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55440928 No.55440928 [Reply] [Original]

you know, just in case

>> No.55440991

I have 0 btc also.

>> No.55441024

>>55440928
I've got over 1000. That's how confident I am

>> No.55441115

>>55440928
In case of what, exactly? You realize creg will never sign. He might even have keys but he will refuse to sign. He's on a mission to make courts the provider of network security. So he must use the courts to move his coins and never touch his keys. I do think that BSV will eventually host all the relevant CBDC's, but the price of BSV will be closer to $5 when we reach that level of adoption. Hyperbitcoinization means every person will have a single satoshi with their bank balance and identity tokenized on that single satoshi. Nobody needs more than a single satoshi ever.

>> No.55441431

>>55440928
WTF was that?!

>> No.55441444

>>55440928
yawn wake me up when it hits 1200

>> No.55441550

>>55441444
sleep tight

>> No.55441614
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>>55440928
explain this

>> No.55441924

>>55441115
lol you're smoking crack if you think any of this will ever happen

>> No.55441984

>>55441115
I have thought about that. No, for every single shit you'll need a sat. So much demand with a limited supply will send the sat price up. Will it be 1$ = 1sat? Unlikely, but I have my bag set at breaking from the wage cage at 1 BSV = 1200, so I'm ok.

>> No.55442036

>>55441984
How many BSV for that?

>> No.55442556

>>55440928
i have 100, just in case. ill hold it to zero or buy things with it when it takes over the world
it's time is coming after the delistings, now its pump time to price out normies

>> No.55442675

>>55442556
What are the best wallets for Bsv?
Are paper wallets still a thing?

>> No.55442744

Blackrock have been advised by their lawyers that they need to hold all forks (BTC, BCH and BSV 1:1:1) for their ETF, as insurance against a possible future flippening.

>> No.55442813

>>55441444
watch and learn, 8 8 9 9 10 10 11 11 12 00

>> No.55442834

>>55442675
i use electrum and store wallet copies on two pen drives

>> No.55442891

>>55440928
i am very curious to know what the transaction costs of bsv would look like if it was the same price as BTC right now

>> No.55442893

>>55440928
yes i have only 1 bsv

>> No.55442913

>>55441115
>So he must use the courts to move his coins and never touch his keys.
why not just skip all the hassle and just sign? doesn't even have to be on the btc blockchain, just sign a message on bsv with the btc private key. no endorsement of btc, instead, active promotion of bsv. so much easier, rally makes you wonder why he avoids signing at all costs. maybe the courier will reveal it, he should arrive any day now

>> No.55442923

>>55442913
he literally doesn't need to

>> No.55442946

>>55442923
>he literally doesn't need to
i'm actually satoshi, but i'm not going to sign. i don't need to sign to prove my point, you just have to trust me on it. i totally am satoshi though, i'm just not signing

>> No.55443573

>>55442946
I love how butt hurt you guys get that he refuses to play your game. In a way you idiots completely validate his point in not signing.

>> No.55443712
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>>55443573
>refuses to play your game
it's his game, he created a system where signing proves ownership and for some reason he tries really hard to find reasons not to do the fundamental action that the system he designed is centered around. really strange. usually, the simplest answer is the correct one. could it be that he does not have the key after all? could that be true?

>> No.55443750

>>55443712
Signing can be used as a method to unlock a utxo. It does nothing to prove ownership. It is simply a key to unlock an envelope. And it's an even further stretch to say keys have anything to do with identity.

>> No.55443762

>>55443750
Also keys and Bitcoin do not exist in a vacuum. They are part of a larger system of laws and norms that is our society. To ignore context is to have the interpretation of a 5 year old.

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>>55443750
>stretch to say keys have anything to do with identity
not a very far stretch, seeing as nobody has come forth with the keys yet (sitting on a giant pile of money for years). if he signs, it narrows the reasonable suspects down to one. super weird that he doesn't sign it and make his case extremely compelling, instead of putting himself on the same level of credibility as subway bums that mumble about being satoshi

>> No.55443806

>>55443573
Maybe his point about being obstinate, but bot his point about being Satoshi.

>> No.55443818

>>55442744
You know there's way more forks kek

>> No.55443868
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>>55443750
>It does nothing to prove ownership.
signing proves ownership of the addresses created from that key. there can be multiple owners of course, but if you own the key, you literally own the addresses. you don't have to sign any utxo, it's just a private key. he can sign any series of bytes he likes with it, even a tweet can be signed. he could sign the message "please stop defending me on 4chan wen you don't even know how the protocol woks, it's cringe. love, craig" and that would do the trick

>> No.55443931

>>55443868
I'm well aware how keys and signatures work. My point is the keys only valid purpose is for satisfying the unlock script conditions, nothing more. You can sign messages all you want with the key but there's no conclusions to be made without identity formally associated with a private key.

