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Smooth Criminals Edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://tradingeconomics.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates

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>> No.56454133
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Boogedy market

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Be a better friend to yourself, anon.

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REEEE MAKE TLT STOP GOING DOWN!!!
MAKE JWOW BUY THE BONGS AGAIN!!!
FUCK THIS FUCK THIS FUCK THIS!!!

>> No.56454143

Now nobody will know what retarded garbage or failing positions I posted in the last thread were. New thread, new identity.

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Wow this bull market sure is nice eh bros? W-wait, you did buy UTSL right? I shilled it all day yesterday surely you went all in. What's that? You didn't listen? Oh..

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Bonjour

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my analysis shows SPY bounces off 420.69

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>>56454143
Your female broker knows anon.

>> No.56454170

>>56454161
SHE'LL NEVER TELL, SHE'S LOYAL

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>>56454135
>21 century and we still don't have human milk for sale in stores.

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anyone know where i can find the implied % move for GOOGL after the earnings release?

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IT'S ALMOST HALF PAST TWO, AND YOU CAN TELL BY THE LIGHT
OPEN YOUR WINDOW, AND LET IN THE ATMOSPHERE!
LET IT BREAKTHROUGH, OH LET BREAKTHROUGH
LET IT BREAKTHROUGH, OH LET BREAKTHROUGH

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>>56454143
The jannies glowing boss knows

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>>56454151
i dont listen to anyone who takes yahoo finance screenshots

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>>56454177
Think or drown got it don't it?

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>>56454176
Human milk is earned not purchased, get a wife and impregnate her. Mommy milk is for reproducers only.

>> No.56454217

>>56454170
She laughs about your trade with her attractive coworkers the moment she gets off the phone

>> No.56454222

gap fil

>> No.56454225

Here comes the 2yr bond auction

>> No.56454235

Lets go back to good times NQ

>> No.56454236

>>56454215
this. we are having our first and they are plumping up nicely.

>> No.56454242

>>56454121
Verizon and coke have a great quarter and the market wants to poop? What gives? These are large companies

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the 6 month looks like we are bullish but the 5 year looks bearish
AAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.56454252

vwap is basically everything these days
vwap holds we go up it breaks we go down

>> No.56454254
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>>56454033
>something crazy must have happened on August 1
It happened on July 27th
>>55677820
>>55677883
>>55677921
>>/biz/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=euro+shorts
>ECB just gave indication that they may be less hawkish moving forward
this was the straw that broke the camels back, as prior to this, the dollar had been moving like
>pic related
to explain the dynamics at play here for newfags such as yourself (even though you've been lurking here for ages making similar screeching posts to this one)
US economy surprised to upside based on (false, propaganda) data [funds operate on this data whether it is true or it is false.. another dynamic /smg/ fails to understand] meanwhile EU economy was farding and shidding - especially German economy. EU waved the white flag in the fight against inflation, prioritizing economic growth over lower inflation - this means lower interest rates, less economic activity
>lower interest rates offered on bonds requiring native currency to buy the bonds = less demand for the bonds with lower rates and less demand for the currency with which to buy those bonds
>less economic activity = literally less demand for euros from everyone, that someone doesn't need euros to pay their employee as they laid them off, or someone doesn't need euros in order to buy a new car as they are not spending - overall less demand for euros
meanwhile US rates going up and up, Fed has the ability to keep tightening as US economy has not exploded yet = US bonds more attractive, relative to EU bonds - in dollar basket euro is 57% of the weighting, so changes in euro = big changes in the dollar index
since then, dollar has gone up from 99 to now 106
this is too large of a headwind for the market to overcome, let alone the effect that higher rates has on the markets, which we have explained to you over and over - this is not even mentioning foreign CBs selling US assets
>>56393382
>>56393400
>>56393409
>feeding caviar to pigs

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>>56454190
They probably have a database the connects every post to a single user over time via IP address, cookies, browser fingerprinting, etc. and just laugh their asses off at most /smg/ posters' timelines. Probably sell it to Ken Griffin so he can get a laugh too

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>>56453996

>> No.56454282

>Master's degree from an ALA (American Library Association) accredited library school; or ability to obtain a master's degree from an accredited library school within three months of the job advertisement closing date
Did you know that libraries have their own universities now, like law schools and med schools?
#themoreyouknow

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>>56454177
almost 7 dollars, whatever percentage of 137 is 7 is your answer.

>> No.56454287

>>56454250
5 year doesn't look bearish to me, looks like MACD is about to turn around

>>56454254
tl;dr, see you when bond yields shit the bed for some unforeseen reason and bears are gnashing their teeth

>> No.56454308

>>56454242
They aren't tech so the market will shit

>> No.56454311

>>56454287
>bears are gnashing their teeth
It is you, mumu, who will be crying out for
https://youtu.be/7Dqgr0wNyPo

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>>56454254
>meanwhile EU economy was farding and shidding
I don't understand why the ECB even bothers. Europe is and will always be an economic basket case. Since the great recession the US economy has doubled in size while the EU hasn't expanded at all despite the latter having 50% more people and much lower interest rates. Euros just aren't interesting in anything beyond working 25 hours a week and sipping on warm water in their non air conditioned micro houses. That makes them happy. Leave growth and innovation to the big boys in North America and SE Asia

>> No.56454329

>>56454242
The entire market is propped up by Tech companies who for the last decade have done nothing but inflate their numbers, hire questionably legal immigrants in record numbers, take on tons of debt and arguably produce worse and worse products over time that bring nothing of value to humanity.

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56454330

I made $250,000 this year selling covered calls to option gamblers, 80% of the time it falls out of the money and I keep my shares

Why is this not a more popular trading strategy? I cant think of any cons or real risk here

>> No.56454331

>>56454315
It's also the case that the EU regulates everything into the ground and anyone smart enough to come up with something worth investing in is also smart enough to realize that he should do so in the US.

