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The SEC just rug pulled 98% of the market in the most crystal clear way possible and people a still buying the dip, accumulating and DCA-ing securities like it's Monday.
Sunk cost fallacy doesn't even begin to describe the psychology at play here, it's just unbelievable, a financial horror movie.
In term of scale it is like every fucking disasters that ever happened in crypto (MtGox, BitConnect, FTX, etc) but combined.
If you hold any of these below you are absolutely doomed and you will never recover, all the information is there, what more do you need exactly?
Jesus fucking Christ may god have mercy on your poor soul.
Cryptospace has been the birth place of myriad of new psychological syndromes that will be studied for decades to come.

>The SEC has now declared that these 54 crypto tokens are securities: XRP, Telegram’s Gram (TON), LBRY Credits (LBC), OmiseGo (OMG), DASH, ALGO Naga (NGC), Monolith (TKN), IHT Real Estate (IHT), Power Ledger (POWR), Kromatica (KROM), DFX Finance (DFX), Amp (AMP), Rally (RLY), Rari Governance Token (RGT), DerivaDAO (DDX), XYO Network (XYO), Liechtenstein Cryptoasset Exchange (LCX), Kin (KIN), Salt Lending (SALT), Beaxy Token (BXY), DragonChain (DRGN), Tron (TRX), BitTorrent (BTT), Terra USD (UST), Luna (LUNA), Mirror Protocol (MIR), Mango (MNGO), Ducat (DUCAT), Locke (LOCKE), EthereumMax (EMAX), Hydro (HYDRO), BitConnect (BCC), Meta 1 Coin (META1), Filecoin (FIL), BNB (BNB), Binance USD (BUSD), Solana (SOL), Cardano (ADA), Polygon (MATIC), Cosmos (ATOM), The Sandbox (SAND), Decentraland (MANA), Axie Infinity (AXS), COTI (COTI), Paragon (PRG), AirToken (AIR), Chiliz (CHZ), Flow (FLOW) Internet Computer (ICP), Near (NEAR), Voyager Token (VGX) and Nexo (NEXO).

>In addition, the SEC has deemed 13 Mirror Protocol mAssets are securities.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/sec-labels-61-cryptocurrencies-securities-after-binance-suit

>> No.55253311
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>>55253289
>ctrl F AVAX
>0 results
>ctrl F LINK
>0 results

LINK and AVAX Bros keep winning.

>> No.55253330
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>>55253289
I hold only DoughBeaux and 1uck and don't give a fuck.

>> No.55253361

>>55253289
None of those are Litecoin. All the market can do is transfer value of worthless security shitcoins into LTC now. Buy now before its 10k.

>> No.55253370

>>55253311
Checked, but Link is the only good choice. Drop the roach scam.

>> No.55253381

>>55253370
Was link approved by Hong Kong for legal trading right before the SEC did this? Because LTC was, and its not on the SEC list. Thats why it matters, its untouchable.

>> No.55253384

>>55253311
based also no FTM

>> No.55253399
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>>55253370
Chainlink will only really take off once the Subnets come.
you havent figured this out because you dont know anything about whats going on in crypto or anything about the tech. we also call people like you "Laggards".

>> No.55253402
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>>55253384
Anyone who doesnt think this is just SBFs jew friends going after Binance for putting the final nail in their coffin is deluded. That said, SBFs jew friends cant touch LTC and SBF definitely did not like LTC. He got caught fudding it, he manipulated it down with his exchange and it rocketed as soon as he was taken off the streets.

>> No.55253412

>>55253289
SEC is on the verge of defeat. This is their final attack, before crypto becomes adopted approved and mainstream

>> No.55253422
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>>55253289
ok but right now I am gonna buy the dip tho

>> No.55253437

>>55253289
>Binance USD (BUSD)
lmao

>> No.55253467

>"excuse me, we'd like to register as securities"
>"Okay, sounds good"
>pumpit.jpg

>> No.55253484

>>55253467
wrong. It goes like:
>"excuse me, we'd like to register as securities"
>silence.jpg
>sued by gary two weeks later

>> No.55253510

>>55253289
XRP was not deemed to be a security just yet, only early sales of it, not secondary market and it might just receive the first clarity in this entire market, do not aleep on it, it will be the ONLY asset with clarity from a US court spiting the SEC, why?
Because the SEC made a big mistake going after Ripple who can actually fight back.o

>> No.55253514

>>55253289
>BUSD
Motherfucker.
I was able to cash out 17k from shitcoins into busd. There is no end to this ride, is there?

>> No.55253522

>>55253484
>>55253467
The mistake pro-regulation cryptos made is thinking regulations are about protecting investors, instead of protecting jews from people being successful as investors. You think they made laws where goyim need 500k liquid cash or 2.5 million net worth to be able to buy their own securities just to protect you? Its removing 99.9% of all competition.

>> No.55253534

>>55253370
You're a legit idiot if you dont recognize Avax as a legitimate project which is a genuine, actual, real-life challenger to Eth. There is nothing like it that this market has ever seen. It is chosen.

>> No.55253537

This is so fucking bullish for ROSE.

>> No.55253565

>>55253510
So your most precious wish in life is to own a Ripple Corporation coin?
Just like chainlink bros who dream to become Klaus Schwab network.
What the fuck is wrong with you people, your ideals go against everything crypto stand for.
What are you even fucking doing in this space, why don't you apply for a WEF membership or young leader training camp?

>> No.55253594

>>55253289
>rug pulled 98% of the market
More than 98% of the market are inherently rugpulls to begin with. Only BTC and ETH are legit.

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Wow, look at that massive list of shitcoins.

Based SEC taking out the trash, hopefully all of my /biz/ friends were smart enough to only buy actual cryptocurrencies.

>> No.55253671
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>>55253594
ETH is a russian asset with a million russians heavily invested in it.
It is a prime target in the ongoing war and the US is preparing a very special party for you.
You don't want to be in anything russian and you will soon realize the scale of your mistake.

