/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.55314701]

Why isn't the economy organized in such a way that robots, automation etc. would bring forth a reduction in work time instead of causing a panic for a job shortage? I don't get it.

The Greeks didn't sperg out about "muh jobs" if a new batch of slaves arrived.

[Anonymous No.55314715]

>>55314701
Work is mostly just babysitting

[Anonymous No.55314732]

>>55314701
philosophysisters, we really are all going to make it

t. MA in philosophy in 2014, focused on Heidegger's critique of technology

unironically a manager of a coffee shop

[The buyer of /biz/ No.55314750]

>>55314701
>Why
Jews

[Anonymous No.55314754]

>>55314701
Because robots aren't good enough yet to replace everyone

[Anonymous No.55314755]

>>55314715

People don't get this. Most white collar work is just you being on call for whenever you're needed. You aren't a sweatshop monkey.

[Anonymous No.55314763]

>>55314701
>The Greeks didn't sperg out about "muh jobs" if a new batch of slaves arrived.
The older slaves certainly did.

[Anonymous No.55314768]

>>55314701
That's their plan though

We still don't have the technology to automatize everything. When we have it they're going to hand out UBI tied to CBDCs so you will be a full blown slave. Of course people are going to cheer for it thinking it's free money but you'll have to pay a hefty prize for it

[Anonymous No.55314772]

>>55314701
that is what they do, yes. the actual question is, why don't you recognize it? your job is to save work time on behalf of a customer and the machine's job is to save work time on behalf of a customer and if it's better than you then your job should not exist because that's the definition of malinvestment, which makes you poorer.

[Anonymous No.55314800]

>>55314701
The economy is organized that way, because that's the reality of what will happen. The "panic" is completely manufactured by people working in either the media or government, because their socio-political "economy" relies on people being misinformed or underinformed so they'll freak out and pick a side to vote for instead of, y'know, just finding another job or even retiring. There are multiple living generations who are completely convinced that they need to work for Job Daddy until they die because that's what they've been told their entire lives by a bunch of politicians who got their start during the fucking Cold War.

[Anonymous No.55314860]

>>55314701
you are not the "greek", you're the slave

[Anonymous No.55314937]

>>55314732
The philosophy of factory workers is worth more to society than you.
How does that feel?

How does it feel for "me work, get money, grug" to be actually, as in for real, a better philosophy than you've acquired from reading over decades?

[Anonymous No.55315005]

>>55314701
>Why isn't the economy organized
here is your problem, the economy is too complex for humans to manage top down. no one can. In fact i would say all top down management is bad. I suggest readin "I, Pencil" its a great little thing about how it would be impossible for any one person to micro manage the production of pencils. and i also suggest reading "Economics In One Lesson" for soem basics, i recall there is a section that goes into what happened when automation took over the tailoring industry. overall everyone got more socks for cheaper, but it DOES impact people who were replaced

[Anonymous No.55315028]

Built for big black cock

[Anonymous No.55315053]

>>55315005

Yep, this is why central planning never works. Central planning can't handle the fucking postal service much less a macroeconomy.

[Anonymous No.55315122]

>>55314860
This. Compare Hammurabi Code for free men and slaves, we are the slaves.

[Anonymous No.55315174]

>>55314701
Huh? Over reliance on slaves was a huge deal in the ancient world.

The city of Rome during the Roman empire was swamped with people because so many of them were displaced after being replaced on their farms by slave labor.

If you rely on the slaves to do everything (surgery, law, politics, etc) - then you're the actual slave.

[Anonymous No.55315184]

>>55314732
Based. You just have to make it in crypto or get a very profitable side hustle to live an authentic life.

[Anonymous No.55315185]

>>55314701
>The Greeks didn't sperg out about "muh jobs" if a new batch of slaves arrived.
They didn't, but the slaves did. If there were many slaves, each individual slave was treated more poorly, all things being equal, since there were a lot of slaves and each one was, individually, not worth much. In contrast, after the Black Death had swept Europe and eliminated half of the working-age population, the working conditions of serfs improved because of the labor shortage.
That you have to care about the influx of additional workers nowadays tells you what your position in the system is.

[Anonymous No.55315195]

>>55315174

Julius Caesar was the Trump of that era lmao

[Anonymous No.55315227]

>>55314937
nothing in your post is philosophy

[Anonymous No.55315241]

>>55315195
kys comparing one of the the greatest men in history to an impotent zionist fuck

[Anonymous No.55315262]

>>55315241

Way to out yourself as a retard. Similarly railed against illegal/slave labor, was a populist figure, butted heads with the Senate and establishment nobility, it's just an analogy faggot.

[Anonymous No.55315325]

>>55314701
Robots and automation do bring in a reduction in work time which benefits the business owners. The workers however need a job to get money so they can eat, so how would getting them off jobs help them exactly?

[Anonymous No.55315405]

>>55315262
>you’re retarded if you compare someone who did great things to someone who said he’s gonna do great things but didn’t do shit except for jews and niggers because he’s a zionist controlled op
That’s not what analogy means, clinically narcissistic npc
back to r*ddit subhuman

[Anonymous No.55315416]

>>55315405

Nice buzzwords. You are a window licking chimp.

