/smg/ - STOCK MARKET GENERAL

[Anonymous No.56157874]

Shareholder Edition

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>Misc:
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https://tradingeconomics.com

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[Anonymous No.56157880]

Latest episode is out.
Always worth listening

https://youtu.be/v2DAYdH1IMc?t=36

[Anonymous No.56157884]

You've got to be fucking kidding me with this shit. Such a boring nothingburger of an FOMC meeting but somehow every dumb motherfucker and their brother are screaming SELL from the rooftops. Bears have to be the most shortsighted obnoxious faggots on the planet.

[Anonymous No.56157886]

>>56157884
Shut the fuck up bagholder faggot

[Anonymous No.56157888]

When do I buy back in?

t. cashgang

[Anonymous No.56157891]

>Fed dot plot.

[Anonymous No.56157892]

I FLEW INTO THE DANGER ZONE edition

[Anonymous No.56157907]

>>56157886
Not even holding any bags, still up 85% ytd. Just surprised by the infinite stupidity exhibited by most market participants. Seriously every stock live stream I could find today was full of mouth breathing retards legitimately saying SELL from the moment the FOMC statement was released even though there was literally nothing in it that should surprise anyone paying attention. Zero, absolutely none, of the information today was long-term negative.

[Anonymous No.56157911]

>>56157907
>up 85% ytd
What are you invested in currently. Asking for a friend.

[Anonymous No.56157919]

>>56157911
SOXL and TSLA

[Anonymous No.56157920]

>>56157880
>shineyrockman
If you haven't beat QQQ over the last 1, 5, 10, & 14 years you need to shut your month and all-in either the cubes or an asset that has. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.56157936]

>GOLDMAN SACHS PUSHES EXPECTATION OF US FED'S FIRST INTEREST RATE CUT TO Q4 2024 FROM Q2 2024 EXPECTED EARLIER
Pivotfags on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.56157938]

>>56157907
>Higher. For. Longer.
Market has been huffing pivot copium, the fact that the Fed is still signing another hike this year, and at most 2 cuts next (ie one net cut from here) is cause for the sell off

[Anonymous No.56157952]

>>56157907
Oh ok my bad then. Apologies, sir.

[Anonymous No.56157965]

>>56157938
>>56157936
Literally no one has given a shit about a "pivot" for at least the last six months, but you're also ignoring the complete pivot in policy that took place when the US decided to bail out banks and add to the balance sheet. The "higher for longer" meme is fucking retarded because 5% rates aren't "high" unless you're too young to remember the 90s, but I have zero faith that bears can actually act reasonably or work in timeframes longer than two weeks.

Again I feel like I'm actually the only long term bull left in smg, you idiots ran everyone else off.

[Anonymous No.56157968]

>>56157919
Thanks. Isnt Tesla quite expensive?
What do you expect for the next earnings, will their margins continue to suffer?

[Anonymous No.56157972]

So what am I supposed to take away from the events of today? Do I go on a buying spree and hold? Do I sell everything?

[Anonymous No.56157991]

>>56157880
We dont buy Jew Rocks here

[Anonymous No.56157992]

What do I but on open?

[Anonymous No.56157994]

>>56157968
No, Tesla is the original poster child for faggot bear fud and has unironically been subjected to some pretty outrageous political fuckery. They aren't even allowed to have their own dealerships because whiny legacy asshole carmakers have billion dollar lobbies dedicated to maintaining their collective monopoly on car sales, and the US government won't even acknowledge the ONLY American all-electric car manufacturer that's actually worth a damn, probably out of some inane Never-Elon bullshit. Long term charts for TSLA look bullish as fuck but I would only recommend buying and holding for 5-10 years unless you think you can catch a good swing.

>>56157972
Retail bears are the dumbest faggots on the planet and Big Money loves to manipulate them, that's the only real answer

[Anonymous No.56158023]

I will remember this slight cNxoQxIT

[Anonymous No.56158028]

>>56157884
Ironically Mumu's are shortsighted since they didn't see the higher for longer coming with these oilprices.

Just think of it.
October-November CPI will be good for MUMU because Oil 2022 suddenly spiked in October-November. But then Oil fuckin died. So, should Oil stay where it is or go higher, your January CPI will get RAPED.

[Anonymous No.56158031]

>>56157907
>from 170%
>to 90%
>to 85%
lol

[Anonymous No.56158033]

>>56157965
>5% rates aren't "high" unless you're too young to remember the 90s
Anon, Clinton brought the government into surplus. And we had so little debt Greenspan actually fretted about what to do if we continued on our trajectory and the market ran out of treasuries by 2010.

Our debt level is now more than double that and only getting worse. Our deficit is on par with WW2. And refinancing at current rates would mean we spend nearly twice the defense budget on interest alone.

5% rates are high.

[Anonymous No.56158038]

>>56158033
They are high because every state has become a degenerate debtoor. And the people pay for it (with taxes directly) and with inflation. The only that profit and Jerome said it practically indirectly are the people with capital. He said explicitily the most hurt people are the ones with NO savings. What he means with that is people without capital, without money to GAMBLE on the stockmarket with and beat inflation.

[Anonymous No.56158048]

>>56157173
Anon look at bloomberg grains futures monthly. 7 years of constant relentless downward movement. If you want to play commodities better to wait for oil and uranium pullback. Their biggest spike is yet to come. Or go play natgas directly. Why gamble on fertilizers when you can buy oil, uranium or natgas.

Look at wheat cot report this shit is not going up.

[Anonymous No.56158050]

>>56158038
Sure, that's all true. I'm saying that higher debt loads lower the maximum feasible interest rate or what qualifies as "high". 2% in Japan would cripple their entire economy.

[Anonymous No.56158062]

Yeah, I'm thinkin it's over.

[Anonymous No.56158065]

>>56158062
When do I sell tomorrow? When the contract hits 3 buckaroos?

[Anonymous No.56158069]

>>56158065
Pic for relevance

[Anonymous No.56158070]

>30Y COMPUTER

[Anonymous No.56158074]

>>56158050
What I found disappointing was that they are expecting 2,5% later down the road. This shit should NOT go below 3%

[Anonymous No.56158078]

Test

[Anonymous No.56158080]

>BRK.B the best stock/quasi-ETF for the last 2 years
How the fuck does Buffett do it?

[Anonymous No.56158084]

>>56158080
>start early aka boomer and earlier
>make a name/legendstatus
>CONman
How did Tesla pump to its heights? Point 2 and 3.
The market doesn't make any sense. How did Vinfast become the 3rd most valuable carmaker, more worth than BMW and Mercedes? How does that make sense?

[Anonymous No.56158086]

>>56157888
I shouldve never bought back in after Dec 2021. Id have so much more

[Anonymous No.56158091]

>>56158084
BRK-B is just riding AAPL's coattails and it's not even performing that amazingly.

[Anonymous No.56158094]

I want to talk to the stock market manager about arranging a refund

[Anonymous No.56158097]

>futures

bros do you think the holiday shopping spree in 2023 will be significantly worse compared to 2022? I've noticed a lot of normies IRL cutting back on so much shit lately, even dropping McDonald's entirely when they used to get big macs and mcnuggets all the time.