>> No.55253684

>>55253289
>If you hold any of these below you are absolutely doomed
Why?

>> No.55253688

>>55253671
>Vitalik is Russian, therefore ETH is a Russian asset
70 IQ take

>> No.55253698

>>55253684
Because you were deceived, you thought you had bought a "cryptocurrency" but you actually bought an unregistered security.

>> No.55253701

>>55253399
>anything about the tech
Yes, tech is why the majority of people buy. Last bull market is a perfect example of that. Just look at DOGE and SHIB.
It willl really take off once staking happens. Just wait until subnets. BTC integration will be the catalyst.

>> No.55253714

>>55253289
>The SEC has now declared
Irrelevant because:
1) the US is not the entire world
2) the SEC is unconstitutional, can't "declare" shit, and (((gary gensler))) will get severely slapped by the courts

>> No.55253743

>>55253688
Yes ETH is russian, and because it is russian a lot of russian invested in it.
Therefore it is a prime target for the US to rug pull as much russians as possible in the current war, even at the expense of few US crypto-gamblers.
You will learn the hard way.

>> No.55253748

>>55253698
So what? People repeat the words unregistered security like a mantra but why am I doomed?

>> No.55253775

>>55253381
It was.

>> No.55253786

>>55253748
Securities will be delisted from every exchanges, there will be no way to trade after a certain dead line.
Everyone will be forced to exit their securities position all at the same time with zero buyers.
It will be the biggest blood bath this space has ever known and people will lose everything.

>> No.55253802

>>55253786
>Securities will be delisted from every exchanges
Why?

>> No.55253819

>>55253565
Get off your high-horse maxifag. Globohomo won so you need to adapt.

>> No.55253831

>>55253802
Because that is illegal as we have been warning you for the last 6 years.

>> No.55253843

>>55253786
kucoin will delist them? why? what do they have to gain?

>> No.55253867

>>55253289
This is why I only buy memecoins and other dogshit. Fuck crypto utility. It’s for gambling retards

>> No.55253872

>>55253831
What is illegal? How and in what jurisdiction?

>> No.55253886
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55253886

Urbit is digital land
I Circumcise Penis (Ticker: ICP) is an unregistered security
Kek baggies

>> No.55253888

>>55253831
>Huffs copium
What about LUNC. It's not luna. Does the fork save it some how?

>> No.55253890

>>55253843
>>55253872
Because thanks to extra-territoriality of the dollar and non-US located exchanges having US citizen as customers, the US will be able to fine these exchange into oblivion, even though they aren't located in the US.

Remember how they fucked BTC-e in the ass with a hundred million fine despite BTC-e having absolutely nothing to do with the US?

>> No.55253892

>>55253786
Can't they just register them?

>> No.55253900
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55253900

>>55253311
Based.

>> No.55253923

>>55253361
Based. Boomer. We were right all along. Litecoin is the right coin.

>> No.55253932
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>>55253311
Checked and based

>> No.55253947

>>55253289
it‘s just the US. Kys moshe

>> No.55253951

I only own Chainlink and oasis so I give zero fucks about any of these scams getting shredded tyvm

>> No.55253967

>>55253890
You think USA is going to get all non-American exchanges who offer blockchain tokens that American bureaucrats call unregistered securities taken down and/or their owners arrested, for example?

>> No.55253971

>>55253892
That is exactly the point, Coinbase have been trying to register them for the last 6 years and it never happened.
But Coinbase and others exchanges still sold these securities to their customers knowing they were unregistered securities.
Probably hoping they would be able to do so eventually.
But it never happened, as many "maxis" tried to warned you about for a long long time, so now exchanges are completely trapped and will have to delist.
And even if they are able to register and relist them in couple of years, during that period the unregistered market will be 100% closed and dead, and those who hold these securities will have wiped out.

>> No.55253992

>>55253967
They will face hundred of millions of dollars fine, just like they did with BTC-e.

>> No.55254011

>>55253992
Is XRP classified as an unregistered security by the SEC? If yes, how many non-American exchanges have paid money to the USA for hosting XRP so far?

>> No.55254026

>>55253890
You're an hysterical retard. I just joined whitebit and got kyced in less than 30mins. It gives a long list of countries that you can't be from if you want to register, USA included. This exchange still has a lot of volume. Hmmmm

>> No.55254041

>>55253971
so then good news for all the top ones that arent mentioned

>> No.55254042

>>55254011
The problem with XRP is that XRP is Ripple Corporation and their head quarter is located in San Fransisco, they are fucked.

>> No.55254050

>>55254041
That list is non exhaustive.

>> No.55254055

>>55253330
Based 1uck enjoyer.
Same only own 1 token. The only one that works for a living.

>> No.55254056
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I'm going to be safe running a bitcoin full node as us citizen in America... Right?

>> No.55254058

>>55254042
What's your point? That non-American crypto exchanges base their headquarters in San Francisco?

>> No.55254080

>>55254026
>You're an hysterical retard.
How about you try contacting some former BTC-e costumers before calling me hysterical retard?
>I just joined whitebit and got kyced in less than 30mins. It gives a long list of countries that you can't be from if you want to register, USA included. This exchange still has a lot of volume. Hmmmm
BTC-e had KYC, wasn't located in US, wasn't accepting US citizen and US sanctioned countries, and still go fucked terminally in the ass.

>> No.55254098

>>55254050
well sure he wasnt gonna mention all 10k shitcoins with a 20k usd marketcap
hence why i said the top ones, everything in the top 50 or so that isnt mentioned must be omitted for a reason right

>> No.55254108

>>55254056
Yes Bitcoin and Litecoin aren't securities.

>> No.55254126

>>55254080
got*

>> No.55254153

>>55254098
Some will be treated separately, XRP is already its own case.
ETH for instance will be a separate case as US will attempt to bankrupt a lot of russians.

