Cautionary Tale: Return to Office and Hybrid

[Anonymous No.55269982]

>Forbes 50 Company says it's mandatory to return to office 3 days a week
>Cannot return because moved 5 states away after sent WFH for covid in early 2020
>Apply for permanent WFH
>Denied because new policies by exec team made it purposely extremely difficult to get WFH
>Exec team eventually tells managers that they can get in trouble for having employees not come in
>Manager rats me out to HR to save their own ass, after giving me a great yearly review a week prior
>Terminated by HR on grounds of misconduct, as being in the office is a condition of employment (new policy made up a few months before mandatory return to office)
>Denied a massive severance pay bc of this (10yrs with company)
>Denied unemployment insurance because of "misconduct"

This is how corporations are lowering headcount, but also not paying out severance, and unemployment insurance. Thanks for playing.

[Anonymous No.55270007]

>>55269982
>Cannot return because moved 5 states away
Sure you can - you could get inside a vehicle or airplane

[Anonymous No.55270035]

>>55270007
This.
OP is just making excuses.

[Anonymous No.55270040]

I'd like to know what's behind this attack on WFH. It seems almost... Coordinated. Even not-so-large companies are doing that. To what ends? And who's behind all this?

[Anonymous No.55270051]

I can't stop fapping while working from

[Anonymous No.55270087]

>>55270007
By that logic, he could also move to Antarctica. While it is true, the statement does thematize the practical difficulties of this course of action. Difficulties can be overcome, as you said, but he is talking about the cost of overcoming them.

[Anonymous No.55270103]

>>55270087
>the statement does thematize the practical difficulties of this course of action
He got himself into the difficulty by moving 5 states away by choice

[Anonymous No.55270133]

>>55270087
>thematize

[Anonymous No.55270134]

>Blown the fuck out because he tried to real estate arbitrage
lmao

[Anonymous No.55270165]

>>55269982
people need to start [REDACTED] jewish executives and their shabbos goyim management lackeys.

[Anonymous No.55270168]

>>55270040
it's not really a conspiracy so much as that people don't actually work when they work from home.
finally dawned on me this morning, the reason boomers preach about hard work so much is because they are lazy and don't do anything at all.
so they get on about working hard to overcompensate since they know how much of their time is unproductive.

[Anonymous No.55270176]

>>55270040
Real estate boomers.

[Anonymous No.55270177]

>>55270040
executives aren't strong, independent leaders. they're low IQ psychotic retards who follow group think trends.
>one major company salutes groid floyd
>all major companies salute groid floyd
>one major company fly fag flag during june
>all major companies fly fag flag during june
>one major company lays off
>all major companies lay off
>one major company recalls to DA OFFICE
>all major companies recall to DA OFFICE

[Anonymous No.55270184]

>>55270040
The attack on WFH is definitely coordinated. They need to justify the existence of commercial real estate and middle management. Also they realized that when people WFH they consume less. Why else would billionaires be screeching about how terrible WFH is?

[Anonymous No.55270188]

>>55270051
same, was just watching porn while in a meeting, with my video on. Didn't jack it but as soon as the meeting was over I beat my meat to some nigerian girl anal

[Anonymous No.55270213]

>>55270040
To prop up the Commercial Real Estate Market. Companies don't want to write off the value of their CRE (offices), and the Investment Banks have big exposure to CRE as well.

[Anonymous No.55270230]

>>55270168
>it's not really a conspiracy so much as that people don't actually work when they work from home.

What difference does it make if I'm sitting at my desk (at work) doing work, or sitting at my desk (at home)?

Zero. My boss still sets x,y,z deliverables due by a certain date.

[Anonymous No.55270249]

Where did the misconception originate that all jobs need to be done by working every second of a whole 8 hours a day 5 days a week? And that somehow by sitting at a desk in some building somehow = working, even if you actually aren't doing anything? It's genuinely absurd. Yeah no shit most people aren't spending the whole 8 hours working and yeah no shit people are doing other things while WFH. As long as deadlines are met and work is completed, what is the problem? Why do people have to be cattle for bullshit jobs so some middle managing dickhead can jerk off to the power trip?

[Anonymous No.55270250]

>>55270168
It's not that WFH doesn't work, it's just that it exposed that from the 8 hours we usually spend in offices, only 2-3 are actually getting work done and the rest is just contemplating the void in our souls and, in our collective case, throwing shit at eachother because of meme coins.
You are right about boomers not doing anything though, they simply enjoy the impression of getting work done, even if they haven't actually produced anything.

[Anonymous No.55270265]

>>55269982
I'm just never going back to the office, sorry moshe

[Anonymous No.55270287]

Yeah dude I have a feeling they’re priming to shitcan me for this as well. I have probably only 80% in office attendance, maybe lower like 75%. But I also literally don’t have enough fucking time to drive into the office and still complete all my work, not to mention my overall productivity decrease because I can’t fucking get food or smoke at my desk.

[Anonymous No.55270289]

>>55270230
>What difference does it make if I'm sitting at my desk (at work) doing work, or sitting at my desk (at home)?
you're not focused + engaged at home.
you're doing the laundry/dishes.
working out.
making another snack.
jacking off.
playing video games.
and a much higher likelihood of being day drunk.
>Zero. My boss still sets x,y,z deliverables due by a certain date.
even if you meet the deliverables on the set dates, you're not delivering at the level of quality you used to deliver while working in the office, when your were held hostage and forced to focus.

[Anonymous No.55270306]

>>55270289
>you're not focused + engaged at home.
i am, to the extent that i increased my salary from $70k to $130k over the past 3 years while working from home.

[Anonymous No.55270307]

>>55270249
Manufacturing mentality.

[Anonymous No.55270313]

>>55270289
Maybe if you’re an inferior life form you do less. I for one get hopped up on stimulates and play super wagie simulator at home, can’t do that shit in-office

[Anonymous No.55270322]

>>55270289
I genuinely cannot focus at the office because it is a cold windowless dungeon where I am forced to hear the noises of dozens of other people at the cost of every single convenience I had from home. Stop assuming that everyone is a lazy retard like yourself who can only work while under the watch of Mr. Shekelberg.

