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>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://tradingeconomics.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates

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>>55727390

>> No.55729908
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first for IQQK

>> No.55729918
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SOXL GO UP

>> No.55729923
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BOIL/KOLD/UNG

>> No.55729925
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55729925

>USA credit rating downgrade
>US government bonds go up

>> No.55729931

>>55729925
A greater degree if risk warrants a higher yield to attract buyers

>> No.55729935

>>55729931
But yields are going down

>> No.55729945

>>55729925
>>55729931
HONK HONK, BITCHES!!

>> No.55729948

line go up or down??

>> No.55729956

>>55729948
I'm thinking line go up just enough to close green

>> No.55729972

>>55729956
for me its dump slight slurp and more dump

>> No.55729981
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I deserve this

>> No.55729985

>>55729925
>anon learns that bubbles are indeed retarded
just wait until you hear about the corporate debt bubble
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_debt_bubble
>QE pushes yields down so no one wants them
>people instead go to corporate bonds
>they flood them so much that it drives down the yields anyway
>the yields are so low you aren't being compensated for the original risk
Fun fact the fed this year has been quietly buying corporate bond etfs to "help". The solution will always be more spending and inflation.

The only bonds I'd ever hold are tips

>> No.55729992

>>55729903
Is the yeild curve uninverting?

>> No.55730016
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>>55729992
the only thing that happened is that long term bond yields rose because of the credit ding

>> No.55730022

>>55729985
>Fun fact the fed this year has been quietly buying corporate bond etfs to "help".
no they haven't

>> No.55730028

>>55729935
Well, I can't speak for the subhuman bond market. Imagine being a bond buyer. Waking up in the morning and peeling your flabby genteel body from the top of the desk bed. Your pin stripe suit filled with ape man sweat from days upon days of intense bond buying. You peek out of your cage door and see a feast of 500 million dollars before your eyes. Ook ook! You swing into action, tarzaning into your office chair and turning on the government sanctioned dell computer with windows xp os. The bond offerings lie before your monkey grasp. You settle for a 30 year treadury bond at 2.17% APY, an incredible economic achievement. You soiface and monkey fist the buy button. Another hard day of work

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55730029

Imagine driving for YELLOW when you could have been driving for TAY TAY.

>> No.55730039

>>55730022
>https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/12/business/economy/fed-corporate-debt-coronavirus.html
>https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/12/the-fed-is-starting-up-its-program-to-purchase-corporate-bond-etfs.html

>> No.55730044
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55730044

sheeeeeeeeeeeit
BOIL BARGAINS
scary when you're already holding a big ass load tho

>> No.55730058

my indian coworker just said bitch bersterd. WTF, I thought you guys were joking? They really talk like that?

>> No.55730062

>>55730039
yeah, 2020. you said 'this year'

>> No.55730070

>>55730058
Yes they absolutely do
Just wait for his egregious use of "the" and elipses as well, assuming he's literate

>> No.55730071

Muuuuuu Muuuuuuu
come out and play-ayyyyy
MUUUUUUUU MUUUUUUU

>> No.55730105
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>>55729935
>But yields are going down
>>55729925
Yields are going up right now because of the credit down grade.

>> No.55730122

>>55730058
I thought it was a joke too until I had one that said "do the needful"

>> No.55730127

Look at bonds computer

>> No.55730133

>>55730105
your picture does not show yields going up in response to the credit downgrade news. I don't know what crack you are on but yields are down.

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>>55730133

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>>55730044
slurpin' n' fearin'!

>> No.55730170

>>55730138
Im literally showing you the same chart retard. It spiked last night on august 1st. Do you see that pump there? Yields are only slightly down after pumping on the news. Look at my chart.

>> No.55730171

>>55730044
>BOIL
>bargain
lmao. Zoom that chart out

>> No.55730172 [DELETED] 

ADP just dropped mumu. Jhawk won't like those blow out job numbers!

>> No.55730183
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I'm too stupid to do anything but buy the dip and hold

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ADP just dropped mumu. Jhawk won't like those blow out job numbers!
(now posted with picture to drive the point home)

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55730190

lol it's ALWAYS some dumb bullshit out of nowhere. The fucking credit rating?? Seriously who gives a single shit, it's like they're running out of spooky things they can throw at normies in headlines. Also the credit rating doesn't matter if you're literally the single country that defines the value of foreign currencies.

>> No.55730203

>>55729903
Well, their not fat so still better then 40% of American women

>> No.55730206
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>>55730029
WTF is our girl literally taking over the economy? I, for one, welcome Taylornomics.

>> No.55730214

>>55730170
that isn't when the news came out

>> No.55730219
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>>55730190
>the single country that defines the value of foreign currencies.

>> No.55730220

>>55730206
whores from the entertainment industry should shut up and only spread their legs

>> No.55730221
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55730221

>>55730214
Yes it is. Last night after market close.

>> No.55730222

>talking about charts
Ah yes that's that /smg/ stupidity I come here for.

>> No.55730223
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>> No.55730226

>>55730221
that's not it moron

>> No.55730232

>>55730226
Then when was it?

>> No.55730234

>>55730190
The fucking credit rating?? Seriously who gives a single shit
High risk assets could be here, he thought. I hate high risk assets. The free office coffee surged through his veins. His entirely unwarranted fear of VTI, VOO, and SPDR after hours made him shiver. "With U.S. treasury bonds you can enjoy substantial yields at virtually no risk at all", he said to himself out loud

>> No.55730236

>10yr going green on ADP news
>Higher for longer -- too hot jobs, economic blow off top before your very eyes

>> No.55730237
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>>55730221
That spike is between 6:AM and Noon yesterday, not after market close

>> No.55730241

>>55730219
Lol go ahead, tell me why the US doesn't set the value

>>55730236
Wow you idiots get one dumbass headline and you're back on this shit huh

>> No.55730252
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55730252

Japan's 10y yields are up 33% since last Thursday

>> No.55730254

>news
lol fags

>> No.55730260

>>55730252
And the currency is down

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>>55730171
oh, I'm quite familiar with the chart. The more you zoom it, the more of a bargain it seems to be though. I mostly use the 3 month to navigate present trading with.
>>55730183
Based indeed.

>> No.55730269

>AMSC dumping before I get to short it
Nooooo superconductors are the future buy buy buy, AMSC +100% EOD FOMO IN MUMU FUCKING SHITS

>> No.55730272

>>55730269
Literally everything is freaking out because of the bullshit credit rating announcement. See you in a week when it's completely forgotten and everything is green again. Bunch of shortsighted faggots.

>> No.55730274

>DXY just went green
Muuuuuuuuuuuu muuuuuuuu!!!!
Are you ready for the games today mumu?
Did you bring your ball?
Are you ready to play?