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>>55253890
> the US will be able to fine these exchange into oblivion
You're a fucking retard. Why would they pay the fines if nobody ever set foot in the US?
US citizens will just buy BTC/ETH on PayPal or other approved exchange, move it to Kucoin or DeFI and use a VPN to trade """securities""".
The US spent billions trying to shut down the pirate bay, and yet the site is still up and I'm still torrenting movies every week. You think a bunch of retarded kike boomers can just decide to shut down crypto? Good luck with that

>> No.55254214

>>55254042
>>55254050
>>55254080
>>55254108
>>55254126
>>55254153
Hey OP. How many non-American exchanges have paid money to the USA for hosting unregistered securities (XRP for example) so far? How many have been shut down? I asked this question here >>55254011 but it seems you tried to change the subject to XRP itself instead of answering the question.

>> No.55254267

>>55253289
The takeaway from this thread is:
- a delisting tsunami is about to happen as exchanges have to delist all securities.
- delisting means exchanges will have to auto-sell your securities with no buyers because there is no market, meaning you are about to lose everything if you don't convert to Bitcoin or Litecoin or cash out before the auto-selling starts or before the panic sets in.
Good luck.

>> No.55254280

xmr
btc
kaspa

>> No.55254282

>>55254267
Wait OP! Don't forget to answer >>55254267 before doing the summary! kek

>> No.55254290

>>55254282
Meant >>55254214 of course

>> No.55254298

>>55254214
There is already a lawsuit against Ripple and they are located in SF so it's not changing the subject it is what it is.
Regarding your question, if you could perhaps reformulate in an intelligible way I will answer.
I genuinely don't know what you are trying to say.

>> No.55254314

>>55254298
Oh sorry maybe your screen glitched or something. The question is: How many non-American exchanges have paid money to the USA for hosting unregistered securities (XRP for example) so far? How many have been shut down?

>> No.55254315

>>55253867
There are real utilities in crypto if you look deeper, some are used for payment, some DeFi tokens allows people to access financial services without the need for a central authority, some like sylo has a messaging app that works exactly like WhatsApp, this is just to name a few.
>>55253951
I hold oasis, Rose and Díá, i don't give a fuck either

>> No.55254344

>>55254194
>You're a fucking retard. Why would they pay the fines if nobody ever set foot in the US?
BTC-e got a 100 millions dollars fine and never set foot in the US.
Search for the term I mentioned above, "extraterritoriality of the US dollar".
Also non-US exchanges accepting just even a few US citizens, even by inadvertence, will automatically opens a breach for US based prosecution.
That what happened to Swiss banks last decade.

>> No.55254388

>>55254314
>non-American exchanges
Non-US exchanges will be targeted by other means as I already explained several times in the thread.
SEC is the first to strike but expect other country regulatory entities to align with SEC and to strike soon as well.
But even before than that, expect non-US exchanges to anticipate and delist every unregistered securities as well.
You just buying yourself some time, but the market for unregistered securities is about to shutdown globally.

>> No.55254390

>>55253522
>Its removing 99.9% of all competition.
checked and good point

>> No.55254409

>>55254388
2 more weeks in other words?

>> No.55254457
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>>55253289
Fuck you I won't do what ya tell me

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>>55254409
Probably few months left, but before that a lot of people are going to finally understand what is happening and anticipate.
I hope you keep that beautiful "nonchalant" attitude of yours when the titanic start to sink even before hitting the iceberg.

Remember these wise words from an old-timer:
>Who panic first panic best.

>> No.55254476

>>55253671
>ETH is a russian asset
I thought it was American because jp Morgan chase seems to come up in relation to eth a lot. First time I'm hearing Russian, lmao

>> No.55254496

Got rich in 2021 and here I am broke as fuck. Is there a fucking airdrop I missed out on recently so I don’t have to sell my body to 80 year old women or swinger couples

>> No.55254500

>>55254108
Bsv will be fine? It's already been delisted

>> No.55254519

>>55254500
BSV if it still exists is not a security

>> No.55254555

>>55254519
Thank you! Any idea why they're rushing to kill crypto now? Seems like the only reason to rush all at once is an expectation that they'll soon need to stop people from leaving the traditional financial system. Otherwise, killing the exchanges one by one over a few years would have the same effect as exchanges would leave rather than continue to take the risk, but there would be a longer window of opportunity for people to convert USD to crypto.

>> No.55254589

>>55254462
Same bro keep it up on your side as well.

>> No.55254688

>>55254555
FedNOW

>> No.55254767

>>55254555
>Any idea why they're rushing to kill crypto now?
It is hard to argue that SEC doesn't have a strong case.
Exchanges sold unregistered securities knowingly for many years, that is why exchanges were attempting to register them in the first place.
So to be fair exchanges did that to themselves, and a shit ton of people warned that this was going to end like that.
The were ignored because people thought all these exchanges know what they are doing selling these things for years.

In the near term:
- Some exchanges will go bankrupt and will be replaced by many new smaller centralized exchanges.
- These smaller exchanges will revert back to only sell old cryptos like Bitcoin, Litecoin and such for a while.
- DEX will take off but strictly in countries were they can operate freely, but will be hard to access for foreign citizens as KYC checks will be strengthened.
- Bitcoin/Litecoin will remain a very convenient way to move money globally in case the recession turns ugly and countries start to implement capital control.

In the long term:
- legislations and regulations will finally be enacted and DeFi will make a come back, but this time probably operated by top banks with a special license and subsidiary entities well separated from retail.

>> No.55254864

>>55253289
>BitConnect (BCC)
They declared a dead ponzi a security? LOL

>> No.55254890

>>55253289
People who are buying the dip on any of the securities listed by the SEC are committing a financial seppuku.
Still quite honorable for you though to bail out those who are exiting.