[Anonymous No.55270330]

>>55270040
It's Jews every time

[Anonymous No.55270336]

>>55270289
>Source: Trust me bro.

There are an equal number of distractions in the office.

>Hey annon! It's Shaniquas birthday, and we're collecting for a card!
>Hey annon! Are you coming to the diversity seminar later?
>Hey annon did you hear about the latest niggerball score?

[Anonymous No.55270340]

>>55270289
>Forced to focus
>On a packed hundred person open floor plan with hotdesking, when half the stakeholders are in another state
Retarded concept. I get better attendance from key stakeholders since meetings became remote and we stopped wasting chunks of time commuting to a random floor to get to a random meeting room, and the fuckwits dialling into my meeting from the office always have to keep themselves on mute because of all the background noise.
Shit employees deliver shit work wherever they are.

[Anonymous No.55270343]

>>55269982
imagine working in an all male office looks so comfy bros the only thing I hated about the office was the social aspect and the fact they expect you to talk at a level between not projecting your voice at all but also not whispering or talking "softly".

[Anonymous No.55270374]

>>55270336
>Sure is a hot one?
>How about all that rain?
>Man I can't believe it's already June
>Happy Friday!
>Got a case of the Mondays
I swear to god if I have to hear another one of my middle age coworkers talk about the weather or how fast time is moving I'm going to have a conniption

[Anonymous No.55270382]

>>55270040

A lot of stuff in business is momentum/trend based. You don't want to be the odd man out laying people off or forcing them back in, just like you didn't want to be the odd man out not doing wfh during COVID. Ultimately a lot of older middle management/exec types want their workers in the office as they see it as boosting productivity.

Dogma is rarely the way though. Offering remote/wfh can snag you higher octane workers willing to do less pay with the same productivity as they tend to be self motivated. It's just a matter of snuffing out the lazies.

[Anonymous No.55270394]

>>55270289
Most offices are fundamentally unproductive from higher quality employees:
>shared cubes or open concept are painful to work in
>your time is wasted helping morons who know where you sit do their jobs in addition to yours
>constant kitchen and hallway chat lower your productivity
>the kitchen and shitter often stink up the office
>constant stress from having to pretend you give a shit about co-workers, lest you be labeled unsociable
For high achievers with a quiet professional home office, WFH is vastly more productive.

[Anonymous No.55270395]

>>55270249
>As long as deadlines are met and work is completed, what is the problem?
As other anons, mentioned real estate funds/banks need people going to the office, HR ladies are all control freaks who want to monitor even how much time you spend in the bathroom, and deluded boomers unironically think spending a third of your adult life in an office equals productivity. God forbid we actually produce anything of value outside of this consoomerist socioeconomical system.

I'll rather be unemployed than work in an office.

>>55270177
I've observed this in LinkedIn. Everyone trying to copy what the big players are doing in hopes it will make their life less miserable.

[Anonymous No.55270407]

>>55270330
This

[Anonymous No.55270411]

Also all of the retards showing off on TikTok or bragging in /wfh/ about how lazy they are and aren't doing any work deserve this, it's not like the boomers aren't listening in some way

[Anonymous No.55270421]

>>55270394
Sharing a bathroom with everyone else is literally a pain in the ass because anytime I have to shit all the fucking stalls are full when at home I have my own bathroom I can use whenever I please.

[Anonymous No.55270424]

You have to say your kid is sick and that’s why you have to work from home. Indians do this so unashamedly it’s crazy

[Anonymous No.55270433]

>>55270249
>Where did the misconception originate that all jobs need to be done by working every second of a whole 8 hours a day 5 days a week?

Probably "muh protestant work ethic". It's ridiculous, no human being works at 100% efficiency 100% of the time. In Japan they would rather workers sleep at their desk than go home before the boss.

[Anonymous No.55270437]

>>55270051
More like Candlejack it!

[Anonymous No.55270448]

are you WFH fags not afraid of getting outsourced?

[Anonymous No.55270449]

>>55270421
be me work in a liquor store
private male only single toilet bathroom
have a cooler to dip into anytime
can talk loud/normal
mostly male, inappropriate shit nonstop
free drinks free wine discounts
paid lunch
no commute
no dress code
good exercise
no meetings
no boss telling me what to do
no morning shift
get as many hours as I want even OT
paid like half what I would be paid if I tortured myself for the office life

[Anonymous No.55270458]

>>55270040
Cool it with the antisemitic remarks

[Anonymous No.55270478]

>>55270448
>be a good little wagie cuck
>go back to the office like you are told to
>work extra hard to go above and beyond
>take on more work for nothing in return
>stay late in the office because you love the company
>"Sorry anon, looks like we're going to have to let you go. There are a lot of things to consider when running a company and some sacrifices need to be made."
>instantly replaced by some contract Pajeet in India
This literally happened to people where I work. If they want to outsource they'll be doing that anyway

[Anonymous No.55270503]

>>55270448
If they could do it, they would have done it already. So, no.

[Anonymous No.55270515]

>>55270448
physical presence means nothing. with manufacturing ripped out huge pieces of equipment and shipped it on a boat overseas.

[Anonymous No.55270516]

>>55270249
>As long as deadlines are met and work is completed, what is the problem?

That's it, the quality goes to shit and deadlines aren't met after a few months working from home and literally no one that prefers working from home understand this.

I don't want your bitch ass face in the office but what am I to do when someone behaves like a baby and need a grownup sitting a few meters away just to make sure you're not half-assing it?

Like fucking hell I've ran wah teams and half the people are amazing but half the people are the absolute worse and only use it as an excuse to not work.

[Anonymous No.55270521]

>>55270448
To who, a stinky useless pajeet?

[Anonymous No.55270526]

>>55270424

They're just playing the game. They know corporations are soulless robots. They use their leverage you should use yours.

[Anonymous No.55270530]

>>55270448
>he fell for the "everyone is equal" meme
I have an 135 IQ, no, I am not worried about getting replaced by an 80 IQ brown.

[Anonymous No.55270540]

>>55270516
>what am I to do when someone behaves like a baby and need a grownup sitting a few meters away just to make sure you're not half-assing it?

