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It Don't Go Down Edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://tradingeconomics.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates

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>>55770733

>> No.55772551
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Bondbros, where did we go wrong?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wrsZog8qXg

>> No.55772571
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BOIL
>BOIL
BOIL

>> No.55772573

Posted at the end of last thread, but does anyone have that picture of the pajeet touching some white woman in a club while taking a picture and she looks really creeped out?

>> No.55772574

>>55772545

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>>55772551
They haven't cut rates yet anon, it's a cut play not a hike play, and looks like we got one more hike coming.

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I am financially bored

>> No.55772586

MULN is going parabolic in approximately 48 hours. bear repellant is on order. load up.

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>>55772573

>> No.55772593

where's the lunchtime dump??? i don't wanna leave my shorts open with PLTR earnings incoming

>> No.55772607 [DELETED] 
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55772607

Reddit is better than this website by miles.

The upvote system lets you see the best content first and filters out the rest.

Plus Reddit lets you sort comments by popularity, that way I'm always guaranteed to see nothing but the best content, as chosen by the community.

Here's it's just "first come first serve" like some disgusting rural cafeteria. I want my web content catered and curated, thank you very much.

4chan is just an endless stream of shit by comparison.

You probably all come here because you're failed Redditors who couldn't get any upvotes with their r*cist trash content.

As we speak I have 3 different Reddit threads on the front page of their respective boards, bringing me many thousands of upvotes each hour.

Feels good to be a successful Redditor and not an outcast like you bunch of chuds.

>> No.55772614

>>55772586
Reasoning?

>> No.55772618
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>>55772607
They also have great stock advice.

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>>55772607

>> No.55772620

>>55772607
Ok this is epic

>> No.55772638

>>55772575
We need another COVID and emergency rate cut

>> No.55772640
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>>55772607
You posted this on /pol/

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>>55772607
Go back

>> No.55772657

>>55772607
Cool story homo
I wanna hear more about this>>55772586

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>>55772588
Fucking kek thank you. I want to save this to use as a reply to CRBPajeet when he gets uppity with me.

>> No.55772659

>>55772614
he had a dream about it

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>>55772638
They wouldn't play the same card twice right? Gotta be terrorism or something else. It'll prolly be more bank failures desu.

>> No.55772676

>>55772607
I know this is pasta but being able to see the political and sexual orientation, location, hobbies, and often even profession and income level of any poster is the best thing about reddit and the only reason I use it (without an account of course). My personal favorite was back in the pre squeeze gme days on wsb some guy kept going off about how racist the south is and turns out he was very active on the jelquing sub and when everyone found out was mocked relentlessly.

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>>55772589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vamReLUOlrA

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>>55772643

>> No.55772707

>>55772676
What the fuck is jelquing?

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>>55772571
i'm switching to KOLD, how dumb am I?

>> No.55772709

I unironically consider buying PYPL, talk me out of it.

>> No.55772716
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55772716

Say it with me

The bank of Apple

>> No.55772722

>>55772708
feels bad man

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195 run to 225 pls

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>>55772716

>> No.55772739

>>55772659
Threw $50 at it just in case.

>> No.55772746
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I stopped buying hot dog buns and hamburger buns and just use regular bread for both instead. Is that weird?

>> No.55772751

>>55772746
That's all we got in county lockup

>> No.55772759

>>55772746
Buns have strategic crust that keeps the moist toppings from seeping through, sliced bread doesn't give you that.

>> No.55772764

>>55772707
It's a dick stretching fad people were using to try and make their penises longer. Side effects include impotence and penile trauma.

>> No.55772766

>>55772746
I use lettuce buns for burgers because I’m a pussy

>> No.55772773

>>55772759
I don't know, I feel like Texas toast kind of takes care of that problem though.
>>55772764
Oh that's just sad.

>> No.55772774
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55772774

Look at this schizo bullshit. How can these “analysts” go from constant upgrades to their price targets amidst massive insider selling, then suddenly cutting expectations over 2 fucking days? Was this a pump and dump? There’s like 15 companies all doing the same shit. There’s no way this shit wasn’t a pump and dump.

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>>55772766
Hahah what the fuck get a load of this guy.

>> No.55772790
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>>55772746
It's okay to be poor anon.

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>>55772746
just buy burger buns and use them for both.

>> No.55772799

I bought $1k of TSLY last week :')
wonder if ill ever recover

>> No.55772811

>>55772789
I would normally take this opportunity to make fun of liz because of her alien like appearance, but after watching love & death, I've officially deemed her as an acceptable qt. Still a little alien-y though. Not Anya levels of extraterrestrial.

>> No.55772820

can Honda beat earnings?

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I just shorted UPWK

>> No.55772829
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whats the lattest meme stocks bros

>> No.55772844

>>55772586
are we buying your bags?

>> No.55772851

>>55772829
Looking like muln
One anonymous poster said he was gonna buy some in the last thread and that was enough for me to buy

>> No.55772855
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>High on steam wishlist
>High on pre-orders
>Limited early bird release sold out in days
> Very positive reviews from those who've gotten a chance to try it
>Planned game releases 2025/27 and probably a fuckton of dlc like pd2

It's happening Starbreeze bros, it's finally happening

>> No.55772856

>>55772829
NKTR is up 25% since this post >>55772362

>> No.55772878

>>55772855
I'm still waiting for the suikoden 1&2 remaster to come out.

>> No.55772879

>>55772856
God I'd like to have ridden that red rocket.

>> No.55772880

BCC. They didn't listen to me. The Money Is Going To Boise.

>> No.55772889

i just shidded and fharted, bullish?

>> No.55772895

>>55772889
What was the smell. I'm looking at VVIX as you tell me about the smell. We'll see how it reacts.

>> No.55772904

>>55772851
looks good. imma buy 100 shares

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BOIL BARONS
I DO recommend selling a portion of your holdings on this rip.
I DO NOT recommend selling *all*.
Keep plenty of free capital in your ratio in order to ride out whatever happens during the contract roll which starts tomorrow and lasts until next Monday, there *might* be some breddy gud dippin' in it. But also keep enough that you got at those great cost basis to catch any potential further rippin'.

>> No.55772925

>>55772880
Boise laundering money for salt lake now? Dakota trust bros about to find out.

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>>55772607
I'll call you 3 for free.

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I'm financially bored bros...

>> No.55772951 [DELETED] 

MEME STOCKS OF THE DAY
NKTR (first post >>55772335 price at 0.8249)
MULN (first post >>55772520 price at 0.1121)
let's see their price at closing after anons made the posts

>> No.55772960

MEME STOCKS OF THE DAY
NKTR (first post >>55772362 price at 0.8249)
MULN (first post >>55772520 price at 0.1121)
let's see their price at closing after anons made the posts
sorry about the mistake

>> No.55772965
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>fed pauses rate hikes
>the yield curve starts to inverse more
bros...