>> No.55254891

>>55254767
Their strong case relies on both retroactive labeling of tokens as unregistered securities and also ignoring that exchanges attempted to register multiple times.

>> No.55254910

>>55253522
Real and heterosexual. He has his reasons and of course he’s playing his cards close to the chest, but as recent as 2021 he’s said he’s pro crypto. Now he isn’t? The rat smells the cheese and is just trying to wait until the cat is asleep to snatch it. That means in the real world, he’s shaking out the goyim in America as much as possible so he can accumulate via some overseas market where they don’t give a flying fuck what burgers can/can’t do. I can also see this as being one (or many) reasons more burgers are going to take active steps to expatriate. Even if it’s not crypto specifically, it’s a telling sign that freedom is just smoke and mirrors and it’s all about control. There are a few reasons he’s doing what he’s doing:

>they see people starting to slowly escape the rat race and general unwillingness to play the rigged game that is the labor force.

>this is also a means to control this new market they don’t quite have their slimy paws on quite yet. Remember the golden rule: he who has the gold makes the rules.

>> No.55254979

>>55254891
>retroactive labeling of tokens as unregistered securities
There is no "retroactive labeling of tokens".
These were never registered securities in the first place so how could it be a "retroactive labeling"?
It is exchanges fault for moving forward with "proactive labeling" of tokens as non-securities because "muh crypto are new asset", when they obviously were exactly securities.
Many people warned about this and a lot of immature people didn't listen.
What the SEC is doing was 100% going to happen, these entities have quite some inertia and exchange actually took advantages of that.
Lot of immaturity to think it was not going to end that way frankly.

>> No.55255021

>>55254890
type it one more time and i will buy every coin listed above

>> No.55255047

how is EOS not mentioned? it had the biggest fucking ICO ever in the history of ICO. they got over 4 billion fucking dollarinos

>> No.55255057

>>55254979
who the fuck cares idiot? a security doesnt mean jack shit outside of cuckmerica

>> No.55255063
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XMRchads cannot stop winning
Regulators tongue my anus.

>> No.55255065

>>55253289
People can't be saved.
Some threads on biz/twitter/reddit on this topic reminds me of the week before Bitconnect collapse.
Although this time it is actually a billion time worse in term of scale.
It's like tourists looking at the wave of the 2004 tsunami on a thai beach and yelling "Was ist das?" instead of actually getting the fuck out.

>> No.55255096

>>55255057
>who the fuck cares idiot? a security doesnt mean jack shit outside of cuckmerica
If your country has a stock exchange then it knows exactly what a security means.

>> No.55255118

>>55255096
doesnt matter. this only applies to exchanges with americans as clients, or whom are operating out of the USA. the rest of the world goes on without america, while they're stuck with boomer etfs. they'll drive everything crypto related out of states, losing out on the entire industry, while the rich arabs gobble everything up

>> No.55255151

>>55253289
>reeeee crypto only exist in the US, no other country on earth will ever be able to use the future financial system ever again

Please kys fudder scum

>> No.55255164

>>55253522
Checked and this-pilled

>> No.55255308

>>55255118
>>55255151
Are you actually seriously arguing that the mass delisting and the subsequent collapse of the US unregistered security market will somehow magically not affect other countries?
Do you even hear yourself saying these words.
What is coming is worse than all of previous collapses combined.
You people are in a complete mental lock-down, SEC has already told you exactly what is happening.
Some exchanges are already delisting, and not just US one, some are changing ToS for the auto-selling (aka auto-rug) your positions.
Wake the fuck up and convert to Bitcoin/Litecoin/USD before it's too late, it's going to be a blood bath.

>> No.55255341

>>55253289
Literally just a bunch of who coins minus XRP and Cardano. Second, I doubt anyone in Asia gives a fuck what the USs stance is on internet pog trading.

Hey, but tell me again why haven’t they gone after Sam Bankman Fried? That alone should tell you their true colors.

>> No.55255408

>bnb is a security now

That's why it's dumping like shit
I got 4 bnb locked lol

>> No.55255446

>>55255341
>Literally just a bunch of who coins minus XRP and Cardano. Second, I doubt anyone in Asia gives a fuck what the USs stance is on internet pog trading.
Asia will keep buying and selling at the usual prices while US prices go to zero after delisting.
Nothing screams more "contagion is impossible" than a full token collapse in the US.
Seems totally airtight indeed.

>Hey, but tell me again why haven’t they gone after Sam Bankman Fried? That alone should tell you their true colors.
If you know they true color, and can read a SEC press release, then you shouldn't be sitting in anything other than btc, ltc, usd or gold right now.

>> No.55255510

>>55255446
Why not eth?

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>>55253289
>For all the "MUH WHO CARE ABOUT US"
Binance International, located in France, just announced a change in its ToS regarding auto-convertion of a delisted asset to another of their own chosing.
See I just provided all the retards in the thread a concrete example of a non-US based exchange already changing its ToS because of the incoming delisting.

>> No.55255597

>>55255308
>Some exchanges are already delisting, and not just US one
name them then.
oh wait, you cant. fucking jew rat, never selling

>> No.55255614

>>55255510
As I mentioned before, ETH is the most owned coin among the russians.
Therefore it could be prime target for the US military since they can rug pull a maximum amount of russians even if it's at the expense of some non-russian citizens (including US citizens).
So it's too risky to hold while the war is still on-going.

>> No.55255622

>>55255597
>oh wait, you cant. fucking jew rat, never selling
well, i just did >>55255568

>> No.55255655

>>55255622
>Some exchanges are already delisting, and not just US one
where are the delistings? they changed the ToS, nothing about delisting any coin. are you illiterate or what?

>> No.55255682

>>55255622
>31 pbti
this jew really wants us to sell huh

>> No.55255706

>>55255655
>They are changing ToS about auto-convert in case of delisting
>muh it has absolutely nothing to do with delisting itself
ok then, good luck to you.