[Anonymous No.56158101]

BOND NIGGAS.....................

[Anonymous No.56158105]

Any of you still holding MONI? It's up over 1,000% so far this year and just getting started. Fun fact: The OTC always does it's best during downturns in the market and recessions. You wanna make some real money this year and save your ass, buy some MONI tomorrow and hold it for 60 days. You'll still make 10X, possibly more. I tried hard to get you faggots into MONI earlier, but you didn't listen. I'm going to try again here before it is too late and you miss it all. Buy some tomorrow and hold for 2 months or less. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.56158109]

>>56158097
I stopped using food delivery services and I'm retarded, so extrapolating that to all the retards in the country it's bearish.

[Anonymous No.56158112]

>>56158074
Anon, how do you expect us to fund all that free healthcare and housing for 20 million illegals? Taxes?

[Anonymous No.56158115]

>>56158101
Been living under a rock for the last 5 months. WTF is this!?

[Anonymous No.56158119]

>>56158105
You are a legit shill. Tell me again about WOGI. And tell me about your pajeet scheme. Then go back to starving so the dipshit village can re-elect their new town fool

[Anonymous No.56158120]

>>56158115
THE PLUNGE

[Anonymous No.56158132]

>>56158112
I don't care, I'm not US.

fuckin timed bullshit market pumping on the half hour.

[Anonymous No.56158152]

>>56158091
>and it's not even performing that amazingly.
In the past year AAPL is up 14.16%
BRK.B is up 35.49%

[Anonymous No.56158153]

>>56158119
Are you up 1,000+% on any of your stocks this year flat brain? I see you're still here holding these poor anons back. You're that dopey nerd making like 40k a year at at your worthless job, aren't you? I made more today than you will make all year. I remember you, worm. Fags like you plague this place.

[Anonymous No.56158156]

If the EU pumps today I am officially done with this market... nah it ain't gonna pump but I already know what is gonna happen. A gap down at opening only to be giga slurped and then we end at -0.2% by end of day.
Hell, if the Bank of England skips this hike (which they might and some "experts" are also supporting this view), we actually might pump across the entirety of the EU. Hurraaaay for 7% inflation (yeah yeah 6.7% whatever) forever bois

[Anonymous No.56158159]

It looks like it's getting to be about that time again.

[Anonymous No.56158175]

>>56158159
Tooker, have you developed any higher mathematics for predicting the stock market? I would be interested in reading your quant finance papers if you were to publish them.

[Anonymous No.56158180]

>>56158156
nah europe is gonna follow american stock market cause they cucked like that
flat or red day

[Anonymous No.56158185]

Why is DXY pumping, the fed isn't raising rates.

[Anonymous No.56158190]

>>56158156
Well, Asia is down, and we only need to wait one hour to see where it starts.

[Anonymous No.56158195]

>>56158180
Not necessarily. The DAX, FTSE 100, and OMX don't always align for some reason, especially as of late. But yeah, broadly speaking the rest of the world follows the US (for obvious reasons).
>>56158185
>the Federal Reserve signaled a rate hike may be still on the table
Big investors (smart money) are still running to the dollar since every other alternative just plain sucks. EURO is unstable and the ECB is weak, Chinese currency is pathetic... what else is there? There really is no other alternative is there? The dollar remains king

[Anonymous No.56158197]

>>56158185

[Anonymous No.56158198]

>>56158185
ITS OVER...................

[Anonymous No.56158203]

>>56158094
He's absolutely right.

>>56158153
He's absolutely gay.

>>56158156
He's also right. Either instant drop or instant pump. I think a drop to test lows and then reslurp. Yeah, 6,7% inflation boys, instead of 7%. Let's party, although previous was 6,8%, YAAAAAAAY.

[Anonymous No.56158205]

>>56158185
>Why is DXY pumping, the fed isn't raising rates.

[Anonymous No.56158212]

>>56158152
Shut the fuck up retard, here's your BRK-B outperformance relative to AAPL lmao literally just noise.

[Anonymous No.56158214]

>>56158205
Fed is essentially raising rates for the future. As they will cut later and hold higher for longer, which is like raising rates in the future from now on, without raising the current rate at the current date.

[Anonymous No.56158218]

Alright so how far will oil and uranium correct?

[Anonymous No.56158222]

Motherfuckin sons of whores premarket EU faggots.

[Anonymous No.56158237]

>>56158212
>post real numbers, "HERR DERR RETARD"
Your faggy chart is just as faggy as you are. The last 2 years BRK.B has vastly outperformed apple and the S&P,

[Anonymous No.56158256]

>>56158218
$30

I knew I should have sold as soon as I saw people making oil&gas generals on /biz/, it's an unfailing sign of a correction, and again it was accurate to the day.

[Anonymous No.56158258]

>>56158218
BITCH I GOT THAT DRIP (Direxion Daily S&P Oil And Gas Exp And Prod Br 2X Shs)

[Anonymous No.56158259]

>>56158237
Looks like the ponzi of all ponzis.

[Anonymous No.56158267]

>INSIDE APPLE’S SPECTACULAR FAILURE TO BUILD A KEY PART FOR ITS NEW IPHONES (WSJ)

>The company set out to design a silicon chip that would allow it to cut ties with Qualcomm, a longtime supplier and bitter foe

Bearish for Apple?

[Anonymous No.56158272]

>BREAKING: Fed futures now no longer show rate CUTS beginning until September 2024.

I will laugh if we keep hiking throughout the year

[Anonymous No.56158276]

>>56158256
/biz/ really do be like that. I remember last year at the height of boboism when people were unironically saying that Apple will go sub-100 and then the market started its massive bull run. Never ceases to amaze me

[Anonymous No.56158278]

>>56158272
Something as stupid as fed futures is going to be what finally breaks this retard market. Just watch

[Anonymous No.56158291]

>The FED didn't raise rates yesterday.
>There's people in this thread buying long-term bonds.
>Those same people think the FED gives a fuck about inflation.
Feels good to be in oil, coal and Kazatomprom I'll buy your bonds when they yield 10% and there's a positive real yield. Until then keep holding my bags.

[Anonymous No.56158311]

>>56158291
if you long oil, you long the economy. It's strange to me how so many bears on /smg/ don't even understand one of the most simple correlations in the stock market. If you invest in oil or steel, you are ultra bullish on the economy.

[Anonymous No.56158316]

>>56158311
Dumbest take I've read all day.

[Anonymous No.56158318]

>>56158267
Nah it is the status quo. They have an agreement with qualcomm for 3 more years. It is more bearish for qualcomm as a Apple will eventually develop a Modem

[Anonymous No.56158328]

>>56158311
Eh yeah, same thing during March-June 2022, rihgt? The economy was booming which is why Oil was so high.

[Anonymous No.56158340]

>>56158328
Oil prices are correlated with demand. If China is truly entering a recession oil prices should dump hard in the coming months

[Anonymous No.56158341]

>>56158311
Ah yes I too remember the post-1973 bullrun

[Anonymous No.56158356]

>>56158340
Isn't china allegedly SICK the whole past months? All data supports that argument. So Oil should go to 110 if they recover.

