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Legends of the Fall edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiOs3-llXq5CGQPNHf_3-nYZ4d_w7OP52

>Financial TV Streams:
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/

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>> No.56465871
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200 daily moving average leveraged rotation GAYed Chads it would appear that both SOXX and SPY will close under the 200 daily moving average in tandem today. This is an omen. Are you selling your UPRO and SOXL positions on the open tomorrow? Do you remember your training? Do you have the discipline to be a winner? Will you go down an /smg/ legend or will you wither away in disgrace and ignomy losing your meager gains like you always have before?
>few

>> No.56465880

>>56465864
Chance to buy the COIN dip

>> No.56465887

someone remind me why the Eurodollar system is seizing up again.
is it because there is no collateral left?
and there's no collateral left because the kikes have finally run out of goyim to dump their debt on?

>> No.56465893
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56465893

They gave me a second window to sell my oil stocks, and I didn't to take it...

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>Eeee baked.

>> No.56465897

DRV
>DRV
DRV
>DRV
DRV
>DRV
DRV
>DRV

>> No.56465899
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56465899

bid/ask is narrowing
am I Dead or Alive

>> No.56465900

>the number of posts in the last thread was higher than the price of SPY

that's gotta be a fucking first for the whole year to date

>> No.56465901
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56465901

Hello.

>> No.56465902
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56465902

>Do the needful mumu

>> No.56465903
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56465903

Total bobo victory.

>> No.56465908

>>56465871
>SOXL
It really is over

>> No.56465909

I LOST ALL MY FUCKING SAVINGS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.56465911

were healing (:

>> No.56465914

Reminder that BTC is being propped up right now because it is the cheapest asset by far to manipulate (as liquidity is so thin, compared to other assets with as large a cap)
BTC up = trying to promote retail buyers
That's how desperate the situation is, that they are trying to create a "risk on" mania by pumping BTC.
BTC rally will fizzle out too as the market crashes. Don't fall for this bait.
If you do make a trade, make sure you get in, get out, lock in your profits. Take advantage of the volatility to make profitable trades, but DO NOT DRINK THE KOOL-AID

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>>56465864
I almost thought that last thread might really be the last one.

>> No.56465917

>>56465871
If I sold I would be taking a 44% loss, or about $8k. Guaranteed this would be one of those times where I sell and everything immediately reverses.

>> No.56465918

How retarded would it be to slurp AMZN leaps right now? IV is only like 30%.

>> No.56465920

>>56465887
planned catastrophe to print at the bottom and buy up anything worthwhile
goyim only get the first part obviously

>> No.56465921
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>30Y above 5% again.
Did the FED lose the long end of the curve already lmfao? They haven't even cut once. There's just no way we're not peaking in yields otherwise it's over.

>> No.56465927

>>56465900
it could have gone higher if we just let it run until page 10 but trannies weak-handed it like always
we can't have good things because of troons

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>>56465900

>> No.56465933
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56465933

WE'RE IN P PERIOD

>> No.56465936
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56465936

>WHERE THE FUCK IS DAVID SOXL?!?
>I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A WORD

>> No.56465937

>>56465921
needs to go to like 7% to form a proper normal looking yield curve, we're a long way off

>> No.56465944

>>56465920
doesn't really answer the root cause but alright.
i guess the eurodollar bros aren't in the house today.

>> No.56465953

>>56465864
What's the best broker to trade crypto with leverage that's not a crypto exchange??

In the event of a severe bear market, I wouldn't feel safe trading on these exchanges as they might collapse. I'm wondering if there's any reputable general brokers for retail traders that allow you to take CFDs on Bitcoin with 1:50 leverage and likely won't collapse in a bear market? It seems like there's so many out there but it's hard to find one that
>Doesn't require a huge minimum deposit
>Allows you to trade with high leverage
>Allows you to trade crypto

If anyone knows, I'd really appreciate it

>> No.56465965

JOHNSON ON TRACK TO WIN SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE

>> No.56465966

>>56465953
prolly just the btc futures

>> No.56465970

Hey I haven't looked at my portfolio today what's going o-oooh shit

>> No.56465971
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56465971

>10 year at 4.95%
>USD to Yen almost at 150 again

Hey bulls, are you ready to get Pearl Harbored? When the BoJ dumps more useless fucking treasuries that no one wants, we’re blowing by 5% and crashing this market

>> No.56465972

>>56465936
What do we do about our soxl losses..

>> No.56465975
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>>56465953
Doesn’t exist on reputable brokers anon and they’re damn sure not giving you leverage on crypto

>> No.56465976
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56465976

Oil brothers the BIDED 79$ put worker. Bidenomics in action.

>> No.56465986
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56465986

mumu what are you doing I thought this was a hard wall?

>> No.56465993

>>56465933
Image Sauce?

>> No.56465994
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56465994

I was able to save a lot of money because I have no friends, no gf and no hobbies, I don't go on dates either. Being almost 30 now, I'm beginning to have second thoughts. How can I recover from this, financially speaking?

>> No.56465995

>>56465953
idk I'd trust Coinbase over Morgan Stanley desu.

>> No.56465997

>>56465986
it is, we are about to get a speaker, shutdown cancelled, government funded, market rockets

>> No.56466000

>>56465871
What it's just a dip under the 200 like SOXX in January or SPY in March?

>> No.56466004

>>56465971
Eh, the EU keeps raising wages so I'll just keep buying american stocks. You think you dealt with your inflation? Now deal with ours.

>> No.56466005

>>56465993
do it yourself

>> No.56466008
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56466008

Could you imagine meta saving this market?

>> No.56466011
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>>56465994
>I was able to save a lot of money
How much?

>> No.56466012

>>56465901
Hi. Mooning stocks and zero interest rates are coming back soon, right?

>> No.56466016

>>56465994
>I was able to save a lot of money because I have no friends, no gf and no hobbies, I don't go on dates either. Being almost 30 now, I'm beginning to have second thoughts. How can I recover from this, financially speaking?

there's only 1 thing to do anon: use your money to make more money

>> No.56466018
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56466018

>>56465921
HIGHER FOR LONGER
>HIGHER FOR LONGER
HIGHER FOR LONGER
>HIGHER FOR LONGER
HIGHER FOR LONGER
>HIGHER FOR LONGER

>> No.56466021
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>>56465871
thank you anon, just secured my puts
now I can focus on just making money and putting it into my 4.5% yield savings account to buy at the start of the year.