>> No.55255713

>>55255706
2 more weeks

>> No.55255727

>empty threats
>more empty threats
>32 posts by OP
You aren’t acting in anyone’s best interests, you are just installing fear.

>> No.55255737

>he """invests""" in shitcoins
Don't care. Didn't read. Still buying BTC.

>> No.55255754
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55255754

>>55253289

>> No.55255795
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>>55255446
>"US prices" will be different from "Asia prices"
lol imagine the arbitrage

30+ post OP takes as first principles that because the SEC **claims** a bunch of cryptos are securities in unresolved, ongoing lawsuits, then that claim is instantly correct, legally-binding, and indisputable. The XRP lawsuit has demonstrated that is not necessarily true. Just because the SEC claims something is under its jurisdiction, doesn't mean it is. Did you consider the SEC may LOSE all 3 cases because of a lack of clarity, jurisdiction, and/or fair-notice?

I think the SEC's cryptos-as-securities mania will be short-lived as a new asset class of "digital assets" is formally hashed out in law. In fact, these sweeping money-grabbing claims by the SEC may only hasten the rest of the US government to regulate control of "digital assets" (or w/e they end up being called) AWAY from the SEC and to a more appropriate regulatory body.

>> No.55255802

>>55255682
>>55255727
>this jew really wants us to sell huh
>You aren’t acting in anyone’s best interests, you are just installing fear.
+10 years in crypto trying for the twentieth time to convince people to save themselves while they still can before an impending collapse.
Literally trying to act in everyone best interests, especially if you can be the first to exist instead of waiting for the actual delist to act and get obliterated.
It always the same thing, you guys fall in love with your shitcoins or tokens and never ever fucking listen, despite what's coming being so obvious.

>>55255754
I guess in the short term that's much better options that any tokens, but keep in mind that silver was around $50 in 2011 and didn't perform so well compared to other PMs (or most other asset to be honest).

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55255806

>>55255706
Quit trying to amplify the jew sanctions.
Nobody likes jew sanctions.
They aren't what they used to be.
You'll get what you get from your misshapen egg dick sanctions and that'll be all.
Quit trying to amplify.

>> No.55255811

>>55255802
to exit* (not exist)

>> No.55255816

>>55255802
>t. Langley Airforce base

>> No.55255833

>>55255806
stop wasting time babbling nonsense and read

>> No.55255874

BRICS need to happen soon
Fuck these slimy jews

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>>55254555
>Any idea why they're rushing to kill crypto now?
The financialization of the economy (and the subsequent concentration of wealth) in the post hard money era has been enabled by huge deficit funded socal spending (financed via BRRRRRR). This social spending acts as a supply-side labor subsidy suppressing wages while assets go parabolic from debasement. Crypto is an existential threat to fiat as it can't be manipulated to the level that PMs can be. The fiat grift falls apart with such liquid transparent markets

>> No.55255923

>>55253289
Thanks just bought 100k

>> No.55255928

>>55253951
Based

>> No.55256091

>>55255614
This might be the dumbest fud in this thread. Congrats. Really.

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55256195

>hbar will be endorsed by the sec and the financial sector as the number one blockchain

Amazing feel hbros

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55256234

>>55256091
>This might be the dumbest fud in this thread. Congrats. Really.
he doesn't know

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>> No.55256460

>>55253714
First correct response. The SEC and Gary don’t get to declare things as securities, registered or unregistered. They get to enforce clear framework regulation, for which we have none in this space. They are not within their rights to declare or create one. That is Congress’ job.

>> No.55256484

>>55253289
Gary Gensler looks like the absolute corrupt clown he is and will get his bussy stretched in court.

>> No.55256601

>>55253330
even if there is another bull, i don't think we'll see ATH again

>> No.55256992

OP answer 3 questions for us. This will help the legitimacy of your cause. Please be honest:

Did you get the covid vaccine?
Who really won the 2020 US presidential election?
Who's at fault in the Russia/Ukraine war?

>> No.55257006

>>55253514
When usdt and usdc is deemed a security the fun really starts. Kraken already has major volume on usdt fiat pairs that are only beaten by usdt btc volume

>> No.55257199

You niggers need to chill, jews are just trying to shake you out of your internet money.

>> No.55257207

>>55253289
you are missing chainlink

>> No.55257213

>>55257199
Alts are toast when the rug is pulled. 500 billion capitulating into fiat and btc

>> No.55257233

>>55253289
it's normgroid genocide
and it's beautiful

>> No.55257386

>>55256992
>no
>the jews
>the same jews

>> No.55257676

>>55253289
XRP is gonna get clarity on Tuesday

>> No.55258037

>>55255897
your pic is the most bottom text boomer take i've ever seen. you must love tucker and other gatekeeping conservatard kosher media. a unified and organized white political movement would threaten the current jewish stranglehold on all sectors
>muh class war disguised as race war
>they're trying to divide us by race
>dems are the real racists
jewish collectivism has been able to not only thrive but dominate every institution because of their in-group preference. it's so obvious it hurts when you boomer's just totally miss this purposely or from plain ignorance. get a clue.
collectivism will always win against individualism, and in particular- racial collectivism.
>citation:
all of history

>> No.55258069

>>55253361
Based. I’ve been slurping LTC lately. It’s a comfy hold. It’s utility will be recognized when Bitcoin transactions fail as the network becomes more bloated and clogged and expensive.

>> No.55258078

>>55253289
Nothingburger FUD. Will keep slurping digital assets, Shitcoins, NFT’s whatever the fuck I want, and will be filthy rich in a few years

>> No.55258319

>>55253289
When retards later start crying all over the internet and play the victim, remember then that they were buying massive bags of unregistered securities AFTER the SEC just told them clear as day that their tokens will be delisted.