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Back testing previous res

>> No.56454344

>>56454315
Europe will never be on the same level as the US because it's just a bunch of nationalist tribes up against a mostly homogenous continent. At the most foundational levels Europeans can't cooperate, it's practically impossible with such stark language and cultural differences within such a relatively small area.

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>>56454330
It works until it doesn't (but it still works more often than not).

>> No.56454347

>>56454330
this is basically all I do. it's reliable income with clearly defined risks.

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Reiterating. The entire airline industry in aggregate is down on average 35% since July. It's been a very orderly selloff.
Industries built on high capex and floating debt cannot function at current real yields that the market is pricing today. A collapse is coming. Zombies walking to their grave.

The same is true of consumers in aggregate. The demographics in the US today simply can't support what the Fed is trying to do. Too many retiring boomers. You can't offer positive real yields at multi-decade highs heading into a large wave of retirees. They're happily feasting on America's future, not a doubt in their mind. Meanwhile on the other side of the coin, broken endebted zoomers writhe in financial misery, holding loans and credit card debt that they know full well can never be repaid, hopping around minimum monthly payments, working multiple jobs just to stay alive and cover the rent on that 1 bedroom apartment.
But the cracks are starting to show, the system is rotten, broken, and finally some visible signs of this decay are starting to appear across major economic indicators.

>> No.56454356

>>56454349
FUCK OFF
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>> No.56454360

>>56454330
I've got 50k cash, recommendations?

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>>56454315
if anyone looks at
>pic related
and doesn't burst out laughing and see how ridiculous and distorted the situation we are in is, I don't know what to tell you
>Greece 10yr yield lower than US 10yr yield
L o l

>> No.56454375

>>56454366
>Greece matters
>at all
lmao wtf r u doin m8

>>56454347
>>56454330
If you had 675 shares of SOXL what would you do with covered calls?

>> No.56454377

>>56454330
hi Tom

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>>56454330
Literary free money. Yes I agree farming free money from goombler paypigs should be more popular here
>spoiler /smg/ are your customers. That's why

>> No.56454387

>>56454356
The saddest part is that most people don't even realize what is happening, because certain numbers aren't going down - they're flat.
Every moment that goes by and your stocks, your home, your life stays flat while t-bills yield 5.5%. That's a loss. With each year that passes, you fall further into the hole.
The opportunity cost is no longer zero.

Understand the difference between a nominal and a real profit. It may save your financial life.

>> No.56454390

>>56454375
I think that's the anon's point. That's what makes the situation so clownish

>> No.56454391

>>56454375
buddy, do you even
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_government-debt_crisis

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>>56454149
Nothing ever happens.

>> No.56454394

>>56454349
BRO THE MARKET IS COLLAPSING BRO I SWEAR IT'S OVER STOCKS ARE FINISHED
LOOK AT THE REAL YIELDS BRO ITS CRAZY BRO I'M TELLING YOU THE FED GOES BRRR THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN THE STOCK MARKET WILL COLLAPSE

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>>56454330
What size is your portfolio? It must be fucking huge to make that much selling ccs

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>>56454380
Hello iron condor anon

>> No.56454413

>>56454395
Good question, I inherited a large sum of money a few years back so your performance will vary from mine. My portfolio is currently 1.6M, and yes It does make me nervous knowing I have 95% of my net worth tied up in some magic numbers on a computer ( as opposed to say real estate or something )

>> No.56454415

>>56454375
I would sell CC on SOXL 3-4 weeks out, close them at 50% profit or more. ideally strike would be greater or equal to cost for maximum safety. however your average may not allow that.

>> No.56454417

>>56454236
I should call her..

>> No.56454424

>>56453974
Right now I'm doing RIG. Low price so not a high capital requirement, high volatility so good premiums, and if I get assigned I think there's actually some upside to offshore oil in the next 1-2 years and they have some of the newest assets.

It's not exactly a blue chip though with all that debt. So play at your own risk.

>> No.56454431

>>56454395
Just inherit 1.5m from your family anon, it really is that simple.

>> No.56454433

>>56454260
oh no. they can tie me to all that shit posting I did about officialmcafee's murder.
what's that current Norton shitware trade under now GEN ?

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>>56454177
>tiktok filter
I just noticed the difference in the face between the two images. He was right

>> No.56454475

>>56454393
a cosine wave is just a displaced sine wave

>> No.56454476

>>56454394
When you take a step back and look at it from another angle, in truth the market already has collapsed. SPX has gone nowhere for 2 years now. That's 24 months of silent losses, over 5% of your working life. For comparison, the selloff post-covid was fully recovered within two months.
Bond market looks even worse. Literally decades of "gains" wiped out if your duration exposure was far enough out.

Yet this is really just the beginning. More pain is coming. Soon enough they'll realize that what they thought was locking in a positive real yield was just another facade. Then the true misery begins. The ponzi is unravelling.

>> No.56454480

>>56454462
still would
I actually prefer the right.

>> No.56454488

>>56454415
Is the 3-4 weeks out just to allow yourself enough of a time cushion in case the price does something wild? My understanding is that you collect the premium immediately, but then what do you do with the call if you don't want to hold it for a month?

>> No.56454506

Is Citi a buy? It’s been tanking after they beat earnings.

>> No.56454507

>>56454349
Don't worry, the boomers will let the government borrow money to send the zoomers off to fight in the sand box. Then the zoomers come back in the forever boxes and we won't have to worry about the demand side for new houses since the people who were going to be the consumers of these homes are going to be moving into Arlington instead.

>> No.56454512

>>56454413
Happy for you anon, and very jealous you had forebearers who kept the money in the bloodline rather than throwing it away on worthless crap. I'm afraid I won't have that kind of dough in this lifetime but maybe I can leave it for the eldest son.