Tell them what the issue is, and how they can rectify it. I not, put them on a PIP. Same as any other employee.

[Anonymous No.55270548]

>>55270516
then fire them, retard.

[Anonymous No.55270550]

>>55270040
To delay corporate real estate crash (read: total financial death) and legally do mass layoffs in stealth without having to pay severance/unemployment stuff.

[Anonymous No.55270558]

>>55270516
Seems like a 'you' problem. If your garden needs constant attention you are a bad gardener.

[Anonymous No.55270595]

>>55270040
Boomers can't WFH. Neither can Zoomers. You have to appreciate that the Millennial generation was born at this incredibly specific moment in human history where they got to observe the Internet get born, so they have an intuitive understanding of how technology works.
Everything Der Ewige Boomer ever needed to know, he learned in 1975. Everything after that was "stupid" and "a waste of his time." This is why every single time you have a video chat with one of these decrepit oldlards it's like it's the first time they ever did it. It's why they "aren't great with email" despite this technology being 30-40 years old. It's why they ask people to print out emails so that they can read them. It's why they're using their AOL email to share protected healthcare information despite having a company email address with enterprise level security.
The Zoomulatto has a similar problem in that if there isn't an app on his phone for it, he doesn't know how to do it. A real conversation:
>"Find out the phone number and call this company and ask what the lead time is on this part."
>"Uhm, I don't know how to do that."
>"Do what?"
>"Anything you just said."
So yeah it's back to the office for most of us because despite the technology existing for a world where offices are obsolete, we have to cater to the needs of functional retards who literally cannot work unless there's someone micromanaging their every movement.

[Anonymous No.55270619]

I’m saving up as much money as possible and if I’m forced back into the office I will move to Thailand and degen out. I hate boomers and I hate landlord scum.

[Anonymous No.55270622]

>>55270040
Because people realized that the whole "remote workers are achtuallyyy more productive!" is total bullshit.

[Anonymous No.55270628]

Commercial real estate props up the ponzi. If it fails everything collapses. They’re over leveraged beyond belief.

[Anonymous No.55270642]

>>55270289
This is true. Anyone disagreeing is either the exception or just straight up lying. I love WFH obviously, but I'm not going to lie and say it's not easier to slack off at home.

[Anonymous No.55270656]

>>55270184
Also groupthink (as in company egregore or further thought even country egregore) doesn't work anymore, since we're social animals.
While the financial reasons counted in this thread all make sense, I think WFH seriously weakens central government, be it within a company or economic zones.

[Anonymous No.55270657]

>>55270622
>source: my ass
>source: anonymous employee survey that was manipulated by HR/executives
>source: trade journal article written by a jew who has commercial estate holdings

[Anonymous No.55270658]

>>55270530
Most companies don't care about that. If it's you or 80 IQ doing the same job, as long as they can push that work to the final consumer, it makes no difference to them.
Companies really don't care anymore about trying to innovate, or retaining good talent, or getting ahead from their competition, it's now all just about showing investors and shareholders big numbers and try to survive the next quarter. cash in flow high minus spend low = pretty profit $

>>55270595
That makes sense, unfortunately. I keep forgetting that normie office drones are all mouthbreathers.

[Anonymous No.55270680]

>>55269982
The building owners need to ensure that their commercial mortgages will be paid. Tens of billions of real estate at risk if people aren't forced back to the office, working from home could cause a worse recession. I don't agree with it at all, but it is what it is.

[Anonymous No.55270688]

>>55270595
kek. 1 year into perm remote, during the peak of covid, i had a 60 year old boomer tell his 40 something year old indian manager he didnt know how to schedule a teams meeting from outlook. his indian manager was so mad he was stuttering and having trouble talking.

[Anonymous No.55270696]

>>55270658
>If it's you or 80 IQ doing the same job, as long as they can push that work to the final consumer, it makes no difference to them.
This works right up until jeets create designated code, other jeets don’t QA/review it like they should, and an entire line of Boeing planes has to be grounded because a few of them glitched out and crashed and now the FAA is probing everyone’s assholes to find out what the fuck happened. High IQ people maintain civilization, there’s simply no way around it

[Anonymous No.55270732]

>>55270642
I mean yea, I got 7 replies and only 1 is honest.
maybe, maybe 1 of those 6 is the exception, but I seriously doubt.
people have a tendency to overestimate their importance/impact.
that being said, I think wfh is here to stay because it dramatically lowers consumption and is better for the environment, ala WEF goals.
just that employers will need to learn to adapt to a lower level of productivity/slower time to market.
wfh = lower costs + lower productivity.

[Anonymous No.55270759]

>>55270516
People who are unproductive at home are also unproductive at the office. That's it. That's the entire story. You just fail to notice it because you think a productive person is someone who has "meetings" for six hours a day where the primary point of discussion is when the next meeting should be. Boomers perfected the art of "loud quitting" where they do fuckall all damn day but they make themselves a part of everyone's workday to make it seem like they're present.

[Anonymous No.55270782]

>>55270759
Yeah they are constantly getting up from their desks and walking around chatting with everyone else all while complaining how busy they are. Seriously they talk so fucking much. To them the office is their little social club because they hate their families and hate being at home.

[Anonymous No.55270787]

>>55270448
More like the outsource pajeets are worried about getting ChatGPT-ed

[Anonymous No.55270805]

>>55270478
This. Front line managers usually have zero say in outsourcing. It's an executive decision so even if your manager likes you he can't save you.

[Anonymous No.55270812]

Forcing wagies to commute is a humiliation ritual and props up the commercial real estate market + other consumption related to office work. With WFH you consume less and regain your commute time. For all of those worried about climate change, reducing the amount of commuters actually does something to help the environment instead of the green energy grift that's the actual goal of the "climate change" agenda.

[Anonymous No.55270815]

>>55270688
The Boomer level of entitlement knows no bounds. Imagine a you run a hospital and one of your nurses doesn't know how to draw blood. Well, you train her or she's fired, right? Those are the options. You can't just not know how to do your job and expect to keep the job.
The Boomer meanwhile expects that them saying "I don't know how to do that" means that they don't have to do it, but can continued to get paid. That some younger person (who they openly deride as being lazy and entitled) needs to perform this task for them while they do nothing.
Total Boomer Holocaust is the only viable solution. Day of the Pillow when?

