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/smg/ - STOCK MARKET GENERAL Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:07:10 2023 No.55676456 [Reply] [Original]

Palm Tree's Edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=3273C30FC0E98E61ABE0A24F2146CB74

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Live Economic Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.newslive.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

>BoBo Hopium
https://youtu.be/bbxjTzEbLmI [Embed]

>Misc
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/

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>>	Chad Thu Jul 27 07:08:34 2023 No.55676465 Gme ftw

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:10:13 2023 No.55676472 ENVX, PACW, and TUP will have 150 percent gains today. Source : I can feel it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:12:54 2023 No.55676485 we test 4600

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:14:39 2023 No.55676489 File: 40 KB, 504x438, 1690407825444425.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Only nuclear war could make the yield curve invert this badly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:15:23 2023 No.55676491 File: 2.12 MB, 1856x1474, 1595987163591.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676465 Let it go, lad. Holding out hope for a former p& d to p again is a losing game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:16:01 2023 No.55676494 >>55676472 I've made so much fucking money on PACW. It's fair price is 9.50 after the merger new right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:16:28 2023 No.55676497 File: 491 KB, 1280x720, questions0720.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676489 are you not enjoying bidenomics?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:18:57 2023 No.55676507 File: 74 KB, 941x573, 1689907626002540.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676497 No, I want off Mr. Brandon's wild ride.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:20:58 2023 No.55676510 >>55676494 from what I've seen, the merger doesn't complete until next year and its not clear what price the 65 percent of a BANC share will be, JPM is buying their mortgages now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:32:11 2023 No.55676554 File: 18 KB, 356x224, 1689736547590237.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] YUM

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:33:15 2023 No.55676558 $30 SOXL by end of next week

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:34:11 2023 No.55676564 >>55676489 war is bullish and would fix the economy people need fear

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:35:35 2023 No.55676565 >>55676564 >nuclear armageddon is bullish

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:37:38 2023 No.55676571 File: 10 KB, 96x81, 1678067768589435.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Robbinhood just raised their APY to 4.9% Holy fuck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:39:54 2023 No.55676577 File: 118 KB, 700x600, kot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676558 wait, I am still waiting to buy 300 shares of AMD at $100

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:41:08 2023 No.55676583 Uhhh guys, shit is pumping in the big boy way

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:47:20 2023 No.55676605 File: 25 KB, 287x309, 1674272289453194.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676583 >oil

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:53:35 2023 No.55676624 File: 101 KB, 1200x768, 1675715762495510.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676605 My shell shares dont. And PLEASE stop posting goblinas. I dare you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:53:55 2023 No.55676626 Lagarde will pump the markets harder. It always happens.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:54:22 2023 No.55676630 File: 1.12 MB, 793x907, 1676531118838531.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676624 why dont you own nrgu

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:02:04 2023 No.55676654 there is literally no case for intel in the current year their gpu work is doa they are ruled by jeets they keep killing products their core products are vastly inferior

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:06:42 2023 No.55676667 >>55676654 >they still spend a lot of money on brand recognition >that somehow still works despite being dogshit for 5 years granted amd's had their bad press too but it's sort of baffling the inertia that gigacorps have just look at IBM lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:18:38 2023 No.55676708 EU also completely forgot about yesterday. This market is the real scammarket. Worse than US.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:20:53 2023 No.55676715

>>55676654
Their besr chance atm is that their foundry service overtakes TSM somehow or an invasion of China renders TSM inoperable and the industry turns to IFS. Tbh I think there is a decent chance of one of those things happening, the former is even somewhat in INTC's control as they were top dog not so long ago. It looks like they're currently positioning themselves for exactly this. They'll be an anchor investor for Arm's IPO and have announced they'll fabricate Arm chips. Arm as an architecture is currently eating x86's lunch in several markets and they plan to or already have entered every market x86 is in. x86 is loaded down with legacy shit so Arm might be able to dominate the CPU market in 5-10y. AMD could be in hot water if that happens.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:24:04 2023 No.55676728 >>55676715 >x86 is loaded down with legacy shit And what is that "legacy shit" exactly? x87 FPU instructions?

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:24:10 2023 No.55676729
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>ECB gigahiking today
Are you read for today guys? The ECB is taking over FED's job of properly take care of the high core inflation and will ensure the companies stop taking advantage of the high core inflation and low PPI. The ECB has realize that the way of the people is what actually matters. They are on our side now, bros. What a time to be alive.
No longer will we pay $3 for a dozen eggs and no longer will we pay outrageous prices for gasoline.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:27:18 2023 No.55676748 >>55676565 yes any further questions?

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:29:00 2023 No.55676756

>>55676728
The fact that the CPU still starts in 16-bit mode and has to be laboriously switched to 32 and 64-bit for one thing. The ISA being huge and complicated for another. Dozens of different instruction sets (e.g. SIMD) because AMD and INTC have been competing for who can add the most. x86 is bloat. Arm is bloat too but not as much. Before someone mentions it, RISC-V is probably decades away from being usable for anything serious.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:29:01 2023 No.55676757 >>55676729 >inflation at 3% uh everything here still costs over 70% more, how the fuck do they calculate the inflation rate lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:29:19 2023 No.55676758 >>55676729 good joke. She will talk about wage inflation again, despite Nestle raising prices by 9% and others most certainly too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:31:16 2023 No.55676766 when will trump pump dwac

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:33:49 2023 No.55676775

>>55676756
>the CPU still starts in 16-bit mode and has to be laboriously switched to 32 and 64-bit for one thing
5 nanoseconds of startup time, the horror
>Dozens of different instruction sets (e.g. SIMD)
I.e. an industry standard that's literally on every chip in existence more expensive than 30p? You should check out the shitshow that is ARM SIMD instruction sets, and that's one fucking company.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:38:35 2023 No.55676791 File: 352 KB, 1232x868, FoO2BDKWIAIfK7k.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bros, all of this giga pumping is rather concerning...it really does feel like something is bound to break eventually and when it does it will be a total shitshow.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:38:36 2023 No.55676792
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>>55676757
Prices are simply rising slower than before (still significantly higher than normal though but who cares about that?). Also, since inflation rate calculations include many different factors, we can have higher food inflation which can be outclassed by a decrease in electricity prices for example, giving the illusion of a lower inflation. It's all bullshit and falsified statistics anyway. Remember the famous quote about statistics m8: "the only statistics you can trust are those you falsified yourself". The single most based quote I've ever read. Never ever trust anything coming from a governmental body/agency.
>>55676758
Obviously, they are on fuckin repeat mode and have been for the past two years now. What do they even do? Like actually what do they do in their job? They keep saying the same things and haven't brought anything new to the table. Do they just drink coffee and sit around all day, talking about their hippie days? I would really like to know.
They will once again divert attention to "wage gains" and oh how the economy is affected by the fact that workers are greedy and demand money for their work... all the while companies are making gigantic fuckin profits because many have signed ZIRP contracts and get nice deals from the banks.
https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2023/06/26/europes-inflation-outlook-depends-on-how-corporate-profits-absorb-wage-gains

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:40:20 2023 No.55676799 >>55676791 don't care, still buying intel

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:42:11 2023 No.55676806 >>55676757 Inflation is simply how fast prices are increasing. If they've already increased, then it'll stay at that high price, unless there is deflation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:43:30 2023 No.55676811 >>55676729 >They are on our side now, bros. Kek >>55676758 >despite Nestle raising prices by 9% and others most certainly too Ya, many companies hiking prices by more than inflation because they can and others are doing it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:44:05 2023 No.55676815 >>55676792 I don't know, but Lagarde earns 400k a year I think. Don't know what she has done besides being a sentenced once when she was a minister in france. But the penalty wasn't executed, kek.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:50:59 2023 No.55676841
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No no guys you don't understand, companies need to hike prices so they can compensate for the higher producer prices (even though PPI has decreased significantly and is way way lower than CPI) and to pay off their massive loans (which they took when interest rates were zero or sub 2%).
Yet, the inflation has been repeatedly blamed on the wage growth of the lower classes. It is true though that the lower classes have been really really greedy as of late. Consoooomin to their heart's content and keep taking more and more loans in a "high" rate environment. Fuckin normies. No wonder companies keep hiking prices. They know normies will keep buying.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:51:07 2023 No.55676842 File: 501 KB, 613x741, Screenshot 2023-07-21 045358.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's fucking over

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:53:07 2023 No.55676853 File: 84 KB, 1074x861, 1669551787437989.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676842 for bobo

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:54:02 2023 No.55676858 File: 36 KB, 655x527, 02f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] according to my estimates, stocks are expensive right now

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:55:07 2023 No.55676862 >>55676571 1M treasuries are 5.5%, you're still getting ripped off