>> No.55772967

>>55772925
They're laundering money for Spokane biker gangs.

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>> No.55772976

Lot of bots spamming shitcos these days.

>> No.55772978

>>55772976
its so exhausting

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>>55772976
>these days

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>>55772960

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Is wall Street a grifter?

>> No.55772992

>went to Costco
>got a bunch of shit for my chilli all on sale
>slightly down on SOXS/SQQQ but I know I will end green by end of day
Good day lads

>> No.55772995

>>55772978
>>55772984
It's gotten worse recently imo (i post often enough on this shithole general so i nooootice). This kinda shit right here >>55772960 stopped for a while.

>> No.55773002

>>55772821
what is your bear thesis on UWK (Upwork) ?

>> No.55773014

>>55773002
>UWK
UPWK** shit spelled that wrong. What is the bear thesis on UPWK?

>> No.55773015
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Bobros...

>> No.55773027

>>55772984
Could literally fit Manhattan between her eyes.

>> No.55773030

>>55772774
>be cloudflare
>spend immense time and money making sure no one says any rude things about trans
>ISIS propaganda website has still been up for 8 years
NOOOOOoooooo why does no one trust us?! :(

>> No.55773029

>>55772829
LLAP. Source: someone on this site told me to and that's enough for a couple hundred out of me

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>>55773015
>twitter filename
>image with white bars

>> No.55773038

>>55773015
Buddy. Look at IWM. Look at AAPL. Look at TSLA. Look at the 10 year bond.
>NQ +0.26% WAOOOWWW!!!!
>THE SELL OFF IS OVER, LOOK AT THAT NASDAQ RALLY!!!
>WAOOWW!!!

>> No.55773047

>>55772967
So I shouldn't go to biker bars and call them mustached homolords

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>>55773027
Or my huge dong.

>> No.55773051

>>55773030
NET is a nonsense stock, just goes up and down all the time. I don't get how they are the defacto anti DDOS

>> No.55773052

>>55773031
I googled "ash Ketchum crying" and I'm phonefagging

>> No.55773055

>>55772829
For me, it's CMRX
>mpox stock
>main play is a cancer drug in phase 3 testing, which should get FDA approval by December
Please buy my bags

>> No.55773074

>>55773038
>Look at IWM. Look at AAPL. Look at TSLA. Look at the 10 year bond.
And wallah just like that spy never trades below $448 ever again

>> No.55773077

>>55773031
Is that a red flag for glowies now? I need to link up with the resident schizophrenic and find out what the new glowie identifiers are

>> No.55773084

>>55773074
Lol. Ok. You will see.

>> No.55773090

>>55773002
Line go up so line go down

>> No.55773094

There's no good way to sugar coat this. I was just informed to prepare for the pending recession that's coming within 2 months. This one will be an organic one, (not an artificially manufactured one like covid) and it will lead to the a lot of pain and suffering for those who are unaware. I don't know the exact day when the boys on wall street are going to realize the music has stopped, but don't get caught in the stampede for the exits. You either exit this month or wait the whole fucking thing out.

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pshh nothing personnel spy

>> No.55773104

>>55773047
I'm gonna be honest I have lived in the Eastern WA / Idaho area with tons of obnoxious bikers and I've wanted to take 11 shots and then walk into a bar and call them homolords who love attention

>> No.55773114

>>55772829
>corn head
TUP is crabbing. The remainder of my stack is paid for. gambling with their money now so no more stops.

>> No.55773115

>>55773094
Golden bull run confirmed. Buying SOXL calls with all my cash.

>> No.55773116

jerk off all you want to QQQ potentially retesting 376-377 but make sure to cum before 378 because after it rejects it it's gonna go down hard

>> No.55773126

Also

>Look at atm call for WMT 12 day exp, has an IV of 24.1%
>sqrt(24.1) / 100 x 160 = 7.85

>Look at ATR for WMT today, 3.73 vs price of $160
>sqrt(3.73 x 12) = 6.69

So does this mean that the option premium is roughly equal to 1.16, since it's the difference between the price of the asset vs the underlying? I understand greeks and know intrinsic and extrinsic value, but this just helps me quantify it differently

>> No.55773131

>>55773099
Probably woulda made more if you bought ITM instead of OTM

>> No.55773133

why wont u guys congratulate me for calling ARAV a shitty stock that is going down and then line actually did go down. No one. Congratulated me. If this was a bar u guys would be obligated to buy me drinks

>> No.55773134

>>55773094
It's ok baggot, I already warned everyone

>> No.55773135

>>55773094
so, cheapies incoming? im going to get another chance after missing out on covid?

>> No.55773146

If /smg/ was a bar I would be really happy celebrating my ARAV short play working out and buy everyone a round of drinks but I would keep a dropper bottle of GHB in my pocket and drop it in all of your drinks and date rape every single one of you in the /smg/ bar

>> No.55773159

>>55773146
Based, my bussy is ready

>> No.55773174

Everyone is talking about pump and dumps. Where is the top when you need it.

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>>55773116
>jerk off all you want
Thanks for the affirmation

>> No.55773189

>>55773159
The average size of people in the /smg/ bar would vary greatly (Surely some of you are twinks and some of you are fatasses) so I would put in a heavy dose of GHB in each and every single one of your drinks so you're all unconscious for a good 4 hours

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Got a question, if someone hasn't paid taxes in 7 years and 3 of those have a 1099, what sgould they do to make things even with the fed?

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>>55773115
>>55773094
For me, it's SRTY calls because Russell can move more violently than largecaps, and there's no extra premium for puts.

>>55773094
>I don't know the exact day when the boys on wall street are going to realize the music has stopped
You watch this chart. You can probably check it once or twice a week, but once we get back to within the -0.50 range, you need to check it every single day to watch for it uninverting. Usually at that point, people pile out of treasuries and equities get heemed, and then smart money buys things that are exceptionally cheap.
In any case, you want to stay liquid and patient

>> No.55773198

>>55773134
Oh thanks, I'ma get back to work.

>> No.55773201

>>55773146
>He doesn't know about the bizball

>> No.55773207

>>55773191
fed really gonna lower rates next month?

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>>55773146
You could threaten to dox and rape every anon and their families, but your threat lost every shred of its credibility the moment you mentioned /smg/ anons being profitable

>> No.55773214

>>55773094
>recession
>one year before the presidential election

yeah there's no way baggot
markets will crash after and only if the dems lose, until then they're going to keep this market up

>> No.55773223

>>55773191
deposit $600 and find out

>> No.55773225

>>55773191
Can someone explain to me why fed funds futures even exist?