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>>55730274
It's also now above yesterday's high.
The VIX freefall may be over.

>> No.55730297

>>55730293
>>55730274
So fucking desperately cynical. Lol go short again, I'm sure you won't get rekt like you have been all year

>> No.55730300
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55730300

>Every FAGMAN company could go bankrupt tomorrow and the economy would still be fine

jerome could raise rates to 25 percent and blow them all up at once and society would be fine

>> No.55730305

>US TREASURY EXPECTS TO MAKE INCREMENTAL INCREASES TO TIPS AUCTION SIZES, STARTING WITH $1 BLN INCREASE TO FIVE-YEAR ISSUE IN OCTOBER.
Get dat money, the existing debt won't service itself

>> No.55730307

Is day trading worth it as a leaf? Everyone says you get raped on taxes (this is true for every aspect of leaf life though)
If I make a day trade that earns 6 dollars, that is a capital gain of 6 dollars and 50% is subject to tax as taxable income (roughly 35%)
3 bones taxed at the rate of my income tax.
But I've also read they can arbitrarily decide that your day trading is a business based on an unspecified number of trades where they tax your full capital gain?
What the fuck? How much do you get taxed then?
Do you guys just not report this or what

>> No.55730308

there we go, now yields are spiking

>> No.55730314

>>55730297
Lol. Mumu. You are pathetic. You have not seen what has unfolded in the past week. Your time is over. It is our time now.

>> No.55730324
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>futes

>> No.55730326 [DELETED] 

So America has dog shit credit rating now? This happened under Obama, and now happened during the Harris administration. Why do we continue to let black people destroy our country's credit score. I hate it.

>> No.55730327

>>55730307
>worrying about taxes
I'll never understand that, whether you gain 5% a year or 400% a year, taxes aren't really a factor, just do the trades you have to do.

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>>55730308

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Are we slruping or dumping?

>> No.55730350

>>55730342
last time there was a 2 week dump

>>55730269
snmp would have been the short. its down 30% almost premarket.

>> No.55730351

>>55730327
Based and I agree I am asking because Id like to have an idea of how much of my profit I must set aside, assuming I make a profit

>> No.55730352

Let me guess: stocks green by noon and treasury yields up 30bps across the board

>> No.55730355
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55730355

>the interest payments on the government's debt rose 50% in one year
uhhhhhhh

>> No.55730356

I apologize. When I started pointing out DXY correlations, I never imagined some schizo would co-opt the idea and use it to spam obnoxious shitposts.

>> No.55730365

>>55730352
I feel like that is what is going to happen too anon lol

>> No.55730375

>>55730307
>>55730327
Agreed, do not get the midwit arguments of avoiding trading to avoid paying taxes. Yeah it sucks the government is taking your winnings but it’s still more money than you had before, should you not even work either? That’s gonna get taxed too. Fucking moronic argument

>> No.55730378

>>55730365
The Fitch downgrade just further makes the case that megacap tech stocks are the new safe havens. I guess we'll see IG corporate debt yielding lower than treasury yields at some point

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>futures

>> No.55730386

Anyone treating a US credit score announcement as important also probably thinks the "war" in Ukraine is worth worrying about, or was one of the dumbshits freaking out about the debt ceiling. I get it, I was 14 once too. Maybe just shut the fuck up and watch it unfold so you realize that you're wrong.

>> No.55730391

>>55729981
Built for BDC

>> No.55730393

>>55730386
Lol get heemed bulltard

>> No.55730394
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>>55730355
Its almost time

>> No.55730398

>>55730393
I'm up 150% YTD, wbu? :)

>> No.55730400

>>55730356
Lmaooo. You really think you're the only person who knows about the dollar correlation with the markets?
How full of yourself are you. Lmfao.
>before I posted about the dollar, nobody else in /smg/ knew about it!!
Lmao. We have been talking about the dollar since 2018, literally predating /smg/ to robinhood general
Get over yourself faggot

>> No.55730401

>>55730386
>just shut the fuck up and watch it unfold so you realize that you're wrong.
last time this happened the market dropped 40%

>> No.55730403

>>55730375
I think it's only an argument if you suck just bad enough at active trading that you'll make gains but underperform holding VOO.

>> No.55730409

>>55730401
Market will pump hard today. Fitch downgrade is bullish because it means tech stocks are the new safe haven. Higher treasury yields and lower corporate yields

>> No.55730410

>>55730401
>dumbass shortsighted chimpanzees freak out when told to freak out
Wow color me shocked

>> No.55730411

>>55730386
>what was the financial crisis

>> No.55730422

>>55730411
LOL there it is. You just know the absolute bottom-of-the-barrel bears are in here when they start comparing things to 2008. Lmao.

>> No.55730425

>>55730393
I'm 50% cash and desperately waiting for a bigger correction. You guys have been getting my hopes up all year now, but turns out that 2022 was a generational bottom after all.

>> No.55730429

>>55730410
just watch it unfold so you realize you're wrong

>> No.55730431

>>55730386
war is bad for the market. it increases uncertainty.

no war = calmer market

>> No.55730434

>>55730422
You seem upset. :^)

>> No.55730435

We aren't going any higher mumu. This is your last chance to get out while you still can. Futures aren't looking to good for you.

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>>55730401
>>55730411
>downgrade to AA+ is the same as millions of americans defaulting on their mortgages resulting in the loss of trillions of dollars that were betting people would pay their mortgages

>> No.55730442

>>55730398
Anyone used smileys on fucking 4chan should be euthanized you absolute faggot
>>55730425
I’m not a bear or a bull, I day/swing/momentum trade. I just like stirring the pot

>> No.55730448

>>55730400
No shit I didn't invent the dollar, retard. But have made a habit of posting about it recently.

Anyway. dollar is stronger than 2018, yields are higher, and the stock market is up massively. I thought DXY rising was bearish as fuck. How is this possible???

