/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.54517478]

>Study for a masters degree in econ
>Realize all the world’s economic problems could be solved with open borders
Anyone else?

[Anonymous No.54517491]

How is freshman year going for you Kyle?

[Anonymous No.54517498]

>>54517478
1st year poli sci thoughts.

[Anonymous No.54517502]

>>54517478
I had the same thoughts anon. Here's the thing you learn later in life. The optimal efficiency you receive from a perfectly competitive markets (globalized and unrestricted), actually makes people really miserable, despite all the bullshit you get fed you about life expectancy and better health etc.

[Anonymous No.54517544]

It’s not that simple retard. You’d have to deal with the negative externalities of 3 Billion niggers, spics, indians, and chinks moving in OVERNIGHT. We have a housing shortage as it is. You’d have to preplan for something like that similar to how China is doing with building tens of millions of empty apartment buildings and houses, but that’s only step 1. NYC is currently the only place in the US capable of living without a car. The infrastructure and Public transportation everywhere else is not equipped to handle something like that. You’d also have to deal with the massive increase in crime from the third world niggers and spics

TLDR; OP is a retard and something like this would end up causing a race war and impoverishing everybody

[Anonymous No.54517610]

>>54517544
OP you can also look at places like Dubai and Canada as similar case studies. It’s incredibly easy to immigrate to each country and they’re not nearly capable of building up the infrastructure and housing quick enough to accommodate. It ends up making everybody poorer and worse off than places with a properly regulated border and immigration system

[Anonymous No.54517621]

When everyone is remote there isn't a point for open borders. Sanjesh can work for my company in India. He can also stay there, so we don't have to suffer his smell in the office

[Anonymous No.54517632]

>>54517478
Only if you abolish welfare, pensions and all that stupid bullshit first

[Anonymous No.54517818]

>>54517502
Not true. It gives people what they want and then they get upset because their lives are quite literally TOO good, but they’re too lazy to leave society and do their own thing. Like a spoiled kid who needs a beating.
>>54517544
>M-MUH 3 BILLION NIGGERS!!!
Can be used as a lower workforce. Just regulate the housing market as well to allow anyone to live wherever and however they want to solve house problem. Have a problem with “>muh chinks”? Just move somewhere else. It’ll be easier when you have access to literally every resource in the world. This all will work hand and hand with online worldwide schooling. It will be a small adjustment, but I’ll work out once the concept of culture is finally destroyed.
>>>54517610
Those places don’t do it properly. They aren’t open borders
>>54517632
You don’t have to give immigrants immediately welfare. Try again.

[Anonymous No.54517824]

>>54517478
A.) No it can't and you're just baiting and
B.) I don't care about the world's economic problems. I only care about my economic situation and the prosperity of my country. In fact, the poorer everyone else is outside the USA, the better for us. Wealth disparity is what allows me to buy a new car for a month's wages.

[Anonymous No.54517826]

>>54517478
George soros, that you? Gd it, die already!

[Anonymous No.54517869]

>>54517478
Internet literally lets you work with software engineers anywhere in the world and it's still one of the most disproportionately paid positions

[Anonymous No.54517926]

>>54517818
You’re terribly mistaken. You can bet your ass every nigger on Earth would try to come to the US as quickly as possible. The average IQ in Africa is only 70, meaning half the population is less intelligent than that (mental retardation). Billions of illiterate retarded niggers is NOT going to benefit anybody in the US. These people are not intelligent enough to properly work a cash register.

Also, Dubai is about as open borders as you can possibly get. There are shitloads of construction workers building skyscrapers and other apartments daily and yet they still can’t build enough housing fast enough to accommodate all the immigrants.

Sorry OP but your professor is a commie shilling moron. Open borders is just not feasible.

[Anonymous No.54517971]

>>54517502
Well said

[Anonymous No.54517997]

>>54517478
Imagine thinking economic growth supersedes every other aspect of quality of life. I'd rather have a lower GDP if that means not being inundated by shitskins and globohomo faggotry that encourages children to become trannies.

[Anonymous No.54518000]

>>54517478
So you've paid for an education and become a fool. Good use of funds and time there anon

[Anonymous No.54518009]

>>54517478
before you form a solid conclusion, anon, have a look at how the schengen area is doing for the EU.

[Anonymous No.54518028]

>>54517478
>naive bullshit progressive professors have you believing
Oh you sweet summer child, just dont let them chop off your dick okay?