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>>55773214
That's a credible thesis, it gives the second peak more time to form

>> No.55773233

>>55773212
It's not that we are profitable over a long time horizon or whatever. My ARAV play worked out. The company's stock price went down a lot and there's more downside bc their balance sheet is fucked.
A corollary of this is I want to buy people on /smg/ drinks at the local /smg/ bar and I would put GHB droplets in everyone's drink (GHB is pretty tasteless imo unless you put it straight on your tongue) and date rape everyone to celebrate.

>> No.55773238

>>55773191
>>55773225
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fed-funds-futures.asp

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>>55773233
So, long on Singapore gas futures...

>> No.55773261

>>55773225
Gotta gamboool on everything.

>> No.55773268

>>55773238
>Banks and fixed-income portfolio managers use fed funds futures to hedge against market fluctuations in short-term interest rates. The contracts also let traders speculate on the Federal Open Market Committee's monetary policy announcements.
Why though?

>> No.55773269

>>55773250
No GHB Im talking about the date rape drug that I'll use at the /smg/ bar

>> No.55773277

remember that big tiddy mutt that used to get posted here? a chick that looked like that was flirting hard with me yesterday even though my wife was there. why are women like this?

>> No.55773288

>>55773261
Who is gambling with those products though? Certainly not retail right?

>> No.55773310

>>55773288
(((accredited investors)))

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>>55773268
"How do i profit from X?" in this case fed funds rate is "X".

>> No.55773337

For the yield curve to uninvert, higher long term yields is incredibly bearish right? Vs falling short term yields, which could be bearish for a time but not long term. Higher long term yields to uninvert the curve would mean nobody wants to hold US debt long term anymore right?

>> No.55773340

How high are we gonna go AMZN chads?

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RAD CHADS WHAT WENT WRONG

>> No.55773369

BROS DO I BUY KOLD?

>> No.55773390

>>55772923
How much should I sell? 10%? 50%?

>> No.55773392
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>>55773277
You mean Venti? Anyway, they're all soulless vampires who get off to destruction. Also, it's an ego boost.

>> No.55773394

>>55773318
But the cme group uses those fed funds futures prices to publish "probabilities" for each FOMC decision, even though "probabilities" require a random sample, which a Jerome Powell interest rate decision is not a random sample. It's a predetermined qualitative decision that incorporates quantitative data, but it's still a qualitative decision, not a random outcome. So isn't it a bit inaccurate and nefarious to publish probabilities based on the goomblers goombling? I'll ask again, who is trading those fed funds futures and how are they so right all the time?

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>>55773394
You got the first part backwards. /zqz is the ticker go for it yourself.

>> No.55773427

>>55773268
Predictable cash flows, risk management, etc etc
You know, stuff that professional money managers do
But the caveat here is that it counts as market activity and you can see what the market appetite is and make your own forecasts on this. For example, in >>55773191 you can see they're expecting reversals on interest rates. Why? The only time they would do that is if rates were too high and something broke. We don't know what that "something" is, but educated fund managers are predicting this.
So, they've done all the work for us. We don't know what or why, just that it's very likely to happen. If something breaks, other people panic. Therefore, it would be a good idea to either stay risk off or play the downside around the time those numbers flip (eg around Dec-Apr)

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>>55773369
buy my dude

>> No.55773438

>TTOO
biotech stock doing biotech stock things

>> No.55773444

When will the red stop brothers

>> No.55773458

>>55773444
checked and keked

>> No.55773465

>>55773409
>You got the first part backwards
Do I though?
>Probabilities of possible Fed Funds target rates are based on Fed Funds futures contract prices, assuming that rate hikes/cuts are uniformly sized in increments of 25bps (0.25%), and that the Effective Fed Funds Rate (EFFR) will react proportionally to the size of the hike/cut.
What if I feel zesty and yolo a 1000 lot on said futures? Is Jerome going to change his mind to heem me? Or will the market maker just look at my order and laugh at me and take the other side because he already knows the answer?

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>>55773427
To be fair in January the cuts were expected this year. They keep kicking it back, there's juice in there for someone. I honestly don't believe the projection but it's good timing curve inversion wise, the ol 12-18months later meme.

>> No.55773468

The keep trying to knock us down oil bros. But they don't know what is coming (me).

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>>55773369
I'm not yet, the contract roll might change the floors/ceilings that I was using before.
>>55773390
Up to you, I sold 1/3 on one account and 1/2 of the other.

>> No.55773480

>>55773337
Fed will cut to normalize the curve and nothing will happen

>> No.55773481
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55773481

OH NO NO NO JEPI BROS
WE GOT TOO COCKY

>> No.55773483

>>55773427
>but educated fund managers
I question how "educated" they are vs just outright given private info

>> No.55773496

>>55773345
Things arent so rad anymore. I never see rads going up. Just closing.

>> No.55773499

>>55773474
>>55773432
Thanks fellas. I think I’ll sell 20% and put a safe 500 into KOLD. I got into BOIL pretty low so I’m reluctant to do a big sell

>> No.55773510

Back from a two week range ban. What did I miss?

>> No.55773519

>>55773481
1. Why prefer SPYI over JEPI
2. Why prefer high yield ETFs over just investing in the corresponding market fund? Its one thing to invest in a high yield fund for a given symbol but what's the point of investing in high yield SP500? SP500 will never go down over the long term, you are sure to make more money if you just buy VTI or whatever and hold it.

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>>55773510
Bears had a fun week last week I guess.

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>>55773465
I guess i just mean it's always suspicious when the futures flip 72 hours before the fomc presser, and they never ever go against those futures. Well at least the ones closest to expiry. Like MM are the ones who actually steer the fed funds, not fed quants.

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>>55773499
Yeah, I'm not too thrilled with selling mine at my averages either but these fuckin' rolls *can* get wild so I did it for muh blood pressure's sake so I can confidently make whatever tactical navigations I need to during the roll (not such a massive position it is terrifying, and plenty of free capital for DIPPARINOS).

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>Funny nuclear man says to get TLT
Someone was saying that ITT the other day

>>55773483
I said educated, not intelligent, kek. There's a certain level of certification they have but it doesn't mean they're right or make good decisions. Given the law of large numbers, random posters here are probably just as likely to be right as professional managers (they just have access to more information). Though I'd give a slight edge to them (say 50.5% vs 49.5% here).