[Anonymous No.56158378]

My God EU is truly the bitch of the US. Slurp up all the shit so that US can dump again.

[Anonymous No.56158393]

>US 10YR +9BPS 4.48%

hahahahahahahahahahaha THE RIDE NEVER ENDS

[Anonymous No.56158394]

>>56158378
it's really hilarious to watch all this doom and gloom on here and then look at the EU reaction at open.
>Oh my god, terrible numbers came out, FED RATE HIKES OH NONONONO MUMU are you okay?
MSCI WORLD "dump" after the news: -0.38%.

[Anonymous No.56158396]

>>56158031
Soon it’ll be -20%

[Anonymous No.56158412]

>>56158394
We pumping today

[Anonymous No.56158423]

>>56158393
Wow almost as If the FED is assisting in the consolidation of the banking sector.

[Anonymous No.56158426]

>>56158311
>if you long oil, you long the economy.
WRONG.

Long oil = long inflation expectations.

[Anonymous No.56158427]

>>56158412

[Anonymous No.56158429]

i come to this board when i want to read the most retarded uninformed opinions imaginable. truly amazing.

[Anonymous No.56158430]

Yields...

[Anonymous No.56158433]

What should I invest in with my monthly 1k free money I have for investing? Buying index funds is boring.

[Anonymous No.56158434]

>>56158429
Share with us your well informed opinions.

[Anonymous No.56158447]

>>56158429
th-thanks u 2

[Anonymous No.56158451]

>>56158429
So you think Lum ain't cute? :(

Anyway, I wonder when we will start seeing the effect of the rates on the economy. They haven't affected yet. Shouldn't normies be re-financing this and the next year? A lot of businesses as well. That is when the real disflation happens and growth will finally start taking a hit. As such, I feel we still have at least good 3-6 bullish months left

[Anonymous No.56158462]

>>56158451
Lum is cute enough to shove up ones ass

[Anonymous No.56158465]

>Riksbank hikes to save their currency
>Gets trashed anyways
Good job Sweden

[Anonymous No.56158466]

STOP SELLING YOU CUNTS

[Anonymous No.56158472]

If you visit Riksbank webpage, this is on every page. Their motto:

>SVERIGES RIKSBANK
>– for a strong and secure economy
Kek, that means fuck your currency, Stocks up.

[Anonymous No.56158476]

>>56158465

Kek, the turnaround

[Anonymous No.56158481]

TTOO buyout is probably going to happen, company is too small for the product it has. Pfizer or J&J will buy them out and ramp up production for world wide distribution.

[Anonymous No.56158483]

Look at the SEK/EUR scamwick, holy fuck markets are truly rational and not about scaming your opponent.

Swedebros, your currency might be saved.

[Anonymous No.56158484]

>>56158412
Markets going up is inevitable

[Anonymous No.56158490]

>>56158466
No.

[Anonymous No.56158493]

>>56158451
Riksbank Cuts Currency Risk In Foreign Exchange Reserves
- To Hedge FX Reserves By Selling $8B, EU2B For SEK
- Currency Hedging Will Begin On 25 Sept

[Anonymous No.56158496]

>>56158466
>STOP SELLING YOU CUNTS
>It's already at -0.4%, if this continues we might actually have a -1% red day, THIS is it, THIS is the end for the stock market

[Anonymous No.56158498]

>RH poster
>4 figure poster
>5 figure poster
Do any of you anons actually make money? Besides myself, Scoops, and Poem anon, I haven't seen any real accounts posted here. Do you anons at least put the yearly max into your 401ks and IRAs? Does anyone else actually have portfolio margin? I love you anons but this is getting ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.56158503]

>>56158462
I think she's cute too, my sweet anon :).
>>56158465
"tries" being the key word here. I honestly think these EU countries have given up on themselves. Riksbanken holds majority of its assets in dollars and euro so their assets have substantially increased in value. Also, most of the assets in Sweden are in the form of real estate. Riksbanken also majorly failed there.
They are such smug cunts about the currency and the rate hikes. They just wrote that "our rate hikes have substantially contributed to a lower inflation". That is just plainly wrong. The official statistics show that the only part of the inflation to go down is electricity prices (the largest part of inflation). These bureaucrats sure love patting themselves on the back for doing nothing and watching their salaries keep rising while the rest of the country is on fire
And of course the stock market took this rate hike in a positive way and pumped slightly

[Anonymous No.56158510]

>>56158498
I've got 5 figures, at work right now, loving Lum, and I've got nice gains (150kg bench for 5 reps). It ain't much and I am trying to learn but I really do suck at taking profits. I always think it could go up and then it immediately dumps. I've had some luck with scalping if I take immediate profits but often I get too greedy and lose.
I also need to get better at sticking to trends. We are all here to learn from the best, my boy :)

[Anonymous No.56158513]

>>56158503
If I made an onlyfans of pictures and videos of shoving lum dolls up different prostitutes asses and making them read weekly highlights of /smg/ posts would you guys end up liking and subscribing?

[Anonymous No.56158517]

>>56158496

[Anonymous No.56158519]

>>56158513
That could work if it weren't for the janitorial staff.

[Anonymous No.56158526]

>>56158519
I can't believe they do it for free.

[Anonymous No.56158535]

>>56158493
They wait all this time to sell at the top. SOBs... truly.
>>56158513
Some people managed to sell bathwater. Considering that, I believe you won't have a problem finding an audience.

[Anonymous No.56158540]

fucking image server is bricked again

[Anonymous No.56158549]

>>56158535
But they are selling EUR and USD for SEK. Which means they are buying SEK cheap or am I wrong?

[Anonymous No.56158555]

>>56158540
Works fine for me, haven't had a problem.

[Anonymous No.56158559]

>>56158412
>>56158484
Bullchads.......we have to make bobo pay

[Anonymous No.56158565]

>Poland Refuses To Send More Weapons To Ukraine As Trade Dispute Escalates - FT
LITERAL GENOCIDE

[Anonymous No.56158566]

>>56158549
Right now they are obtaining more SEK for their dollars and euro. So when SEK eventually starts to strengthen, their newly obtained SEK will have more value.
That is their reasoning. They believe that SEK will return to its former glory. The official story states that "were the SEK return to 2022 values or higher, we would lose about 80B worth of SEK since our dollars and euro would devaluate". Truly, you won't find a worse and more backstabbing bunch than bureaucrats.

[Anonymous No.56158595]

>>56158566
SEK depreceating again. It's over.

[Anonymous No.56158656]

short tech

[Anonymous No.56158669]

>Swedish stockmarket

[Anonymous No.56158681]

>GOOGLE MULLS DROPPING BROADCOM AS AI CHIP SUPPLIER - INFORMATION.
Uh oh stinky

[Anonymous No.56158685]

>>56158681
Fuckin finally a drop. Goddamn I dropped the ball on this one completely. My mum bought it at 300 and has been enjoying her stable gainz while I've been seething.
Broadcom is very underrated but also flying kinda low under the radar, especially here. Great stock

[Anonymous No.56158695]

>>56158031
> but im still green ytd

Kek

[Anonymous No.56158696]

>>56158685
>>56158681
>3 years virtually flat
>Corona happens
>4x
Lol. Lmao even

[Anonymous No.56158706]

>>56158430
uh oh, did 4M increase again?