[Anonymous No.55270820]

>>55270516
>WFH is the problem
>half the people are amazing
Fuck off with the weak, inconsistent trolling.

[Anonymous No.55270857]

>>55270642
>slack off
But I don't care if you play vidya on company time if we're hitting our milestones.
t. program manager, former functional manager

[Anonymous No.55270865]

The recent push to take away WFH is not about worker efficiency, its about keeping the banks afloat. This is all happening because CRE is taking a fat fucking shit right now and lenders are panicking like mad. Lower office occupancy means lower property values and cashflow. They need workers to come back to keep their ponzi scheme going.

[Anonymous No.55270873]

>>55270732
>ala WEF goals
There's stated goals, and then there's actual goals.
Think about this: widespread WFH essentially solves most big city problems with urban mobility and pollution, and yet there are so many people attacking it. So you'd imagine WEF, UN and whatever would be at the frontline of defending WFH but... where are they?

Then you remember that WEF is basically politicians, bank cartels and financial institutions. Do you think they are more worried about ensuring business real estate does not collapse, or about carbon emissions?
I'm not even diving into conspiracies, it's just logic.

[Anonymous No.55270879]

I don't understand, if you don't revolt during the vaccine mandates, why get up in arms over returning the office? If you already gave up your bodily autonomy in exchange for a paycheck what difference does it make at that point? If you agreed to go get covid shots just for the sake of your job, then that to me says "I will do anything for my job", you already checked your dignity out a long time ago.

[Anonymous No.55270883]

>>55270873
You forgot the magic phrase "climate change." WFH solves "climate change" by all but eliminating car commuters, but WFH is still bad. Really activates the old almonds.

[Anonymous No.55270891]

>>55270815
I would like to thank both boomers and zoomers for being eternally retarded and keeping me gainfully employed in perpetuity.
boomers can use technology, but have a complete lack of curiosity or intuition and cannot adapt, they are a generation of 'practice makes perfect', devoid of any abstract thought or reasoning.
and zoomers, think everything is a touch screen. attention spans completely nuked by tiktok and 'youtube shorts'. and an absolute lack of ambition or need for purpose in the world.
that being said, millenials are anti-social and abrasive despite their ingenuity, massive drama queens; so the zoomers, 'the meek will inherit the earth', gaining most positions of power from the boomers, because they are so much more likeable then 95% of millenials.

[Anonymous No.55270895]

>>55270883
it was never about saving the climate. it was about taking money from the working classes.

[Anonymous No.55270926]

>>55270873
they care more regarding carbon emissions.
47% of businesses are big on ESG and of that 47% are massive globohomo corps.
they essentially expect a future apocolyspe of mass famine, disease, no energy etc.
when you're that rich, they're paranoid philanthropists like Bill Gates.
retards like musk are the outlier, who is ironically propped up by government subsidies for reducing carbon emissions.

[Anonymous No.55270941]

>>55270177
I worked for CitiBank in 2020-2021:
Each time some new flavor of the week current thing happened, we would receive a company-wide e-mail from the CEO to discuss it.
Obligatory e-mails for Fentynal Floyd, January 6th, the Chauvin trial, and Rittenhouse.
Also we were one of the few big banks that didn't have WFH during the pandemic: every other big bank like Goldman Sachs or Bank of America had remote work well into 2022.
We had to work onsite every day during the pandemic, get our temperature scanned, wear a mask at all times, and do all of that social distancing shit like having select bathroom stalls blocked off to keep everyone 6 feet apart.

[Anonymous No.55270963]

>>55270891
I have Zoomer coworkers at my office: they're effectively the same as Boomers in the sense that they suck with basic technology that isn't a phone.
They don't know how to use the search feature in Windows, for example, and they have no concept of organizing files with a file structure, so everything gets lost and disorganized.

[Anonymous No.55270974]

>>55270941
>We had to
No, you did it because you’re the goodest of goyim. If it was really that awful, why not work for one of the other banks who you said yourself let you wfh?
>>55270963
To be fair, the windows search is absolute garbage 90% of the time

[Anonymous No.55270998]

>>55270974
>No, you did it because you’re the goodest of goyim. If it was really that awful, why not work for one of the other banks who you said yourself let you wfh?
Now you're being the Boomer here. You don't just quit and magically find a new job the next day. I was working at some shittier bank before Citi, sent my resume to dozens of employers, had countless interviews, got ghosted too many times, and finally after months of searching I landed a role at Citi which offered more pay.
The catch was that it was onsite only, and a few weeks into the position and I realized it was a woke company.
Obviously I wasn't going to just quit Citi immediately after going through hell to join, then walk into Goldman's offices the same afternoon, look the manager in the eye, shake his hand and ask for a job.

[Anonymous No.55271017]

>>55269982
>>Denied unemployment insurance because of "misconduct"
This is the part where I know it's a LARP. Disqualifying misconduct has to be, like, actively sabotaging the business. "You need to come in," "I can't, I moved because you said it was okay," doesn't count. If not LARP, would contact congressional reps, DoL, employment lawyer. You're probably owed 5-6 figures.

[Anonymous No.55271039]

>>55270782
>"Hey Marlene, can we table our 11 o'clock to next Thursday? I've gotta go over the KPI numbers with Bill and after that we're grabbing lunch with the Risk department to talk about that recent thing with Evervox. After that I gotta head out early. Accounting is having a birthday party for Brenda and if I don't show face you know how she can be. Wait did I say next Thursday? Lets make it the 29th, I'm gonna be out next Thursday, I'm getting a steroid shot for my knee."
>*hangs up*
>*shops on Amazon for a solid two hours*
>*clicks a link in a phishing email*
>*holds up IT for another two hours playing phone tag with them*
>*cancels all his appointments and refuses to do what he calls work until the "lazy Millennials in IT" can "fix his computer"
>"Ahh yes, truly I am the rock upon which this company rests."