>> No.55258329

>>55258319
why are you responding to yourself

>> No.55258331

>>55253289
Why the FUCK is ICP on this list?

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>>55258329
I am not responding to myself, I am "retroactively labeling" (>>55254891) my thread.

>> No.55258419

>>55253289
More realistically you are actually just a midwit. If you have a high conviction actually rational trade you are happy for the discount. I have been hoping and waiting for the Tether dump for years. Learn to be less confident in your own analysis when you are this not smart

>> No.55258475

>>55253289
Shit's getting real scary, man. That's why I've shifted most of my tokens over to self-custody wallets particularly Sylo's dual-purposed app. It's time to embrace full decentralization, if you ask me. Too much damn regulation ain't gonna solve a damn thing. Fucking hell, it's intense!

>> No.55258505

>>55258419
>own analysis
reading the SEC press release is not an analysis or a prediction, jfc.

>> No.55258567

>>55253671
Vitalik has not been in Russia for some years he even twitted pro Ukraine shit at the start of the war I don't think he will move to Russia any time soon.

>> No.55258570

>>55253311
Kek! I gotta admit, that's some hilarious shit right there, man. It's a relief to know that despite this brutal market, my holdings are still kicking and secure. Plus, with Apple jumping into the AR tech game, I'm bullish on holoride, one of my favorite holding gets ball deep in the metaverse ecosystem .

>> No.55258580

>>55253361
Despite all of these, I just grabbed more Ride and Qwt tokens. We're all in this fucking space to make some damn profit, and you gotta play safe with all of that ngl.

>> No.55258587

>>55256992
Great strategy, well OP?

>> No.55258588

>>55256234
>Vitalik blablabla...
You missed the point, nobody care about Vitalik or his stance on Ukraine.
As I already explained here >>55256234 the most owned crypto among russians is ETH and therefore is a prime target for the US.
Ignore that fact at your own peril!

>> No.55258595

>>55258588 for >>55258567

>> No.55258598

>>55254767
Imagine believing this, the eu is already in a recession with record stagflation, stablecoin demand for currency is their only path out.

Your policies are stagflationary and at a time of war at the moment i may add.

>> No.55258602

>>55258587
>>>>55257386

>> No.55258608

>>55255614
ETH is the ecosystem us based stablecoins are bypassing capital controls put by us enemies, it literally is increasing usd demand, eth marketcap relative to usd stables on it is ridiculous it has a 210b marketcap but almost 120b on stablecoins in usd in top of it.

>> No.55258611

>>55256234
The russians that own crypto are the ones that will do shit like avoid the draft by moving dumb fuck.

They own crypto because monke likes capital controls, like venezuela, argentina or any country controlled by anti usa retards.

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>>55253289
>arb

>> No.55258619

>>55258611
>The russians that own crypto are the ones that will do shit like avoid the draft by moving dumb fuck.
This is radiating tchernobyl level of cope.

>> No.55258638

>>55254767
>KYC checks
>immutable DEX smart contract

are you fucking retarded?

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>>55258619
No moron, how do you think glowies move capital these days?

Last rational thing they would want to do is to make capital controls easier on their enemies, imagien if china lift capital controls, would the capital flow into china or outside it?

The answer is outside, this is the same for every despotic shithole, last thing any rational leader will want to do is make capital controls easier for their enemy.

The russians owning crypto are the westernized ones that don't trust the russian system, same in venezuela, argentina, india, china or nigeria.

I don't think you understand how critical crypto has become to keep civilization alive, look at Nigeria it's one big market for us leo internet from starllink.

But the price musk company shows to nigeria is fake due to capital controls, so nigerians just buy crypto top up a debit card and pay for starlink.

The entire world outside the anglosphere and the eu is like that, full of capital controls and retarded regulations.

Russian oligarchs, higher middle class and freelancers moving their wealth to usd stablecoins or ethereum is way better for the usa than destroying eth and forcing them into giving liquidity to the russian banking system.

On top of that if they do what you are saying they will do, they will create an eurodollar on steroids as some faggot or nation state forks DAI into using staked ETH as collateral.

It will literally remove enforcing power from the usa not increase it as you are saying.

>> No.55258649

This is good for BTC

>> No.55258659

>>55254080
Btc-e laundered money from criminals, it's not the same at all.

>> No.55258670

They just want to buy low.. They need to make all this legal drama, because its getting harder and harder to crash the market, for a slurp. In 3 months you will laugh at this thread

>> No.55258680

>>55258638
Whenever fiat is involved there will be a bank and so KYC will be mandatory.
What differentiates DEX from CEX is how things are implemented at the software level.
Unless you talking about DEX without any sort fiat involved, that trades only shitcoins and shitokens but then why even bring KYC to the discussion? it's nonsensical.

>> No.55258686

>>55254767
>dex
>kyc
Get a hold of this retard. You're aware that it's perfectly legal to have an unregistered security right? You're aware that all foreign securities that aren't registered with the sec are unregistered securities right?

>> No.55258687

>>55258659
>Btc-e laundered money from criminals, it's not the same at all.
There is not a single exchange in the world that couldn't be prosecuted for money laundering.

>> No.55258691

>>55254462
i'm shitting my pants and i'm only in 25k

>> No.55258697

>>55258686
>You're aware that it's perfectly legal to have an unregistered security right?
Absolutely you can keep holding it as long as you wish, it will still have a great sentimental value after getting delisted from every exchanges.

>> No.55258703

>>55255614
>muh russians
Topkek

>> No.55258706

>>55258703
>>>>55256234

>> No.55258727

>>55258697
The point is the more they try to kill crypto, the more I'm bullish on anything truly decentralized. They will never be able to control crypto, all over the world. I'm not selling anything now, it's too low and if it goes lower I'll buy more good cryptos that allow to escape gov control

>> No.55258746

>>55258697
They will still be traded on non-american exchanges and dexes. Gl shutting them down

>> No.55258766

>>55258727
>escape gov control
fucking kek
you lobertarian btcmaxis are fucking jokes
>you can't point a gun at a mathematical equation
no but you can point a gun at that mathematican and make him pay taxes

>> No.55258848

>>55258727
>if it goes lower I'll buy
Literally the left guy in thread thumbnail.
Jesus fucking christ.