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:57:04 2023 No.55676870 nasdaq is unstoppable lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 08:58:02 2023 No.55676875 COIN and PLTR have gone up, my puts are finished.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:03:30 2023 No.55676889 HOGS bros WTF is happening? Why are the OJ niggers dabbing on us?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:04:05 2023 No.55676890 File: 49 KB, 740x1130, 9852CBC9-D1E5-4C9A-8FC9-4A75988D0E0A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676605 >oil OIL

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:05:41 2023 No.55676897 File: 900 KB, 1024x576, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676890 oil?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:08:05 2023 No.55676910 File: 372 KB, 1450x1706, F62BB9AB-7B25-46E4-B353-9C4649A8DF96.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676858 It’s only because they cost more money. I expect this will continue until they cost less money. This is financial advice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:08:33 2023 No.55676912 File: 95 KB, 961x816, 11080(1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676858 wil stoks go up or down? apu apustaja is in the lab to find out!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:08:56 2023 No.55676913 >>55676897 Oil might be wonky, Gasoline and Fuel oil less so atm.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:09:05 2023 No.55676914 File: 1.76 MB, 1920x3242, 1607353288268.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676497 >posting this pink haired slut what a slut

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:09:16 2023 No.55676915 File: 73 KB, 631x608, a3c.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676889 oj gang rises

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:10:43 2023 No.55676920 File: 515 KB, 680x588, 10109.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] evrything got more expensiver this month but not as much as last month :) thx for listening evry1, any questions??

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:16:33 2023 No.55676943 i missed jeromes speech. can some give me the qrd of important stuff

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:17:12 2023 No.55676949 File: 126 KB, 834x1024, 69B38756-C8DC-474C-8923-8CB45EAD0D22.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676897 huilez-moi

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:19:54 2023 No.55676956 >>55676943 Someone asked him about wealth inequality and he just gave the journalist a sneer and ended the conference early

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:20:40 2023 No.55676959 What's the problem with holding TQQQ for 30 years?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:21:38 2023 No.55676962 File: 173 KB, 1195x1195, 1674466050700019.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676920 Yes hello when do things start to get less expensive? Thank you sirs

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:23:15 2023 No.55676968 >>55676959 You may die tomorrow

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:23:29 2023 No.55676969 >>55676943 It was weird because I'm 99% sure Powell said they voted not to raise rates, but it's being reported as a rate hike.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:24:34 2023 No.55676972
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I was really drunk at yesterdays office party. I pulled my dick out, climbed on the roof and vomited on the floor several times. And I clocked in 20 mins too late today.
I think I'm in trouble, how do I recover from this (financially speaking)?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:25:22 2023 No.55676974 >>55676972 You'll recover as soon as you take your meds

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:26:12 2023 No.55676978 File: 58 KB, 498x389, apu-reading.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676962 it sez here that prices wil b stable at are 2% target thx :)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:27:23 2023 No.55676984 >>55676959 Delta ?

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:28:21 2023 No.55676986

I swear I constantly read "higher profit forecast/Gewinnprognose" and at the same time there are several german institutions now even talking about a possible summer recession and everybody shitting himself. Exports dropping etc and they all still make profits.

I see a lot of US small/midcaps red on investing.com earnings calendar. This has to eventually also break the fuckin big corps.

Now I even got a message in my market maker talking about investors ignoring negative seasonality. Fed meeting yesterday was interpreted bullish.

What negative seasonality? July is THE bullish month for EU and US also I think.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:28:54 2023 No.55676989 File: 881 KB, 734x893, 1641159641679.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676841 Companies need to hike prices to make payment on their new debt which is higher now because the CB's around the world hike rates.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:29:13 2023 No.55676991 >>55676972 why cant you handle your alcohol ?

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:35:54 2023 No.55677009

>>55676991
I can usually handle alcohol because I drink at home a lot. I didn't know what kind of alcohol everybody was bringing with them but I always see normies taking shot so I brought a bottle of schnapps. Nobody wanted to drink it so I got nervous because I've made a mistake and drank it myself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:41:57 2023 No.55677032 >>55677009 yeah you need to drink only a little in risky occasions. schnaps is wierd choice tequila, lemons and salt is normie gold.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:45:07 2023 No.55677048 >>55677009 Job party. Drinking like hell. Whats wrong with you

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:49:45 2023 No.55677065 File: 90 KB, 948x1024, 1683232045678731.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] David Soxl is pumping my bags yet again.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:53:22 2023 No.55677076

How is META making this much money? AI powered ADS? Whatsapp doesn't have ads I think. Facebook has ADS. When I log in it's only absolute garbage. Even things that look like cheap garbage, worse than Alibaba/Wish level or on par. And if it's some other services it looks like a scam company.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:54:54 2023 No.55677086
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wonder what stocks do this pattern with sp and nasdac during fomc? sometimes it dumps and then goes up

if yuro wasnt closed that pattern would be a easy play 3x leveraged etfs.

or if a stock mimics that then good chance to get cheapies on your preferred stock

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:57:16 2023 No.55677094
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>>55677076
They fired a lot of useless people. Interestingly, the expenses coupled to personnel are projected to increase.
META is a weird one. I am honestly chocked how fuckin well that company is doing. Must have a bunch of ZIRP help from the banks

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:59:02 2023 No.55677101 >>55677076 they are targeted ads anon. you can decide yourself what you want to see.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:59:26 2023 No.55677106 >>55676968 I meant downsides.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:02:03 2023 No.55677120 File: 1.17 MB, 846x1344, 1682326461110290.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Nasdaq futures So, that's it, we're pumping for the next 10 years now? Why didn't I buy yesterday... Well, I guess I can still buy today.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:02:17 2023 No.55677121 >>55676972 I have a belief that office parties are just a scam to set people up for failure. Why would you even go to one let alone drink at one. If they are mandatory then show up, shut up, and Irish exit as soon as you can.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:05:13 2023 No.55677129 >>55677076 Yeah it's so weird considering how bad the ads are, all I get is ads for dragon dildos and my gf gets ads from family planning clinics for some reason.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:08:10 2023 No.55677132

>>55677101
Fuck off, I just logged in. The first ad was San Miguel and undereath there was Amazon.com. What is this ad? Will they refer me to Amazon to buy beer from there?

Second was ESN (Whey etc). Overpriced.
Third: Strong Viking (Some midlifecrisis sports event). Is that even profitable?

I don't drink beer. I eat whey but not fuckin ESN. I do lift, but don't do meme shit.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:10:12 2023 No.55677138

>>55677121
It can be good for your career. I go to every work social I can. You get more promotions being an underachiever everybody likes than an overachiever that nobody really knows. Your bosses and senior colleagues may reveal things to you and you'll be more in their mind when they're deciding who to promote or what tasks to assign to people. Plus there are often free drinks and food, and I enjoy working more/work better with people I like.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:11:29 2023 No.55677143 >>55677129 Sounds like they have access to your browser history.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:13:26 2023 No.55677148

>>55677121
>Irish exit
Is that leaving without saying goodbye?
In germany I heard it's called "Polnischer Abgang" =polish exit.

Kek, I was once accused doing that. And rightfully so, I don't want to roam the whole fuckin techno club to look for each and every person to say goodbye after raving the whole night through.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:16:58 2023 No.55677158 File: 36 KB, 532x576, 1650259179806.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >The meltup has officially begun Let us enjoy these good times while they last. EV sector is going to be the place to be this run

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:17:13 2023 No.55677159 >>55677132 sorry, I was not aware you frequent reddit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:19:09 2023 No.55677173 In order for my portfolio to be constantly green across the board I need the DOW and the RUSSLE 2000 to both be pumping. How likely with they stop being heemed?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:20:04 2023 No.55677177 >>55677159 People who know how to write in a proper manner use space. Sorry that it's 4chan etiquette to not do so. I'm here occasionally since 2011 (fit/pol/biz). I won't change,

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:24:31 2023 No.55677190
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>>55677148
>Is that leaving without saying goodbye?
Yes, basically you are avoiding the long conversations people like to start as you’re heading out the door.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:27:49 2023 No.55677203 File: 33 KB, 657x527, 1612809057956.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55677190 I do this all the time. Even in the supermarket and the gas station

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:32:14 2023 No.55677223 >>55677190 Great, I'm an Irish/Polish exiter and I'm proud to be one. Except when I see the people on my way out, then it would be rude not so goodbye, but I'd say it's all dependent on the festivity and the size of the place.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:37:54 2023 No.55677245

>>55677177
I do think le reddit spacing meme is overdone. It's reddit spacing when almost every sentence is a separate paragraph. Far worse than reddit spacing is when someone writes a paragraph explaining their viewpoint followed by one short line in a separate paragraph for punchiness.