>> No.55443950

>>55443868
Answer me this. If Satoshi never mined any Bitcoin himself, how would you go about deciding who Satoshi is?

>> No.55444019
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>>55443931
>no conclusions to be made without identity formally associated with a private key
and yet circumstantial evidence is often enough to convince the general public or even a judge. craig himself is banking on this, but he is unable to produce the strongest circumstantial proof there is, else he would have done so already. look at him floundering around in court, trying every trick and getting reprimanded every time

>> No.55444038

>>55443950
fleeing into hypotheticals is not a great strategy when you can't argue reality

>> No.55444057

>>55440928
So, hear me out. I belive BSV can reach 20k in the next bull run, and 50k by 2028. This is a serious play: just 20 could make you very wealthy later on.

>> No.55444064

>>55442675
CentBee is pretty decent for beginners.
Electrum is probably the best but you need to understand what you're doing go use it

>> No.55444182

>>55444038
Hypotheticals is the only way to force you to address your own mental gymnastics, where you act as if there's only one thing he could do to prove his identity. And I noticed you conveniently didn't answer.

>> No.55444197
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>>55441614
This is just sad honestly

>> No.55444198

How do I get it off coinbase?

>> No.55444461

>>55444182
>there's only one thing he could do to prove his identity
it is the obvious one, the way he designed himself to prove ownership (i hope you learned this, you can spare yourself the embarrassment that way next time). childishly trying to evade into imaginary scenarios won't make the main point go away: if he has the keys, it's in his direct interest to use them. he's trying his hardest to go every other way, he's not even above lying and editing old blog posts to look credible. he's aching to sign, yet he doesn't. it's a conundrum

>> No.55444516

>>55444461
>Craig signs
>whole world realises Craig is Satoshi and the Satoshi coins are in play and can be dumped at any time
>whales and institutions dump en masse in an effort to front run Satoshi
>BTC goes to zero
Why won't he just sign?

>> No.55444599

>>55444516
>Why won't he just sign?
apart from attention, he's after the satoshi coins anyway. that's why he's trying so hard to convince a judge that he's satoshi, it's to bully the bitcoin devs into "giving the coins back". if that teenager tier plan makes zero sense to you, welcome to the club. it would be comical if he didn't steer himself into this corner where he perceives this as his only way out. he's a failed existence, lacking the awareness and integrity to back down

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>> No.55446945

>>55441984
>1 BSV = 1200
Delusion

>> No.55446952

Even Money Button is dropping BSV.

>> No.55446968

>>55443712
>Oct 2022

Hasn't he been off twitter since 2019?

>> No.55447355

>>55446945
i will buy at $1200.

as in never.

>> No.55448516

>>55441614
Don't like it?
Stiff !

>> No.55448526

>>55440928
Yes

>> No.55449396

>>55446952
money button was bought by the btc trannies aka digital currency group

>> No.55449402

>>55442744
source?

>> No.55449410

>>55446968
he's back on twitter

>> No.55449417

>>55449396
>>55446952
money button sucked massive cock

>> No.55449564

>A WIFI PINEAPPLE

>> No.55451092

>>55440928
What are some of the books pictured?

>> No.55452655

If Craig is Satoshi that means all of "crypto" is a scam. The financial incentive for Craig to not be Satoshi is literally trillions of dollars.

>> No.55452665

>>55441614

whats to explain, if u cant see through midwit troll nonsense then you don't deserve to have any BSV

>> No.55453104

>>55443712

read section 10 of the white paper, troll. It literally says the opposite of that. Keys and identity are firewalled and a new key is used for every transaction. In fact if he signed it would prove he's not Satoshi or at least doesn't understand his own white paper

>> No.55453678

>>55444057
Fucking hell! It's 2023 ffs can't you retards leave deadbeats tokens and move onto new utility tokens with working products.

>> No.55454223

>>55453678
We have seen this before, retards would rather opt to shiny names with zero utility while also trying to jump into every shitcoins.

>> No.55454509

>>55454223
They would rather have a portfolio filled with PEPE, WOJAK, BABYDOGEELON than invest in real utility tokens like GRAIL and NXRA.

>> No.55456006

>>55452665
It's web.archive.org, and the links are provided. This is about as big a smoking gun as you can get. 100% proof that your boy Craig is full of shit. Fucking hilarious, honestly. Who actually believed him, honestly? Who is that stupid?

>> No.55456014

>1 bsv
Lmao even if it teleported to #2 overnight that's NOTHING you cultfags have missed out on so much

>> No.55456032

>>55442923
>he literally doesn't need to
This excuse has been pathetic for years now.