>> No.55258890

>>55258848
Are you saying crypto is over for real this time? This times it's totally different right?

>> No.55258905

>>55253289
Your house is a security.
Investment of money: check.
Common enterprise: society, check.
Expectation of profit: like every home buyer in the last 5 decades or so, check.
Efforts of others: government, municipality, contractors, etc. all pump the value, check.

Conclusion: register with the SEC you Americanski

>> No.55258961

>>55258890
For crypto no, for tokens yes.

>> No.55258983
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>>55258961
cope.
you're just another it's over this time midwit
To avoid looking like a total retard, you're giving btc and ltc a pass.
What is the us going to do? invade and bomb every country favoring crypto?
They have bigger worries on their plate.
This is the last round of crypto attacks before they finally give up

>> No.55259009

>>55253565
Chainlink is a compromise between the old guard and the new anon
This is the way

>> No.55259015

Did they fuck me up while I was sitting out there?

>> No.55259034

>>55258642
>The russians owning crypto are the westernized ones that don't trust the russian system
In a middle of war by proxy do you seriously think USA gives a flying fuck about the good or bad russians eth holders?
ETH is a prime target for US, acknowledge it and accept the risk you are taking if you hold it.

>> No.55259049

>>55253361
Litecoin is comfy now.

>> No.55259089

>>55258983
The SEC just made a press release stating that these tokens are about it be delisted from every exchanges.
What do they need to do for degenerate gamblers to finally understand what they mean by that.
They might have to resort to Miku Hatsune reading the statement.

>> No.55259095

>>55259089
you do realize, the world has 8 billions population, usa is a declining power and only around 350 millions people live under its juridiction?
you do realize there are other currencies that the usd? (which is declining too?)
You do realize all this? because it seems like you think the usa is some world central government who controls every thing?
people will keep selling their cryptos for whatever they want

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>>55259034
yes and that's totally going to work like crashing the ruble

>> No.55259125

>>55259095
>you do realize, the world has 8 billions population, usa is a declining power and only around 350 millions people live under its juridiction?
What is the extraterritoriality of the US dollar?
What is FATCA? What is NATO?
What are all these military bases for?

>You do realize all this? because it seems like you think the usa is some world central government who controls every thing?
What will come first, the great token delisting that SEC just announced or US losing it's reserve currency status?
Wow that's a hard one.

>> No.55259131

>>55253289
Which means Binance and Coinbase will probably collapse soon too.

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>>55259125
>i'm sorry, you must delist p3p3 coin otherwise we will bomb and invade you
kek fuddies
Just slurped some algo. i'll keep buying low and selling high sorry jews

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55259192

>>55256234
>chugs foreskins

32% of 14 million is 4 million. So you are trying to say almost half of eth users are in Russia. LO fUckin L

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>>55256234
Now that you've been exposed as snivelling shill rat, what will you say?

>> No.55259209

>>55259192
Are you disabled?
32% of russians who old crypto hold ETH.
ETH is the most owned crypto among russians. Can you at least fucking read before blindly replying? ffs

>> No.55259216

>>55253361
The right coin for a wash trading scam dev

>> No.55259218

>>55259200
>what will you say?
learn to read, is what i'm saying

>> No.55259226

>>55259209
old=own

>> No.55259267

>>55259216
>The right coin for a wash trading scam dev
Ten years ago a dude at coinbase used a bot for few weeks, got caught, and payed a hefty fine for it.
Today 22k scam coins and scam tokens are being pumped through wash trades everyday but this failed manipulation from 10 years ago is still renting free in your head.

>> No.55259326

>>55259267
Shitcoins are shitcoins. Dead to all shitcoins and their cexes

>> No.55259332

>>55253289
Why the fuck is everyone using the word sigma suddenly

>> No.55259339

>>55259267
Bro please! It only STARTED as a wash trading scam! L-look at all these other shitcoins!! Bro just buy MY shitcoin bro please!!

>> No.55259404

>>55259332
Nobody does you failing nlp amateurs. It is one indicator that op needs to kill himself when he leaves the office

>> No.55259440

>>55259209
>32% is greater than 50%
Ok. Keep going.

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>>55259118
Are you still living in 2022? RUB is getting rekt.

>> No.55259513

>>55253311
Checked

>> No.55259546

>>55254267
What about BitcoinCash (BCH)?

>> No.55259548

>>55259440
Maybe you should read your own posts. You don't seem to since you are furiously replying like a tazmanian devil at the keyboard because you care oh so much about all the 80iq retards here. There are only 14mm ethereum users WORLDWIDE as of Feb 2023. You're trying to say 4 million are in Russia and the amount they own is more than peanuts which is what the average Russian has available to put in high risk assets.

>> No.55259609

>>55259172
>>55258727
>>55259118
>>55259125
Sounds based, but OK.