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>>56466008
in the AI powered and coded metaverse all things are possible

>> No.56466027

>>56466011
about €170k
this is a lot of money for us europoors

>> No.56466032

>>56466018
"Higher for longer" has been replaced with "even higher for even longer."

>> No.56466031

I’m going to short Amazon here for real this time.

>> No.56466034

God damn it just keeps going.

>> No.56466036
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56466036

if your portfolio equity curve doesn't look exactly like this, give up on trading sorry. Idiot..

>> No.56466037
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56466037

>ko

>> No.56466040

>>56465953
Just buy calls on BITO

>> No.56466052
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56466052

>>56466027
>about €170k
>A lot of money.
Anon... I.

>> No.56466055

newfags learning what volatility actually looks like after getting compressed by 0dte's and covered call dividend funds this summer

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>>56465929

>> No.56466062

Can we take a moment to laugh at all the SOXL leveraged rotation bros that were acting cocky as fuck over their 4 fig gains, only to sit on those same positions for the whole ride back down because
>gotta wait for that 200 day sma cross bro

For strict adherents to the strategy, they are closing out the position today with a portfolio that is now underperforming S&P YTD.
However, it is more likely that today is the moment that adherents break from the SMA strategy they so proudly declare, and instead chase SOXL further back down into the abyss.

>> No.56466065

>>56465971
>crashing this market
>with no surviors
You're a big bear, if I rip off that mask will you default?

>> No.56466066
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56466066

>>56465917
shrodinger's market

>> No.56466070
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>>56466061
idk man this looks like the bottom of the channel on the shit and piss index.

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>>56466061

>> No.56466074
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56466074

0DTE puts?

>> No.56466077

>>56466052
so I threw away my youth for nothing
I want to throw up

>> No.56466078

>>56466052
He is not wrong. Europe is unironically poor.

>> No.56466081

>>56466070
Still nice to see the meme circulating of the pic I took >>56466071

>> No.56466082

>>56466034
what keeps going

>> No.56466083
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56466083

>>56466070
>>56466071

>> No.56466086

>>56466066
I'd take Alabala for this one. I think they would have naval power.

>> No.56466087
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56466087

i dont know what the 10Y treasury yield being at 5% means

>> No.56466088
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56466088

WHY THE FUCK IS IT STUCK ST 4193 WTF IS THIS

>> No.56466089

>>56466074
I'm going to sip some coffee and just enjoy having made money today.

>> No.56466091
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>>56466036
OH NO NONO NO NO NONONONO

>> No.56466095

>>56466074
0dte call broken wings

>> No.56466097
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56466097

IT STARTED OUT WITH A KISS
HOW DID IT END UP LIKE THIS?
IT WAS ONLY A KISS, IT WAS ONLY A KISS

>> No.56466099
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56466099

>>56466081
Based culture contributor.

>> No.56466100

haha market go down

>> No.56466101

song for all the bobos today
https://youtu.be/xs2PDMEEQXs
>Mumu, spread your butt
>And take it like a slut

>> No.56466102

>>56466077
That's not bad.
You should have been able to do that *and* have some cheap hobbies but 170k is pretty good.

>> No.56466104

>>56466087
that you should buy treasuries. At least a little.

>> No.56466105

>>56466087
Kind of same. People keep talking about these magical 5% yielding USA treasuries, but all I can buy are 30Y 3% Spanish or Italian bonds.

>> No.56466106

>>56466087
no one does...

>> No.56466107

>>56465971
But bobo, 5% rate for a 10yr bond is the historical average. It's actually a reasonable amount of interest for a 10 year loan. Debt isn't supposed to be free, the bond market has finally healed from 2008

>> No.56466108

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>> No.56466109

>>56466062
I'm still up 40% YTD, even after three months of red bullshit. That's why I'm not convinced to sell and run around screeching about the economy collapsing. The bearish narrative is so hopelessly shortsighted even though it's been proven over and over again that the boglehead method plainly works in the long run

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56466113

NOW I'M FALLING ASLEEP
AND SHE'S CALLING A CAB
WHILE HE'S HAVING A SMOKE
AND SHE'S TAKING A DRAG
NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BED
AND MY STOMACH IS SICK
AND IT'S ALL IN MY HEAD

>> No.56466114

>However, it is more likely that today is the moment that adherents break from the SMA strategy they so proudly declare, and instead chase SOXL further back down into the abyss.
This anon is shitposting but likely the quoted text is correct. Don't do it SOXL bros. REMEMBER YOUR TRAINING. Do it just to spite this anon and make me proud

>> No.56466115

>>56466078
You can't even buy a 3 bed 2 bath apartment in a capital city in eastern Europe for that kind of money. Can't get a studio in a capital city western EU countries.

>> No.56466116

SAVA. Lol.

It. Keeps. Happening.

>> No.56466117

>>56466036
whats your strategy?

>> No.56466118

>>56466105
3%
Are you retarded? They might be at 3% but your yield will be higher cause their price is below 100%.

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>>56466088
Art Cashin said last week the real resistance is 4175 and if that breaks then prepare your anus… It’s funny how bids are getting put at 418 today since people know if that breaks at 417.5 then it’s Joever

>> No.56466123

>>56466062
Chop. Chop. Chop. Chop. Chop. Chop. Leveraged ETFs.

Beta slippage.

volatility drag.

>> No.56466124

>>56466105
30y Italian bonds should not be priced like that. more like 5.3

>> No.56466132
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56466132

BUT SHE'S TOUCHING HIS CHEST NOW
HE TAKES OFF HER DRESS NOW
LET ME GO
AND I JUST CAN'T LOOK, IT'S KILLING ME
AND TAKING CONTROL
JEALOUSY, TURNING SAINTS INTO THE SEA
SWIMMING THROUGH SICK LULLABIES
CHOKING ON YOUR ALIBIS

>> No.56466134

>>56466107
I really don't get how people are dumb enough to make this argument.
>5% yields are normal!
yeah.. not if you have 130% debt to GDP lmao. if your debt becomes too large, a 5% interest rate = literally larger debt service than the entire US military budget
Do you know how insane that is? To be paying more in debt service than the annual US military budget??
furthermore, it's about the sharp decrease in bond prices and the impact this is having on banks balance sheets. the banks bought the bonds when rates were near 0, now rates are 5% - they are eating hundreds and hundreds of billions in losses on the bonds. it doesn't matter that its "just 5%" - BAC is still sitting on $130 billion on bond losses.

>> No.56466135

>leveraged etf

>> No.56466136

>>56466114
Man you just know that market makers are going to moon it if people start unwinding their leveraged positions. Fear and Greed index still looking like things could go like last October but what the fuck do I know.