[Anonymous No.56158718]

>>56158706
Yes.

[Anonymous No.56158722]

>will get stopped out of my oil long at open
>>56158256 is right regarding the generals
Fuck me that's 5k down the drain

[Anonymous No.56158737]

>>56157888
Oil support at Brent $90

[Anonymous No.56158748]

>>56158685
>Google dropping Broadcom makes him want to buy it

[Anonymous No.56158757]

>YIELDS COMPUTER

[Anonymous No.56158758]

>>56158033
Clinton’s surplus was created by spending social security cash and replacing it with debt.

[Anonymous No.56158780]

>Riksbank Chief Thedeen: Relatively High Probability That We Need To Raise Rates Again
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO, GO SWEDEN!

[Anonymous No.56158787]

bobo!!!

[Anonymous No.56158796]

I came this analysis of a bear case for TSLA but upon further inspection the writer was just an Elon hater so probably biased.

Is there a case for it?

[Anonymous No.56158797]

>Member of the European Central Bank (ECB) Governing Council and Deutsche Bundesbank (Buba) President Joachim Nagel remarked on Thursday that the latter institution expects 2024 will see Germany's economy resume growth and core inflation go "noticeably weaker."

2024 bullrun confirmed

[Anonymous No.56158801]

WHEN I SAY GREAT,
YOU SAY DEPRESSION!!!
>GREAT!!!

[Anonymous No.56158805]

>Amazon gives Alexa an AI facelift

uhm isn't this how "I have no mouth and I must scream" kinda started? Anyway I might pump AMZN stocks.

[Anonymous No.56158813]

Ukraine getting dumped like the fat girl at prom who stinks. When do I get to invest in russia again?

[Anonymous No.56158819]

>>56158813
Is Poland cockblocking a bearish or bullish thing? I might dip into Polish stocks.

[Anonymous No.56158824]

>>56158813
My broker tried again yesterday to get me to sell my Nornickel ADRs.

[Anonymous No.56158826]

>>56158797
Bundesbank recently made some retarded statement. I forgot what it was about but I know it was stupid.

Also:
>ECB’s Nagel Says Too Soon to Declare Rates Have Reached Plateau - BBG

One further step might be possible. It's funny how they suddenly turn more hawkish the higher they go. Like markets and their mania rallyes

[Anonymous No.56158827]

>>56158819
central europe is fucked even more than western europe

[Anonymous No.56158834]

Listen haiti has no military to speak of. Just gangs. We could overthrow the country and start collecting real gains by hunan trafficking all the black people out.

[Anonymous No.56158836]

>>56158834
>haha human trafficking
>haha so funny
Not sure if you are US or albanian

[Anonymous No.56158849]

>>56158805
I think that Sailor Moon draw was the last time the internet had and will ever have fun.

[Anonymous No.56158854]

WTF IS GOING DOWN NOW? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

BIDENOMICS NEVER VOTING FOR YOU

[Anonymous No.56158855]

schizos won, troons lost

[Anonymous No.56158857]

>>56158836
Too many failed states in the world as is.

[Anonymous No.56158861]

>>56157884
>unsustainable debt levels, auto, student, credit, personal, mortgage
>extreme housing bubble, all time high 30%+ income on housing
>consumer is broke, no savings by October
>inflation is spiking higher, no more base effects
>interest rates higher for longer; more zombie company failures, lower growth, more bank failures if 10yr approaches 4.5%
>complete collapse in global trade, each month countries report doing 10% less exports from the previous month
>China recession
>EU recession
>dollar rising
>earnings collapse for 3 consecutive quarters
>1.73 standard deviations wilshire 5k ratio; 50% more bubble than dotcom peak
>**20x forward multiple** on S&P500 earnings (this is very expensive, going into a recession)
>earnings margin collapse, profit margin collapse market wide three consecutive quarters
>only in nominal terms are things "rosy"
>spiking delinquencies / defaults on all forms of credit
>new housing construction falling during strong summer months, in spite of strong demand
>more corporate bankruptcies this year than any other previous by this time of year
>yield curve inversion + uninversion in future
>130% debt to GDP
>$1 trillion in debt service
>other nations dropping dollars for trade, petrodollar is kill
>PMI / ISM collapse
>new orders / backlog of orders collapse
>commodity prices rising sharply (inflationary)
>consumer is kill, and will be even more kill in the Autumn
>crowding out effect from Janet Yellen issuance backlog
>Japan ending / lifting YCC, carry trade unwind
>ECB more dovish = dollar rise
>yields rising
>all time high paycheck to paycheck before student loan repayment resumes
>underwater autoloans
>collapsing commercial real estate value 60%+ value haircuts
>deposit outflows, commercial real estate collapse, inverted yield curve crushing banks - solvency banking crisis looms
>EU PMI collapse
>Fed liquidity vs S&P500 divergence
>US credit downgrade
>smart money vs dumb money divergence
>US regional bank downgrades

[Anonymous No.56158866]

>>56158861
<3

[Anonymous No.56158868]

Banks have to be shitting bricks seeing long term treasuries yields dildos.

[Anonymous No.56158876]

>>56158048
Oh I'm long energy already don't you worry. But fertilizer is a longer term long that I want to have a part of. It's no gamble really, more people = more demand for food = more demand for fertilizer. Can't get much simpler than that.

[Anonymous No.56158878]

>>56158868
For me, it's Janet "The Goyim Destroyer" Yellen.

[Anonymous No.56158894]

>>56158876
>more people =more demand for food = more demand for fertilizer if there is more land for more/further cultivation

[Anonymous No.56158904]

>>56158430
Imagine the smell.

[Anonymous No.56158920]

>>56158868
kek if they're afraid of that, imagine how much worse if the FED actually had balls and did a surprise hike earlier this week

[Anonymous No.56158925]

>SPX broke MA 100 daily
>Dow Jones 20 poins above it

[Anonymous No.56158928]

Your entire economic system is about to collapse and you're laughing?

[Anonymous No.56158930]

So let me get you a summary of yesterday, for those who couldn't make it for Jay talk
>Yellen said a few days ago to be confident to get a softlanding.
Yesterday that nigger asked Jay is the soft landing was a "baseline"
>"No"
So obviously all the analysts, JPmorgan niggers and whatnot got rekt in their prediction

If they had been only light reaction to the speech, we would have ended flat, as the puts would have been chased by the algo. We ended deep red, so we finna go down the next few weeks.
Also to that nigger who told me that the VIX was gonna be suppressed until Jpow is fucking wrong as my VIX calls are printing like mad
long the vix fellas

[Anonymous No.56158931]

>>56158928
häähähäh

[Anonymous No.56158932]

>>56158894
One way or another, the people will get fed. One way or another, the fertilizers remain in demand. If that means cutting down millions of acres of rainforest in Brazil or whatever so be it.