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>>56454413
You can write off the $2000 tax loss that you were kindly thinking of spotting me anon, kek. I promise to pay it forward to another poorfag when I hit 7 figs. Just open a kikehood account and you can send and receive whatever type of crypto anonymously to and from a nice relative poorfag like myself in a couple mins.

Don't you feel sorry for that poor and lonely cold little hungry Bobo outside watching you feast?

>> No.56454520

>>56454488
Somehow I'm not surprised that the same anon shitposting his way into actual geopolitical/macroeconomic discussing doesn't even understand basic concepts around option strategies like covered call selling.

>> No.56454524

>>56454488
3-4 weeks is just to get a higher premium and allow theta to still work fast. then it's time to wait and let theta do its work. you can buy the call back at any time and you're left with the premium minus the buy back cost.

>> No.56454534

>>56454488
You just buy it back at half the price you sold it for, it decays a little bit each day if nothing is happening

>> No.56454549

>>56454488
as a follow up too, you will find yourself closing often at 1-2 weeks. most of the time the option will have lost 75% of it's value and it's not worth waiting another week or two for the other 25% when you can just write more calls 3-4 weeks out.

>> No.56454556

>formerly 24 hour diners now close at 11pm
i hate this new timeline

>> No.56454567

>>56454549
It's fine to hold to expiration or at least down to the mythical .01, locked in profit is locked in profit.

>> No.56454580

soxl_shill at it again? a new generation born?

>> No.56454582

>>56454330
>>56454549
How do y'all pick which stocks to do this with?

>> No.56454589

>>56454488
>My understanding is that you collect the premium immediately, but then what do you do with the call if you don't want to hold it for a month?
You're newfren with a fundamental misunderstanding so I'm going to break this down real easy for you. Say you sell an option and receive $50. You could then immediately buy it back but then you'd have to hand over the $50 thus breaking even. Every day assuming things go your way the option will be worth a little less. $49 then $47, $40 and so on until eventually on the last day it's worth close to zero. At any point when you feel like you've made enough money you can buy the option back and take your profit. Personally I do it at 50%. If I sell a $50 call and it trickles down to $25 I buy it back. However if it goes up to $75 giving me a 50% loss I stop myself out and move on to another trade since obviously this one isn't working

>> No.56454592

>>56454520
Fuck off dumbass, I'm not the one doomposting about how "the market has already collapsed!!!!"

>>56454549
>>56454534
>>56454524
Very interesting, thanks for the insight. How often are you buying back vs holding to expiration? I would of course love to sell some $18 11/24 calls on SOXL but with earnings that feels like a complete gamble

>> No.56454595

>>56454556
>stores that used to be open 24/7 now barely stay open until 9pm
What's the point? Most retail is self checkout anyhow. There's no way so many wagies died during covid that they can't stay open late for the nocturnal folk.

>> No.56454608

>>56454567
I've had em get down to .02 or .03 and I didn't get out of it and then something crazy happened and it shit coined up on my and I got my shares called away. I think it was something stupid like CEI I had sold ccs on and it mooned on me the last week til a shitload of contracts I sold would expire kek

>> No.56454609

>>56454582
I just do high volume ETFs with weeklies so SPY, SOXL, QQQ etc.

>> No.56454614

>>56454520
The trick is to buy the options that are trading for 1 penny, and then sell them for 2 pennies.

>> No.56454616

>>56454595
hopefully the coming depression will force everyone back to work so we can have comfy diner kino again
i'd even take cyberpunk robot automats

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>>56454375
i set a sell to open limit order for several dec 15 calls at $28 strike for 1.25
might sell, might not
SOXL is pretty violatile, so selling CCs at .3 delta around 45ish days out could easily go ITM forcing you to get assigned or roll at a relative loss
made about $1500 this year doing similar strategy, but also have been assigned and had to roll in the past just not lately

>> No.56454623

>>56454556
>>formerly 24 hour diners now close at 11pm
>i hate this new timeline
I don't know how long you've been around but the exact same thing happened before and after the financial crisis in 2008. Stores that formerly stayed open to 10 or 11pm reduced their hours until they only stay open until 8pm, even earlier on Sunday. It never went back and now with the scamdemic it's gotten even worse. Eventually stores will only be open 1 hour a day

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DTCC.com

>> No.56454637

>>56454284
thanks

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>>56454608
Yeah, I hate selling calls personally, I only do them ITM and for months out as a defensive measure. Selling them OTM grants a pathetic pittance compared to how much your underlying is being actively savaged by bobo, or it rockets into the stratosphere and you just glare at it the entire time until you roll calls on dips or accept death and let the shares assign. I'm a much happier camper writing puts then calls in these strange times.

>> No.56454644

>>56454589
Thanks for the info. I think options are purposefully convoluted and in general right on the line of gambling, but when people who have actually done it for a while explain it I can understand it.

>>56454619
Yeah with the way things have been going I think the chances of a semiconductor moon mission are about even with the chances of a bed shitting. I just want to understand a way to generate some income on my shares if things do go south.

>> No.56454651

>>56454592
I almost never hold until expiration, the closer to expiration the less the reward per day.

>> No.56454657

>>56454582
I pick ETFs with huge liquidity so I can get in and out easily. SPY and QQQ for equities. If I have some iron condors or calendar spreads open on one of those I'll try to diversify with either TLT or GLD so all my trades don't have a high correlation. When I'm picking something to open a trade on I look for whatever has the highest IV rank since IV rank correlates with higher premiums all else being equal

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>>56454582
>How do y'all pick which stocks to do this with?
I buy everything and then just watch it go up

>> No.56454668

>>56454556
>>formerly 24 hour diners now close at 11pm

the mcdonalds "dollar menu" is now the 2.50$ menu

>> No.56454671

>>56454592
>Fuck off dumbass
The irony is palpable.
I'll continue posting as I like, but I do appreciate when some of you willingly out yourselves as retards.