>> No.56466139

>>56466115
Most eurpeans can't do that and that's the point.

>> No.56466142

WHY ARE WE DUMPING ON GOOD NEWS WTFFFFF

>> No.56466143

>>56466087
Clown world is over.
Hell world is here.

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>>56466123
dont forget delicious footsies

>> No.56466148
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BUT IT'S JUST THE PRICE I PAY
DESTINY IS CALLING ME
OPEN UP MY EAGER EYES
'CAUSE I'M MR. BRIGHTSIDE

>> No.56466150

Who or what will save the market?

>> No.56466152

>>56466134
Here comes the guy who types like a faggot and insists that the US debt matters. Lol. God bears are the fucking worst.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.56466163
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56466163

BUDDY

>> No.56466164
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>intel
More like retar

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56466165

UVXY
UVXY
UVXY

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>>56466143
Bear markets are were fortunes are made.
Anons, will you step up and create generational wealth? or fall to the unknowns of history?

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>>56466152
>God bears
the mortal stock market never had a chance.

>> No.56466177

>>56466115
>Living in the capital of any "Western" country
Ew.

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56466176

i went long on a stock
but i should have shorted
the results make me wish
that i were aborted

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56466180

Cowards.

>> No.56466181

>>56466123
The strategy was backtested. It was not supposed to end like this.

>> No.56466185

>>56466152
Lmaooo. You are 100% a paid shill. You are a faggot. Get a real job.
>STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO THE US DEBT!!
>STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO THE DEBT SERVICE!!
>EVERYTHING IS FINE GOY!!!
*******meanwhile.. US debt service (just the interest payments) exceed $766 billion, larger than the entire US military budget**********
EVERYTHING IS FINE!!!!!1111ONE
Stop paying attention!!!!!11111one

>> No.56466186

Bros my wife’s bull isn’t happy im losing our portfolio

>> No.56466190

Who else is buying soxl at 14.88? Asking for a friend.

>> No.56466194
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56466194

>>56466118
Oh yeah what so I should buy sub-4% bonds from some place called Finland? What the fuck even is Finland, sounds Asian.

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56466195

Pullbacks are BULLISH. Simple as.

>> No.56466196

>>56466169
I'm probably going to lose half my money in retarded LEAPS positions and then the other half going back in too early.

>> No.56466198

>>56466134
>muh debt to GDP
literal nothing burger. we just print more money, maybe make some accounting tricks. Absolute worse case scenario they raise retirement age for millenials/zoomers lmao
>impact this is having on banks balance sheets
another nothing burger. Fed already bailed out banks with BTFP. If it gets worse they'll just expand it and print more.

terminally online doomers BTFO again

>> No.56466200

Anyone with a third of a brain would wake up today and look at the markets and expect to read headlines about something insane - but all they would see is how two huge tech companies made billions of dollars and beat expectations. It's nonsensical.

>> No.56466201
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>why yes I invest in companies that don’t pay a dividend but instead buy map pods and bug catering that dilutes shareholders with managements stock based compensation how could you tell?

>> No.56466212
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>>56466185
imagine if we declared usury unconstitutional
just imagine

>> No.56466213

>>56466198
>just print
People who talk about "printing money" in /smg/ should get a minimum two week ban.

>> No.56466214

>>56466134
>BAC is still sitting on $130 billion on bond losses
The banks can just hold those bonds until maturity. And with the BTFP, the Fed will lend to banks with the bonds as collateral, and the value of that collateral considered much higher than the actual market value.

>> No.56466217

>>56466136
That's the rub with trend following. There will always be whipsaw. That's the insurance premium you're paying to avoid the mother of all drawdowns. If you're following the strategy you just have to accept that. Remember if the market resumes its uptrend tomorrow you just get right back in no big deal. Think about it thusly, if SOXL holders don't sell and the market goes up they make lots of money. If they do sell, the market takes off and they have to buy back in a little higher they still make money just a little less. However if the market continues to plummet and you sell you preserve your money to fight another day. If the market goes don't and you don't sell well, you just played yourself. If one is following the strategy, selling is the rational choice

>> No.56466219

>>56466185
Oh my fucking god do you people unironically believe the US budget shit? Jesus fucking christ what a failure

>> No.56466225
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>>56466152
You are such a faggot. Bears are right some days, bulls are right some days. If you are so inflexible you are missing out on huge opportunities to make money being a stubborn one sided perma faggot that gets jealous of people making money up and down

>> No.56466228

>>56466036
>>56466117
It looks like you sell options, but I am curious what your strat is.credit spreads? sell naked calls?

>> No.56466229
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>>56466176
>Aaah! Aaah! Aaaaaaaaah!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTuD8k3JvxQ

>> No.56466231

I was told we were having crab...

>> No.56466232

>>56466198
>we just print more money
Nobody is buying the bonds. The way we get through a deficit is to issue more bonds. There are no bond buyers. The money is printed through the issuance of bonds. Furthermore, "we can just print our way out of it!!!" doesn't fucking work lmao - have you ever heard of hyperinflation?
You also sound like the kind of retard we get in /smg/ who types out "F.E.D."
>BTFP will save us!!!
Buddy, BTFP is $100 billion, the bond market is $50 trillion
BTFP is literally peanuts in relation to the debt blow up we are currently experiencing and will only get worse
You cannot bail out $50 trillion in bonds lmao.

>> No.56466233
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>>56466200
My favorite bit is China strongly hinting at massive stimulus and its market crabbing/puking.

>> No.56466239

>>56466117
I do semen retention before trading (retain my own semen in my own mouth) and I also use aggressive portfolio management through kelly criterion bet sizing and I neutralize my beta.

Really just been lucky because short beta been doing well

>> No.56466246

>>56466225
I'm not jealous of people making money, I just think being a bear is the most retarded, cynical shortsighted thing you can do. If people weren't bearish.....who would be selling? Retail has no fucking idea what they're doing and it allows market makers to manipulate the shit out of them. I would too, if I had a few million dollars to toss around. You guys are emotional as fuck and really, genuinely cannot seem to zoom out more than a few weeks.

>> No.56466253

>>56466144
To be fair she just got a pedicure so i expected her feet to not be gross
it was summertime. i was wrong

>> No.56466258

>>56466232
You can bail out whatever you’d like. Just how inflationary is it going to be is the question you must ask.

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>>56466233
Chink large caps will be at least 100% up from where they are by end of 2024.