[Anonymous No.55271045]

>>55269982
>Get hired
>Covid happens so WFH
>Decide to move 5 states away
>Covid ends
>"But how can I come into the office now???"
Absolute retard

[Anonymous No.55271081]

>>55270040
Commercial real estate dump and pump by fellow white people
can't you see the headlines everywhere
> sell sell sell commercial real estate dumping oh nononono sell !!!11!!

[Anonymous No.55271083]

>>55270998
Never said it was easy, just that you'd do it if you actually hated the flu theater as much as it sounded like you did
>and a few weeks into the position and I realized it was a woke company.
It’s a multinational bank, anon. I’d sooner expect a beer and pork bbq place to open in Mecca than to see a multinational bank that’s based. They’re not just woke, they’re the original forces behind woke

[Anonymous No.55271152]

>>55270040
covid is over and even leftists/libs think that

[Anonymous No.55271183]

>>55271152
Thank God ukraine is now the current thing we hear endlessly at least ot doesn't shut down countries.

[Anonymous No.55271185]

>>55271083
>They’re not just woke, they’re the original forces behind woke
The fact that people truly believe this will be our undoing. Unless the triangle trade was woke (/s it was not).

[Anonymous No.55271257]

>>55270040
It's definitely coordinated, but midwit managers and underlings don't realize they are being played and think that coming back in is their own idea and that covid wfh was a fun experiment. I think the small companies you speak of also fall into the getting played without realizing it category. But at my large globohomo corp it was very apparent the push was coming from above and also apparent they are doing the slow boil (we're still hiring so they don't want to lose headcount in my case).
>I just didn't go back
>slipped through the cracks, manager is in a different state
>I just didn't get vaccinated either

[Anonymous No.55271261]

>>55270879
Vaxx mandate was a 50/50 proposition. Literally 95.99% of workers are pro-WFH and oppose returning to the office.

[Anonymous No.55271311]

>>55271017
I thought workers in America could be fired at will (in most states) anyway?

[Anonymous No.55271328]

>>55271311
they can, he's just retarded. they can deny unemployment for insubordination. refusing to return to the office is insubordination.

[Anonymous No.55271336]

>>55270177
People will not comprehend how true this is until they see it themselves. CEOs are genuinely cannot for the life of them comprehend doing something unique.
Just look at how every single social media company is constantly copying features from each other. YouTube is the dominant video platform by all metrics but as soon as TikTok comes out suddenly YouTube needs “Shorts”. Once you see it up close it’s terrifying

[Anonymous No.55271407]

>>55270879
You'd have expected that when the freedom to travel and enter places was taken away only to be dangled in front of you in exchange for taking an experimental batch of whatever piss they filled those vaccine flasks with, the people started to rise up and hang kikes on all the visible lamp posts they could found but nah.
The niggercattle bowed and willingly went and waited fucking hours to get the shot.
Only niggers are still capable of riotting, the white man was castrated long long ago.

[sage No.55271416]

>>55269982
>1 post by this ID

[Anonymous No.55271423]

>>55271261
I am just saying, if you are willing to give up bodily autonomy for your employer, you already implicitly gave up everything preceding it and that includes WFH.

[Anonymous No.55271450]

>>55271311
This is true. But that usually opens you up to an unemployment claim.
>>55271328
This is bullshit. There's an appeals process and the company has to prove that the firing was "for cause". Minor insubordination is not that, neither is refusing unreasonable requests. If your company allows WFH out-of-state and then rescinds it, ultimately they have to compensate you somehow, either providing reasonable notice/moving costs or severance (unless you're a chump that lets them walk all over you). Demoralizers can leave.

[Anonymous No.55271485]

>>55271416
you expected a detailed diary or something?

[Anonymous No.55271496]

>>55269982
>wagied
>expected more
Lmao - self employment was the patrician choice

[Anonymous No.55271497]

>>55269982
Good, maybe you stupid faggots will all fuck off and stop making property prices shoot through the roof because you dipshits are paying 3x home value just because you can afford it. Can't wait for all of you guys to go bankrupt and foreclose so I can buy your shit on the cheap.

[Anonymous No.55271501]

>>55269982
Did your company issue a policy to say "From now on, anyone can work from home 100% of the time"? I doubt it, so you were an idiot to assume that was the case when you moved 5 states away. This is your fault.

[Anonymous No.55271694]

cope thread. now back to your desk or get fired.

[Anonymous No.55271711]

>>55271694
>we are le contrarian 4channers we are on the side of big business!

[Anonymous No.55271741]

>>55270040
It IS coordinated. Do you have ANY idea of how many pensions including government pensions and investment funds are involved in renting office space? If office space value plummets because companies realize they don't need all that much space, everyone invested in renting that space will lose their shirt. Which would be a majority of government employees, union workers, and HR people. They aren't going to lose their comfy retirement just because they put all their eggs in one basket. They'll just force everyone else back into wasting time and money on traveling to the office and back and causing more pollution instead.

[Anonymous No.55271767]

>>55269982
Sue. Constructive dismissal. You absolutely have a case, as does anyone else in your situation.

Do not take this boomer bullshit any longer. Fucking sue them. Office life is absolute BULLSHIT and only FUCKING BOOMERS want it back so they can waste fucking time babbling about sports. FUCK THEM

[Anonymous No.55271905]

>>55269982
This for chads. The GWOT ended so all the husbands came home so no more banging his wife and living in his house rent free. Now we will bang the wives of dudes who spend months out of state living in shared spaces one floor below their office and live in their house they cant sell because they locked in .02% rate. Its to keep us from forming death squads.

[Anonymous No.55271966]

>>55270177
>CEOs are genuinely cannot for the life of them comprehend doing something unique.
CEOs try to project an image of roguelike leadership but in reality they are turbonormies absolutely terrified of going against the current trends

[Anonymous No.55272124]

>>55270177
This is exactly how it works.

>Anon we need to implement "digital transformation"
>Ok, let me figure out what the fuck "digital transformation" is
>It's all the shit I wanted to implement years ago but didn't happen because nobody gave a shit
>Create a "digital transformation" group
>All all the stuff I wanted to do
>Everything is now done at light speed so they can talk about it on LinkedIn and other boomer group that just talk buzzwords all day

I fucking hate dealing with those fucking retards. I've got another 40 years of this bullshit to go.