[Anonymous No.55315420]

>>55315325
How about they automate the jobs they sent to China first creating extra jobs for Americans first?

[Anonymous No.55315438]

>>55315416
>no argument
>ad hominem
I swear I’ve seen several retards using the exact same phrases, must be a bot

[Anonymous No.55315441]

>>55314701
We could have kept the standard of living we had in the 80s and work like 20 hours/week. But people are stupid and easily manipulated.

[Anonymous No.55315446]

>>55315438

Your greentext is the exact thing you did you absolute fucking moron. You also shoehorned the latest zoomie buzzword "narcissist" which straight up doesn't apply at all lmfao.

[Anonymous No.55315448]

>>55314701
>reduction of worktime instead of replacement
Kek
Do you think business owners buy automation solutions to improve worker quality of life or to cheapen work force you dumb nigga?

[Anonymous No.55315484]

>>55315448
Nigger. This is a hard r board

[Anonymous No.55315487]

>>55315446
>explain there’s no comparison between Caesar and trump
>instant raging ad hominem in return from a narcissistic subhuman who can’t stand being wrong about something
>lmfao.
there’s no difference between npcs and bots these days

[Anonymous No.55315500]

>>55315484
trying too hard newfag

[Anonymous No.55315502]

>>55315487

There is a comparison, I made it. Keep buzzword dumping you crayon eating nigger fag.

[Anonymous No.55315533]

>>55315325
Well that's the point, why isn't the economy organized so that the workers also get a reduction in work time, it seems odd.

[Anonymous No.55315535]

>>55315502
your forced comparison to Caesar could be applied to half the US presidents after WWII, all equally ridiculous. There is nothing similar about impotent zionist puppet like trump and military and political genius like Caesar
you’re a narcissistic npc from r*ddit who needs to gtfo back there

[Anonymous No.55315548]

>>55315227
What about the post I replied to?

[Anonymous No.55315557]

>>55315535

Not at all, you fucking retard. The past 40 years of Presidents have been interchangeable suits who agree with noble establishment types on everything other than one randomly chosen kids menu social issue like abortion or gay rights.

>zionist narcissitic npc reddit bot

You're like a vapid buzzword dictionary, can you say nigger? I bet not since you're the real reddit newfag. Fuck off

[Anonymous No.55315558]

>>55315548
nothing either. Dogs hunting for food is not philosophy

[Anonymous No.55315567]

>>55315558
>>55315535
>>55315487
>>55315438
>>55315420

Holy shit you are the lowest quality poster on /biz/. Unironically kys.

[Anonymous No.55315594]

>>55315557
>Obama wasn’t a populist
>Reagan wasn’t a populist
>JFK wasn’t a populist
>Trump’s term wasn’t an empty suit that only left things worse
>you can’t use words that accurately describe things b- because.. BECAUSE YOU CANT OK???
>r*ddit spacing while trying to no u
>every historical figure that was a populist and anti establishment was like Caesar
lol, lmao on second thought keep posting subhuman it’s hilarious

[Anonymous No.55315610]

>>55315567
>no argument
>you’re b- bad because ok?!!
imagine being triggered so hard kek

[Anonymous No.55315620]

>>55315594

>Obama a populist

Holy fucking shit dude.... he was at the top of the uniparty pyramid. My God.

[Anonymous No.55315629]

>>55314715
I'm a teacher and this completely hits home

[Anonymous No.55315632]

>>55315594
>>55315610

Also don't forget you are a nigger, and can't say nigger because you're a redditor trying to wear 4chan clothing. Don't forget! Nigger! :---)

[Anonymous No.55315642]

>>55315594
>>55315557
You two are both retarded. It's entirely an information war. Expecting a president to "do something" is retarded if you mean direct action.
The reason Trump makes people seethe so much is because the only power a president has is what he spouts off about. The "bully pulpit."

Trump said things like "We left Syria, but we're keeping the oil!" Hilarious things that reveal what's really going on.
He was a wrecking ball in that regard. They can't have that again.

t. when don't vote but can think more deeply than hurrdurr he didn't build a wall or (insert president) and (insert thing he didn't do).

[Anonymous No.55315650]

>>55315620
>more r*ddit spacing
>zoomer npc doesn’t remember that Obama was presented as a populist, non-establishment figure
>npc thinks no u is an argument
>still has no argument for comparing trump to Caesar

[Anonymous No.55315660]

>>55315650

>uhh uhh reddit spacing
>uhh uhh npc npc npc

NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

[Anonymous No.55315673]

>>55315632
>mom I’m on 4chins look I said nigger
>:—-)
npcs are subhumans
>>55315642
>two more weeks patriots are in control presidents can’t do anything unless they’re democrats and just break fucking constitution
kys midwit

[Anonymous No.55315687]

>55315660
kek it’s broken

[Anonymous No.55315696]

>>55314701
>if a new batch of slaves arrived
And who do you think the slaves are?