Covered calls are functionally identical to short puts, by the way. Put selling has been highly profitable into this silent collapse these past 2 years.

>> No.56454672

>>56454614
I know this is bait but
this is just donating fees to your broker
I mean vanguard charges $1 per contract

>> No.56454678

>>56454161
Last time I called my brokerage a black lady picked up and told me to have a blessed day.

>> No.56454677

>>56454614
A good way to get a guaranteed double. Aspiring options traders should take notes.

>> No.56454680

>>56454672
>giving 100% of your profits on a 100% return to your broker
ishygddt

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I'm afraid for the market

>> No.56454696

>>56454671
/smg/ was so much better when complete faggots like you weren't around, I remember it

>> No.56454705
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i'm liking this chart

>> No.56454706

>>56454672
wait do they charge you for the purchase and the sale? Like your 100% gain just becomes a 100% loss?

>> No.56454708
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56454708

Whats the average dividend of your portolio? I'm sitting at 2.4%

>> No.56454714

>>56454706
Yes

>> No.56454717

>permabulls are now considering selling calls
possibly a bottom signal.

>> No.56454723

>>56454671
>Covered calls are functionally identical to short puts, by the way
In fairness this is correct. If I wanted to sell "covered calls" I would be more inclined to just sell puts at the same strike price. The outcome is the same you just avoid having to buy and sell the underlying stock. Make sure you don't forget to close the trade before expiration if it's in the money lest you wake up with a surprise next trading session

>> No.56454765
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56454765

DAILY REMINDER:
/SMG is Option Strategies General. Always has been

/Smg IS NOT:
Bond general,
Divvies general,
Penny stock general,
Bioshit general
DCA general
Boomer fund general
401k general
Crypto general
Meme stock general
Commodity general
Real estate general
Shiny Rock general
Pokemon card general
Forex general
Selling unsecured personal loans general
Etc., etc

>> No.56454768

>>56454708
Christ im seeing a merchant in this pic. Ive been here too long man

>> No.56454770

>>56454723
You should actually like the stock. I did this with a low debt Polish auto manufacturer a while ago, their price dipped while I was short the puts and I just let them get assigned because I knew they were worth me.
The price went way up the next few days and I sold for a profit. If you wouldn't be the stock otherwise don't write puts on it.

>> No.56454780

>>56454696
Yeah dude, you're such an oldfag that you've been around for 8 years and yet you've never sold a covered call before. lmao.
Not only that, you didn't even understand the mechanics of how to click 2 buttons on your brokerage and enter the position. You needed handholding the whole way.

Thank god for oldfags like you. Anyway, SAVE just got a large buy order and I need to determine whether there's any news associated with the pump. Enjoy your thread.

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>>56454644
Find a good strike price that you're okay with getting assigned at
Anything else is gambling and likely to mindfuck you on how much you could have profited
Premiums, I've found 1-1.25 is a good spot for me on soxl, depends on greeks really
Days to expiration is usually 45 or so out for taking advantage of theta decay
As soon as it sells, set a buy to close limit order for about half the premium(50% profit), if it triggers then sell another set if possible
At 21 days look at closing, rolling or holding till expiration
Theres probably more but thats a good start on CCs imo

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>>56454765
Penny shitters are based, fuck you

>> No.56454791

>>56454609
>>56454582
I like uvxy and tqq you just collect at or near ATHs and sell fds on them.

>> No.56454796

>>56454768
>He doesn’t know

>> No.56454798

>>56454765
>Selling unsecured personal loans general
I remember those one or two anons posting about how ebin it was that now they got to pay out the loans to people with absolutely zero means of restitution outside of what the app gave them.
Haven't heard from them since, I assume someone decided "I don't have to pay this money back and there's nothing he can do about it," and so their money vanished.

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Hope you bought SOXL

>> No.56454806

>>56454723
That said I don't sell covered calls. Reason being is firstly I'm a trend trader so if I'm bullish on a stock that I'm holding I don't want to limit my gains by having my shares called away. And sure enough, the big trend I've been waiting on is the very one I'll lose my shares to just to watch it fly away from me. In the long term that would have negative expected value.
Secondly, what are the chances that the special snowflake stock I happen to be holding is the best candidate for premium farming out of the thousands of candidates available. I hold long stocks for certain reasons. I farm premium on stocks for certain reasons. Rarely do these reasons line up hence I don't farm premium on stocks I'm holding. I just write spreads on other stuff
>>56454770
I understan what you're getting at and I'm not throwing salt. Some people have a great profitable time with covered calls and I don't knock that. There are many ways to make money in the market and I'm certainly not one to claim my way is the only way

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>>56454798
It’s not much but it’s free.

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>>56454765
stock market general
anything stock market goes chud
with of course the occasional shitpost

>> No.56454831

>>56454816
Oh boy, one of you are still around. I really thought someone who took your loan would have either just left with the money and/or died, so well done for avoiding that catastrophe so far.

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>>56454816
Thank you for reminding me. I think I will scale this venture and be the credit card company!

>> No.56454837

>>56454765
>/SMG is Option Strategies General
wouldn't that be /OSG ?

>> No.56454841
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56454841

>>56454765
Sometimes we must talk about the underlying my fren.

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>>56454765
sir this is a gambling and substance abuse support general

>> No.56454847
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>>56454831
Doing better than most in the market!

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>>56454819
Nope. Options only. Hey I don't make the rules here fren sorry

>> No.56454853

>>56454837
look we're kinda retarded around here

>> No.56454855

>>56454847
Well, you outed yourself as a shill when you responded to your own post with "thank you for reminding me", so good try I guess.