Don't like it? Tough.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:42:06 2023 No.55677257 >>55677245 You can overdo it. But 4chan is being overly autistic in the opposite direction. It's ironic, cause most here think they are more intelligent than others and smug about, but write like a retard.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 10:47:14 2023 No.55677285
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If I receive a mail where idea/subject/theme A is not separated properly as it should be with a new paragraph for idea/subject B/theme B, with a space if very thematically different, I don't read it, simple as.
Now everyone uses proper spacing. They don't have the choice in the matter, I became their boss.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:03:47 2023 No.55677366 we dump

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:09:02 2023 No.55677383 time to buy MCD

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:12:52 2023 No.55677401 >>55677257 >write like a retard We’re not writing essays here. We post as we would speak if we actually had the motivation to get out and meet. It’s part of 4chan culture.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:18:45 2023 No.55677433 >Neste My country's economy is imploding, based

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:19:04 2023 No.55677435 File: 74 KB, 770x600, pepe_smoke2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] waiting for ABBV earning

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:19:16 2023 No.55677438 Thoughts on TESLA?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:21:22 2023 No.55677451 Anyone explain why CROX is dumping? Results look great: revenue up, costs down, debt down, new products, guidance increased. Oh well, might buy more at open, maybe it's a sell the rumour, buy the news situation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:22:58 2023 No.55677457 >>55677009 damn cuh I feel for you as I have embarrassed myself under the influence too

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:28:03 2023 No.55677479 >>55677177 this is reddit spacing this isnt I still love you

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:28:23 2023 No.55677480 nigger

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:30:09 2023 No.55677488 File: 107 KB, 1024x1024, 1F902AEF-1E89-498A-A02D-848B85F88F4B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ENVX is gonna pump hard today

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:35:22 2023 No.55677505
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heelow niggers
i have
>ctrl f
BOIL
KOLD
UNG
>no results
tickers
SHG
DIG

looks like the OIL brothers are eatin' well this mornin'. index futes green too. might be a breddy gud day for all, barring sudden rug pullin' news
AT
ANY
FUCKIN'
MOMENT

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:37:52 2023 No.55677515 If jobless claims come in lower than expected Nasdaq is going up 3-5% today

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:38:15 2023 No.55677517 >>55677435 ooooooo! I sold my son's just a few days before the DOOMP but have been peeking in on it regularly, slowly recovering nicely. I hope that keeps up, it was a strong hold up till then, and a nice divy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:40:08 2023 No.55677528 >>55677515 >Data matters How many reports do you need until you realize that it doesn't matter anymore: Germany is in a recession, was in one and probably will stay and it's going for another ATH.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:41:35 2023 No.55677532 >>55677435 Wish I didn't fuck around buying abbv. Only have a small bag hoping it'd go down more

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:41:46 2023 No.55677536 >>55677517 You sold your kids you sick son of a bitch!? Who did you sell them to? Baggot? Poor kids are probably getting diddled as we speak by that Jewish goblin.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:42:54 2023 No.55677538 >>55677528 Data matters when it gives a reason to pump. Low jobless claims will pump up yields. High yields mean more interest income for megacaps. The script gas flipped and rate hikes now stimulate the economy

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:46:50 2023 No.55677553
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>>55677536
No, he's in a STOOKS program where he gets to buy STOOKS on the program owner's dime and keep the gains at the end. It lasts for 3 years and each year he gets to sell one of his STOOKS and buy a new one. The selection was made last fall and I advised ABBV due to the patent expiration which was coming up (now passed).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:49:05 2023 No.55677559 >>55677536 Oh, and I do the actual selling/buying for him in his account. hence "I sold".

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:51:12 2023 No.55677570 STMbros?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:52:22 2023 No.55677574 >>55677553 Oh, you had me spooked for a second.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:53:54 2023 No.55677577
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S&P futures are almost at the March '22 peak. The only significant high after that is the all time high. This is what an actual double top looks like (assuming it doesn't break and head straight to 6000).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:54:48 2023 No.55677580 >>55677577 Yes. I hope so. August month down

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:55:22 2023 No.55677585 File: 487 KB, 1000x1350, 1689343162716146.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55677577 And here's some less objective commentary

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:56:07 2023 No.55677587

>>55677577
Why wouldn't it break and head to 6000? Earnings are great and higher rates are stimulating the economy. Megacaps have a lot of cash and are collecting 5.5% risk free. It's the best of both worlds, good earnings and free interest income. I'm curious if there is a real counter argument to this

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:56:29 2023 No.55677591
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>>55677574
I advise, give outlays, and leave the decision to him, then execute. He knows not to get anywhere near Baggot because Baggot shorted DE a while back and anyone who shorts DE is a commie traitor fagjewniggertard. Disclosure, my son holds green af DE.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:56:34 2023 No.55677593 File: 970 KB, 322x233, 1311951289155.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >futes

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:57:02 2023 No.55677600 Look at CAC, full recovery. Sartorius, absolute meme company with shitty earnings compared to last year pumping like crazy the last days. The market has gone mad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 11:58:29 2023 No.55677606 >>55677600 Because high rates now stimulate economies. The higher the rates the higher the future earnings. The script has flipped in a way no one expected

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:00:39 2023 No.55677617 File: 376 KB, 1079x982, Screenshot_2023-07-06-20-32-00-37_b783bf344239542886fee7b48fa4b892.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55677587 Niggers

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:01:50 2023 No.55677621 1st data drop of the day in less than 15 minutes: ECB decision

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:03:45 2023 No.55677626 >>55677617 Student debt doesn't matter when the Fed is giving megacaps free interest money. It's a form of QE. And the higher the markets go, the higher rates will go. Just imagine the melt up when rates hit 10%

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:05:02 2023 No.55677631 NYMEX are terrorists

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:06:01 2023 No.55677637 >>55677591 Didn't John Deere go woke though?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:06:11 2023 No.55677639 File: 26 KB, 709x433, fred balance sheet.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676792 >none of this has to do with the money supply

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:06:26 2023 No.55677641 >>55677626 THE ASSETS ARE AAA BRO TRUST ME BRO NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS ITS GOOD

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:07:22 2023 No.55677646
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>>55677587
There isn't. ZIRPs are a fuckin scam and I hate that fuckin concept. There is no reason to invest in anything besides Megacaps right now. Small cap is getting eviscerated because of the higher rates, mid cap is kind of keeping up due to the inflationary pressure on customers, and megacaps are enjoying ez cash, low PPI, high prices, and of course as small companies are going to hell, they can pick them up for cheepsies.
It feels almost orchestrated

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:08:49 2023 No.55677652 >>55677637 Nah, just some rando regional intern sponsoring a small local event, I'm sure they were put into a woodchipper. Verification not required.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:12:30 2023 No.55677681 UUUU still a good buy? I see a lot of push for nuclear

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:13:39 2023 No.55677687 >>55677641 We're heading back to high inflation. Now megacaps can raise their prices and collect higher and higher interest income. There is no way to defeat high inflation unless there's a black swan event

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:13:48 2023 No.55677689
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>>55677577
>the pump has completely stalled ever since QE turned off and the M2 money supply decreased
is there even a point in buying the market until it comes back online?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:14:10 2023 No.55677693 >>55677631 reiterated motherfuckers won't even let it hold still long enough to finish making a limit order on UNG (not low enough for me to buy more BOIL).

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:14:41 2023 No.55677695
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>>55677639
Money is going to where it is secure, i.e., megacaps. Just look at the MZB, oh wait you can't since the FED removed it just when they started printing in 2k20. They printed insane amount of cash and most of it probably went into the stock market, which is also why the market is pumping like crazy these past three years.
Look at M2, once again increasing since people are taking loans. Things are never again be cheap since normies are willing to pay as much or even more than what companies want.
Heh, I love looking at these graphs. These "high" rates haven't made a fuckin dent. Completely useless. FED once again completely dabbing on the people

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:15:43 2023 No.55677707 NO FUCKING CHANGE HAHAHAHAHAHHA EUROCHADS RISE UP

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:15:50 2023 No.55677708 >>55677577 >assuming it doesn't break This is the problem with chart patterns. You can only definitely say what pattern it's drawing when it's finished and the bullish or bearish movement has happened.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:16:03 2023 No.55677711 >>55677695 The worst part is that even bonds are yielding less than 2%. The entire thing is smoke and mirrors and without the wizard behind the curtain blowing smoke it doesn't move

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:16:46 2023 No.55677716 >>55677695 Not only haven't they made a dent in inflation, but high rates are stimulating inflation now. Now you can get crazy stock returns plus high interest income

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:17:09 2023 No.55677718 File: 197 KB, 600x400, poggers.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55676862 Yeah but your money isn't tied up if you wanna FOMO at the top