>>55773499
I think you're insane for holding BOIL long term, but good luck to you. For what it's worth, I did get a long entry signal on Friday, but I was forward testing and didn't actually enter. It's a swing trade, though. I expect another swing long in 2-3 weeks.

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I sold my UNG too soon

>> No.55773550
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>>55773542
It's a cut play not a hike play we are still early and yes i'm long tlt and tmf. No it doesn't feel great rn.

>> No.55773561
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55773561

A major part of the beauty of trading
THA WIDOWMAKER
is that there is a reasonably continuous supply of buy/sell opportunities.

>> No.55773570

>>55773277
no danger
> BEPC

>> No.55773572

>>55773548
u can buys more laters >>55773561

>> No.55773576
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>>55773550
buddy.. inflation is moving higher
why would you be going long bonds (now)
inflation higher = rates higher = your TLT has bad diarrhea

>> No.55773577

>>55773550
>We're early
No fucking kidding. I see you lads talking about this chart >>55773194 like 6 months ago, and only now is the NNFX guy starting to discuss it in his blog, and even then he's always early to the party.
Still, a good time to accumulate.
I've also learned that I'm usually right too, I just need to have a lot of patience and let it play out... like it usually takes 2-3 times longer than I expect. Separately, options are a killer for me

>> No.55773583

>>55773542
I wouldn’t call 4 months long term but I get what you’re saying
>>55773528
That’s fair. Even for as little as I had my stake in BOIL I could sense that if I had went all in my hair would start falling out

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Who's made money on plays today? What trades?

>> No.55773595

>>55773527
>it's always suspicious when the futures flip 72 hours before the fomc presser, and they never ever go against those futures
Exactly, so who the fuck is buying those and why are they so right all the time? Its an illusion of a free market. Sure I can buy too I suppose, but why would I want to with no info? What kind of info are the traders in that market working with to always be so right?

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is paypal back

>> No.55773609

>>55773542
>but it doesn't mean they're right or make good decisions
But they always guess the probabilities correctly every time, so they are always right

>> No.55773616

>>55773595
>>55773527
Are we talking about the FOMC speakers? Harker speaks today and thursday

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>> No.55773626

>>55773583
>if I had went all in my hair would start falling out
That's especially the case on one account I work because it is someone else's capital, far more than my personal acct, that I'm trading for split profits, so there's a lot more pressure when the shit is diggin' around in the red. He called a while ago and was sayin' "you want to sell the rest and do a take?" and I said fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck naw, I hated cuttin' that much loose.

>> No.55773633

>>55773576
date and source of picture thanks.
i have lot of money in fossiles and need to make plans for sales.

>> No.55773641

>>55773626
How much do you make for managing his account? Or is it family or what?

>> No.55773646

>>55773616
The traders in the fed funds futures markets have a 100% accuracy rate all the time based on the cme probabilities that are published based on the futures trading action.

>> No.55773651

>>55773641
Just 1/2 of whatever profits above the capital. It's my old business partner from decades ago.

>> No.55773663
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>mfw todays market

>> No.55773665

TUP pumping again

>> No.55773664

>>55773651
I bet you trade a lot more careful with his than your own account, huh? Anyways, why does he let you trade for him?

>> No.55773667

>>55773646
>The traders in the fed funds futures markets have a 100% accuracy rate all the time based
you're just seeing where the trading lands, not all of the trading occurs prior to that. the traders of that market are not all winners, that's insane to even suggest.

>> No.55773671

>we're still far from Friday highs
>mumu already cooming prematurely because he sees a bit of green

>> No.55773673

>>55773606
>down over 30% in the last year
>have no cash
>only have real relevance in north america, as china and india have their own digital payment solutions which are far better and faster, to the point that every mook with an add-riddled $100 chinese android phone street vendor can instantly pay for anything from a brand new car to a piece of fruit you buy at an open market instantly

paypal is a floundering corpse. where exactly do you see this company going in the future? they are part of the western lazy dinosaur tier banking / payment system along with visa and mastercard. big companies that did nothing with their popularity at the peak and now they are going to be isolated by developing nations.

>> No.55773680

>-67% portfolio

>> No.55773685

BCC anon. Thoughts on MBUU?

>> No.55773689

>>55773671
Give it a couple days, bobochud.

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>>55773680
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Just play the fiddle while your account burns

>> No.55773694

>>55773664
Fuck no, I'm way more reckless with his, it was my personal account I sold 1/2 the position on and his I sold 1/3! He lets me trade for him because he wants to both help me out and him make money.

>> No.55773702

>>55773667
>you're just seeing where the trading lands
But how come where it lands is always correct without fail? Why does Jerome always do what the futures market says without fail? He doesn't have to, or does he?

>> No.55773709

>>55773673
>where exactly do you see this company going in the future?
See that's a foolish question to me.
On the one hand, if you're looking at a company in the next 1, 2, 5 years, you're investing in it and at that point fundamentals matter more. But the market is irrational, see AMZN trading at what, 200, 300 P/E? Not that it's a great metric, but everyone knows there's a bubble on prices and things are irrational.
But in the short term, look at shit like BBBY(Q) and TUP. These companies are shorted to the ground because they are shit and irrelevant, yet price popped off in multiples due to market activity.
What matters is supply vs demand. If there's speculation up or down, the price moves. Trade the market in front of you, really.

>>55773680
Think of the capital losses tax allowance tho

>> No.55773712

>>55773694
Does he pay you every month or year, or every trade or what? How does that work? Also, when shit doesn't go your way does he freak out?

>> No.55773717

>>55773633
https://finviz.com/futures_performance.ashx?v=13
the image was a few days ago snapshot
gasoline and diesel have surged higher
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/gasoline
(let alone all the other food commodities)

>> No.55773721

>>55773340
2.5T market cap

>> No.55773731

>>55773712
I just sell the position and take half whenever I want, just transfer it to my acct, I told him my target for the position I'm working is Oct/Nov.

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Seriously though please buy my CMRX bags, it's been a long year
(it's only 1/3 of my trade account but I still have to hold for another 4 months, but the options market is so fucking illiquid I had to pay 0.26 for those puts instead of 0.15 as advertised)

>> No.55773741

>>55773702
because the fed doesn't want the market to be surprised by anything, so even if the market is wrong a few months out, they start to communicate in various ways in order to prevent market disruption. those fed funds futures are cash settled, and when someone correctly buys the correct rate, that means someone else had to sell it to them. if the fed hikes/cuts and the futures market is correct, then 50% of the participants who bought at that rate are winners, and the other 50% are losers, since the selling had to come from somewhere.

>> No.55773750

>>55773712
>>55773731
This is over and over, btw, I can sell/take 1/2 perpetually whenever I want anything over the original capital.

