not a very good currency because of fees and lack of privacy but it's still a currency, ie you can use it to buy stuff.
Right now it's even arguably better than monero as a currency because more places accept bitcoin compared to monero.
But monero is a better tech and a better currency is the pure sense.
But better tech isn't necessarily enough to beat network effect and first mover advantage

[Anonymous No.57139098]

>>57098353
Dumb meme, you don't need more than 1 XMR to be rich if monero ends up becoming a world currency, and if it doesn't you'll be happy you only had 150 dollars invested into it because it's won't be pumping out of hype.

[Anonymous No.57139191]

>>57139098
why would that make you rich

[Anonymous No.57139278]

>>57139191
If monero become as used as the dollar is today we can expect the marketcap of monero to be equal to the quantity of dollars in circulation today, which would make 1 XMR worth about 5 million dollars in today's money.

[Anonymous No.57140024]

[Anonymous No.57140159]

>>57140024
Who the hell comissions all this art?
These threads are literally 40% coomer pics.

[Anonymous No.57140250]

>>57140159

[Anonymous No.57140257]

>>57140159
Most are AI generated, on stable diffusion it's trivial to create a monerochan model with a few picture, and then use the pictures you generate to make the model even better.

[Anonymous No.57140589]

>>57140159
It's AIslop. Actual artists used to be commissioned fairly frequently, but that died out once a Monerochan model was made.

[Anonymous No.57140878]

>>57139278
why would it become as used as the dollar

[Anonymous No.57140924]

>>57140878
You would need financial institutions for that to happen since finance dwarfs consumer spending by an order of magnitude.

[Anonymous No.57141028]

>>57140878
That's what the meme picture implied, not saying it will happen.

Currencies are at war with eachover and on the long run it is a certainty the a single world currency will win and take over almost all transactions.
Monero have non-zero odds to win this war in my opinion, so does bitcoin, gold, silver, chainlink and sadly, the dollar.

[Anonymous No.57141635]

>>57140589
be the change you want to see

[Anonymous No.57141725]

>>57141635
I already commission plenty on my own. But AI trash outnumbers it 100:1

[Anonymous No.57142045]

>>57120836
You went into memecoins and you didn't buy any Wownero?! Go look at the price 2/3 weeks ago, you would have gotten a quick 2x.

[Anonymous No.57142599]

>>57141028
The irony is that the dollar remains so dominant because all of the US's geopolitical rivals are cartoonishly corrupt and punish people for using XMR or PMs instead of the local kakistocracy's memecoin or dollars, so everyone just uses dollars.

[Anonymous No.57143696]

>>57141725

Quality > quantity

[Anonymous No.57144079]

>>57142599
>The irony is that the dollar remains so dominant because all of the US's geopolitical rivals are cartoonishly corrupt
he doesn't know about the us army and bases everywhere
he doesn't know how the use can just invade any country who doesn't want to use the dollar, i mean to fight terrorism

[Anonymous No.57144191]

>>57140257
>use the pictures you generate to make the model even better
would this actually work?

[Anonymous No.57144195]

Is the water fountain poisoned?

[Anonymous No.57144432]

>>57144191
Of course

[Anonymous No.57145302]

>>57142045
I got a 10x on BonkEarn and a 5x on SIZE. Then everything crashed.

Still holding though, and muh BERN is doing well still. Still up like 5x from initial swap, but everything else has shit the bed. I'm unironically bullish on BERN because of its god tier ponzi scam fundamentals. A % of the transaction fees are distributed to hodlers, the more you hodl the more you get. roflmao.

[Anonymous No.57145322]

>>57140159
Your tax dollars at work anon.

[Anonymous No.57145338]

>>57145302
My primary fail was getting into Fronk at 15m mcap kek.

[Anonymous No.57146248]

After seeing so many new shitcoins pumping lately makes me want to hoard more xmr

[Anonymous No.57146393]

I'ma finna solo mine on my M2 Max.

[Anonymous No.57146716]

New year's trend: Shadowmaxxing
>>453684137

[Anonymous No.57146722]

>>57146716

[Anonymous No.57146768]

In the end times, how will Monero be controlled? Since you couldn't buy or sell without the (((mark))).

[Anonymous No.57147109]

>>57146768
Picrel is a book by a kikess on how to regulate AECs. Bitch even hints at Deep Packet Inspection by the ISPs.
All chapters are available on Anna's Archive.