>> No.55730453

>>55730352
maxx out credit cards and go all in maxx leverage spy never sell

>> No.55730456

>>55730439
Interesting, almost as if the Fed has been looking for something like that as an excuse to stop hiking

>> No.55730462

I’m going balls deep in $blgo and you should too

>> No.55730464

>>55730453
Why not? All of the news that came out was bullish. Fitch downgrade means corporate debt is safer than treasuries. YCC tweak means that yields go higher which is bullish for stocks. Bad economic data is bullish too

>> No.55730466

DO I BUY CALLS OR PUTS IT JUST KEEPS GOING DOWN

>> No.55730469

>>55730466
if you don't know then don't do anything

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>>55730442

>> No.55730475

>>55730462
I’m going balls deep in SQQQ.
This fake and gay market is finally almost over. Smell ya later mumu

>> No.55730476

>>55730469
You might save me some money today

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>>55730448
>have made a habit of posting about it recently
Lmao. You are delusional and full of yourself.
>When I started pointing out DXY correlations, I never imagined some schizo would co-opt the idea and use it to spam obnoxious shitposts.
OMG, someone co-opted your idea!!!
Nobody knew about the dollar, nobody knew about the correlation it had with the markets, until you posted! Thank you so much for sharing this IDEA with us, that is now being co-opted!! Nobody else knew about this IDEA until you brought it to our attention! Thank you so much anon, you are so wise!!
>How is this possible???
Liquidity. It's all liquidity. More dollars, chasing the same stocks.
https://apolloacademy.com/sp500-and-fed-qe-highly-correlated/
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-incredible-chart-shows-the-close-relationship-between-the-s-p-500-and-fed-liquidity-166542a7
https://archive.is/VeEZ7
Guess what has happened to this liquidity vs the market over the past month or two?
I'll give you a hint.. massive divergence, the largest divergence since 2008

>> No.55730480

>>55730469
Good advice. Always fuck myself making moves I’m not sure on when instead I should just chill

>> No.55730490

>>55730479
>money is related to market
Nah ur crazy desu

>> No.55730495

>>55730479
Now THIS is schizoposting

>> No.55730502

What the FUCK is wrong with NIO all my gains got wiped out in 2 days
Why is it dumping on bad news abot America it's a Chinese company for fuck's sake

>> No.55730506

It's over mumus

>> No.55730511

>>55730502
I’m bagholding 50 shares of NIO and I’m down like $1500 on it lmao fuck that company

>> No.55730527

>>55730511
I can't believe this shit yesterday we're fine now it just decides to ninjadump in after-hours and go below my fucking stop loss
The time it took me to write this post it dumped another 1%

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>>55730495
Lol. Yeah, totally. Fed liquidity has no influence, no correlation with the market.

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55730535

>Fitch downgrades US credit rating seemingly at random
>Oh interesting who's in charge of Fitch?
>Oh shit Fitch is owned by Hearst
>A humongous media conglomerate who has been trying to influence American politics for a century
Jesus fucking christ it's so tiring

>> No.55730537

>>55730464
Yields go higher mean more people buy.

>> No.55730542

>>55730535
Can you blame them? Treasury wants 1.1 trillion dollars this quarter alone.

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55730544

top o' the market to you

>> No.55730552

>>55730502
>buying chinkshit
Deserved

>> No.55730555

>>55730542
So?? "Jesus christ the national debt is insane!!!!" has been happening since I was in high school, which was 15 years ago. Literally nothing will happen.

>> No.55730562

>>55730537
whos buying treasuries when you can make 100%+/year with tech stocks?

>> No.55730563
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whhhooooooah boy
SUB 56 BOIL
sheeeeeeeeeit

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55730573

>vix sisters

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55730576

Guess I might slurp some more UNG today.

>> No.55730577

>>55730529
>Liquidity. It's all liquidity. More dollars, chasing the same stocks.
...and yet DXY has increased.

It's not the fact that you're mentioning DXY that bothers me. It's that you have no fucking clue how to interpret it. DXY is a relative index, comparing USD to a basket of foreign currencies; mainly euros.
When every currency is being inflated to shit, the US dollar simply has to inflate at a marginally slower rate and DXY will moon. Meanwhile, there's still shitloads of inflation going on creating more dollars and pumping stocks to infinity.

Check out Caracas General or Merval for some prime examples of this beautiful phenomenon.

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>>55730562
>who's buying treasuries
Nobody is, that's why yields keep going up

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55730589

any long Chads ready to ride out this market blood bath? why time the market when you can just buy VOO, VTI and forget about it for another year?

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55730591

So how rich am I going to be?

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55730597

predict market open

>> No.55730604
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>>55730591
you got at least 10k, prolly 4.00 or a little more each.

>> No.55730605

>>55730589
>blood bath
I genuinely don't think anything is going to happen, at least not for more than a few days. Credit rating is a humongous nothingburger.

>> No.55730611

>>55730605
Everything is a nothing burger when euphoria is at all time high. A nuke could go off and you'd still be buying because you don't have anything better to do with your money

>> No.55730612
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>>55730576
I boughted bunches, and more BOIL.

>> No.55730613
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>>55730577
Anon. I'm not linking the two lmao. You are.
You asked "How could markets rise while the dollar and rates are higher than it was then??"
The main reason is liquidity, Fed liquidity. It has nothing to do with the dollar lmao.
You're a retard. You think you're smarter than you are. You're not. Lmao.
Again, people in /smg/ have been trading for longer than you have been alive zoomer. We know how the dollar basket works lmao. You don't need to explain this shit to anyone. You're retarded and missing the point.

>> No.55730615

>>55730502
>>55730511
>chasing AFTER the massive pump
don’t do this

>> No.55730621

>>55730611
>Euphoria at all time high
Lol

>> No.55730624

>>55730576
Get that DCA down bro
>>55730597
-.5%
Ends day -1% after slowly crabbing down

>> No.55730625

>>55730613
Why line go down and not spy?

>> No.55730627
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>>55730605
>they’re starting to throw around “nothingburger”
QUINTESSENTIALLY BEARISH

>> No.55730628
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55730628

is this bullish or bearish?

>> No.55730629

>>55730605
The only thing I'm debating is selling off my long position only to reenter at a lower price. But considering how I'm an amateur trader it's probably best to do nothing.

>> No.55730630
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>> No.55730631

WATCH OUT HE HAS A GUN!!!

>> No.55730637

>>55730621
We've set at extreme greed for over 2 months my man the longest since before covid that's called EUPHORIA.

>> No.55730639

>>55730630

LET ‘ER RIP BABYYYY

>> No.55730640

>>55730625
It will. Only a matter of time. That's the whole point. It's all propped up by Fed liquidity - they have been able to fill the shortfall through BTFP
see >>55730529 it's all the liquidity provided through BTFP program that is filling this 'gap'
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/H41RESPPALDKNWW

>> No.55730642

>>55730591
Post update

>> No.55730645
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>slurp the natgas dipperino
>it keeps going down because "temps are going down in omaha"
Literally who cares about omaha holy shit. Arizona and Texas have 40 million people between them and are constantly setting new temperature records this month, doesn't that count for anything? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, when has nebraska ever mattered for anything?

>> No.55730650

>>55730642
15k

>> No.55730653
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55730653

kek baggies

>> No.55730654

Quick when do I buy calls??

>> No.55730655

Holy VIX computer

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>>55730645
>when has nebraska ever mattered for anything?
I'll give you exactly 45 seconds to take that back.