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>>55773731
I'd be skeptical of trusting anyone here with my money, even myself. Just remember that losses hurt you more than wins help you. Minimizing a loss and having defined risk is much more important than chasing wins

>> No.55773765

I feel pretty bullish so I should probably sell right?

>> No.55773767

Volatility is over
We return to stability
The bulls are safe

>> No.55773774

>>55773765
Take some profit, no harm in that. Most people don't

>> No.55773785

>>55773741
>they start to communicate in various ways in order to prevent market disruption
So backhanded collusion in the "free" markets, giving private data to certain market participants but not others?
>and the other 50% are losers
Just a budgeted cost of doing /biz/ for the MMs

>> No.55773789

>>55773755
He's trusted me with far more than this shit decades ago. My phone is the 2FA on his account too. We go way the fuck back but he lives all the way across the country now and we talked a few weeks ago for the first time in a few years.

>> No.55773807

>>55773789
Hey that's fair, and good for you if you're able to stay profitable long term. I'm not quite at that level yet.
I figure that long term I could get some kind of certification but I don't want to sell mutual funds to boomers. My best bet is to have a decent trading system and go with a prop firm.

>> No.55773813

Markets still seem to be pretty green

>> No.55773817

>>55773785
they dont pick and choose who the winners and losers are, however as the timeframe becomes imminent, they want the market to know where they're headed. everyone who bought and sold a year in advance (likely for commercial hedging purposes) do not receive the benefit of information that is communicated shortly prior to the announcements. this is my last reply because you're retarded.

>> No.55773818

>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-07/amazon-to-meet-with-ftc-next-week-in-final-push-to-avoid-suit

kek amazon will just pay them off and the stock will moon when FTC drops the case.

>> No.55773825

spy pump harder

>> No.55773830

look at HOG computer

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>>55773731
Nice. Try something different. Do a crab spread with his account. QQQ $375 call butterfly for 08/10. Buy $372 call, sell two $375 calls, buy one $378 call. That's your butterfly

Cost $.51 debit spread. Buy ten of them. Max gain is $2500, but you can close them out tomorrow for +20% gain. Try it

>> No.55773838

TUP is currently surging

>> No.55773841

>>55773817
>they dont pick and choose who the winners and losers are
How many participants are there really though? It's the same 5 - 10 players

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>>55773807
I just trade natgas, it has a reasonably continuous supply of dips/rips within reasonably reliable ranges along a reasonably figurable curve and I build/work the position along it according to where it seems to be within all of that and within the context of all available macro circumstances. IT DO GET FUCKIN' SCARY THO!

>> No.55773863

>>55773834
I am too skeert because I do not yet personally understand those things and am also very untrusting of the market stability which could btfo the snibs at any random moment on some random wild news.

>> No.55773864

RAD CHADS WE’RE BACK

>> No.55773868

when do I buy aapl?

>> No.55773884

>>55773868
>he missed the generational bottom of last october
BUDDY, YOU COULD HAVE DONE IT A LONG TIME AGO

>> No.55773886

>>55773863
Well you could just buy one of them and watch how it behaves. It's only $50

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>he missed the last dip of generational bull run
should have just bought

>> No.55773888

>>55773841
> It's the same 5 - 10 players
pensions, annuities, insurance companies, and other institutional investors are all holding treasuries, and many will want to hedge their bets against future rates that they can't predict. i'm the retard for replying again.

>> No.55773889

>>55773868
the moment you are out of the closet

>> No.55773892

>>55773884
just graduated with a bachelors and got a job last june, gimme a break

>> No.55773913

>>55773834
How did you pick those strikes? Seems the 378C is close to 25 delta, the shorts are ATM, and the ITM call negates the rest of the delta.
Looking at QQQ, the ATR is 10.66, so if you sqrt(3 x 10.66) you get an expected move of $5.65, which is enough to knock out either the long or short leg.
Is 50% win rate enough for weeklies, or do you want 60%? How wide do you make the strikes? You can make it safer, but then you eat shit if you end up being wrong that one time

>> No.55773918

>>55773709
You picked a godawful example. Amazon doesn't give 2 shits about earnings as their cash mostly comes from cash cycles and every profit that they get, they invest in new businesses. Amazon is literally the omnicompany and it has the best outlook of all the great chips as it easily adds profitable businesses to its existing cash cows

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>>55773834
butterflies are super hard to hit :c

>> No.55773922
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55773922

it's not that hard to make money lol

>> No.55773931

I need the market to take a fat dump.

>> No.55773942

>>55773834
what is that spread called, i am trying to paper it in HOOD

>> No.55773946

>>55773913
In reality it's more like a 90% win rate for me, as I don't hold it the whole time, basically even when the market moves against me a lil bit the theta decay on the two sells is more than I loose on the two buys. It's a weird convoluted way of collecting theta, but in a debit spread so you're never on the hook like if it was a credit spread.

>> No.55773959

>>55773942
In hood you have to do it manually

>> No.55773974

>>55773942
Just change the sells under edit ratios from 1 to 2

>> No.55773980

>>55773918
>great chips
Blue chips

>> No.55773986

>>55773959
Well there's categories in there though, vertical, straddles/strangles, calendar, credit, debit, etc.

>> No.55773996

>>55773974
ah

>> No.55774011

>>55773986
Sell a call or put, then go 3 strikes down and 3 strikes up and click buy, then edit the sell to 2 of them

>> No.55774012

PLTR gonna miss. I have a feeling.

>> No.55774027

>>55773946
Right, because theta is highest ATM, which is how butterflies work
But if you're not holding it until expiry that means that IV/vega exposure suddenly matters, and that you're doing two transactions.

So for example, I pay $9.95 + $1/contract for a transation, so if I want to risk 2% of my account per trade, that means I need to enter 6x of this spread, which means my overhead is approx $67.90 to enter and exit it.

What might work better for me in my specific circumstances is offsetting the ATM value by one strike and structuring it with all puts or all calls such that I receive a net credit to open the spread, but then otherwise trying to be delta neutral. I can look at TA to slightly account for the trend but generally remain neutral. Something for me to consider

>> No.55774120

>>55774011
Shit, I've just found all kinds of things new to me digging around in there. They don't let you paper spreads apparently though, and you can't edit the numbers apparently, just add single contracts to paper. I did it as individual components but without being able to up the sell one to 2. I'm going to keep exploring this shit though until I start feeling like my tism has grocked enough to run one.