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:17:55 2023 No.55677722 File: 2.11 MB, 4096x2305, 1682376497170295.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55677577 The worst has yet to come. If only they knew how catastrophic thins will be.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:18:30 2023 No.55677724 File: 613 KB, 827x1170, 1684508002823774.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] McDonald chads, we're eating good tonight. Seriously, who the hell thought they wouldn't beat? It's fuckin McDonalds in an inflationary environment...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:19:44 2023 No.55677736 >>55677722 Why would that ever happen? I'm seriously interested to read a compelling argument for a market downturn

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:19:49 2023 No.55677737 File: 630 KB, 2368x995, stages_of_a_bubble_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55677722

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:21:22 2023 No.55677744 Im going to market sell all my shorts at open and pile into commodities. Look at fuckers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:21:24 2023 No.55677746 Stock Market isnt fun anymore. I think i just put 1k€ into MSFT every month and dont bother right? When do we get bull Timeline again?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:21:52 2023 No.55677749 File: 44 KB, 294x235, diversitybell.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >they are posting the graphs again

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:22:24 2023 No.55677751 >>55677746 yeah into fagman, ie the nasdaq

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:22:26 2023 No.55677752 >>55677722 two more weeks! the market is extremely resilient and fundamentally sound. inflation is pretty much under control and jobs are plenty.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:22:48 2023 No.55677755 File: 20 KB, 908x112, data.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here comes the 1st GDP read for the quarter. !! Previous GDP was revised up from 1.1 to 2.0% !!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:22:49 2023 No.55677756 >>55677736 Schizos with graphs make a thousand false predictions a day in these threads don’t even reply to them.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:23:16 2023 No.55677758
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>>55677707
>Inflation went up in Germany and Scandinavia
>Core inflation extremely high in Euro Zone
Yeah m8 let's just do the same thing as the FED. Let's not look at the data. Monkey see, monkey do. Fuck this fuckin continent.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:25:01 2023 No.55677772
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>>55677716
>plus high interest income
Not true. Look at the tips yield. 10 year bonds went from 0.5% yields all the way to 4% but the tips yield for 10 years, so the actual real return after inflation, went from negative 1% to 1.5%

Across the ENTIRE yield curve real yields are all below 2%.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:25:11 2023 No.55677775 File: 247 KB, 2048x1661, e4315cf01ac6429ab05e72ee6a1ff73c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55677756 >tfw it turns out that MUH LINES was the true fundamentals all along

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:25:49 2023 No.55677778 File: 113 KB, 1287x904, spx.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This graph is out of date now. There is not a single bear in the past year that is not trapped.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:26:12 2023 No.55677783 >>55677737 Retards are on some new paradigm shit right now it’s unreal. Puts will 10x on a random day next wk then 5x again in the days after

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:28:26 2023 No.55677796 I kneel, i sold before the datas

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:29:52 2023 No.55677805

>>55677772
But how does that fight inflation? Now people and megacaps get free money from high rates. It's the best of both worlds. Great earnings, wage growth, and you get 5.5% on your cash risk free. The yield curve is inverted so companies can take out 5% loans and then use 5.5% interest income to pay them back

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:31:13 2023 No.55677812 File: 672 KB, 1000x1000, 1689773505063187.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] BLOWOUT NUMBERS

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:31:22 2023 No.55677814 US PCE Prices Advance Actual 2.6% (Forecast -, Previous 4.1%) IT"S OVER

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:32:49 2023 No.55677820

ECB just gave indication that they may be less hawkish moving forward
>"The Governing Council’s future decisions will ensure that the key ECB interest rates will be brought to levels sufficiently restrictive to achieve a timely return of inflation to the 2% medium-term target and will be kept at those levels for as long as necessary."
>Meanwhile, in July now they are saying:
>"The Governing Council’s future decisions will ensure that the key ECB interest rates will be set at sufficiently restrictive levels for as long as necessary to achieve a timely return of inflation to the 2% medium-term target."
>The difference being that in June, they were still able to pre-commit to a further rate hike. But now, they can't really do so for September and the language reflects that. I would expect Lagarde to reaffirm that they may still hike again after the summer but as things stand, that is certainly not going to be a given like the decision today.
>EUR/USD is down slightly from 1.1125 to 1.1100 currently while euro area bond yields are also slumping with 10-year German bond yields now down 5 bps to 2.40%.

Unironically very bearish, as the dollar trade was built upon "Oh the ECB (and others) will continue to be hawkish and aggressively hiking, while the Fed is done - long the Euro!"
Now that idea is being tested, a whole bunch of dollar shorts, euro longs will unwind, making DXY rise
DXY rising = very bearish
the market rallying has been all built upon the dollar falling, and falling rapidly
now that is being put to the test

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:33:09 2023 No.55677823 We're landing softly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:33:11 2023 No.55677824 >>55677805 >Now people and megacaps get free money from high rates. 1% yields is a fucking joke anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:33:14 2023 No.55677825 >>55677814 So we pump, right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:33:16 2023 No.55677826 bears are fucking stupid. what part of line goes up do they not understand?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:34:39 2023 No.55677837 File: 698 KB, 1000x1000, 1690309679226361.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55677823 >landing

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:35:01 2023 No.55677840 >>55677824 No it's not a joke. Companies can take out huge loans at longer duration and then use short term treasuries to pay back the loan. It's hyper QE

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:35:21 2023 No.55677842 File: 53 KB, 600x600, 1651501854097.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55677783 Got puts that expire today so I hope that pans out for me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:35:42 2023 No.55677844 we had a huge crash last year yet bobo still feels entitled to more. fucking die.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:35:47 2023 No.55677845 File: 212 KB, 716x1368, reserves.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55677820 dedollarization is actually the biggest paradigm shift

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:36:03 2023 No.55677847
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>>55676497
Does anyone here enjoy anything?
I find it hard to look at SHIBART's art without getting depressed because these things will eventually take away from my work as an artist

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:37:02 2023 No.55677852 >>55677577 The March '22 highs were just breached

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:37:22 2023 No.55677856
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speaking of YIELDS
I nooticed that the HOOD yield on uninvoosted cash went up to 4.9% last night, up from 4.65%. I'm not Gold presently because I'm too invoosted to benefit from it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:37:30 2023 No.55677857 >>55677845 I wonder if a replacement currency will ever actually emerge or if the multipolar meme will stay and everyone will try to trade in their own currency.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:39:35 2023 No.55677872
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>>55677857
That's the biggest surprise. The dollar isn't losing power to the euro or the yen or the yuan or some new brics currency, its just small countries deciding to trade with each other using their own instead of the dollar.

For example the ENTIRE ASEAN region dropped the dollar and is now using their own currencies with each other. And trading with India and China and others with their own currencies.

Which means they are all buying each others bonds essentially making QT for the dollar on a small but growing scale

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:39:52 2023 No.55677874
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Every buy I've ever made has been pure genius and every sell I've ever made has been fucking dumb.
I should be 150k richer than I am right now but I'm not because I'm a skittish faggot.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:40:37 2023 No.55677877
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If the economy is so great and all, why the hell is copper down then? Reeeeeeeeee stop fuddddding my copper (still up nicely but I want more).
It will be interesting to see how long the FED maintains its "restrictive" policy, benefiting the megacaps while killing normies. Will they quit as soon as inflation goes to 2% or will they hold for an additional year or two? ECB already made it clear that they desire to turn on the printer as soon as inflation hits the desired 2%...
Why 2%? Why does it have to be 2%? Fuckin bs economics from the boomer era

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:40:39 2023 No.55677878

>>55677626
There is an apex, nigquitity, the money created by both the negro leveraging the loans for consumption well beyond the means provided by the loans plus income, and the lender leveraging the value of the loan as if it were held by a responsible White college dropout and making more loans and investments, will inevitably run out of fuel as the inflation needed to cover will reduce demand because it's going toward essential goods and services for both consumer and producer. That's the inevitable scenario the house of niggers can fall before that as it would have in 2020 if student loans weren't paused

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:40:39 2023 No.55677879 >>55676630 15,461 of em sheesh

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:40:45 2023 No.55677883

>>55677820
dollar just went green on the day, after being down fairly big
get out now. unironically, this is the top
this is the moment that the dollar trade has switched from bullish to bearish; the fundamentals behind the dollar falling just got crushed by ECB
>SPX 4,605
>NQ 15,728
this is the top. the rally will not continue as the dollar reverses. you will wonder why - why is the market falling after great earnings?
this is why. expectations for ECB policy are now declining, dollar shorts must unwind, euro longs must unwind
reminder: US stocks are priced in dollars!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:42:02 2023 No.55677888 >>55677874 this isn't really a good way to think about this because you don't want to be holding anything for too long. There is always more opportunities.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:43:11 2023 No.55677899 >>55677844 Bulls are in full euphoria mode. Literally everything is good for the mkt. just put more money in at whatever price. Manias will never stop npc are flock animals and can always be fools just wait a few months and start a new pilpul campaign