[Anonymous No.56158937]

>>56158928
Tears can come later

[Anonymous No.56158939]

>>56158932
Lula appears to be based do whatever is nessecary to improve the real economy. Bolsonaro was just like trump a cuck who couldnt make the government kneel. But no one has the balls of bukele.

[Anonymous No.56158940]

>>56157936
More time to accumulate.
It's gonna be grand.

[Anonymous No.56158943]

Oil bros... its over.

[Anonymous No.56158944]

>>56157972
Buy every dip.
Like, always.

[Anonymous No.56158946]

I just buy oil

[Anonymous No.56158948]

>>56158796
tsla can be a fantastic company with high quality products at enviable prices with an expansive loyal customer base and the stock can still get hammered because equities are inherently volatile and more responsive to monetary policy

[Anonymous No.56158950]

>>56158932
>one way or another, the people will get fed.

Are you including Africa?

[Anonymous No.56158949]

>>56158928
>About to collapse

nah, that won't be until next year. 2008 wasn't an immediate crash and burn, shit takes years for that kind of bubble to burst.

[Anonymous No.56158954]

>>56158904
indeed

[Anonymous No.56158955]

>Buy every dip.

[Anonymous No.56158956]

>>56158205
Dollar shortage. The Fed will have rates at zero in 12 months.

[Anonymous No.56158958]

>>56158950
of course. Africa also has fertile ground for farmland btw

[Anonymous No.56158967]

>>56158956
>Dollar shortage. The Fed will have rates at zero in 12 months.
WSJ reported that due to the interest rate, builders can't secure loans to build more homes. Result? Home prices keep going up because of the supply shortage. This is the real power of central banking - fight inflation by making things more expensive. Peak keynesianism. These FFR numbers aren't sustainable.

[Anonymous No.56158973]

Its so funny that even though 99% predicted a pause, markets are shitting anyway. Like, what do you idiots even want?

>>56158954
god I wish I was tiny and she smothers me inside of her stocking with her big toe

[Anonymous No.56158975]

>>56158948
Tsla is amazingly disruptive with shit like gigapressing their chargers, etc that allowed them to aggeessively cut prices but evs will always be a scam and cause significant grid based issues. Electricity to power them isnt even that much cheaper than oil once you account for fuel taxes etc. ICE vehicles weigh significantly less. Require less polluting materials. Etc. EVs make sense once electricity is functionally free from things like fusion reactors.

[Anonymous No.56158984]

>>56158973
He also repeated higher for longer. Again. To room wide kvetching. But he also mentioned the word recession and said it a likely outcome.

[Anonymous No.56158988]

the vix is rising my basterds

[Anonymous No.56158992]

>>56158975
i agree, i'm just elaborating the fact that bull/bear theses don't require more complexity other than
>huurrr stock go up/down
high prices brings out buyers, low prices bring out sellers

[Anonymous No.56158997]

>>56158967
Cant afford a house? Don't buy one. no one buys it? house prices goes down. House prices goes down? Interest rates go down.

Problem solves itsefl.

[Anonymous No.56159000]

>>56158984
Just bring on the depression already and get it over with, normies are getting tapped out with cheap shit like fast food right now. Imagine maxing out credit cards on fucking groceries, can't imagine how they would handle student loans coming back in October.

[Anonymous No.56159001]

>>56158984
we're already in a recession even if the definition was changed by the boomers in charge to control the narrative

[Anonymous No.56159002]

vix futures is such a scam omg
first expieres then just runs up so you cant enter again

[Anonymous No.56159014]

>>56158997
>Cant afford a house? Don't buy one. no one buys it? house prices goes down. House prices goes down? Interest rates go down.
This is correct if the average dumbfuck normie follows your advice. Population is still growing and there is still demand for new housing. Growing population + supply crunch = higher prices. Add to this the increase in non-fixed mortgage rates and hence the increase in rent. This is a disaster in making.

[Anonymous No.56159016]

EU PUMP NOW YOU PIECE OF SHIT

[Anonymous No.56159023]

>>56159016
the way to go long EU is to go long energy because yuropeans love paying extra for it

[Anonymous No.56159025]

>>56159014
Don't follow normies. Everyone ait my work has bought 1 million dollar AUD houses in the last 5 years with 800K loans on 3-4% variable interest rate, that is rising. If house prices fall by as little as 10% they are bankrupt. Normies will get slaughtered cause they didn't want to miss out ... how many times has this happened in the past.

There are plenty of empty apartments that the Chinks will gladly sell and flood the market when prices start falling.

[Anonymous No.56159033]

>>56159025
800k loans? wtf really?

[Anonymous No.56159034]

>>56159023
Not gonna go long EU for months if not years. I just want to reshort. lol

[Anonymous No.56159036]

>>56159025
Why would they be bankrupt? You mean net negative because the house lost in value?

[Anonymous No.56159037]

>>56159034
thta's why you go long energy

[Anonymous No.56159047]

>>56159036
negative equity

[Anonymous No.56159050]

>americans soon wake up to see S&P in ruins

>>56159037
Or just short EU cause holding shorts pays interest with my broker. Easy. Today it will increase because of last week's hike. I hope they hike once more.

[Anonymous No.56159057]

>>56159036
Underwater. Loan to Value Ration = less than 1. Bankrupt in the sense you want to blow your brains out cause the house you bout is about to be worth less than the loan you took out which will take another 45 years to repay. In my counrty you cant just leave the house whenever you want ... you stay till you sell of pay it off or go bankrupt.

You either sell now and save yourself or hope that the Chinese's come back and start buying property again.

[Anonymous No.56159060]

>>56159050
You get paid interest for shorting? Usually it's the other way around since you are borrowing shares

[Anonymous No.56159072]

>>56159023
You get paid for using electricity a lot of the times in Sweden since the price is negative... it is crazy how much it swings. Such instability. How is that even possible? Still, electricity prices are falling world wide, leading to a great reduction in inflation. But the problem with that is that electricty prices can't really continue falling. Already they are stagnating at low levels, meaning that the reduction of inflation will also pause.
Every other category of the inflation keeps going up. Once electricity prices stop dropping, inflation will pick up again, especially with oil and gas this high.
I am still bullish though

[Anonymous No.56159076]

>鏖

its over

https://twitter.com/demk0814/status/1704671895709454379

[Anonymous No.56159082]

HIGHER

FOR

LONGER

[Anonymous No.56159090]

>>56159060
short selling a stock delivers cash, which receives interest based on deposit rates, usually around 5% these days, most stocks have borrow fees < cash rates

[Anonymous No.56159099]

>futures

[Anonymous No.56159105]

There has been a rotation into the safety trade this month, as seen here on the RS lines, some of which are starting to rise above the 50EMA lines.

[Anonymous No.56159106]

>>56159060
This is from yesterday, 4,05 Euros per night for about 12k margin. That's like 14% interest if you'd put it into a bank, I think.