[Anonymous No.55272272]

>>55270374
>got a case of the mondays

[Anonymous No.55272732]

>>55270879
this is a hilariously good point

[Anonymous No.55272804]

>>55271045
hol' up, how is OP the retard here and not you?

If corporations had their entire staff working remotely and hitting record profits, why is there a need to go back to the office? there are only downsides for everyone but a select ((few))

[Anonymous No.55272835]

>>55269982
>> corporate hellhole of america
this shit doesn't happen in western europe.

[Anonymous No.55272882]

>>55271966
the system of selecting CEO, selects for people that arent willing to rock the boat. the meme of the cunning CEO is false and created by business media.

[Anonymous No.55272895]

>>55269982
I seriously have to know why people subject themselves to this.

[Anonymous No.55272921]

>>55272895
We don't even get cubicles anymore.

[Anonymous No.55272936]

>>55270879
the same system that lied about 9/11, Iraq war WMDs, etc also lied about the vax. how could anyone fall for the same shit over and over this many times?

[Anonymous No.55273066]

>>55272895
Unless you support short kings you have no right to quote the Tedster.

[Anonymous No.55273096]

>>55272921
Exactly. We have this stupid fucking open office situation where you hear all of the noises. I work in a huge office full of women, so all I hear is constant yapping from their personal phonecalls.

[Anonymous No.55273120]

>>55273096
That's also a wild observation I've made: before you had to be stealthy about being on your phone, but these days everyone is fucking around doing God knows what.

[Anonymous No.55273150]

>>55273120
It's so weird, too.
I'm the only person who's not constantly staring at a phone.
People of all ages (from Zoomer to Boomer) are always doing the virgin walk with their faces planted in their phone at all times.
They do this in the cafeteria when I'm trying to get my fucking lunch, and it's a huge clusterfuck of NPCs bumping into each other like numper cars.

[Anonymous No.55273159]

>>55269982
was this company google? i work at google and they’ve mandated 3 times a week in the office. fuck those stupid niggers

[Anonymous No.55273405]

>>55269982
why did you wait till the last minute to apply for permanent WFH? wouldnt it have made more sense to first secure permanent WFH and then think about moving 5 states away?

[Anonymous No.55273428]

>>55273159
>Working at FAGMAN
Good morning ser.

[Anonymous No.55273503]

>>55270249
A lot of the American work lifestyle had been created in late 60s, 70s, & 80s.
>9-5
>in office work
>hard work mentality
Some goes back to the Industrial Revolution. Even the idea of Maslow's hierarchy of needs being a pyramid. It was never a pyramid but a circle.

That pyramid design is the result of corporate intervention.

[Anonymous No.55273567]

>>55272895

[Anonymous No.55273977]

>>55270040
Republicans and Lobbyists.

[Anonymous No.55274344]

>>55270530
Lol are you underage? In real world nobody cares about your IQ, how smart you are or how knowledgably you are.
We are all expendable cogs in the machine, and if one cog sticks out (too smart) its better to remove it

[Anonymous No.55274362]

>>55269982
Appeal the unemployment thing. If you have proof you were allowed months ago then you'll win the case easily.

[Jealous No.55274367]

Id say that after making it this far, there's about a 0% chance of taking the bus out of the shit hole. Seems like I got poisoned at that last stop too.

[Anonymous No.55274387]

>>55270448
No? So many companies already tried to outsource and got burned in the past. Indians do poor work and poor communication. When you hire Indians, you are accumulating a debt that will eventually be paid in the destruction of your work that will need to be made up.

[Anonymous No.55274480]

You prioritized your personal life over your working life. There's nothing wrong with that, but don't get offended when companies let you go when you stop playing by their rules.

[Anonymous No.55274509]

>>55273977
Yeah the republicans in New York and California ... want to get rid of wfh
Any more retarded opinions?

[Anonymous No.55274793]

>>55274509
I guess you've missed the fact that republicans are actively working to kill any WFH for the entirety of the government huh? Introducing legislation and committees to bloviate about lazy teleworkers while sucking the cocks of their real estate lobbyists homies. Kys

[Anonymous No.55274894]

>>55274793
Ah yes, California and New York. Known republican strongholds where they can ram through whatever they want and the poor democrats can’t do anything to stop it. What’s it like living in your world?

[Anonymous No.55275078]

>>55270040
hmmm... then the same won't shut up about going green and the environment. like commuting for no reason?

[Anonymous No.55275149]

>>55270249
They want you to reach deadlines quicker and work on new tasks. In person they can shame you for not looking busy

[Anonymous No.55275219]

>>55269982
cool story bro. youre situation applies to 0% of this POS website

[Anonymous No.55275229]

>>55270424
>unashamedly
Why would you care? It’s a company not anything that matters. They will replace if it’s more profitable than keeping you

[Anonymous No.55275230]

>>55274894
Idk why you're deepthroating two states when every state in the nation is reneging on telework, and it's being actively diminished by republican legislators at the federal level. You're a faggot who will continue to vote against your own interests because you're too fucking stupid to admit you don't know what you're talking about.
>MUH muh muh librulz
Again, kys as soon as possible

[Anonymous No.55275255]

>>55270051
I would have this exact problem. All I do when I'm home is fap. Work is the only time I can abstain

[Anonymous No.55275402]

>>55270040
In-office is genuinely better for running a company. Everyone is able to talk to each other and organize. Since you have to look busy, you might as well be busy. It also lets problems get solved organically; e.g., someone whose email isn't working asks their coworker a desk over if they're having trouble with their email and they solve it together. If you were WFH, you would immediately email your boss or an IT person, who would have to communicate with you over email about how to fix it.

I like WFH, but let's be honest. It only makes sense for skilled workers you have a shortage of. Everyone under 35 has been PsyOp'd into thinking anything less than being coddled like Silicon Valley programmers in 2014 is a toxic work environment.