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:43:32 2023 No.55677902 So when are we loading up on puts?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:43:44 2023 No.55677905 >>55677888 I'm pretty sure the people who have held for 30 years have beaten my performance pretty soundly, but hey that's just me

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:45:08 2023 No.55677914 >DIA

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:46:36 2023 No.55677921

>>55677902
>>55677883
you should be now
I cannot emphasize enough how big of a deal this is, /smg/ doesn't trade currencies, doesn't understand bonds, doesn't understand currency movements
this is a huge, huge, huge deal - the entire basis for the market rallying just got undone; the market has rallied in nominal terms (dollar terms) as the dollar has gotten completely crushed
the dollar has gotten completely crushed because investors/traders/institutions expected that other central banks would continue to aggressively raise interest rates relative to US monetary policy; that the Fed would pause, while ECB continued to hike aggressively
this is no longer the case, after ECB release today
in other words, all the dollar shorts are now trapped, all the euro longs are now trapped; they are forced to quickly cover or sell their positions, forcing dollar higher
the market rallying was predicated upon DXY falling, and falling below 100 parity especially
after ECB release today, that is not going to happen - huge smashing of expectations (and the market hates when expectations are broken / the unexpected occurs)
Unironically, this is the top

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:46:41 2023 No.55677922 >>55677905 If we are talking about indexes sure. But singular stocks on the other hand gets a little iffy. Though I guess I am wrong to say you shouldn't be holding anything for too long. Indexes and (gags) bonds would be fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:47:47 2023 No.55677931 File: 387 KB, 918x1390, EevHUNxlwXWn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] predict market open

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:48:26 2023 No.55677935

>>55677874
And when you are older, you will realize that you should have never ever sold
When I was in college, Amazon was trading in the $24 range and I bought and sold it several times
I bought and sold Apple several times over the years

If I would have just left my money invested in both I would be much richer today

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:48:34 2023 No.55677937 Anyone have thoughts on MRSN? Seems like a lot of volume

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:48:41 2023 No.55677939 >>55677931 brief sell then green escalator

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:48:51 2023 No.55677940 WTI has breached $80 lmfao, nice market you have here central bankers

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:49:53 2023 No.55677949 >>55677921 Whatever, line go up forever. Any dip is temporary and should be slurped. Buy now or be priced out

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:51:25 2023 No.55677959 >>55677921 Whatever companies lose from currency fluctuations they make back from interest income. Rates are going much higher. 8-10% FFR will give companies a cushion against currency issues

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:51:57 2023 No.55677963 >>55677931 QQQ down to 381.40

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:53:37 2023 No.55677972 >>55677931 nasdaq big pump and the dump

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:53:47 2023 No.55677974 File: 18 KB, 383x434, Screenshot 2023-07-27 085330.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55677631 >>55677693 what in tha fuck are these motherfuckers trying to achieve

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:53:56 2023 No.55677975 >>55677949 Denial phase. Can’t wait for bargaining

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:54:09 2023 No.55677976

>>55677959
If you unironically believe that interest rates are going to 8-10% (which even I, someone who is very bearish on bonds doesn't think yields will get that high)
then you should be selling absolutely everything, and be building a short position
the banks balance sheets cannot withstand 4% 10yr - if you think that they can withstand 8% you are smoking crack lmao. The banks will face catastrophic failure at even 4.5% 5% rates; everything will blow up, major financial crisis (similar to how we saw the pension funds in UK blow up when their 30yr hit 4% in the Autumn)
It is literally impossible for interest rates to hit 8% again, as we would face thousands and thousands of bank failures before yields even approached those levels

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:54:40 2023 No.55677980 File: 364 KB, 817x828, 1599681360206.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You guys said we will have a recession.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:56:15 2023 No.55677987 File: 81 KB, 1015x739, 1669234617667365.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm lost 30% on NVDS, I'm not regretting it, I just bought little bit too early. It's a matter of months now

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:56:38 2023 No.55677989 >>55677976 The Fed will bail out the banks, isn't that obvious? This the bugs & pods timeline. Free money for megacaps and everyone else gets screwed

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:57:29 2023 No.55677992 >>55677980 we did. it was in 2022 we bull market now nothing but blue skies and green arrows from here on out kid

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:59:24 2023 No.55678013

>>55677989
The Fed is literally unable to do so. They have already used up their emergency fund.
>durr the Fed will just print money, and bail out the banks with it!
Lol. The Fed doesn't have the power to do this, this is a misconception.
Why do you think they ask the big banks to buy the failing banks? Why do they have the larger banks do the bail outs?
And why have the larger banks all announced "No more! We will not, cannot, bail out any more banks"
I don't think you understand how many banks there are in the US, especially relative to other nations. USA has 4800+ banks
You cannot bail out 4000 banks lol.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 12:59:37 2023 No.55678020

>>55677976
And yes, I think the FFR is going to 10% and probably higher. The script has flipped: high rates now stimulate the economy via megacaps. The higher rates go, the higher stocks go. The higher stocks go, the higher rates. It's a loop that will not be broken for a long time

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:01:27 2023 No.55678031 >>55677980 >>55677992 Eh, we'll get a recession but not right now. This stuff takes a while to play out, maybe recession in 2024, maybe even 2025. The market has lots of time to move upwards between now and then

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:01:46 2023 No.55678034 >>55678013 They can just create more money and expand BTFP to infinity. 10% FFR will be hugely beneficial for bank earnings

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:01:49 2023 No.55678035 File: 57 KB, 480x360, 1690462869305.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55677989 feds fucked. alien groundwork is being laid now. they are going push space cash by 2024 to save the system. long SOXL

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:02:33 2023 No.55678043 >>55677718 treasuries are never tied up, just sell them

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:02:38 2023 No.55678044 File: 69 KB, 400x333, 1596112879445.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55677992 A bear market is not a recession. I want wagies to lose their fucking jobs.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:02:44 2023 No.55678045

>>55678020
You are smoking crack.
This is your argument:
>Higher interest rates will absolutely crush consumption domestically, as consumers will not spend as much with interest rates 2x what they are right now
>Higher interest rates will crush economic activity, as businesses, corporations, institutions, will not be able to borrow as much at rates 2x what they are right now
>Businesses will not be able to expand, will not increase their orders, overall demand will fall, with interest rates 2x what they are right now
BUT
>corporations will make up all of these losses, because they'll receive higher interest rate payments on their cash!!! YAY!!!!
You're dumb. No. The losses would exceed the interest gains 10 fold.
And again, we cannot reach even 5% yields without thousands and thousands of bank failures.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:02:53 2023 No.55678046
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>>55677921
I really need to read up on currency and its effect on the market. I still can't wrap my head around why the sentiment strong dollar = weak market is so prevalent. I mean, the dollar is the strongest it has been for the past 10 years and the market is only accelerating its growth...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:03:23 2023 No.55678052 >>55678044 reminder that the market =/= the economy 2000-2010 was fucking great for the economy and us stocks fucking crabbed lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:04:31 2023 No.55678056 >>55678052 >2000-2010 >2008-2009 lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:04:47 2023 No.55678062 DIS bros...this is our time

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:04:52 2023 No.55678063

>>55678045
Where did I say higher rates will crush consumption? In fact it's the opposite as we're seeing now. Higher rates stimulate the economy and give consumers extra income. It's a form of QE. The government gave everyone money in 2020 and now you get interest income on it

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:05:15 2023 No.55678068

>>55677921
This person is correct. Mega caps have been ‘safe haven parking spots’ for $ but no one stopped to say wait a second I’m parking at a 45 p/e and they can’t grow into the multiple without a breakthrough which isn’t very fucking likely to happen. Perceived safety of crowds is mega fucking danger when ppl try to exit the same door

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:05:28 2023 No.55678070 File: 334 KB, 1287x1800, Fsw6x5ZaIAAohvs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55678020 This. Inflation always go into companies pockets. Said so since 2020, but /smg/ wouldn't listen.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:05:42 2023 No.55678072
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I legitimately don't understand the rampant economic pessimism. I mean yeah, I was 15 too one time and I thought every spooky headline meant the end of the world, but I've seen over and over again how the line literally always goes up in the end. Just go the fuck out into the world and realize that nothing is as bad as the media wants you to think it is. I guess you can play the short game if you have the money to burn but are you doing better than the people here who were just buying and holding throughout 2022? I'm up over 150% from my low last October, it wasn't hard it just took time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:06:08 2023 No.55678075 >>55678046 Are you retarded? Look at a graph of DXY, the dollar is down from the highs when the market was tanking. If the dollar keeps pumping, the market will follow it conversely.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:06:36 2023 No.55678077 >>55678063 >Higher rates stimulate the economy and give consumers extra income Lol. You are retarded. No. God no.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:06:51 2023 No.55678081 File: 50 KB, 396x385, 1427748995407.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >up nearly 3% in premarket