[Anonymous No.55315706]

>>55315673
>>55315687

Lmao he's going all out now

>npc npc zoomer midwit reddit
>I'm going to try out the epic not post linking trick

NIGGERRRRRRRR

[Anonymous No.55315737]

>>55315706
>admits it’s an actual triggered npc and not even a shitty bot
>you can’t call me an npc after I get triggered for pointing out I was wrong like a non-thinking animal
lol, lmao even

[Anonymous No.55315759]

>>55315673
>calls me a midwit
>Is trapped in some sort of Q psyop but thinks he's not because he doesn't believe it but then reacts to everything he sees with Q in mind
Jesus Christ they've done a number on people.

[Anonymous No.55315804]

There needs to be a summary execution for everyone in this thread, and in biz. Not 4chan itself, because every other board is in line with expectations but this board and the subhuman 80 IQ retards who post here unironically need to all be killed off with extreme prejudice. DAY of the bullet can't come soon enough, hopefully it's in 2024 when people chimp out over Biden winning again by a landslide

[Anonymous No.55315813]

>>55315759
>still not a single argument to justify the comparison or ad hominem it made
>delusional ramblings about Q because reading comprehension
keep going

[Anonymous No.55315814]

>>55315804
>says the guy that isn't armed at all from his mom's basement

[Anonymous No.55315830]

>>55315813
>patriots in control
It's you that said it.
You are totally usurped by them and can't think except for in a black and white, this or that, manner.

[Anonymous No.55315836]

>>55315759
>>55315814
my bad, it’s the other retard who tries to pretend trump pardoned jewish oligarch criminals while leaving his supporters to rot in prison being a part of some 4D chess, unironically regurgitating the Q narrative while trying to project it on me

[Anonymous No.55315867]

>>55315830
> Expecting a president to "do something" is retarded if you mean direct action. The reason Trump makes people seethe so much is because the only power a president has is what he spouts off about. The "bully pulpit." Trump said things like "We left Syria, but we're keeping the oil!" Hilarious things that reveal what's really going on. He was a wrecking ball in that regard. They can't have that again.

>posts a literal Q tier: “trump wasn’t a controlled op, he was just meant to do nothing” narrative
>tries to gaslight you that you’re the one believing in Q narratives
absolute midwit or just a jew

[Rus No.55315873]

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[Anonymous No.55315911]

>>55315867
>>55315836

It's time for your meds, Dontavious

[Anonymous No.55315966]

>>55314701
greedy people were more quickly ostracized for being greedy in the ancient days.

today we dont know their names.
cancel rich people and dont take their money, then they are poor.

[Anonymous No.55315971]

Jews

[Anonymous No.55316016]

>>55315966

Do you joke, anon? Most ancient societies were composed of 90% hard working penniless peasantry, 9% merchants/scholars/clergy/managers and 1% nobility.

This "big middle class" paradigm is a modern anomaly and is fast disappearing, a regression to the norm. The truth is that society is more of a 90/10 split, 90% have nots and 10% haves. China is kind of like that right this moment.

[Anonymous No.55316035]

>>55315867
The "Q" narrative is that people follow Q and that anything that even resembles a neutral to positive comment about Trump is Q.
You are hook line and sinker are now incapable of having a conversation without referring to a psyop.

Yet somehow you think referring to a psyop constantly means you aren't being effected by the psyop?

[Sean No.55316052]

>>55314701
>The Greeks didn't sperg out about "muh jobs" if a new batch of slaves arrived.
Not true

[Anonymous No.55316078]

>>55315911
>>55316016
>>55315911
>>55316016
>it was like this in the past so it must be again in the future
>clinically narcissistic npc attempts to make more statements after pretending his previous one wasn’t refuted
>>55316035
>I have no clue what Q, two more weeks and any of that stuff means but I’ll push the Q narrative while accusing you of being obsessed by Q
The only psyop was that trump wasn’t a controlled zionist opposition
>but he mentioned military industrial complex
wow that’s what sold 70 IQ retards like you on him?

Which one of you two seething faggots reported me lmao

[Anonymous No.55316095]

>>55316078
>telling the country we are going to war just to steal oil is a bad thing
This is you. No one believes you. Projecting "Q" on me won't work you absolute seething faggot.

[Anonymous No.55316130]

>>55316095
>saying the water is wet when Obama and Biden used executive orders to fuck up political opposition instead is success
still voting Ye schlomo

[Anonymous No.55316422]

>>55316130
I haven't voted since for Ron Paul in 2012 when the republicans used voting machines to flip votes and cheat him in the primaries.
I have advised no one to vote in every election since.

[Anonymous No.55316802]

>>55314701
BUILT LITERALLY FOR BBC

[Anonymous No.55316851]

>>55314732
That’s not too bad. Easy work, spend free time reading or whatever

[Anonymous No.55316862]

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[Anonymous No.55316877]

>>55315195
>>55315262
Abraham Lincoln was the president most historically similar to Julius Caesar
We're not waiting for the emperor anymore, we're waiting for the sack