>> No.55730667

>>55730654
PUTS YOU MORON. PUTS!
Do you want to stay poor forever?!

>> No.55730673

>>55730613
More schizo shitposting, zero substance. Sad, honestly.

You're so close, but just can't quite get your brain to process what I actually wrote. Try looking back to the original post. What was actually written?
>When I started pointing out DXY correlations, I never imagined some schizo would co-opt the idea and use it to spam obnoxious shitposts.

If you're aware that DXY is irrelevant to your (unsubstantiated) thesis, maybe stop using it as a basis for your shitposting?
If you still can't remember, as a courtesy I'll even link you directly to it: >>55730274

I've got trades to make. Enjoy the rest of your rambling.

>> No.55730675

>The US credit rating was downgraded at random!
>BETTER SELL ALL OF MY SEMICONDUCTORS
lol wtf even is this shit

>> No.55730681

>>55730664
that faggot needs to get off his ass and get Cove Point back running.

>> No.55730683

>market opens and I'm already down 3%
Fucking hell.

>> No.55730684

will SOXL bounce off 26$?

>> No.55730688

>>55730667
Dude I'm a Bobo by heart but SPY has literally not had a red candle last more than a day in the last 3 months. Realistically, why would it keep dumping? JUST TELL ME WHEN TO BUY CALLS I'M NOT GETTING FUCKED AGAIN!!

>> No.55730702

STOP THE SELL!

>> No.55730706

TUP sisters...

>> No.55730708

>>55730683
I was already telling my friend i would invite him some pizza yesterday after AMD pumped after-hours
Now that I got this cosmic rugpull out of fucking nowhere I barely managed to hit sell fast enough to sell at break even price
Hurts so fucking much

>> No.55730709
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55730709

Time to go shopping anon.

>> No.55730711

>>55730664
What's weirder is that he never made Omaha into one of the Big Cities of the USA with his jillions. Imagine 10 million assholes just in the Omaha metro area, the fourth largest in america. Instead there are like 1 million, the 75th largest.

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>>55730628
Looks like a back (front?) test of previous level before heading lower but I die grass.

>> No.55730717

>>55730688
>what is a blow off top

>> No.55730719
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I MUST SLURPPPPP

>> No.55730722

we're going down until the majority of /smg/ is bobo posting

>> No.55730723

>>55730673
I just want to make clear that you're a huge faggot.
>If you're aware that DXY is irrelevant
Anon.. it is relevant.. but what is more powerful than moves in the dollar, is Fed liquidity. You asked "How could the market rise while yields went up and the dollar went up since 2018, higher yields and higher dollar are supposed to be bearish!!"
They are. Lmao.
But it doesn't matter if the dollar rises by 20% if the Fed doubles the money supply in 2-3 years lmao.
The dollar rising is extremely bearish for equities, for more reasons than just
>dollar up = stocks down
When the dollar rises, not only do foreign investors have to pay more to buy US stocks, but corporate profits are dented by foreign consumers decreasing their quantity demanded at each price
The dollar is extremely correlated with equities, as are bonds. This is fucking basic shit. If you are contesting that the dollar and bonds influence equities.. I don't even know what to tell you. You're just fucking retarded.
>NOOO!! SEE!! HIGHER DOLLAR AND HIGHER RATES AREN'T BEARISH FOR EQUITIES!!
>SEE, EQUITIES ARE HIGHER THAN THEY WERE IN 2018 WHEN THE DOLLAR WAS LOWER AND RATES WERE LOWER!!
You're retarded. Kill yourself.

>> No.55730725
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55730725

> muh earnings muh bobos btfo

Stop beheeming yourself mumus

>> No.55730729

>>55730667
>>55730688
It will realistically not keep dumping. Why? Because it's the beginning of august. Every time a BIG EVENT happens all the mongs in this thread go "THIS IS IT, BIG COVID DUMP TO ZERO" and nothing happens. In 2020 you kept having shit like evergreen or bank defaults but none of that mattered until 2022 when we went down for like 9 months. It was a slow boil of shit, with the FED unwinding, leading to market sharting.

There's no reason to think it'll meaningfully go down right now. Even historically there's no reason. Try september, when market volume goes way up as companies rebalance their portfolios. It's always september that signals the start of some shit.

>> No.55730730

Buy amd, it will go green by eod. Or maybe not idk

>> No.55730733

RIP Charlie Sheen

>> No.55730737

it's so weird how zoomers that come here pick up our phrases and misuse them, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them "schizo", you don't belong here and you don't fit in

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>>55730722
You obviously haven't been paying attention, bobo been loud lately.

>> No.55730743

>>55730688
>Dude I'm a Bobo by heart
>why would it keep dumping?

Why lie?

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>>55730729
Whatever you say, man.

>> No.55730745

>>55730729
You're not the first guy to mention Stember as a red month why is that? Is it really just rebalancing that causes that?

>> No.55730750

>>55730744
It's exactly as I say, retard. Every time, like Evergreen, you retards come in her screaming buy puts and then everyone gets rekt by the return to normal pump.

>> No.55730751

Tsly sisters distributions drop tomorrow. Let’s hope for another 75%

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Well, try that in a small town
See how far ya make it down the road
Around here, we take care of our own
You cross that line, it won't take long
For you to find out, I recommend you don't
Try that in a small town

>> No.55730754

>>55730711
Less weird when you look at the Big Cities™ nowadays

>> No.55730759

>>55730745
It is always a red month. In stock trading there are things you don't fight. September is red, don't be long in september.

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>>55730729
Cope

>> No.55730764

Well made a quick $500 on a put I bought yesterday, wonder if it's time for a call

>> No.55730773

>>55730759
>Don't be long in ______
Seriously? That's not the definition of "long" you goddamn mong

>> No.55730776

>nio dumps to 13.60
>perfectly hits my stop loss
>instantly rebounds to 14.10
every fucking time with this shit market
every fucking time

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>boss schedules meeting during my most common pooping time AND i'm losing money on my calls
not cool

>> No.55730785

Please Elon save Tesla. My money

>> No.55730792

>be me
>set limit buy for DIS below $88, usually $87.50
>it hits for 200 shares
>immediately set limit sell for a prices above $89
>later that week, it hits
>repeat the cycle
easiest weekly $250+ I’ve ever made. Sometimes you can even get in lower and sell higher

>> No.55730797

Short PLTR

>> No.55730801
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55730801

still extremely bullish with no fucks given. buying more.