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:07:32 2023 No.55678086 >>55678072 They shut down the world over the flu. The world is messed up. Stock market is great though, the more clownish the world becomes the higher stocks go

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:07:52 2023 No.55678089 >>55678081 I'm up 6%, get on my triple leveraged level

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:08:00 2023 No.55678092 >>55678075 Of course I know that but let's look at 2k21 during which dollar pumped and stocks mooned...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:08:17 2023 No.55678095 File: 63 KB, 641x960, b617569bf3ce8bee7c034a70da621f8c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WOOHOO actually went ahead on a few more shares of BOIL right there now! got a good bit more UNG, and even sold a little KOLD.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:08:33 2023 No.55678097 >>55678077 Can you prove me wrong?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:09:09 2023 No.55678101 >>55678089 Nice. I have a bunch of covered calls that offset my gains a little.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:09:45 2023 No.55678105 File: 38 KB, 553x419, e58c3eefea77d3a7f5cc9b99f1ef3e13.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I bought Logitech when the sub imploded and made 25%. What's my next play?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:09:59 2023 No.55678108 File: 91 KB, 933x1159, 1610507011183.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Give me a good stock tip

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:10:35 2023 No.55678114 File: 76 KB, 543x353, 1679427982319833.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55678108

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:11:20 2023 No.55678119 UUUU ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:14:11 2023 No.55678141 >>55678072 >it’s just spoopy headlines >it’s definitely not ppl lying abt their financial situation living on credit cards(worse than just paycheck to paycheck)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:15:25 2023 No.55678151 >>55678108 IQV its a druckenmiller AI long

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:15:31 2023 No.55678154

>>55678097
>Can you prove me wrong? (re:
>>Higher rates stimulate the economy and give consumers extra income
https://www.mdpi.com/2227-7099/11/1/23#:~:text=In%20general%2C%20higher%20interest%20rates,less%20point%20in%20saving%20money.
>In general, higher interest rates discourage consumption and encourage saving.
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/071715/how-do-changes-interest-rates-affect-spending-habits-economy.asp
>Interest rates affect the cost of borrowing money over time, and so lower interest rates make borrowing cheaper - allowing people to spend and invest more freely. Increasing rates, on the other hand makes borrowing more costly and can reign in spending in favor of saving.
https://www.economicshelp.org/macroeconomics/monetary-policy/effect-raising-interest-rates/
>Higher interest rates increase the cost of borrowing, reduce disposable income and therefore limit the growth in consumer spending
https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/kf/paymentdue.pdf
>We estimate that a 1
percentage point increase in interest rates can substantially reduce consumption
growth, so that other sectors would have to grow 6-10 percent in inflation
adjusted terms just to maintain a basic overall growth rate of 3 percent
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165188918301878
>lower interest rates encourage the agent’s consumption across all states
https://www.cnbc.com/select/interest-rate-hike-pros-cons-how-to-benefit/
>When rates increase, meaning it becomes more expensive to borrow money, consumers react by refraining from making large purchases and pulling back their spending

Yes. I can prove you wrong. The entire world can prove you wrong. Lol. You are saying something that is the exact opposite of the truth. The equivalent of you saying
>The Earth is square!
>Can you prove me wrong???

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:15:53 2023 No.55678158 Seriously, De Guindos, can he speak with a little more accent? You can't understand him. He's practically speak spanish with english words.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:16:10 2023 No.55678162 >>55678108 TSLL

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:16:42 2023 No.55678168 >>55678141 Even though I'm poor, I can confidently say I don't live paycheck to paycheck and don't have credit card debt. So at least I have one thing to feel good about.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:18:32 2023 No.55678183

>>55678154
>In general, higher interest rates discourage consumption and encourage saving
I hate to be that guy but g1. Interest rates at a 15y maximum and spendinng has decreased what... 1%? My anecdotal experience is telling me that spending has increased and consoomerism hasn't decreased one bit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:18:48 2023 No.55678187 File: 795 KB, 2400x1006, Screenshot_20230725-133638_YouTube.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55677989 You will work for FAGMAN, make your weekly rental payment, eat the bugs and be happy. https://youtu.be/UrEUzKTt7j0

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:19:25 2023 No.55678190 WTF IS THIS GUY ASKING QUESTIONS? ALSO FROM SPAIN, LEARN HOW TO SPEAK ENGLISH SOMEWHAT NEUTRAL. Although he also can't speak the language in general.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:20:43 2023 No.55678203
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>>55678108
ASML. Good ass big semi/tech company which is still relatively far away from its ATH despite great earnings and an especially good position in the semis industry

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:21:28 2023 No.55678212

>>55678183
You need to understand that those statistics that you are looking at for consumer spending are in nominal terms, not in real terms.
In other words, if inflation goes up 6%, and consumption falls, the nominal number will still be positive. They are not adjusted for inflation. When adjusted for inflation, consumption has been falling.
You also need to understand the dynamic that takes place during high inflation. The consumer doesn't want to hold onto their money and hold off from making purchases, as they expect their money to be worth less in the future, they expect whatever they wanted to buy to be more expensive. So rather than save their money, they will INITIALLY (emphasis on initially) will try to "spend their way out of inflation" - why not buy today for $1.00 when tomorrow it will be $1.10?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:21:29 2023 No.55678213 File: 3.83 MB, 360x150, F50F36DF-1CF6-48C5-A25A-04E361445ED8.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55678187

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:21:59 2023 No.55678215 SOFI BROS...

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:25:14 2023 No.55678241

>>55678141
>Muh credit cards!!!!!
People have been gnashing their teeth about this for years and literally nothing has happened. Credit card debt doesn't mean shit about the economy unless people are completely unable to service their minimum payments. Otherwise, you shouldn't be surprised that people have moved away from cash in 2023

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:25:30 2023 No.55678242 >>55678212 U can’t speak logic into a mania. Like a fever it must run it’s course. Just hope u aren’t holding puts too early or miss the initial reversal bc when it happens these bull fucks will be no where to be found

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:26:00 2023 No.55678244

>>55678154
>Yes. I can prove you wrong.
The script has flipped this time around. In 2020 there was insane stimulus from world governments. Companies took at huge loans at low rates. Households had checks sent to them in the mail from the government. Everyone got free cash.
Now in 2023 the Fed is raising the FFR quickly. People and companies get free interest income on the free money they got, AND they get wage growth, AND they get a booming stock market, AND companies get record profits from inflation.
Besides that, the yield curve is deeply inverted. So companies can take out a long term loan for 5% and pay it back with short term treasuries yielding 5.5%.
QE never ending. We just entered a phase of hyper QE that will never end
> We estimate that a 1 percentage point increase in interest rates can substantially reduce consumption
And did that happen? No, people are buying more than ever

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:26:05 2023 No.55678246 pre market is on fiyah

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:26:55 2023 No.55678250 File: 74 KB, 482x427, 1672498772061819.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I... I just want one win it's been weeks... i don't know what to do.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:27:23 2023 No.55678254
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>>55678212
Good post. It might be different for the US but last time I checked I believe adjusted spending is also close to ATH here in Scandinavia. People here have short-term bound mortgages and loans (which is absolutely retarded and they will pay for it dearly this and next year as the loans get re-financed but NPCs will be NPCs) so they keep spending and spending.
The thing about spending since one assumes things will be even more expensive in the future holds especially true in regards to the housing market. A lot of people I know bought a house last or this year since houses actually have some physical value and since the market is so un-safe right now.
But as has been made clear several times before, economy =/= market.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:27:31 2023 No.55678255 >>55678241 Lmfao thank u for taking the bait. I actually own a company in the space and the chickens are starting to come home to roost.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:28:18 2023 No.55678264 File: 286 KB, 1534x864, 1690287212889359.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Selling my TSLA, maybe you should buy because I lose every single time

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:28:44 2023 No.55678267 >>55678244 People and companies get free interest income on the free money they got You have to lock your money up for that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:29:13 2023 No.55678274 File: 318 KB, 380x557, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] when he's not a permabull

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:29:56 2023 No.55678278

>>55678255
Can you expound on this, m8? I would love to see people lose their shit over this. As someone who refuses to become an economic slave (refuse to have a filthy loan), it pains me to see all these normies live on ez mode because they can just keep getting away with this crap.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:29:59 2023 No.55678279
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>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:30:02 2023 No.55678280 WTFWT