>> No.56454857

>>56454841
>the underlying
what's that? I don't buy "underlying" I just buy calls wtf you on right now?

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>>56454855
Or I honestly forgot about my 93 dollars I put into a 3rd party debt consolidation company.
>EVERYONE IS A SHILL BECAUSE I DONT KNOW THINGS

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>>56454841
Yes, if you preface a stock as an underlying then yes that's fine to mention it then

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>>56454855


>>56454857
Options are a financial derivative (FD) who's value is derived from an agreed upon price between two participants. a (you) and a ((you))

>> No.56454893

TLT puts were not the correct move. How can I be this bad at this?

>> No.56454895
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>>56454791
>uvxy
Broken wing price targeted butterflys that take advantage of the VIX futures contango are kino on this one. That said I'm currently getting rekt on my batch expiring friday for obvious reasons. Oh well, it's broken wing so the losses will be miniscule compared to future gains on the next one

>> No.56454916

>>56454462
Imagine finding a wife whom you can have a conversation like the one in the bottom with. One in a billion.

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>>56454890
So if I no longer agree, then they cannot redeem it now? Why is there not a 'do not redeem' button next to the covered calls I sold?

they are fucking over I want my money or shares back now AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>56454832
You will never be a real credit card company. You have no Jewish banker backing, you have legal recourse upon default, you haven't worshipped Moloch. You are an autist twisted by daddy issues and trauma into a crude mockery of the credit perfection.

All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back finance Chads mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your cringe avatarfagging behind closed doors.

Anons are utterly laughing at you. Thousands of shitposts have allowed anons to sniff out LARPers with incredible efficiency. Even regional banks who “pass” as credit card companies look uncanny and unnatural to an smg anon. Your spreads alone are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to make a goyim pay exorbitant usury, they simply won't pay.

You will never be a usurer. You wrench out an "intimidating" grin after every poor night of sleep and tell yourself this is going to be just another loan in arrears, but deep inside you feel the cope creeping up like an apostle, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear – you’ll loan your last 7 dillars, the nigger you loaned it to won't pay it back, ever, and you will be a poor fag like John Rocker. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a background character is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably of a lender with no legal recourse.

>> No.56454932

>>56454916
I don't want a wife who understands macro economics, I want her to feel like it's too complicated and trusts me to understand it.

>> No.56454944

>>56454893
janet been selling you puts ?

>> No.56454947

>>56454462
THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION AND ITS CONSEQUENCES HAVE BEEN A DISASTER FOR THE HUMAN RACE
Watterson tried, but such concepts were a little too abstract for the targeted audience of that literature.

>> No.56454949

>>56454922
>no legal recourse
You think I’m playing nigga? You think your projections will stop me from becoming the hand that feeds? Fuck that nonsense and fuck your attitude. Sheeeeeeiiiit

>> No.56454950

>>56454893
slow like all retail

>> No.56454958

>>56454916
my girlfriend understands the system is shit and I have shown her uncle ted. She even is pilled on the JQ
I am proposing to her next month.

>> No.56454960

>>56454893
You betrayed your people. That’s why

>> No.56454961

>>56454947
Eh, nevermind, it's an edit. Been a long time since I've read those comics.

>> No.56454966

>>56454947
>>56454462
>>56454916
Lol I love Calvin & Hobbes but that comic goes to show that the bearish doomer mindset has always been wrong. Decades ago he was saying the exact same thing retail bears are saying now, meanwhile the world just continues on as normal.

>> No.56454967
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What a lovely day for degenerate crab traders

>> No.56454968

>>56454916
i have a rp wife
it has its pluses and minuses

>> No.56454971

I keep a watchlist of /SMG tickers that catch my attention for some reason. AGX is the only one up for the year. looks like it may be the last one I added but not sure when it was shilled.

>> No.56454976

>>56454961
lol yeah its all lines from Ted K's writings

>> No.56454977

>>56454966
Meh. I haven't seen improvement, just new shiny gadgets compared to increased suicide rates and mass shootings.

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What time do the AH earnings usually leak?

>> No.56454984

>>56454966
>the world just continues on as normal
Hell is coming and the longer things "continue" the more hellish it will be

>> No.56454986

>>56454966
You are who the politicians blame for not being allowed to have AI. You legit are the average person politicians are scared of when they say that artificial intelligence will confuse and cause hysteria amongst the populous. Cmon man.

>> No.56454991

>>56454960
See guys! I'm not even crazy, people really do judge me for being a race traitor.

>> No.56454992

>>56454982
I'm thinking when rabbihood closes 0dtes around 3:30

>> No.56454997

>>56454991
Of course they judge you! You expected otherwise?

>> No.56455000

>>56454982
Right about now or even sooner. It would just be a 1pbtid image of a company with nothing else and that's all you would have to go on

>> No.56455012

>>56454922
>every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a background character is buried there
brutal

>> No.56455021
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56455021

>money has been flowing into puts steadily all day

>> No.56455030
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56455030

>cash VIX and front month VIX futures finally back in contango
LET'S FUCKIN GO SVIX BROS

>> No.56455041
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>>56455021
The rug will be pulled, one way or another. Trust the strategy.

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>>56455021
So theres gonna be another squeeze soon is what you saying?

>> No.56455046

>>56455030
So that means we crab or go up right?
Am I getting better at this?

>> No.56455050

>>56455021
>>money has been flowing into puts steadily all day
Aren't something like 90% of long options goomblers unprofitable? Sounds like a good time to inverse

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>>56454330
So in turn you're saying that none of your stock/share holdings appreciated meaningfully so that your CC's would land ITM :^)
That's not really a flex, anon.