[Anonymous No.56159108]

Good morning SIRS, will we see a nice bounce today ? We're down over 3% over the last few sessions, surely there are enough dip slurpers out there

[Anonymous No.56159111]

>>56159108
more like slip durpers

[Anonymous No.56159114]

>>56159108
I think now is the perfect time to buy right at this very moment. You literally can not go wrong going all in.

[Anonymous No.56159127]

BANK OF ENGLAND DID NOT RAISE RATES

[Anonymous No.56159128]

>>56158175
based Tooker appreciator.

[Anonymous No.56159145]

>Turkish Central Bank Hikes Rates 500Bps To 30.00%; As Expected

That's what Powell should have done.
And they have a woman as chief.

[Anonymous No.56159149]

>>56159145
also 1 dollar is worth 27 lira lmao

[Anonymous No.56159157]

Want to start a business. First thing I need is a loan. Prime is currently 8.5%. Bank says I’m not too much of a risk and offer me prime plus 1.25. Now at 9.75% or roughly 10%. This is how business loans work. Mfw people are arguing over 5% interest on t bills thinking that’s the rate people are getting worked up about. Buy Tesla.

[Anonymous No.56159158]

>muh soft landing
>muh no landing
>muh ai
>muh disinflation
>muh resilient economy
>muh strong consumer
>muh priced in

[Anonymous No.56159161]

>>56158930
Bet
>fr fr no cap

[Anonymous No.56159167]

>>56159158
October is gonna be fun kek

[Anonymous No.56159170]

September 21 2023
Doomsday

[Anonymous No.56159179]

WHO SODOMIZED THE MARKETS ?

[Anonymous No.56159186]

>futures

[Anonymous No.56159190]

One of the first stocks I bought was FVAL, a Fidelity-managed ETF. I bought it because I have a Fidelity account through my employer and I figured they must know what they're doing.

It's been in the red ever since, and only recently has it gone green. Should I dump it now to take profit, or hold and hope it keeps going well? I basically know nothing and just buy big-name ETFs.

[Anonymous No.56159202]

>>56157880
schiff is only good for macro interpretation.

don't ever listen to his investment advice.

buying gold was the stupidest move in last decade

[Anonymous No.56159204]

>>56159167
Oh I forgot the latest mumu smash hit
>muh short and shallow recession
lmao

[Anonymous No.56159219]

Holy shit, this thread sucks. I'm out.

[TOTAL SIMP DEATH No.56159222]

>>56158861
^

[Anonymous No.56159227]

I really hate old people like if you're over 40 you can miss me with anything you have to say

[Anonymous No.56159231]

>>56159190
It's basically just a S&P 500 index, but it has an expense ratio of 0.3% instead of SPY's 0.095%. I'm sure you can find one for even cheaper that does the same job.

[Anonymous No.56159232]

>>56159219
get fucked permabull

[Anonymous No.56159239]

>>56159179
She really does have an unfortunate looking bone structure

[Anonymous No.56159240]

>>56159127
That's the sign. Its over Bulls-bros

[Anonymous No.56159257]

rejoice bongs, inflation back to 10% by q1 24

[Anonymous No.56159259]

I THOUGHT YOU SAID FOMC WAS BULLISH.

wTF

[Anonymous No.56159261]

well its not looking good but that is my thing. i put in a large buy order. about 20k worth. part of my strategy is to buy on weakness when bears start to flood in and everyone is screaming sell. i tend to be early with my entries though. i planned to buy in sept/oct regardless, so i'll probably buy next month again. then try buy the bottom of every quarter after that. im up 60% ytd make of that as you will

[Anonymous No.56159266]

>>56159076
What asset is that?
If we was born in the west he would be in theses threads with us

Pic related

[Anonymous No.56159268]

Newfag here. If the Republicans shut the government down is that it? Like once it's shut down how can we possibly start it back up from scratch? Why isn't this being taken more seriously?

[Anonymous No.56159277]

>>56159268
Gov employees already get like 200 days pto for Federal Holidays

[Anonymous No.56159280]

>>56159268
government has been shut down several times in the past before

[Anonymous No.56159282]

>>56159268
The problem is that the interest on the debt is exploding with gibs. But if they try and force a shutdown to tighten the budget then America will get yet another downgrade

[Anonymous No.56159285]

>>56159266
*he

[Anonymous No.56159287]

>>56159268
You have to be 18 to post here

[Anonymous No.56159292]

>>56159268
If Biden wants a re-election, shouldn't Jerome Powel pump the stock market to a new ATH ?

[Anonymous No.56159291]

>>56159261
>>56158031

[Anonymous No.56159293]

>>56159268
It's a moot point because a majority of republicans now days are RINO's that are part of the establishment and will fold at the last minute. The national debt is so out of control that they might as well crash the ship instead of trying to fix it which is what they're going to do

[Anonymous No.56159298]

>>56159282
Wait but if government employees get paid for not working during the shut down isn't that just like giving them welfare without any work requirements? It's like the opposite of what they want.

[Anonymous No.56159307]

>>56159268
happens often. it's a nothing burger really. if this time is "different" it will take months to find out.

[Anonymous No.56159309]

>>56159292
I mean thats what he's doing by pausing rates while inflation is increasing again. The whole reason we got here with inflation being this bad is because Powell waited a fucking year coping for biden
>>56159298
They don't want a shutdown, they want to change the budget going forward. The shutdown is caused by the democrats going "lol no, free gibs is how we get elected" and a deadlock. Republicans have to deadlock it if they think it'll politically work for them

and neither side understands nor cares how it effects the economy and debt

[Anonymous No.56159323]

>>56159292
Biden doesn't know or care rather he's running again. They want him to run again so if he wins he can bail out mid term and give Kamala the presidency which would literally be rock bottom for the US historically

[Anonymous No.56159327]

>>56159309
So basically he failed his task. We're dropping like a brick and Trump is gaining popularity.

[Anonymous No.56159339]

>>56159327
Jerome is loyal to nobody, he only embraces chaos

[Anonymous No.56159348]

>>56159339
>]
What if he's rooting for trump ,secretly? lmao?

[Anonymous No.56159354]

>>56159309
As C02 follows temperature, it appears the Fed rate follows the CPI.

[Anonymous No.56159358]

When do I go long?

[Anonymous No.56159362]

where's the retard who a few weeks ago said buy tlt and tmf?

[Anonymous No.56159363]

>>56158115
what do you mean? that's a perfectly normal yield curve

[Anonymous No.56159374]

Fuck it. I'm going to jenna post and bring back the good days.

[Anonymous No.56159375]

ive got a buy the dip mentality today

[Anonymous No.56159377]

>>56159309
>They don't want a shutdown
That's not what they just said on Morning Joe.

[Anonymous No.56159383]

>>56159363
aww he's smiling

[Anonymous No.56159384]

>>56159377
>Morning Joe.

[Anonymous No.56159385]

>>56159190
>this is your competition

[Anonymous No.56159394]

oh great I forgot around this time of the year we have the /pol/ zoomer tourists who are here for this first 'shutdown'

[Anonymous No.56159396]

>>56159385
Nothing is better than the faggots who bought tips etfs and then complained about the etf losing value

[Anonymous No.56159413]

>BoE pauses
>British pound is taking a pounding
I guess it makes sense for them to pause since they are already getting hugely fugged by everything else. Good luck getting rid of the inflation though.
Oh wait I forgot, they desire a high inflation :). Oh how the mighty have fallen. When I was young, everyone always looked up to the Great Britain as some sort of infallible empire...