[Anonymous No.55275581]

>>55275402
imagine working around smelly niggers and streetshitters all day as opposed to being in the comfort of your own home

[Anonymous No.55275604]

>>55270040
the fact none of you did any work probably

[Anonymous No.55275609]

it is fucking insane that the redundant 8 hour +unpaid lunch + commute is normalized

all the shills, trolls, and actual zombies advocating for in-office work truly don't understand the misery they're talking about. it's such a waste of life

[Anonymous No.55275644]

>>55275581
Most offices are 90% White. The fact that you're talking about Indians makes me think you're one of the <35 year olds who think everything is tech.

[Anonymous No.55275651]

>>55270374
>fake writing an entire post just so you can use the word conniption

[Anonymous No.55275739]

Am I getting deja vu or did this thread already exist on biz a few months ago?

Anyways, of course the attack on WFH is coordinated. Conveniently for the elite, it directly coincides with the all out assault on crypto by the government. At the same time, massive layoffs at companies are opening the floodgates to ensure ANY form of entrepreneurship is far too saturated to allow any type of success from any startup.

I can't believe how unbelievably over it is for us haven't-made-it-yet-cels.

[Anonymous No.55275754]

>>55270941

and your website sucks too

[Anonymous No.55276821]

>>55270941
literal slave life, talk about dehuamising

[Anonymous No.55276847]

The assault on WFH shows just how fake and ridiculous the "climate change" effort is. By reducing commuting to and from the office you massively cut emissions, no crazy changes in diet and agricultural practises, no forgoing leisure and holidays - just a smarter way of doing business? Forget it goyim and get BACK IN THE CAGE

It all changes and slides for a dollar, it is as simple as that

[Anonymous No.55276861]

>>55269982
Speak to an employment lawyer.

[Anonymous No.55276870]

>>55270879
>if you don't revolt during the vaccine mandates, why get up in arms over returning the office?
Apples and oranges. 70% of the people didn't think the vaccines were the 5G mark of the beast, so they didn't care that it was mandated. Nobody gives a shit if they're "mandated" to do what they already were going to do anyway.

[Anonymous No.55276985]

>>55270998
You made your own golden prison anon

[Anonymous No.55277087]

>>55270176

it's this. the executives all have real estate investments in the cities where the offices are, and they need to ensure they keep going up. This is why the execs are all for it but the middle management is mixed.

[Anonymous No.55277101]

>>55276847
The funny part is that none of the retards buying the bugs and living in the pods and refusing to have kids will see how obvious the sham has become.

[Anonymous No.55277151]

>>55270040
Coordinated, you say?

[Anonymous No.55277158]

>>55275604
Complete horse shit, if anything I was more productive in WFH. Boomers just need us to prop up real estate in their hellscape nigger hives. But I won't comply.
Couldn't be me.

[Anonymous No.55277213]

Quit my project management gig last year and became a bartender when they told me I'm going to have to start coming into the office. Took a massive haircut on income, from 120k to ~85K(majority is tips).

The peace and quiet is worth every fucking penny.

Sure there's the usual bullshit, but nothing comes with me the second I'm out from behind the stick. No zoom calls. No emails. No meetings. Lots of cute girls. Free booze.

Best thing in the world.

[Anonymous No.55277250]

>>55270330
This x2.

[Anonymous No.55277290]

>2021: Millennials are leaving the cities and starting a remote work revolution. And that’s a good thing.
>2023: EvErYbOdY nEeDs To CoMe BaCk To ThE oFfIcE!!!111!11
Just another crushing blow to a middle class staying afloat on credit

[Anonymous No.55277404]

To midwits it looks coordinated. The reality is that the corporations were just all collectively waiting for the job market to take a shit so that employees have less negotiating power. If they did this a year ago, too many of us would have quit.

[Anonymous No.55277437]

>>55276870
The fucking vaccines were rushed i will not fucking use an rna vaccine that can change your dna old vaccines were good enough

[Anonymous No.55277677]

>>55273159
>anon, you HAVE to move back to the HCOL area near the office because.... in-person relationships!
>um no, we are not going to increase your salary to compensate for the tripling of living expenses

[Anonymous No.55277960]

>>55270289
Guy out here projecting

[Anonymous No.55278005]

>>55269982
Similar thing happened to me, RTO mandatory even though I was hired as a remote worker, I would've never accepted the job back then if it was office based. What they did was put me in shitty project to shame me into quitting so they could collect their training bond, what I did instead was go AWOL and I never returned their company equipment, already formatted the thing so I could use it for personal things.

[Anonymous No.55278047]

>>55269982
That’s honestly really fucked up dude

[Anonymous No.55278070]

>>55269982
Get a lawyer stupid

[Anonymous No.55278078]

>>55270040
Jews. Their nigger hives don't function without whites physically present to prop it up.

[Anonymous No.55278130]

The worse part in my end is the commute and the fucking shared cubicles with zero privacy

[Anonymous No.55278140]

>>55275609
This

[Anonymous No.55278266]

>>55269982
I wonder how long it'll take before someone runs the first shadowrun against one of these companies since we're already better than 50% of the way to cyberpunk dystopia anyway.

[Anonymous No.55278889]

>>55270478
>boss asked for donations to kiss up and send his manager out to an expensive baseball game
>he then fired those people not even a month later

[Anonymous No.55279084]

>>55270437

[Anonymous No.55281315]

>>55278130
don’t forget coworkers stopping by your desk every hour

[Anonymous No.55281514]

>>55270330
Yes.

[Anonymous No.55283161]

>>55269982
>>55270040
OP why did you not look for another company?

[Anonymous No.55283178]

>>55269982
Just sue retard, contact an employment attorney. It could be class action since you’re probably not the only one.

[Anonymous No.55283215]

>>55269982
Join /NG/ NEET General frens
>eat spicy chicken tendies
>get liquid hot spicy diarrhea
>call in sick
>play videa and study for GMAT all day
It’s just that EZ bros

[Anonymous No.55283429]

>>55283178
Sue? Under what grounds?
>I got employed at a company and moved 5 states away and then got mad when I got fired for not coming into the office
kek

[Anonymous No.55283459]

>>55269982
>This is how corporations are lowering headcount,
They're not reducing headcount. The heads are now brown

[Anonymous No.55283603]

>>55276847
THIS
why isnt there push back on going back into the office causes more carbon emissions?