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:30:17 2023 No.55678283 >>55677617 I’d be will to make one or two interest only payments on her loan. Given access to her openings of course.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:30:21 2023 No.55678284 >>55678267 >You have to lock your money up for that. You can put it in treasury bills or a high yield savings account, you don't have to lock up your money for long periods of time

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:31:16 2023 No.55678295 wtfwt

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:32:02 2023 No.55678298 File: 338 KB, 1016x774, Cat teapot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Chipotle bounced back from -8% to -0.2%, How? What did I miss?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:33:11 2023 No.55678307 >>55678298 its down 7% wtf are you talking about

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:33:26 2023 No.55678308 >>55678255 >I was just pretending to be retarded! lmao >>55678278 Bro you need to realize that the entire world runs on debt and if you aren't using debt to your advantage you're falling behind.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:33:26 2023 No.55678309

>>55678244
see
>>55678212
>See! They're buying more than ever!!
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=e2N
>MUH HOUSEHOLD SAVINGS
Households are unironically already out of their savings, and will be completely 100% out by October
They do not take advantage of higher interest rates lmao.
>Wow!! I'm so glad that interest rates are higher, as I am receiving such large interest payments on the government bonds I own, which will allow me to consume more!!
Said no one, literally ever. Lmao.
You are completely delusional and out of touch with reality of how many average people even own bonds
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-number-of-americans-that-directly-own-bonds-fell-even-further-in-2016-2017-10-25
>Direct household participation in the bond market fell to 1.3%, according to a recent survey by the St. Louis Federal Reserve
only half of the US population even owns stock, let alone bonds
60% of the US population lives paycheck to paycheck
https://ir.lendingclub.com/news/news-details/2023/60-of-Americans-Now-Living-Paycheck-to-Paycheck-Down-from-64-a-Month-Ago/default.aspx#:~:text=Today's%20Paycheck%2Dto%2DPaycheck%20Landscape,percentage%20points%20from%20January%202022.
We have over $1 trillion in credit card debt - the majority of the nation is having to use credit in order to make ends meet, putting themselves into $100,000 worth of debt (average debt per household)
All of these people are affected by higher interest rates. They have less disposable income, due to their higher interest payments. They cannot borrow as much and spend it in the economy, due to higher rates.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:33:28 2023 No.55678310 File: 31 KB, 450x299, 2B2CC026-9FE2-488C-A0FF-BC9582F0C3D2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55678279 Just woke up. What did I miss?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:33:47 2023 No.55678313 being a permabull is so damn comfy and ez money

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:34:15 2023 No.55678318 just wanna add to my QQQ but it wont go down

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:34:39 2023 No.55678321 >>55678298 Nvm the chart was fucked or idk.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:34:56 2023 No.55678325 >>55678298 JPow said fuck bobo, kill a bobo, roundhouse kick a bobo in the face, throw a baby bobo into a blender, smash a bobo's face in with a sledgehammer

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:35:26 2023 No.55678330 >>55678308 >entire world runs on debt I know but I've seen people make it without having to resort to any kind of juden loans or having to take a bank dick up their arse. I strive to be that good

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:35:44 2023 No.55678332 >they missed the bottom that was in october

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:35:57 2023 No.55678335 This thing feels like a bloody powder keg. I can't play this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:36:04 2023 No.55678336 >>55678325 >>55678307 opening bug maybe idk I was checking it on marketwatch>>55678321

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:37:57 2023 No.55678349 >>55678318 It's going to keep going up until Biden leaves office. If you think Biden will win in 2024 then buy now. If you think Trump will win, then hold your money and wait for him to crash all the markets agains

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:37:59 2023 No.55678350

>>55678309
>Households are unironically already out of their savings, and will be completely 100% out by October
Then the government will just provide more stimulus, what's stopping them from doing that?

>Said no one, literally ever. Lmao.
See here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-27/boomers-boosting-inflation-as-the-rba-lifts-rates/102610512
>"The interest rates actually make it better for us because we're earning more money on deposits."
>https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=e2N
That data is from January, the economy has exploded since then
>only half of the US population even owns stock, let alone bonds
You don't need to own bonds to get high income from a high yield savings account
>60% of the US population lives paycheck to paycheck
Does not matter at all. The poorer people get, the more the government will have an excuse to stimulate megacaps. Plus poor people love to use credit cards and rack up insane debt

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:38:34 2023 No.55678354 File: 60 KB, 720x960, 1689347748001937.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55678298 People decided the vinigger sauce shortage wasn't really that important

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:38:39 2023 No.55678355 >>55678309 The economy isn’t the market, and as long as Janet keeps spending and not issuing longer term bonds (lol she refuses to do this because it’ll fuck everything up) we are essentially just blowing the biggest bubble known to humans.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:40:45 2023 No.55678365

>>55678278
Don’t listen to the other retard. Yes debt at a good rate for a quality busn is smart but these fucks are racking up 10’s of thousands on credit cards to buy rounds of shots for $20/shot to pretend to be rich. It’s systemic and you likely have friends pretending to be fine but 20% apr ain’t the devil u want to dance with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:42:06 2023 No.55678371 >>55678241 Average American now has 10k in credit card debt.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:43:05 2023 No.55678379

>>55678365
>racking up 10’s of thousands on credit cards to buy rounds of shots for $20/shot to pretend to be rich
Brah I don't know what neo-conservative content creators you follow but that is simply not happening on a large scale. Could you have picked a more exaggerated example?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:45:16 2023 No.55678398 >>55678371 That's a lot of demand, bullish

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:45:18 2023 No.55678399 puts are so fucking cheap right now

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:46:11 2023 No.55678404

>>55678379
His example is obviously illustrating an idea, quit playing dumb
People absolutely rack up credit card debt to live a lifestyle they can’t afford. The buying shots at a bar thing was just his way of illustrating it
Hate when people play purposefully dense to score some cheap “gotcha”

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:46:13 2023 No.55678405
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>>55678350
>Then the government will just provide more
stimulus, what's stopping them from doing that?
>pic related
We literally cannot afford to do so. We have seen a 20% decline in tax receipts in this same period from last year.
>Oh, well they can just issue more bonds, and borrow money, and use that money to stimulate the economy!
What is the government crowding out effect
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/crowdingouteffect.asp
>The crowding out effect is an economic theory that argues that rising public sector spending drives down or even eliminates private sector spending.
>To spend more, the government needs added revenue. It obtains it by raising taxes or by borrowing through the sale of Treasury securities. Higher taxes can mean reduced income and spending by individuals and businesses.
>Treasury sales can increase interest rates and borrowing costs. That can reduce borrowing demand and spending.
Not only will we have crowding out, we will also see a big spike in inflation
We are also approaching $1 trillion on debt service, we are at 129% debt/GDP
It is not sustainable, not possible
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-27/boomers-boosting-inflation-as-the-rba-lifts-rates/102610512
>boomers
>boomers
>boomers
>They tend to be older and they're enjoying higher asset prices and bigger returns from their savings.
Higher interest rates is very different for anyone who doesn't have a massive nest egg, doesn't already own a home - the drivers of consumption
>You don't need to own bonds to get high income from a high yield savings account
There aren't high yield savings accounts, which is why money has been flowing out of banks, into money market funds. This is also extremely bearish, as the banks are getting their balance sheets destroyed by capital outflows + real estate crash + inverted yield curve
>Does not matter at all
You will see. Henry Ford figured this out 100 years ago, when he realized his employees couldn't purchase the cars he was selling.