>> No.55730805

>>55730784
fuck off jobfag lol

>> No.55730809

>amd drilling to the center of the earth
I literally haven't bought anything since last October. Sorry for killing the bull guys

>> No.55730810

>>55730745
there are a lot of contributing factors that make Septembers generally bad months (as well as October)
all of these contribute, or are thought to contribute:
>everyone goes on break during summer months, returns in the Fall
>big spike in volume as they return
>families paying for their kids college tuition need to liquidate assets to pay
>hedge funds / big money comes into September already +20% on the year - they don't want to pull out completely, but they will rebalance heavily
>rebalancing of all funds
>September, big quarterly expiration (December, March, June, September)
>one month before elections (November) political uncertainty - globally as well, not just US, most elections in Autumn
>can be the end of fiscal year for some companies
>historical events such as 1929, 2008, etc in mindset of investors
>self-fulfilling prophecy, that everyone expects it to be bad (just as people expect January to be good, January effect)
>tax loss harvesting done in September, especially by mutual funds where many fiscal year ends September (and they need to rebalance / harvest)

>> No.55730811

so were american superconductors just a meme after all or is today the opportunity to get in before the real take-off?

>> No.55730820

>>55730776
it KEEPS going up
are you FUCKING SERIOUS

>> No.55730822
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IS THIS THE BIG ONE

>> No.55730824

>>55730811
The only meme is Arizonans.

The TSMC plant in Arizona was delayed because there is a lack of skilled workers.

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>>55730822
nope

>> No.55730829

>>55730776
Stop losses have only ever fucked me over exactly like this every single time I've ever used one, so I just don't use them anymore.

>> No.55730835

You GAYS told me we’d be printing money in august and in the red in September

>> No.55730837

>>55730811
This is literally another Evergrande or Trump Has Covid or War in Ukraine contrived freakout. It's fucking amazing how everything went from right on the line of technically overbought to oversold in a single day.

>> No.55730838

>>55730776
yeah you have to put your stop outside the obvious zone

>> No.55730840

>>55730822
Naw just slurp semis, soxl going back to $80

>> No.55730844

>>55730835
september is historically the low of the year, then it takes off

>> No.55730847

>>55730837
It’s a bear trap for sure. But it’s going to be a 2 week long bear trap with individual stocks occasionally pumping to feed into the fomo.

>> No.55730851

>>55730327
Stupid take. You can’t really write off your losses so taxes make the risk massively weighted. All of the downside risk is there and now with taxes factored in the upside potential is significantly reduced.

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>>55730829
Yeah you should only use stop wins never a stoploss, sometimes a glitch wick takes you out. i never use them anymore either.

>> No.55730858

>>55730847
I think you're probably right, especially looking at where most things are in relation to their 200dma. I'm guessing the catalyst for the next larger pump will be no rate hike in September.

>> No.55730859

Why exactly is the market dumping? Is it really the credit rating?

>> No.55730861

>>55730829
I have the same experience too. I use price alerts as an alternative. I don't care what others say, these fuckers keep track of people's stop loss.

>> No.55730862

>>55730851
>losing year
>don't pay taxes
>winning year
>pay taxes proportional to your gains
I don't see the problem.

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>>55730844
>september is historically the low of the year, then it takes off

?

>> No.55730866

>>55730837
>he thinks that this is just about the downgrade
>he doesn't know about the Japanese bonds
>he doesn't know about the carry trade unwind
>he doesn't know about the ECB dovishness
>he doesn't know about the dollar rising
>he doesn't know about the ADP data
>he doesn't know about yields spiking higher
>he really thinks this is just about the downgrade
Anon.. even if it was just about the downgrade, which it isn't - let me be clear - it is still a much, much larger event than "Evergrande" or "Trump covid" --- you could argue "Well it's only Fitch, not Moody's or Standard Poor's" --- this has more merit as an argument than 'it's not a big deal'
>War in Ukraine freakout
lmao. We started dumping before the war in Ukraine began, initial catalyst was Fed minutes indicating extreme need for extreme hawkishness - but the war in Ukraine also helped lead to a huge decline in equities for many months. This is a very bad example.

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>>55730859
Retard

>> No.55730874

Won't anyone slurp AMSC? I missed my short entry point.

>> No.55730878

Any earnings or news today that may trigger harder dumps?

>> No.55730879

>>55730859
Yes. This is all the bears who have been getting utterly fucking assraped all year trying to desperately make their money back on new shorts. Just like every other time, they're just being greedy shortsighted cynics and most of them will lose money again.

>> No.55730887

>>55730866
LOL

>> No.55730895

>expected a hard drop after the rating decrease
>wow it's fucking nothing
fuck sake man, I keep delaying buying stocks because I want a dip already

>> No.55730898

>>55730809
I take it you bought and this happens near the timing? Yeah I know that feel.
>finally go through with a gamble
>realize Im a few days late but also realize that I have to jump in now otherwise Ill miss it and have to wait
>jump in
>ends up crabbing for the most part
>dumps hard today
Yeah it gets pretty demoralizing. I just want to be rich

>> No.55730896

>>55730859
Entire market is propped up by a few earners. Everything else is overbought by big institutions. If you’re long FAGMAN you’ll be fine long-term, but just wait till Morgan Stanley et al get a little cautious and start rebalancing into bonds and other safe havens. Any non-profitable company is going to eat shit.

I think it’s a great time to be in the DOW. This will be an upset for a time, but value stocks have been doing great, while growth stocks are all based on “muh AI” bs. You’ll still be fine holding NVDA or TSLA, because they actually produce tangible goods and turn a profit, but I wouldn’t expect this level of growth to maintain either.

>> No.55730900

>>55730866
The bull run ran right though multiple bank failures, multiple rate hikes, reduced earnings, etc. It's literally different this time and unstoppable. Some rando you've never heard of before says AA+? Pfft, nothing burger. Nvidia to $500+ after earnings, soxl to $80

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>>55730861
Yeah I'm convinced stop loss hunting is a real thing. I imagine some algorithm causing a huge scamwick just to liquidate me then going "Thanks for the cheap shares retard. Beep boop"

>> No.55730906

>>55730864
yeah it's only a tiny bottom. i confused it with the dxy

>> No.55730907
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55730907

A MILITARY HELICOPTER JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE WHAT IS HAPPENING SMG AAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.55730908

>>55730878
Looking at the calendars, nope. That's pretty much it on relevant financial news. The Fitch report or whatever wasn't on the calendar so that came as a surprise.

Only other thing that could cause a dump is if tensions on the Polish and Belarusian border start increasing more than earlier this morning. Polish officials reported that military helicopters crossed into Polish airspace below radar detection but civilians and military personnel caught them.

>> No.55730910

>>55730895
Sounds like we're just gonna fucking tank immediately after you buy
Do the needful sir

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>>55730907

>> No.55730925

>>55730908
UK gonna hike rates again this week. AAPL may miss earnings. Lots of bad shit could happen, but those 2 are just off the top of my head.