>> No.56466262
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56466262

I NEVER
I NEVER
I NEVER
I NEVER

>> No.56466264

>>56466201
Don't forget half the shares are non-voting and the voting shares available to the public only allow 1/10 of a vote per share
HAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahaaHAHAHHAHAAaaaaa

>> No.56466268

>>56466214
No, they can't. Not when faced with massive deposit outflows that aren't stopping, that will only get worse as unemployment goes up (which is 100% inevitable)
>BTFP will save us!
>BTFP!!
buddy! BTFP is $100 billion! this is NOTHING. do you understand how large the bond market is? $50 trillion! Do you understand how large the derivatives market is on all of these assets? Literally $500 trilliion plus
There literally is not enough money in all human existence to bail out these positions lmao.

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>>56466212
One of my neighbors got a vampire buckee blow up Halloween decoration in their yard and I laffed… Buckee is blowing up in popularity

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>>56466239

>> No.56466278
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56466278

nasdaq is way more fucked than sp500 or russel now because googl, tesla, neta and amazon wil all semi collapse

>> No.56466280
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56466280

>>56466176
the markets are dumping
i'm not even sure why
but i'm shorting it all
like that burry guy

>> No.56466285

>>56466264
How anybody could look at that and want to become an investor is beyond me. The cuck/GOOG mentality is truly and enigma

>> No.56466286

>>56466246
Bogleheading will work for you if you take a time machine to 80years ago where europe was burning and you had an entire planet to freely loot because your biggest opponent was incompetent communists.

>> No.56466289
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56466289

GOIN' BACK TO TANGIER
WITH SOME JORDANS AND A SPEAR
POST-CHRISTIAN SHIT
POST CHICKEN AND THE EGG AND DICKS AND SHIT
WHO GIVES A SHIT
PASS THE SHERM STICK
NEO-REALITY
BE THE FREAK YOU WANNA SEE
JUST DON'T FOLLOW ME
I'M ON A JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THREE
GRAB YOUR FUCKING CHAIN AND DRAG YOU THROUGH THE BIKE LANE
WHILE EVERYBODY'S LIKE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.56466291

>>56466268
It's true that no bank can survive a run on deposits. That's not new.

>> No.56466296
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>>56466239
>I do semen retention before trading (retain my own semen in my own mouth)

>> No.56466297

We told you that if you were long you would be listening to this song repeat.
You didn't listen.
https://youtu.be/y983TDjoglQ?t=46
You never listen.
Now you get to listen to the song, again.

>> No.56466299

>>56466239
okay, I do nofap so semi-semen retention.
But isn't short beta just shorting the market?
>Using Beta
>A stock or fund with a beta of 1.0 tends to move up and down with the movement of the market. A fund with a beta of 0.5 moves up and down only half as much as the market. One with a beta of 1.5 moves up and down 1.5 times as much as the market.

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>>56466246
Well, I just took profit and switched sides and bought some calls. I love this rollercoaster

>> No.56466305

JUST CLOSE THE MARKET ALREADY

>> No.56466306

>>56465966
where can I trade that tho

>> No.56466309
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56466309

I can't believe /pol/ was right about the market for once

>> No.56466310
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56466310

I GOT THIS PREGNANT SNAKE
STAY SURROUNDED BY LONG HAIRS
A PLETHORA OF MANIACS AND SPIRAL STAIRS
make-your-water-break
IN THE APPLE STORE
SINK OR SWIM, WHO FUCKING CARES??
CUT THE BIRTH CORDS, PRESS SEND
YEAH, THIIICK
GAGA CAN'T HANDLE THIS SHIIIT

>> No.56466314

>>56466232
>There are no bond buyers
the fed is the buyer retard
>have you ever heard of hyperinflation?
despite people like you desperately hoping for a crash, its not happening. You've been priced out.
>BTFP is $100 billion
They can make it whatever they need it to be. All they do is hold them till maturity.
>You cannot bail out $50 trillion in bonds lmao.
oh so now we need to bail out the entire market?
you retard doomers

>> No.56466319
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56466319

It's over for real this time, isn't it?

>> No.56466321

>>56466286
>europe was burning and you had an entire planet to freely loot because your biggest opponent was incompetent communists
Literally exactly what's happening now

>> No.56466322

VVIX is 105.

VVIX is approaching 100. At 110 We Begin To Learn.

I've Warned you.

Look At VIX.

Creeping up Above The Volatility Abyss

It's Coming Back.

The Trapdoor Couldn't Keep It Down.

Trapdoor Spiders.

VVIX.

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also what kind of freaks dont hold KO the hedge stock. only green in the field again

>> No.56466326
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56466326

HEADED FOR THE SAMMY DAVIS WING
THROW UP A BLACK HOLE AT THE ENTRANCE OF LINENS N THINGS ON THE WAY
NEVER CALL IT A DAY
VISIT TESLA'S GRAVE SITE FOR THE NINTH TIME TODAY
STILL ON THE WAY
BIGGER WIGS

>> No.56466329

HOLY FUCK MUMU AT LEAST TRY SOMETHING.

I KNOW YOU WILL REPUMP IT IF SPEAKER GETS VOTED BUT THIS STILL IS EMBARASSING

>> No.56466331
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56466331

Vell vell vell, looks like I don't bounce very high at all.

>> No.56466332

yes hello is this the gambling and MMT wishful thinking dividend wars thread?

>> No.56466335
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56466335

Do American brokers offer portfolio ideas ranked by female leadership?

>> No.56466336
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56466336

>The insufferable faggot death grips spamming nigger bear is back.

>> No.56466337
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56466337

WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
>I'm in
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE

>> No.56466339

>>56466321
YES BUT WE'RE THE COMMUNISTS NOW!

>> No.56466340

The lunar eclipse in Taurus is going to be lit

>> No.56466344
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56466344

I've switched from the dark to the light. MUMU time to wake up and pay me. Bobo needs a break anyways he's been kicking ass all day, he's gotta be tired, right? R-right?

>> No.56466348

>>56466335
WTF BRO YOU ARE USING TRADE REPUBLIC ON THE COMPUTER. IT IS ACTUALLY WORSE THAN ON THE PHONE

>> No.56466350

>>56466321
not quite, already been looted. You are now buying the bags that were the end results of said looting.