>> No.55774139

>>55774027
Well yea, you can do iron flys or broken wings also, but I just prefer regular butterflies. If it goes far against me I open another one closer to current strike but a few more days out, so they are staggered diagonally. I close most of them out the next morning, but keep one or a few free ones for fun and to watch it.It's a weird strategy I know but doing diagonal butterflies is sort of like a mm balancing themselves to be more neutral. Its really not as complicated as it sounds at first. Works for me

>> No.55774162

>>55774012
please be right
if they have good results the ensuing retardpump would liquidate all my positions

>> No.55774167

>>55774120
Have fun exploring, or just act like you are going to buy one every day or two and watch how the price of the whole spread changes as exp gets closer, or just what happens pretending to hold one overnight. Then pretend you bought twenty of them

>> No.55774179

crab days are shit

>> No.55774183

I just went all in QQQ and SOXL.

>> No.55774186
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>>55774012
>PLTR gonna miss.
What does missing really mean? Does it actually exist? Or is it only in your mind?

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>Beyond Meat earnings AMC

>>55774012
>180% YTD

>> No.55774201

Do you read any magazines online? Need something good

>> No.55774208

>>55773542
>>55773550
>>55773576
no way would I ever hold long term bonds without them ever being inflation protected
100% LTPZ for me

got in at $55.60

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>>55774183
All in?

>> No.55774210

>>55774183
>He doesn't diversify.

RIP to your money.

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>>55774167
One major drawback to me though is as far as I'm concerned the big tech shit going up or down is essentially random bullshit, whereas I have a certain degree of actual understanding with what's going on with natgas on a macro level. Tech shit is often just whatever mood a bunch of fags are having on a given day! They will never be women, but they still act a lot like them.

>> No.55774222

>>55774196
You bought calls on BYND, AMC, and PLTR right?

>> No.55774238

>>55774183
I am still in the reverse, lets see what happens

>> No.55774243

>>55774209
>>55774210
>>55774238
It has to go up.

>> No.55774260

>>55774210
ETFs are diversified. He just bought hundreds of different companies.

>> No.55774267

>>55774243
why

>> No.55774276
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>>55774183
Why tho

>> No.55774282

>>55774139
It's not that unusual, but with options it doesn't matter how complicated your spreads are, but what your net greeks are. How often do you close one leg and leave the other to go? Or do you just cut the whole position?

>>55774208
You could probably do an amount that corresponds to what your projected inflation risk is for the year.
For example, if inflation is normally 2% and you expect a 6% inflation for the year, you could go 3:1 for inflation-hedged bonds : normal ones

>> No.55774298

>>55774222
Nah I'm not touching any of those. I would short ofc, but they might as well pump because fuck me.

>> No.55774310

>>55774282
you can see what the market is pricing in for inflation by looking at the breakeven point
20 year is 2.15% annualized inflation (LOL)
and 30Y is 2.37%

>> No.55774318

>>55774221
Tech is speculative and usually the first to rise or fall, it's a market leader. What interests me is the lag and correlation between assets. Oil went up, and then 6 months later, food prices exploded. Stuff like that.
Do you know much about natgas seasonality

>> No.55774319

Poopy trading day

>> No.55774323

>>55774210
>Diversifying
>2023
Why do they put WiFi in nursing homes?

>> No.55774333

>>55774318
>much
fair amount

>> No.55774334

>>55774310
>Guaranteed a 0.40 annual raise at my mcjob
>Technically this matches inflation at 2.20%
Well, I guess that's nice

Also I heard that the 20/30y bonds are from insurance companies and mortgages. I guess if you know X person is financing a house at a certain rate, you can then use their cash flows against a bond to avoid risk

>> No.55774355

>>55774282
I usually close them out as a whole unit like I buy them. Sometimes I break them up for certain circumstances, depending on my other positions, but normally I don't separate the legs, maybe only a few times a quarter

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Should I start selling my blood again to cover my losses? Also does making blood burn calories? Can I lose weight by losing blood?

>> No.55774373

>>55774333
Why is it so volatile, though? It seems that you have all these different hubs with varying demand but the data may or may not get aggregated for traders, and it's more or less a byproduct of oil production
Besides that, what drives the price? Heating/cooling demand? Industrial processes? If seasonality calls for heating or cooling, it be more predictable, but the trend always seems to last 2-4 days and moves like a schizo

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>>55774368
you can get money for plasma, never heard of anyone getting it for straight up blood.

>> No.55774386

>>55774368
I heard that replacing blood is very taxing on your body long term. I would rather trade semen for money, than blood for money.

>> No.55774392

>>55774323
hahah heck yeah have an updoot my friend!

>> No.55774430
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55774430

got BOIL last week, thanks anon
wondering if I ought to sell some portion today or what, I don't wanna just kneejerk every time I see some + but I'm still pretty new to this stuff and won't touch options with a 10 foot pole until I feel comfortable enough with understanding them shits.
Any anons got any info on what BOIL might be doing in the near future or what industry trends it's depending on?

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>>55774368
>trading your lifeforce for shekels
what do you think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRChz-OYi9o

>> No.55774439

>>55774430
>Any anons got any info on what BOIL might be doing in the near future or what industry trends it's depending on?
Yeah, it always moves 3x what UNG does

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>>55774368
They can make individual specific bioweapon based on your unique genetic code and release a virus that only targets (you).

>> No.55774476

>>55774373
>Why is it so volatile
Because the LORD GOD Almighty wanted traders to have something that kick ass. As best I can tell it has the most tightness between supply/demand, so any fluctuation in the ratio causes wild ass moves. I also suspect it's extremely manipulated by various factions with various "needs" and there's probably a certain amount of give/take between them, with everyone getting their "time to shine". Yes, the heating/cooling changes relatively come and go pretty quickly, (((they))) add/subtract CDDs as the weather models update. Then there's all the shit between storage injections, powerburn, feedgas, LNG exports and such. I keep waiting to see how Cove Point and Sabine Pass coming back online are going to affect it, should be breddy bullish. Those two were major contributors to the little rally the other day not being more substantial. There's a *lot* of moving parts to the natgas price but the curve should be *somewhat* reliable, and the many dips/rips along it worked accordingly to what that curve should be doing over the spans of time. I used the curve to give me confidence during those dips, that it's not likely to just keep droopin' and droopin' into an abyss, like it's more prone to do during the end of Winter down into Spring and early Summer leg.

>> No.55774486

>>55774430
ctrl f "BOIL", check what I've said on this very matter.

>> No.55774497

>>55774430
>>55772923

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>>55774486
Oh I've definitely been keeping an eye on your posts and any relevant to BOIL. I'm always open to learning more though, I know energy is a good place to be but I haven't yet gotten to where I can intuitively understand market movements. I do appreciate all the insight though, anon.