>> No.55730939

>>55730925
Missing earning is bullish cause it means more growth later. Tim Apple just needs to say Siri AI or some shit and the stock will do +25% easy

>> No.55730944

>>55730810
Thanks anon

>> No.55730946

SOXL sisters, you ok?

>> No.55730952

>>55730908
If that’s true Beleruis is about to get wiped off the face of the planet, first class delivery of democracy
>>55730899
Now THIS is an excellent image

>> No.55730955

psq anyone?

>> No.55730963

>>55730946
I'm slurping every dip and picking out the color of my lambo

>> No.55730965

>>55730900
>Some rando you've never heard of before says AA+?
This is so disingenuous it has to be shilling. Yeah, it makes no difference at all that a company owned by Hearst dropped a bOmBsHeLL spooky headline overnight that has economic and political implications for the US. They also totally had no influence over the Spanish-American war. Bunch of dumbshits.

>> No.55730964

>>55730862
You don’t just not pay taxes, you also lost money on your investments. Taxes tilt the whole game against you. It’s like playing roulette but if you win you only win half as much as when you lose.

>> No.55730971

>>55730964
Can you not subtract losses from future gains in your cunt?

>> No.55730975
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55730975

There seem to be a lot of very upset cows in this thread

>> No.55730980 [DELETED] 

>>55730965
Hearst is dead. Biden will silence any criticism and this story will be buried by eow when we hit aths. Sorry you missed the bull run Trumpy. Eat shit and die

>> No.55730995

>>55730946
I’m buying when it hits 6 dollars again

>> No.55731003
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55731003

>unsustainable debt levels, auto, student, credit, personal, mortgage
>extreme housing bubble, all time high 30%+ income on housing
>consumer is broke, no savings by October
>inflation is spiking higher, no more base effects
>interest rates higher for longer; more zombie company failures, lower growth, more bank failures if 10yr approaches 4.5%
>complete collapse in global trade, each month countries report doing 10% less exports from the previous month
>China recession
>EU recession
>dollar rising
>earnings collapse for 3 consecutive quarters
>1.73 standard deviations wilshire 5k ratio; 50% more bubble than dotcom peak
>**20x forward multiple** on S&P500 earnings (this is very expensive, going into a recession)
>earnings margin collapse, profit margin collapse market wide
>only in nominal terms are things "rosy"
>spiking delinquencies / defaults on all forms of credit
>new housing construction falling during strong summer months, in spite of strong demand
>more corporate bankruptcies this year than any other previous by this time of year
>yield curve inversion + uninversion in future
>130% debt to GDP
>$1 trillion in debt service
>other nations dropping dollars for trade, petrodollar is kill
>PMI / ISM collapse
>new orders / backlog of orders collapse
>commodity prices rising sharply (inflationary)
>consumer is kill, and will be even more kill in the Autumn
>crowding out effect from Janet Yellen issuance backlog
>Japan ending / lifting YCC, carry trade unwind
>ECB more dovish = dollar rise
>yields rising
>all time high paycheck to paycheck before student loan repayment resumes
>underwater autoloans
>collapsing commercial real estate value 60%+ value haircuts
>deposit outflows, commercial real estate collapse, inverted yield curve crushing banks - solvency banking crisis looms
>EU PMI collapse
>Fed liquidity vs S&P500 divergence
NOW ALSO
>US credit downgrade
/smg/: "Wow! We're really dumping on JUST a credit downgrade?? That's crazy, that's nothing!!"
L m a o.

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55731004

>>55730684
time to slurp?

>> No.55731007

>>55730946
bought the dip. this is a nothingburger and we are going to rebound hard.

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>>55730975
We haven't seen these prices since 7/18!

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>>55730975
>S&P500 didn't even drop a whole point yet
mumus are doing fine, I want it to drop harder, this shit is barely bearish

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>>55730975
I'm slurping a little but I'm waiting til September to REALLY slurp hard.

>> No.55731028

>>55731003
Bullish. We pumped through all that noise and we will continue pumping. Getting nervous Bobo?

>> No.55731029

>>55731007
>wasted my money. This is big, and we are going to dump hard.
FTFY

>> No.55731030

>>55730971
Maximum is $3k a year lmao. USA.

>> No.55731040

>>55731010
Market doesn’t normally drop in August. Only JPow can really influence the market in a way to make it mega drop. I wouldn’t expect any significant downturn before Labor Day

>> No.55731041
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55731041

>Bears posting longwinded explanations of why THIS time it's different
Christ can we just fast forward to the part where it turns out you're wrong [as always]?

>> No.55731043

>>55731028
>Getting nervous Bobo?
Lol. Lmao even.

>> No.55731056

>>55731029
I'm holding SOXX and I'm up 37% this year and not even 2% down today. Why are you bobos always acting like any red day is some kind of financially devastating event for bulls?

>> No.55731061

>>55731028
if it was really that big of a deal the sp would be -3% AT LEAST. this is literally nothing, and honestly kind of pathetic that you doomer bobo dipshits are creaming yourselves over this after taking L's all year. i've made a shit load of money being a permabull, and i will continue to be a permabull

>> No.55731064
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>>55731041
you will not deny us our longstanding /smg/ traditions.
if we're wrong then we're wrong but this time I'm making money pal

>> No.55731070

Retard here, is there a way to do more complex sell orders. For example, stop loss orders are susceptible to short term drops (scam wicks), but if it was possible to make a sell order where the drop is integrated over some specified time frame, then a short drop below the target wouldn't btrigger the sell, only if the drop was severe or for long enough. I guess the most flexible way would be programmable orders but I'm sure this isn't a thing in dadfi.

>> No.55731075
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55731075

this is the only green thing in my whole watchlist
perhaps it's time to slurp

>> No.55731076
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55731076

>>55731030
>gives incomplete information
$3k max in the hole NET, for all trades, yes. but you can carry over any losses that exceed the $3k net over to following years you STUPID BITCH

>> No.55731077

>>55731056
Because they got completely buttdevastated this year after getting lucky last year

>> No.55731084

>>55731056
when you get your shit pushed in for a year it's not surprising to see them celebrate small wins

>> No.55731090

bobros? its time.
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1690986262713796.webm

>> No.55731092

>>55731061
It's so stupid. Everyday the market starts blood red and then ends neon green. I don't think there's been a losing week on the Nasdaq this year. The doom and gloom was so overdone. The money printers are on again and the lower rating just proves the bull run is real

>> No.55731095

>>55730964
a bloo bloo, stop losing money then

>> No.55731096
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55731096

I slurped

>> No.55731104

FITCH'S REINSTATES AMERICA'S AAA RATING
FITCH'S REINSTATES AMERICA'S AAA RATING
FITCH'S REINSTATES AMERICA'S AAA RATING
FITCH'S REINSTATES AMERICA'S AAA RATING
FITCH'S REINSTATES AMERICA'S AAA RATING

>> No.55731109

>>55731077
>>55731084
>everyone bobo now has been bobo forever
>nobody has EVER changed their minds

The absolute state of /smg/

>> No.55731114

>>55731030
are you dumb? if you make $50k trading stocks and lose $30k in bad trade, you only pay taxes on $20k

>> No.55731115

Just slurped Amazon so make sure you guys get out before earnings.