[Anonymous No.55283660]

>>55283603
Because its a psyop and a very stupid one

[Anonymous No.55283681]

>>55283603
reverse psychology. they are making a big thing about people coming into the office to force a backlash. then they can save costs and choose from a worldwide recruitment pool

[Anonymous No.55283731]

>>55269982
HR here. I review your complaint and will adress it in future. Now please go back to work

[Anonymous No.55283755]

>>55270040
if the price of commercial real estate goes down, a lot of things will happen that they are trying to prevent. thats all i know, i think loans and stuff are 'backed' by the invlated real estate market, i dont know how the financial system works, i am not a part of it

[Anonymous No.55283773]

>>55270998
lol, I like the cut of your gib sir

[Anonymous No.55283826]

>>55277213
You make almost 100K as a bartender??
Wtf
How is that even possible

[Anonymous No.55283873]

>>55283826
work in a high end restaurant in a major city

[Anonymous No.55283923]

>>55271741
out with the old in with the new, the old companies will be outcompeted by those with a newer approach

over time of course

[Anonymous No.55284112]

>>55269982
kek it's so funny USA is literally a 3rd world country in terms of labor protection laws

[Anonymous No.55284245]

>>55270040
Directors and managers are still overwhelmingly boomers.

[Anonymous No.55284430]

>>55270879
WFH could be seen as a work benefit. We have 60 % WFH and our company wanted to get it down to zero, but most of the senior programmers objected this insinuating that "other companies still had it". We still have 60 % WFH.

If you are a qualified employee, especially a senior programmer, it should be relatively easy for you to find another job with a possibility to work from home.

[Anonymous No.55284546]

>my job
>all the engineers design build and test their own shit
>chill office environment where nobody's staring over your desk or hounding you for bullshit
>meetings only once a week internally or when a customer calls
>coworkers are pretty brotier
>wfh only if you're sick or have some complication

Is it really that bad to be in an office if you like it? You can't really do my job without being present at a site, and I feel at my age (24) it'll make me a more valuable worker to the point where I can eventually negotiate hybrid/wfh positions.

[Anonymous No.55284566]

They tried to bring us back to office at work. But the people at my job are mostly nuts, legitimately insane which is usually a negative but this time our collective mental retardation manifested itself in the form of everyone just basically quietly ignoring the new rule and continuing to work from home. Manager never said anything further because he realized it will be like getting blood from a stone. We are actually the only branch of a multibillion dollar corporation that is still work from home due to this fact.

Btw if you want to understand how legitimately insane the people I work with are, we have a guy who schizoposts in Microsoft Teams about vaccines once every other week but they don’t fire him because he’s the only one in the entire building that knows how to work on some legacy systems we’ve deployed.

[Anonymous No.55284579]

my productivity has remained the same - this is verifiable because we log our completed tasks & hours in a database. My quality of life has risen dramatically. If they ask me to come back into the office after 3 years of working from home, I'll probably just quit and look for something new to do with my skills. Not many have the confidence in their budget or skills to do that however, so I sympathize with the common employee.

[Anonymous No.55284802]

>>55270516
You retarded nigger.

Bring the non amazing ones in. Let the stars stay home. Problem solved.

[Anonymous No.55284875]

>>55284546
No, it’s good that at 24 you’re learning how to do these things in a shared space with the possibility to take your skills and WFH later. Not like you’re some shiteating zoomzoom who gets hired remote right out of college, gets called back into the office and can’t actually do his job. If you like your job then you’re doing better than most as office life can be hell in the wrong places.

[Anonymous No.55284911]

>>55270040
>Who's behind this?

Landlords

[Anonymous No.55285265]

>>55270289
I genuinely hate apologists for office work
>verification not required

[Anonymous No.55285467]

If WFH is completely reinstated then that means they locked us up for three years and threatened us and we have nothing to show for it.

[Anonymous No.55285722]

>>55285467
Do you have this backwards

[Anonymous No.55285923]

>>55270184
I don’t really understand this for small firms where office leases are a massive part of overhead. Wouldn’t they rather just not have to spend anything on that? Bigger firms I understand because they may have investors/owners/etc whose net worth is tied to real estate values in other ways.

I actually do think a big part of it is cultural. Boomers love to actually see the people who work for them. Plus there’s a lot of sad fucks who get all their social interaction from work and/or despise their home life so they go along with it.

[Anonymous No.55285994]

>>55270289
>focused and engaged
My home office is quiet and kept at the temperature I like. My desk is massive and my chair is comfy instead of the basic office ones. I can grab a coffee or take a shit in peace instead of some jackass trying to put off work with small talk or some junior trying to ‘network’ with me. In engineering this is godawful because you’ll have a 22 yo sperg trying to larp like he’s a mad men character.

Unironically I get the same amount of work done in 3-4 hrs at home than I would in 8 in an office. Double my pay and I’ll work for all 8.

[Anonymous No.55286093]

>>55270963
Kek one thing you won’t see when you wfh is how they type- it’s really fascinating. Lots of copy pasting

[Anonymous No.55286147]

>businesses ending remote work en masse
>my shithole allows a ramp to collapse disrupting travel for the entire tri state area at the start of summer
my condolences to you salary slaves

[Anonymous No.55286203]

>>55270176
>>55270184
>>55270330
>>55271741
This. It's not even subtle. Also, countless middle managers are feeling extra useless and have been pushing it out of desperation.

[Anonymous No.55286222]

>>55284546
Not if you like it, and honestly when you’re young you learn a lot faster being physically present with your seniors. There’s also something to be said about making a good impression and getting face time. I obviously love wfh but god damn training the zoomies remotely who’d just gotten out of 1-2 yrs of remote school was a nightmare.

[Anonymous No.55286344]

>>55270448
My company outsourced their entire accounting department to Mexico for zero reason at all. I'd love to see what the cocaine was laced with at that board meeting to think that was a good idea. In any case, this resulted in at least 9 months of invoices NOT BEING PAID.
Compound that with globalized supply stresses because of the covid shutdowns. Bye bye vendors.
I'm not worried at all, in fact.

[Anonymous No.55286370]

>>55284566
That guy sounds based AF are you friends with him in a private channel