[Anonymous No.56159422]

Surely this is sustainable

[Anonymous No.56159425]

>>56159422
divide by CPI

[Anonymous No.56159426]

>>56159413
GB wasn't an infallible empire since the 1930s how fucking old are you

[Anonymous No.56159428]

>>56159413
British are massively fucked because of their pension system. Unlike in America where we got that convenient rate hike during trump's presidency, in Britain they've had 0% rates since 2010. 13 years of British pensions and retirement bonds going into "safe bonds" that are now fucking worthless because of the rate hikes

it's a genuinely surprisingly side effect of quantitative easing that no one thought about. Our financial retirement system is built on bonds and we spurred our economy by making them worse-less

[Anonymous No.56159431]

>>56159425
why don't you, retard

[Anonymous No.56159433]

if you stay in cash inflation will keep going up and you will lose your purchasing power. it doesn't matter what the fed says

[Anonymous No.56159435]

>>56159431
Calm your tits autist, fucking sperg lmao

[Anonymous No.56159441]

>>56159433
i'd just swap out cash for tips honestly
SCHP is what I used to hold, entire tips market giving over 2% yield and then whatever inflation is

[Anonymous No.56159444]

>>56159413
>When I was young, everyone always looked up to the Great Britain as some sort of infallible empire...
Nigga u wot, the British Empire was formally dissolved in 1999, was seen as a lesser power compared to the US and USSR after 1956, and was known to be in terminal decline starting in the 1930s. Yeah they had a good economy in the 90s and 00s but you'd have to be like 100 years old to remember when they were seen as infallible.

[Anonymous No.56159445]

is spx going doing today?

[Anonymous No.56159447]

>>56159227
Gay

[Anonymous No.56159451]

>>56159363
total shitbull anihilation NOW.

[Anonymous No.56159452]

>>56159435
no argument, unable to do basic math

[Anonymous No.56159453]

>>56159422
1080 was still the best card ever made. i still have one and its working. use a 3060 atm though

[Anonymous No.56159456]

>>56159422
Surely I'm going to pay +1k for a graphics card to play garbage games, KEK.

Halls of Torment, Civ 5, these are games. Games that run with intel pentium 4th generation with onboard (like my PC for 60 Euros)

[Anonymous No.56159458]

just fuck my shit up JEROME

[Anonymous No.56159459]

Mumu. It's over.
Remember how on July 27th I told you that the fundamentals for shorting the dollar collapsed after ECB waved the white flag?
Now BOE just waved white flag, too. Pound is only 11.9% of DXY weight, compared to Euro at 57.6% weighting; however, it is still another straw piled on the camels' back to make the dollar continue to rise.
This is the situation we are currently in:
>Eurozone economy collapsing
>ECB forced to prioritize economy over inflation, even though inflation is still extremely bad
>UK economy collapsing
>BOE forced to prioritize economy over inflation, even though inflation is still extremely bad
"Oh but the US economy is so strong!'
This is bearish, when you account for the above. The stronger the US economy is, the less the Fed will have to prioritize the economy over inflation - AKA - the Fed will continue to raise and/or hold interest rates higher for longer.
Why does this matter?
Currencies move based upon interest rates, and the differences between interest rates of other countries. If ECB is not raising more and/or cutting sooner PLUS BOE not raising more and/or cutting sooner, US bonds are much, much more attractive than theirs. This makes the demand for US bonds rise relative to theirs. In order to buy US bonds, they must sell their currency and buy dollars. Demand for dollars increases. This makes the DXY rise - which, in combination with rising yields, is extremely bearish for the market.
>Now you know
If you are long, you are unironically fighting against the entire world, fighting against the bond market, fighting against the currency markets.
Don't fight the crowd.

[Anonymous No.56159467]

>>56159161
Since I post it, my UVXY is up 3% more

[Anonymous No.56159469]

>>56159459
a lot of that is true but at the end of the day the fed has TO RAISE THE INTEREST RATE. they won't do it. they are trying to TALK DOWN inflation. they wont WALK THE WALK

[Anonymous No.56159475]

Will the "You bought calls right?" anon ever apologize for creating so many baggies?

[Anonymous No.56159477]

OUTTA MY WAY MUMU FUCKING SHITS

[Anonymous No.56159479]

am i a good trader if i turned 60 dollas in 150??

[Anonymous No.56159483]

>>56159469
that's the thing, even if they don't continue to raise, the dollar will still appreciate relative to the euro, to the pound
the Fed would literally have to be more pussyfooted than ECB/BOE in order for dollar to fall. Fed would need to be even more dovish than they are. Fed cannot do this.
It's all relative - in other words, if ECB/BOE is cutting, but US is pausing, dollar will continue to rise
It doesn't matter if Fed doesn't raise again, if others start to cut before the Fed (or even just signaling that they will) - dollar will still rise

[Anonymous No.56159484]

>>56159475
Yesterday he made a post where he was trying to claim that he'd been posting here for less than two months, even though the archives show him posting here for months before that. So no, he's going to lie.

[Anonymous No.56159488]

>>56159479
Depends how many trades it took. If it's one maybe you just got lucky and used unreasonable leverage, if it's 10 trades and at least 7 of them ended up green then that's good.

[Anonymous No.56159492]

>>56159483
The big problem is dedollarization. The rise of the dollar, and all the geo political bullshit happening, is forcing countries to use their own currency more. We're down to only 58% of the global bank reserves being the dollar and that doesn't even include gold

[Anonymous No.56159495]

>>56159484
He was claiming he hadn't been posting in two months, and the archives showed her never stopped posting the same picture.

[Anonymous No.56159498]

>>56159483
both the dollar and the euro will go down as commodities and wages continue to go up because the current rate is not restrictive as the economy + inflation are both still growing. real bobo's understand this

[Anonymous No.56159503]

VIX 16
>VIX 16
VIX 16
>VIX 16
VIX 16
>VIX 16
VIX 16
>VIX 16
it was 13 just before Jpow dropped the "Woah"

[Anonymous No.56159505]

having the morning coffee, futures never stopped

[Anonymous No.56159520]

>>56159475

What do you mean? He wasn't there for months
(lol)

[Anonymous No.56159522]

>>56159488

[Anonymous No.56159524]

>>56159456
My gaming pc cost me 300 bucks in 2010
I play dota once in a blue moon
Games are crappy preachy movies now. I’d rather replay 30 yo old games than shit they make today

[Anonymous No.56159531]

>>56159498
Buddy.
No.
We are talking about relative strength - how many euros you can buy with how many dollars - how many pounds you can buy with how many dollars.
Lol.
If euro goes down = dollar (relative strength) goes up
You don't get both at the same time.
We're not talking about the total decrease in purchasing power that all currencies will have.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, that this is what you meant.. but based upon your post, 99.99% chance you're genuinely retarded, for not understanding relative strength vs absolute strength

[Anonymous No.56159537]

>>56159524
Dota I too played back in 2012-2014. The games I mentioned are games I lately played a little on said computer.