Another nice research on angles of attack is by another kikess: https://academic.oup.com/cybersecurity/article-pdf/7/1/tyab004/36538229/tyab004.pdf

Funfact, the first bitch is technically a Fürst's daughter and the second one is Jagiellonian nobility.

[Anonymous No.57147316]

>>57068762
XMR lol

[Anonymous No.57147338]

what's the cheapest way of transferring funds from binance to coinbase? like what has the lowest fees.

[Anonymous No.57148093]

>>57146768
Monero can't be controlled, but it can be indirectly "attacked" through suppression. We are already seeing this. In the future, XMR will not be listed on any KYC exchanges. This will extend to any cryptocurrency which doesn't adhere to KYC regulations (e.g. any cryptocurrency without transparent ledgers will be targeted, and yes this includes Bitcoin users who use whirlpool). As things get worse, the idea is to push people to Lightning Network approved channels that are completely regulated and KYC abiding.
Monero can't be made "illegal" to use, but it can be made more difficult to onboard/offboard. Hilariously, this will just make Monero stronger, and actually increase the need for something like Monero. The more Government's strong arm KYC, the more Monero's usecase grows.
>Since you couldn't buy or sell without the (((mark))).
I don't understand what you mean by this. It's trivial to buy Monero without KYC. And by pushing Monero further underground, it will only make the demand for ways to get Monero without KYC greater.
>>57147338
You're in the wrong thread.

[Anonymous No.57148149]

>>57147338
Litecoin is common.

[Anonymous No.57148344]

He is a paid shill, isn't he?

[Anonymous No.57148792]

What prevents an attacker from spamming the blockchain with UTXOs so they can identify which of their selected UTXOs are decoys and make better predictions about how XMR moves?

[Anonymous No.57149166]

>>57148792
the transaction fee

[Anonymous No.57149292]

>>57149166
Sure, but XMR is also kinda famous for having really low fees

[Anonymous No.57149321]

>>57148792

>To put things in perspective, despite the sheer volume of transactions involved an attacker would somehow have to maintain consistent and exclusive control over 65% of ALL outputs to compromise just 1% of arbitrary rings per day. Raising the ringsize from 11 to 20 would up that percentage to 80%.

And ring sigs are getting ditched soon anyway.

[Anonymous No.57149345]

>>57148792
Nothing. It's over

[sage No.57149405]

>>57121491
Be in on the pump and dump scheme.

There literally groups on Telegram and Discord and whatnot that start shitcoins and pay people to shill them and those shills get in early.

They will even use clever price manipulation tactics (with lots of capital) to pump price gradually to give the illusion of organic growth

[Anonymous No.57149409]

I sent my XMR mining profits for 2023 to kiwifarms

[Anonymous No.57149613]

>>57149409
reminder to use the onion

https://kiwifarmsaaf4t2h7gc3dfc5ojhmqruw2nit3uejrpiagrxeuxiyxcyd.onion

[Anonymous No.57149903]

>>57149321
It'll be a long while before full membership proofs are implemented, if they even go that route.

>>57148344
I think he's just a fart-sniffer and that kind of content gets clicks by his audience (laser eyes).

>>57149292
>>57149166
Fees right now are something like $1100/day which is absolutely nothing.

[Anonymous No.57150207]

>>57149903
Fees would go up though once dynamic blocks were to happen or else miners would lose the block reward for allowing blocksize to increase too fast. It would not cost $1000 a day lol. Your math is way off.

[Anonymous No.57150322]

>>57150207
The penalty uses the median of the last 100 blocks, so someone would just have to introduce transactions slowly. And if it were something like the US gov, they could afford 100X current fees if they wanted.

[Anonymous No.57150405]

>>57150207
And I never said it'd cost $1100, just that's what current fees are, which an attacker could probably stay within an order of magnitude of.

[Anonymous No.57150975]

>>57149903
>It'll be a long while before full membership proofs are implemented, if they even go that route.

WTF you talking about? The actual work is pretty much done as per Luke @ MoneroKon 2023, its just a matter of switching to an appropriate elliptic curve and having the code audited. Everybody wants ring sigs gone ASAP.