>> No.56466352
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>>56466336
GO CATCH A JPEG TO THE HEAD, ÜBER REACH
YOU'RE AN INTERN, ON WIKILEAKS
MOST LOVED THEREFORE MOST HATED
COME KNOCK ON THE DOOR WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU
GAME CHANGER
RECLUSIVE AGGRESSIVE
YINNIN AND YANGIN AND NOIDED
INFO WARRIOR JACK THE HACKER
THE ROLLING STONER
PROPHET OF DISASTER

>> No.56466355

>>56466291
>that's not new
what is "new" [it isn't new, we see this same thing all throughout human history] is that covid stimulus forced a huge surge in deposits, which forced the banks to buy bonds at zero interest rates [as a bank doesn't just hang onto the cash of its depositors, it buys bonds with their $$$]
banks were forced to put billions and billions of dollars of bonds onto their balance sheets - and this is not even factoring in the decade prior to it where Fed had distorted interest rates to 0, and all the bonds that the banks accumulated on their balance sheets during this period, "naturally"
The banks leveraged themselves on commercial real estate, with the belief that "commercial real estate never goes down!" and took astronomical risks in their lending, as they operated that this assumption of real estate impossible to go down was axiomatic
what is "new" is the Fed distorting the economy so badly that we are at 3.5% unemployment, when maximum employment in a perfect economy would be 5% --- it is 100% inevitable that unemployment will sharply rise, as the business cycle is inevitable; and as it rises, deposit outflows will continue and escalate, and the banks will blow up.
Are you even paying attention to the extreme underwater auto loans? Are you paying attention to the massive spike up in delinquencies and defaults?
The banks balance sheets cannot withstand all of these attacks, and they will blow up, period.
This is nothing new, we've seen it over and over again throughout human history.
>history doesn't repeat, but it rhymes

>> No.56466360

>>56466070
>idk man this looks like the bottom of the channel on the shit and piss index.
the bottom of a down channel though

>> No.56466365

>>56466040
How tho?

>> No.56466366
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56466366

Cloudflare's chart looks like sinc(x)

>> No.56466369
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56466369

MY EXISTENCE IS A MOMENTARY LAPSE OF REASON
GOT THE DNA OF GOTHIC LEMONS
SHRED IT THIRTEEN TIMES OUT OF ELEVEN
YOUR BAD IDEAS ARE THE ATM
SHED MY SKIN
LEAVE IT FOR THE HOMELESS TO SLEEP IN
TRYNA GO FUCK THAT NAUTICAL
TEACHIN' BITCHES HOW TO SWIM

>> No.56466371

>>56466314
>the fed is the buyer retard
You are a genuine mouthbreathing retard. "You know how we're in a debt crisis where nobody wants to buy the debt the US issues?? I have a solution, the Fed will just buy it all!! That will solve everything!!"

>> No.56466375

>>56466348
I had to log in on PC, how else would I take a screenshot?

>> No.56466379

>>56466115
None can without a credit retard, 170k as capital is better than 99% of people who would

>> No.56466380
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56466380

Did I make a mistake just now buying QQQ weeklies at $350? Am I a genius or Insane? Is there a difference?

>> No.56466384
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56466384

>>56466375
>I had to log in on PC, how else would I take a screenshot?

>> No.56466385
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56466385

I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
TEACHING BITCHES HOW TO SWIM
TEACHING BITCHES HOW TO SWIM
>I'm in
TEACHING BITCHES HOW TO SWIM
TEACHING BITCHES HOW TO SWIM

>> No.56466386

>>56466380
>just now
You may or not be fine. If you bought them yesterday you're ded kiddo

>> No.56466387

>>56466201
just invest in a company that wastes half of its profits through payouts to widows and idiot sons bro! They will surely compete with a company who reinvests that money in the long run.

>> No.56466389

>>56466335
Wow I have LEAP puts on half of these.

>> No.56466394

>>56466375
Just saying. It's horrible. At least it was months ago. Killing low end computers. Rarely seen a webpage needing more power.

>> No.56466396

>>56466379
>None can without a credit retard,
Speak for yourself kek.

>> No.56466400
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56466400

NOW BACKSTROKE
THROUGH YOUR K-HOLE
DON'T RUNNN
YA MIGHT SLIIIP
THE TABLE'S FLIPPED AND NOW WE GOT ALL THE COCONUTS, BITCH

>> No.56466401
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56466401

>>56466329
Sorry bud markets don’t care about the speaker that was just the media talking point to keep retail invested (bag holding)

>> No.56466402

>>56466386
No literally a couple mins ago I cashed out my puts and switched sides. It can't just keep dropping and dropping and dropping, r-right?

>> No.56466406
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56466406

MUMUS IFFY UH
THOUGHT THEY BOUGHT THE DIPPY UH
BOUGHT THE TIPPY TOP
NOW THE BUBBLES FINNA POP

(BEEEEEEEEEEEEAR GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG)

>> No.56466410

>market doing this huge stinky because a subdivision of google got earnings slightly lower than expected
Unironically we are experiencing bobo hysteria. Everyone wants a crash because they feel like they missed out on 2020.

>> No.56466412

YOU HAVE A HOUSE SPEAKER; REVERSE IT

>> No.56466413
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56466413

>>56466365
like this mang

>> No.56466419

>>56466402
beats me, honestly. I can't tell if bobo officially ate mister crab or if mister crab is just taking an extra long lunch.

>> No.56466424
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56466424

BURMESE BABIES UNDER EACH ARM
SCREAMIN' BEAUTIFUL SONGS
THE CRAY CRAY ULTRA CONTRARION
HAVIN' CONVERSATIONS WITH YOUR CAR ALARM
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
SOON YOUR CREW WILL BE SERVIN' SANDWICHES NAMED AFTER ME
VIETNAMESE STYLE FOOL, PLEASE

>> No.56466427

>>56466412
bond market cares about that. stonks give zero fucks, especially during earnings season

>> No.56466433
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56466433

FRONT ROW AT THE MASS GAMES
UNTRACEABLE BY NAME
YOU SPEAK OF US IN CERTAIN CIRCLES, YOU WILL BE DETHRONED OR DETAINED
GONE
GONE
YOUR SHIT IS GONE
GONE
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE

>> No.56466435

>>56466410
Colocation is like the oil of tech. It should be this really straightforward thing that you just grind out and everyone needs. If it's losing money that's pretty ugly.
The reality is that Google absolutely jerks their customers around and they've created this really nasty reputation for themselves among people who buy compute. IMO it's indicative of fundamental issues in the rest of the company and I think most people can at least understand that.

>> No.56466434
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56466434

417.02
I'M TAKING CONTROL

>> No.56466438
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56466438

>>56466419
I'm trying to catch a bunch of falling knives without gloves on, what could go wrong?