>> No.55774510

>>55773834
>>55774355
Okay, so for that given expiry (the 10th, why thursday and not friday?), whether you look at ATR, IV, or an ATM straddle, the market agrees that the price will range between 369 on the low to 380 on the high.
I can't seem to construct a particular spread that is profitable within those exact breakpoints, eg it has risk at 368 or lower
But I guess if it was riskless, there would be arbitrage opportunities, and options have defined risk so you have to have some chance of loss

>> No.55774532

>>55774505
Well as I said above I sold 1/3 my holdings on 1 acct and 1/2 on the other. I recommend always knowing where you are on the 3 month chart to have the most clear idea of whether you should be buying/selling and to what extent of each/either. This is, of course, in addition to having an idea of the longer seasonal curve which should peak in Oct/Nov for BOIL due to it being on the Jan contract for those months. Also always watch and consider anything to do with the contract rolls, it starts tomorrow.

>> No.55774533

>>55774368
>calories
Lots of different stuff, really. If you're thinking calories specifically, not so much 'burn' but removing blood removes the glucose and such present in the blood.

>> No.55774535
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Are leaps on AAPL easy money? Feels like it.

>> No.55774539

>>55774535
Lol

>> No.55774540

>>55774510
The thing about it is, even when you are technically outside the money, the spread can still increase in value from what you bought it at because it's usually close enough.

>> No.55774548

>>55774539
Is it really that bad? I missed last week

>> No.55774553

>>55774535
You'd better hope a lot of fags/nigs/women like the sound of the upcoming iPhone release enough to lay down a ton of money during these economically uncertain times, I reckon. I think it is coming next month but I don't keep up with that shit, someone happened ot mention it to me and that's as far as it goes for me.

>> No.55774568

>>55774368
you can probably fight high blood pressure, with regular blood letting.

>> No.55774573

>>55774540
I like this notion. I think it is you that I've previously agreed with on being happy with just whatever smaller profits and then when nice surprise big ones occur it's more of a "bonus". I mean, of course we all want to make more, and even the most possible, but for sanity's sake the above outlook is a breddy nice "way".

>> No.55774583

>>55774548
That's irrelevant this is nowhere near the time to start talking about leaps. It barely even went down yet. You'd be better off with a shorter term rebound if you want to long

>> No.55774590

>>55774553

That will happen for a while longer. Status is a big thing in society now and as long as Apple can market their products as a way that makes its owner feel like them owning said Apple product helps that, they'll continue to make money. Their whole thing is trying to make cool stuff and sell it to the middle class demographic.

As people get poorer across the board is when I think their stock will take a hit. I suspect it'll be gradual over the years, but noticeable.

>> No.55774615

>>55774590
I think they have had 3 straight quarters of downward earnings somethingoranother. I barely pay any attention, but nootice these little highlights regardless just from reading all kinds of market news shit and the posts here.

>> No.55774620

>>55774532
Right on, I appreciate the input. I'm definitely going to spend more time learning about the energy sector as I've been paying much more attention to tech since I've been developing a portfolio. We'll see how the next couple months go; best of luck to you!

>> No.55774640

>>55774620
Much appreciated, may you be blessed with gainz and use them in a manner pleasing to the LORD GOD Almighty.

>> No.55774641

>>55774620
Here give this a read if you have time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_economics

>> No.55774667

>>55774573
It's just nerve racking holding them on the last day because you can be at plus 100% and go to nothing hoping for a 300%, so if I still have it on exp day I usually sell it within 30 mins of open to lock in profit and keep my sanity. Or I close all but one or two of them, that way they are technically free, and sometimes hit good with few, but I don't have the risk of it going poof, the gamma risk is crazy on last day so I usually cash out before then to be safe

>> No.55774670

>>55774620
Oh, perhaps this will be useful. My default is not wanting to sell a single share, BUT, the overall working of the position has the goal of keeping as much net (think old school fishing net) as possible for catching any rips, and as much free capital as possible for pumping into the bottom of the position on dips. The ebbs/flows are all worked towards this mechanism.

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Anyone buying JOET?

>> No.55774688

>>55774670
I think that's a good mentality. I only bought in last week so today has been the first substantial gain I've seen. I was considering just selling enough to justify in my mind a "successful" profit or trade. But I reckon I'll just hang on and worry about getting out later this week and keep enough in there to capitalize on any potential growth beyond this small profit on the shorter end.

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>>55774698
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.55774724

Please my basedbois help a yuropoor out.
UPS's earnings is tomorrow BMO. Do (you) still use their services in the land of the free or is the time you do use their services getting more and more rare?

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>>55774710
>right anon?

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I have an investment advisor now

>> No.55774755 [DELETED] 

wait even if a character is farmable, how reasonable is it to go from 1/2 stars all the way to UE50 without using ligma

>> No.55774768

>>55774755
ligma balls

>> No.55774779

>>55774724
Half the time it's some foreigner in an unmarked white van delivering shit

>> No.55774780

>>55774724
Sometimes

>> No.55774782

>>55774688
I don't know that "later this week" is a good target *at all* because the roll starts tomorrow and lasts until next Monday. Then we'll be on the Nov contract which *should* be pretty nicely bullish following after. I'm keeping plenty enough to catch any further upside while preparing to buy any substantial dip that happens from/during the roll. The 3rd/4th days of the rolls tend to have the most bearish force, but again, the natgas macro may overwhelm the technicals of the roll itself, no way to know ahead.

>> No.55774791

>>55774746
You really couldn't say no to your bank could you you pansy?

>> No.55774793

I swear to god if palantir doesn't tank and my shorts get squeezed I'm gonna fucking put my money bonds and be done with it because trading is not for me
I may come back and pick up the pieces after a recession but fuck this overinflated eternally uptrending meme retardpump bubble

>> No.55774803

>Even though we can only speculate at this point, a number of written articles have appeared with scary headlines such as “The Social Security COLA for 2024 could be 2.7%, down from 8.7%.”
DA POOR BOOMAHS

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>>55774755
I saw that

>> No.55774808

>>55774791
No... but they're smarted than me anyway, so it's fine. Most of my money is just sitting there in dumb funds because I'm too lazy to manage it. I'm not handing over my $108k fun account though

>> No.55774812

>>55774793
The stock twits feed for it looks like some peak GME bullshit, not sure how to feel about it

>> No.55774818

>noticing a lot of synchronicities in my life lately
>last week my daughter is eating a yogurt
>taste a lick, it's good
>who makes this?
>SOVO
>also make Rao's sauce and Michelangelo's dinners which we buy
>BUY
>up 25% today thanks to Campbells buying them
Listen to God, anons.