>> No.55731121

Being a bond bull must be suffering

>> No.55731124

you guys really should know if yellen doesnt like the downgrade then plunge protection team is out in full force
sorry bobo
you got to cum a little bit but youll never fully cum

>> No.55731133

>>55731104
source?

>> No.55731136

>>55731104
Fake news. You made me look though.

>> No.55731141

What a boring ass day

>> No.55731145

>>55731121
We'll all be bond bulls at Christmas.

>> No.55731148
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55731148

>>55731124
You think the Fed will turn QE back on just like that? Even the limited QE they did during the bank crisis has now been fully reversed

>> No.55731160

>>55731148
theyve had it on since silicon valley bank bro where have you been

>> No.55731165

>>55731148
>>55731124
>heh jokes on you we will hyperinflate the currency away
Ok...??? lol??

>> No.55731174

beginning to think MPW has a floor set at 9.7, every morning when it drops to it explodes back up a bit.

>> No.55731175
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55731175

>>55731148
may i humbly request $LEI and $WIRP?

>> No.55731184

>>55731165
what will happen is the dollar will go to 0 and they will just make a new currency (tha dolla) that has niggers on every bill, perhaps even multiple niggers, and its through that that the fed will engineer the soft landing because surely everyone will be happy with their new nigger money

>> No.55731185
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55731185

>>55731160
>theyve had it on since silicon valley bank
Are you retarded? Fed assets are a full $99 billion lower than pre-bank crisis

>> No.55731186

>>55731148
And it certainly is showing right? How's your puts doing my man? QE/QT is all farcical at this point it's pretty difficult to ascertain when or how the market will crash (whci it will) outside of the fed liquidity but I'm tired of hearing the OH ITS THE DOLLAR OH ITS THE YIELDS OH ITS BIDEN BEING ASSASSINATED it's never anything because there's a mountain of cash on the sidelines held by elites because the fed printed 80% of the money supply in 8 months.

>> No.55731195
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55731195

>mfw no slurp fund

>> No.55731196

>>55731184
Obviously, that is the only thing you can do with a currency when its completely fucked, I don't know why bulls think that is good however

>> No.55731197

>>55730234
kek

>> No.55731203

>>55731185
are you retarded? you believe the data they let you see is the only data, lmao

>> No.55731209

>>55731203
retard

>> No.55731210

>>55730939
Yesterday, Last Call on CNBC noted that earnings calls mentioned AI an average of 50 times to get those sweet sweet investors excited

>> No.55731213
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55731213

>>55731175
WIRP, idk what LEI is

>>55731203
>trust me bro, they've actually added hundreds of billions to the balance sheet. QE is back on
>no I don't have any evidence to support this and actually your data is fake

With arguments like these you can never be wrong

>> No.55731219
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55731219

>>55731213
leading economic indicators i think, blessed ty anon

>> No.55731220

>>55731196
the finesse to the idea is that niggers are very popular right now, even worshipped, so transitioning to tha dolla will be very easy before the dollar fully crashes and burns
>>55731213
only argument i need is post how much money youve made lifetime from pretending to be smart and well informed wrt to financial markets, lmao
if you know everything then you should never lose and have made infinite money, yes?

>> No.55731224
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55731224

HOLY FUCKIN FUCK
BOILED ALIVE!!!

>> No.55731237
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55731237

>The second I buy bond ETFs, bogs are loading the ze credit rating fud
I'll keep buying until the US has the same credit rating as greece

>> No.55731245
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55731245

>TOTAL COMMODITY DEATH
Holy hell, DXY once again to the moon. Copper is dead, gold down to 1800... why in hell didn't I sell? Seriously, how do you deal with the retardedness of commodities?

>> No.55731251

>>55730615
I’ve been bagholding the shares since 2020, didn’t sell at the top in 2021 cuz I didn’t know what I was doing. Haven’t bought any recently

>> No.55731255

>>55731076
>>55731114
>Have a $400k loss one year in trades
>Only $75k in income that year
>I can carry over the $325k loss to future years
>Takes 108 years to fully write off my loss

>> No.55731265
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55731265

>>55731219
like this?

>>55731220
>being this assmad

They literally update the balance sheet stats every wednesday, nothing genius about looking at what that's doing to tell whether the QT campaign is continuing or not. If you have a non schizo reason to believe the fed's asset data is falsified or misleading I'll happily hear it out, but otherwise please take it to >>>/x/

>post how much money youve made lifetime

Enough that people now pay me to make them money, hence the fancy yahoo finance screenshots

>> No.55731267

>>55730723
>all this text
>still has no point
lmao.

>> No.55731282

I DIDN'T FAIL THE SYSTEM
THE SYSTEM FAILED ME

>> No.55731286

>>55730861
>>55730899
It is. If you learn to read price action it’s pretty obvious where the average joe is going to be putting their stops. And the algorithms that control price 100% seek pools of liquidity where those buys and sell stops are. I still use a stop, but a very large one for that reason. I usually go with -30%, that way if it really runs against me I don’t get heemed so hard, but can still tolerate pull backs.

>> No.55731290

>>55731267
You're retarded. Genuinely retarded.

>> No.55731301
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>>55731265
Beautiful yeah this one. I see it get pointed to a ton for use in a bear case or to ride mike wilson's dick. Do you think my bias is correct thinking a capitulation event will occur at the first rate cut and not before? barring acts of god.

>> No.55731303
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55731303

July 20th low S&P broken
10y above 4.1
DXY --> moon
VIX hungry for 16

>> No.55731309
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55731309

>>55730723
Then, isn't it good to buy EU stocks that heavily rely on export to the US? Especially if that country's currency is getting weaker and weaker compared to the dollar? I've seen a lot of EU mega companies reporting massive currency effects due to a strong dollar... Hmmm, time to buy Volvo and similar

>> No.55731313

>>55730964
>>55730971
Yes
>>55731030
Retard
>>55731076
>>55731114
At least some anons get this shit. How are the rest of you retards trading stocks and you don’t even fully know the rules around taxes on them

>> No.55731328

guess the fed aint gonna do shit and tlt is just gonna go to 0

>> No.55731330

>>55731030
Rough, in the UK it's basically infinite but you can only subtract it from CGT whereas I think in the US you can also subtract from income tax?