[Anonymous No.57151971]

>>57150322
It wouldn't be that simple. We are talking about owning well over 95% of the daily outputs to trace the transactions. The cost of slowly increasing the blockchain size would cost likely just as much in that scenario than by blowing up the blockchain immediately. You would have the increase the daily transactions to at least over 200k a day, and maintain that over an extended period of time. Would make more sense to just do it asap.
>And if it were something like the US gov, they could afford 100X current fees if they wanted
It's not that simple. For one, it's questionable as to how something like this could hold up in a court of law or if it would even be reliable, but even if something like this were to happen, it would be noticed and fought against. I'm also of the opinion that the government has no interest in fighting Monero because they can use it as well, but I digress.
>>57084882
Oh I know the lore for this, as I was involved with Monero-chan in the early days. When the XMR generals were first made in early 2020, the artwork mentioned here >57084715 was posted frequently (back in the 2017 bull run, this guys artwork was popular for all of the cryptocurrencies during that bull). Then one day in 2020, an artist anon made the drawings that are linked in >>57084882 and >>57084629 and >>57084795. This second artist, who is anon, would go make artwork like this for free and drop it in the generals over the course of like 6 months. We don't know who he is and have tried reaching out to him but he never responded. But anyways, his artwork's more lewd interpretation became the inspiration for most of the artwork that followed afterwards.
Then at some point the monerochan artfund was made, and then AI came after. There is a matrix group that you can join if you are interested in more.
Because we are in the bear, Monerochan art has been sparse lately. But 2024 is a new year :).

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.57152592]

happy 2024, monerofrens.

[Anonymous No.57152778]

Poor anon... Bitcoin is already 45k and you still holding XMR???
There's no pemp for you in 2024 hahahahahah

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.57153192]

>>57152778
interesting, I didn't even know. I've been too busy playing vidya and lifting.
If you are holding btc then you should take some gains, anon. Would be prudent.
unless you bought higher or something, idk your life.

[Anonymous No.57153208]

>>57152778
>implying I buy Monero to make money
NGMI

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.57155195]

bamp

[Anonymous No.57155827]

Dear Niggers
Is neroswap.com a scam or legit? I'm considering acquiring some WOW.
Thank you

[Anonymous No.57155946]

>>57153208
>Proudly declaring that xmr is not going to make you money.
>Monero is provably not profitable to mine, hold, or speculate on.
What in the fuck are you dipshits doing here? Go back to your faggot fed hugbox on reddit.

[Anonymous No.57155992]

guys some based XMR chad gave me exactly 1 XMR which I’m holding for dear life. unfortunately I’m not too smart so I made a Kraken account and did the KYC Bullshit which pretty much defeats the purpose of XMR kek. what should I do? Also that mega folder with all the memes is pretty cool. Saved for sure.

I now love monero-Chan, she is #1 in my heart

[Anonymous No.57156121]

>>57155992
Depends on the laws in your cunt. Theoretically speaking, you could withdraw to a self-hosted wallet, then send it to another self-hosted wallet. If the glowniggers ever ask you could lie and claim you used the XMR to buy porn or something. If they keep pressing the issue you could then give them access to the first wallet as "proof" that you actually used the XMR as a medium of exchange. In some cunts this would grant you exemption from taxes etc. Obvously it would also be very illegal so you shouldn't do it. Just thinking out loud.

[Anonymous No.57156302]

>>57156121
>Obvously it would also be very illegal so you shouldn't do it. Just thinking out loud.

[Anonymous No.57156424]

Is BTC or other non-XMR crypto even relevant if I'm not after a quick profit, but want to leave something for my family in the mid-long term?

[Anonymous No.57156654]

>>57156424
Doubt it. Literally everything seems like a worthless scam to me except XMR. All non-XMR projects are pumping on the promise of doing magical stuff... In the future! Even projects like Ethereum that have existed for years still cannot actually do anything useful. XMR is internet money and functions as such right now.

[Anonymous No.57156718]

>>57068762
Bros I swapped all remaining BTC into XMR.

I see the following happenings over the next years:

Step 1: Approve BTC ETFs all around the world.
Step 2: 'Advice' Investment funds, Pension funds and your mother to load up on BTC ETFs because anything else is already shit.
Step 3: Rugpull USDT because Pablo is JPM's bumboy
Step 4: Oi Vey! the Bitcoin caused this! (Not the kikes mind you)
Step 5: Role out CBDC (pegged to a fiat haircut of 100:1) because the boomers have to eat and paper fiat will be worthless due to inflation.

Critique moi hypothesis please.

[Anonymous No.57156764]

>>57156718
Far too complicated. Maybe it'll happen, maybe it won't. Predicting the future with this type of fine-grained accuracy is horoscope tier bullshit. The only thing you need to accept to go balls deep in XMR is this:
>Mass surveillance will get worse
>Inflation will get worse
>Censorship will get worse
>People will value financial privacy more in the future than they do presently
That's it. If these very general and obvious predictions come true, XMR will moon.