[Anonymous No.54518048]

>>54517818
Open-borders is not as much of a romantic utopia as you think when 7.4 billion people in the world are either chinks, pajeets, or niggers.

Open borders melting pot with members from various functioning and high-achieving societies might work and that's essentially what the USA is, being comprised of Europeans from widely different regions. Not saying all niggers, chinks, and pajeets are low-IQ retards but a good portion of them are and it doesn't seem like anybody is interested in coming up with an intensive vetting procedure.

[Anonymous No.54518063]

>>54517478
>What are economic constraints
>What are human capital constraints
This nigger only heard “le ebin open borders good” and discarded the fact of constraints and specialization for countries.

Not to mention the fact that capital is extremely hard to move in the short term and cost of capital.

>t. Econ Student aswell

[Anonymous No.54518066]

>>54517478
Oh you poor, naive retard...

[Anonymous No.54518086]

>>54517818
>This all will work hand and hand with online worldwide schooling.
Nice, you solved the school shooting problem. If they cant have guns at school then at least the parents can have guns in their homes where their child is learning.

[Anonymous No.54518218]

>>54517926
You’re actually retarded. You think the planet needs everyone to be 600 IQ gigabrains, but in reality it works out over time because those immigrants will be doing lower jobs until they can actually make it. Not to mention it works out because there is overall more resources at a cheaper cost in an open border system as it’s both people AND resources that would traveling frequently. Also also if you have a problem, you can move yourself much easier.

Keep coping tho. My professors are based neolibs and centrists.
>>54518048
Why are you so obsessed with race? You literally go insane whenever your not around people who are exactly like you. You’re enslaved to your own country and have been indoctrinated by its own propaganda. Stop missing out on the wonderful world because of your hatred towards people and start leaning how to work with them for mutual benefits

[Anonymous No.54518223]

>>54517818
>actually makes people really miserable
>It gives people what they want and then they get upset because their lives are quite literally TOO good, but they’re too lazy to leave society and do their own thing. Like a spoiled kid who needs a beating.

we are saying the same thing you flaming retard

[Anonymous No.54518235]

>>54518218
>ID: kKK

seriously tho, what are you... 19? ... 20?

[Anonymous No.54518247]

>>54518223
People aren’t actually “miserable”. They’re just spoiled by objective success.

[Anonymous No.54518286]

>>54517818
The sewer systems can't handle the load
Poopy in the streets
Black death incoming

>>54517997
Capitalism depends on constant growth ?

>>54518218
The sewer system can't handle the load
Tell your econ text book to jump in a fire.
Poopy in the streets = Black Death

[Anonymous No.54518300]

>>54518286
More excuses. Just hire some of these “TEN GORILLION NIGGERS” to deal with the sewer problem.

[Anonymous No.54518476]

>>54517478
I think that open borders would probably make my economic problems worse

[Anonymous No.54518500]

>it's a 'retard thinks shitskins are fully capable humans' thread
Getting sick of these reruns

[Anonymous No.54518513]

>>54517478
Jesus Christ post nose now

[Anonymous No.54520142]

>Ku Klux Klan ID
Uh huh. Yeah. Well I wish you luck infiltrating think tanks, close the borders for your frens on /biz/ please.

[Anonymous No.54520169]

How's it feel losing everything you own?

[Anonymous No.54520254]

>>54517478
Oh yeah? How does it stop your wife or daughter from being raped and beheaded by a pack of north African niggers?
You might be educated, but you are, and always will be a low IQ pleb.

[Anonymous No.54520546]

>>54518218
>You literally go insane whenever your not around people who are exactly like you. You’re enslaved to your own country and have been indoctrinated by its own propaganda.
You clearly have not been to the third world, otherwise you would realise they are animals and should all be exterminated for the good of humanity and the earth in general.

[Anonymous No.54520583]

>>54517478
Your theory has the same flaw as ayn rands optimistic objectivism. Niggers and degens will ruin things with drugs and violence.

[Anonymous No.54520641]

Redpill time

[Anonymous No.54520730]

[Anonymous No.54520821]

Op discovered socialism. Congrats marxist.

[Anonymous No.54520894]

>>54517478
Why not just move to Canada?