>> No.55731334
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55731334

My SPY puts are printing

>> No.55731345
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55731345

>>55731309
EU companies will get a boost by the euro weakening, where they'll see increased sales / increased demand from foreign buyers
however that boost will not be greater than the overall drag down of EU recession
look at pic related - you want to invest in this?
a contrarian might say "Yes please, let me invest, this is clearly the bottom in the economic cycle!"
I don't think it is magically going to get better, especially over the next 2 quarters - will get worse
>time to buy Volvo
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-05/german-carmakers-are-bleakest-about-their-future-since-2008
https://archive.is/gMNqg
>German Carmakers Are Bleakest About Their Future Since 2008
>Manufacturers’ future view deteriorated again in June
a contrarian might say "Wow, it can't get any worse!" --- but in general, I would not buy any company where insiders are extremely bearish on the future for the company and sector lol.

>> No.55731356
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today fucking sucks. why aren't we hanging those niggers in fitch they are committing treason

>> No.55731359
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55731359

So anons is it a good time to spx or will Jerome/AAPL earnings turn things around?

>> No.55731360

>>55731255
Ok technically correct but who the fuck makes a $400k bad trade with only $75k capital gains?
Also are you just never going to make a single trade after that? God you’re fucking dumb and your hypothetical sucks

>> No.55731362

I will took profits on my MPW short. It can now go to $8.

>> No.55731363

>>55731356
Seriously, who gave them the right

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55731373

>>55731359
>good time to spx
I'm fucking retarded I meant is it a good time to short spx?

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55731382

>>55731371
>>55731371
>>55731371

>> No.55731385
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4

>> No.55731393

>>55731290
You have made precisely zero legitimate claims to support your counterargument against my point that DXY has risen over an extended timeframe while stocks and yields have risen massively as well. The point being that liquidity is what matters for stocks, not DXY. The point being that inflation is bullish for assets priced in dollars, and we are still seeing massive monetary inflation as measurable by the government debt.

But go ahead and keep writing massive walls of text calling me a retard. I'm sure that'll convince someone.

>When the dollar rises, not only do foreign investors have to pay more to buy US stocks, but corporate profits are dented by foreign consumers decreasing their quantity demanded at each price
This argument is so naïve I wasn't even going to respond, but I feel pity on you.
All else equal, you might have something of substance here. The critical flaw is that once again you're ignoring inflation. If the euro declines but everyone in Europe has more euros, they can still buy the same goods as always. The result is that the US dollar is stronger (in euros), but that does not matter. They make their budgets in euros and buy what those euros can afford.

>> No.55731394

Tesla can’t go any lower right bros

>> No.55731414

>>55731360
This happened to a ton of anons in crypto in 2021. Especially the ones who didn’t understand that every trade or swap is a taxable event. Lots of people ended up with a huge paper gain in one year followed by a huge paper loss the next (or vice versa) and ended up in that exact situation. A massive tax liability on no real gain that can only be offset $3k a year carried forward.

>> No.55731436

>>55731210
That's hilarious. They need to up the amount if we want to see those p/e ratios soar and bobos stare in disbelief

>> No.55731444
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>>55731345
Volvo (as in the counterpart to Caterpillar not Volvo Group the Chink crap) is great, my man. Great guidance and insane earnings and still very cheap at current P/E (which is like 10 or something). BMW also raised their guidance significantly. The industry is still going strong in Scandinavia and has shown virtually no signs of a slowdown (then again the central banks here are cucked by wealth being giga connected to real estate so unless they wish to crash the entire system, they have no choice but to raise very very slowly which prolongs the insanely high core inflation which is good for the industry)... but I digress.
I dunno, I am still relatively optimistic about the market and the dollar going to the moon has been very very beneficial for Scandinavian stonks. Companies like Astra Zeneca, Volvo, Sandvik...

>> No.55731487

>>55731393
>You have made precisely zero legitimate claims to support your counterargument against my point that DXY has risen over an extended timeframe while stocks and yields have risen massively as well.
Anon. Look at these fucking charts.
>>55730529
>>55730613
Look at this fucking chart.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2SL
>WAOOWW!! THE DXY ROSE AND BOND YIELDS ROSE, AND THE MARKET WENT UP TOO!!
>CLEARLY THE DOLLAR RISING HAS NO EFFECT ON STOCKS
>CLEARLY YIELDS RISING HAS NO EFFECT ON STOCKS
It's liquidity. Jesus christ.
Please, for the love of god, just google and research yourself
>higher yields effect on stocks
>stronger dollar effect on stocks
this is serious basic shit, for you to be contesting that higher yields are bearish and a stronger dollar is bearish, you're seriously, genuinely retarded - and that is why I keep calling you it. This is the equivalent of discussion of
>You have made zero legitimate claims to prove that the Earth isn't flat!!
>I insist the Earth is flat!!
No you fucking retard. Lmao. Higher yields are bearish for equities. A stronger dollar is bearish for equities.
Again, I will reiterate, it doesn't matter if the yields go up if you double the money supply. It doesn't matter if the dollar gets stronger if you double the liquidity. Please look at these fucking graphs. Literally just google anything that I am saying, and you will find it backed up.
>durr no evidence!!
>>55730529
>>55730613
>This argument is so naïve I wasn't even going to respond, but I feel pity on you.
Lmaooo. You are genuinely retarded. This "argument" that you claim is naive is literally, and I mean literally, currency market basics economic theory
>When the dollar rises, not only do foreign investors have to pay more to buy US stocks, but corporate profits are dented by foreign consumers decreasing their quantity demanded at each price
this is 100% accurate - just google it, you fucking retard. You are literally coming here insisting that the Earth is flat

>> No.55731557
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>>55730810
And you can't find this kind of knowledge aggregated so eloquently and concisely anywhere else on this world.

Same to some degree with the other boards.

>> No.55731585

>>55731414
Did I lose track of threads? Am I in a crypto general? Is crypto anything more than gambling?
God I’m so glad this thread is dead. Try to be less retarded in the new one when you get a fresh ID

>> No.55731594

>>55731414
>. A massive tax liability on no real gain that can only be offset $3k a year carried forward.
isn't the 3k limit just on offsetting your taxable income?
If you have a capital gain the next year, I don't think there is a limit

>> No.55732632

>>55731557
4chan is held together by a few generals these days. the /outer/ boards are total shitshows.

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>>55732632

It spreads. Redpills move nearly at the speed of science ™