[Anonymous No.57156784]

Isn't Monero's demise only feasible if a better consensus mechanism is discovered? But even then, couldn't it be integrated/hard forked?

[Anonymous No.57156789]

>>57156764
I am not interested in XMR 'mooning' in the above post per se. I think I take that for granted.
I am interested in the macroeconomic ramifications of BTC being NFT.
I posted the exact same post elsewhere and I got a response
> Tether FUD in 2024, NGMI
So I came to this general, as it appears that XMRG is one of the very few places with level headed anons.
So, critique the theory in >>57156718 please.

[Anonymous No.57157059]

>>57156718
>>Step 1: Approve BTC ETFs all around the world.
>Step 2: 'Advice' Investment funds, Pension funds and your mother to load up on BTC ETFs because anything else is already shit.

BTC ETFs have already been approved in the EU and Canada. Turns out nobody much cares.

https://www.worldcoinindex.com/news/europe-s-first-spot-bitcoin-etf-goes-live-for-trading-in-amsterdam
https://www.thestreet.com/etffocus/market-intelligence/bitcoin-etf-approved-canada

And here is some more sobering reading on the ETF thing:

>Even if the SEC is pressured to let through a bitcoin ETF, we still don’t think that just having a spot bitcoin ETF exist in the US is going to magic up fresh demand.

>Bitcoin ETFs already exist outside the US — and they noticeably haven’t unleashed any pent-up demand for bitcoins. (Though the Purpose Bitcoin ETF in Toronto seems to be what sent GBTC underwater.) US dollars are somewhat special, but we don’t think they’re that special.

>Investment firm Needham surveyed registered investment advisors and found that retail investor interest in crypto just wasn’t there — as Coinbase has already told us.

https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2023/12/22/bitcoin-etfs-coming-soon-but-in-cash-only/

TL;DR: the whole thing is waaaaaaaaaaaaay overhyped and will prove to be an epic nothingburger.

[Anonymous No.57158115]

So how high will grandpa shitcoin pump before it crashes down again?

[Anonymous No.57159024]

>>57158115
>So how high will grandpa shitcoin pump before it crashes down again?

Considering that the ETF hype is already priced in.....not much lol

[Anonymous No.57159252]

>>57157059
>>Investment firm Sneedham

[Anonymous No.57159310]

>>57068762
XMR is the only based coin on the market. Annoying to see that it isn't properly given a chance.

[Anonymous No.57159321]

>>57155992
Are you the based argentina guy?

[Anonymous No.57159851]

xmrbros i just used trocador with ltc for the first time and it worked great, but i was testing with a small amount. when trying a 2nd time it says the chosen exchange cannot process right now - is there a limit to once a day or something? please no bully
>t.brainlet

[Anonymous No.57159926]

>>57147109
Thanks anon.
Put her on "my list"

[Anonymous No.57160069]

Over the years I've been somewhat of a crypto "observer", I've never gone all in or tried to find the best scams in the whole scammy industry to make short term money and get out, but I've always thought Monero is perhaps one of the few that is has a legitimate use in and of itself
>Privacy/anonymity focused, so people have a reasons to use it, be it darkweb or otherwise.
>ASIC resistant, changing mining algo so it isn't about who hasthousands of dollars of expensive mining hardware
>No "supernode" system that you have to buy 5 figures of server hardware in order to get a passive reward for maintaining the network
>No scammy tokenomics derivatives, Web3 bullshit or DeFi nonsense, absolutely no fucking NFT garbage etc

Monero is perhaps one of the only crypto that can be called respectable and isnt predicated on getting a bunch of other people to run their scams on your platform to prop it up. It exists because people want anonymity and privacy for their transactions, for better or worse. In a way, its likely that this is also a limitation. It will never be the darling of big money investors pushing the next big scam, or KYC required marketplaces and exchanges, but in return it will have a use for long time - so far, anyone who's tried to do the same thing or something better has failed in one of the ways I mentioned above and/or was an abject scam/fraud. Monero may never be the new hot thing to make money simply by holding andwaiting for the line to go up, butif they make smart decisions it will always be valuable by being perhaps the closest thing to the original ideal of a cryptocurrency as opposed to yet another casino chip.

[Anonymous No.57160472]

>>57159926
Is there a decentralised version of a good "list" of such people?