[Anonymous No.56159542]

What's this talk about Iran?
Is the US government planning to rug oil bulls?

[Anonymous No.56159554]

>>56159114
You telling me now is the time to slurp some T-bonds?

[Anonymous No.56159560]

I've been holding $34k of SQQQ since May LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (it's not worth $34k anymore)

[Anonymous No.56159568]

>>56159433
just put all your cash in MMF until they start to cut rates you literally can't lose

[Anonymous No.56159569]

>>56159531
if oil goes up = inflation goes up = dollar and euro goes down
if nat gas goes up = inflation goes up = dollar and euro goes down
if copper goes up = inflation goes up = dollar and euro goes down
if wheat goes up = inflation goes up = dollar and euro goes down
if wages goes up = inflation goes up = dollar and euro goes down
etc.
and if the fed simply holds the rate at its current, non restrictive level, all of those things will continue to go up. the peak rate is double digits. the fed is still signaling CUTS NEXT YEAR. Inflation is GOING NOWHERE if they just HOLD.

[Anonymous No.56159580]

We'll see where the 10y closes today, but it looks like a big breakout right now. Next stop 5.2%

[Anonymous No.56159581]

>>56159492
I would love to see BRICS try for a Bretton Woods 2.0 system. If you think China is actually going to exchange Yuan for real gold with the other BRICS countries, I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn

[Anonymous No.56159582]

>>56159569
Inflation is going to fall, simply because it is bullshit y/y magictrick.

Because of that Oil CPI will fall in October+November if Oil stays here. On the other should Oil stay here or go higher December + January CPI will be kill.

[Anonymous No.56159587]

>>56159413
if only you knew how bad things really are

[Anonymous No.56159592]

hold up there Mr. market. JP Morgan told me there wasn't going to be a recession and I know you aren't smarter than JP Morgan

[Anonymous No.56159604]

Really, one has to be really stupid to do IPO in September. It's like people doesn't account for seasonality. Now ARM and CART are going to get rekt so hard

[Anonymous No.56159609]

>>56159433
Not taking my cash from out under my mattress until after the multiple bank failures, thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.56159610]

>>56159000
>fast food right now
>cheap
Only the zoomest of zooms could "think" this.

[Anonymous No.56159617]

>>56159569
if oil goes up = inflation goes up = dollar and euro goes down
No buddy. No. This is wrong on so many levels. Your understanding is totally wrong / opposite. I will try to help you.
When oil goes up, it makes the dollar go up - it wouldn't have 50 years ago - but now, the US is major, major oil exporter. Oil (and other commodities) are traded in dollars. When the price of oil goes up, other nations need to sell their currencies and buy dollars.
Think about it like this:
You need to buy 1,000 barrels of oil at $90 a barrel
OR
You need to buy 1,000 barrels of oil at $60 a barrel
which requires you more dollars, to buy the same oil? Obviously when it's at $90 a barrel - $90,000 needed (compared to $60,000 needed)
They need MORE dollars in order to buy the same oil - if you have to buy more dollars, while supply stays the same, the dollar appreciates relative to their currency.
This is the same dynamic that takes place in Canada for oil (as demand for Loonie increases) or for Australia when copper goes up in price (as demand for Australian dollar to buy all the copper increases)
>inflation goes up dollar goes down
NO. This is the key concept that you need to understand. When inflation goes up, it requires more aggressive monetary policy, either raising interest rates higher, or keeping them higher (for longer) -- when interest rates go up on US bonds, and the interest rates fall on EU bonds, it makes US bonds more attractive than EU bonds - this causes flows where EU needs to sell their euros in order to buy dollars - demand for dollars rises relative to euros, the euro depreciates, the dollar gains
Again, we are talking about RELATIVE STRENGTH
Inflation moving higher = dollar moves higher RELATIVE to other currencies

[Anonymous No.56159632]

>>56159362
Who's the bigger retard, the retard, or the retard who listens to him?

[Anonymous No.56159642]

Casual US premarket EU nuke.

[Anonymous No.56159662]

>>56157874
>Rolled my put win into SOXL yesterday thinking it was just a short stop along the way
>now I'm back to being in the loss
i hate the market bros

[Anonymous No.56159670]

>>56159642
FINALLY

[Anonymous No.56159671]

>vix 15% in less than 24h
I can't get so erect

[Anonymous No.56159692]

>201k

That's good right? why dump?

[Anonymous No.56159706]

>>56159692
https://www.forexlive.com/news/philadelphia-fed-september-manufacturing-index-135-vs-07-estimate-20230921/
>-0.7 expected, actual -13.5
>New orders -10.2 versus 16.0 last month
>Prices paid 25.7 versus 20.8 last month
even with a huge collapse, huge miss - manufacturing absolutely in the shitter, prices paid STILL moved higher (which is insane, and indicative of how bad / how sticky inflation still is)

[Anonymous No.56159710]

>>56159706
Could this be...

[Anonymous No.56159725]

IS IT TOO LATE TO BUY META PUTS????

[Anonymous No.56159729]

>>56159227
What about 39 my figgah

[Anonymous No.56159744]

>>56159475
No he is a faggot and almost 0% of people take responsibility for their actions in the age of faggots.

[Anonymous No.56159747]

so why is S&P 500 futures down 1% right now?

What changed in the market between 4:00 yesterday and right now?

pls explain

[Anonymous No.56159753]

>>56159747
Elliot wave 3 happened.

[Anonymous No.56159754]

>>56159747
nothing,pure manipulation

[Anonymous No.56159756]

>>56159747
see >>56159580
Massive bond dump for one.

[Anonymous No.56159759]

Sentiment
It’s over
If you can take profits, take them
If you can’t.. Wall Street thanks you for your liquidity

[Anonymous No.56159769]

>>56159747
buddy. look at the yields.
https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/bond/tmubmusd10y?countrycode=bx
literally new 16 year all time high - hasn't been this high since 2007

[Anonymous No.56159774]

>>56159771
>>56159771
>>56159771
new
>>56159771
>>56159771
>>56159771
new

[Anonymous No.56159776]

>>56159587
You’re better off starting a YT documenting to decaying high streets of Britain than open a shop. It was just getting by then they killed it with covid. Those that survive get stolen from. The BE actually thought letting in third world immigrants would lower wage inflation when most are on beanies (compounding the boomer problem), selling drugs or open takeaways no one can afford anymore.

[Anonymous No.56159792]

>>56159459
don't be silly anon. Both the dollar and the US economy can be strong. The entire world is gladly lapping up US equities and bonds because they are denominated in dollars. That one fact alone is reason to remain bullish, even if in the longer term a strong currency is bearish

[Anonymous No.56159797]

>>56159475
You mean putscuck?
He's a legit and self admitted r3ddit shill, he's open about supporting Jewkraine, Biden, LGBT, and other globohomo shit.
People like him probably get a kick out of fucking over newfags.

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