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:46:56 2023 No.55678412

>>55678379
Lmfao you cannot be serious. Of course people are racking up CC debt, to look wealthy.
I have 5 sbilings, 4 of them pretend to be wealthy. Me and my brother are the only ones who have $ for a downpayment on a home, in our family.
I have friends who act similarily, too.
It is absolutely the way people act, right now. Pure financial irresponsibility.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:47:56 2023 No.55678417 File: 51 KB, 926x718, 1682006409626646.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just want it all to crash and burn...is that so much to ask?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:48:30 2023 No.55678423 I secured my SOXL profits. It might have a lot more to go, but 9.58% daily gain is 9.58% daily gain. Had to do it to 'em!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:48:49 2023 No.55678424 SOXL up 10% today. Hot Damn.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:49:50 2023 No.55678432 >>55678379 I OWN A FUCKING BUSINESS IN THE SPACE YOU DUMB NIGGER. ITS NOT HYPOTHETICAL ITS COMMON FOR MY CLIENTS

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:50:41 2023 No.55678440 File: 24 KB, 1410x168, clockwork.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] my talent to buy the exact fucking top every single time is truly astonishing

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:50:44 2023 No.55678441

>>55678405
>We literally cannot afford to do so
So they'll just raise the debt ceiling, the republicans completely caved last time
>What is the government crowding out effect
And that's proven wrong. The government has done insane stimulus since 2008 and the stock market has done nothing but gone up
>Treasury sales can increase interest rates and borrowing costs. That can reduce borrowing demand and spending.
Already disproven. Higher rates are bullish for risk assets in this environment
>we will also see a big spike in inflation
Inflation is bullish for risk assets. Inflation + high rates is the holy grail of high profits for megacaps
>Higher interest rates is very different for anyone who doesn't have a massive nest egg
Correct, but the stock market doesn't care about normal people. Megacaps benefit from pain
>the banks are getting their balance sheets destroyed
And how are major banks doing these days? From what I've seen they're making new all time highs and doing great
>Henry Ford figured this out 100 years ago, when he realized his employees couldn't purchase the cars he was selling.
We're in the bugs and pods timeline, this is by design

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:51:40 2023 No.55678450 File: 270 KB, 966x550, Bears_Unwinding_seething.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >RSI hasn't dropped below 40 in over 6 months Holy moly bears are getting absolute destroyed

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:51:55 2023 No.55678452

>>55678379
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jaw-dropping-stats-state-credit-130022967.html
>49% of Americans depend on credit cards to cover essential living expenses
It's honestly much worse than what he was even saying in his example to make a point
They are going into massive debt just to make ends meet, to buy things like groceries, gasoline, pay their rent.
There is also a ton of extravagant travel spending going on right now on credit - which is truly a "go into debt to pretend to be rich"
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-25/visa-card-spending-tops-estimates-as-travel-demand-stays-strong?
https://archive.is/31HyD
>Visa Card Spending Tops Estimates With Strong Travel Demand
>"fueled by travel growth from the ongoing recovery and summer tourism.”
literally people are putting themselves into debt in order to go on vacation, so that they can post pictures of them looking at a sunset on Instagram, so that their friends think better of them

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:52:04 2023 No.55678455 The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/breaking-superconductor-news

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:52:09 2023 No.55678457 File: 80 KB, 200x185, chika_dance.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what's up my /smig/gers. ABBV is treating me very well today.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:54:08 2023 No.55678472 On days like today I like to look at the chart for sqqq knowing that faggot bears have been going all in on it thinking they know something the market doesnt

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:54:30 2023 No.55678477 >>55678417 It will end in tears. The problem, as always, is timing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:54:31 2023 No.55678478 >>55678440 scale into positions. buy 1/4 size at a time. that way you trick the market gods

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:54:39 2023 No.55678481

>>55678432
It's "common" for your clients to spend "tens of thousands" on shots?

>>55678452
Your cynical attitude is blinding you to how absolutely fucking normal this is in a world that no longer relies on a global reserve currency that is actually backed up by ANYTHING.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:54:47 2023 No.55678482 >>55678457 Stun-locked. I can't make a play. Not the worst thing but just annoyed. Also, $GOOG kept climbing after I sold it all so a bit peeved there, too. Profits are still profits.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:54:58 2023 No.55678484 File: 110 KB, 1208x700, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] uh bros how true is this thing on fidelity

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:57:07 2023 No.55678505 >>55678484 that's been the sentiment since 2016

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:57:39 2023 No.55678511 >>55678440 >buying EV shit >buying Chink EV You honestly deserve it, I have no sympathy

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:58:13 2023 No.55678518 File: 535 KB, 498x498, angry-pepe-pepe-the-frog.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >order didn't go through because 10 cent too high >It's now dumping

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:59:39 2023 No.55678529

>>55678441
>So they'll just raise the debt ceiling
this isn't an issue of "do we have the legislative ability to raise more funds to issue stimulus"
it's a solvency issue - and an issue that is only going to increase as time passes, as foreign demand for US debt (and dollars) is decreasing
>The government has done insane stimulus since 2008 and the stock market has done nothing but gone up
This is all central bank liquidity. More dollars chasing the same number of assets. If the government hadn't borrowed / spent money that it took from taxing other individuals, we would have had even more growth.
>what is the fiscal multiplier
https://www.richmondfed.org/publications/research/econ_focus/2018/q4/jargon_alert#:~:text=When%20the%20government%20spends%20money,economic%20output%20by%20a%20dollar.
>Higher rates are bullish for risk assets in this environment
Lmao. No.
>Inflation is bullish for risk assets.
No.
>the stock market doesn't care about normal people
It doesn't, until it affects their bottom line. When "normal people" can no longer afford to go out to eat a restaurant, can no longer afford to buy a home, can no longer afford to go out and consume, then the stock market cares.
>From what I've seen they're making new all time highs and doing great
Stock price ≠ financial health
Wow, did you see Enron?? It's at $90 a share!! Clearly they are doing fantastic, since the share price is so high!
>We're in the bugs and pods timeline
Unironically, the bugs and pods timeline is extremely bearish for stocks, and why it will not happen

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:59:57 2023 No.55678531 >10Y Approaching 4% >EVERYTHING IS NORMAL PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:00:16 2023 No.55678533 >>55678412 >Pure financial irresponsibility. It's free money bro. Have you never heard of bankruptcy?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:00:41 2023 No.55678536 >>55678452 I'm currently carrying 2k on credit and 8k in a personal loan but its this way because I wanted to vacation and currently buying house from family but needed a bridge loan between now and a long dated closing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:00:42 2023 No.55678537 >>55678481 >Your cynical attitude is blinding you to how absolutely fucking normal this is Lol. 49% of people using their credit card to make basic ends meet is not "fucking normal" as you put it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:00:45 2023 No.55678539 >>55678518 for me its sell yesterday to realize losses. the stock turns around and goes up 2 days. emotions always fuck you over. shoulda trusted my stop.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:02:27 2023 No.55678554 >>55678424 only thing garunteed to go up forever is NVDA. Infinite future growth. What you expect that to reflect in fundamentals? You get to be early so stop crying.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:03:06 2023 No.55678559 >>55678533 Lmfao u have no idea how it actually works. You are full of shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:03:18 2023 No.55678560 >>55678457 kick ass, BLESSED

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:03:58 2023 No.55678568 >>55678554 >You get to be early so stop crying. >P/E 237 Okay bruh

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:04:35 2023 No.55678569 What happened to CROX? Earnings looked good, did I miss something? >>55678554 NVDA is the new BTC lmao. Not sure if I should hold it to earnings...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:04:36 2023 No.55678570 COIN is finally doing the needful for my puts

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:04:53 2023 No.55678574 File: 85 KB, 250x250, 1643048550083.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55678417 Its coming this fall. Stay strong Bo-Bro.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:05:00 2023 No.55678575 >>55678537 It's completely normal to use credit cards to pay regular bills UNLESS a majority of them are unable to service the minimum requirements of the debt.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:05:05 2023 No.55678576 >>55678568 STOP FIGHTING IT BUY IT

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:05:13 2023 No.55678579 NOCbros I got heemed...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:05:28 2023 No.55678581 >>55677820 >>55677883 >>55677921 Dollar is now up 0.69% 2 year yield 4.92% +6.6bps

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:06:08 2023 No.55678587 >>55678576 Not being your exit liquidity, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:07:44 2023 No.55678599 File: 2.94 MB, 1920x1080, ryssuyns.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>55678108 INTC cheap fabs AI AI AI AI

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:08:56 2023 No.55678606 >>55678587 I'm just being irrationally bulish because of how overpriced nvda is being gamma squeezed up on a "growth" opportunity that I dont believe will pan out because it drives cost of revenue skyward.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:10:09 2023 No.55678613 new bread >>55678609 >>55678609 >>55678609 >>55678609

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:11:11 2023 No.55678621 >>55678554 based. i am know remembering all the anons here that had the audacity to short it and got absolutely btfo

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:11:27 2023 No.55678625

>>55678575
It is normal to use credit cards to pay bills, and then pay off the debt owed.
It is not normal to rely on credit cards to make ends meet, where you would be unable to pay your rent that month, unable to eat food that week, unable to fill up your car with gasoline without using the credit card, and then also having so much debt accrued that it would be impossible for you to ever pay it off
We are currently in this situation
>yeah, well, it's fine, since they aren't delinquent, yet!
we are already seeing a sharp rise in delinquencies and defaults across all forms of debt, and this is prior to the economy truly getting weak or unemployment increasing. The powder keg is full of explosives, it just takes the economic weakness spark to blow it up, where we do see a huge majority of people unable to service the minimum payment requirements

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:22:40 2023 No.55678735 >>55678625 Not to mention that paying minimum’s means the debt is actually going up monthly. It’s beyond fucked and everyone’s acting like it’s A OK

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:46:41 2023 No.55678944 >>55678250 what was your last loss

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 15:23:57 2023 No.55679296 >>55678559 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Fpiowbfm0dI

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