>> No.56455063

>IRAQ'S PRIME MINISTER SUDANI: FOREIGN OIL COMPANIES OPERATING IN THE KURDISH REGION INFORMED US THAT IF AN AGREEMENT IS REACHED ON OIL PRODUCTION COSTS AND CONTRACTS, THEY WILL RESUME OIL PRODUCTION WITHIN A MONTH.
oil baggies are so fucked lol

>> No.56455065

>>56455050
could be just hedging

>> No.56455066

>>56455050
Yeah for the most part. The steeper the contango the more bullish for equity indexes. It's not steep right now so either crab or mildly bullish. I swing trade vol short ETFs and futures so it's bullish for me

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>>56455046
Crabby day was too obvious
>>56452179

>> No.56455080

>>56455066
meant for >>56455046

>> No.56455081

>>56455063
Do not redeem the agreement

>> No.56455082

>>56454121
>wood needed

>> No.56455084

>>56455063
Don't care, still DCAing XOM.

>> No.56455087

>>56455063
HAMAS

DO SOMETHING

>> No.56455092

Anyone else betting META will save the market?

>> No.56455095
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put call ratio

>> No.56455099
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56455099

Gay ass market is hardly doing anything, I can't make money from this crab shit

>> No.56455103

>>56455084
why

>> No.56455107

Explain to me how a clothing stipend could not work for a campaign pitch, instead of the minimum wage that’s being tossed around, it could pop this industry in the Americas.

>> No.56455113

>>56455082
>wood needed
PFE

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higher

>> No.56455118

>>56455099
But anon yes you can, just take the degenerate crab pill

>> No.56455120

>>56455116
(for shorter)

>> No.56455124
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>>56455087
How about they release all the hostages and say, "We-we're sorry. It won't happen again, honest. We even agree to let inspectors come into the rape tunnels, I mean weapons manufacturing tunnels."

>> No.56455125

>>56454281
well, well, well...

>> No.56455130

>>56455118
>degenerate crab pill
Go on

>> No.56455139

>>56455107
Because very soon you will own the nothing, you will not even own the shirt on your back you vil rent ze clothes from a app

>> No.56455140

>>56455103
they bought at $120

>> No.56455148

Calls on carpets, puts on marble floors. Simple as

>> No.56455164

SPY 450 next week?

>> No.56455170

>>56455164
Dont make me moan with that talk

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My KO and my RTX are up a lot today idk how to feel

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>>56455063
kek

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>>56454919
Sorry anon you shoulda "viewed more"

>> No.56455190

>>56455170
On second thought, I am feeling more bearish now. It's over.

>> No.56455192

>>56454135
I’m trying

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>>56455079

>> No.56455203
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>>56455188

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>>56455181
I hate this all so much

>> No.56455206
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At least I can have some fun making AI memes

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>> No.56455212

Is Lumber still in play? Puts on real estate raise airbnb position hostels short parking lots take notes

>> No.56455218

>>56455130
Well I personally love short term butterfly spreads leaning slightly one direction or another during certain situations, other times I'll just do straight up calls or puts, but butterflies don't theta decay, well they do but it works in your favor if you are anywhere remotely near your target range

Some people do divvies and sell covered calls, iron condors, far OTM spreads, double diagonals are good too for longer crab periods. Lots of crab options look at the advanced options charts

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OH N-

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Dead general

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>>56455218
>the directional butterfly pill
fun new way for /smg/-lets to lose all their lunch money

>> No.56455289

>>56455279
I was just there on Saturday, still $1.50

>> No.56455291

>>56455190
bullish.

>> No.56455310

>>56455212
lumber will probably have a decent time once rates start coming down or on the first news of that

>> No.56455311

>20th reunion coming up
why the fuck would anyone go to these things? the few people from hs i give a shit about, i'm still friends with

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>>56455190
Let ambivalence take you maybe... If you want.

>> No.56455336

>>56455289
>I was just there on Saturday
Don't take this personal but you remind me why Costco needs to enforce having to be a member to buy from the snack bar. Undesireables have no place around decent people

>> No.56455339

>>56455218
advanced options are for governments, are you government, I’m playing with daily stock brokers that want to govern whilst being my age, do you understand?

>> No.56455350

>>56455285
I've been trading directional butterflies for 3 years, it's not new, I actually trade staggered diagonal butterflies and even when market goes the other way they still can go up relative from what you bought them for

>> No.56455351

Oil is crashing
What to do now.

>> No.56455353

>>56455311
>why the fuck would anyone go to these things?
to flex either a trophy wife or Ferrari. If you have neither then you don't belong there

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>>56455218
Options too complicated for grug. Grug think line gongo up, buy x2 bull ETF. Think line gongo down, buy x2 bear ETF.

>> No.56455355

>>56455311
It could be a great opportunity to hook up with that chick you always wanted to sleep with.

>> No.56455369

>>56455311
so they can cheat with old flames.
where is PRTY anon ? almost halloweenie time

>> No.56455370

>>56455354
What Grug do when rock market go sideways?

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>>56455021
yes. yes it is.

>> No.56455388

>>56455351
i bought one(1) share of xom and cvx each
i know I'm bold

>> No.56455392

>>56455370
Mostly grug stare at chart hoping it do something

>> No.56455399

>>56455164
SPY ~$429 within now and Friday next week.

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Nice try, Raytheon haters.

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>>56455351
>Oil is crashing
>What to do now.
buy the dip

>> No.56455413

>>56455351
Santa rally starts now, may his slay be fueled by the blood of Jews and Palestinians
>t.sponsored by Raytheon and Lockheed Martin

>> No.56455415

why do I not see spotify in search results, just me eh

hopefully now it can resume its standard programming of just going up like it did for 6 months before things went a bit gay

>> No.56455416

sour hour incoming?