>> No.55457042

>>55453678
>utility tokens with working products.
lmao
there aren't any

>> No.55457212
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>>55441614
>>55456006
firstly, it's an archive of an archive. the 2008 original page doesn't exist. this could have been edited in 2014 by "someone", saved by the scraper and then edited again and uploaded again later.
for some reason there is nothing existing pre 2014
blogspot.com.au was not craigs blog url as listed on his 200X CV, it was just blogspot.com, it also could have been a fake server that the scraper pulled
it has been proven that the person that leaked everything to wired and gizmodo lived somewhere near craig in aus (a seething ex employee, jamie wilson) and they could have created this .au blogsite to fool the archive
>https://web.archive.org/web/20150525013625/http://gse-compliance.blogspot.com/2008_08_24_archive.html
on the normal url (not .au), the first upload shows the crypto version of this page
pic related
hmmmmmm wat to believe, but i think im going with craig over the bunch of grifting faggots that can't scale btc

>> No.55458966
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55458966

>>55457212
what about this?

>> No.55458983
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55458983

>>55457212
or this?

>> No.55458990

>>55457212
>im going with craig over the bunch of grifting faggots
You clearly weren't reading his blogpost, creg is the biggest faggot of them all, lol.

>> No.55459620
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>>55458966
kpmg report was flawed and deboonked, other experts that were probably much more competent were unable to replicate their results
>>55458983
probably a fake quote, satoshi never posted on bitcointalk, doesn't fit with the rest of the post
>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=342
too convenient that this page has been saved just the once, ironically just one month previously. searching that first paragraph doesn't bring any results in a search engine
big hmmmm
second gotchums is that craig is disregarding home nodes and what craig is talking about applies to miners as home nodes are truly worthless wastes of electricity

pic related is the big proof every day, bitcoin can scale and btc doesn't
/theend

>> No.55460432

>>55459620
>satoshi never posted on bitcointalk
Wrong. You are likely a paid pajeet shill.
https://finbold.com/three-satoshi-nakamotos-gem-posts-on-bitcointalk-from-back-in-the-days/

>> No.55460443

>>55459620
and also can we address how big of a faggot creg is based on his language in my original post? Like, holy shit. This is your guy? LOL. It would be impossible to hide that level of cringe in 1000+ posts. Go look at how the real satoshi communicates, it couldn't be farther from that man-kisser creg's mode of speech. Creg is a blowhard faggot, satoshi was a chill logician.

>> No.55460967

>>55460432
absolute retard, very wrong newfag, ALL posts were ported from bitcoin.sourceforge.net and satoshi NEVER claimed or posted from the bitcointalk account
the mods at bitcointalk have had control over the account from its inception
>>55460443
he's autism and satoshi let it fly sometimes

>> No.55461017

>>55460967
WRONG, It's actually you that's the fucking newfag pajeet paid shill piece of faggot dogshit, ser. A fraction of the posts were moved from sourceforge, the majority were made on bitcointalk. Once you're done street shitting, show your BSV bags and leverage the shit out of it if you think it's actually NOT a scam piece of shit. I'll wait.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=56272.0

>> No.55461082
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>>55461017
I've got a million of these examples of your boy being caught out, shall I keep going?

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>>55460432
>https://www.whois.com/whois/bitcointalk.org
site registered in 2011 and satoshis last post was in 2010 so how is that?
posts could have been changed, removed or added by none other than le gregory maxwell and his plebbit buddies
>http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=0ye0gncqg772o
this is the only existing true satoshi account

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55461103

>>55460967
just go back to scamming old people, you're not cut out for paid shilling

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55461113

>>55461082
>posts a plebbit pic of greg talking to himself
we all know he's a sneaky and crafty jew kike given the public history of his wikipedia antics

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>>55461103
if you actually take the time to respond to all of these lol, then we know for sure it's your job

>> No.55461182

>>55461103
doesn't mean anything, greggles assuming, that people can't change something and go back to it
>>55461117
yes i remember this one, the article on medium by a samwell something probably mr maxwell suggested someone should contact the university to organise a barrage, which happens when he doesn't want to be involved and the source is garbage, the university said they would investigate and nothing more was heard from the core trannies
fake and gay

>> No.55461193

>>55441024
Im equally confident you will kill yourself so thats why I have none.

>> No.55461222

>>55457212
craig being a liar and a fraud is confirmed for many years now. do some actual research.