[Anonymous No.57160885]

>>57108631
It all depends if we run out of fuels first and climate change ruins a large % of crops, any organism grows as big as its energy requirements allow it and the decentralized economy that we would want would require first a lof of this structures dissapearing

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.57162165]

>>57160069
>It will never be the darling of big money investors pushing the next big scam, or KYC required marketplaces and exchanges
good, everything wall street touches turns into dumpster sludge.

[Anonymous No.57162236]

>35
oof

[Anonymous No.57162354]

>>57162165
I'm okay with this as well. Just as long as those in charge don't decide they have to "keep up" with other big name flavor of the month crypto and build in NFT/web3/DeFi/dapps and other garbage upon it. Let it be a privacy focused cryptoCURRENCY that is relatively stable in value and has very low fees for transfer.

[Anonymous No.57163758]

>>57162165
>everything wall street touches turns into dumpster sludge.

B-b-but muh institutional investorz!

[Anonymous No.57163879]

What's the roadmap for XMR this year?

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.57164735]

>>57163879
q1-???
q2-???
q3-???
q4-???

jam-packed.

[Anonymous No.57164923]

[veil-project No.57165174]

>>57163879
>>57164735
would’ve been easier to just look at getmonero but then how could you fud

[Anonymous No.57165177]

Yearly volume on ShopinBit came 46% Bitcoin, 41% Monero. This isn't a Monero business either, like CoinCards it was a Bitcoin-centric business that just got flooded by people who prefer Monero organically.

It's genuinely bizarre how Monerochan can be so strong but her price action so weak.

[Anonymous No.57166429]

I must say Monerod is the buggiest piece of software I've seen. Shit constantly keeps crashing every few minutes and starts from 0 unless I use --db-sync-mode-safe=1 and if I do it for some reason doesn't want to expose 18081

Probably has something to do with me running Docker, but they should make sure it works well with something that's used as widely as Docker. I run like 30 applications on my cluster and this is the only one which keeps crashing

[Anonymous No.57166442]

>check in on the subr*ddit
>see thread about CCS being open for donations again and 6 new proposals
>"oh boy i wonder whats on the table now"
>go to CCS Funding Required page, it's completely empty which i've never seen before
>go back, click on a link to one of the proposals included in the thread
>the proposal page says its in Work in Progress
>go to Work in Progress page, it's not listed there at all
>seemingly none of the other new proposals are either
No wonder the price action is so shit. Whoever it was that single-handedly funded the 314 XMR full-chain membership proofs proposal is a chad though

[Anonymous No.57166446]

>>57165174
You're right, I'm retarded. Looks promising

[Anonymous No.57166518]

>>57165177
Binance has been caught strategically halting XMR withdrawals to keep the price down, and since Binance has most of the trading volume, it's hard to overcome.

[Anonymous No.57166532]

>>57166429
monerod works fine in docker, you've got something else running on that port and probably have your volumes set up wrong or have an underlying hardware fault

[Anonymous No.57166670]

>>57166532
Does anything stand out? I think it's much better with --db-sync-mode=safe. Wondering if it could be a docker swarm bug

[Anonymous No.57166693]

>>57166532
>probably have your volumes set up wrong or have an underlying hardware fault
I tried with local volume and glusterfs volume. Has issues with both

Hardware is fine. Metrics/logs look fine. I've tried pinning to different hosts on my cluster. Every other application works perfectly fine, just monerod doesn't want to

[Anonymous No.57166959]

https://moneromarket.io/listing/29f6d615-6b05-4538-b715-f79a6f5ca44c

this looks good. if I wasn't a poor id buy some anon. I need to hold my monero

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.57166999]

>>57166518
i cannot wait for that chink to go bankrupt

[Anonymous No.57167500]

>>57166670
You're missing a 18081 mapping in ports:.

>>57166693
Can you sync the blockchain or does it fall behind? If you can sync then I think it's just the container not exiting gracefully and leaving the LMDB file in a bad state.

[Anonymous No.57167532]

>>57167500
I'm accessing it over an overlay network so don't need to map 18081. The other service trying to access it is on the same overlay network. I tried exposing it as well to check, but isn't working. It works without --db-sync-mode=safe. Think I should open a bug report

>>57167500
Yea it randomly exits(I think it gets SIGTERM from Docker for whatever reason) and LMDB is in bad state. Having said that it's funny synced up again and seems to be OK now. That was with --db-sync-mode=safe tho, it doesn't sync fully without that flag at all

[Anonymous No.57167700]

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[Anonymous No.57168295]

>>57167532
That's probably forcing more frequent fsyncs through to disk and might be because you're on glusterfs.