[Anonymous No.54520897]

>>54517478
>go to university
>get brainwashed
Congratulation on that seriously

[Anonymous No.54520907]

>>54517818

[Anonymous No.54520940]

>>54517478
It would be ideal but only as a privilege for those who are intellectually capable enough or have the appropriate amount of funds to be able to pay for basic living expenses and start a new life in the desired country. It would create a new class of passport chads who can reside in any country they want and they’d be able to dominate the global markets. It would encourage people to get their shit together to escape their countries too, however of course they’d need the brains and or money to be admitted. As for the intellectual capability remark, I think this could be solved with a third party exam kind of like the SATs but there would have to be various providers of this exam so that this doesn’t get corrupted and they’d have to be extensively monitored and properly assessed. After they move to the desired country if the government is paranoid about certain Individuals they can just track them via their cellphones.

[Anonymous No.54520983]

>Study for a hyper-PhD in Quantum Reality Engineering
>Realize all the world’s problems could be solved by mercing every psychopath
Anyone else?

[Anonymous No.54520991]

>>54517478
look up indoctrination

[Anonymous No.54521103]

>>54517478
Yet open borders means importing worthless retards from Africa. It never means importing Filipinos or Polish people, people that actually work

[Anonymous No.54521232]

>>54518218
You must be killed for the sake of the world.
Lolbertarians are fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.54521332]

>>54520983
I agree. Put a good method of screening for psychopathy forwards and I'll support it.

[Anonymous No.54521723]

>>54517478
You could solve all the economic problems by nuking New York and Israel

[Anonymous No.54521752]

>>54521103
>Filipinos
>people that actually work

Pick one

[Anonymous No.54522311]

>>54518218
>overall more resources
Why do you think that every resource scales with population? Would the amount of water and land increase by importing 5 billion africans?

[Anonymous No.54522325]

>>54517478
Open borders? Funny way of spelling holocaust

[Anonymous No.54522479]

>>54517478
Makes sense, thats why all these economists are bumbling retards

[Anonymous No.54522548]

>>54517997
>globohomo faggotry that encourages children to become trannies.
if children end up becoming tranny because of propaganda, they are weak and inferior to the rest of the population

[Anonymous No.54522575]

>>54517544
You aren't accounting for

1. competitive wage prices that propel the building market forward at infinite speeds.

2. equality lowers crime.

[Anonymous No.54522617]

>>54522575
>2. equality lowers crime.
Not when everyone is equally impoverished. Crime is rampant among the homeless. Retard.

[Anonymous No.54522624]

>>54517818
This ignores the fact that our education system stifles creativity and the result is a lot of complacent looking individuals who were born for something much greater. Their frustration comes from the energy they do not know how to focus.

Even if you disagree with the premise, the concept itself suggests that there are other variables at play rather than just happy, sad, consumerism, etc.

[Anonymous No.54522640]

>>54517926
Why would they flock to America? people just want to leave their war torn location, they don't care where they end up. You don't actually have anything special to offer and drastically less so when the borders dissolve.

[Anonymous No.54522661]

>>54518218
you either segregate yourself at the country's border or at your gated community. you would end up with a few mega rich cities surrounded by favelas and poorfags ready to mug and kill you like in brazil

[Anonymous No.54522683]

>>54522617
Your response lacks a complex understanding of economics. Which homeless? where? in what environment? what are the local resources? what is there to steal?

Lets assume you are talking about pre-medievil times, everyone is suffering. King just died and nobody took over, the gold simply dissapeared. Why wouldn't the "homeless" take shelter wherever and start working as a community to grow food?

Before money was introduced, thats what we did. We collected resources and shared them. There is no reason to believe it would be any different if you dissolved the borders.

There would be some turmoil for sure, but that's how evolution shakes itself off from a period of predators.

[Anonymous No.54523207]

>>54522683
>Before money was introduced
we lived in small tribes back then when there was enough resources for everybody. wouldn't work today

[Anonymous No.54523230]

>>54517478
This is such an basic idea to the world. It assumes every country wants to operate at a comparative advantage and reap gains from trade and live in harmony.

But the world is not like that. Country A doesn't want to rely on Country B for food, or worse, defense, if suddenly Country B gets pissed off for no reason.
This is literally guns vs butter. Go back to basic economics Anon

[Anonymous No.54523277]

>>54523230
>But the world is not like that. Country A doesn't want to rely on Country B for food, or worse, defense
that is exactly the eu model

[Anonymous No.54523376]

>>54522683
>take shelter wherever and start working as a community to grow food?
and you lack a basic understanding of anthropology. you can't just go wherever you want and expect to be accepted by the locals as their own.