>> No.56466439
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56466439

>KO holders

>> No.56466444

>>56466394
Seems fine now. But to be fair it is just the app but with the interface scattered around randomly. I'm relatively new to TR and don't know what's going with the UI, but from the financial side they seem very good. Only quirk I have is that some days when the market is red bu USD went up TR can show you all green because they convert prices into euros.

>> No.56466445

>>56466324
oh look a new avifag luckily this one won't last long

>> No.56466447
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56466447

BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS BREAKERS

>> No.56466449

Mumu, your mental gymnastics throughout this thread are insane, on a broken ankle no less.
You are like a crack addict going through detox, begging for your crack, just a little hit please, to get you through the rest of the day.
No mumu. We have taken away your crack.
You need to get sober. We have been trying to help you get sober for countless months.
Stop smoking crack mumu, for you and your families (financial) health, please.

>> No.56466453

I am finally making more money after exchanging my INTC for OXY this summer than if I just held INTC. Take that mr. market. I do know what i am doing.

>> No.56466454
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56466454

I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in

>> No.56466458
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56466458

>>56466444
Haven't noticed that, but I did notice you trips.

>> No.56466461
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56466461

>>56466439
did they cancel the divvy to invest in AI cola?

>> No.56466466

i-its just a slight correction

>> No.56466469
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56466469

Come on mumu, I see your eyes starting to move. Print my calls you had dead fucker get up! Gets some coffee, wakey wakey

>> No.56466476

>>56466324
>up only 126% since 2006
ko should be ashamed of itself.

>> No.56466480

My investments are with great companies.
They will come back.
>t. denial mumus

>> No.56466485
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56466485

>>56466461
It's still there.

>> No.56466488

>>56466176
I haven't known you long poem anon, but is everything ok?

>> No.56466494
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56466494

Why didn't you listen?

>> No.56466502

>>56465864
If youre not buying Google right now you're a fucking idiot

>> No.56466504

>>56466413
oh so BITO is only a phone app? I can't find anything when I search it

>> No.56466505

>>56466371
That is absolutely what will happen you fucking retard

>> No.56466510
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56466510

>>56466476
it's not like permanent hold but a hedge hold

>> No.56466514

>>56466480
>Two more weeks!
>market crash eminent!
>muh bonds!
>muh debt!
do you doomers ever tire of being wrong?

>> No.56466516

>>56466410
Also bears are slobbering over a chance to relive 2022 even though we've had three months of red based on complete bullshit instead of somewhat credible inflation/rate hike fears

>> No.56466517

>>56466504
You must be using a "broker". I just buy my stuff in Robinhood

>> No.56466519
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56466519

>R elect speaker
>keep selling
Government shutdown priced in

>> No.56466520

Anyone else scared of AH?

>> No.56466523

>>56466445
15 years counts as a new now

>> No.56466526
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56466526

Alright Mr. Crabs, I've had Mumu for lunch.

>> No.56466527

>>56466387
Microsoft and visa have done really well since becoming dividend stocks more than a decade ago. MSFT absolutely mogs GOOG and they both compete in the same cloud space. The trick is to pay out but keep the payout ratio small so you can also reinvest. No law says that dividend companies can’t reinvest their money. You think that throwing money into a business will just automatically make it grow x%? Those funds could be misallocated 1000 different ways so that you get neither growth nor cash distributions.

>> No.56466529

>>56466510
>22x P/E
>Hedge hold
Wut
Even Buffet is dumping KO.

>> No.56466536

Can I convert my shares to cash or do I need to find someone who will buy them?

>> No.56466537
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56466537

but I really really want surf and turf

>> No.56466538

>>56466527
The trick is that they actually support their products.

>> No.56466539

>>56466514
I went short at 4605 SPX in July.
SPX is now 4189
So no, I do not "tire of being wrong"
I tire of feeding caviar to the pigs in /smg/, trying to make them money, spoon feeding them information when to go long, when to go short, when to scale out, and then people complaining that they are losing money.
That is what I tire of. But I will not stop trying to help people in /smg/ make money. I want everyone in /smg/ to make it. However, there are some within /smg/ that have become Norm Macdonald tier gambling addicts, who enjoy losing money, who enjoy dragging down the rest of the thread with them.
It appears you are one of them.

>> No.56466541
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56466541

I hate perma bulls so much it's unreal, but my magic voodoo indicators were screaming at me on the Qs to go long here,

Don't worry fellow bobos, I'm still a Bobo at heart but saw something I could try to bottom tick. I hope I don't get heemed bobros I'm not a traitor just greedy is all

>> No.56466546
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>>56466529
i dont trade funamentals like all the lemmings, that's perhaps why i win

>> No.56466550

>>56466488
Nope

>> No.56466552

I sold my home at the peak and I'm gonna let it ride and try to make it during this market cycle. Am I retarded or based?

>> No.56466555
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56466555

>>56466536
I'll giya tree fiddy for all ubem boss

>> No.56466556

>>56465914
Interesting take. I like it

>> No.56466560

>>56466546
If you don't trade on fundamentals (in a rising rate environment no less) then what the fuck do you trade on?

>> No.56466566

>>56466516
And 4 months prior to that we had a 20% rally based on literally nothing.

>> No.56466567
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Anyone buy DKNG for this football season and realized you'd do better actually betting on the games?

>> No.56466573
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56466573

>>56466536
You need to put advertisements in the newspapers explaining that you have shares for sale specify your price, and remember to leave your phone number for potential calls from buyers.

>> No.56466578

>>56466567
Sports betting is for niggers.

>> No.56466582
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56466582

>>56466560
my bloodlust

>> No.56466588

>>56466567
I made a nice stack shorting that bitch over and over a couple years back. Good times

>> No.56466590

>>56466560
see
>>56466582

>> No.56466592

>>56466582
And your bloodlust tells you to long KO? Are you lusting for your own blood?

>> No.56466593

>>56466560
I trade on volatility. When volatility is high I sell, when it's low I buy. Vol takes fundamentals into account even better than SPX price in my experience. Obviously I am not long right now

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56466603

>>56466560
The Ultra Instinct.

>> No.56466609

>>56466560
price action and FEEL. THIS IS A CASINO!!!

>> No.56466612

>>56466593
While I am not "long" in the interest of full disclosure I did lay on some VIX futures shorts a bit ago when that spike seemed a little extended

>> No.56466618

we are so back

>> No.56466619

>>56466567
Damn. The vax got another one

>> No.56466622
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56466622

>>56466592
no KO raises insulin and decreases gdp net -3x its market cap by its own existence.