>> No.55461234

everything, all the haters, nonbelievers, dire financial situation, it all would ho away if he signed a message. in one second, a life redeemed, every doubter proven wrong, a massive success for craig. yet, nothing. the courier will fix it, he's scheduled to arrive any minute now

>> No.55461334
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>>55461222
>>55459620
>>55461089
pic relateds are my research
he was right all along and it goes along with what satoshi said - micropayments, digital cash etc
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYskRI0ynAM
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwopmmsNeCs
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1yNQSW8jGA
craigs thinking is far ahead of anyone else and speaks very eloquently when hes not being hounded or pressured
>>55461082
this pic sums up everything nicely, greg is tried to blackmail craig into satoshi and he'll stop with his brigade of fake and gay fud
craig quite rightly told him to fuck off

>> No.55461351

>>55443818
they are irrelevant
only BCH and BSV matter

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>>55461334
These videos are hilarious, listen to this dipshit ramble on about rfid tracking aluminum cans out into the ocean. NEVER going to happen, the real Satoshi would never be giving an interview and blowing smoke up asses for hours on end. The interviewer is even skeptical lol.

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>>55461351
Are you the one guy that isn't getting paid and actually believes bch and bsv are the future? That's adorable.

>> No.55461469

>>55461334
https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2020/05/25/craig-wright-called-fraud-in-message-signed-with-bitcoin-addresses-he-claims-to-own/

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>>55461334
Craig claims he destroyed his own keys, you can't make this shit up.

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/09/15/craig-wright-tells-court-he-stomped-on-the-hard-drive-containing-satoshi-wallet-keys/

>> No.55461573

>>55461479
the story changes all the time, i think the current version is that they are destroyed, but it would be possible (albeit very difficult) to restore them. keeping things gray is usually a good tactic if you don't want to get nailed down as a scammer, but the black or white nature of cryptography really does him no favors here. he should have lied about something unverifiable, like being jesus or something

>> No.55461588

>>55440928
Of course not. Why would I buy a scam?
Craig Wright has been taken to court. He's a fraud.

https://privacypros.io/stop-craig-wright/

>> No.55461589

>>55461573
i meant to say unfalsifiable, but craig apologists won't know the difference anyway

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>>55461469
im bored of going over antique fud now but this was because shadders an nchain employee compiled a list of 30000 or so addresses using an algorithm with an error
and actually iirc, the address
>16cou7Ht6WjTzuFyDBnht9hmvXytg6XdVT
was provided from an edited loan or purchase document between craig and that asian girl (3rd satoshi member) by ira's lawyers in one of the earliest evidence discoveries
so again, your fud is all fake and gay from greg maxwell. it's all so tiresome
>>55461479
he did that so he can prove a point by going to court and order the btc devs to carry out fiducial duties which is yet to reach a conclusion

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>>55461456
and who do you listen to, time and time again the fud is disproven. greg maxwell the literal who is feeding all the fud to you and you're believing the guy that is ruining bitcoin funded by mastercard, a competitor to the true bitcoin. a communist plebbitor
very embarrassing, honestly. who's really the paid shill here

>> No.55461973

>>55461619
you work at nchain don't you.

>> No.55462150

Satoshi
>created a system where you can prove things yourself with no requirement of a central authority
>in fact, you should be skeptical of anyone who claims to be a central authority that decides what’s true
>schizo about opsec to the point that fifteen years later nobody that knows who the fuck he is has said so publicly
>writes in a calm, logical manner which shows he puts a lot of thought into everything he writes online
creg
>absolute faggot
>extreme attention seeker narcissist
>refuses to use the individual proof he “created” and instead relies on a centralized authority to decide what’s true, which he will simply brute force until he gets the outcome he wants
>wants everyone’s real life identity attached to everything done in the crypto space
>bootlicker supreme
>writing style shows his emotional state at the time greatly affects what he says
>seems ignorant of Satoshi’s own writings, which is odd to say the least if they’re the same person
retards
>they’re totally the same person guys

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>>55459620
>That pic
This one is more recent

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>>55463543
This one is from today you disingenuous faggot

>> No.55463644

No. I don't buy shitcoins.

>> No.55463656

>>55457212
>copeposting THIS hard
creig? that you?

>> No.55463849

>Claims to be Satoshi
>Also claims to be from the fictional land of Oz
Why are Anglos like this? We wasted two nukes on the wrong country, should have glassed bongland

>> No.55464404

>>55462150
this, so fucking obviously this, like .....how can anyone believe they're the same person? Creg is the most hardcore narcisist blowhard in crypto, the 100% complete opposite of Satoshi. Just look at the language in the white paper, then look at craigs blogs lol. Do you think for 1 second that he wouldn't have just peppered that shit with creg-isms about wine and kissing boys?

>> No.55464483

>>55462150
>schizo about opsec to the point that fifteen years later nobody that knows who the fuck he is has said so publicly
>swallows his ego and constructs an entirely new extreme attention seeker narcissist persona who contradicts everything Satoshi says and stands for and commits to the role for years on end so that nobody will ever believe he is really Satoshi after he is unexpectedly outed by Wired and Gizmodo
Genius