>> No.55774822

>>55774793
What does Palantir actually do? Aren't they just a bullshit vaporware company?

>> No.55774826

>>55774780
>>55774779
thanks

>foreigner in an unmarked van
after all it's the land of the free n shiet.

>> No.55774829

>>55772708
>>55772722
Natgas is very closely following last year's chart and the target for bulls this month is 3 dollars BBL for farts, so beans will be going up in share price. This means that we can conservatively say BOIL might go to like 80 bucks or smth IDK.

Probably not a good time for KOLD unless you're selling tomorrow's theoretical retrace, but today's pump is because of hype for heat waves in asia and texas+Egypt cutting natural gas production so maybe putin will come out tomorrow and let out a big fart and say russia is also cutting production and then you're really boned.

>> No.55774838

>>55774822
Aren't they just corporatized glowies?

>> No.55774840

>>55772588
Damn dude she gross.

>>55772739
We got a big spender here.

>> No.55774845

I thought semiconductors were a safe bet but my TSM hasn't been doing anything for two months now

>> No.55774863
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Exciting day

>> No.55774877

>>55774822
>>55774838
They have spyware on the american public with an army contract, since the government isn't allowed to do so. Also paypal mafia funding

>> No.55774890

>>55774877
Calls it is

>> No.55774911

>>55774829
>Natgas is very closely following last year's chart and the t
>tracking commodities on year to year chart and not event to event
kek you will be heemed on natgas like every other anon that bought.

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>>55774818
it really is that simple.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmhBUxUDPTA

>> No.55774922

>>55774845
lmao why would u expect anything from NA teams

>> No.55774942

>>55774911
No because it always goes up in the summertime going back 5-10 years, you're the only one getting heemed because you're so retarded you're getting into KOLD during the middle of summer when natural gas is being used for air conditioning during a massive heat wave and then thinking "KOLD GO UP A LOT DURING WINTER, MUST GO UP AGAIN". This is before considering that large players in the market will attempt to push it back to 3 bucks and the longer trend is pricing in the Autumn pump, when BOIL will surge to 3.50 in anticipation of winter natural gas usage. Incidentally KOLD basically always goes up in december as that sells off. But I understand like most smiggers you assume you're bigger brained than you actually are, because you don't actually follow market trends you just post bears and scream "it's going to zero".

>> No.55774956

>>55774942
>you're so retarded you're getting into KOLD
Check the Ids retard. I havent bought any position on nat gas because i work in oil/gas field and i know it sucks now.

>> No.55774967

Last time I got lucky with AMZ calls
Hope the magic happens again tonight with PLTR calls

>> No.55774972
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Apparently I stepped in gum yesterday.

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1 minute. Get that order in that you are hesitant on. It will pay off. DO IT NOW

>> No.55774978

>>55774967
>Hope the magic happens again tonight with PLTR calls
Oh fug i forgot that was today. Was only thinking of disney on wednesday this week forgot about my pltr bags.

>> No.55774985

Too pussy to buy puts on PLTR. Good luck to the gamblers.

>> No.55774991

>-0.03%
couldve been worse i guess

>> No.55774992
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>>55774818
>Listen to God
BLESSED
A
S
E
D

>> No.55774999

-0.37 gme and bbbyq

>> No.55775015

>>55774818
Investing in what you observe is the way.

>> No.55775034

my hedge was left open cos of yuro close....

>> No.55775048

>>55775034
I guess you will live in the POD after all, it's in your ID bro

>> No.55775064

XLU is a piece of shit. That is all

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>>55775015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpVfcZ0ZcFM

>> No.55775098

>>55774956
yet here we are making good money off of something that apparently "sucks now". breddy wild.

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It's slow as fuck today

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>+.48%
It's green, I'll take it

>> No.55775165

>>55775048
fuck they got me. i will be happy and own nothing :)

>> No.55775172

>>55775158
yessir, kick ass, BLESSED

>> No.55775173

>>55775138
all smggers are on vacation cos most of smg is market makers and institutions..

heh right bros??

>> No.55775177

Kek baggies

>> No.55775185

>>55775138
it's *weird* as fuck today, where is the ding ding ding motherfucker at?

>> No.55775189

>>55774298
Should've shorted BYND alright

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>>55775158
Actually, it's not green til you book it. Perhaps a red Tuesday incoming

>> No.55775201

>>55775177
Kek, at least "Kek baggies" Anon is here.

>> No.55775242

Why dont we build a shunt to outerspace and vent our co2 there? Imagine the carbon credits we could sell

>> No.55775264

>>55775242
Because then all the trees and plants would die without all the CO2 to breathe in

>> No.55775268

Ah, the last /smg/... I'm free

>> No.55775287
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>PLTR
It's not over until I say so

>> No.55775303

>chegg
Should’ve bought calls

>> No.55775312
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>>55775201
**Fist bump brah

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>>55775268
It's just me, you, and one other guy here. Even the bots and pajeets are done with this place

>> No.55775348

>>55775264
They create warmth right? Lets murder them too. We can throw some melanin rich ones into the outer spussy to stop them from radiating

>> No.55775365

>>55775173
>all smggers are on vacation cos most of smg is market makers and institutions
i'm still here

>> No.55775387

>>55775287
let me know when it's over

>> No.55775394

Im ordering the surf and turf platter to go with my pltr

>> No.55775408

>he didn't bake

>> No.55775413

>pltr crabbed
Probably the funniest possible outcome in hindsight

>> No.55775418

>>55773834
So far looks like I would have averaged about 23% gainz on ur suggestion.

>> No.55775431
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And just like that, nobody will ever bake another /smg ever again

>> No.55775438

Why did it pump at the end? I wasn't paying attention

>> No.55775442

>>55775438
>I wasn't paying attention
Yeah that's the point.

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>Metals
Not even fuckin once. Supercycle when?

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>>55775438

>> No.55775448

>>55775445
>Supercycle when?
2 weeks.

>> No.55775454

>He's considering baking.

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>>55775418

>> No.55775468
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>>55775438
Bro, the stock market serves to make the rich even richer. They will pump this crap. This market will not dip below MA50... you might expect a slight dip next month (based on historic predictions) but then we go ATH (4800+ S&P) by EOY

>> No.55775511

>>55775507
>>55775507
>>55775507
>>55775507

>> No.55775513

Fuck you bunch of faggots, baking.
Another Euro W

>> No.55775518

>>55775431
WALLAH

>> No.55775520

>>55775513
10 seconds late, Europe will fall.

>> No.55775584

>>55775461
Indeed (You) are, if only I can get to the point of knowing myself.