>> No.56466623

>>56466550
Well sorry

>> No.56466628

>>56466560
TKB
Tummy Knows best

>> No.56466641

>>56466622
>Maximal harm
Interesting objective. Part of me wouldn't be surprised if that actually did turn out to correlate with shareholder value.

>> No.56466642

>>56466539
>My short position was right for 90 days so the global economy is 100% collapsing!
Man

>>56466566
>rally was based on nothing
lol no it was based on the fact that for all of 2022 the narrative was "inflation is cRaZy and rate hikes will never end and banks will all fail and WWIII will start!!!!!" and that all turned out to be a nothingburger

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56466654

………….

>> No.56466658

>>56466642
>My short position was right
glad you can acknowledge this
why do you think I went short?
this has been the most telegraphed collapse in human history, and you are still insisting that it isn't happening. wake up. it's literally happening before your eyes.

>> No.56466659

Who else is loading up on extremely cheap BITF Jan 2025 LEAPs?

>> No.56466660
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56466660

MUMU keep it going I'm barely up anything, do that green dildo raped you are so good at doing pretty please

>> No.56466663
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Pretty big red carnage today but yet not many pink wojaks and bears in /smg/. How come?

>> No.56466665
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56466665

Anyone notice how euphoric mumus are over the slightest upward movement while bobos barely give a shit about dumps? Are mumus just grasping at straws while bobos are calm and calculated because they're confident about their positions?

>> No.56466669
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56466669

Wow they're shaking out the goys before the rally to new ATHs... Who could have thought?

>> No.56466670

>>56466663
Im not that red today, goyslop saved me

>> No.56466676

>>56466663
After trading through the last 3 years of carnage /smg/ is collectively getting better at this game

>> No.56466682

just like that SPY will never be below 418 again

>> No.56466683

>>56466659
That's an interesting idea. ATM? I'd kind of want to wait a bit for prices to go down before I switched to calls.

>> No.56466691
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56466691

the markets are healing
PLEASE HEAL MARKETS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.56466695

>>56466642
The rise in UST yields that now turns out to be so bloody for risk assets was entirely predictable before that stupid rally. So yes, it was based on nothing.

>> No.56466696

>>56466665
No I'm just playing a few calls with a bit of my Bobo profits for the day. If we get a fat green dildo I'ma cash out this degenerate scalp

>> No.56466699
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56466699

>>56466682
Weak.

>> No.56466700

FACEBOOK BOOMERS SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.56466702

Wave 3 of 5 coming in hot on Tesla.
SPX targeting 4400 into Apple earnings.

>> No.56466704

>>56466658
Last year, people were calling an imminent collapse, that's how I knew we're going to pump for a while. Now people think all the problems have passed and we are ready to start the next bullrun. That's how you know there's an imminent collapse. People are truly retarded and will fall for the same shit A THOUSAND TIMES

>> No.56466707

>>56466663
within retail investors as a whole, the market (for this previous week, based on surveys) is split about 33% bullish, 33% neutral, 33% bearish
within /smg/, we unironically have less braindead sheep who drank the exit liquidity kool aid - say what you will, but the collective, total investment IQ of /smg/ is higher than the general retail public
I would say within /smg/ the breakdown is closer to 25% bullish, 15% neutral, 60% bearish
so naturally, when the red day occurs, it's not as much AAAA wojak posting, because 60% of the thread is making money

>> No.56466709

>>56466702
If Apple doesn't blow this out the whole fucking market is going to implode.

>> No.56466728
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56466728

why do you fight mr crabs

>> No.56466729
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>>56466702
>SPX targeting 4400
Fuck the chimpout in here would be insane.

>> No.56466731
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56466731

>BTC is just a speculative asset!
>it'll go to zero with 5% FFR!

>> No.56466732

>>56466707
Sometimes I like to post pink wojaks for fun when I'm making money on bear plays

>> No.56466734

red, what a color huh

>> No.56466735

>>56466658
>most telegraphed collapse in human history
Which is precisely why it won't actually be a collapse but okay keep believing that Big Money will let you win

>>56466695
Oh that's wild you knew last year that China and Japan would start offloading US bonds?

>>56466707
>/smg/ is 60% bearish
Get the fuck out of here with this shit. A handful of obnoxious bears doesn't mean everyone believes it.

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56466759

Wow all this bullshit really is just Google's fault because the failed to live up to literal beyond perfection pricing. Who knew

>> No.56466769

>>56466709
Sell the news regardless.
Spyders will be under 340 by year end.

>> No.56466773

>AGNC dividend yield today 19.1%
God I really want to buy a bunch of AGNC shares because if we recover now and that they don't cut the divi I will be the dream

>> No.56466779

>>56466735
>/smg/ is 60% bearish
>Get the fuck out of here with this shit
Sorry that you're losing money anon, I'm sorry that you are in the minority bulls here. I'm sorry that you are unable to see the writing on the wall that has clearly telegraphed what is going to happen. I'm sorry that we have been unable to convince you to not lose money. My only hope for you is that you continue to hold long for 5 years, is this is the minimum amount of time you will need to break even. My biggest prayer for you is that you don't suddenly start listening after we bottom in mid 3000s SPX, and then decide to sell and go short. Then you will lose everything, you will sell the bottom, short the bottom. I pray that sooner than this you will come to your senses.

>> No.56466785

>>56466769
>$340
That's pushing it a lil too far brosephus

>> No.56466790
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56466790

>>56466735
>Oh that's wild you knew last year that China and Japan would start offloading US bonds?
The data is public. They have been dumping since 4Q21.

>> No.56466792
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56466792

>He's not holding SH as a contingency

>> No.56466795

>>56466735
The majority of zombie companies and shitty ponzi schemes (tesla etc) are still thriving. GME still exists. The market requires a cleansing and people like you (perma bulls) will pay the price

>> No.56466798

>>56466494
When should we have started to listen to you exactly? A year ago?

>> No.56466810
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56466810

power or sour today?

>> No.56466813

>>56466759
I just can't believe that anyone with a brain believes that Google's cloud computing sector is about to shit the bed. Earnings seasons are so fucking retarded about this shit.

>>56466779
Just because bears have been the biggest faggots for over a year and ran off all the actual intelligent posters doesn't mean the rest of the world agrees with you. Get out of your echo chamber and realize that you're flat out wrong about muh collapse.

>> No.56466819

>>56466790
So you're just going to ignore the on-trend upward move starting Q3 2022?