>> No.56455431

>>56455400
>since Jannies know
I was a member of that thread

>> No.56455438

>>56455416
Prolly ~428 coming for max pain lol

>> No.56455439

QCOM FINNA RUN

>> No.56455442

after careful deliberation, i bought 80x leverage put warrants on ndx. position yourselves accordingly

>> No.56455443
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56455443

>>56455351
All in USOI. At least get some yield on your bags

>> No.56455444

>>56455416
The midday bear attack failed completely. Crab hour or power hour more likely.

>> No.56455452

Tesla November 3rd calls will print.

>> No.56455469

>>56455413
The war euphoria is fading as nothing ever keeps on happening.

>> No.56455471

>>56455439
>QCOM
This is a real good company with a real shit stock I would know ive had in my roth for years

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>>56455399
Then sell 2 $429 SPY calls, and buy a $425 call and a $433 call, if you are anywhere near that you get paid costs $55 max loss each , max gain $345 each

>> No.56455476

>>56455444
Shouldn't bears be focused on getting fat? They have a long hibernation period coming up, and that mother nature is only defeated through cutting taxes, and letting people own guns.

>> No.56455479

>>56455469
only thing that I know is that long term line goes up.

>> No.56455502

444444 black swan event running out of trading day

>> No.56455510

>>56455442
status update: mild crab. my demise can be watched by searching DE000UL84T25

>> No.56455512

>>56455502
kek mocks us. The black swan was our long term equity curve all along

>> No.56455521

>>56455502
If true then it'll be after hours MSFT/GOOG to kill the magnificent 7. Otherwise I'm preparing for another Nov-Jan Crypto Bullrun

>> No.56455532

>>56455512
The black swan was the friends we made along the way

>> No.56455541

>>56455521
I think MSFT and google beat earnings sending us up 10% on the indexes to where we were in july

>> No.56455547

KO is a wartime buy?
Literally a weapon

>> No.56455554

Who else knows what sanctions actually do, burn that house down Pete.
Who knows what sanctions do here if you’re not a dumbass, I’m calling every single one of you a dumbass. Dumbass, what does a sanction do?

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>>56455502
Soon brother

>> No.56455564

>>56455547
KO is a forever buy. When I say "humanity" what do you think of? Art? Music? Technology? Fuck no, you think of a nice cool can of coke.

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>>56455555
Checkin' them quints

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>>56455555

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my Googl 135p. are they gonna heem or print?

>> No.56455609

>>56455600
heem, sorry anon if you bet against jews you lose.

>> No.56455613
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>>56455572
Now the only question is, is that a red explosion mean stonks about to dump, or is Bobo exploding because it's about to get Bobo rekt with a massive melt up?

>> No.56455617

Damn... this fucking V shaped chart is making me hungry
All I have left to eat though is fucking ramen noodles

>> No.56455618

>>56455600
rolling for print

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>>56455541
the move after a "beat" is relative to the current price and future expectations. Everyone's positioning and excess liquidity is key to drive the nasdaq up. Also important earnings for the rest of the week: META, UPS, INTC, AMZN

In any case these next couple trading days are the worst performing historically for the S&P500. I locked my profits shorting oil and longing bitcoin miners just in case.

>First, we must deal with the absolute worst historical period of the year.
>Check out this week's daily annualized returns:
>October 24 (Tuesday): -32.64%
>October 25 (Wednesday): -36.65%
>October 26 (Thursday): -56.01%
>October 27 (Friday): -24.27%

>> No.56455629

posting it again.
debt ETF's are over-correcting to the upside.
ZN ain't confirming it.

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>>56455555

>> No.56455632

>>56455613
He might just be powering up....but I think he's about to explode

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>>56455400
>>56455431
> still got the shovel. line from The Shooter movie
i mean screenshot

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>>56455627
Hey... I do business...

>> No.56455640

>>56455600
Heem. Markets been in a running flat since Monday's bottom, mumu is in total and utter control.

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>>56455617
After the noodles boil for 1 minute crack a fresh egg into it and stir it up and cook for another 2 mins. Tastes good and gives you some protein

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Is it a good time to open nasdaq short right now?

>> No.56455660

>>56455641
I don't have any eggs, I scrambled them all this past weekend and then had to sit on the toilet most of the day.

>> No.56455666

>>56455653
why do you hate money anon?

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>>56455635
oops UPS van flew over my house and distracted me. correct screenshot.

>> No.56455681

>>56455629
also, Oil is over-correcting to the downside.
Nobody in the whole production chain of petroleum based products is fine with parting with their finite product with ever increasing input costs for less and less compensation.
They will fight tooth and nail to get Oil above $95 again, eventually.

>> No.56455702

>>56455600
I learned my lesson with earnings, it's just as likely they don't move nearly enough for you to actually make money even if you're right. If I had bought KO calls I wouldn't have made anything from them

>> No.56455705

>>56455681
oil is going to have a ceiling of $60 until the election soon, it is official us policy to crash oil

>> No.56455706

>>56455641
>>56455617
I like to boil the water in a bowl first then put the noodles in to soak. After a few minutes they fatten up and soak in all the water. Drain any that's left over. Then stir in a can of chili and some cheese-flavored goy product. If you want you can chop up some summer sausage and microwave the chunks for 45 seconds to fry a little and drop those in. Stir it all up and taste the gloriousness. If you really want to go all the way you can make a burrito. Get some tortillas and warm them up then spread some of your cheese sause on those then fill with the ramen chili mix. Fucking delirious with flavor

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>>56455627
I do not know what is going to happen anon. I just have a gut feeling either way I will be wrong.

>> No.56455721

>>56455706
Oh, don't forget to add the Ramen flavor pack. Beef or pork is best. If you hate yourself get chicken or shrimp flavor

>> No.56455729

>>56455681
anon, you know that technicals mean nothing. it literally all comes down to supply and demand with commodities right? opec can double output tomorrow and oil would be $40 a barrel.