>> No.55259625

>>55253289
I declare SEC to be jewish security

>> No.55259638

>>55254910
jew was pro crypto until kikes got kicked out of it

JUDEA DECLARES WAR ON CRYPTO

>> No.55259785

>>55253565
Im just trying to do unto others as was done unto me. My whole life I was used as a slave and thrown the scraps. My whole life everyone I ever knew saw me as expendable. Boomers invented health insurance as a way to hoard the medical industry all to themselves. Then they came up with "investment properties" as a way to hoard all the future generations wealth to themselves. Everybody is set out to stab each other in the back and Im just the last guy in line. There's nobody infront of me to stab, just a pile of XRP. Im ready to pick it up, turn around, and watch all these cocksuckers fall to their knees. If the jew gets me rich, fuck it. Im tired of people I thought were supposed to be my allies not atleast joining me in the public discussion. Theyd rather call me a bigot and a misogynist and a nazi. I had the solutions 10 years ago but nobody even wanted t9 have the conversation until the situation was spiraling out of control. Fuck em. I was a slave to people who didnt ask nicely, they just took what they wanted. I tried to wake people to the evil of the cop, who turned the other way, to chase down someone who was late for work, to take the bread off his table. My life has been all work and no play (videogames do not count as play, it just occupies my mind because I cant afford to go out and have fun) since I was a small child. Im ready to start living my life the way these fucking landlord boomers do. I dont care if its not fair to the guy who comes after me, nobody ever gave a shit about things being fair for me, and thats how you have to look at it. Im a journeyman electrician I shouldnt be living in a moldy fucking duplex with a roomate. I work way too fucking hard to not be able to afford a nice home. Thats why I buy XRP. Because someday I will have a home. And Im gonna ride a jet ski too. And none of you motherfuckers are going to stop me.

>> No.55259797 [DELETED] 

>>55259785
You need to kys and never post again

>> No.55259834

Monero is safe, then?
Cause I'm not even thinking about investing on it. I just want to buy shit with it.

>> No.55259835

>>55259797
Im going to escape the rat race and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Cry harder faggot.

Verification not required.

>> No.55259910

>>55259785
Absolutely delusional. Seek help.

>> No.55259925

>>55259546
Same as BSV, if it sill exists, it's not a security.

>> No.55259955

>>55259834
Monero and Zcash are not a securities and but have been already delisted because of their nature.

>> No.55259965

>>55259332
I see you are one of these Metal Gear Solid "Triangle" people.

>> No.55259973

>>55259785
Not healthy to have all your hopes riding on XRP. It could make you rich, but it's a longshot.

>> No.55259986

>>55259034
If they do what you are suggesting they will create a new eurodollar system which will unironically end dollar dominance by being more free than the one regulated and "safe".

>> No.55259992

>>55259172
>chooses Algo
do you hate money

>> No.55260015

Mir was airdropped. Dont kniw many "securities" that were given away free

>> No.55260174

>>55259125
>What will come first, the great token delisting that SEC just announced or US losing it's reserve currency status?
They'll happen at roughly the same time. All this shit has been true for years, if they take down one then the others will experience a chilling effect. There's literally no benefit from an all-out blitz except to trap Americans in USD, which means they expect people to imminently flee the USD.

Did you notice they're not just going after unregistered securities but also pressuring banks to stop dealing with crypto companies at all?

They're not telling banks "Bitcoin is fine because it's not a security, go ahead and do business with bitcoin-only companies."

Banks aren't telling customers that they'd be happy to support transfers to bitcoin-only companies.

Banks aren't telling client companies that they'll be fine if they only handle Bitcoin.

It's a movement that is simply not consistent with an attack on unregistered securities. The only consistent theme is anti-crypto as a whole, by any means for an which an excuse can plausibly be made.

>> No.55260204

i don't even hold any of these shitcoins, but i'm always surprised zoomzooms like opee are so mindwashed, merely witnessing simple opposition to the government completely turns their world upside down

>> No.55260317

>>55259925
Thanks anon. I already cashed a lot off Binance to Advcash but I can’t just transfer all to bank just yet. Do you think services like Advcash could collapse too? I know they are a Russian company so…

>> No.55260343

>>55253311
Based

>> No.55260382

>>55256234
You lost the plot here with the muh Russia shit, you fucking boomer. Gonna keep holding FIL.
Also this:>>55255795

>> No.55260414

>>55259548
>You're trying to say 4 million are in Russia
nope, again, learn to read

>> No.55260428

>>55259095
> the usa is some world central government who controls every thing?
Tired of coping euromutts making the muh who cares about america argument.. it’s the head of the snake, head of s global empire….

>> No.55260573

>>55258588
I never expected that angle to be used, i figured the hinman emails would throw ETH into turmoil. Regardless this has all been predicted, pascals wager yada yada etc etc.

>> No.55260640

>>55258615
this.
gary is afraid of a fellow democrat (Ed Felten) who's probably smarter than him :)

>> No.55260653

most shitcoins (which includes a lot of stuff people here consider cornerstones of their portfolio, such as xrp and bnb) are going to effectively zero, sooner than people think
bitcoin will likely go below 10k, and we'll have to see what happens then
the effect of reduced liquidity can't be underestimated
look at the effect gov stimmies and lockdowns had, that was all happening via exchanges
a tightening economy and exchanges dropping these tokens is an absolute death knell

>> No.55260674

>>55253311
avax is not based in burgerland

>> No.55260855

>>55253289
Dude this shit is now priced in the usa is not the world and its a lawsuit not more

>> No.55260873

>>55253671
>muh russian
You are a jew areant you?
Now fuck off until there is a real desicion by court

>> No.55260880

>>55259209
Kys you retard what has that to do with anything

>> No.55260889

>>55259332
>Why the fuck is everyone using the word sigma suddenly
cause it's the statistics symbol of the end of all fuck

>> No.55260920

>>55259332
because fuck betas and thetas

>> No.55260940

>>55260674
yes it is, Ava Labs is in NYC. Emin sits right at Wallstreet and is advisor for the CFTC for everything Crypto.
Nigger.

>> No.55261062

>>55259209
No fucking faking ETH. I have DCAed into it and it is my biggest holding followed by NXRA and CTSI.

>> No.55261105

>>55260855
>Dude this shit is now priced in the usa is not the world and its a lawsuit not more
It hasn't even started yet.

>> No.55261240

>>55253289
Fuck the SEC, this is the beginning of their defeat.

>> No.55262330

>>55261240
They can keep suing all the fucking CEX I'll keep my funds on DeFi. SpoolFI and Compound will do the work for now.