>> No.56466829

>>56466792
i hold SPY and SH at a 60/40 ratio, perfectly hedged and ready for anything

>> No.56466833

>>56466813
The smart bears have been doing great for the last few years. I shorted last year during the crash and exited the market completely during the bull run. I didn't ride the upside but I was smart enough to close my shorts when I realized that the doomer narrative became too popular. The bull run is an expected shakeout so that retail cannot profit off an incredibly obvious economic catastrophe

>> No.56466835

>>56466759
The concentration risk on these big funds is insane right now. I unironically think the rising rate environment will kill the "S&P 500 algorithm" and we'll get a new regime in the stock market that looks more like it did pre 1950s.

>> No.56466836

>>56466819
Don't move the goalposts.

>> No.56466839
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56466839

>>56466829
>perfectly hedged
Look at this financial gooner.

>> No.56466840

I'm so fucking tired of being poor

>> No.56466842
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56466842

>>56466785
it took 9 months for the crash to complete last time.
the 1929 crash 2 months
the panic of 1873 took 5 years to bottom

what kind of ride are we looking at?

>> No.56466844

>>56466659
What strike price? Im complete newb with options, put in 1.50usd call in https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com/calculator/long-call.html and I got only 150% profit at 3usd at time of expiry.

>> No.56466848

>>56466773
The time to buy is after the inevitable cut

>> No.56466852

>>56466683
BTC miners are just so out of style now, even the May 2024s are kind of cheap on the 1.50 strike.

Ive loaded up on the 1.50Cs expiring Jan 2025s at $0.4.

>> No.56466853

>>56466842
Idk but he said by end of year

>> No.56466854

>>56466833
>The bull run is an expected shakeout so that retail cannot profit off an incredibly obvious economic catastrophe
Oh my god this is the most insane cope yet

>>56466836
No really, you're going to continue claiming that foreign entities are dumping US treasuries even though the image you posted clearly shows they've continued buying them at essentially the same rate for at least three years?

>> No.56466857
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56466857

>>56466840
WELCOME TO /BIZ/ HOW POOR ARE YA?

>> No.56466860

>>56466813
Google has no business in cloud computing

Cloud growth will be International, and there Microsoft will (is) winning

>> No.56466865
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56466865

SVIX bros, what's next on this chart?

>> No.56466866

>>56466514
anon look at the 3 month chart lol

>> No.56466869

>>56466865
Pain.

>> No.56466870

>>56466844
I bought 1.50Cs at $0.4

>> No.56466879

Crabs are recked.

>> No.56466880

>>56466860
Oh yeah I'm sure the company that runs the most popular email client in the world as well as one of the most popular online storage clients in the world, both with over a billion users, has no business in cloud computing

Do you faggots ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS SHIT

>> No.56466892

>>56466854
>No really, you're going to continue claiming that foreign entities are dumping US treasuries even though the image you posted clearly shows they've continued buying them at essentially the same rate for at least three years?
Don't move the goalposts.
Here's what you said before:
>Oh that's wild you knew last year that China and Japan would start offloading US bonds?

>> No.56466893

>>56466880
Appeal to authority.

>> No.56466894

>>56466866
>zoom out bro!
>to the 3 month chart!
Really hahahahahaha it's every fucking time hahahahahahaha you guys CAN'T zoom out more than that hahahahahahahahahaha

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>>56466869

>> No.56466897

>>56466865
The big squeeze.

>> No.56466900

>>56466860
>Google has no business in cloud computing
maybe as number 3 internationally...

>> No.56466903
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56466903

>>56466840
Just inherit $1.6 million bro, and lose $250k your first year trading and you will have $1.35 million to invest and you can quit your job. It's really that simple!

>> No.56466906
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56466906

mr crabs, I hope you have enough war chest for sour hour

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>>56466894
>look at the 5 year
I will close my puts at 3929

>> No.56466918

>>56466893
Hahahahahahaha it's an appeal to success you absolute fucking faggot

>> No.56466917

Welp, I finally bot puts on Apple.
I'm ready to bet against nigger ski goggles and iPhones with burn in.

>> No.56466919

Seems kinda weird to me that China, Japan, et al would suddenly start unloading treasuries at the bottom of a 50% drawdown. Why not just wait it out and get all your money back? When rates start going down which they inevitably will the mark to market price of those treasuries will inflate right back up to where they were. I don't get it

>> No.56466927

>>56466903
My grandma has like a $5m estate. After taxes and split between her 3 children would be like 1.25mil
I just hope my mom gives it to my brother and I or that my grandma just puts $500k to me in her will. Because my mom is an absolute retard when i comes to money.

>> No.56466933
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56466933

>>56466917
Oh no. You just jinxed us bro!

>> No.56466935

power hour?

>> No.56466937

>>56466919
Yeah strange, right? No one could have predicted that something like that would cause intense bearish speculation in US markets.......

>> No.56466940

>>56466860
>Google has no business
This is all you needed to say.

>> No.56466941

>>56466919
They are buying oil.

>> No.56466945

>>56466935
hope is not a good investment strategy.

>> No.56466948

>>56466918
kek look at this GOOG baggie

>> No.56466950

>>56466946

>>56466946

>>56466946

>> No.56466951

>>56466927
>my mom is an absolute retard when i comes to money
If you mom gets ahold of that cash it will be gone. Do everything you can to avoid that and start working on it now

>> No.56466954

>>56466933
Yeah in all likelyhood. Watch me lose $10 an hour over the next two days.

>> No.56466957

>>56466945
GOOGLE IS ENDING GREEN, I'M BUYING CALLS

>> No.56466969

>>56466813
theyve been trying to scrape pennies by banning adblockers. Do you thing their jump to 4k 1080p standard had an affect on bandwidth costs?

>> No.56466990

>>56466729
Thats a man

>> No.56467032

>>56466927
Your mom is gonna blow it all on cocain.

>> No.56467043

>>56466903
so what you doing with your port now

>> No.56467116

>>56466903
Stop screwing around and DCA into US treasuries.
There's zero reason to gamble with more than 1-5% of that.

>> No.56467200

>>56466217
So take a $2000 loss on 500 shares of Soxl out of fear today? Sorry, no.

>> No.56467258

>>56467200
If you'd been following the strategy the whole time you would have gotten in on January 11th and you would be up 20% right now. In order for a mechanical trading strategy to work it has to be followed correctly without emotion or hesitation. When you learn that you will stop losing money fren

>> No.56467751

>>56466623
Don't be
I'm a fucking loser and deserve everything going wrong in my life

>> No.56468062

>>56467751
its ok man we all have those days. just survive.