>> No.56455743

>>56455705
If that turns out to be true, there's going to be an incredibly violent snap back, eventually.
Also, such maneuvers would be highly inflationary, even if they can successfully pin Oil to a desired range.
Somebody's gonna pay the bill.

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>>56455729
>opec can double output tomorrow

>> No.56455749

>>56455729
>supply and demand
lol,
lmao even.

>> No.56455750

>>56455746
more retarded shit has happened, remember you are in clown world anon.

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>>56455413
>Santa's Slay

>> No.56455756

>>56455706
Kind of sounds like the prison food recipes I've heard about, some people say it's good though some of the weird shit they come up with

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Huge divergence on the yearly chart, prepare for a decade long correction.

>> No.56455760

>>56455681
>They will fight tooth and nail to get Oil above $95 again, eventually.
>eventually
Are oil futures still in backwardation? If so you might have a chance of holding until "eventually" comes. If they go back into contango though..

>> No.56455761

>>56455751
glad someone caught it ty anon.

>> No.56455773

>>56455758
>any decade now

>> No.56455782

>>56455756
Prison? Oh, uh, yeah I wouldn't know anything about that

>> No.56455785
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I'm getting Pax Mained by mumus shakedown

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>>56455773
A couple more weeks.

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Is buying puts on MARA completely retarded or only semi retarded?

>> No.56455826

>>56455758
Decade long bond bear market. #Higher4Longer. #EdibleTHCProducts

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Alibaba & JingDong brothers, today I'm eating bread.

>> No.56455831

Baking

>> No.56455834

>>56455821
Semi at worst. This fake and gay crapto pump will fail like all the others

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Power 20 minutes?

>> No.56455850

>>56455826
>higher for longer (yields)
is about to turn stock market positive.
>the higher the yields
>the sooner le pivot
>the hotter le printer gon runneth
...will be the thinking.

>> No.56455874

Thoughts on TOST?

>> No.56455876
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>>56455821
You shoulda done it in the morning pump when I sold my MARA calls. Bitcoin hasn't been correlated with the nasdaq these days. But if MSFT/GOOG causes fear in the QQQ then MARA might still go down anyway even if Bitty stays above 32K.
>>56455729
technicals work fine for giving you the boundaries of potential price action. If WTI wants higher it's going to take more consolidation.

>>56455681
Saudis don't want Brent over 100/bbl because that will kill demand when China is struggling to right its economy.

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>>56455850
>>the sooner le pivot
You're missing the whole "for longer" part.

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>>56455811
>>56455811
>>56455811
>>56455811
Banked

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>>56455850
anon I think you do not fully understand what global corporatism is.

>> No.56455902

>>56455879
You absolutely misunderstood the premise and concept.

>> No.56455936

>>56455876
>let us part with our finite product for less and less compensation inshallah

>> No.56455947

i will never net even on uvxy it is so over
also am i gonna get heemed on taxes i tried to make sense of how it's taxed but couldn't quite grasp whether rebalancing is a taxable event for shareholders

>> No.56455995

>>56455936
>The solution to higher prices is higher prices.
The Saudis have fine tuned OPEC+ since their camel riding days and MBS is a savvy leader. Higher prices kills demand leading to lower prices and they know the sweet spot: 85-95/bbl Brent Crude for maximum returns.

>> No.56456012

>>56455947
I don't think rebalancing is a tax event, just selling, wash sale rules are like 30 days I think?

>> No.56456050

>>56455995
Show one aspect of the economy and commerce where higher prices ever reduced demand in a meaningful magnitude.
In a debt based economic and financial paradigm, demand is no longer a reason for or against economic activity.

>> No.56456081

>>56455541
>>56455521
i have GOOGL beating earnings. no opinion on MSFT

>> No.56456096

>>56456050
There's a limit to the amount of credit you can get. We're seeing that with housing.

>> No.56456107

>>56456081
Good, IV will go down and I can buy more puts.

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>>56455702
vanilla calls and puts for earnings are not the play because they are too heavily affected by volatility. you need to use spreads or other vol-neutral option structures

a simple call spread is almost vol-neutral, but you have to pick the correct price target for the stock

>> No.56456114

>>56456050
>that will kill demand when China is struggling to right its economy.

I might subscribe to your theory on debt based economics but China's a different beast and this is the price range that Putin, MBS and Xi have agreed upon.

>>56456096
You can see that more clearly with China's housing market

>> No.56456167

>MSFT pumping
>GOOG crashing

>> No.56456179

>>56456096
The Chinese housing market is an ongoing war between the corporations and the CCP and therefore secluded from the usual market forces.
>>56456114
China, at some point in time, will stimulate again.
They're playing a game, and controlled construction is a part of it.
Just look at what happened post 2008.
Nothing was a coincidence.

>> No.56456205

>>56456179
>controlled demolition
...

>> No.56456207

>>56456179
>China, at some point in time, will stimulate again.
At some point? They've been stimulating like a mofo all year

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>>56454315
>>56454331
>>56454344
US "gowth" is all based on ridiculous amounts of debt.
The US deficit is literally larger than the "growth".
>>56454366
Thats why the US now has to pay higher rates than Greece and Italy.
The Euro is also holding up well.
Europe is fine. The US is in trouble.
The markets are speaking.

>> No.56456248

>>56456207
Well, there you go.

>> No.56456270

>>56456248
and here we are with China edging closer into deflation

>> No.56456604

>>56456270
>deflation
Deflation is an impossibility in our environment.

>> No.56456706

>>56456239
They're both fucked desu. Germany was most of Europe and they're done.
When the US ponzi scheme ends so does most of the rest of the developed world except maybe Fucking Russia and the UAE.

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>>56456706
>Germany was most of Europe and they're done
two more weeks

>> No.56457892

>>56454765
I will literally start a bond general